/#/ - Numbers thread

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Previous >>8211276

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ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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>>8223572
Everyday I love https://piyo.chats.ninja/ more and more. Beautiful ranking image.

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>>8223572
>Pekora
What went wrong?

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>>8223676
TO THE NIP BRO THAT MADE IT
>I KNEEL

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>>8223572
WHO WOULD WIN?
>THE COMBINED MIGHT OF A WHOLE BRANCH ON THEIR MAIN CHANNEL
>ONE CHEEKY VAMPIRE RUNNING AROUND AND SHOOTING
THE ANSWER MAY SURPRISE YOU!

(The answer is neither, but a fucking cute wolf that managed to go the whole stream without barfin)

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>>8223710
Because of Mio's 3D, "Hero of the Children" Pekora started streaming at 11pm, when most kids went to sleep already.

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>>8223572
New outfit buff obviously but holy crap that's a lot for a vspo, I'd be really interested in seeing some rankings for everyone outside of the two big companies

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>>8223791
So Pekora's viewers are kids and Kuzuha's are teens.

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It should be noted that the data for piyo's daily ranking ends at 5:59 am JST, so the ranking is subject to change until then. My recommendation is that every thread OP use the previous day's ranking until cutoff date is reached. Also, you should include the date of the ranking since that is relevant for the discussion of numbers. pic related

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>>8223572
Is it just Haachama that's figured out you can have separate video titles in Japanese and English?
Subaru and Marine have both been trying to attract more overseas viewers and put English in their titles, but the titles are so long it gets cut off on the homepage and sub feed so nobody will see it.

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>>8223972
What the hell? Where's my pic?

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>>8223929
I mean, Pekora still got 25k streaming at a time the kiddies are asleep. Kuzuha's viewers today are a mix of his loyal fanbase and apex autists for Vsaikyou.
Hard to tell the demo of his fanbase because a solid 14k are willing to watch him stream from 2am to 9am. I'm sure Pekora can also keep a similar crowd, but she'll never try something so self-destructive.

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>>8223929
You weren't aware?
It isn't basic knowledge?

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>>8223972
>It should be noted that the data for piyo's daily ranking ends at 5:59 am JST, so the ranking is subject to change until then.
I weighted that possibility but given that the heaviest hitters either had finished their streams or (in Kuzuha, Marine and Pekora's case) had already hit their peaks the list wasn't likely to change from that, not significantly.

If people didn't fall for bait last thread could last to 6AM JST tho

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>>8223972
Nigger it's all streams from today and nobody is going to incline at this time of night, I agree that problem was getting ridiculous during the vnuma days but there's no problem with this OP

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>>8223907
>I'd be really interested in seeing some rankings for everyone outside of the two big companies
Here
https://piyo.chats.ninja/ranking/daily/2021-08-20

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Kneel to the manager of idols.

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>>8224153
I genuinely kneeled to that. Fucking graveyard hours, 6 houris long stream and it pretty much never went below 12k

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>>8224045
There isn't a solid proof.

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>>8223572
Strong performance from Shuba, managed to go head to head with pekora

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>>8224153
Future K-chan after he graduates due to health issues derived from over-streaming.

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Here is something interesting from piyon
>you need at least 1k to feature in the daily Top 100

It splits the field more or less on the 1k peak CCV
>Top 100
>The rest

Top 100 streams tho, not vtubers because there are some with more than one in the top 100.
That as well puts in perspective how HUGE 1k is for a streamer of any company

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>>8224074
>>8224084
I only pointed it out because there will be people who will shit up the thread with garbage taken out of context or will be buttmad about the list being "incomplete" until all numbers are counted out. I was one of the guys who regularly did the VNUMA top 25 OPs at 2-3am JST and we often got people complaining about the thread being made too early or too late.

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I saw some anons predict that Gura will get 20-30k playing Apex and uh... ya that's not going to happen. It's true that people don't watch Gura for gameplay, but her streams do significantly worse when she is very bad at it, and she is extremely bad at FPS games.
If Gura knows what's good for her, she would switch it out for a horror game or something.

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>>8224382
She might get a decent peak but she will fall off fast because she is bad at everything but rhythm games.

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>>8223929
they're the same thing

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>>8224322
Does it really cut off the top 100 at 1000+ CCV or is it just that the top 100 all happen to have more than 1k CCV?

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>>8224539
>it just that the top 100 all happen to have more than 1k CCV?
This

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>>8224382
She gets 20k for novelty, no way she gets 30k though. Sharky be bad at fps if I recall what happened the last time she tried Apex with ame.
May or may not end up being an Ollie collab too if I'm not misremembering Ollie talking to her about that.

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>>8224382
>If Gura knows what's good for her
The issue with your assertion is that Gura doesn't care about numbers enough to prevent her from trying out new games. Same thing for other heavy hitters who play something out of their forte

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>>8224452
Especially since Apex viewership comes in waves. Just take Kuzuha as an example, he has a baseline that he builds off of that goes up the longer he stays alive, and then it drops back to the baseline when he dies. In Gura's case, she'll always be one of the last place teams so she'll never even build anything off of her baseline.

It'll unironically be like Irys's Apex streams, where she barely budges from 8-9k, but much worse because Irys is better than Gura.

https://piyo.chats.ninja/video/youtube/_IPI0CWO4LY

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>>8223771
based

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>>8224617
Ya I was speaking from a numbers-perspective. Obviously as a streamer, it's better for her to do whatever she wants. Chasing numbers is a miserable exercise.

I would love for her to try something like Bioshock and Mass effect, even if her numbers get fucked. Just play more minecraft and do more karaokes to make up for it lol.

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>>8224382
Gura doesn’t play much FPS, so people are prob going to be interested in her first Apex game. I think 30k is likely.

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>>8223771
Let's see:
>Leos
Frequently above 15k
>Lize
Frequently above 10k
>Kanae
Frequently above 10k
>Hayato
Frequently above 6k
>literal who girl that I forgot the name
Frequently under 1k

Together they form one scrim boosted Kuzuha almost perfectly.

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>>8223929
It's almost 3am in Japan and Pekora has held a consistent 21k for an hour. Kids fell asleep with their phones still on the stream I guess.

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>>8224992
Kids bot

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Superchat numbers

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>>8225070
Nene's video just made $3,477

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>>8225070
May as well post the real one since the vtuber category still excludes Mori and a bunch of others
>>8225126
Marine got $12k for her "comeback" utawaku, Mio will probably still be top for the day but it's going to be close between those two unless there's something bigger I missed

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>>8225488
Mio got saved by her songs.
12.090$ for 3D +652$ for Howling
vs.
12.130$ for Marines comeback

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What the hell, Kuzuha's VOD views are insanely high lately. 470k for Idol Manager?! He was lucky to hit that on his APEX streams before.

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>>8223771
this doesn't have anything to do with numbers but thinking of how mio had to spend her last birthday and how she got to spend this one really warms the heart

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>>8225704
that's because his apex streams were not 6,5 hours long

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>>8225704
Lurk more, newfag.

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>>8225852
Those are all scrims/tournaments.

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>>8225704
>What the hell, Kuzuha's VOD views are insanely high lately
Because he’s succeeding on YouTube as a platform, which isn’t entirely about live views, but also about VOD views and subscribers. For example: his subscriber views have increased in the last month by a giant 142% (see pic).

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>>8225949
and that's his shittiest apex of the entire month

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>>8225965
the hikakin collab boosted him a lot

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>>8225965
Newfag, he has collaborated with two big YouTuber this month... it's been mentioned so many times in these threads...

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is this thread getting raided by literal retards right now?

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>>8226027
>he has collaborated
Where did I say he didn’t? Re-read my post.

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1838万 マリン
1729万 ホロライブ公式
1146万 渋谷ハル
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982万 ぺこら
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456万 勇気ちひろ
455万 スバル

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>>8226032
No, just a new breed of tribalist newfags.

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For reference, this is Pekora streaming FF7R for the same amount of time. Imagine losing to Kuzuha streaming a debuff game at dead hours.

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>>8226083
> Because he’s succeeding on YouTube as a platform, which isn’t entirely about live views, but also about VOD views and subscribers.
That's thanks to two big YouTubers and not his effort.

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>>8226032
Point out something factual incorrect, so I can see what you mean.

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>>8226167
>That's thanks to two big YouTubers and not his effort
Sure, but it’s posted because it’s true, not how he got there.

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>>8226085
>Hololive official that high up
wow hologra really is putting in some work

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>>8226085
Sasuga Marine

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>>8226157
It's over...
Long live the King.

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>>8224382
Imagine if she did a guerilla collab with apex autists

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Lamy, what went wrong? I'm curious to see other hololive members play it too to compare the VOD views to Kuzuha's now.

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>>8227128
Debuff game

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>>8227128
I'm curious to see the VOD for the current Pekora Micra late night stream. Audience is firmly planted in their seats, where is she even, Hardcore Micra prsonal server?

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Yall be better working toward a phd in mathematics if you like numbers this much

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>>8227369
>implying
You would be surprised about the academic achievement of many in this site and sometimes board and thread too

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>>8227128
>>8227169
The only person that could possibly make this a novel experience in Hololive is Gura or Ame, since it would be something her audience would be largely unaware of. Would be interesting if they could carry an audience with this type of game.

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>>8227369
>>8227387
Here is an example
https://www.wired.com/story/how-an-anonymous-4chan-post-helped-solve-a-25-year-old-math-puzzle/

Some /tv/(?) numberfag solved a 25 years old unsolved math problem in about one hour just to answer some nuimberfag about watch order for some show

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>>8226032
This thread is always filled with retards. You could get rid of about 70% of the posts and not lose anything worth reading or meaningful in any way.

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>>8227329
Doesn't matter now, she just died.

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>>8226157
And Kuzuha's vod is fresher. That means it will gain even more views.

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I think I'm starting to get burnt out on numbers, all we do is just fight in here as well.

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>>8227695
We're all only here to suffer anyway.

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>>8227695
That's the point. Feeding tribalists - the only reason this thread is being created day by day.
Only a fool will think that someone is genuinely interested in those numbers.

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>>8227695
Why do you think the rest of the board calls this a containment thread

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Looks like HoloEN2 are not gonna reach 100k by their debuts. Will they even have 100k after debuts' end? I am pretty sure that nigger won't.

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>>8227867
they got gutted 3 times lol.

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>>8227882
I know, and I am taking that into account.

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>>8227916
You sound shocked they didn't reach 100k after being swiped 3 times.

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>>8227695
I thin the thread can be educational for most people, it's just you gotta take the negative side as well when it comes out. Nothing can be done about it so just bear with it.

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>VShojo isn't an agency!
>VShojo is just Melody and her circle of friends!
So this is a thing and that theory is BTFO'd and buried with all the COEPers, and all I am wondering is if they can really cement themselves at number 2 spot or will they lose out to Nijis in the west eventually.

Source: https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1428762581917908995?s=20

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>>8227695
It's the same boring shitposters who are obsessed with Kuzuha and Gura/Marine/Peko.
Let's get it straight, Kuzuha can pull in more numbers daily than anyone in Holo, Only in APEX because he rarely plays anything else, The downside? He saps viewers from everyone else in Nijisanji.

Peko and Marine as displayed today can pull 20k side by side.

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>>8227695
I'm staying, and will continue numberfagging as long as the market is still growing.

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>>8227695
I used to tribalfag in here and around the board for fun but now it's getting a little stale. Might take a break.

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Kuzuha Idol Manager VOD above Mio 3D birthday...
>but muhh duration cope
I don't want to hear it. It had a much lower CCV and he was streaming it at dead hours.

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>>8227974
I am not shocked.
And by the way, they reached it, but got swiped afterwards.
I just asked a question - will each of them have 100k after their debuts?
Someone would say "duh, of course, because they did it already and without Susan would be closing to 150k-160k right now". But I disagree with that, just because I see how slow they grow lately (without taking Susan into account). I believe that many swiped out people won't even resubscribe.

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>>8228026
approximately how big is the gap between NijiEN and Vshojo anyway? feels like Niji's closer to Tsunderia than they are to Vshojo

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>>8228081
>He saps viewers from everyone else in Nijisanji.
How, in most cases his fans are gonna watch him and the fans of the others will watch them, what gives you the idea it works any other way

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>>8228283
Comparing YouTube to Twitch is tough. Too many weird hidden factors. The rare crossovers from Miko etc suggest Twitch has considerably higher ccv numbers but in the end their business models are just different. YouTube rewards views and demos far more than Twitch.

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>>8228283
From my observations, NijiEN's fanbase size is about 40%-60% of VShojos'.
That's solely from judging their regular viewers amount.

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>>8223907
Sure, here's the most superchatted vtuber streams outside of Hololive and Nijisanji
>1. Kusunoki Sio 3D debut (indie) - $61,852 (06/20/20)
>2. Natori Sana birthday + 3D update (indie) - $39,776 (03/07/20)
>3. Kusunoki Sio birthday (indie) - $35,266 (04/01/20)
>4. Kagura Suzu birthday + outfit reveal (.LIVE) - $29,831 (12/15/20)
>5. Kizuna Ai 2nd live (Kizuna Ai Inc.) - $29,226 (01/23/21)
>6. KAF 2nd live (Kamitsubaki Studio) - $27,785 (03/13/21)
>7. Kakyoin Chieri birthday + outfit reveal (.LIVE) - $26,600 (03/16/21)
>8. Kusunoki Sio monetization (indie) - $26,283 (02/26/20)
>9. Kakyoin Chieri 100k subs (.LIVE) - $22,286 (05/29/21)
>10. Kagura Mea 1st anniversary (indie) - $21,879 (06/28/19)
>11. Shirayuki Mishiro 1st anniversary (Noripro) - $20,214 (12/06/20)
>12. Kusunoki Sio 100k subs (indie) - $19,761 (05/16/20)
>13. Kagura Suzu/Idol-bu Golden Week collab series - $19,564 (05/06/20)
>14. Kagura Mea 100k subs (indie) - $18,551 (10/15/19)
>15. Kongo Iroha birthday + outfit reveal (.LIVE) - $16,577 (10/06/20)
>16. Shirayuki Mishiro 3D debut (Noripro) - $16,490 (04/27/21)
>17. Kitakami Futaba birthday + outfit reveal (.LIVE) - $16,360 (06/16/20)
>18. Shirayuki Mishiro birthday (Noripro) - $15,677 (05/14/20)
>19. Mokota Mememe birthday + outfit reveal (.LIVE) - $14,753 (03/23/21)
>20. Ichinose Uruha birthday + outfit reveal (VSPO) - $14,601 (12/23/20)
>21. Kusunoki Sio 150k subs (indie) - $14,459 (07/04/20)
>22. Kagura Suzu/Tr!c trac 2nd live (.LIVE) - $14,222 (06/26/21)
>23. Siro birthday (.LIVE) - $14,028 (08/16/20)
>24. Kakyoin Chieri birthday (.LIVE) - $13,625 (03/16/21)
>25. KAF covers live (Kamitsubaki Studio) - $13,498 (06/14/20)
>26. Siro birthday (.LIVE) - $13,373 (08/12/19)
>27. Siro birthday (.LIVE) - $12,946 (08/12/21)
>28. Kagura Mea 3D debut (indie) - $12,897 (07/29/20)
>29. Jitomi Monoe monetization (VOMS) - $12,798 (04/18/20)
>30. Oda Nobuhime graduation (upd8) - $12,726 (04/30/20)

Bonus: Highest for a non-Japanese channel
Maid Mint graduation (indie) - $9,830 (04/03/21)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8228648
Wish Sio was still around. She wouldn't pull Hal numbers but it would be nice to have another powerhouse indy out there.

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>>8228081
You know that kuzuha and kanae especially kuzuha has a part of audience who only watches them and don't know anything about other niji right?

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>>8228274
The he highest point I had seen Gen 2 was at 125k subs. It’s very safe to say they would be higher than this (150k is not unreasonable) if it were not for the constant removing of subs.

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>>8229189
Just like Gura. Actually, it might be way worse in Gura's case since collabs aren't a debuff for Kuzuha.

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>>8228283
>approximately how big is the gap between NijiEN and Vshojo anyway?
Well, what website shows the numbers for VShojo?

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>>8229579
I think the debuff on EN collabs came mainly from the lack of variety. People seemed tired of seeing the same collabs over and over.

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>>8228648
So basically Idol-bu, the reincarnation of a former Idol-bu, plus Mea and Mishiro

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>>8227452
it was /sci/ iirc, talking about how to watch haruhis endless eight as many times as possible in an unique order

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>>8229678
TwitchTracker: https://twitchtracker.com/

If you know their Twitch name, you can just add it after the slash.
Examples:
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners
https://twitchtracker.com/projektmelody

I don't know if there is a direct ranking for Twitch and YouTube VTubers though.

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>>8228208
Ogey retard

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>>8228081
Kuzuha saps viewers from his teammates not from the rest of Nijisanji. Someone watching Haruka Genshin isn't going to run over to Kuzuha when he's live.

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>>8230393
Would anyone notice if they did?

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>>8230264
There shouldn't be because Twitch numbers are ruined by raids and bots.

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>>8230471
>bots are unique to Twitch
No

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>>8230552
Bots are more rampant on Twitch. Never said they were unique.

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>>8230600
>more rampant on Twitch
Even that is a claim that requires evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora are you ogey??? Can she beat the VOD views of a debuff game that was streamed in dead hours?

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>>8231342
You couldn't shitpost with CCV, so you are coping with VODs, comparing a 6 hours stream 20 hours ago vs a 5 hours stream 1 hour ago.
I expected much better from you, Kuzuha fag. I am dissappointed

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>>8223710
>still made it to top 10 with gayblue fantasy
meanwhile your oshit lost to a spic chuuba

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>>8231583
Who said I wasn't giving Pekora a chance? It's ridiculous if it actually ends up with lower views. It's Pekora Minecraft.

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>>8228719
(obligatory)
In prehistoric times, before this board existed, before HoloEn debuted, when vtubers here were discussed in one small thread in /jp/, one of the most popular vtuber companies was .LIVE. And it's hard for /vt/ to imagine, but they were more popular than Hololive, and the future looked bright for them.
And in this company, there was a vtuber named Yozakura Tama. Way back when, vtubers were idols, instead of making poopoo and weewee jokes, they were cute, chill and talented, and so was she. She played mahjong on semi-professional level and participated in many games with professional players. She was also very good at drawing.
But on one day, about 1.5 years ago, a drama occurred. Tama started tweeting that .LIVE is a black company and they treat their talents like shit. The specifics are unknown, as neither her nor the company did not cast light on the situation, but everybody sided with her, as everybody believed her. In the end she left with company and even convinced her genmate to live with her.
She presented .LIVE in really bad light, Baacharu, one of the greatest vtubers of all time, disappeared after that drama. Fans were disappointed in that company and many moved on to others. So, right before vtubers popularity skyrocketed, they lost all the momentum and were completely overshadowed by rival companies such as Cover. In a bizarro universe, this board would only talk about dotlivers and holos would be literally whos, if Tama didn't happen.
But this is not the end of the story. Few months later, Tama reincarnated as indie named Kusunoki Sio. All her former fans continued to support her as she was a talent mistreated by a black company now trying hard to rise as an indie. She was fairly popular, her streams were comfy and chill, I liked to watch them, even though I didn't know shit about mahjong. But then, at the same time as Aloe drama happened, another final yab occurred.
Due to security hole in blog site Note.com, her static IP was revealed. And it turned out, there was a shitposter on 5channel with the same IP address. The said shitposter is known as "ec" because of their id. This shitposter posted on vtuber board and there were thousands of pretty juicy posts that shittalked other vtubers (including your favourite holos), and even doxxed some of them, revealing sensitive information that could only be known by someone who met them personally. The discussion of those posts was a hot topic for almost half a year.
When it was revealed, the reaction of community was predictable. Imagine a chuuba collabs with your oshi and then shitposts about her in anti threads on /vt/. She suddenly made many enemies (there are no notable vtubers she didn't shittalk about, except Towa who is her close friend).
She was dislike bombed on stream live while streaming Fall Guys and trying to pretend that nothing happened. It seemed like not admitting anything and waiting for people to forget about it was her plan, but later she tweeted that she received threats in physical mail to her mailbox, to the place where she lives, and that she is contacting a lawyer and won't stream for a while.
As with Aloe, Sio also had white knights, mainly clueless redditors, who claimed it was not her, that somebody framed her, that it was a ninja hiding in her attic and using her wi-fi, but the evidence were overwhelming. More than that, it was proven that she were cheating at mahjong streamsniping her opponents, and that she commisioned some art that she later presented as her own drawings. All in all, she is a serial liar, and a backstabbing judas. Some people are still waiting for her formal apology, some still love her because she is /ourgirl/ who just liked posting rrats and because of her fat ass. Mainly because of fat ass.
To this day, most of .Live vtubers have virtually no growth in subscriber count in a year and they didn't have auditions since then. All they had is 5 graduations. Natori literally cried a river on her graduation, while streaming with virtually no sleep for almost 3 days, because it was her last chance to stream. She didn't stop talking with viewers even when stream was at the end screen, she valued every second she had to be with her fans. Futaba also cried a lot, but for lesser extent. Kongo Iroha was relatively lively, but still sad. Riko and Azuki didn't stream for a year and were practically dead, so they didn't even say goodbye.
Sio killed 5, or even 7 good vtubers. But her fat ass still makes me want to forgive her.

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>>8234901
And with this, the number thread is officially dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8235114
Dead hours, /vt/ is the territory of seaniggers.

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>>8234901
Don't post this pasta if you're not going to image dump her giant ass, faggot.

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>>8234901
>Imagine a chuuba collabs with your oshi and then shitposts about her in anti threads on /vt/.
Kiara does this.

[Anonymous No.]

I was just browsing youtube and saw numbers that shocked me and i had to post them in the numbers thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8235976
> Vampire vs Call boy
Trendy song vs old song

[Anonymous No.]

>>8226085
Pekora is reclining...

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>>8235976
>Mochizuki Kei on Kanata's thumbnail
Of fucking course it would get shit numbers, no one would want to click on that shit thumbnail from ex-Nijinigger artist.

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>>8235830
https://files.catbox.moe/w5mt16.png
https://files.catbox.moe/srzcq2.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/egnto1.png
https://files.catbox.moe/tjz22i.png
And seems like that one guy is still commissioning rape porn of her after a whole year which is incredibly based

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>>8236201
>ex

[Anonymous No.]

>>8236313
>And seems like that one guy is still commissioning rape porn of her after a whole year which is incredibly based
Gotta give it to the JP turboschizos; they're kneel worthy with the levels to which they take their hatred.

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>>8235976
Despite how good or popular Kanata is as a singer, her covers and songs seem to mostly do well because of factors outside herself.
If the song she's covering is popular
if the topic is important for the moment
Note, video views numbers on Playboard are super wonky for older videos

Also, other than her 3~ biggest songs, she doesn't have a dedicated fanbase for her songs that keep re-listening to anything she puts out, like Okayu or Towa.

And about being popular, Mel's video was very trendy
>Finally a vampire covers Vampire

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>>8236624
>how good or popular Kanata is as a singer
kek

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>>8223572
Damn, holo is actually dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8236973
Yes.
Or is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8236813
>Kanata frequently ranked S tied among holo singers
>among the few getting over 10k every singing stream
Sir, this is the numbers thread

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>>8237184
Nice file it gave me

[Anonymous No.]

Here's some numbers for you, Chii-chan is currently streaming Apex and during the month of August has done so for roughly 185 hours. On average that's 9.25 hours of Apex every single day, plus around 11 hours of Minecraft streams and a little over an hour of her radio show with Aki and Moira.

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>>8236973
You think so, their talents won't stream consistently. Cover's management is still beating rocks together to attempt to figure just how YouTube functions and Hololive momentum has plummeted. As I can see, Holo EN 2's predebut numbers will be similar to Selen's subscriber numbers a couple of weeks after her channel started.

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>>8237533
She also showed up on the latest Levergacha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69RzC-gQH6M

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237285
It happens, english titles usualky works better for the algorithm

[Anonymous No.]

>3m subs
>only 12k ccv playing minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237802
INA MOGGED INA MOGGED INA MOGGED

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>>8237533
here are some more apex numbers.

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>>8235976
Better comparison since they premiered about 1 hour from each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237976
Okay is that matsuri in menhera? kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237802
Oh no

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237976
Yea, Uto sucks at the game, Chii-chan isn't good enough to carry two deadweights on her own

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237802
One thing you gotta understand with Gura is that due to her taking days off, and not posting a schedule in her community tab, at least a portion of her viewers aren't going to be there on the dot at 5pm. They'll instead show up as it gets recommended to them.
Stream is at 15k now and still climbing, so please wait and see before casting judgement.

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>>8238000
even sheep can't save dying alien

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>>8237633
We will have to see once EN2 debuts and stream regularly. Irys for one has been consistently streaming 6 times a week. Sub numbers don't mean anything if CCV is good and consistent. We also know that EN2 has pretty much gotten a significant number of Twitter Followers that should parallel to their YT subs but YT keeps slashing them. This is going to be a case of Talent saving management again because talent will go viral and every misstep will be forgiven.

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>>8238032
>filename
a shienposter AND a brother...?

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>>8237184
>among the few getting over 10k every singing stream
Weirdly enough as I suspected one of the ones who does (every utawaku for the last 6 months except her most recent at a bad timeslot got over 10k, most more like 15k) is Noel. So I guess that's really not an indicator of quality.

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>>8238077
It's a very cute and funny team though so I'll be rooting for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>8238000
Yeah , i saw that. But lofis channel is such a huge debuff. Even versus Mel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8238077
I thought she was good. I saw someone say she was a fortnight pro or something in a previous life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8238156
I don't understand what is going through Holofag's minds right now. If I were one I'd be so pissed that management have denied their talents a 100k Debut.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura just said she got a video editor, so it seems like many uploads are on the way. I think she will do well there with the view numbers. I mean that was her old type of content after all. She did say she asked her manager “what am I not allowed to do”. So they might have given her a long list.

I think this will help Gura’s subscriber numbers, because she does very well with uploads and VODs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8238905
I'm an ESL and I didn't quite get what she said but did she say she hired an editor or installed a video editor software?

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>>8238905
This would legitimately be huge but didn't Ame also say something similar and we never really saw anything materialize? I'll believe it when I see it.

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>>8239127
She said she fired up a video editor, so installed/started to fool around with one again.
So assuming she doesn't lose focus on this ONE point she shouldn't lose focus on, we'll see some short clips out of her in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8238905
>Gura just said she got a video editor
To clarify, she meant a video editor software, as in, editing videos herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239154
Ame was hiring. Gura hired one. Gura got more movement.
>>8238894
I'm a holofag but I'm not bothered by the 100k sub right out of the gate. They can probably earn triple that just one their first week of streaming. Irys pretty much shot up to 500k that way even though she started around 250k when she started her Debut stream

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>>8239292
>>8239294
>>8239389
My bad then. This mean we will probably never see a vid from her.

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>>8239127
>did she say she hired an editor
She specifically said she got an editor, and that the channel will have clips and stuff. I assume she paid for? Unless Cover is paying for it?
>>8239154
>This would legitimately be huge
Understatement
>>8239294
>To clarify, she meant a video editor software
That’s not what she said though. I didn’t hear her clarify it afterward either.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

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>>8239463
Well, that's what HER used to do, so it's not that strange.

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>>8239582
her vids were random and filled of copyright issues that she can't do anymore. She's going to need to be more creative with her shitposts so yeah. I will believe it when I see it. A highlight vid of her streams would makes sense since she does get a lot of money from vods alone

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>>8239551
are there any niji?

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>>8239551
>aniversay 3d
>karaoke
>outfit reveal
>Being herself
>karaoke?
>??
>??
>??
>Apex challnege
>??
>??
>??
Little EN today not even Nijis.
Also apex not elaving any SC

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>>8239826
6th and 8th place
i don't want to be that person but hiragana is easy anon...

[Anonymous No.]

EAAAAAAAAAAAAASY 20k for Gura!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239900
>Apex challnege
>during huge Apex tourney
SASUGA Nene

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239754
Even if they are Hololive friendly versions of her old videos they will still attract a ton of attention. Her old videos have millions upon millions of views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239463
Gura said she “got an editor”. How you interpret that is up to you. I assume she already had software before, and the way it is phrased would suggest a person/editor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8238024
Yep, she's living the meme

[Anonymous No.]

That karaoke boosted her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240133
holoEN managment trying to find other ways to milk her, poor girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239826
Furen and Kirame
>>8239900
Furen had her 3D debut announced
Mishiro did a voice request stream to celebrate 170k (she's also Noripro's #1 SC magnet)
Kirame got a new outfit
Nene played Apex (not sure why she got so much but she's strong with SCs overall)
Not sure about the fag looking guys and I don't care enough to check
Kemomimi indie hit 10k subs
Tomeru not sure but she seems to have some pretty insane gachikoi for an indie of her size, one gave her a blank 50k yen

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>>8240174
>boosted her numbers
mb "pre gate event buff"

[Anonymous No.]

Gura literally inclining every second.

The audience not knowing about the stream cause no one uses twitter anon looks to have been right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240174
that sabaton buff
shows that there is only one king

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240328
and she is his apostle

[Anonymous No.]

youtube is delelting subs againg from en2
10k lost for sana other will follow soon

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>>8240174
Isn’t it normal for her recent Minecraft screams? See pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240303
73 million twitter 'users' in the US
https://www.statista.com/statistics/242606/number-of-active-twitter-users-in-selected-countries/
197+ million YT 'users' in the US
https://www.globalmediainsight.com/blog/youtube-users-statistics/

There's a LARGE number of YT users who just....don't use twitter so they'll only tune in to Gura when it shows up in their recommends. Especially since not everyone will hit the bell for notifs for her streams.

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>>8240594
Doesn't that same logic apply to literally every vtuber?

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>>8240502
idk if this is bait or not but that's the normal gap between her and her genmates

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>>8240491
So is belle delphine

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240502
They need to move to twitch already. Youtube is such a trash bin of a website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240502
What the fuck, ceres is inclining

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>>8240579
Ya that anon is just coping because Gura beat her last MC numbers, which she was doing an impromptu collab with Ame. Gura getting ~20k has been a consistent thing since Jan 2021, sometimes bit higher, sometimes bit lower. There is potential for incline as she's taking the game more seriously now. Gura has always been fucking around in MC and never getting shit done.

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>>8240502
10k less for kroni
20k less for rat and owl
probably deerr will get culled soon again
that makes what already? 140k subs removed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240811
They are removing them again in a specific order

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>>8240732
NTA, but she was at 40k last I looked so she did lose 10k subs. Just means everyone else did as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8240780
>im back song
it all coming together!

[Anonymous No.]

So YouTube nuked holoEN Gen2 subs… 4 times now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241081
Nijisanji bribed Susan

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>>8240732
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCsUj0dszADCGbF3gNrQEuSQ/realtime

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241081
They should stop using bots.

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>>8241128
Yep, it’s proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241081
At this point it's more pitiful than anything. Can't really blame YT AI too much, it IS suspicious looking for 5 connected channels to suddenly get 100k+ subs out of nowhere with no content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8223572
>>8239551
7th most watched and 3rd most superchatted stream of the day? VSPO is inclining hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241195
i find weird that they are just not validating if the user are valid or not. if it is accounts that are alwasy watching youtue it should set a precedent.

[Anonymous No.]

Ouch….
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCgmPnx-EEeOrZSg5Tiw7ZRQ/realtime

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241081
>4
Way more, there were lots of small cuts.
In other news, the owl has the most subs now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8223572
Hololive mogging manjisanji like usual.

[Anonymous No.]

So without out the AI cuts what would be sitting at?

250k on debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239551
Rushia?!!

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>>8241366
It's hard to tell, but they'd probably be at 200K right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241366
180-200k mark

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>>8241366
they got 100k removed after the first 24 hrs
alos 2 small cuts of 5k and now 10 to 15k
they would be at least 200k if it didnt happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241366
Literally no one knows. I just hope it doesn't affect their debut numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241475
So then out of 200k, YouTube cut 150k… crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241366
the ai will ban the channel midstream for having 80k+ cvv.

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>>8240696
It's magnified for EN chubbas, and Gura especially since she doesn't post her schedule to her community tab anymore.
JP numbers for comparison
60m+ YT users
55.5m Twitter users
Twitter is JP's main social media, so this shouldn't be a surprise.
>>8241405
Just another day for Rushia.

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>>8241548
It if didn’t stop even after debut, they’re truly fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241324
Their subs pre debut and post debut count would be so high hope to see like 150-200K increase post debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241366
Most of them the same subscribers being culled over and over again so it's hard to say since you can't just add all the numbers that have been cut.

[Anonymous No.]

>All of the girls shoot up to 300k subs tomorrow
>Youtube shadowbans them ALL for suspicious activity.

I can see it.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone find it funny the average vtuber fan is mistaken for a bot? Maybe subbing 5 channels with no content in a short amount of time wasn't such a good idea.

I only subbed to Nanashi and I haven't gotten my sub slashed yet.

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>>8242365
I subbed to the 5 of them as soon as they appeared
so who knows, i think the most likley explanation is yt slashin subs that happened after the first 50k

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the EN2 hype buff?

[Anonymous No.]

On a slightly different note...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGJ9-1LWFtE&t=0s
Polka's absolute meme of an original song has 400k+ views.
Just....I don't even know. If Unison is a nice drink by the poolside watching the sunset, PO is like getting hit with acid.

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>>8242688
Normal Gura minecraft.

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>>8242818
Great MV are a boost for songs of any kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8242688
Still getting pecor number

[Anonymous No.]

>>8242688
this>>8240579

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>>8242925
>Great MV are a boost for songs of any kind.
not really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPm9T622OX0

[Anonymous No.]

>>8242688
If she gets 27k, probably yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243245
In this case, the song was pretty good. MV was okay, the model was just a bit meh.

[Anonymous No.]

Singing relay stream? Numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

Top 100 Most Viewed Vtuber/Vsinger Original Songs of the Week(13 August 2021 - 20 August 2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEOKrElP2dQ

- #1 Marine's "Unison", #2 Gura's "Reflect", #3 Suisei's "GHOST"

- Gura's weekly total for "Reflect" is still dropping but I don't expect it to drop out of top ten any time soon. Whether it settles into a stable range of views like Calliope's songs have remains to be seen.

- Suisei has three songs in the top ten this week. Good for her, she's deserves it.

- Nijisanji's top track rank for the week is #12 Rain Drops' "Ashita wa Nichiyoubi", up 3 ranks from last week.

- HIMEHINA's "Ultra Girls" still holding strong in the top ten, surprisingly.

- Top ten breakdown: 7 Hololive, 2 Kamitsubaki, 1 HIMEHINA

[Anonymous No.]

Kaguya artist gartic phone collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243466
Why put the EN girls at 330am EST
Also the same time as Hololive's MC relay.

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>>8243541
They chose Maimoto over Shubaru

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>>8242925
Not really, the boost is almost next to nothing. What brings it home is if song is unique, doesn't matter how bad it is. If it's standing out and if it's good for looping, it's going to perform better.
Reason why upbeat fast songs are getting better numbers than others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243510
>#1 Marine's "Unison"
As it deserves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243615
He also didn't pick Subaru for Powerpro. Uimama family is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243245
Come on anon, it's not even 24h...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243602
Yeah, I just found out that they're doing a relay stream too but it's just EN, ID & KR singing so I'd expect 1-4k.

>>8243615
Isn't aka a guy? I remembered that he's a diehard vtuber fan since he made a vtuber chapter months ago. But yeah, no collabo with guys.

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>>8243541
>gartic phone collab with big artist
makes you think

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>>8243816
>But yeah, no collabo with guys.
It's EN, but most of Kiara's artist guests for her gartic phone streams were male artists. No one had a problem with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243245
Oggey, that's just bad song to be on repeat...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243466
Our of those 4, Elira gets the most numbers on her singing streams, around the 2.5 to 3k. I'm assuming a significant chunk of that will be lost by Rosemi and Petra tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243997
who is the best singer in EN?

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>>8243886
EN doesn't have the same 'no guys in collab' issue that JP does. Due to unicorn pandering, some holomem have boxed themselves in on that front.
Off the top of my head, only these Holomem would have minimal issues collabing with dudes
Suisei
Fubuki
Matsuri
I don't know who else off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244051
Numbers thread, so that's off-topic. But imo, Elira.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244051
Gura

[Anonymous No.]

Again, numbers. There's a lot of events today holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243677
The family has been dead for a long time.
There hasn't been an Oozara Family collab in ages since Subaru went the idol route.
>>8243886
EN/ID doesn't have the unicorn problem for the most part. Outside of this board anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244051
The vtuber that calls for crusade

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244144
It would be lucky to break 5k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244081
>EN doesn't have the same 'no guys in collab' issue that JP does
Calliope x Rikka collabs.
imaging Gura collabing with ANY man

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244257
>Gura collating with a male
And people say weed is harmless

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244257
>>8244170
Pretty sure both Ame and Gura already earns a pass to collab with any mid to high tier streamer on twitch. In some cases, Gura may be able to collab with OTV in games like Among Us and other co-ops. It's Gura's decision though if she wants to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8237802
Oh no no no no no no no no no
You can't break 20k Guraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243677
It's a matter of asking permission. It's much more believable that Cover didn't give Maimoto permission to pick Subaru than him just not picking her if he's able to considering all his other choices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244257
Gura has enough trouble collabing to being with. Her fanbase however....ah fuck, I don't know it might be bad desu. Just due to sheer size there's probably enough unicorns in her fanbase to cause at least some ruckus.
>>8244144
15k as a ballpark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8242688
>Is this EN2 hype buff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244369
yeah, even Calli getting shit for collabing with male e-celebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>8241139
They are not niji anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244081
Choco and Robco are collabing with Astel with no issues if I recall.
>>8244257
The only people who gave a shit about those are the unicorns on this board.
I agree that Gura would be a timebomb seeing how cancer her fanbase can be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244443
to be honest pretty good for this game last tima she had ~3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244081
Sora, AZKi, Roboco, Aki, Choco

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244551
What about Pokimane, LilyPichu and Valkyrae's circles?

[Anonymous No.]

Is Fuwa 3D morning dance dying bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244551
>Roboco, Choco, Astel
Astel is one of the most beloved holoS + he was extremely shy(aspecially for AStel).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244683
Pretty much
No one what to watch this leech anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244123
>>8244236
Pretty sure he's talking about NijiEN. Otherwise, ya I'll say Gura too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244490
She got shit for being more excited about collabing with Gigguk than with Hololivers. Not soley because he was a guy.
This was right after he fucking disaster of a meme review stream if I recall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243466
They aren't Hololive, they can't just put these shit tier people together and expect great numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244819
>This was right after he fucking disaster of a meme review
this or faild CAllixGura collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243466
Not breaking 10k imo.
None of these Nijis have great numbers, and box-push buff not quite a thing with Niji. Unless the novelty of the ENs brings in tourists, probably just gonna max at 7-8k at most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244683
>Ep 20
>No guests
It was only a matter of time till it started losing steam. He had a damn good run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243466
Better than the HoloEN debuts which are going to be fucking scuffed and shadowbanned because Cover management are retards who don't know how to YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244896
5-6 in best, my bet

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244683
That's pretty high for no guests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244896
NijiJP did the same singing relay thing once a few months ago with Ange, Tomoe, Chigusa...etc, and none of them broke 10k.

I'm thinking 5k max, which is already 2x what Elira gets for her singing streams and 3x what Rosemi and Petra get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244896
>7-8k at most
You're overestimating them. We're talking about livers that can't get 5k let alone hit 2k on normal streams aside from Elira

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245133
Does anyone have the numbers for nijinyanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245133
>none of them broke 10k
ooh shit!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244551
>Choco and Robco are collabing with Astel with no issues if I recall

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245345
Roboco has PC issues and Choco isn't popular to begin with (and streaming during prime time).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245345
falsflagger
this is fucking huge vtuber tournament, and Stel who is the best player of them had 1,7k+ viewers yesterday, after Mio's stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245133
>2x what Elira gets for her singing streams
>source: my ass
Her karaoke are around 4k. Last one was short guerilla singing at night if you judge by that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244551
>>8244635
Thanks Anons. Brain on fritz, forgot Sora of all..argh.
>>8245245
Probs a bit high yea. 10k is defo impossible though.
Also, IRyS Karaoke predictions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z_ppGumqQ4
IMO, 12-15k. If it's less I'll be surprised. Depends on how long Gura goes for since there's definitely SOME overlap in their fan-bases

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245304
>>8245308
https://playboard.co/en/video/Fi7vHsKziTw
https://playboard.co/en/video/VC9CXVGhKBY
https://playboard.co/en/video/w8suWW_Hhp8

Nevermind, I misremembered.
Ange got 17k.
Tomoe got 10k.
Chigusa got 8k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244551
Choco and Roboco has never had issues taking about dudes or collabing with dudes. If this Towa, Matsuri and Fubuki, people won't find any issues in that as well. If this was Rushia, Lamy, Nene or Aqua, people might not like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245570
if i recall correctly last iRys's karaoke was ~13k. this could be under12k

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244551
And no one cares about Rbc or Choco in japan. That's why there is no issues regarding males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245628
Aqua had a shitstorm over playing smash with a famous smash guy.
Nene told off her fanbase for getting mad when she MENTIONED Aruran in the context of seeing his Minecraft content.
Watame had to tell off her fanbase for mentioning the Stars as well. She said something along the lines of "I'm NOT going to apologize, they're my coworkers and I can talk about them if I want"

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243541
Yep, just like I said these bitches will come to suck Maimoto's dick after they saw his HUGE baseball numbers. They're so easy to read.
Though I'll respect them if they stop taking advantage of the poor guy by dragging him around everywhere for numbers and collab with Kuzuha and Kanae instead. But I'm sure, just like how no male has the balls to approach Rushia, these bitches are probably too scared to approach the top Nijimales too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245780
>Nene, Watame
based as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245857
>no male has the balls to approach Rushia
do you want poor guy to be killed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245780
>getting mad
Again with niggers who don't watch Nene making shit up, some fans were just concernfagging and asking if it was okay to view Aruran's stream while streaming herself, and she saw no problem with it since she wouldn't be putting his stream up on screen.

[Anonymous No.]

Number thread btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243466
>foreign branch
>female
5k max
nijiguys in comparison
>akina saegusa 23,233
>kei nagao 21,883
>tojiro genzuki 25,632
>haru kaida 17,836
>shoichi kanda 16,862
>joe rikiichi 16,855
>hayato kagami 42,077
>minato fuwa 42,255
>kakeru yumeoi 18,646
>akina saegusa 20,241

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246237
>muh manjisanji cherrypicking
Niji females would get numbers just as big if they picked the popular ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246189
Only one Hololive stream going on RN and it's nothing 'noteworthy' (Gura, been holding 22.5k after she peaked right as she finished placing her conduit at 24k).
Next thread should be a bit less derailed as we'll have actual streams up and numbers to look at. Especially since there's the portal relay happening.

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>>8246313
who are participating on the realy?
i dont expect huge numbers since there isnt any top holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245780
>>8246011
It was a little different. Someone complained about her replying to Kaoru. Most of us thought they were just some retard, but she felt like saying something anyway. She didn't feel like she should act like she has to apologize for saying hello to a coworker.
It was pretty based though.
It was just like a couple people complaining about her newer songs not sounding Watame-like. She told them she doesn't feel she has a sound yet, wants to try different things and wants to "go to the world" by showing vtubers can do things that have some widespread appeal. She is upfront about doing what she wants to do even if it involves telling people to step back and watch. Probably also why she's content with 100%'ing something like Void Terrarium.

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>>8246381
kson first meme review.

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>>8246517
whoops didn't mean to tag

but yeah would be nice to see how

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246381
Kanata, Matsuri, Ollie, Reine, Mio, Lamy, Moona, Botan, Mel, and Risu.
Then a wrap-up stream at 6:30 am PST/9:30 AM EST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246237
When was this? And Holy fuck
>>hayato kagami 42,077
>>minato fuwa 42,255
Did 20k Nijifags seriously just show up out of nowhere for that two guys and fucked off instead of staying until the end, in a RELAY stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8245857
Ui and Mai go way back it's very known, And I doubt the other two care about big numbers much they have been fucking around with Roberu

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246298
>>8245588
>ange 17k
sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246298
Isn't the whole point of the relay to give the less popular ones exposure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246602
yes. rip yumeoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>8246237
>joe rikiichi 16,855
>hayato kagami 42,077
>minato fuwa 42,255
>kakeru yumeoi 18,646
Management probably thought they were being smart by have those two near the end of the relay to buff the last two.

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>>8246645
Yeah, if they're smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8244081
Since this is the numbers thread. I decided to see what are the max numbers the girls can get with males on their streams, how bad are the debuffs. Most of the collabs over the last 3 months are either Towa or Matsuri in apex tournaments. These 3 streams are the highest ccv. All three from the CR cup finals.

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>>8247013
>Matsuri
she permanently has male on her stream

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN portal prediction?
I predict max 15k-30k because NAfags sleeptime and no one going to stay late to watch this right before Holo council debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8247013
Oh these 2 slipped through the cracks. make it an even top 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>8247215
Botan is at the same time as Susei's mini concert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8247215
i think will start at 8k then stay like that until slowly racing 20k by the end.
underselling it since it is a lot of IDs and low holos.
Im still surpised kaanta organized this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8243602
>>8243816
It also includes NijiJP, Ryushen has the biggest pull from these, but shouldn't be higher than 5-6k regardless

[Anonymous No.]

>>8247215
Minecraft portal relay, no Pekora, No Flare, No Aqua.
wtf is this shit, all main kensetsu is not represented

[Anonymous No.]

how do we save nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>8247215
>no one going to stay late to watch this right before Holo council debut.
Gura said on today’s Minecraft stream that management told the girls not to mention that they will be going to the JP server. I guess Gura was suggesting they accidentally told their viewers already. Is there a reason management doesn’t want to promote it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8248748
It's the superchat reading of a debuff game you fucking retard, Selen peaked at over 2k

[Anonymous No.]

>8248748
By not baiting with superchat reading screenshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>8248748
Weaksauce bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>8248788
No it was about the servers getting linked because apparently there's some technical issues

[Anonymous No.]

>>8248836
And Gura has 14k reading superchats right now, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8248962
That’s what I was talking about. Linking them so they can travel to the JP server.
>apparently there's some technical issues
Show proof. Gura said on stream that she didn’t know of any reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8249142
I personally think they want to keep it a secret so they can milk it as much as possible because it is a big event

[Anonymous No.]

>>8248748
Add more en vtubers. That will solve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8249142
Yea, the actual reasons are pure spec. No hard reasons given by management.
The fact that they're moving ahead with a portal relay means that work IS being done in the background, so it's a matter of time.
I could see the servers linked in a month where there's a full EN+JP+ID grand collab once Council's collab ban is ended though, and management might want to keep silent to build hype or something (this is speculation).
>>8249055
Nearly a year+ to build a loyal fanbase that'll stick around for Zatsudan x SC reading vs a few months, c'mon man it's not even a contest at that point to compare the two.

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>>8249055
And she lost half her viewers and the same shit happened to nijiEN, your point?

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN already has 11 vtubers. Does Cover prefer quantity over quality?

[Anonymous No.]

Gura has 12.5k listening to her SC reading rn. There's a real possibility that Gura might get a higher number reading SC while overlapping with Irys's karaoke... which would be something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8249510
half of 22k > half of 2k

[Anonymous No.]

Holo is winning while Niji is losing, and water is wet

[Anonymous No.]

>>8249518
Well, let's see.
11 vtubers in 11 months, basically 1 per month for HoloEN.
6 vtubers in 3 months, so 2 per month for NijiEN. Double the rate of HoloEN, and about to go way higher than that soon with 4 new ones.
I'd say nijisanji will comfortably hold the title of quantity over quality.

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>>8249142
https://youtu.be/AKCUPiA5OUs?t=6645
Kiara talked about it in this timestamp. Appearently there was some technical issues with the server merge which is why they don't want the holos to talk about it until it can be done

[Anonymous No.]

>>8250128
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8250512
?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/seffyna2434/status/1428192754123743235?s=21
>Starting at the same time as Hololive’s relay
This is probably gonna fail huh

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS is being held back by her design more than Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>8250785
the jp's will get the best numbers, I bet the others won't surpass 2k since most of them usually have shit stream numbers and will sing outside of their normal stream time

[Anonymous No.]

How do we save Lize?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8250689
NTA, but all of these numbers rn are previews anyways. The real number war is tonight between Kuzuha's scrim Day 6 and Suisei's mini-live + original song announcement. Maybe there will be some interesting numbers for the Holo MC relay too.

>>8250785
No one expects any big numbers from them. There's barely any overlap between the viewerbase of the overseas Niji branches and the Holos doing the relay anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8251168
Make her a Genshin only streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8251231
Real war gonna be EN council debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8251543
That's the next day, and it'll be competing Vsaikyou I think. Aug 22 for JST. But some of the earlier debuts might be on Aug 21.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252010
Oh, I forgot time zone difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8251168
She's finished the moment that she started sucking someone's dick. I think it was Chaika's, maybe she thought it's fine because he's wearing skirt but it's actually not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252010
>That's the next day, and it'll be competing Vsaikyou
Oh shit now that's the stuff. It's gonna be 100k+ vs 100k+ and it'll be amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252173
Hope there will be no shadow banned like IRyS debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252010
Scrims are at 7am~ EST
Council debut starts at 1PM EST

[Anonymous No.]

HAHAHAH
you get what you deserve retarded leeching whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252173
HoloCouncil debuts are very likely not going to beat Vsaikyou. The final spike when everyone goes to the same channel to check the results is going to be 120k+. The ones on sites like Mildom for CR are even crazier, like 280k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252364
You sound angry anon.
Why are you comparing a super buff game vs a debuff game anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252490
basically solo vs multi stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252364
Maimoto would've retired a long time ago if it wasn't for Subaru so stop being a nigger for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252522
ff7 is only a debuff for shitty streamers aka camwhorelive

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252364
>Still playing baseball even though the tournament is long over
Who is the desperate leech again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252655
its his tournament, my dear retarded seanigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252655
They are doing an exhibition match between Maimoto and Tenkai featuring non-Niji livers, features everyone besides Holowhores from Maimoto's team selection so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252720
The tournament is over jackass. Move the fuck on. Unless he is too scared to go back to his 2views so is trying to live off past glory. Its almost as pathetic as the NFL playing the pro-bowl after the Super Bowl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252630
wait what

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252772
Retard

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>>8252802
Some hard cope because you know I'm right. Washed up shitty "liver" who is no longer relevant trying to keep the baseball train going for as long as he can because he knows he is DEAD once he stops playing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252788
do your reps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtotxWiETe0

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252736
Maimoto's team so far for context: Dennou Shoujo Shiro, Fuji Aoi, Mirai Akari, Kagura Mea, Inaba Haneru, and Inuyama Tamaki.

Tenkai starting his first stream later today so we'll see if they were able to get anyone from Homos at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfLQPAjB6PY

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252844
damn that holowhore sure have an eye on whom to leech off

[Anonymous No.]

Marine will have her own Minecraft stream with Flare going up against the portal relay, can she still pull her usual numbers against it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252997
Against Risu? Definitely.

[Anonymous No.]

oh no no no nijibros dont look....

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1Bw0axVAc

>jun cooking
40k viewers in 1 minute
>haachama cooking
15k viewers in an hour

holy mogged

1 million subscribers by the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>8253123
oh no no no holobros dont look....

[Anonymous No.]

>>8253190
How do we save Gura?
He has 10 times less subs...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252894
Maybe fbk

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda nuts, Pekora and Gura both streamed Minecraft today, both had similar CCVs, but Pekora streamed 45 minutes longer, and yet Gura already has more views on her VOD despite there being many hours between them

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254178
youtube bug guts gura viewevership, in reality she had at least 40k live viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>8253190
Can't wait for konami to ditch manjisanji for hololive. What do they do without that baseball game lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254178
Gura had tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru 17k now. Damn ff7 really is a buff game! holly shit aeris death scene is coming

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254178
Only way we'd be able to know for sure is we were able to peer at avg watch time+unique IPs for both vids.
There's definitely some fuckery and oddness afoot but it's always going to be speculation without those hard numbers to back it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254178
>Gura already has more views on her VOD despite there being many hours between them
This is why Gura needs a editor for video uploads. She does well in that area, even in her past life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254178
The thing is Gura's Likes always beat her own CCV, she has 32k likes while streaming today and not everyone drops a like. I don't know how she does it, shit is strange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254773
more eops more likes its always been like that

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>>8254773
50k likes with a ccv that never hit that hgih during her gawr karaoke.
Viewcout at almost 300k when the video ends, and it wasn't more than a bit over an hour.
Some genuine grade A fuckery happened during that stream, because there is no way you get 7x ccv churn over such a short period of time for karaoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8254773
I still think the theory of youtube validating user differently between mobile and desktop holds some ground over lets say tab out. I think the tab out comes from mobile user closing and reopening the app, mobile user live views get validated faster than desktop users..

[Anonymous No.]

>>8239900
>Apex challnege
that wasn't even what got her the most money. she got like 1,4k from the challenge and the other 2k during sc reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252844
I hate how this being pushed as a one-sided "Maimoto was saved by generous Subaru" thing by some retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_QjUq_Jn_M (btw that's an embarrassing typo for one of the most popular holo subbers)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8253123
I think it's about time we start reporting ikioi screenshots and posts like >>8253189 as offtopic

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone explain Maimoto's numbers? He's a top vtuber in terms of live viewers but he's really bad in basically any other metric, even compared to other popular nijis. It's like people just watch him but don't engage in any other way, no subs, no likes, low superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora MC(8/20) 20735/25398 05:41:35 388K VOD
Gura MC (8/20) 18145/24080 04:55:22 448K VOD
YT is broken

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255517
Pekora had higher viewer focus retention. Gura's viewers kept tabbing back and forth so she gained more views per viewer

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255513
Average live viewers on playboard only tracks the last 14 streams and he had the baseball buff. He normally doesn't do that well in live viewers. Usually around 3-5k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255517
Pekora was almost all gameplay too, just 20 minutes of zatsu at the end, while Gura was almost 1 and a half hours of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255517
Pekora is reclining... peko minecraft vs kuzuha idol manager
name/peakviews/views at end of stream/vod views gain/stream duration/time(JST)

>Pekora 25,398 / 275,894 / 113,056 / 5h41m20s / 23:01 - 04:43
>Kuzuha 16,558 / 291,996 / 192,131 / 6h43m50s / 02:47 - 09:31

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255513
He only has baseball and collabs going for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255513
NijiJP is interconnected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255807
Pekocraft had a lot of overlap hence when flare and others finished they moves tonpekora stream but also was a lot latter than usual since no ine wanted to overlap.mios 3d birthday outside apex scrims.

[Anonymous No.]

Day already started hot
>Kanata 15k on the portal relay
Good numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255807
Pekora isn't reclining, her VOD views have always been on the lower end compared to her CCV. 300-400k for a Pekora VOD is pretty much par for course, albeit this one is lower than average.

Kuzuha, on the other hand, has always had higher VOD views than her, despite comparable CCV. He gets high VOD views between Apex viewer churning in-between matches and he has fans that visit his VODs afterwards presumably because his streaming times are so long (usually around 100k views a day after the stream). There's no shame in losing in VOD views to Kuzuha anyways, he's like literally top 3 for sure for vtuber VODs.

For HoloJP, the VOD queen is actually Marine. Even if we ignore her shorts and take into account that Marine is on a mega-hot streak, there's some very ridiculous VOD views for these short 1 to 1.5 hour streams. Her karaokes actually get insane VOD numbers too.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCzUftO8KOVkV4wQG1vkUvg/videos

[Anonymous No.]

This is the power of HoloEN2 hype...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8255934
Lot of esl. BUT pekora fanbase are used to one timeslot and this was after that slot. That is part why her weekend midday streams are lower than average and she choose smaller games for those times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256177
18k and it keeps going uP!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256177
Portal is not opening now after all.
>mackerel

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256302
Nah need EN to do it. And my bet is they are going to wait for en2 collab ban to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256244
May end up like this>>8255807

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>>8256177
Huh, for all the talk about IRyS being a flop, she seems to be doing relatively well. At least her numbers seem to be around 6k-9k whenever I saw her name in this threads. I genuinely expected lower.
Still looks ugly, though

[Anonymous No.]

Smart move here. I wonder if that will boost the song already very good numbers with EOP going back for a second serving with subs now

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256413
I think you know very well by now that this place doesn't let facts get in the way of their shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256300
21k and rising....OMG they going to kill nijisanji today isn't it....

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256413
she is really stable. this karaoke has 12k.6k on average just like previous one

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256413
>Still looks ugly, though
It’s not even just the ugly part tho. They tried to make her design a mix of eastern and western and botched it. /pol/ memes aside she surely looks like those mixed race caricatures, except instead of race it was “mixed 2D drawing style”.

RatGirl was an immediate success because her design is a pure Japanese 2D anime style. That makes it much easier for fan made illustrations to be made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256458
>they going to kill nijisanji today
hard to tell. there are a lot of overlaps starting with Botan's stream
https://schedule.hololive.tv/

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256588
If Kanata is pulling 20k Haachama will likely do too and Miko likely more

[Anonymous No.]

Feels so weird to see shitposters switch to shitting on Pekora's VOD views when literally a month ago, Pekora's low VOD views was used as proof that she had high viewer retention, whereas Gura's streams are filled with tourists .

I mean it is true that Pekora has high viewer retention and relatively low VOD views the next day, but Gura's CCV numbers are probably fucked for her to get almost double Pekora's VOD views despite having lower CCV. Either that, or lots of chumbuds catch the VODs instead of watching live.

Project Diva peaked at 22k.
DMC3 peaked at 14k.
Minecraft peaked at 19k for a split second, but it was more like 18k.
All numbers far below Pekora's DQ5 grind streams, but much higher in VOD views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256614
>Miko
she will BUT she and Moona will stream befor Botan. for an hour we will get overlaps of Risu, Mel with Suisei,Marin, Okayu

[Anonymous No.]

first nijishitty mogged
whos next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256413
People who said Irys flopped don't watch Irys. It's debatable if she still has a debut buff after a month, but her numbers are very solid and she does not steal much viewers from the other HoloEN girls, which means she has her own fanbase rather than cannabilizing HoloEN's pool of viewers.

12k for archived karaokes at 9 pm PST/ 12am EST is a good number since it's late for the east coast and those are Kanata/Watame karaoke numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256676
We've talked about this a lot of times already, it's almost boring at this point - Gura's fanbase viewbots her VODs because they can't accept that she has 3.2 million dead subs. Once you accep that fact, the sooner you realize that none of Gura's numbers are legitimate nor should you consider it as legitimate in any discourse

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256799
>People who said Irys flopped don't watch Irys
People who said that don’t watch numbers either. You don’t need to look at anything other than her massive numbers to call her a success.
It’s mostly shitposters tho

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no they peaked 23k....... it's over.... nijibros how will we ever recover...... oh wait >>8256244

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256797
i will better none of Hologirls will beat 23k until Miko's stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256864
>none of Gura's numbers are legitimate
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I can taste the salt and the jealousy from here

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256889
Karaoke is almost always a buff though - her 12k karaoke viewers dont matter when she only gets 2k for any other stream. If anything it only proves she's a flop outside of karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256936
Why are nijiniggers always so disingenuous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256936
> when she only gets 2k for any other stream
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/irys

Sometimes I honestly can't tell if you retards are just larping as holo-antis so we get easy dunks or if you're actually this retarded. Like why would you post something so easily disprovable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256936
Irys median for august 1-15
>6354 median :: 45.11 hours streamed :: irys
That puts her in the middle of the range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256936
>2k for any other stream
falsflagger
https://piyo.chats.ninja/streamer/6xyex5Qb
moving on

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257026
For more context, here are her median neighbors

>7678 median :: 21.73 hours streamed :: botan
>7425 median :: 25.68 hours streamed :: kanata
>6947 median :: 23.65 hours streamed :: okayu
>6354 median :: 45.11 hours streamed :: irys
>6146 median :: 51.4 hours streamed :: lamy
>6146 median :: 35.88 hours streamed :: calliope
>6107 median :: 54.93 hours streamed :: watame

I can say that’s an absolute success for EN-AZKi which most people didn’t even thought would stream when the audition was open

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256864
Don't know if this is bait or cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257017
The numbers don't lie and neither should you. Why can't Holobronies understand that your whores are becoming more and more irrelevant?

[Anonymous No.]

>Matsuri opening to 18k
Good

[Anonymous No.]

8257114
> he show only 1 single stream with 2k when every single onther above 4k at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257114
Using the lowest one... so Kuzuha only has 16K stream at most ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257139
Special relay and all, but lol it's literally 10x her Apex numbers from last night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257156
>>8257153
I'm the one who posted the Irys Holostats pic and even I can tell this is just bait at this point. Just ignore and don't let him derail the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257139
Matsuri is interacting with others, a pretty smart move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257162
Holoshit should just uninstall Apex at this point. It's Nijisanji territory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8252894
for 2nd year maimoto made
mokota mememe, natori sana, shigure ui, piroparu, hoozuki warabe, and akuma no goat

tenkai made
kizuna ai, kosaka, inui shinichiro, omegasis rio, peanuts-kun, and gachiman V

so far so good, no holoshit in sight

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257211
indeed Matsuri is using her strong suit, but what will help mel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257234
They probably thought they'd get the same numbers as Kuzuha not knowing you'd actually need to be talented, charismatic and actually good at the game to even get a fraction of those viewers. I'm embarrased at Holo at this point; always copying Niji and ever offering something new to the table

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257089
I know median is a good tool for removing the outlier streams like the absolute best (3D lives, costume reveals) and the worst (superchat readings), but it's so weird seeing Botan, Watame, and Kanata only have a 6-7k median when they easily get 10k+ peaks every day, on their main stream at least.

I guess Watame has been cancelling out all her Minecraft streams with FFIX streams. Botan gets 10k+ at night, but streams this VN game to 4k people around noon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257281
Only Rio? No OmegSis Ray?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1360830188611756034
That's not the first singing relay with other branches by the way. That one peaked at 4,626 viewers though.

[Anonymous No.]

(you)
stop replying yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257026
>>8257089
For your median, how are you calculating it? The median of their stream average or peaks? Just wondering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257317
>but it's so weird seeing Botan, Watame, and Kanata only have a 6-7k median when they easily get 10k+ peaks every day, on their main stream at least.
That’s the thing. “Median” means “there are as many streams above this number than there are below it”. For each one peaking higher there is always one zatsu, debuff or just low attended to offset.

Either way, see >>8224322, streams over 1k viewers are more or less guaranteed to be one of the 100 most watched of the day. 7k is a HUGE number

[Anonymous No.]

>>8256676
Either we can try to accept that either ccv is fucked and it's a general thing.. I.e. every stream has an undisclosed amount of viewers that for what ever reason doesn't count for live but count as a view..
Or the more likely scenario in my opinion is that Gura has more start/stop viewers. I.e. You watch for a while, do something else and then come back. That will count as 2 views. Spread that out over a longer stream and you get an inflated view count relative to the ccv average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257415
Median of stream average. Peak is a nice number to compare 1:1 but too disconnected from what really went down in a stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>Matsuri 20k
Very good numbers, she surely will have much to think about APEX and Minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257317
Some of them have multiple streams per day.
Pekora streamed 30K+ game and 20K game in the same day few month ago,making her median lower than what we thought.

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri peaked 20k
Ollie next

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257522
So people watch pekora for the game and not the streamer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257515
Nope.
She'll be back to spamming apex because she has long since stopped caring about her numbers.
When does the singinf relay start for Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257547
Half an hour ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>8257547
Elira peaked at 3.8k from what i saw

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>>8257453
Nah, it's VOD views that are fucked and Chumbabies viewbotting. CCV is harder to inflate and it shows an accurate picture of who really cares to watch the streamer's content

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>>8257543
50/50 or 40/60?, but you can't put MC and game like shin chan in the same tier.

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>>8257627
this is kinda low for her karaoke

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>>8257705
>streams at 4 am
I wonder why...

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>>8257705
? 2-3k is her usual karaoke range

nijishitty are such midgets
why do we even discuss them in these threads?

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>>8257456
>Peak is a nice number to compare 1:1 but too disconnected from what really went down in a stream.
For a stream with superchat reading, peak is usually more representative of the actual viewership than the literal average.

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>Ollie at 18k already
I can see there are some 16k baseline going along with the relay and each girl brings the surplus.

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>>8257337
Tenkai's is only in first year, so maybe later.

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>>8257705
She got around 1,5k viewers cut at the start, maybe that's why

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>>8257772
We discuss Kuzuha, Maimoto and 3D debuts plenty of times here. The times Niji do mog Holos are glorious

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>>8257453
Pekora is the top streamer while Gura can be the top youtuber if she starts making short clips or highlights( her advantage). Does she concern too much because of management?

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>>8257456
Ah, I see. In that case, the lower medians make sense since I think only a few Holos can get a stream average of 10k, because it takes time to ramp up and usually there's a cliff when they start reading SC.

The problem I have with using stream average is that many JP holos spend significant time reading SCs in the latter half and it absolutely tanks the average of the stream. That skews the stream average to be less representative than the peaks imo. By the time they read SC, the stream is effectively "over" so I don't think they should be punished for going extra.

Peaks are usually deceptive for stuff like costumes, but those wouldn't matter much in median calcs anyways since they're in the far end. Compared to average (which includes SC dragging it down a lot), I think peaks are a better representation of the stream.

For example, in this stream, the bulk of the stream (MC) was above 10k, but she spent an extra 1.5 hrs on SCs and it destroyed the average of the stream.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/HiyMsaD-Dfs

Also, for the sake of uniformity, there's another anon here that keeps track of NijiEN's monthly avg and median, and he uses the peaks of each stream. So comparing Holo and Niji numbers would be a pain in the butt if one is using peaks and the other is using average.

Anyways, just my 2 cents. Would appreciate it if you could do a peaks median too.

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>>8257808
>peak is usually more representative of the actual viewership
No it’s not. Superchat reading is part of the viewership too, the measure is not “how many people watched Pekora play Minecraft” but “how many people watched Pekora stream” (on average)

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>>8257869
That depends on what information you're after.

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Matsuri brought the relay viewership down and Ollie is bringing it back up. She's really fucked with the holo fanbase, huh?

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>>8257950
shes a boring streamer outside of zatudans

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>>8257860
Gura has said during her post Reflect streams that she sometimes has the urge to post short clips but has to ask for approval from management. And that she loses interest/inspiration while waiting for the okay

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>>8257835
That's just nornal waiting room->stream cutoff though, happens Ll the time because YouTube.