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Genuine question I'm doing market research

>> No.81984430

I am but a Kinsey One male, but I can confirm that his sexy ASMRs were hot as fuck. That in no way cancels out the fact that he's a massive piece of shit, but the women who still love him clearly don't care.

>> No.81984937

>>81984430
> male
I clearly asked for women, YWNBAW

>> No.81985060

>>81984937
No, you asked for information on what women like about him. You did not specify that you wanted answers from women exclusively. What I wrote applies to anyone still following Vox, regardless of gender.

>> No.81985090

>>81985060
Show vagene

>> No.81985179

>>81984331
Look up the rake archetype

>> No.81985183

>>81984331
Well they don’t anymore

>> No.81985271

>>81985090
sorry don't have one

>> No.81985313

>>81984331
why do guys like Fauna?

>> No.81985337

>>81985060
Fucker, if I wanted to have a male opinion about what women think, I would ask explicitly so, otherwise stfu tranny

>> No.81985432

>>81985337
If you wanted female opinions why did you not explicitly ask for that then?

>> No.81985439

>>81984331
same reason they like Hex. Sexy deeper voice. Vox has a bonus of british accent. It's not just nijisisters either. A lot of large Twitch indies like Yocclesh Squ and SaveHymn gooned to Hex and Vox ASMRs.

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>>81985337
>otherwise stfu

No.

>> No.81985647

>>81984331
Appealing to fujoshi with BFE, fake being single, and got lucky with a decent looking avatar.
They don't like him anymore.

>> No.81985895

>>81985647
That original avatar really was pure sex. Like gotdamn. All it was lacking was a barefoot toggle. Vox, moron that he is, decided that what it actually needed was to look like a Rob Liefeld illustration that had been smeared with shit, and the rest is history.

>> No.81985958

>>81985313
They clearly fucking don't retard have you seen her numbers

>> No.81986391
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his original model was pretty hot but alas after the whole doki thing i can't like him anymore then again i was never a simp for vox i just watch from time to time that said his current model makes me laugh

>> No.81986442

>>81985958
Baffling post.

>> No.81986445
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>> No.81986586

>>81986391
same

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>>81985958
???

>> No.81986712

>>81986602
Do you not remember how much of a head start she had

>> No.81986752

>>81986712
Head start in what?

>> No.81986846

>>81984331
You should travel back to Luxiem during their debut days and ask that question.

>> No.81987015

>>81985647
>fujoshi with BFE
No, you retard. BFE appeals to yumes, although he did have some appeal to fujos with his gay ships with Mysta/Shoto/Ike. Personally I found it way too fake and forced, plus it relied too much on dirty and sex jokes, and then they pushed the ships too much to the point where it became awkward to normally interact anymore.

>> No.81987189

>>81984331
>bugs
>women

>> No.81988579

>>81987015
No you retard, so many of you are both fujoshi and yume at the same time. Doesn't matter, he never liked doing BFE or gayship to begin with, you parasocial fuck!

>> No.81988787

>>81988579
It literally does matter you braindead seamonkey, or is GFE the same as yuribait now? You have 0 idea about what you're talking about because there are constant wars between fujos and yumes in any media that centers anime boys, because what they want is totally different. The fujos that liked vox didn't watch his asmr streams, and his yumes weren't interested in his collabs.
>he never liked doing BFE or gayship to begin with
And I said I didn't like it in the first place because it felt fake, can you read? I have better chuubas to watch.

>> No.81988839

>>81985179
Read any Robert Green desu

>> No.81989550

>>81984331
>I can fix him

>> No.81990033
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>>81984331
Here's a dusty old sister site survey result. Each color from top to bottom for each liver represents love down to hate. Vox is quite polarized compared to his genmates so to answer your question, women don't "generally" like him like they do (or did) with the rest of NijiEN livers. He just found his niche and did well in it.

Also here's a fun bonus trivia for the lurkers: add up the red and blues and find out which of these livers had the most positive general reputation amongst the sisters

>> No.81990065

>>81984331
women likeD him*

>> No.81990159

>>81984331
You mean, "Why *did* women like him?" Have you seen his numbers lately? Insomuch as he's been appearing at all...

Women like a good villain. Sadly, he took it a bit too far.

>> No.81990183

>>81984331
male vtubers are hardcarried by their avatar

>> No.81990220

>>81990033
>fun bonus trivia for the lurkers
Selen, Enna and Shu
I don't understand women.

>> No.81990301

>>81990033
Why the fuck do they hate penguin so much wtf? She's so inoffensive and she made overlays and other technical work for a lot of Nijis.

>> No.81990397

>>81990183
male vtubers are hardcarried by their voice*
put an /asp/ie behind vox's model and he hits 30 ccv 8 minutes after the beginning of the debut.
female vtubers are hardcarried by their model.

>> No.81990993

i'm not a fan but i get why he's appealing. i'll skip over obvious shit like british + original model + asmr, i don't care. the way he talks about his interests is endearing like with games or movies and since i speak english i actually get his references, idk what his 0 eng speaking fans enjoy about him but whatever. i won't talk about drama because you faggots have discussed that to death and ad nauseum but his perspective on it changing was more than i expected a guy to say, he understands how the shit he says causes people to be parasocial and he can't take back what he's said and he can't fault them for it because vtubers and streamers in general exist to foster parasociality, it is inevitable. i rarely ever hear anyone acknowledge this facet of streaming like of fucking course a fan will be wondering about your personal life if you're a streamer who divulges a lot of personal info. you need to self filter if you want to avoid that, but that means being impersonal and he doesn't want to be like that so he's finally accepted that. i respect that kind of honesty but of course this board only remembers the reimu shit so i may be speaking to a brick wall
he's also a great collab partner even with people like shu back in early luxiem days when shu was way more restrained and awkward. the way he tells stories is funny. i like his meme references.
i don't get why men constantly ask what makes a male vtuber appealing like if you don't enjoy it why are you constantly making threads about it? or are you getting tips to stream? because why would you copy something you might not wanna do, there's tons of vtuber men who aren't vox tier panderers who just... play games and are fine

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>>81990993
>because why would you copy something you might not wanna do

>> No.81991598

Much thanks for the like 2 actual answers I really appreciate it

>> No.81992287

>>81991428
okay but you can make money with other types of jobs, do you really want to be a vtuber or do you just want easy money because if vtubing was the pinnacle of free cash handouts, you'd think a ton more people, men and women, would be doing it

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>>81990033
Looks like the ranking would be something like:
>#1: Selen (86.7% positive, 0.9% negative)
>#2: Shu (84.7% positive, 2% negative)
>#3: Enna (82.8% positive, 1.3% negative)
>#4: Fulgur (80.3% positive, 4% negative)
>#5: Elira (74.9% positive, 0.8% negative)
>#6: Alban (73.6% positive, 2.5% negative)
>#7: Sonny (72.8% positive, 2.8% negative)
>#8: Ika (71.1% positive, 2.4% negative)
>#9: Uki (63.3% positive, 4.9% negative)
>#10: Yugo (61.1% positive, 6.4% negative)
>#11: Mysta (60.8% positive, 8.6% negative)
>#12: Millie (60.7% positive, 0.9% negative)
>#13: Pomu (60% positive, 1.5% negative)
>#14: Reimu (57.5% positive, 6% negative)
>#15: Rosemi (56.7% positive, 1.1% negative)
>#16: Nina (54.4% positive, 14.9% negative)
>#17: Luca (46.8% positive, 17.3% negative)
>#18: Finana (45.6% positive, 3.2% negative)
>#19: Vox (33.5% positive, 27.3% negative)
>#20: Petra (8.3% positive, 63.5% negative)

Interesting results; it seems like the guys were, on average, a lot more polarizing than the girls. Kinda surprising that Vox is second-to-last, given his popularity... and what the FUCK did Petra of all people do to get that much hate!?

>> No.81992965

>>81992287
I'd simply do it better

>> No.81993137

>>81984331
Chink women are like how american women were 20 years ago.
They get wet over deep british accents.

>> No.81993267

>>81984331
>genuine question
>asks in the catalog instead of the appropriate threads where his fans are
Are you sure you're being genuine?

>> No.81993365

>>81988787
Anon the "parasocial fuck!" at the end should have told you this was a shitpost. You're not going to find any kind of earnestness in this thread.

>> No.81993367

>>81988787
Hit too close to home self-racist? you harass and dox each others, you are literally the same being parasocial fucks and bring down your oshi's reputation.

>> No.81993451

>asks a question directed at women
>posts it in a place where mostly men (trannies) would be
>is surprised that men are speaking on behalf of women like the trannies they are
What did OP mean by this?

>> No.81993540

>>81993451
>see all men as trannies
why are you gay?

>> No.81993574

>>81993451
You don't need to be a woman to understand statistics.

>> No.81993670

>>81992965
so do it then i guess? why ask about the appeal of vox if you think the content is bad?

>> No.81993939

>>81993540
>says MOSTLY men, referring to the men who speak like women and try to speak for women
>"yOu seE aLL mEn As trAnniEs"
Why are you illiterate? Is it because you're male?

>>81993574
So you're okay with women speaking on your behalf and calling you all incels then?

>> No.81993942

>>81993670
When did I imply that I do man why are you so defensive

>> No.81993967

>>81992287
hey retard, that is actually the case. just like streaming became oversaturated with losers trying to make it big, the same thing is happening with vtubing now. the reason why you don't see it that way is selection bias; you're only paying attention to the people at the top. plenty of streamers have talked about this already.
IF you make it big, money just flows in but most people won't; just like gambling.

>> No.81994128

>>81993939
>retard makes a retarded analogy
Not the same thing.

>> No.81994218

>>81993942
you replied to my question so i assumed you answered it, my bad
>>81993967
hey faggot, i never said that flops don't exist but not everyone has the mentality for streaming, let alone niche streaming like vtubing and not the shit twitchfags do where they're basically fleshtubers with an avatar they use sometimes. if streaming was so easy there would be one million more 0 view beginners trying it out. if your goal is money and not streaming why not like, get another job

>> No.81995785

>>81993365
Wrong. I wrote both of these and I meant every word.

>>81985895
>>81984430

>> No.81997154

>>81985313
no we don't, most guys like early myth Ame. The goslingposters were half meme half truth.
Fauna appeals to guys with mommy issues. Saplings have always been very weird.

>> No.81997395

>>81987015
>although he did have some appeal to fujos with his gay ships with Mysta/Shoto/Ike
Were all his gay ships only with these 3 or did he do it with more dudes? And while I'm asking, with whom he fujobaited the hardest?

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>>81992503
>and what the FUCK did Petra of all people do to get that much hate!?
Okay get ready and pay attention because there's a few moving parts:
/nijien/ has hated Petra from the beginning and made hating her a part of the thread culture, so the sisters that Luxiem and Noctyx brought in wrapped them up into that.
Chinese sisters of course love their doxx so they found out Petra's pro-Hong Kong stance in the past and that made them hate her right off the bat.
During Luxiem's initial success, most of the NijiEN girls were swept up with collabing with Luxiem/Noctyx every single week, mainly chasing their numbers. Aside from Shu, Petra didn't collab with Luxiem/Noctyx much and usually stuck to collabing with ID and KR members during the Luxiem boom.
Eventually Shu recommended Petra put together a Pogostuck collab, so she did. The collab was a disaster, so much so that she had to turn off the comments to her vod and apologized for putting it together in the video description. Why was the collab a disaster? Millie and Elira fucked off in the middle of the collab to stream Minecraft in a second window, Yugo went menhera because the game was too hard, Uki went menhera because he didn't realize his mic was broken and thought that people were ignoring him the entire time, etc. Petra was blamed for every bit of this because she greenlit the collab.
And then Petra was celebrating a subscriber milestone and Fulgur joined the stream. She joked about Fulgur's webnovel with him, but Fulgur's fans thought one of her jokes was actually a major spoiler about his novel so the sisters stirred up shit in her comment section until she cut the part out of the vod. Credit where credit is due, Fulgur stepped up and tard wrangled his fans directly. A rare case for Luxiem and Noctyx.
Somewhere between all this was the infamous Discord leak she's responsible for, and after all of that is when this survey was taken. Petra was THE lightning rod for the sisters' collective scorn.

>> No.81997845

>>81997395
>Were all his gay ships only with these 3 or did he do it with more dudes?
he 'baits' the most with ike but not really unless you count duo collabs as bait. he doesn't really bait moreso just exist next to men and gets shipped, this happens all the time. he has a ship with luca and they've never gaybaited together like the way shu and luca do with their wedding in taiwan or offcollab shit

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>>81984331
99% of the reason certain women like him is because of his voice, he won the genetic lottery to appeal to a certain demographic of Asian women. As for actual talent he's just a mental basketcase and shithead, so unless you were born with his voice there's not much to learn from him

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>>81997752
Damn that's crazy. I fell off of watching vtubers a little before the Ethyria debuts and didn't start paying much attention to them again until a couple years later, so it's always kinda surprising to hear how much of a shitshow NijiEN deteriorated into while I wasn't looking
>/nijien/ has hated Petra from the beginning and made hating her a part of the thread culture
That's part of why the Anya-Petra general is a thing, right?

>> No.81998528

>>81997395
I stopped following nijien pretty long ago, to my knowledge those were his main ones. He flirts with other guys and people generally don't need much 'matetial' to ship in the first place, but he did actively push all 3 of those ships I mentioned.
>with whom he fujobaited the hardest
Probably Mysta, all those bottom jokes helped with their popularity early on, but the fans it brought were also insufferable so the ship fell off pretty hard in the end (even before Mysta graduated).

>> No.81998709

>>81998528
>but the fans it brought were also insufferable so the ship fell off pretty hard in the end (even before Mysta graduated).
I think it stopped because Mysta refused to do the bit anymore since he isn't even gay. I don't know if he stopped before or after he started dating Mika.

>> No.81999098

>>81990220
Selen and Enna both leaned into being Chinese, they did a Chinese stream together iirc
Shu has always been incredibly inoffensive, some would say bland, would be hard for anyone to dislike him. The HoloEN equivalent would be someone like Ina.

>> No.81999148

>>81998709
That's definitely a factor but it was going to end up like that even if he liked doing it, and that's the fate of most heavily pushed EN ships. When it comes to jp vtubers, shippers usually keep their delusions private and censor the names when talking about it etc, meanwhile on the en side you have fans talking about it in chat, making annoying "jokes" about one half of the ship "cheating" when they collab with someone else, bringing the other person up in chat randomly and so on, it's not a good environment. In the end it just makes it too awkward for them to even collab together, even if they're on friendly terms. But it's still their fault for pushing it so heavily and then they couldn't control the fanbase since they didn't establish the boundaries early enough.

>> No.81999334

>>81984331
you absolute buffoon, you're not gonna get any actual answer other than larpers cuz every vox simp is a chink, try translating your question and posting again.

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