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8195143 No.8195143 [Reply] [Original]

Why are the Holo EN management still refusing to learn how Youtube works? To avoid your subs getting purged you need to upload some short videos so the AI won't think your subs are bots. For example after first Nijis lost their subs the next gen started uploading shorts before debut so they didn't lose their subs.

>> No.8195166

>>8195143
SMARR MIRRION DORRA INDIE COMPANY
PREASU UNDASTAN

>> No.8195167

>>8195143
email them to explain it. Or tweet at them.

>> No.8195191

Because Holo EN management is the Upd8 of the west, pissing away their first mover advantage through some jaw droppingly poor management.

>> No.8195203

>>8195166
niji en is literally ten times smaller and they have a fucking indian manager ffs

>> No.8195299

>>8195167
Even better, make a leddit post

>> No.8195306

>>8195143
They should’ve done it in the very beginning.

>> No.8195359

Yes, I'm sure they'll take advice from a company who had a cover of Gira Gira released at the same time as them with Anya, being the weakest Hololive member, getting 93k views after 5 days while they got only 27k within the same span of time.

>> No.8195378

>>8195143
>the AI won't think your subs are bots.
they are bots though

>> No.8195433

>>8195378
I'm a bot.
You're a bot.
We're all bots down here.

>> No.8195476

>>8195359
It's not like Niji invented this it's common knowledge among content creators and they were silly about forgetting it at first as well

>> No.8195549

HoloEN management doesn't care about pre-debut subs.

>> No.8195566
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>>8195359
Nijisanji did not invent posting on an account to protect it from being sub nuked. This is such common knowledge even children do this on Twitter where you make a new alt account and post slowly to avoid getting suspended for gaining too many followers and HoloEN can't even follow that. It's insane that a company can't avoid more sub loss by posting a video or short after a full 24 hrs of seeing subs be deleted.

>> No.8195625

>>8195566
And you know the funny thing? They DID post the shorts... but on twitter...

>> No.8195661

>>8195143
japanese companies are run by not only boomers but people who dont consume the product, please andastan

>> No.8195710

>>8195566
The mangers are only hired to tell the streamers what they can’t do.

>> No.8195718

this is a silly thread
they dont care about this because eventually the subs get added back and the only people checking those are numberfags
the boost they will get from debut is what they care about

>> No.8195754

I think to make it up, Cover should pay for advertisements right after debut.

>> No.8195808

>>8195718
>subs are pointless dude

>> No.8195842

>>8195808
pre-debut they are, yeah
once the channel starts throwing content at youtube they all get added back

>> No.8195867

They don't care and they shouldn't care, they'll have all of the ones they lost and hundreds of thousands more after debut. Why go through this effort at all?

>> No.8196078

>>8195867
You need to go through all this effort if you only have a handful of subs pre-debut and even getting 5k knocked off will be a death sentence that condemns you to permanent mediocrity.

>> No.8196169

>>8195867
>Subs are meaningless. Ever time you get rid of them, you can work at earning them back again.
Casuals missing the debut because they have no notifications, is not something Cover doesn’t care about.

>> No.8196218

>>8195842
>pre-debut they are, yeah
No, they are never pointless retard. People are subscribing so they can see when new videos come out.

>> No.8197807

>>8195143
Cover management ≠ competent and everybody knows that

>> No.8197880

>>8195143
>bring in more superchat revenue then anyone else
youtube still won't even bother not fucking you over

>> No.8198073

>>8197880
Google probably doesn't give two shits about superchat income, their product is selling ads and SC income is a drop in the ocean compared to that.

>> No.8198176

>>8195143
Why is Cover botting their subscribers?

>> No.8198421

>>8195143
Pre debut subs don't matter, their subs will be at 300k by the end of the week. This proves that the Youtube AI is getting more aggressive at "culling" real subscribers, I can only imagine what its doing to live viewers.

>> No.8198450

>>8195143
Why does this surprise you at all? Even as a Hololive fan, Cover takes the cake on an entire class of retardation.

This would only be thread worthy if they actually acted uncharacteristically competent for once. I hope to god those fags actually read this board and actually start doing right by their talents one day.

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>>8198450
>start doing right by their talents one day

>> No.8198688

>>8195143
Literally who cares. If she didn't debut she doesn't deserve any subs.

>> No.8200884

>>8195203
To be fair, their Indian manager fucking slays.

>> No.8200923

>>8200884
Heh

>> No.8201099

Hololive literally has no competition, there's no point worrying about this inane shit when they're gonna get 1 million subs in no time anywyas.

>> No.8201128

is anybody actually upset over this

>> No.8201235

>>8195808
Dead subs are, yes faggot.

>> No.8201364

>>8201128
I'd assume the people who were auto-unsubbed are slightly annoyed about it.

>> No.8201512

>>8200923
Maybe one of these days we'll see her in action. I can always dream, can't I?

>> No.8201543

>>8201128
I sure as fuck am, I got hard-purge unsubbed TWICE from them within 24h on a 2006 join date account that has never been sub-purged before.

>> No.8201650

>>8201543
YouTube has determined you are now a bot.
Congratulations. Please do not resist.

>> No.8203130

>>8201128
Only the bots

>> No.8203325

>>8195203
EN manager is probably East Asian based on Lazulight saying that she looks like a Kpop idol. Indian management was probably made redundant when IN was graduated.

>> No.8203362

>>8195203
RENT FREE

>> No.8203634

>>8195191
In the end, the buck stops with the CEO. Yagoo is obviously a too soft nice guy that doesn't hold people accountable for fuckups and is a massive saviorfag so he doesn't have the stones to admonish employees for poor performance and incompetence. The rigger for Anya and Gura should've been blacklisted by Cover six months ago. The internal strife between Coco and management also had Yagoo just watching from the sidelines. Coco wasn't lying when she said she likes him but I don't think she could stand working for a weak leader like him.

>> No.8204429

>>8203325
>East asian
Wasn't that HoloEN gen 1 manager? I heard that she's singaporean

>> No.8204547

>>8195203
>indian manager
so they know youtube like the palm of the hand they use to wipe their assholes

>> No.8204596

>youtube is fucking with numberfags
Based Susan.

>> No.8208117

When will that useless sack Tanigo be fired?

>> No.8208134

>>8204547
Why are Holobronies so racist?

>> No.8208294

>>8203634
If you watch Legends of Polka. The whole company sounds like a nerdy coed frat that plays games a lot with each other.

>> No.8208321

>>8195143
Where these guys in the 60s and 70s yesterday?

>> No.8208447

>>8208294
>The whole company sounds like a nerdy coed frat that plays games a lot with each other.
So basically Type Moon which is the funniest type of company to watch, especially if they manage to not implode.

>> No.8208807

>>8201128
I am

>> No.8208841

>>8203634
interesting

(me a holo newfag)

>> No.8209174

>>8203634
Why would the CEO care about an incompetent rigger contracted by Hololive? Management is supposed to handle those day to day tasks. Tanigo barely sees or interacts with the Holopro members and is focused on CEO shit like doing cocaine and fucking his secretary.

>> No.8212564

>>8208134
It's sad. The brown-skinned chuubas are consistently the least subscribed in their respective gens.

>> No.8212621

>>8195203
Noor is somewhere in the company and was part of the interview process but that's all we know, no real reason to believe she's their manager.

>> No.8212807

>>8201128
A little. A lot of hype is generated by word-of-mouth and if the word-of-mouth is that Hololive is inflating their new generation's subs with bots or that they're underperforming then people won't be as hyped for this next wave of entertainers.

It won't be as bad as Aloe's departure making the rest of the 5th gen feel like pariahs for months, but it will be enough to undermine their initial growth or the concept of the 'Hololive buff'. Those who were going to be successful will still be successful but it'll be a steeper climb to get there than it needs to be, especially for the want of a video on the channel. They could've even just used the standard HoloCouncil one for all of them.

>> No.8213101

>>8212807
uploading the same video on all the channels is how you get actual banned instead of just your subs nuked, it sees that as reuploading stolen content.

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