*Quill Yourself

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>>81333018
Based

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>>81333018
Imagine being the reason why someone kills themselves, just like Sibyl Vane in Dorian Gray.

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>>81333018
Everyone shut up, vox' cock sleeve is talking

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YOU SHOULD QUILL YOURSELF
NOW

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>>81333832
Kek. Needs the lightning though.

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>>81333018
I have no idea who this is and why someone would call his vtuber persona >I, Cleveland but holy shit >>81333128 that's cringe. That poor girl should get forcefully taken to a mental asylum like the rest of us.

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>>81333018
counter offer instead of quill myself i quill drink my coffee and jerk it to milf art of hatsune miku instead

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>>81333920
NOW

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>>81333972
More context

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>>81333018
I don't usually feel bad for sisters, but holy shit that is brutal. Imagine spending years of your time, thousands of dollars, worshipping someone, only to make one little innocent statement you thought was something positive...and the person fucking obliterates you for it. You know, without a doubt, they hate you. They despise you. That would be the worst feeling I can imagine.

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>>81335884
I just have to wonder if Ike even knows what's going on, because if he does then this is probably not great for him and if he doesn't then he's going to find out sooner or later by getting it sent to him.

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>>81336119
he doesn't seem like a bad guy or anything, even if he was annoyed at her statement I can't imagine letting her just get her life ruined over it. If he knowingly has been letting this go on he's a bigger piece of shit than I thought for not stepping in. A few nice words would be all it takes to save this idiot from herself

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>>81335884
It's fine. She's one of talents dogpilling on Selen during February

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>>81336279
The only way he could have come across her original tweet was by ego searching so I doubt he's completely unaware of what's now happening with her. Having said that considering her actions back in February I have little to no sympathy for her.

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>>81333128
holy shit what a clown

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>>81333832
the only thing that he known for

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>>81333018
lel

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>>81333018
Gura deflection thread

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>>81336279
>he doesn't seem like a bad guy or anything
That's a very bold statement, anon.

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>>81334500
wait, this is what got her and her sisters suicidal?
a nothing callout for a schizopost?
if only we could kill kakun this easily

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>>81337073
It was the reaction to that, since Ike has crazy reach, and dramaniggers made videos on it. So she's received death threats and mocking as a result.

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>>81337073
No, no, you misunderstand. Other sisters (including /NijiEN/) were mocking her or in some cases attacking her - until she came out with the multiple tweets complaining about how she's been treated and now those same sisters are blaming dramafags and hololive fans.

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>>81337279
>>81337307
I just now read
>>81333128
I almost feel sorry for her, but Ike kinda of fucked her over since she got targeted because the tweet was directly made in response to her. I guess this is why Kiara only vagueposts about specific creeps.

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>>81334500
wait so you're telling me this random twitter girl had this guy's fans all sicced on her telling her to quill herself just because the faggot in question is an insecure weak male that seethes about being in Vox's shadow?
Wow Ike is an actual fucking loser; imagine being some random no name fangirl just having fun with your schizo shipping and then your own oshi deliberately replies to you seething about his insecurities, knowing it'll sicc all the other schizo fangirls on you

Is there even a single male vtuber who isn't scummy or a massive faggot?

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>>81336606
post proof of this or you're just making it up to obfuscate and defend the Ike faggot

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>>81338324
https://x.com/QuillCocafund/status/1760317987628933279
She made a whole thread, brother.

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>>81335884
>feel bad for sisters

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>>81337834
>I almost feel sorry for her
Don't, she is one of the sisters who attacked Doki.

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>>81333128
>>81334500
Even more context for why people shouldn't care.
She's exactly the kind of person to do this shit herself, but she cries when her "friends" do the exact same shit to her.

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>>81334439
kek

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>>81338784
morally reprehensible people pick morally reprehensible oshis and get shocked when they do morally reprehensible things?
Ike is such a fucking pussy for directly replying. Just make a tweet about not being a baby and not being vox's bitchboy instead of proving you're a baby by directly responding.

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>>81333832
>>81334439
What is in the bottle? What does it mean.

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>>81338743
considering I fucking hate Doki I now like this dumb sister

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>>81338537
kek ok well I guess I don't feel sorry for her even if she really does quill herself, what a hypocrite

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>>81338784
sisters will willingly misunderstand shit like this but when Elira, Vox and Nijisanji write and say "Selene was in hospital because she tried to kill herself" they will just pretend it didnt happen.

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>>81338784
>And Selen did not follow the rules
when will these retards figure out that people simply don't give a fuck about the rules or that Selen broke them, because how she was treated for doing so far outweighed it in badness?
Nijisisters incessantly act like if they just keep repeating 'but she broke the rules tho' enough times it'll finally clear it up and the other side will go 'oh ok well I guess if she really did break the rules then she deserved to be terminated in an unprofessional vindictive manner and bullied to death' like as if that's what the point of contention is

it's almost like it's a misunderstanding that there's a fundamental difference in values going on or something that nijisisters can't seem to realize this point that it's not about the rules or what if Selen did something wrong or not

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>>81340413
All they care about is rules and hierarchy. Selen signed the contract, and Selen was below the others, so she MUST be obedient to the rules regardless of how it might harm her or the company.
The company can't be at fault. They didn't break the rules that they made, after all.
Nobody TOLD Selen to work so hard and try to be a better entertainer for her fans, or to promote the company with her own money and effort.
All she needed to do was shut up, stream in a corner to 200 people, and quietly promote/boost the boys that they actually want to pay for like Luxiem.

The favoritism, harassment, neglect, and overall lack of support from a billion dollar company was fucking disgusting.

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>>81334500
I wonder if Ike said during his first karoke about how nervous he was but I'm sure as hell not going to go find a downloard and watch the whole thing to check.

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>>81340801
This. Niji seems to operate a bit like a cult. Logic, ethics or human decency are all irrelevant compared to loyalty to the in-group.

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>>81340801
Nobody told Selen to post a video that could have gotten them legally fucked then throw the manager under the bus for taking it down. Nobody told Selen to not be able to handled getting questioned then having a melty over it

Sorry your egotistical fat grifter didn't get special treatment from her boss. Doesn't excuse weaponized suicide attempts and accusing people with no evidence. Still waiting for her proof she was harassed

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>>81341409
>post a video that could have gotten them legally fucked
>throw the manager under the bus for taking it down
>not be able to handled getting questioned then having a melty over it
the way they terminated her alone all by itself was worse than Selen doing any of this and nothing you say will ever change that
a multi-million yen professional company firing a contractor in the way that they did with that statement is beyond retarded and is exactly why jap businesses are a fucking joke to the rest of the developed civillized world

Nijisanji and its gay retarded rules deserve no respect for their behavior; Selen could have even made the whole thing up about the suicide attempt and they'd still be retarded

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>>81341922
>Telling people why a public figure working at your company was getting fired is worse than her potentially costing the company hundred of thousands of dollars, paying commissioners extremely late, falsely accusing multiple people of harassment and someone using fake suicide attempts as weapons in social warfare

So you're just admitting to be a 10 IQ knuckle dragging ape. They literally do the exact same thing to celebrities in the US and UK

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I'm getting the feeling he's actually not a good person.

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>>81342353
Yes, when you lie about everything for no fucking reason other than to hurt the "traitor" for daring to outshine management and the boys.

The actions taken by Doki, and the actions taken by Niji post termination are all you need to see to confirm that Nijisanji was lying about everything and in the wrong the entire time.

also
> potentially costing the company hundred of thousands of dollars,
She paid for the MV herself. She couldn't possibly have cost them anything.

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>>81344040
So you're falling back on the "Niji lied about everything" retardation despite saying it wouldn't have mattered if Selen didn't lie because firing her was the bad thing. Got it. Thank God you monkeys don't run the courts.
>She paid for the MV herself. She couldn't possibly have cost them anything.
Them getting fucking sued would have cost them a lot. Why do you think perms are a thing?

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>>81336119
Ike was part of the black screen; he knows.

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>>81340413
please, explain how she was bullied. Explain how "I can't get my vanity projects passed fast enough" = GUESS I'LL KILL MYSELF. She's a fucking grifter and a scammer, she wanted out and threw her friends under the bus to get pity money, end of story

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>>81342353
I see you faggots are trying to turn the clock back to February again. Your own livers acknowledge the suicide attempt happened, and the deliberate timing of the blackstream to coincide with the exact time of her first gaming stream is proof enough of harassment. You can scream and shout and call everyone else monkeys but we'll over a million people have now watched the video on Elira's channel, thousands watched it at the time.

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>>81341409
Yeah the owners of the Nina and Mysta IPs could have sued the shit out of Anycolor after that stunt Selen pulled. Managers saved everyone for a legal nightmare.

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>>81344282
I know you're clearly ESL so you're having trouble grasping the concept of hypotheticals, but the point was that Nijisanji's public trust is so fucking bad, and their actions have been so abhorrent to anybody with a brain, that Selen could have been lying the entire time (she didn't) and Nijisanji still would've been at fault for their ridiculous, unprofessional, malicious behavior.
>Them getting fucking sued would have cost them a lot.
No it wouldn't. Because the other party literally doesn't own the IP. Nijisanji is the only rights holder. Hell, they were even able to use Pomu and Mysta's voices in the AR Live without telling either of them.
And in the completely delusional hypothetical that anybody had a case, all that would happen is that the video gets DMCA'd and the ad revenue goes to the second party.
And the absolute funniest thing is to imply that Mysta or Nina would have any kind of reason to stop or deny Selen's project because they appeared in 3 frames for like 10 seconds.

Oh and also perms don't do shit when the management is worthless and too incompetent to actually perform their jobs. Rosemi's 3D debut still got DMCA'd and had its growth gutted despite doing everything by the book.

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>>81344282
The "perms" were for using the models of ex-livers - which Niji themselves own the rights to. Are you saying Niji was going to sue itself?

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>>81344282
>Them getting fucking sued would have cost them a lot.
Who was going to sue Niji? Anycolor themselves? Selen already got the perms for the music and paid the artists.

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>>81344646
>>81344561
Read the reply chain, you retarded faggot. The shitflinger said it wouldn't have mattered if Selen lied about the suicide attempts
>>81344646
>>81344585
>Ok, even if Selen did lie about the entire thing, so what? Niji still bad because they fired her and told the people about it
Like I said, you're a retarded monkey and the world is better now that you dedicated your life to defending a fat Chinese menhera on this board
>Nijisanji is the only rights holder
Wrong, read the contract
>they were even able to use Pomu and Mysta's voices in the AR Live without telling either of them
Mysta literally said he knew and stop twisting his words, you dumb cunt. Enna even said Nina let them use her voice
>all that would happen is that the video gets DMCA'd and the ad revenue goes to the second party.
Or they get sued and it looks terrible for any company they want to get perms from in the future
>And the absolute funniest thing is to imply that Mysta or Nina would have any kind of reason to stop or deny Selen's project
They weren't even fucking asked. Why the fuck would you assume someone's okay with you making money off them by stuffing them into videos without asking first?
>Rosemi's 3D debut still got DMCA'd
They already had perms but the auto detect bots got her video anyways. Monkeys can't read

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>>81344447
No no keep sperging i love it you nijiniggers keep on seething endlessly, go ahead get it out of your system, im about to bust fat nut to your whining!

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>>81345190
>a fat Chinese menhera on this board
Sister, you know you lose all credibility when you resort to random insults because you can't make a reasonable point, right?

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>>81334439
It's perfect kek

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>>81345286
Seethe more, dramacunt. You made no reasonable point so I won't entertain your autistic screeching

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>>81345190
>Read the reply chain, you retarded faggot. The shitflinger said it wouldn't have mattered if Selen lied about the suicide attempts
>given a hypothetical stating that even if their delusions were some form of reality, they'd still be wrong
>confused sister crying about OMG BUT YOU SAID IT WOULDNT MATTER IF SHE'S LYING

Keep screeching into the void, sister. Nobody's taking you seriously. They hated you in february, and they hate you now.
Maybe you should direct some of that hate inwards, considering you and your ilk harassed one of your own fucking attack dogs the other day?

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>>81345203
no response, as usual. because there's no way to defend her actions

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>>81345504
You mean the dramafags on this board harassed her while you cunts continue to deflect?

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I can't tell who's trolling who anymore on this godforsaken board.

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Suicide is badass!

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>>81345645
>>81333128

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>>81345385
I mean, you can keep doing it if you want, but all you're achieving is making people think you're stupid and not worth the trouble of having a real discussion with. By the way, the previous post was my first one in this thread, Doki already won and Nijisanji's reputation is in the gutter, so I have no interest in keep looping the same discussions with you, I just thought I'd offer some advice to help you look a little less retarded.

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>>81345572
This is boring now, just go tell another of your sisters to quill themselves.

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I have no sympathy for nijisisters but I think it was pretty unprofessional of him to single out a fan like that. If he felt that way he should have said it in a broad, more sweeping tweet. It just comes off as petty.

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>>81345784
>Calls someone retarded while directly image posting and showing your allegiance
Welp. Now holofags can't even pretend like they aren't holofags

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>>81345572
Response to what? You are just vomiting the same talking retarded takes as other nijiniggers before you, if im going to waste my time might well rub one out while you continue to bitch and cry without being able to do shit other than bitch and cry for almost 6 months since Doki came up on top kek

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>>81345924
Based
Real chads show their allegience to nijisanji by acting retarded

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>>81345924
>showing your allegiance
NTA but sister? Are you possibly retarded?
This is an imageboard. The image chosen doesn't automatically imply anyone's "allegiance," just that it best fits the post at the moment. I use tons of reaction images from people I don't watch or care about.
The fuck is that even supposed to mean? There shouldn't BE any "allegiance." The fact that all you give a shit about is which "side" someone is on is the most insane way to think about streamers using anime avatars.

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>>81345924
Why does it matter what reaction image I'm using? Would you think I'm lying if I said the Earth is round while using a Hololive picture? Also

>Now holofags can't even pretend like they aren't holofags
This is an interesting point, why would I pretend that I don't like Hololive? I also watch plenty of indies, and I even used to follow some NijiEN talents. That doesn't mean I blindly follow anyone or can't formulate my own opinions, it just means I like Hololive and their reaction images.

This is what I mean when I say that throwing random insults makes you lose all credibility. At this point, people like you are not even trying to shitpost, you all are just being painfully dumb and unfunny.

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>>81345665
The dramafags who are just trolling tend to just skirt around superficial things that they pick up from reading catalog threads, the ones who go into in-depth arguments about Selen's termination tend to be genuine, regardless as to whether they're pro or anti Selen/Doki.

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>>81345924
>>Calls someone retarded
because you are retarded sister

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>>81346411
>>81346379
>Guys, you shouldn't be thinking about allegiances!
Meanwhile if I call you out for being the tribalistic faggot that you Holodrones are, I'd immediately be met with
>Holo out of nowhere!!!
I love all the pearl clutching Holodrones do as they do the exact same thing but worse in the next five minutes

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>>81346760
Why are you so angry sister?

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>>81346760
I mean, if you try to deflect reasonable arguments using
>b-but what about hololive
people are obviously going to call you out for being disingenuous and dishonest, regardless of their 'allegiances'. Sister, just take a walk and stop embarrassing yourself.

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>>81346760
hololive derangement syndrome

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what do you expect from mr water bottle

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There hasn't been a sister like this in a while and they seem really triggered. If one needed proof that the ones calling her a fat BPD menhera are those same twitter users, this is a strong case for it. Recently it's just falseflaggers and shitposters but they aren't this dedicated to the bit so the best answer is the simplest. Sorry your oshi told you off for being obnoxious, ignoring their achievements and inserting your headcanon with Vox being the justification for anything they've been able to accomplish. The liver didn't need to be that direct about how much you hurt them.

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>is ok for ike to be a scammer and grifter
>is not ok when someone else is a scammer and grifter
explain this shit, they are doing the same thing

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>>81340413
They also don't care about whether the rules are ridiculous, they just care about the fact that rules were broken. If Niji had a rule saying you can only shit on the floor, and you took a shit in your toilet, they will unironically side with Niji because you technically broke their rule

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>>81338784
>Tweet dump shit like this
>Eventually your oshi ends up calling you out
Karma really is a bitch

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>>81347545
I still remember when the 2% cut for the merch was discovered and the sisters tried to defend it
>What's the big deal? They already earn more than enough and they are not the ones making the merch
>They are adults, if they didn't like it they could just quit
>This is normal, you guys don't have jobs if you are bothered by it

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Ike is a bitch, he can't take insults LMAO

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Little bitch probably is crying to his boyfriend about how the internet is being to him again kekaroo

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>>81344447
>please, explain how she was bullied
why did Nijisanji themselves pre-emptively bring up the fact that she had claimed to be bullied in their termination statement before she had even said anything? Very strange
Why did Vox - instead of simply denying that anything had happened at all - say "in my opinion it was not a form of harassment" in the black screen stream if it was entirely made by by Selen? Very strange
Why were Nijisanji/the EN livers so panicked by whatever was in Selen's lawyers legal documents about her claims that they thought they had to do the black screen stream (overlapping when Doki was live) as a pre-emptive character shutdown? Very strange
>Explain how "I can't get my vanity projects passed fast enough" = GUESS I'LL KILL MYSELF
that's not what her claim even is, her claim is that she was dogpiled in the discord about it and that this was also the straw that broke the camel's back at the end of year's of being fucked around and harassed by management.
>she wanted out and threw her friends under the bus
Doki has consistently never named names, never herself specified the livers were involved and consistently said to move on and not harass anyone - it was Nijisanji and the EN livers who incriminated themselves, not the other way around
>>81342353
>costing the company hundred of thousands of dollars
Selen paid for the video herself so this point is nonsense also Nijisanji own the IPs to the ex-livers who were in the video so this point is even more nonsense
>paying commissioners extremely late
no proof of this and people who Selen/Doki has worked with have always spoke highly of her
>falsely accusing multiple people of harassment
she never actually named anyone specifically or accused them of harassment, Nijisanji and the livers implicated themselves
>fake suicide attempts
why does every single non-Nijisanji person (such as the Holostars' friends, RPR, random Apex twitch friends etc.) and all of the companies and sponsors that have lined up to support her believed her and why has her family not come out and said anything contrary when they were involved in her claims?
Why does Mint believe her and support her despite having been the former #1 Nijisanji fangirl?
What was the medical record of checking in to a hospital being shown on stream, just fake? None of this adds up if she just lied on a whim
>>81344282
>Them getting fucking sued
sued by themselves? Nonsensical
>>81345190
>fat Chinese menhera
don't talk about yourself like that sis, it's ableist and not body positive
>read the contract
there is no other party mentioned in the contract who would own the IP of the image of the former livers other than Nijisanji themselves
>Mysta literally said he knew and stop twisting his words
just because Mysta knew doesn't mean they had to get his permission
>Enna even said Nina let them use her voice
not only is this second hand but also it's coming from Enna so not reliable
>Why the fuck would you assume someone's okay with you making money off them by stuffing them into videos without asking first?
nobody is disputing that Selen uploading the video without permissions from the former livers (that Nijisanji likely didn't even need to get) might have been bad, the issue is that what followed was so much worse that it doesn't even really matter anymore
for an analogy, imagine you had an oppresive nation state called Nijisrael who had been oppressing the native population of Selenistians for several years - in retalitation the Selenistinians do a suicide bomb attempt on one of Nijisrael's security checkpoints - and then in retalition Nijisrael glasses the fuck out of the majority of the Selenistinians with bombs and kills thousands of them and cracks down even harder on them.
Sure, the Selenistinians doing the suicide bomb attampt on Nijisrael was bad but the response was so disproportionate that nobody even cares anymore. That's what it's like.
>>81346760
I AM tribalistic - tribalistic against your dogshit evil company and on the side of literally anyone who is against it.

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Little bitch is probably reading this thread too

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>>81333018
Wtf I'd the quildrillion shit anyways? China shit?

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>>81344282
who would have sued anycolor?

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>>81339250
a bottle of water being held by the invisible man

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>>81348300
Quilldren is his fanbase name, his oshi mark is a quill. In his lore he's a novelist with magic powers.

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>>81348164
>Nijisanji own the IPs to the ex-livers
The termination notice says they don't own it. The contract says that they don't fully own it. They don't fully own it
>No proof of this
>>81338784
>she never actually named anyone
She didn't have to because she directly implicated the company.
>Selen attempted suicide twice
I buy the first one. The second one literally has no proof and was something she didn't say anything about until convenient. Point is she's blatantly weaponizing suicides like a teenage girl
> there is no other party mentioned in the contract
>"Third parties"
"Agreements made between both parties regarding rights"
You'd full of shit
>Mysta never said that he gave permission and Enna is lying
Or your rrat is fucking wrong. Mysta clearly gave permission if he was joking about it and multiple members say they were given permission to use graduated people. Firing someone for repeatedly breaking the rules and intentionally ruining your reputation isn't disproportionate. Telling people why you fired someone is literally a common business practice. Ever have a job?

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>>81348919
Nice bait, but even sisters aren't this ridiculous, come on.

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>>81348919
>"Agreements made between both parties regarding rights"
retard the line about "third parties" explicitly applies to the second party (the organ) and refers to shit like sponsorships or collaborations.
Nowhere in the entire document is Nijisanji put under any restrictions of any kind regarding IP.

>She didn't have to because she directly implicated the company.
So your delusions told you she was directly talking about the company despite her never mentioning them? I see.

>Or your rrat is fucking wrong. Mysta clearly gave permission if he was joking about it and multiple members say they were given permission to use graduated people
It's the exact same wording as when he found out about Millie's secret GC stream. He had no fucking idea and just didn't want to be dragged back into Niji's bullshit.

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>>81349135
>refers to shit like sponsorships or collaborations.
A third party is someone who isn't involved in the contract, retard. It's not referring to other companies only
>Your delusions
Directly implicating someone functions the same as an accusations in every court around the word for a reason
>He had no fucking idea and just didn't want to be dragged back into Niji's bullshit.
And this faggot wants to talk about delusions

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>>81349303
>A third party is someone who isn't involved in the contract, retard. It's not referring to other companies only
Anon, is the person bound by the contract, as well as its surviving clauses upon completion, involved in the contract?

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>>81348904
novelist that cant write a better narrative for the black screen other than drink water? KEK

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>>81349381
They get a different contract with different agreements upon graduation

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>>81333018
I think the funniest part is that the fan didn't even comment on his socials. He HAD to ego search to find this and got upset when he didn't like her fanfiction. Wouldn't be the first time he's buried women for not worshipping him the exact way he wants.

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>>81349487
Anon if the contract still has surviving clauses, they're still not a third party just because they got more contracts.
Otherwise Nijisanji themselves would become a third party in their own contracts by your logic.

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>>81345828
Agreed, but it does showcase how he feels about his obviously underage fan base. Replaceable bugs only useful for selling merch.

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>>81349785
Correct, they aren't a third party. The other members are and they have nothing to do with other contracts

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>>81345828
pitybaiting exist, he want to show how he is the victim here, even though he was the one who pander to this type of fans to begin with, otherwise luxiem wont make any money

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>>81348919
>The termination notice says they don't own it. The contract says that they don't fully own it. They don't fully own it
who owns it then? The ex-livers themselves clearly don't
>She didn't have to because she directly implicated the company.
there is a massive difference between accusing a company as an abstract entity of something, such as owning you pay or unfairly dismissing you for example as opposed to accusing specific named managers of co-workers of something like workplace bullying or abuse. You either disingenuous by pretending this is the same thing or have simply never worked a job in your life and just don't understand the difference between this.
>I buy the first one. The second one literally has no proof and was something she didn't say anything about until convenien
if you can believe the first one happened then there is really no reason at all not to believe she is capable of the second or that it happened, especially when her doing it a second time really has no bearing on anything and is just extra information.
>Point is she's blatantly weaponizing suicides like a teenage girl
wtf does this even mean? You think adults don't attempt suicide or even try to weaponize suicide?
>"heh, sure she may have been depressed and tried to kill herself because of her treatment at her job... but trying to kill yourself is like, soooo immature lol"
what kind of retardation is this? This says way more about you and your mentality than it does her
also, explain to me exactly what teh fuck is even wrong with 'weaponizing' your suicide attempt to take down a company that literally caused the attempt to happen?
>"Third parties"
>"Agreements made between both parties regarding rights"
so what are you claiming then, that the ex-livers own the rights to the IP of the characters/models that they were? Why the fuck don't they stream as them then? Why can Nijisanji seemingly still keep selling merch of ex-livers even after they're gone?
>Mysta clearly gave permission if he was joking about it
how does this prove he gave permission or even needed to? All it proves is he doesn't want people asking about it and is defusing tension about it
>multiple members say they were given permission to use graduated people
how do these members really know that the ex-livers had to be asked or that they were?
> Firing someone for repeatedly breaking the rules and intentionally ruining your reputation isn't disproportionate
Selen never did anything to 'intentionally ruin their reputation' it was Nijisanji who brought up her claims FIRST before she said anything in their termination notice, until that point her claims against the company were entirely behind the scenes. Doki has consistently said not to harass anyone and that she just wants to move on, it is Nijisanji who has escalated every single time.
The disproportionate part is in the fact that they were extremely unprofessional in the way they terminated her.
I dunno what uncivillized shithole you live in where you think companies slandering people they fire or shaming them or even telling the public what they were fired for at all is a normal or good thing but Nijisanji listing everything she did wrong and trying to make her look bad is shockingly and pathetically unprofessional to anyone sane on the outside.
Furthermore, escalating and doing the black screen stream - overlapping her going live - to assasinate her character and use her co-workers to do it and bring up things that should never be released to the public like talking about legal documents is even more shockingly and disgustingly unprofessional and not normal at all in any normal developed and civillized country.
>Telling people why you fired someone is literally a common business practice
It literally isn't; emails/letters of dismissal to an employee/contractor are almost always private and confidential and if a public statement does have to be made there is no reason why any explanation has to be given whatsoever.
I dunno what shithole you live in but this is not normal at all and you are just telling on yourself by saying this.
>Ever have a job?
plenty more than you, clearly
this 'muh company must protect muh honor and SAVE FACE and MUH RESPECT TO THE COMPANY and THE COMPANY IS FAMILY AND MUST PROTECT ITS HONORABU REPUTATION' type bullshit is completely alien in the developed civillized first world and you are revealing that there is zero percent chance you have white skin by saying things like this or even defending this dogshit black company at all.
Slandering and shaming former employees is not professional is literally any universe.

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>>81349815
In the Raziel doc she says that Luca doesn't particularly like his fanbase either, and that he particularly hated/hates them shipping him with other males (despite him playing into it for the money) and Vox has made clear on more than one occasion that he detests most of his fanbase.

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>>81348164
Holy based

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>>81333832
>>81334439
Kek

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>>81342428
What, the multiple sex pest allegations didn't tip you off?

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>>81350185
why do you think the nijiEN gura now low 4 views and lost most of his fujos?

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>>81350434
A sex pest would be inappropriate discord messages. Buddy straight up raped someone according to the allegation.

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>>81350681
Nta and I'm all for shitting on Ike but wasn't that claim made by Mel Nekomata? Considering her entire existence is one lie after another to try to gain money and fame I'm not really sure I believe that one.

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>>81350681
I'm definitely down for making fun of his insecurities and fostering a hateful, disgusting fanbase, but I don't know if I can believe that one.
Wasn't the accuser nekomata mel? The woman who lies about dying and cropping up again under a new name every other month? Last time she claimed she was being put in a medically induced coma or some shit and then mysteriously came back under a new name again.

Like I'm sure some terrible shit happened between the two of them if they were even involved, but she sounds even worse than Rushia.

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>>81350902(me)
>>81350835(not me)
Great. now I look like a bot.

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>>81350994
Kek. In all honesty though I would like to know whether there are allegations made by someone other than the grifting brap-queen.

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>>81333128
heh

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>>81350835
>>81350902
It is Mel Nekomata, she was outed for it because she always fucks up and gives herself away and her writing style is undeniable. In her last stream as Rei Kirihara she talked about all NijiEN males being sex pests, so that hinted at her planning something kek