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81332600 No.81332600 [Reply] [Original]

Since we have countless pro-Hololive threads, it would only be fair to have an anti-Hololive thread.

>> No.81332653

Nijinigger

>> No.81332682

post your best watamelon image

>> No.81332716
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>>81332653
https://streamable.com/amp_player/jgw3o5

>> No.81332890

>>81332600
Did you wake up from coma or what ? Nijisisters have been spamming anti-Holo threads ever since inception. The fact that there are genuine positive threads here is a rare sighting at this point

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>>81332600
It's over for this thread.

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>>81332682

>> No.81335405

https://streamable.com/729k04

>> No.81335494

>>81335405
this bitch has the worst fucking voice I've ever heard, how do nijinigs watch this shit

>> No.81335497

i dont hate hololive i just find their talents boring and their fans are the NPC's of vtubing

>> No.81335564

>>81335497
faggot you're just a hipster

>> No.81335635

>>81335564
NPC response
i dont care that hololive is popular i just find them boring

>> No.81335886

>>81335635
>ironic weeb that probably watches EN dubs
>calls others NPCs

>> No.81335945

Oh opposite day already? sure k
>HOLOLIVE BAD GRRRR 'ATE COVER

>> No.81335967

>>81335886
non response
i care very little about the japanese roots of vtubing

>> No.81336038

>>81335497
Nah, that's the people without standards who watch sleeping, reacting, irl-mixing vtubers.

>> No.81336188

>>81336038
as opposed to hololive that just does react slop, gaming streams, and then has the girls do the odd concert where they do some mid singing and dancing?

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https://youtu.be/c7zaTpwP8DQ?feature=shared

>> No.81336245

Hololive is like Apple. The first-gen was classic, the second-gen was an improvement, the third-gen was polished but not any different from the previous-gen, and the latest-gen is artificially polished and is the same as the last two gens. The more gens Hololive makes, the more the quality degrades. At this point, the only reason people watch Hololive is for the brand, not the talents themselves. Hololive's brand has become the main draw, similar to how people buy Apple products only for the brand.
Newer generations are seen as extensions of the brand rather than unique talents, leading to a perceived decline in quality. This is a problem for Cover Corp as people seeing the newer gens as extensions of the brand will now look for other Vtubers for a sense of "uniqueness" rather than "cookie-cutter" stuff. Additionally, the fact that there are other options(Vtubers) to watch further oversaturates the VT market. The VT market is now oversaturated with many options available to the masses. People are seeking “uniqueness” and are turning to Indies and small corpos.
This is why I think some Holofans(Tribaltards) genuinely hate Indies and small corpos, because they have carved out a niche for themselves with a dedicated loyal following (fanbase) without the popular-branding stuff that cuts into the potential viewership of Hololive. Hololive is trying to appeal to as many people as possible, but in doing so, loses that sense of "uniqueness" as people have noticed the "cocomelon" feeling to newer content.
Sure, a Holo talent may “overlap” an Indie/Small Corpo Vtuber and take away casual tourists(grey names or whatever you wanna call them), but the core audience of that Indie/Small Corpo VTuber will stay and they’re the ones that pay (super chats, memberships, merch, etc.), and they are the ones that really matter. The core audience of that Indie/Small Corpo chuuba is where the money is at, and if Hololive can't take them, then that's profit(money) Hololive isn’t getting/making. I’m not saying Hololive is dying, but what I am saying is that the growth of Hololive is at its peak and will likely become stunted.

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>>81332682

>> No.81338013

Hate the fans.

>> No.81338025

>>81336188
>React slop
But enough Vshojo or Plappa

>> No.81339007

>>81335967
>i care very little about the japanese roots of vtubing
Get the fuck out of my hobby you filthy secondary

>> No.81339167

>>81338013
This, but unironically. I can't tell them apart from sisters anymore at this point. The talents are alright, I think. I'm just not interested in them.

>> No.81339329

>>81339007
you... you realize that 90% of this board is dedicated to ENGLISH-SPEAKING vtubers, right?

>> No.81339532

>>81339167
So you don't watch them but somehow still want to insult them indirectly. Take a look in the mirror, you will find your "sister".

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>>81332682

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>>81335405

>> No.81339580

>>81339329
Yeah and that's a bad thing

>> No.81339589

>>81338013
Hate both nijfags and EN livers.

>> No.81339669

>>81339532
>I'm just not interested in them.
>insult
fanboy detected

>> No.81339715

>>81332600
Hololive is unhateable, they are the top of the food chain, sadly the only thing that we can do is leech and pray for our indie chuuba to be poached by them.

>> No.81339742

>>81332600
I don't hate Hololive. I hate Hololive Production.

>> No.81339764

>>81339669
>interested enough to reply in a catalog thread
HOLO


BOARD

>> No.81339799

>>81339669
>not interested in them
>yeah but their fans sucks
I hate nijifags because they falseflag as hololive fans, what is your excuse for hating holofans?

>> No.81339802

>>81339715
>Hololive is unhateable,
hololiveEN is very hateable

>> No.81340157

>>81332600
I don't mind Hololive, their content does not really appeal to me, so i just dont watch. I dislike their cult-like fanbase though.

>> No.81340249

>>81339715
>Hololive is unhateable
???

>> No.81340322

>>81335494
Her voice is ten times more bearable than Raora's or Kiara's

>> No.81340323

COCOMELON BAU BAU

>> No.81340387

>>81332600
Sisters should not have a place here. Bugger off back to tumblr, or wherever you spawned from.

>> No.81340472

>>81335405
>generic american male irl streamer with modern sensibilities
hololivefags don't know how good they have it
99% of indiefags are the worst, the 1% either keep getting banned or are mentally ill

>> No.81340569

>>81332600
I hate laplusfags and kobofags. I keep looking for loli lovers in cons irl but they're all chicks. wtf

>> No.81340606

Hate how some fans downplay criticism, but when shit gets proving right, then they embrace it. Like Bae's advice for Frwamoco.

>> No.81340645

>>81339799
>>81339715

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>>81340606
>Like Bae's advice for Frwamoco.
The what now?

>> No.81340719

>>81335494
Still mogs ShitRys

>> No.81340732

Hololive was the best no contest until it went full corpo in late 2020. Now it's cucked, for lack of a better word. I occasionally see clips of Holos doing damage control over random stuff and it makes me sick to my stomach. Also their fans are cancer.

>> No.81341489

>>81340645
for speaking the truth?

>> No.81341607

>>81340732
i don't see holofans sending each other death threats tho.

>> No.81341969

>>81341607
You literally do though, retard. Do you need to see the entire list of people holofags have harassed?

>> No.81341988

>>81332600

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>>81332600
i fucking hate how cute and talented and funny they all are. it takes up all my goddamn time.

>> No.81342117

>>81341969
nice nijinigger projection, i can already see you trying to somehow link Selen's attempt suicide to Cover.

>> No.81342177

>>81332600
i fucking hate how entertaining they are.

>> No.81342210

That's a lot of posts for a Dizzy deflection thread

>> No.81342222

>>81341969
>holofags
mask off moment so soon?

>> No.81342282

>>81335405
Well no wonder enna cuck has so much time to shitpost now, he probably dropped her lmao

>> No.81342314

>>81342222
>B-BUT FAG IS AN INSULT!
back to twitter, please~

>> No.81342375

They shouldve done more to protect Aloe
They shouldve taken Rushia's phone away
They shouldve forgiven Mel
These are my only qualms.

>> No.81342544

>>81342117
>Harass Kotoka into hiding over a rrat
>Endlessly harass Rushia for going against Holo
>Harass Calli for being on Trash Taste
>Harass Kronii for talking to Vesper and Magni
>Harass Aloe for having an ex
>Harass Towa for playing Apex with men
>Harass Matsuri for talking to men
>Harass ERB for collabing with men
>Harass Coco for joining vshoujo
>Harass Ame for dueting with Altare
>Harass Ame again for calling Gura a bitch
>Harass Calli for "getting Gura raped"
>Sexually harass Ina then complain that she's a prude for not liking it
>Harass Kiara for making other members look bad
>Harass Fuwamoco for turning Japanese
>Harass Shiori on debut
>Harass Nerissa for being bad at video games
>Harass Fauna for reminding strangers that she doesn't know them
>Harass Bae for collabing with men
>Harass Pekora over a rrat of her having a boyfriend
>Harass Towa again because of a "male voice in her background"
>Harass La + for talking to men
>Harass Miko because of rrats
>Consistently eat each other with an eternal unicorn vs beggar war
>>Harass Ame for telling people to improve themselves
>Harass Flare for being mean to Polka
>Harass Polka for being mean to Flare
>Harass Polka for supporting HoloStars
>Harass Polka even more for making fun of janitors
>Harass Connor for giving his opinion on Hololive
>Harass Marine for reading BL
>Harass Miko for reading BL
>Harass Marine for just being a whore
>Harass Matsuri more for collabing with Niji too much
>Harass the majority of ID for speaking to men
>Harass Vesper for talking to the girls
>Harass Vesper for raiding Kiara
>Harass Magni for talking to the girls
>Harass Altare for making Kronii laugh

You want to continue acting like you cucks are saints?

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>>81336245

>> No.81342889

>>81332600
What are you talking about? We have an anti-Hololive general; >>81268249

>> No.81343235

I don't hate hololive, I just hate the EN branches.
Vtubing started in Japan and it should exclusive to it.
Western trash has no business poisoning this hobby. All it's ever given us was a bunch of feminist ethots who will never understand the culture.

>> No.81343310

>>81343235
I'm retarded. Forgot to add remain.

>> No.81343331

>>81342314
>clearly throwing out bullshit sister talking points
>called out for being an obvious sister
>STOP CALLING ME OUT

>> No.81343394

>>81342544
based grudgeholder

>> No.81343453

>>81332600
Nijinigger

>> No.81343515

I hate Hololive because Aqua won't have sex with me

>> No.81343585

>>81342544
Nearly all of these never happened.
And of the ones that did (Fuwamoco, Shiori, etc.), it was PL garbage spilling over into Holo, or sisters/pippafags fucking around and falseflagging like they love to do and have been caught doing many, many times.

>> No.81343668

>>81335405
I fucking hate Chinese women so much it's unreal

>> No.81343685

>>81332600
>>>/vt//NijiEN/ is that way sister

>> No.81343745

>>81343685
FAIL

>> No.81343755

>>81343585
Thats kind of a cop out

>> No.81343840

>>81343585
>Nearly all of these never happened
>Except all the ones that did

>> No.81343899

>>81343585
>Shiori was shit on for saying respect my collab choices on debut
>It was PL garbage spilling over into Holo
????

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Cute dizzy boyfriend yab deflection thread you've got here, phasefriendo.

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>>81332682

>> No.81344336

>>81332600
They're the only corpo that's scared of drama which explains the sheltered audience which is cult-like in general
They're like Nintoddlers stuck in their own bubble being propped up by big faces like Gura, Pekora, and Suisei while the rest of their talent ranges from hidden gems to mostly forgettable that's only propped up by their strong branding

>> No.81344390

>>81344192
So is that why there's been an even heavier surge of retarded bait this past week?

>> No.81344419

>>81342544
You forgot the funniest one
>harass kson for telling schizos to not harass holomen

>> No.81344564

>>81340322
>putting Raora at the same level as orange woman and fucking Enna

I hope your mother slips on the shower, hits her head and dies from cranial hemorrhage.

>> No.81344619

>>81344192
What boyfriend?

>> No.81344738

>>81344619
me

>> No.81344746

>>81344619
Me

>> No.81344979

>>81336245
Replace hololive with niji lmao
I'm fan of gura and shondo your argument is invalid

>> No.81345076

>>81332600
i hate hololive yuripandering
that's all

>> No.81345126

>>81342544
You can add:
>Harass Kronii for reacting negatively to the subway jokes ran to the ground then proceed to spam the board about it
>Harass Kronii for getting mad at the random grey making the "holy boobers" comment then proceed to spam the board about it
>Harass Kronii for regularly replying to one of her favorite clippers on twitter
>Harass Kronii because one of her new models is not feminine enough
>Harass Kronii for complaining about her manager ghosting her for weeks while she was asking for game perms

>>Harass Matsuri for talking to men
One of them recently doxxed her because of this.

>> No.81345226

>>81332600
The company owes its continued existence to Mel, she could have taken them to court and reamed every single red dime out of them over the manager situation but she was measured in her response. And for all of that, she still got person non grata’d thanklessly when the shoe was on the other foot.

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The best thing to do if you hate Hololive is to watch their streams so you have ammunition to use against them!

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why are holo fans chimping out in this thread? you have the entire catalog to shit on other vtubers yet you choose to cry and piss yourselves over any criticism of the blue dorito.

>> No.81345594

>>81332600
NIJINIGGER

>> No.81345632

>>81342544
>Harass Kotoka into hiding over a rrat
hope she kills herself. I don't care about your nijiwhores
>Endlessly harass Rushia for going against Holo
endless proofs she's an evil woman
>Harass Calli for being on Trash Taste
well deserved, you are a subhuman scum if you think otherwise
>Harass Aloe for having an ex
not hololive
>Harass Matsuri for talking to men
just that? are you sure? nah she's a full-fledged whore who doesn't belong anywhere in the vtubing scene
>Harass ERB for collabing with men
ERB deserves a painful death not harassment
>Harass Coco for joining vshoujo
and Coco is an attention seeking camwhore now wtf the antis were right?
>Harass Calli for "getting Gura raped"
no you fucking moron we harassed this fat whore because she didn't exercise due diligence
>Sexually harass Ina then complain that she's a prude for not liking it
yeah Takos are like that
>Harass Kiara for making other members look bad
Kiara deserves a painful death, for doxing Subaru and being a me-me-me whore
>Harass Fuwamoco for turning Japanese
>Harass Shiori on debut
>Harass Bae for collabing with men
making threads on 4chan doesn't equal to harassing someone you fucking retard
>Harass Pekora over a rrat of her having a boyfriend
yeah the menstruation app incident, good thing I'm an ENchad
>Harass Towa again because of a "male voice in her background"
>Harass La + for talking to men
based? whores don't belong in hololive
>Harass the majority of ID for speaking to men
nobody cares about ID stop flattering yourself it's cringe
>Harass Ame for telling people to improve themselves
and Ame never improved herself, wtf the antis were right again?
>Harass Vesper for talking to the girls
>Harass Vesper for raiding Kiara
>Harass Magni for talking to the girls
no matter how you look at it they're quitters and deserved more than harassment
>Harass Altare for making Kronii laugh
nigger what? hyperbole?
>Harass Connor for giving his opinion on Hololive
literally Connor is inferior to Gura in voice acting so basically what he did was slandering
>Harass Marine for reading BL
>Harass Miko for reading BL
it's fujo aka niji fans that harassed them, trying to rewrite history again nijinigger?
>blah blah blah
EN board I don't care about JP

>> No.81345802

>>81345632
Who needs antis when you have fans like this?

>> No.81345804

>>81345632
TLDR version: They deserved it

>> No.81345811

>>81343235
Just to clarify, what is your stance when it comes to the following?
>Overseas Vtubers living in Japan
>multi-racial Vtubers (Half or Quarter JP)
>Asian branches (Korea, China, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Singapore, etc)
>JP Vtubers that are part of Overseas corporations
>Artifical Vtubers that speak Japanese
>JP Vtubers that do multi-lingual streaming

>> No.81345830

Holy shit dude this constant "NIJIS BE SEETHING" cult mindset is why /vt/ sucks.

>> No.81345983

>>81345126
>One of them recently doxxed her because of this.
That's niji MO though.
They even dox each other for fun. One of their biggest mods who hated Suisei did a stream that was just him doxxing the NijiEN girls and calling them ugly.

>> No.81345994

>>81335497
This. Some of the things they've done I don't like and generally don't agree with their policies, but I don't hate them or the talents. I don't care for most of them and don't watch, but no reason to hate them. The fans can get fucked by barbed lion cock though.

>> No.81346047

>>81342544
I love people that can hold grudges
People that forgives are faggots

>> No.81346114

>>81339742
I don't hate hololive or hololive production. Cover however can get bent.

>> No.81346148

>>81345811
>Overseas Vtubers living in Japan
They will NEVER ever be Japanese
>multi-racial Vtubers (Half or Quarter JP)
If they live in Japan, bueno. Asian Americans, however, go straight into the fucking trash. Western feminism and Asian conformity do not mix, ever.
>Asian branches (Korea, China, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Singapore, etc)
Cheap knockoffs.
>JP Vtubers that are part of Overseas corporations
Okay as long as they retain the same moral principles and keep speaking JP.
>Artifical Vtubers that speak Japanese
No opinion.
>JP Vtubers that do multi-lingual streaming
Fine as long as the JSL audience doesn't poison the streamer with their gaijin mentality.

>> No.81346203

>>81332653
fpbp

>> No.81346264

>>81345126
>>Harass Matsuri for talking to men
>One of them recently doxxed her because of this
Not surprising after they pass around Noel doxx like candy and doxxed Aloe immediately to check if she ever had a boyfriend

>> No.81346445

>>81336245
skippa skippa

>> No.81346555

>>81340606
catalog thread readers istg

>> No.81346796

>>81342544
Notice he didn't say anything about Gura getting harassed, which means this poster thinks it's okay to harass Gura.

>> No.81346968

>>81335494
Ever heard Millie's voice? It's SO much worse, actually sounds like a fat 40+ year old flip woman that's been smoking since she was 10.

>> No.81347007

>>81346796
She doesn't stream, how would she even get harassed? When she did though, it was some anti Loli grifters tried attacking her but that wasn't holo fans

>> No.81347100

>>81347007
>she isn't streaming so it's impossible to get harassed
you're a retard aren't you

>> No.81347254

>>81345632
this feels like a falseflag

>> No.81347392

>>81332600
You're not allowed to criticize Hololive /here/ unless you dress it up as hating homocollabers. Feel free to call Justice a worthless shit generation all you want, so long as you mention ERB at some point.

>> No.81347463

>>81342544
>You want to continue acting like you cucks are saints?
I've done none of these so I'm a saint. You should improve yourself if you want to be a saint like me

>> No.81347657

>>81346796
Gura only gets harassed for being lazy which is objectively true.

>> No.81347713

>>81342544
the absolute state of catalog reading threadshitters lmao
nigga sees all the bait threads about holos on the catalog and thinks "yeah those must be holofans making those threads!"
retard

>> No.81348027

>>81347463
You're here so you're automatically not a saint

>> No.81348141

>>81348027
You're just jealous a saint walks among you. Repent now anon, lest you burn in hell

>> No.81348212

>>81332600
hololive has destroyed my workflow, because now i constantly have to glance at the other screen when a holo does/says/is something funny

how dare they

>> No.81348432

>>81345632
Do you even like something ?

>> No.81350068

>>81345802
sorry I'm not a brainless simp like you

>> No.81350748

>>81340719
Stfu ennacuck

>> No.81351118

>>81345830
well guess who’s fault is that sister?

>> No.81352409

>>81332600
>countless pro-Hololive threads

You must not read any of them because there is plenty of holohate.

seems like this entire board is just people making posts of what they hate or worried about what someone did/will do.

>> No.81352655

>>81345632
fucking schizos GET OUT OF MY HOBBY

>> No.81355414

>>81345632
holy underage b&

>> No.81356469

>>81336245
>>81335497
>>81335635
>>81338013

Non-Simp responses are diamonds in this shit dreg heap asylum-ass containment board, Respect the truth but telling holocucks the facts is like telling democrats Kamala didn't get her coochie ran through rancid to be where she is right now, could say the same for the talents probably getting vented by Yakuza flunkies for a 3D event as opposed to any hard work

>> No.81357106

>>81332600
t. The browniest posters in the board.

>> No.81357151

>>81332653
FPWP you forever seethe.

>> No.81358729

>>81332600
This is like Twitter. Opinions here mean little. It's a great echo chamber though. Makes their numbers seem larger than they are. As if part of a large community.

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>>81345632
>>81346148
Have you talked with your therapist about this? Surely a trained professional may help you more aedequately than fat NEETs who live in your computer.

>> No.81359390

I don't hate hololive I just think it's bland compared to how it used to be (though EN was never really good). I do hate the fanbase, which is largely composed of far-leftist redditors and filipinos complaining about parasocialism trying to destroy the remnants of the /jp/corns that made hololive popular in the west in the first place.

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>>81332600
It's the Hololive fans' fault. They keep supporting that corporation.
https://youtu.be/akYgw3RLTZY?si=DllDRfCB1NPjB4Vu&t=275
Horrible fans. They even gather and have their own Holo meets. See the Suisei and Calli car? Cringe. Disgusting fans. They could better spend their time on /vt/ or Twitter. Hate
them.

>> No.81359672

>>81359461
Hell, some of them even make fucking videogames of all things that get incredibly popular which leads to smaller vtubers being forced to play them if they want views, as if they wanted to flex on them.
They are insufferable.

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>>81332682

>> No.81360165

>>81356469
You were the cuck in the other thread who said it was easy to bait holochads?
you are too pathetic even for a troll.

>> No.81360252

>>81332600
I don't give a fuck about Hololive itself but Holofags are really fucking annoying, I hate when these faggots show up in my oshi's chat and she hates it too
It also makes me pissed when I see some holofag who doesn't even watch her saying she's joining Hololive or should join, just fuck off

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>>81359672
>indiecuck seething
lmao

>> No.81360470

>>81360252
Yes, it never happened.
holochads don't care about your whores, redditor.

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