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80826717 No.80826717 [Reply] [Original]

I don't want to be an alarmist, but it seems like Gura is getting phased out as the representative face of EN. I kind of dread what this means.

>> No.80826860

>>80826717
only chumbuds feel the dread. every other EN fan will celebrate when the representative is someone who actually streams.
also why the fuck is ao the face of regloss? the art hoe is better.

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>> No.80827233

>>80826860
raden>>jimmya>=kanade>=ririka>>>ao

>> No.80827265

>>80826717
Why do you dread it?

>> No.80827290

>>80826717
>>80826860
retards

>> No.80827413

It would kill the casual vtuber market in the West, at least in NA, if she full on graduated. I go to 5-6 anime cons a year, and a majority of the vtuber related goods in the artist alley have Gura as the headliner. She's an easily recognisable face/chatacter that has worked its way into anime culture in NA. Once Gura is die, the casual fanbase that would normally look out for her and pick up other streams Holo streams for fun would disappear. She's the gateway drug for EN vtubers for anime watchers.

>> No.80827469

oh yeah bro this time for sure. maybe your legs will start working again too bud.

>> No.80827651

>>80827413
The next most recognizable EN Holo is Mori, but she gets hate memed on by normies (by all rights they should also hate Gura, but they somehow don't)

>> No.80827691

>>80827651
Because mori is a cringe wigger and colonizer

>> No.80827812

>>80827691
LMAO

>> No.80827862

>>80827413
That's why EN management tried so hard to create another 'Gura'

>> No.80827946

>>80827862
Which is like trying to create a second Marine or a second Eminem.

>> No.80827951

>>80826717
This wouldn't happen if Gura actually did anything

>> No.80827959
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>>80827862
>You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands.

>> No.80827978

>don't do your job
>profits start slipping
>company starts angling to replace you
What did she expect.

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>>80827862
Indeed they did

>>80827413
Yoh are right. Nothing will ever replace Gura. But I think even Gura knows she can't take it easy soon. She now has an actual rival, and its someone who is fast becoming the top cunny of EN

>> No.80828033

>>80827413
>It would kill the casual vtuber market in the West
there is no "casual vtuber market" in the West

>> No.80828044

>>80827985
I saw more FuwaMoco on display than I did Biboo the last 2 cons I went to in March and May.

>> No.80828050

>>80827651
>The next most recognizable EN Holo is Mori
all for the wrong reasons
if cover wants to shill garbage as a top product....
LMFAO

>> No.80828063

>>80826717
Mori is often second choice right behind Gura for Merch and deals, she has a fuckton of collaborations under her name, it's nothing new

>> No.80828074

>>80828033
By casual, I mean the anime fan runoff. You're right in that the normies of the west will never accept anime girls, let alone anime streamer girls.

>> No.80828091

>>80827985
Biboo needs a cute simple casual outfit to be more marketable

>> No.80828113 [DELETED] 

>>80826717
EN always flips between Gura and Mori dumb phasenigger.

>> No.80828147
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>>80827959
You underestimate humankind's love of freedom.

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>>80828147
>The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization.
>The human being created civilization not because of a willingness but because of a need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning. God was a dream of good government.

>You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands.

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Sora is not only the first Holomem ever, but she's also the first JP. As in she debuted first.
Risu is the first HoloID. As in she debuted first.
Mori is the first HoloEN, As in she debuted first.
Ao is the first DEV_IS. As in she debuted first.
If anything it's unfair that Gura took Mori's shine in this regard, to be the default face of the branch as it were, when it's always afforded to everybody else that debuted first and not shared.

>> No.80828202

>>80827413
>She's the gateway drug for EN vtubers for anime watchers.
Anon, that's Mori.

>> No.80828206

>>80828091
I feel like its going to happen, and soon.

>> No.80828224

>>80827691
You will never be black

>> No.80828225

>>80826717
One example of Calli doing something instead of Gura is your evidence? That's all you got? Fuck off sis.

>> No.80828251

>>80828050
Yeah, her 'owning the haters' didn't facilitate a great environment to watch her. Gura received alot more hate and anti's by being bigger but she didn't made a big deal out of it like Mori did, which was the correct choice since most of the hate for gura petered out because they have nothing else to throw at her.

>> No.80828256

>>80828193
>it's unfair that Gura took Mori's shine in this regard
She did not, sometimes they use Gura sometimes Mori. The same happens with ID for the record with Moona/Risu.

>> No.80828280

Gura made Hololive. Boosted all of JP just by existing. Everyone should worship her.

>> No.80828324

>>80827413
>>80828074
wait, that's a good thing, less normies = better community

>> No.80828337

>>80828202
No way. Just go to a con and show people a pic of Gura and ask who it is, then follow up with Mori. You'll get a lot more answers close or spot on with Gura.

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>>80828280
That fact is always forgotten. She was the tide that lifted all boats in the vtubing world.

>> No.80828372

>>80828324
The real issue is that less normies = less CONSUME = less events/oppertunities for EN/NA.

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We just had the Dodgers collab jesus you retards.

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>>80828342
Don't forget even now she's the one breaking the boundaries for vtubers. btw although The drone show was technically impressive. The crowd singing along with gura is more resonant

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>>80827413
Facts. That she literally moves the Holo quarter graphs with her actions is insane in of itself. If Gura was getting phased out it would have happened last year for sure.

>> No.80828986

>>80828280
You know, you could just admit you have literally no idea about Hololive history

>> No.80829136

>>80826860
>also why the fuck is ao the face of regloss? the art hoe is better.
Ao is probably the most naturally funny one.
Don't get me wrong, I'll shill Raden at any opportunity, but Ao has a natural talent for entertainment few can match.
So of course they maxxed out her model debuff.

>> No.80829146

>>80828986
On the JP side, bot a huge change. But she did put Hololive on the map globally as the de-facto vtuber company.

>> No.80829276

>>80828280
>>80828342
No.
Gura was the breakout star, but even if you disregard the groundwork that the likes of Fubuki, Miko, Korone, Coco o Hana did in building the start of the modern western vtubing scene all of Myth was instrumental in its success.

>> No.80829393

>>80827651
>normies
Anon, people who are still watching Twitch in 2024 are not called normies.
Nobody cares about her Twitch drama.

>> No.80829580

>>80829146
>But she did put Hololive on the map globally as the de-facto vtuber company.
No, that was Lyger's Matsuri clips. And Haato's English streams. And Miko's GTA playthrough. And Fubuki's meme song covers. And Coco. Gura debuted after all of that, when Hololive was already popular worldwide which is the reason the EN branch was created in the first place

>> No.80829609

>>80828171
>>80827985
>>80827959
Anons, Biboo isn't as great as you think she is. Botted streams don't prove much. Even fuwamoco mogs her by a great amount

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>>80828935
More CGDCT? that goes against what yagoo truly wants for EN. Thankfully Yagoo hired erb to help his bois out by funneling the audience from holobox into holostars.

>> No.80829718

>>80828091
so much this,her outfit is too "busy" if you know what i mean

>> No.80829755

>>80829609
Second guy is an obvious shit stirring troll. He pushes Gura v Biboo in every single thread with Gura or Biboo in it.

>> No.80829862

>>80829136
yeah her lower half design is absolute bullshit

>> No.80830134

>>80826717
Good

>> No.80830161
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>>80826860
Ao cute

>> No.80830335

>>80829580
I can agree that those things started the original core interest, but the explosion and rocketing to putting vtubers (and Hololive specifically) on the map for the casual anime crowd came with Gura and Mori, but Mori dropped off while Gura became the 'face' to the casuals.

>> No.80831838

>>80829276
Those were never good. The only reason those even had an audience was because there wasn't any competition. It's just like all those retards keep harping on about the old indies that started vtubing. No they were never good, there was just no competition. They was and always will be boring ass bitches that was going to get overshadowed the moment competent rivals appear.
Gura is the entire EN scene the moment she joined. Anything before that is a moot point.

>> No.80832299

>>80826717
>hololive giving a chance to other members as usual
>retard: omg Gura is being replaced

>> No.80832453

>>80826717
Mori is more popular with the slants so they use her for moonspeak and Gura everywhere else. This has been the case for a while.

>> No.80832511

>>80832299
No but Anon in the shuffle medley the finale was Sora, Risu, and Irys so clearly Gura is going to fucking die. Any day now. Just wait. It'll happen. I swear.

>> No.80832649

>>80829136
Ao is a literal liability on every Collab she's in and a fair share of JP anons have began to hate her constant collabs with senchou. It should've been Raden or Hajime instead.

>> No.80833347
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>>80831838
yannoka?kora

>> No.80833443

>>80831838
ogey falseflagger

>> No.80833631

>>80827233
>Raden best ok
>Ao last....

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>>80826717
maybe she will stream if she wants to be the face of EN

>> No.80833757

>>80826860
The opposite actually, Gura deserves not to have to work after how morons like you have treated her so she can do whatever she wants and I'll approve of it. Because the enemy is you, the manipulative fag, not the streamer and not the company, it's you and any management that stoops to listen to your wet toad noises.

Everything Gura does is perfect and everything you do is complete shit, including trying to plug anti-natalist culture here. If anything /vt/ and idol itself a siren song against anti-natalism, men are forgetting feminism and realizing women exist in the rest of the world. That not every woman has taken up the culture of powerhatepowerhatepowerhate and still wants to be a real person. Of course you mutants hate it here it's literally art about how you'll fail to bring about Fordism bullshit.

No matter how much feminism you do there are still real women willing to cut you off at the pass and it pisses you off, end of story, you have no other motivations for any of these behaviors

>> No.80833760

>>80828935
>dimitri "Jap"
please tell me this is his real name.

>> No.80833897

>>80833757
I really hate chumbuds. I dont even hate Gura, but goddamn I hate chumbuds.

>> No.80834036

>>80833897
Pretty sure those are the same "people" that screencap their own posts and then make threads titled "Why are chumbuds like this?"

>> No.80834349

>>80826860
Ao has the most recognizable design. That's what you need for representing

>> No.80834490

>>80832299
nope. Cover has always been intentional on who they use for advertising. Choosing Mori over Gura for something like this is a bit odd.

>> No.80834600 [DELETED] 

>>80826717
Gura doesn't want to be the face of Hololive, nor should she be pushed into such a role. Leave that for the number monkeys like Suisei and Pekora who only care about how many people are watching them rather than forming a real connection with their audience. If she could, Goob would gladly trade all her fame and fortune for a small group of loyal chumbies. She never asked for any of this, stop trying to push it onto her.

>> No.80834629

>>80826717
If they replace Gura with ERB then it'll be confirmed there are some shenanigans going on.

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>>80827233
whoa there faggot. Hajime deserves first place for one, the rest are all equal under her.

>> No.80834709

>>80826717
>GuRa bEiNg pHaSeD OuT!!
>it's just mori getting merch

did.. did the Dodgers ballgame not happen in the nijisisterverse?

>> No.80835192

The only thing that should be getting phased out is phase connect, aaaaaayyyy

>> No.80835375

>>80826860
they could have at least have Ao wear her sex idol outfit instead of the oversized suit...

>> No.80835562

>>80826860
>Least obvious falseflag sistah

>> No.80835614

>>80826717
What did phasecucks do this time ?

>> No.80835661

Retarded thread, they've been alternating between Mori and Gura as the EN "face" for years now

>> No.80835732

>>80835661
nijifags cant understand the concept of a company promoting everyone instead of a select few

>> No.80835771

>>80833757
>after how morons like you have treated her
This is why I fucking hate chumbuds. Shut up you stupid fucking retard.

>> No.80835909

>>80829755
Chumkek cope. Gura's activity will mean that others will take over. No king or queen rules forever. And now, only one person is the closes to matching Gura.

>>80829609
>muh bots
Ennacuck cope. If you're going to bring in bots you might as well bring up the dogs (you) ennacuck has also botted the. And Biboo has beaten Gura once WITHOUT bots.

Tl;dr Unlike you two cücks, I don't underestimate Biboo. She has been improving in a way not seen before in chuuba history. The shark had better not be lazy for too long.

>> No.80836218

>>80835771
Post tits

>> No.80836249

>"Oh wow, that's an interesting character! A shark girl streamer?"
>>"Yea, her name is Gawr Gura! you can catch her streaming on youtube!"
>*Anon looks her up and waits to watch her stream*
>*Literal weeks pass by and the interest of anon has long since fallen off*
I can see why they'd shift to a more active Mori also Americans don't like lolishit

>> No.80836346

>>80835909
This is why pebbles are becoming more toxic than chumbuds. They'll even excuse the botters if it means more shitalking. Just admit that biboo is not the face of advent or anything.

>> No.80836352

>>80835909
Sorry anon but Gigi will kill biboo in no time

>> No.80836470

>>80835909
Don't forget a lot of pebbles are weaponized against Gura from the Palworld stream
>TLDR: Gura is playing and yapping away in the disc, biboo shows up and starts yapping too, Gura mutes the entire disc call and plays "quietly"

>> No.80836593

>>80834663
Jimmy's intro and outro are peak soul.

>> No.80836659 [DELETED] 

>>80835909
You literally samefagged this exact same conversation in multiple threads.

>> No.80837241

>>80836249
>*Anon looks her up and waits to watch her stream*
Right here is where we depart the normal plane of existence and are transported to Planet Retard. This is not how people behave. How often do you learn about a chuuba and they happen to be live at that very moment? When they aren't do you sit like a retard on their channel page f5ing until the next time they go live or do you watch their other shit?
They'll look up Gura or Gawr Gura on YouTube and be hit with VODs, Shorts, clips, songs, compilations and everything that anyone would realistically need to see in order to understand who she is and what kind of content she makes. They subscribe, wait for her to go live, and get notifications when she does.

>> No.80837489

Gura has basically already graduated with how little she streams, they could get an AI to do her voice for promotional stuff and no one would notice

>> No.80837790

>>80837241
>They'll look up Gura or Gawr Gura on YouTube and be hit with VODs, Shorts, clips, songs, compilations and
>Normies vodwatching
LOL
LMAO even

>> No.80837847

>>80837489
why waste the money on AI when Mumei is already working for them?

>> No.80838843 [DELETED] 

>>80826860
nice seethe nijinigger.

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>>80836352

>> No.80838966

>>80826717
>chosen to do the Dodgers collab
>getting phased out
Wut...?

Anon did you hit your head? Mori has prominent as a face of EN.

>> No.80840599

>>80826717
ok sister

>> No.80842389

>>80834600
>Pekora
>Not caring about her fans
Everything she does is for the entertainment of her fans, but i guess being dedicated is a concept Gura fans will never understand.

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>>80826860
Ao is cute

>> No.80842535

>>80842389
>Wanted to do that fan-interaction project
>Got the phone call midstream from her manager telling her fuck no
>Not a day later that manager is fearing for his life because he made Pekora cry on stream

Good times

>> No.80842576

>>80826717
yeah, ERB was hired as her replacement

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>>80826860
nijinigger seethe. looking forward to another sub-30k 3D debut?

>> No.80842876

Honestly, why don't Holos stream anymore? All of the Holos I like don't stream anymore. Because of this I haven't watched Hololive in a good while and am no longer interested.

>> No.80842901

>>80842876
This is why I moved to Phase Connect. Nonstop streams, nonstop kino.

>> No.80842907

>>80828033
There is absolutely a casual vtuber market. They're called clipwatchers

>> No.80843531

http://poal.me/gcjo8o

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>>80842901
Kino
https://files.catbox.moe/fhwjok.mp4

>> No.80844323

>>80842876
Fanbase is so grating they can't stand interacting with them

>> No.80844502

>>80842901
Not my cup of tea(or coffee heh) but you do you.

>> No.80844837

>>80828337
Mori has two anime tie-ups, has done appearances at One Piece events, and she works with people who make anime music like TeddyLoid, FAKE TYPE., etc. and gets mentioned on their social media. She is much more connected to the anime scene than Gura.

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>>80826717
As a Chumbud, even I feel they should let other EN get some limelight.

>> No.80850733

>>80827085
>Myth fails to protect Gura
Yup

>> No.80850750

>>80826717
based

>> No.80851519

>>80826717
They have always flip flopped between using Mori or Gura. They will always be the "Faces of EN". Same reason they are both getting scale figures.

>> No.80851845

>>80827651
Mori maybe since she's so established, but fuwamoco have been making incredible waves, though I don't think they're a good gateway drug for normies (they tend to catch weebs). Fauna/Mooms would probably be the one after Mori for normies, or unironically ERB with her incredibly recognizable song choices for the US, regardless of your feelings on "homocollabs."

>> No.80854679

Did RevSaysDesu make this thread? It stinks of his usual pedophilia

>> No.80855958

>>80826717
>Hololive's main representative in their largest collab
>She's being phased out
Fuck off dramafags

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>>80826717
If anything Mori makes more sense since all the other ones are just the first members to debut in their group(which Mori was for EN). Gura was always the exception there purely because of her popularity

>> No.80856384

>>80832649
>Ao is a literal liability on every Collab she's in and a fair share of JP anons have began to hate her
QRD? I don't watch her because I don't like tranny models

>> No.80856511

>>80856384
You don't watch her because you are mentally ill. In other words, you are a retard.

>> No.80857105

>>80828224
Cope some more
>>80827691
Is right. She’s a wigger and it will never not be embarrassing.

>> No.80857140

>>80826717
Which of the voices in your head told you this, anon?

>> No.80857455

>>80835909
Trying too hard. But whatever helps you sleep at night pebblephile.

>> No.80858973

>>80856511
No, I don't watch her because I don't like tranny models and woman pretending to be men in any fashion whatsoever. Not saying you can't do the same.

>> No.80859034

>>80829393
Whoa, careful now. Such wisdom is not normally uttered around these parts.

>> No.80859208

>>80826717
Considering Gura isn't very active, isn't that a good thing.
You wouldn't make Ayame the face of HoloJP either.

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>>80844243
Do people actually enjoy getting third wheeled like this? This kind of behavior infuriates me to no end IRL

>hey let's (go do thing)
>ok sure, I'm gonna bring my gf/bf/random other friend too
>uhhh...ok

>> No.80861097

>>80826717
ERB and StarsEN are the new face get used to it chuddy

>> No.80863573

>>80828193
>Calli debuted first
what the fuck, I guess I Mandela'd myself, because I thought Ame debuted first, not last.

>> No.80867267

>>80826717
Good

>> No.80867325

>>80826717
nigger.

>> No.80869008

>>80826717
do you think risu and sora are the big faces of id and jp either, sister?

>> No.80869111

>>80826717
OH NO NO NO NO NO ENSHARTS???

>> No.80871523

>>80826717

>> No.80872399

>>80826717
nijinigger hand typed this.

>> No.80875928 [DELETED] 

>>80826717

>> No.80877703

>>80833757
It's actually hard to tell if this is a real chumbud or a mimic troll kek

>> No.80877921

>>80826717
>Moron doesn’t realize that merch is now gonna be handled by the USA office so it’s gonna be separate.
Doompost fail.

>> No.80880510

>>80827085
>filename
LOL

>> No.80883590

>>80832511
2 weeks

>> No.80884205

>>80836346
Because she's not getting botted in the vast majority of streams and the bots are all coming from a single mindbroken SEAfag subhuman, who doesn't care about Biboo in the first place and was only botting her stream so she'd out pace Fauna's CCV.

>> No.80884297 [DELETED] 

>>80838907
rmao

>> No.80884356

>>80836352
rmao

>> No.80884705

Too lazy to stream 3 times a year at a baseball game, prerecorded.

>> No.80884757

>>80826717
>streamer company wants a mascot that streams
Shocking.

>> No.80884759

>>80827085
>deporting nijizhangs back to bilibili

>> No.80884817

>>80827413
Filian and Ironmouse will dominate vtubing as hololive en reclines and nijien is sent to china to break rocks in the desert.

>> No.80884836

>>80827985
lmfao, Biboo isn't even the most popular girl in her own gen, she is nothing compared to Gura. The fact that Justice has an even MORE blatant Gura ripoff than Biboo shows Cover has already moved on and is trying yet again.

Gura herself seems to be here to stay now. She takes breaks, but they're shorter and she tells us ahead of time. Like in her last member stream she said she'd be away until August. She's not going anywhere, I think she's a lifer. They made her an offer she can't refuse.

>> No.80885458

Biboo could never top Gura because she’s too robotically wholesome. People like that Gura is cute but also weird and not above dropping an occasional fuck, or talking about feet. Biboo is so committed to her wholesome brand that it will always filter people who want someone more relatable and emotionally varied.

>> No.80890958

>>80885458
>robotically wholesome
isn't that just hololive's brand

>> No.80894139

>>80884817
>Filian and Ironmouse will dominate vtubing
I think you just monkey paw'ed em somehow.

>> No.80894216

>>80833760
It was.
A while ago the Jap part changed to some Japanese surname so either the Jap part was not real ever or he married a JP woman and legally took her family name not so long ago.

>> No.80894253

>>80828935
Someone plz cure Gura of whatever condition she might have if she ain't gaslighting us with the whole sickness bit.

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