We finally know?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEKQiV9XwDk
One of, if not THE best concept was thrwn into the bin. Why? Because a higher up self inserted? At least we now know there's no returning

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>>80542747
Gura and Mori doomposting with Kiara mentioning Omega more frequently in her recent streams.

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>>80542931
>doomposting
Got any examples?

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>Because a higher up self inserted?
unironically yes, the guy bragged about "being there from the very beginning", he was probably Enma or AO- Chan or some shit.
What most likely happened was that this cunt convinced the idiots at JP that the EN branch really needs their own A-Chan and the idiots went for it and gave him unlimited opportunities to grandstand.

This is rrat territory but more and more im starting to believe the theory that there really was some invisible war going on behind the scenes with the "CGDCT rangers" basically forcing that faggot out.

Shortly after he disappeared Kiara very clearly and explicitly talked how 2022 was a shitshow behind the scenes but that there's been a management change and the future is looking bright etc.

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>>80543176
>This is rrat territory but more and more im starting to believe the theory that there really was some invisible war going on behind the scenes with the "CGDCT rangers" basically forcing that faggot out.
This is retarded. This guy was clearly just bad at his fucking job and an attention whore. Even the homos didn't have anything good to say about the person this supposedly was, and the Homostars were allegedly getting everything they ever wanted according to shitposters on /vt/.

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>>80543368
Stars probably hate him because he only made the girls resent them even more

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>>80543048
From Mori doompost.
>It might get resolved, it might not
>I wasn't sure if I could stream today but I'm glad I did because I feel a lot better now
>Maybe things will resolve themselves but there is a chance that.. yeah
>Hopefully I won't- I don't think I'll even be able to talk about it
>My hope is that everything gets solved and I just forget that there was ever a problem in the first
>I don't like talking about bad news in the first place especially if it's bad news I know is gonna make a lot of people mad
>[Talks about not wanting to make people's day worse by watching her stream and wants to make your day better]
>I'm sure it'll be fine, I don't think I'll need to say anything
>I hope

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>>80543779
I think that's more likely to be related to China, or other corpo nonsense caused by Cover wanting to expand. I don't see Omega ever coming back.

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>>80543779
wait so gura herself cant get priority on getting some of her own merch for her parents? why is that?

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>>80542747
I wonder if it's still possible to salvage the design

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>>80543779
Rrat: after Mori and now Gura, I am 100% certain it is to do with Cover going back to Bilibili....Myth was very close to Coco and they dont like this decision... That is why Mori said that she hopes it resolves itself meaning its a one time thing.
Rrat 2: The toe part is an analogy that someone below her is taking potshots at her. jurard, coinciding with the fact that he said the talents are not who you think they are. After ranting on about the girls being his coworkers and that him greeting them is normal.

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>>80544112
Turn it into a loli with an appropriate voice behind it
There

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>>80544210
>MEH
>TOE
>BETRAYED
It's probably someone below her in importance doing retarded stuff against her.

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>>80544112
it's possible, but highly unlikely to happen, just like what happened to proto-lui and proto-chloe
cover would likely reprise the artist for another design instead

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>>80544210
It's most likely rrat2. Kiara is pressuring management to do the right thing and fire the homo after the his degree told him to dramafag and called the girls fake.

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>>80544497
After all, management wouldnt want an Omegatroon II situation, right?

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>>80543998
The line was too long :3

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>>80543368
Altare and Axel talked about their initial management back in January and not so subtly painted a picture that their personal managers were the ones helping them and doing a majority of the work. Their branch and higher up seem like they either didn't do shit or did it poorly. (It genuinely sounds like a carbon copy of Myth's rough start.) Considering they and the rest of the guys seem much happier with the management restructuring, yeah, seems like Omega was a shitter to everyone.

The management change is still part of one of my big rrats on why the two quitters fucked off as well.

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>>80544497
this will be the TRUE test if Kiara and the CGDCT faction really have any power at all to force the "undesirables" out of the company.

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>>80544536
Erb is their newest attempt to do what omega failed to do.

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>>80544210
Rrat 2 is very weak. It does not explain what Mori said, and I seriously doubt Gura even knows what that pagpag eater said, let alone let it affect her in any way. Does the timing of her member post even fit with the drama?

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>>80544617
the red bitch has even less power to do shit compared to Omegay. She will absolutely fail in that endeavour.

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>>80543960
It's definitely not anything to do with omega, kiara just shat all over him with the weegee board. made it very clear he's been gone for a long time.

if it's management based it's likely either the china expansion because everyone with a brain knows that never goes well or en is continuing to get screwed out of opportunities in general in favour of propping up freeloaders (who could that be, definitely not a loudmouthed protected retard).

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>>80544600
It's gonna end in a tie

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>>80544210
>was very close to Coco
roru

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>>80544652
It's a day after it, which probably means it's a meh

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>>80544112
Yes/No. The design itself no. Elements of the design like Nerissa carries elements of Aloe's design.

The real question... what did that bustard do too my Lillianne!?

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>>80542747
The most obvious likely thing to me seems what a lot have been theorizing, that omega was directly related to whoever was in charge at the time who caused EN's success to dip by pushing all the the unity, "they are all hololive" shit to prop up the bois at expense of the girls, which obviously didn't pan out and then the project and the person behind omega at the very least was relieved of that position. The one positive thing about that shitshow of an arc was the lead-up to its end (and probably final nail in the coffin), when everyone was waiting for new female gen, only for another holostars gen to be revealed "at popular demand", which even caused a whole lot normalfags to dip from neutral into
>what the fuck is this? who is this for?
and even them to finally tell beggars to fuck off, because they got tired of it.

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>>80544112
Nah. Too much bad associated with it now. Only thing they can do is keep it in a vault to never be used. Even a taking a piece of the original like say the eyes, people will eventually notice and start asking about omega again.

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>>80544652
If it's just gura the situation would truly be just a meh for her. The betrayed part though is something I'm not sure if she meant it literally or as a symbolism.

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>>80545034
Just dunk on him even harder if asked

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>>80544454
>CHOCO
I fucking hope that they do. CHOCO is renowned for loving his daughters and his designs are god tier. Give me Holo Melusine

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>>80544210
>was very close to Coco
newfag

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>>80544112
Have you seen omega fanarts? They can't fully replicate fuzichoco's design especially the hair part.

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>>80545077
What if the talent doesn't know anything about omega? What if the their senpais keep their mouths shut about it when said talent ask? They will be grasping at straws like us and at best will just lightly dunk on him to garner public favor.

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>>80543779
Gura seems to be doing a lot better with communicating

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>>80544617
>>80544660
She hasn't done anything though, tards

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>>80545193
Shiori has already heard about him despite coming way later and Kiara sure as hell wouldn't keep her mouth shut
Maybe a few months ago, I could see a newcomer being clueless, but after that stream, it will become public knowledge that he's no good

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>>80545231
YET.

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>>80545103
anon, you're referring to two different people
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=choco_%28chocolate_shop%29
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=fuzichoco+

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>>80545231
She interacted with an irrelevant retard after he made everyone seethe, that's enough for monkeys to keep clinging to the promise of two more weeks after wasting so much time waiting for her to do anything of note

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>>80545346
>Not mentioned them at all outside singing one of their songs
Chill out. Rage if it happens

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>>80545425
thats why I said YET.

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>>80545142
should get Usan to use the model

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>>80545193
>Rushia and Mel terminated because they leaked company info
>Coco and Aloe harassed into graduation because they didn't keep their mouths shut
Anon... you are not telling me 10 women are not gossiping behind the scenes to every new hire. You just can't.

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>>80545375
Why would she know about why people are seething over his member content. All she is is an outgoing hag who is terminally online in Hololive feeds and channels

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>>80545530
Same reason all other members are totally getting mad over his rant and suddenly want him gone after months of complete indifference.
Or so the narrative goes.

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>>80545499
Coco was always going to leave to do her own thing.

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>>80545298
>>80545499
All I'm saying is we know they still talk about omega behind the scenes now. But we can't be 100% that this and past events won't trigger a change to sweep omega's name under the rug and never to be talked about again on stream and off. Its not a far-fetched idea to want to keep hololive seen as a nice and clean company with no bad apples.

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>>80545530
>All she is is an outgoing hag who is terminally online in Hololive feeds and channels
This desu. Honestly to me it's like watching someone who quite a bit older than the new social group or work group that they find themselves in trying too hard to ingratiate themselves and be "down with the kids" on socials. Cringe but endearing.
Pic very related

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>>80545809
You should also remember that she was a brony once, her mannerisms from that time are likely still there

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>>80545879
She's just a early millennial who experienced the internet in its more innocent golden era of memes and is now trying to relate to late millennials and sooners and she does that by being positive and outgoing
Can't say her behaviour has felt anything other than a bit cringe

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>>80546030
*Zoomers

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>>80546030
I can't wait for her to try and use "skibidi" or some other retarded zoomer meme but it be completely out of context and embarrassment

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>>80543779
>You now remember there is a rrat about a mixed gender GTA server from a ''leak'' in /MANS/

[Anonymous No.]

Omega wasn't even a manager. He was a lore guy. He designed councils lore since vtuber lore was big at the time and cover wanted to capitalize on it.
Kiara was the most salty about omega and the lore focus because her lore is she owns a fast food restaurant while councils was being literally time etc. around the time she was major salty about it and complained a lot.
But council didnt want to play up the lore anyway and the big focus on it was meaningless to most viewers.
The point of the twitter account was to drop lore tidbits and things for the girls but when it was obvious people weren't interested in council lore past debut he got moved onto doing lore for Tempus.
Around then lore stuff had just fallen off completely and he was let go from the company.
He was a lore guy. Not a manager. He wasn't behind any homo shit or the leader of EN. He was just a lore guy and Kiara was major salty about him because she felt her lore wasn't as cool as the other girls.

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>>80546632
I never heard of that. How is that supposed to be anything to worry about? The only ones who would join something like that are the ones who would homocollab anyway.

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>>80543368
Dude, no one liked omega. Not the guys, not the girls. They all had negative things to say about the motherfucker, and the one thing that is constant is that Omega literally didn't do shit to help anyone. The management overhaul was beneficial for all of them.

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>>80546649

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>>80543779
Gura and Mori both doom posting about something NDA related is a bad sign. Ina was going to visit Japan for half a year so I am guessing that management has once again delayed something for Myth. Considering that Gura still hasn't released her 3rd year membership badge there have been something huge going on behind the scenes.

>>80544210
Myth wouldn't be this angry over Hololive shilling merch on bibibili. My guess is they expected something to be announced in summer that got delayed.

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OmeGONE is a great way to celebrate the death of that faggot. If only I knew where he was buried so that I might piss on his grave for what he did to IRyS.

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>>80547349
This is why Kiara is important for the other girls.

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>>80546632
I don’t listen to fags

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>>80542747
I hope we learn some day what the fuck happened if someone from Myth or Council graduates.
Whatever the fuck happened seems to have been a colossal shitshow.

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>>80542747
Always thought this was just gonna be the A chan of holo-EN.

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>>80548056
See >>80547467 management basically treated her as some vocaloid with no care leading to her throat being damaged. Adding to this is debuting a bunch of holostars when talents were thinking of graduating and trying to force interactions with each other nijisanji style by putting them all in one discord group.

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I seriously need to know what part of this design people think looks good. Do people just like a bunch of colors? It's the most generic designs imaginable I probably fought this nigga at the end of like 10 jrpgs

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>>80548550
As I’ve never liked him, I can’t answer that question. Everything about him was overdone and a waste of resources. Hell, even his design was utter hubris, what with having a chromatic triangle for a halo, as if he ever mattered to any part of Hololive at all.

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>>80548056

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>>80548723
In a perfect world, he'd be the EN A-chan and the triangle halo would beb fitting because breaking out into overseas market is a huge achievement and so would be helping the brand grow even further there.
But we don't like in a perfect world.

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>>80546649
im not in touch with the artist but omega's design looks like it costed a pretty penny. im nor sure how someone as unimportant like a "lore guy" could be given that much budget.

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>>80548962
a-chan, who is far more important to the company than most of the talents, is given a humble and relatable OL design. meanwhile this fag who writes the shittiest lore and got carried by Myth's success is given power to crown himself the god emperor of EN. his ego is too big, it rubs me off the wrong way.

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>>80549513
Yeah, but if he was competent, he'd at least be able to earn that over time even if it initially came off as arrogant. Hell, if everything aligned, that arrogance could have been used for lighthearted jokes and interactions.
But that design was used for a retard and not someone who had any hope of becoming a pillar of community.

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>>80546649
Nice try fag but we already know he was a producer. Fucker sabotaged IRyS too. According to Kiara he also wanted Myth to regularly stream FFXIV

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>>80549513
>his ego is too big, it rubs me off the wrong way.
He hired holostars that thinks the same way.
>You're feeding me my fantasy. this is next level.
> I can't help but feel like I'm the main character of this world.

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>>80550197
Has ANYONE streamed XIV?

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>>80550773
He was already gone by then

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>>80550776
IRyS and Biboo have played it once each. Fubuki and Iroha plays regularly.

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>>80548999
He was going to be part of the lore while giving a rolling update on it. You can see his character in some of the comics they came out with. That was the idea behind it.
>>80550197
>producer
Of the lore. Yes. The rrats about omega are crazy when they've already said what he was. Most of this schizo headcanon comes from one post where someone asked him what his pronouns were and he said he didn't care and suddenly he's the homo manager trying to get the girls to interact with holostars. Just crazy SEA schizo shit.
>he wanted myth
He never had any control on myth. He was the council lore guy. Kiara was pissed about her being a fried chicken chef and not getting cool lore. That's literally it. Crazy the stuff you SEA brownies will make up with almost no real information.

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That fact that literally everyone and I mean everyone that interacted with him had nothing, but bad things to say about him is telling. Like everyone fucking hated him. Every single person in myth talks about this guy like they hope he died in a ditch or something, so makes you wonder how shit he was and what he tried to pull behind the scenes

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>>80550197
>According to Kiara he also wanted Myth to regularly stream FFXIV

For what fucking purpose

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>>80551237
>Of the lore.
He's literally listed as as e producer for the of IRyS's songs. How the fuck is their someone defending this retard and blaming Kiara when everyone shit talked him and hated him

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>>80551237
>Kiara was pissed
Everyone on myth hated him and talked badly of him. Ame fucking hated him with a passion

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>>80551442
>Ame fucking hated him with a passion

Rrats? Wouldnt be surprised if she was pushed too homocollabing because of omega

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>>80551528
She always talked badly of him and with venom talking about him. I told tell she really disliked him, but she never really said why. She's not really as open just saying she hates him like chicken would. No idea what he did.

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>>80550776
Fubuki, Bijou, Pekora, Irys, Nene, Subaru, Iroha.

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>>80551996
Real problem is XIV is pretty much a JRPG you watch the story. Only the Jap wants to watch people play JRP's, the west doesn't. It might be a good game to play if you just to do a talking stream though

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>>80551265
NTA, but to be clear, the FFXIV push was very much real and most likely pushed by Ina and her faggot of a mod AO-chan. Not only do we have this leak from Minecraft chat here where he even mentions his self-insert mascot (wtf?) being made for it. But also Kiara talked about it. The idea was to have a regular Myth group adventure but they quickly realized this wasn't feasible (for timezone reasons at the very least) so it never came to fruition. I think there were multiple attempts to make it happen though because Kiara mentioned a lot of times how she bought the game like three seperate times because of intentions to play it within Holo.

However there's no real proof Omegatroon was behind that except for the fact that Omegatroon also is an FFXIVtranny. There is quite a bit of circumstantial evidence that he's AO-chan though, who IS proven to have pushed the FFXIV shit.

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>>80552346
That could have been fun if everyone was into it, but I can also see how it could go terribly wrong.

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>>80552445
I think we've had enough examples of progressive group collabs now to know that it absolutely would NOT have worked. Even one-time collabs like that recent Bijou/Kiara/Mori/Ina thing became boring as shit to watch REAL fast and reliant on zatsu.
Hell, even actually interesting/original things like the TTRPG quickly lost stream and viewership.

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>>80542747
>"man"-made
confirmed for male

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>>80551237
>Kiara was pissed about her being a fried chicken chef and not getting cool lore.
... who is a phoenix. Her lore is the same kind of "fantasy meets mundane" thing like most of Holo's other fantasy gimmicks, dragon/rabbit/devil/etc reverse isekaing to the real world. Heck, Mori's shtick is exactly the same; apprentice-Grim Reaper chilling in the real world to make music or whatever.

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>>80552643
Yeah the dozens of times the holos said "he" before awkwardly correcting themselves with "UHHH OR SHE OR WHATEVER" weren't proof enough...

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>>80552121
Cant say I fully agree with you on this. Back in the day I enjoyed the crap out of TFS Xenogears because it was a playthrough of a crazy 90s jRPG played by funny dudes who were obsessed with DBZ. Them constantly making DBZ jokes about a game that wasn't that far off when it comes to 90s vibes was just the right kind of blend for me. I was looking forward to their Hercule impressions when reading Rico's dialogue as soon as they would see him being referred to as champ. An unfinished Let's Play series to an equally unfinished game. God has a sense of humour.

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>>80552673
Honestly it was fine. The worst lore was still Coucils + Hope, which hyped all the members to be ancient gods representing complex concepts. Even Irys was designed by Redjuice to be a "creator god" of sorts. Its weird how Promise is a lot more relatable now, but the backgrpund lore is still chuuni as fuck. Coming to think of it even ERB's lore os chuuni, but barring her both Advent and Justice have been a return to relatability

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What I fucking hated the most about that faggot was the fact that he was so obviously an ESL brownskin, but tried sooo fucking hard to look like he wasn't with that utterly pretentious, faux-sophisticated way of typing. But he constantly made weird mistakes such as overusing punctuation.

Worst of all is the bullshit lore that Council had to deal with, all of which was absolutely incomprehensible, machine translated gibberish. And as if that wasn't enough they forced IRyS to read said gibberish out loud. Can you imagine how hard she must have cringed?
>ThE MaNiPuLaToR iS AcTiVe OnCe MoRe

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>>80552346
You almost made it, but you let the /pol/ brainworms get you at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80552997
ERB's lore is chuuni, but so is the character and, at the end of the day, it serves as contrast to the rest of her personality being goofy.

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>>80544600
CGDCT will always wins in the end, because we are the paying customers.
The Stars will never incline on their own, and the girls who promote them slowly start losing revenue. The more they support the homos the more they go down, so it's a zero sum game for them
We just need to continue supporting the good chubas and ignoring the bad ones.

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>>80547306
That's exactly what I said Anon, he was so bad that even the talents he was supposedly giving free reign and infinite studio time and paying for prostitutes or whatever rrats this shithole came up with, they hated him too. He fucked over everybody with shitty project planning.

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>>80552346
>This guy was cumblasting Ina everyday while takokeks were "WAH"ing
KEK

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>>80552852
Anon, you do not speak for the west

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>>80553626
It was even worse, he was constantly posting in her chat being a no-fun-allowed bitch

People just didn't have the insight about him that they do today so most people were okay with him and saw it as just "BTFOing annoying greynames" or whatever

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>>80544497
what on earth is this referring to, did i miss something

[Anonymous No.]

>>80553693
I think you responded to wrong post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80553870
I did because I was saying the wets does not want to watch long JRPG playthroughs and it's true.

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>>80542747
if this was a loli and it had cute bare feet instead of those ugly shoes this model would have unironically been gura killer-tier. shame they just wasted it for no reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>80553984
The view numbers on TFS Xenogears seem to tell a different story.

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>>80554230
Anon, how many fucking years ago was that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80554230
to be fair, not even the most cucked gachikoi is 1% as parasocial as TFSniggers are for those balding overweight losers

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>>80544670
I think it's just some retard in management huffing their own farts and getting high on it, and Kiara is using Omega to publicly say:
>hey fucktard, guess where getting full of yourself gets you: fucking fired
If I had to guess, it's the perms/rules guy (probably does both as part of his job, maybe a PR/HR manager) not doing his job and acting high and mighty when he's called out on it. It coincides with Gura feeling meh, Kronii's rant against him, Kiara pointing out dumb shit Cover forces them to do or doesn't do for them, and I could go on. Firing Omega was an important step for the health of HoloEN, and I think there's again someone ripe for kicking out of the company.

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>>80554594
10 years ago. Does it matter? No. Because the numbers on that english version of a jRPG are better then their recent uploads of not jRPGs.
>>80554512
Couldn't care less. The point is that westerners will watch a jRPG series if the let's play is entertaining. And I pointed out entertaining stuff in my first post.

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>>80554941
>>hey fucktard, guess where getting full of yourself gets you: fucking fired
Sounds more like shot at Jutard after his communications degree drama

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>>80554980
>10 years ago. Does it matter?
Very much so. The internet is very different and so are games and what people watch. You're living in the past and think everyone lives there with you for some reason.

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>>80542747
But what were they supposed to be and why were they cancelled? Also, why did they hate them? I know the rrats but is there anything more concrete that didn't get revealed in a dream?

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>>80555107
Why the fuck would she care? Only his own career is on the line and he has zero influence on anything. And that's assuming she even knows about the stream.
Meanwhile, there's management fuckery like perms bullshit and secondary characters like Frogiwawa being banned despite their popularity (including those that had merch sold for them), which directly affects her and her coworkers.

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Isn't "AO-chan" just alpha-omega?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80555501
Ok but people are still watching jRPGs in the west. Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance is a good example. Maybe the average watching number isn't high enough for your liking but it is not 0.

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>>80542747
Okay let's end the rrats once and for all
holoEN followed the ID model and management was a mix of Cover employees (who only spoke Jap) and randoms hired from places like Discord and the general english speaking fan community like translators (who spoke both english and japanese (in theory))
Letting random 20y olds who spend their days on Twitter and Discord run a branch might sound retarded, and in hindsight it was, but something similar happened with Id and that worked, no one expected Myth to blow up

Sadly i can't say more because my personal involvement ended before Council debut but if you're wondering how someone like Omega could gain so much power it's because he was a random that spoke english and some jap that was at the right place at the right time
Oh and both Kiara and Mori were basically management at the time since they could actually communicate with the Cover people in EN

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>>80556386
>it's because he was a random that spoke english and some jap that was at the right place at the right time
Are we sure it wasn't Elira

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>>80546649
if this is real, this is some WWE creative conflict shit right here.

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>>80556501
I think i actually talked to him directly, is there any way you can look trough old conversations on Discord after they are closed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80556005
Ancient ones

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>>80556653
If the server is gone, no
DMs are still available even if an account is gone and the same applies to servers if messages weren't set to be auomatically removed on ban

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>Omega digs the hole
>Years later Susei gets zenlossed
>Suisei's management blames Kiara and demanded Kiara fix it the next day
>Kiara never forget this and takes potshots at Omega ever since

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>>80544454
>proto-lui and proto-chloe
I would very much like to see these designs, link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80542747
She’s got Meltlyris vibes. I like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80543779
I've seen this one but where's Mori's one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80557198
That's, sadly, not a woman

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>>80556386
so what did omega do exactly?

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>>80545621
>or so the narrative goes
so bullshit, then?

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>>80557417
Yes.

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>>80557364
>stole Council's spotlight
>made Gura miserable
>made Sana graduate
>made Irys get a throat-ache
>made Ame miserable
>gave the homos a debut
>fused the EN and homos twitter
>encouraged homocollabing
>scoutes homos II
>postponed Advent

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>>80545621
Yes, but you're supposed to play along and be schizophrenic with us

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>>80557630
Oops, reply meant for
>>80557417

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>>80557364
If the person I'm thinking about was indeed Omega then some sort of assistant producer, he mostly acted as a liaison to somebody (no clue if it was EN management or Cover) but was able to approve some stuff on his own
I was a contractor so my interactions with HoloEN were limited, thank god because trying to get any info out of them was like getting blood from a stone

>If the server is gone, no
RIP

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>>80557524
I unironically believe that Omega probably dragged his feet on letting Myth meet up in Japan and caused the delay in 3D even as the restrictions were being lifted. Seems the Corona quarantine worshipper type.

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>>80556386
>HoloEN started out like NijiEN

Who would have thought. A fucking miracle they got their act together unlike Niji.

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>>80561291
The main difference is that the actual talents aren't ticking time bombs, not even Kiara

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>>80561416
Not just that. Cover seemed quick to institute proper management, as well as adapt to the international market. Each talen actually has three managers AT LEAST. Compare to Niji which had multiple livers share a manager. Its why the leaker's infor surprises me. I would not put it past Cover to take a similar cost cutting measure, but perhaps the explosive success of Myth got Yagoo to invest further on the EN side. (whereas Riku kept cutting costs)

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>>80557127

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>>80562055
Proto-Lui is better than what we got but I'm glad they ended up scrapping Proto-Chloe

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>>80562055
Lui's was an improvement. But proto chloe looks interesting.

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>>80551237
>Crazy the stuff you SEA brownies will make up with almost no real information.
Stop talking to a mirror

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>>80552346

Fuck Ina by the way, hope she gets the same treatment as Omegafag

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>>80563018
Not happening. People actually like her, including within Hololive

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>>80563193
I know, Which is a shame since I do feel she´s an issue behind scenes for the other girls. Anyway, at least they got rid of that dude.

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>>80544112
throw it into a holo manga as a villain that gets converted at the end with talk-no-jutsu
it already looks like a law type final boss

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>>80562491
>>80562528
>duality

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>>80562055
Jesus that proto-Lui looks absolutely awful. Fucking chink tier shit

proto-chloe is pretty decent if you want a "brat type" but that doesn't fit chloe at all

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>>80563401
>>80563018
>>80563193
I don't get it. Isn't Ina considered to be CGDCT? At least that was the impression I got from one of the images from the CGDCT crowd. That said, I would be interested in other rrats regarding Ina as a problem. I know that Ina's not really into dancing, which must have vexed Kiara a lot.

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>>80563794
proto-chloe looks like something that would've been given to laplus's voice actor

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>>80563838
All you want is rrats motherfucker, Jesus you niggas are insufferable. Just watch your oshis, who gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80563838
>T.dramafag

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>>80546030
Pretty much. Seems like she’s just trying to be nice and not aware that every single interaction she has will be analyzed by schizos here

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>>80555888
nice double trips

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>>80563838
She's CGDCT-adjacent. never collabed with a male besides one song cover with the homoshitters (which according to rrats was kind of pushed by management); but she also never openly had an anti-homocollab stance like the "CGDCT power rangers" do.

There's no rrats regarding Ina being a problem behind the scenes, in fact even the few yabs she had get utterly fucking memoryholed by EVERYONE. The only thing people shit on her for is the accusation that she nepo-hired the cunt that was Sana.
Also her being not into dancing is not true at all either, maybe in the first year or something. Kiara has talked multiple times how she's proud of how much Ina practices for concerts.

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Ina just wants to grill

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>>80542747
Have we ever heard his voice before? If not, what do you think it sounds like?

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>>80542747
>there's no returning
Technically they never used the avatar. Auditions can be put right now the the design

[Anonymous No.]

>"Somehow, Omegay returned."

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>>80566464
gayer than ever

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>>80558143
Japan's borders were literally closed until October 11, 2022. There was a process for businesses to apply for visas a couple months before that if they had a legitimate business need, but Japan doesn't really consider Youtubing as a real job so there was no way Myth would get visas. Still, that business exception came in to effect after the Holofes that Myth debuted in. So Cover either rented 3D studio space in America and Europe or they were skinwalked, which does mean that they could have done the same thing months earlier.
Myth could have met up earlier in America (which they eventually did), but they had this fantasy ideal of all meeting for the first time in Japan and were being dumb about the realities of their situation.

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>>80564877
In addition to the song, she did this stream with a Pixiv dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gd-92RdSt4 and later during that Drawfest event she joined some other artist dude's stream and talked with him while he drew. I think Ina doesn't really care about male collabs one way or the other, but she won't do them out of spite or to make a statement.

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>>80562055
That headdress on Proto-Lui is terrible. Design’s fine otherwise if you remove it, but I definitely prefer current Lui. Proto-Chloe is rather unremarkable, glad we got who we got.

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>>80562055
I've never been crazy about the ojou sama drill tails, glad we got modern Chloe. Proto lui is just too busy, yikes.

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>>80542747
Whats with the meme about this being a good design
This is noisy garbage that nobody wants to draw fanart of

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>>80566526
Who the fuck is this and why do have you started spamming her

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>>80551249
He's responsible for the worst era in EN history. Things were so bad for a while it seemed like NijiEN is actually winning.

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>HoloEN has a cancerous manager who was killing the branch
>get rid of him
Meanwhile NijiEN

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>>80572222
Quads of truth

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>>80544112
>wonder if it's still possible to salvage the design
please keep in mind the design reminds the myth/council girls of bad times. The design would need a recoloring and slight outfit modifications. Probably big tits too

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>>80553089
how would IRyS cringe? I assure you she didn't even know what half of those words meant. So to her, yes, she was reading gibberish lol

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>>80544652
>I seriously doubt Gura even knows what that pagpag eater said, let alone let it affect her in any way
This. Gura has been getting attacked since debut, and a homo bitching in a members wouldn't even fall under her radar.

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>>80548999
once bought a quick sketch commission from fuzichoco in a private setting
the terms were strict
no revisions, no resale, no commercial use, and no public display
in comparison to what i paid, a character design like omega with extended revisions and commercial use (2x multiplier or more) would be high four digits, maybe more

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>>80542747
I think one of the things that ended him was him secretly joining the Hololive girls' Rust server. He even purposefully logged on while Gura was streaming, gave her items, and then ran away. He didn't do this to the other girls.
Clearly, it was him trying to interact with Gura on screen because of her not wanting to collab with males. It was probably some kind of weird, petty symbolic thing because he saw it as a way to force her to play with a male in front of her fans. She acted really uncomfortable during their entire brief interaction.
Looking back on it now, I think it was some kind of intentional slight towards Gura or a way for him to try and power harass her.
He basically left shortly after that.

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>>80578239
I have a vague memory of someone giving Gura items and no one knowing who it was, and there being tons of speculation over it. I guess I figured it would eventually become clear who it was as more people streamed the game and their character names were revealed. Did that mystery person never show up again, leading to speculation it was Omega? We know from the Minecraft screenshot leak that he wanted to play with the girls, and he even got his chance in the L4D collab.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNAoA6uEk-k

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>>80542747
My rrat is Omega was also pushing DEI. Trans and rainbow colors.
Cover is now going back to pushing it for the Western audience (the use of that palette is no coincidence), against the warnings from the girls.

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>>80570051
That stream was for Pixiv, the largest japanese art website in the world. The guy talking is a pixiv company representative interviewing her for a promotional collab with hololive, not another artist or streamer.
And the artist streamer you're talking about whose chat she joined is Kuroboshi, which is literally her designer papa, you dumbass.

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>80% of EN weren't streaming because of Omega's fuckery
>Luxiem was in full force
dark days

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>>80578900
Gura encountered two mystery people while playing.
The first later turned out to be AZKi, who was secretly a huge fan of Rust, but at the time, she was still apprehensive and nervous about playing games with the other girls. The second one was hololive staff and was identified as omega by Gura.

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>>80581108
AZKi cute and based
Omega ugly and cringe

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>>80581037
I remember a rrat thst Omega had gone to NijiEN after fucking off from Holo. I hope it's true, because now he'll be suffering all over again.

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>>80551265
>>80552346
FFXIV is the vtuber grooming game in EN
elira and all her male vtuber friend cliques play and groom other small vtubers unless you have autism and solo

[Anonymous No.]

>>80542747
?

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>>80552346
Can you shut the fuck up with the tranny shit, at least people using fag was kinda humorous at times. nu-4chan is fucking insuferable.

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>>80585515
Being sensitive about words around here is not advisable.
Now I will proceed to call you a tranny since it seems that it hurts you.

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>>80555888
I hope they do something about the en perms fag and whoever else is still causing problems

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>>80542747
I didn't watch this collab but is there any context behind this? Did Kiara really just decide to bring up Omega unprompted and shit on him? If so that says a lot about him.

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>>80586152
NTA but you're being retarded and proving his point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80586000
This fucker probably viewed himself as the weeb version of The Bard. I hate having to deal with his type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80562055
are there any other old designs for the holomems out there

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>>80588515
This exists

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>>80588712
im guessing this ended up being ayame's design in the end?

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>>80588712
I've NEVER seen these designs before. What are they for?

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>>80556820
this is a good rrat.

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>>80588515
technically what happened to Lui and Chloe aren't really "old designs" but completed design that were canceled for some reason, both artist did incorporate some elements from the old designs though like Kakage using bird stuff and Parsley using the color themes

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>>80588515
There’s some old audition ads with concept art of the early holos in 5em. Aki use to have a hat

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Bae also said she's having a really bad time lately.

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>>80594883
sounds like management is being dumb again. I wonder what half thought out idea they'll try to implement this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>80595177
B2

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>>80545670
no, after the china thing she kept hinting "the big thing" which she dragged even 1 year into kson and it was nothing all along

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>>80588515

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>>80595335
based purely on my paranoia I don't think the return to bugland is the only thing going on

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>>80542747
What a waste of a nice design like that.

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so is ina and omega connected in anyway? Because holy shit ina has the worst connections i've ever fucking seen and she needs to open her fucking eyes on who to bring to the team. First it was omega and then sana?

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>>80552346
Its incredible how you catalog retards still have not understood who AO-chan is/was.
ITS very likely SANA YOU FAGGOT.
Also there is no evidence (at all) that AO-chan is Omega, aside from the names initials matching? Like, if you had watched any stream you would know that AO = "Ancient Ones" aka its the book. Ina has never talked about "Omega" on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

God damn it what a waste of a kino design

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>>80599482
Sana wouldn't have a "holoEN" account shown in the image talking about AO. It is a staff member playing on the EN server. I don't believe Sana was staff before she was talent, or she wouldn't have been so unprepared for what streaming entailed.
Also technically Ina did dismissively mention Omega very briefly, during her year of hell https://youtu.be/9YKeuvVZIwY?t=3627

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>>80556386
>flattering Kiara
Omega might not be perfect but by putting a lot of stock in Kiara you're just destroying your creditability at this point
reminder:
-Council and Project HOPE were god-tier talents whilst Advent and Justice are hot garbage
-yes he established the homoEN branch but the first four talents were very professional about their job and position, now compare them to those subhuman fujo baits who think it's a good idea to start a culture war within holoEN
-he valued branch unity higher than gen unity which was based, just look at those forced interactions/streams between Advent members
-a lot of good stuff came from his era and they were not soulless
-holopro twitter handler (subhuman fujo) came into power after he's gone

You are just being fooled by Kiara nothing more. First you should do reps about what kind of person Kiara is, then form your opinions

[Anonymous No.]

looks like Kiara is sexually frustrated lmao
don't worry, i'll give her some love tonight or tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>80600725
>t. Omega

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>>80600725
lol what even

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>>80600123
HoloENs start was a major shitfest. EN had basicly no management, no chat mods (Ina was afraid people would dox her in chat instantly, hence the AO-chan account as a mod). If I had to guess, stadf either made an account and gave the talents (who were very loosesly managed) access or Ina/Sana made the HoloEN account. All professionally done staff accounts (seen in the HoloX event recently) just have Staff#... As a name if I recall correctly. I don't believe Sana was staff, but during ENs early chaos a lot of "staff' work was done either by the talents of their associates.
Point is, Ina has nothing to do with Omega and this catalog rrat is retarded. Espacially since her (slightly) dismissive comment was one of the first "negative views on Omega (she explicitly excludes Omega as a member, which at the time was not clear since no one knew what he/she was).

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>>80600725
Your bait would've been better without the first bullet point, it immediately gave your hand away.
3/10 see me after class

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>>80588712
This was never a design for a member, this was design for a side character in the Hololive Alternative setting.

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>>80547433
>Considering that Gura still hasn't released her 3rd year membership badge there have been something huge going on behind the scenes.
Ah yeah, famously professional and attentive to her channel, Gura. There's just no other explanation possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80579791
Ragyo was woke this whole time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80575497
it's MEH

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>>80596820
Projects getting stalled, hiring a designated homo shiller reigniting segregation drama again just as things are cooling down, Kronii being ghosted by management, dodgers collab not as enthusiastically received by other members, jurard meltdown, ReGloss being criticized for "underperforming". There's alot of things going on bts

[Anonymous No.]

>>80607812
>just as things are cooling down
>1 year after Advent's debut and Vesper and Magni graduated, and Bae was the only HoloEN to collab with StarsEN since then

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>>80555888
>secondary characters like Frogiwawa being banned
Since when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80607812
>dodgers collab not as enthusiastically received by other members

Really? Most of them seem happy about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80588515
There's proto-Mio (forma de Uno) but I don't have it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80548550
white hair, small breasts and emotionless expression makes my peepee happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80608407
>Really? Most of them seem happy about it
I think anon may be referring to Cover once again underestimating their Western fans. The fact that a ton of people stood in line for hours specifically for Holo merch then had to get told to fuck off by police probably feels bad for the Holos because they know it didn't have to be that way and they know Cover is being stubborn as fuck about treating EN events properly.

Sure everyone is excited about the upcoming concert but it's also laced with a lingering feeling of "But why did they go smaller? Why do they still not get it?"

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>>80605375
A few Myth talents delayed their membership badges for vague reasons but it does seem fishy how Gura has been delaying her badge for over 10 months. With the recent doom posting there is a good chance it will be delayed over a year which is unusual even for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80608712
The peril of a Japanese company still seeing itself as Japanese.

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>>80608995
Fwiw Miko said she won't be making a 5th year's membership badge this year, if ever, and it's possible other Holomems will be doing the same, so it's not just Myth.

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>>80608995
>>80609677
Is there something I'm missing about badges? Is there some kind of autism behind getting them approved that I'm unaware of?