/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

If Kiara doesn't have feelings for Calli, then why is she crying?

[Anonymous No.]

Women are just emotional. They cry at weddings, they cry at funerals, just no rhyme or reason to it.

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Joy

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>>802945
I cried when my friends moved away.

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>>803104
that's gay dude

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>>802945
She obviously does like Cali though, maybe not as a lover, as a friend. She's leaving, knowing full well that her visa maybe never renewed (it was a special one year visa that cannot be renewed called a work holiday visa or something) and she may never return to Japan. That's a rough thing to deal with for anyone and she's not the most stoic person to begin with.

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>>803104
LONDON
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>>802945
You're just emotionally stunted and never had a good friend before that you will miss seeing in person for a long time.

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>>803169
Honestly I'm finding more and more people in the world who actually think like this, that any amount of showing your emotions is deviant or wrong and it's worrying the shit out of me. The only feeling they feel they can show is anger.

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I thought antis often accuse Mori as the one not having any feelings for Kiara, not the other way arround. Either way it's obvious that they are close friends regardless.

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>>803231
Funny, it is the other way for me, like the only emotion I am not allowed to show is anger..

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>>803231
That's gay.

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>>803276
Do you work in a physical labor job? Maybe that's the difference.

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>>803231
I don't think that it's "wrong", per se, I think that it's unhelpful.
To use this example, your friend is moving away and so you cry. What benefit have you brought about by crying? Has it convinced your friend not to move? Has it introduced new information that allows you to view the situation in a positive light? Has it allowed you more time to spend with them? Of course not, it's directionless emotional excretion. I would display sadness, anxiety, happiness, any emotion if it contributed to improving my life materially, but they don't, ergo it's a waste of energy.

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>>803186
Can't cover sponsor a visa for her?

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>>803852
emotions don't tend to be rational

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>>803852
Emotional crying releases hormones that cause stress from your body. Stress has pretty much unlimited ways of causing harm to your bodily functions.

So crying is just straight up good for your body.

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>>803629
not him but yes

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>>803852
Anon, I think you have autism.

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>>803852
Hmm yes I do believe the liquid that comes about from shedding tears do in fact irrigate the Earth's soil so perhaps there is a highly efficient benefit!

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>>803852
How about it indicates to your friend that you care about him?

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>>803169
>>803231
Bottling up anger and then releasing it in indiscriminate rage is the only useful emotion.

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>>804055
You'd think, but there's some reason to believe that Cali kept her reaping job as long as she did so her visa would get renewed.

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>>802945
for the content

[Anonymous No.]

>It is a "you are the real freak for not crying about this" episode..

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>>804327
This is an actual incel mindset.

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>>804327

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>>804392
Yes

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>muh takamori only is a work relationship
kek

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>>804496
Seems like the attitude of a confident adult who feels secure about themselves

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>>804529
What

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>>804129
this is a pretty amazing reply, it wont do all these r9k reject fuccbois any good but ...

[Anonymous No.]

Crying in response to something that makes you happy or sad is normal and healthy. Don’t shy away from shedding tears if you feel the need to release. Excessive crying is something you should chat about with your doctor, however. If crying starts to interfere with your everyday activities, it may be a sign of depression.

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>>804055
Streaming isn't considered an actual job for visa purposes in Japan.
I think Calli releasing her album allowed her to transition her work visa from teaching to music.

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>>802945
I do think that they are genuine friends but I honestly believe that a big reason Kiara cried was because the song was very emotional for her. The situation of her leaving a friend just added to that.

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>>804972
how do all those youtubers stay there?

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>>804972
Couldn't Kiara do the same? Even if she doesn't have an album, she has multiple songs out.

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>>803065
>cry at funerals
hey now if this is for someone close to you that understandable, but for like stranger or people you barely know yeah it's really fucking weird

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>>804055
Depends, but it may actually be a lot harder than it seems. Kiara is from Austria. Austria and Japan have a different diplomatic relationship than other countries, even other ones from the European Union. Austrians are allowed one year of working holiday visa. This year is limited to one year with no extensions, and is limited to once per lifetime. This is the only way an Austrian can come and live in Japan without having a real job lined up. This is the visa Kiara had. She was coming to be a translator for the 2020 Olympics. It got canceled because of covid. Kiara was trapped in Japan wasting her once in a lifetime visa during covid with nothing to do. Hololive saved her.

The only reason Kiara was able to live in Japan for years when she was a teen was because she was an idol and was employed, probably allowing her an entertainment visa. When her contract ran out she had to leave. So now it comes to the real question: can cover sponsor vtubers for a visa? Probably not but its hard to say. The Japanese government is pretty strict about these. The kicker is justifying how your job requires you to live in Japan. A streamer does not have to live in Japan to do their job. They can just visit. So long duration visas are probably not possible without some creative legal ideas.

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>>803065
Hank cried when his car didn't start

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>>805183
gook immigration is p autistic, so no way

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>>803065
imagine not crying at a funeral

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>>803852
>To use this example, your friend is moving away and so you cry. What benefit have you brought about by crying?
are you retarded? its not a choice you soulless imbecile. thats like saying " lol dude someone hacked off your arm wtf are you crying for? youre just wasting water and energy you idiot" yeah not shit.

humans cry when inflicted with pain. its a signal to others so that they know you need help. there is physical and mental pain. if a fereiend you really like leaves you for ever then its not a choice that you cry. its literally pain.

but of course autistic introverts like you will never understand that.

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>>805281
>So now it comes to the real question: can cover sponsor vtubers for a visa?
no because its not needed. they can work from everywhere. gov wont allow visa for something that you can do on the otherside of the world.

it would be different if she had weekly jpop dancing concerts or something like that.

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>>805442
Y-yeah.. H-haha, imagine not being able to show adequate signals..

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>>802945
Kiara is just an emotional person. She has a breakdown on the regular. It's why her members are so psychotic supportive of her. Not saying Mori isn't a good friend to her, but there's probably other factors too, like leaving without supposedly accomplishing all of her goals.

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>>805444
>tfw autistic introvert and cry more than most people I know
>already had a shrink conclude I'm not suffering from clinical depression
brains, they refuse to be consistent.


maybe it's the nigh-perpetual anxiety-driven stress though.

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>>805183
She still has to go back home due to the conditions of the Work-Tourism visa and then reapply. Also would need to get those songs published on iTunes & such.

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>>804055
That isn't the issue anon, just a circumstance, She feels homesick, hasn't seen the family for almost a year, japan isn't the most welcoming place for her. Who knows how many more factors one could pile up on her situation, she has to leave but there a few things she doesn't want to leave behind.
As our boy would say "it's complicated"

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>>804327
>Live in profound misery unable to be happy because you should not express emotions
>be called gay by random anons on the internet
gee i wonder which one should i pick?

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>>806599
>Has to express emotions to feel them
Never gonna make it...

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>>806674
Yeah i get what you are saying, but that's not what that post was impliying.

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>>805113
They have other jobs

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine learning a language to live in a place you get deported from lmao

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>>803231
Don't worry dude, it's just people who got the absolute shit beaten out of them growing up so they think 'feelings bad' rather than understanding that expressing your emotions is healthy as long as you aren't doing stupid shit with them. Crying out of sadness is fine.

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>>802945
She does have feelings for her. Story i heard is couple of months ago during a new years party (same party where gura sleep with the guy that was engaged to be married, but that's another story) she got drunk and started fliriting with Cali. Calis not a lesbian and was very uncomfortable by the whole thing, she rejected her very firmly, like the whole flirting thing is a show for yuri fans, only for the streams, cause that's how idol industry rolls but it's not real and Cali has already told Kiara to stop before. Kiara started crying and left the party. People say she went home to cry and stuff but that's not true at all, what really happened is much weirder. You see Kiara had really fallen for Cali, like hard, so that night she thought Cali was really gonna start loving her back (idk why she thought that, Cali is not a lesbian, but Kiara gonna Kiara), so in the face of ejection and alcohol, she went online and found an found an escort that looks exactly like Cali, like a doopleganger, she hired her and when she got there to the hotel to meet her it was like she was a twin. Kiara started crying in front of her and the escort just lead her inside the room, escorts are used to seeing people get emotional i guess. Escort tried consoling her and Kiara just hugged her and just said "please let me go down on you", and the escort, well she's an escort so she said yes. Kiara spend like three hours eating her out then crying, making out with her and then crying, being eaten by her and then crying. Kiara called the escort Cali while the whole thing was happening, just insisted on using that name.

Anyway afterwards she keep hiring the escort, anytime they had a collab stream, she would hire the escort afterwards. They went out to eat with Cali , she hired the escort afterwards. It became a pattern and to the few people that knew it was clear that it was pure coping. Anyway this pattern started making the escort uncomfortable, because Kiara was getting too attached, in a way weird way, again she just keep calling her Cali, so it was like she was using the escort to form some weird replacement relationship with Cali. So after their last session , escort sat her down and finally told Kiara she can't keep seeing her, she isn't interested in women beyond her job even, she also has a bf, etc, etc. Kiara freaked the fuck out, started crying, started throwing shit around, screaming "You can't do this to me Cali, i love you", escort tried to get her stuff and started leaving and Kiara got even worse, got on the ground "Please Cali don't leave me please, i will change, i love you so much, please", you know stuff like that. Again remember, while this whole thing is happening she is still referring to the escort as "Cali" , like she's 100% obsessed. Kiara tries to block the door, stop the escort from leaving. Escort takes out her phone, makes quick call and not even 2 minutes later someone is knocking the door, the escort opens it and in walks in her a shady ass looking guy, like a Kabuchiko type, you know what i mean. Guy grabs Kiara tells her to quit her shit and shut up and Kiara calms down or more like gets freaked out. They both walk out, she starts crying again and drinking and never sees the escort again, and that's more or less the end of that. Cali doesn't any of this, but some of the people that do know about this are glad that she is leaving because they think it will be good for her long term, she is top obssesed with Kiara to the point that of crazyness. Anyway now she is leaving so she should calm down and move on, maybe, hopefully, who knows.

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>>803231
Maybe if you were less of a fag people wouldn't make fun of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>803852
You unironically have autism

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>>807296
what the fuck

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>>807296
What level of rrat is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>807460
Type 3. It is time to call the rratcatcher

[Anonymous No.]

>>807460
His pitch for HoloAlter

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>>803852
it can be a means of cartharsis, a good cry can leave you feeling better instead of bottling it up.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck it's like 8/10 threads are /r9k/ trash threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>802945

it's all an act and you're falling for it

[Anonymous No.]

Didnt she do porn?
You're believing that someone who did porn cant fake a cry for more views?
Ouch

[Anonymous No.]

>>807726
youre that one retarded "friend" who always makes fun of his buddies because they watch and enjoy wrestling

[Anonymous No.]

>>807805
not really. she did a few lewd privat streams and one photoshoot ( lewd but still clothed )

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>>807841
>Oh its not prostitution, its sex work
She really attracts the most awful SJW fanbase doesn't she?
You dont belong here, you know that right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>807807
you're going into fight or flight mode over an internet comment

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>>807228
Japs were telling her to die. I say based japs for once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>807904
Do you expect better from the population of this site?

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>>804522
autists like that will never know what it is like to cry into the shoulder of a friend or talk through a crying friend's hair as you comfort them. they will never know.
i pity them

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>>807807
I can guarantee wrestling fans because of kayfabe experience dislike her more.
Not many wrestling fans like her, you're slipping because you're woefully out of place here, tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>807981
certainly not from kiara fans, that's for sure

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>>808002
based

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>>807296
lmao 6D rrat

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>>808002
Oh we get it that's why we can spot fake crying for views and genuine ones.
You, on the other hand are defending a pornstar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>808108
post the porn

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>>808120
>post v&able material
cute tactic with your mods on the line, you and I both know about it. That's enough to break you.

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>>807296
Dude. You really need to take your meds cus HOLY FUCK that's like 7d rrating here.

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>>808165
ok anon, whatever you say

[Anonymous No.]

>>808214
no problem. Next time dont get into positions where you end up defending a pornstar. Not a good luck for men.

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>>807900
since shes not fucking other people yes, shes not selling her pussy. plus its trannies and SJW hate that kiara, not the otherway around
also:

>>807900
>>807904
>>807981
>>808018
>>808040
>>808108

samefag

https://files.catbox.moe/3qbh6t.png

https://files.catbox.moe/l1yt5s.png

always the same guy. same comments, same IP, every day all day. pathetic indog

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>>808296
>its trannies and SJWs that hate her
Lol

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>>805442
men don't cry at funerals, unless a lot of time has passed in between.

Women have faster catharsis when reacting to the shock event of loss.
Tell a woman her mother died, and she'll collapse to the floor and start crying like a wounded animal giving birth.
Kids too.

Men often process the shock event much slower. They take longer to process, and will rationalise, refuse. Men last longest in the Denial phase.

After its settled in, they finally have catharsis.

My dad became a robot when grandad died, and just sorted shit out. He said one night 2 months later, he cried for the whole night, and only afterwards he accepted the loss.

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>>808082
>>808199
What's the final D?

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>>808353
ye she pissed off lots of cgl trannies back in the day. they are mad cause they will never be a women and they seethe at her success

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>>808462
Yeah, the lgbt trend with takamori and her anti-white, BLM posts surely makes her a target for SJWs you're right.
You stick out like a sore thumb damage controlling for a pornstar. Hilarious

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>>808505
proof?
oh you dont have? ok

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>>808462
Wait a minute, oh shit, oh shit. I remember now, they use to have threads on her yes. They used to make fun of her. Damn and now she is part of Hololive max dabbing on the /cgl/lls.

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>>808525
No amount of baiting by you and your tranny jannies lurking this thread will work, tranny.
You're not mentally equipped to converse on 4ch.

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>>808505
/cgl/ is a unique beast, you clearly haven't been around too long

[Anonymous No.]

>>808558
riiiiiight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>808568
>makes claim
>has no proof

understandable
good talk

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>>807296
>founding someone who looks like cali in Japan
>it also work as escort.
Dude...

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>>808573
I'm knowledgeable enough on trannies and their ideology along with lgbt and they're ability to deflect and project.
You're not fooling anyone here.

[Anonymous No.]

No no no, kiara wasn't deported. She just misses her cats and wants to go home. Staying with calli or meeting pekora for real? No her fucking cats are hungry.

lol

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>>808381
iykyk

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>>808621
? her visa ran out she literally said so. in order to renew it she must go home first and reapply anyway. plus yes, she wanted to go home and calm the fuck down for a while

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>>808601
It makes you mad, doesnt it. We found out your discord raids propping up takamori here along with v&ing people who hate it co-ordinating with jannies.

You're not going get that from me or people who know about discord tranny raids. You need to bait harder, tranny

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>>802945
what about the fact that she's leaving japan which has essentially been her home for years now?

[Anonymous No.]

Calli had too many onion rings and her breath overwhelmed Kiara's eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>808671
i dont use discord

also still no proof
you never post proof. i ask you every day and you never post it.

really pathetic

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>>808585
Cgl regularly has threads making fun of people in the cosplay community.

>>808620
>>808462
cgl isn't trannies fyi, it's actual women, some are pretty hot even. Trannies hang out in /lgbt/

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>>808685
she has to go home because her "visa ran out", even though cover got mori a visa without any issues

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>>808714
it doesnt change the fact that she managed to piss off lots and lots of cgl sjws and trannies back in the day on her roommate

when they found out that shes kiara they seethe even more. but nowdays its just mostly one guy. that samefag indog who spams his bullshit everyday. i hope he dies soon because hes not fun to play around with anymore. he never posts proof and his arguments and claims are retarded low tier rrat level. simply a boring person.

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>>808735
Let them beleeb it.
She's just too controversial and unlikable. Not to mention her forcing takamori because without takamori, Mori still has everything going for her whereas this talent-less pornstar will go underwater quick without latching onto Mori.

Takamori unironically saved her.

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>>808735
they didnt lol. moris visa simply didnt run out yet since the last time she reapllied.

cover cant give a work visa currently because streaming can be done from anywhere in the world

but that doesnt matter. because even if they could, you NEED to go home first to reapply

[Anonymous No.]

>>803231
yeah man, I feel what you're feeling man. I feel you.

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>>803852
I disagree with the other replies. You're not an autist, you're a sociopath.

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>>807296
wtf dude

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>>808296
>https://files.catbox.moe/3qbh6t.png
wow, it really was them all along huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>808999
I can't believe it took 4 hours for the obligatory sociopath accusation.

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>>808999
>>809054

there is an easy self test. do you yawn when you see other people yawn? if not then you lack empathy.

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>>808505
>anti-white, BLM posts
People believe this dumb narrative? Saying cops maybe shouldn't be able to kill people in the streets is not anti white.

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>>809244
she didnt even say anything like that. there isnt a single BLM post of her. she doesnt give a fuck about politics. SJWs always try to push their agenda. she doesnt

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>>808735
They didn't get Mori a Visa, Mori got herself a visa by working as an English teacher for a few years just like Chris Broad and every other non-native who doesn't have any family there.

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>>808793
>I hope this boogeyman dies
Take your meds then, faggot, that'll kill him within days, and then you'll realise that most people still think Kiara's an unlikeable cunt.

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>>808793
Oh and not to mention, all the "proof" you're after requires doxxposting and we all knoe that the moment the proof get's posted you'd report that shit, you ain't slick, faggot.

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>>802945
I have a "double standard for Hololive

Basically I believe every single interaction is genuine and real

But also that it could be a massive act, like 100% fake, everything, to the core, even the roommate confirmations

That way, I watch everything guilt free as I consider it an act, like theather of live action shows.

It is entertainment, always be doubtful.

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>>809755
guys i have porn of ollie roommate. shes fucking niggers while self hating on her own people. saying that indogs cant pleasure her

i have tons of footage.
but saldy i cant post any proof because rules.
you just have to take my word for it bros. but its 100% true trust me

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>>809839
>That way, I watch everything guilt free as I consider it an act, like theather of live action shows.

I like to think Hololive is a sitcom happening in real time about the idols' lives outside of the stage. Once in a while we get these big events such a Bloom where we see the idols being idols, but most of the time is the girls being "out of character", talking about their daily lives and their daily shenanigans with their holofriends.

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>>809839
its a mix of booth. its neither 10% real not fake.

whats real is that kiara is 100% a friend of mori IRL. are they lesbians? no prob not but we dont know. but it doesnt matter

you newfrens think about this too much. just enjoy the show.

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>>802945
I mean, assuming that it must be because Kiara has romantic feelings just because of this is kinda silly.

She's being forced to leave Japan, which say what you will about her (roommate's) past exploits, was clearly an important thing to her, enough for her to drop everything and chase her dreams. Now, only months after basically getting as high as she could have in her climb for her dreams (joining a real idol group), she has to leave it all behind, or at least the parts of it that are more personal (i.e. off-collabs with other women who have the same crazy dream).
While it seems kinda tongue in cheek, fp >>803065 did kinda nail it. Women enjoy interpersonal bonding with friends more than men do. Losing that ability, or at least the ability to be close physically, is more painful for them than it probably would be for most normal males. Chicks hang out and bond more than adult men do, or rather they can do so without any particular rhyme or reason (compare to getting a beer with your bros after work, or having them over to watch a sports ball game or grill out or something).

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>>802945
Leaving the country you grew attached to is pretty hard and sad anon

t. Mormon missionary

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>>809978
I get this occasional FOMO feeling about their discord servers. That is, not even some creeper who wants to send dick pics or something, but how they are just bro-ing (sis-ing?) out, sending each other stupid memes, having retarded conversations about stupid shit in the middle of the night, etc.
I know it's weird but yeah.

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>>810347
>mfw I will never send my vtuber friend a funny "compilation of [x] making weird noises" and go "Have you seen this? Why are these sounds coming out of you?"

[Anonymous No.]

KFP fags actually trying to find a reason for this Yuri shit to be real.

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>>809278
The only SJW sounding tweet she made, to my knowledge, was something like "Racism still exists even if you don't experience it" or something like that. And knowing Kiara, it was probably about old Japanese man giving her dirty looks in Japan, nothing to do with BLM.

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>>810489
I'm p sure most of these people get their ideas of how women are from TV and anime. Women cry when they have to physically leave their friends. They aren't as likely to shrug their shoulders and go "ah, well, I'll VC you on discord or something, later bro"

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>>807296
Where can i find a Calli escort??

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>>810347
Kind of off topic but id you guys ever play The Silver Case, one the main plots it's a guy dealing with live streaming idols and how people use it as a friend replacement. Shit was written in 1997 by Goichi Suda, really ahead of it's time that game by like 20 years.

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>>810568
i know of that post and yes indeed, it was right after she got treated like shit because the reported her producer to the cops for sexually harassing her ( a 15 year old girl ) but they didnt do anything.

i dont consider this SJW.
and as you said, never saw BLM post.

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>>809229
ive never heard of this, and not doubting, but do you have any sources on this? sounds interesting

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>>813024
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-online-secrets/201508/why-psychopaths-are-immune-contagious-yawning

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>>807296
>18
Jfc When is the book coming out

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>>807351
Don't be so emotional, anon.

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>>803852
If something is funny you just laugh, you don't think "ok I will laugh now". It's the same with crying. If you feel the emotion strong enough your body will do it on its own.

[Anonymous No.]

Only gay faggot niggers cry.
Real chads deal with their pent up stress by getting irrationally angry at one point and wreak havoc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>803065
Fpbp

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>>802945
Shit like the japanese girls (Kanata's letter to Coco, Okayu and Korone's anniversary letters to each other) makes me cry and I don't even understand japanese on any level above basics
This gave me the vibe of watching an reality TV show lesbian drama. It just feels like there's a man behind the camera calling the shots for each move, I don't feel like I'm watching two people with genuine love for one another, to me it smells like desperation.

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>>807805
>Actually believing his own hallucinations
>>808505
>unironical /pol/fag
>>808714
>cgl isn't trannies fyi, it's actual women, some are pretty hot even.
>he doesn't know
>>808671
>persecutory delusions
Holy shit this faggot is the whole package isn't it?
Did this one scape from a mental institution?
I think we have a literal case of schizophrenia in our hands guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>802945
I don't know if anything can top this bros... I feel like shit
She loved her

[Anonymous No.]

>>807296
too long didn't rrat

[Anonymous No.]

Ok so most of us thought that the mic was muffled due to a hug.
However, does that really make sense? It would imply that they are wearing clipped mics but obviously they are using a mic in front of them.

So what muffled the mic?

[Anonymous No.]

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>>822390
Real chads just move on with their lives knowing it is pointless to dwell.

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>>803852
Beep boop to you, fellow robot.

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>>803231
it's literally what's called toxic masculinity. well part of it anyway. unbelievably shitty when women perpetuate it too

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>>807296
you should write an adult novel or yuri manga, at least you'll make money

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>>804266
Based irrigating sheep.

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>>807296
They should make a movie about this.

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>>803852
No meds could suppress this autism.

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>>807296

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>>826921
Calli's fat brap factory

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>>807296
Longest rrat that I actually read.
WTF, someone could draw fanfic mango base on this.

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>>831307
meh that would be a pretty shitty fanfic. super repetitive and no development whatsoever.
at least make it so that Kiara slowly becomes that obsessive rather than just make her 100% crazy bitch from the very beginning.

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>>803852
THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF AUTISTS LMAO

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>>802945
If she's an idol-animu-streamer she can do it just for a perfomance. I don't think that she's deeply in love, it's more just an acting, but just the whole thing with the last stream could make her cry. I myself can just suddenly drop a tear when I'm drunk and I remember some stupid sad moment.

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>>804972
then how does those 3(and their girlfrinds or wife) faggots stay their?

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>>803852
>

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>>831664
I also don't think that she's deeply in love but why would you have to act if you sang an emotional song during an event where you say goodbye to a friend?

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>>803852
>To use this example, your friend is moving away and so you cry. What benefit have you brought about by crying?
whoa

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>>803231
I only cry when not sober because people are less judmental whe you are drunk/high

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>>805281
>>805505
So does all this visa shit basically prove that the hololive girls are all contracted agents and not actual employees of cover? If they were employees there would be no issue with getting a work visa

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>>804055
>Can't Cover
No, they fucking can't, they never do

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>>832950
The Japanese government would just go "Why does she need to be in Japan to be a vtuber?"

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>>803852
Try to fucking bring up utilitarism on /lit/ or /his/ and see what happens faggot.

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>>832950
>If they were employees there would be no issue with getting a work visa
They are employees and have no such issue. Coco stays in Japan on a visa through working for Cover too, even if it took a while to get for her. Same for Mori.
Kiara leaves because she is homesick, not because she literally has no way to come back (not a real issue for an EU citizen anyway, because there are generous visa terms between the EU and Japan since their free trade deal).

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>>807296
Holo EN is such a fucking dumpster fire, my god

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>>807488
H-how many types are there?

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>>826966
Translate it weebs

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>>833084
I feel like they don't get that granular

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>>833294
ching chong nip nong hong kong

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>>826966
So Kiarta is lefty huh?
Not a big surprise

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>>827963
>it's literally what's called toxic masculinity
nice board you have here
this slipped in and no one called it out
anyways, it's you filthy men who are making crying taboo, so please just become trannies and make the world a utopia, please

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>>827963
Sneed cope dilate.

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>>836321
>no one called it
No one called because you don't feed the trolls, lurk moar polfag

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>>826966
Seems based to me.

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>>838568
>seethes about pol
>tells anyone to lurk more
lol

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>>836321
>this slipped in and no one called it out
Called what out, retard? Do some words just trigger an automatic response in you, or do you come with pre-encoded messages like NPCs?

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>>808296
based

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>>838937
it's less seething and more telling you to fuck off

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>>836321
>>837530
Men being harassed or belittled for showing emotions besides anger is a real thing and toxic masculinity describes it well enough. Kill yourself

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>>839073
Based; also I would like to point out the irony in the fact that these people spent the last five years or so talking about how men showing emotions of any kind is feminized onions cuck or whatever the shit

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like, men fucking live shorter lives because they don't go to the doctor when their head or chest hurts, this is a well-documented fact. I'm not even talking about how high men's suicide stats. men and women both get a shit fucking deal and I don't understand why you'd lack empathy so utterly as to want to increase this excess death and suffering

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>>836321
>women are often perpetrators of toxic masculinity
>hurr durr ur saying men r ol evil
What?

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>>839073
I mean you're right, but you're also deluded to believe that the majority of people who use the term actually want to help men and just want a dopamine hit off of getting some rando twitter harassed because they have an anime avatar.

And why would they do otherwise, they wouldn't be able to make any money if people realized they didn't need their snakeoil terns to improve themselves

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>>839343
>>839426
Prepare to get soijacked and told to dilate, anon. I'm not sure how a site that's supposed to be counter culture and shit developed a mindset like this. I know I hated having to hide my interest in slice of life anime from my parents because I was afraid it looked too cute, same with liking soft art styles, or anything deemed less manly than the norm. Are they going to turn into the same type of parents? It's retarded.

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>>839508
And yet absolutely everyone who viciously opposes this term's usage either denies that the problem exists or actively works to make the problem worse.

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>>839508
I don't give a fuck how some retard on twitter uses the term, it's a real thing.

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>>839564
I used to believe that it's just a factor of how people who suffered either want no one to suffer or want other people to suffer. I no longer believe that. It appears that this website is just composed majorly of people who think the existing system is fine except the people who are already suffering maybe should off themselves altogether.

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>>839565
>>839599
It's not that there isn't a problem, it's just that the term itself implies that there is something inherently wrong with masculinity itself, and that is how it is used the majority of the time. As it turns out, it's hard to have a discussion if you keep saying something that cannot be inherently changed about a lot of people is actually wrong. Even if it's not how you don't mean it, to the people who don't know the terms (which is usually people who need help with their issues) they're not going to be able to move pass that.

You DO want to improve the situation, right?

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>>839744
>it's just that the term itself implies that there is something inherently wrong with masculinity itself
It literally doesn't. It literally says right in the term that it's "toxic" masculinity that's the problem. Masculinity itself is fine. People who use the term offer a lot of examples of positive, non-toxic masculinity, even though it honestly wraps back to generic patriarchal chivalry half the time for some reason. You would have know this if you had actually listened to people instead of seething about what they could have been possibly saying in secret.

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>>826921
the mic was muffled because calli was hugging kiara and calli was speaking through kiara's hair

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>>839698
I'm not sure how it is in the less rural areas, but in the state I live in nothing has changed. You'll still get called a pussy/wimp/whatever if you don't like the stereotypical manly shit. I'd be crucified if I ever brought up a slice of life anime or anything that isn't some basic bitch shounen. Maybe people on this site just don't understand that just because the shitters on twitter act all girly it doesn't mean that people irl accept it. It's like how if you told someone irl to respect your pronouns you'd get called crazy, real life isn't twitter.
>>839744
There's nothing wrong with masculinity, I don't think any anons in this thread were trying to imply there was. I didn't take "toxic masculinity" as "all masculinity is toxic", and people that use it in that way need to off themselves.

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>>839698
you should learn when you grow up that most people tend to gravitate to inflicting the same suffering that was inflicted on them on others when given the chance. this is why fucked up workplace cultures always breed more fucked up stuff. the people who were interns/bottom rung were abused in a way and once they climb they always dish it out themselves.
israel is a convenient nationstate example of this, if anyone wouldn't do half the shit they do... etc

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>>839855
>There's nothing wrong with masculinity, I don't think any anons in this thread were trying to imply there was.
I think gender roles are in general kind of cringe, but I don't respect anyone who says shit like "the patriarchy hurts men too" or all other nonsense that parses as "actually it's your fault for being a man", it only exacerbates the problem.

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This discussion isn't vtuber related and is getting too personal so probably better to stop. I just hope if any of you retards have male kids that you don't beat the shit out of them for liking pink or something retarded.
>>840013
People should just be able to like whatever the fuck they want as long as it's not hurting anyone else. I don't care about this patriarchy nonsense or shaming anyone for how they were born. I just want people to lighten the fuck up and let people enjoy things. Take me back when everything wasn't irony filled "soi" this "soi" that, if you like thing you are "consoooommer". But I'll stop sperging out like an autist

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>>839830
>It literally doesn't. It literally says right in the term that it's "toxic" masculinity that's the problem. Masculinity itself is fine.
Again this works with people familiar with the terminology, but what about people who aren't? No matter how you try to rationalize it, it is going to sound like an attack of a part of someone that they cannot inherently change.

>You would have know this if you had actually listened to people instead of seething about what they could have been possibly saying in secret.
I've practically done enough laps on the SJW/Anti-SJW circuit at this point to come to the conclusion that a lot of these terms are, unintentional or not, specifically designed to create a "secret club" of sorts designed to keep people out of the know. And that in itself isn't bad since every group does it at some point. The different is nobody fucking expects anybody to understand what a rrat is outside of the context of this board.

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>>840189
>Again this works with people familiar with the terminology, but what about people who aren't? No matter how you try to rationalize it, it is going to sound like an attack of a part of someone that they cannot inherently change.
When I say "incompetent doctors are a bad thing" it cannot be more crystal clearingly obvious that the problem is doctors who are incompetent and not the entirety of the field of medicine.

Again, your options are 1) a term that exists 2) literally no term at all, and people who insist that there should not be a term also insist that there's no problem and the current state of affairs is good. It's very basic orweillan stuff - take away people's words to take away their ability to talk about the concepts those words describe

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Toxic masculinity is just a term used to try and control men.

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>>802945
Calli is not interested in lesbian sex. This frustrates Kiara.

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>>808376
Men get emotional when they are mentally weak/unstable

Thats why 2 months later, when he was at his lowest only then he cried like a bitch, because his mind was weak at that given moment

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Holy shit read Carl Jung you "stoic" psychiatrists.

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>>840526
Why?

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>>840423
do you even know what toxic masculinity is?

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>>840693
An arbitrary categorization of certain male behaviors as undesirable? An open invitation to the state to control and monitor the socialization of men?

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>>1
Nice on topic thread you faggots have going here
>>>/out/

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>>840844
>An arbitrary categorization of certain male behaviors as undesirable?

this is unironically the best description of toxic masculinity I have ever seen

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>>840554
He is the greatest on the subjects discussed itt

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>>841279
Where would you recommend I start?

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>>840844
People who lash out against the concept of toxic masculinity are insecure manchildren, because they're scared it may apply to them.

People who criticize the misuse of accusations of toxic masculinity to silence men are correct.

SJWs did not invent the concept to silence you. SJWs blow shit out of proportion a lot and misuse words.

The fact that you fight against the concept instead of understanding it and using that understanding to fight against the person throwing that accusation at you shows that you either severely lack understanding, or their accusations are true.

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>>841395
>The fact that you fight against the concept instead of understanding it and using that understanding to fight against the person throwing that accusation at you shows that you either severely lack understanding, or their accusations are true.
And accusing them of being insecure manchildren helps that how?

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>>841483
I don't understand your question.

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>>841537
Has it ever occurred that the reason why people lash out against the concept of toxic masculinity may not, in fact be insecure manchildren? And accusing them of being toxic for rejecting the term is not actually helping things at all?

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>>841610
I'm accusing them because they pretend to understand a concept but clearly don't, and on this topic that means they're either ignorant and their say is invalid, or they're in denial... and I'm leaning toward the latter because of the particular response they gave is one that is commonly done by people in denial "I can't be toxically masculine because toxic masculinity is an SJW fabrication" vs what sane people would say which is "this is not toxic masculinity because..."

So yeah, my diagnosis is either dunning-kruger or toxic masculinity, and this is 4chan where being crude about your perception of people is the norm.

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>>807931
pics?

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>>804055
Yes. Mori has a Cover visa. Kiara can have Cover apply for one but wants to go back home for a while.
She's talked about this to death for months, at least since mid november.

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>>803852
The Sasuke-pastiche approach to interpersonal emotional exchange (2019 revised).
"Shot? Feel like feeling pain? Dont!" - And 149 other everyday easy-to-remember emotional lifehacks.

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>>807296
source: dude trust me

how do you guys make up this kind of shit?

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>>841000
What? Her pending departure from Japan is public knowledge

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>>850602
Not what im talking about, this thread is looking like the bastard child of /pol/ and /r9k/

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>>832694
sponsored by the company backing them

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>SEAnigger and tranny thread yet again
This literal frog is more successful than any of you will ever be. Please seethe more

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>>802945
"Friendship" is a relationship too, OP.

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I think Kiara is projecting all her emotions of coming back home into Mori. It's not really about Mori. It's like when my gf is upset about her work and she snaps at me and then cries that I forgot about a thing that she said and tell me I'm the worst. It's easier for her because she knows I won't really reject her emotions... just like Mori.

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>>852412
sounds like you got a shit girlfriend m8

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>>836321
Unironic npc response.

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>>852849
She's quite immature. But she's learning on her own. It's hard to handle emotions in public when you have too much of it.

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>>846858
>>804055
>>806505
Didn't she also say Japan isn't really the kind of place she would want to settle down in at one point? I can see that since all foreigners will be foreigners there, which would be extra tolling on extroverts like her.

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>>809839
Congrats, you figured out how 99% (100% on 4chan) of internet arguments work.

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>>841000
First time on 4chan?

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>>853458
Japan is a nice to visit place not really retire in. You will only survive if you only frequent gaijin friendly places and have a shit ton of money.

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>>841352
Red Book is the classic, man in search of soul is easy to digest

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>>841000
You do it for free without extra powers like janitors.

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The most retarded thing about this discussion is how most of the thread ignores that Mori cried too. They both care for each other and are gonna miss each other, is that really so hard to accept? It is so hard to admit that Mori loves Kiara dearly and doesn't care about half the nitpicks and stupid shit most of you complain about because she is having fun with her friend?

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>>854628
Did you forget who we're dealing with here?

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>>854673
Fair enough.

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>>854628
Based and wholesomepilled

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>>805442
hah...uhh...yeah...I'm totally not a psychopath

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>>803852
t. read a descartes summary once

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>>807296
i am laughing so hard at this shit and the responses

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>>802945
Is Mori a pedo?

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>>832694
Because they are actually for Kadokawa.

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>>839564
>hide my interest in slice of life anime
So any other anime was fine?

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>>840131
>I just hope if any of you retards have male kids
I hope none of anon's get kids in general. I fear how shitty parents most of the anon's would be.

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>>836321
t. can't read

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>>807296
ogey

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>>803852
kekd

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Yeah I'm sure Mori absolutely hates Kiara's guts who cant wait to get rid of her at all

have you guys never had a close friend before?

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>>860407
You do know what site you are in, anon?

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>>803852
tell me one (1) reason you're browsing 4chan instead of doing useful

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>>802945
>If Kiara doesn't have feelings for Calli, then why is she crying?
Unrequited

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>>853458
Her japan experience has been mediocre at best for the most part. She loves japan, she hates not having enough money to properly live in japan.
Her house has literal rats in the walls that come out and eat her food. A step up to the tokyo-wide mutli-stage cockroach invasion, but still rats.