>EU gen, >SCs almost entirely in USD

[Anonymous No.]

What was the point of appealing to these europoors again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
EUbros... how do we cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
They're saving it for merch

[Anonymous No.]

>only those who live in eu considered european

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174314
We don't cope. We don't give a fuck what some third worlder whines about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
The average euro makes 1/4 as much as the average burger so its not that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174770
That has to be Brutto. Netto is like 1/10th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
It was morning in the US, major debuff hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hololive ENGLISH
>english is official language in US
>english is 1 of 24 official languages in EU
the fuck are you fags expecting

[Anonymous No.]

The point was proving that Amerimutts still watch even if you leave Cover's precious PST prime-time that they've been psychotically OBSESSED with for 4+ years now.

[Anonymous No.]

We Amerigods run the world, bow down to your masters europoors.

[Anonymous No.]

europeans donated over 2k dollars, that's pretty good considering europe doesn't watch vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175283
that’s the time zone I live in though, that time zone is awesome

[Anonymous No.]

I mean, they're just white Americans if they immigrated to there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
Europe isn't only Euro, there's a bunch of other currencies.
>HUF
>PLN
>CZK
Eastern Euros dumped their entire salary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
There are between 7-12 other European currencies other than Euros in those lists, depending on which stream it was. No idea how much they add up to and I don't much care, but the Euro isn't the only European currency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175472
Meant for:
>>80174637

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
almost like Europoors are real and Europeans just whine about fucking everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
We were all using VPNs because we care about opsec

[Anonymous No.]

never give these fuckers anything ever again

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
The idea behind holos streaming during EU times is to build up a bigger eu audience retard.
Of course the US audience is the biggest one, 90% of streams are during their time.
I bet if you compare pacific coast to atlantic coast you will see that 80%+ of USD superchats come from the west coast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
seems like it made a lot of sense considering CC and raora made the most out of everyone in holoEN? weird thread

[Anonymous No.]

Europeans actually make up 1.15M Yen for Ceci, that's like 23%. Not too bad I'd say.
Also it has to do a lot with mentality, Europeans don't waste their money like mutts.
Sorry that we aren't indoctrinated to consume like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT: ""people"" from SEA larping as Americans

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
Are you saying Americans are so retarded they will literally donate to anyone with blue dorito to their name? That or they watch during euro hours, which is good, it means there is no need for all chuubas to try and fit in the same 8 hour timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175786
You are answering to a schizo shitposter who spams about yuropoors in /#/ all day every day. A literally mentally ill individual. This superchat shit has driven all the fucking numbermonkeys in frenzy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175896
>Watch vtuber
>Pretend to oppose consumerism somehow
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

Europeans are worthless never let those idiots have a voice, holoEN is for Americans and its a good thing Cover knows it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175179
Uneducated burger or sea detected
>>80175896
This is true. Biggest SC I have given is to Mumei but only because it was to help her fund some project and get pfp from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175896
If your culture isn't to tip, and streamers rely on tips, why do you think you deserve anything?

[Anonymous No.]

European here, my bank literally blocked my card after I tried sending 20 euros to GG and then CC because they thought someone stole my card or I got scammed because nobody ever pays money to youtube. I had to call them to unlock that shit asap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176321
>its
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Kind of a weird flex to invoke "Europoors"i n this instance. Literally a big fat chunk of the Robots superchats is Europe, a market that has been basically completely ignored by the whole industry. Shit is a literal wake-up call to properly start serving the market instead of wasting several generations on actual third world Indonesians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176354
Lol. Cover does not give a fuck about SCs. Sponsors and merch is todays game for everyone, even indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176603
Oh ok then why make a big deal about this monetization thing? Why do you even care enough to post here and have all these threads about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175283
i always found it weird that most talents seemed to ignore EST prime time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176578
>by the whole industry
You don't watch the whole industry if you think that's the case. Every other corpo was eating good during EU primetime because Cover didn't give a shit about that timezone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176547
True 'murican! Shit spelling überalles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176707
I've been assuming EST people just prefer to watch SNL and MSNBC over vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176019
Okay I'll spoonfeed you.
We don't oppose it but we don't waste all of our earned money on material goods, we don't value brands as much as you do.
It is still a thing here, teenagers and young adult do have bad spending habits. A lot of it is the influence of US influencer and the consumerism brain wash.
It is culturally frauned upon here because of the post war economy. The US at the time was rich while europe was shit poor until the 80s. That cultivated a mindset of saving your hard earned money for a better future.
These values still carry some weight.

>>80176354
Tipping culture is a thing in Europe, much more so than in Japan. It isn't done by everyone but we do value good service.
Recently, more countries enforce service fees from 10-15%.
The US Tip culture is a bad because your minimum wage is utterly fucked and they rely on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176868
Pretty sure locals find it outright insulting if you try to tip them in Japan. Gifting them flowers work a lot better though

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
No GFE, no donos. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176992
>Pretty sure locals find it outright insulting if you try to tip them in Japan
They don't find insulting, but it's either servers aren't allowed to accept tip or don't know what to do with money. They do accept tip if they can

[Anonymous No.]

>>80177021
What GG did was kind of gfe though

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
I love number threads!

[Anonymous No.]

>>80177130
>don't know what to do with money
To put this into perspective, imagine your boss at the workplace came to you and handed over like 10 dollars in cash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
advent BTFO'd by Justice how can justfags ever compete! (verification not required)

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176861
Überallem, it's in the dative case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
We have made the euro gen, now we shall make the euro fans

Seriously though. Hololive should start advertising at European conventions. There are quite a few that have attendance numbers much higher than those of Anime Expo (Japan Expo in Paris, Manga Barcelona, Lucca Comics & Games)

[Anonymous No.]

Boy, I do love spending half of my income for taxes and health care :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175080
the words you're looking for a gross and net

[Anonymous No.]

>>80177394
>shit stirrer can't even keep his own story straight for a single sentence
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176707
Because most of the talents live on the west coast

[Anonymous No.]

>EU Gen
Are they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175896
1.15M is less than Euro alone, what are you on about? It's 2.2M for yuro currencies, or 35%. Considering that it's more than Gigi or ERB got in total or that the max was Kiara getting 40% on a single stream it's really not bad. CC will secure yuro income that nobody else in holo could tap into at least for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80180272
All except one

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174314
They're used to living in our shadow and following along after us like lost children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>appealing to EU
Never was the plan

[Anonymous No.]

>>80177149
What she do

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>80182245
This is false by the way, accents are oftentimes seen as cute (in particular on women).
As a Europoor I find ERB's english accent amazing and Raora's italian one adorable.
Not gonna oshihen from JP though, Holo EU is just about 5 years too late for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175487
Plus the Krone and Krona

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
Anon, it takes 130 usd to red in my local currency. You guys are literally like those south american meme currencies for us. Just cosplay as a pleb getting fucked over by corporations while saving money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80188815
Don't insult the mutt dollarydoo, they'll have a meltdown if you laugh at their pathetic weak currency

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174314
By pouring your chunky soup down the toilet because you lack garbage disposals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174637
It was still >50% usd though

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176354
kek I have never heard this brought up but it's so goddamn true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176868
>The US Tip culture is a bad because your minimum wage is utterly fucked and they rely on it.
Yeah no. American wages and disposable income still outstrip europoors. And many euro countries don't even have a minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80188815
It's weird that all these services adjust the price of things based on some strange standard of living based metric instead of the much more understandable disposable income metric, in which america still comes way out on top.

Like great your currency costs 1.3x more but that doesn't change the fact that you have less actual usd to spend due to getting taxed through the nose (there are euro countires with more than 50% of their gdp being government spending I shit you not).

[Anonymous No.]

>>80191564
>Georgia
>Five
Georgiabros, I...

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175786
Justice might increase the European fan base but does anyone believe that EU superchats will be higher than USD superchats for any HoloEN talent in 2025? Europe doesn't have either Japanese idol culture or US tipping culture. I am skeptical there will be that much of a change even after they get dedicated EU vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Gets a gen to fill their time slot
>Still won't donate because muh culture doesn't align with those damn outsiders
>Will also never buy merch because everyone hates shipping to Europe

Huh I feel like we've had this discussion before Europoorchaamas...

[Anonymous No.]

>>80178700
boy i do love having actual healthcare :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>80192997
Kek no you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80192997

[Anonymous No.]

The EU superchat increased a lot actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176354
Tipping is extremely rare in Japan though

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>Yuros love the German one
Is that like a masoquist fetish?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone who's seen Kiara's sc knew this already. Things will change I believe but CC already getting 1/4 in euros is already pretty big. I'm a PST burger and stick to Kiara and Ina because they stream at hours I'm not sleeping or working. Time spots aren't always what determines where your viewers are from.

I hope European bros get better merch buying options too one day

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
europoors lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>80201201
Sources tell me that Europe will freeze solid in the coming years, so there won't be any money for donos in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80201472
Hopefully all this crap will end before that, if that even gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
Twitch has the European audience, we need to steal it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175179
Better speak English. Imagine not targetting the biggest market there is, baybee~!

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193516
Survivor's bias, retard. Of course US hospitals won't have as many deaths since most of your citizens don't even want to step foot in an ambulance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80203653
Nope. It's not due to people going to emergency rooms when they don't have to, as this is strictly for emergency care. The reasons cited by the nhs were pic related, as they do their own reports. It's because their service is abysmally bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80203653
>>80204211
They also let in a ton of african "doctors" who don't know what the fuck they are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80204280
lmao, the uk is so fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193648
interesting that the ones with the highest asian% get the most sponsorships...

[Anonymous No.]

Uh? I'm from the EU too, but I use dollars on online transactions, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>80186251
nothing. perfect GFE lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>80192331
we'll mog both with merch sales once Cover actually bothers to ship to us through official channels instead of having to deal with third party crap like geekjack who're notorious thieves literally, they steal merch AND what you paid for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80192341
>everyone hates shipping to Europe
China has no problem shipping here. in fact, the trade routes are so well established and busy that you can order something from China and it'll have free shipping.
>Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176707
Gura Gura Gura...

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
EU Chads are simply too high IQ to superchat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80197939
she wasn't a literal who in her PL, so most of her fans have just migrated over to the new character, supporting the same woman as always. Same goes for Raora by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

Eurobro here, I spend over 3k€ every year for hololive merch
It's just that I care about the relevant holo, not the mostly soulless EN branch. Like, why would I send a superchat to someone who debuted a few days ago ? When I can support my hardworking oshi and her coworkers instead, who's been there for 5 years and more

[Anonymous No.]

>>80178687
Ame and Gura will be appearing at Kiara's panel on Sunday. Japan Expo Paris

[Anonymous No.]

>>80210113
>my hardworking oshi
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211246
Yeah, and I am Santa Claus

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211353
Not a lazy EN member and that's all you need to know

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211246
I heard it's more like booth recording thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>80210113
>debuted a few days ago
You are not wrong, there is no really point unless you peer into the abyss and convince yourself that she is worth your money and it won't change in the near future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211544
coward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211544
My wild guess its Watame? But I do agree that its too early to tell how they end up. I see the potential in ceci, but I feel like theres is something missing that my JP oshi has (Kanata btw)

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
What do you meant almost entirely USD, EU currencies ended up mogging Asian currencies at least. USD is still the majority, but current result is good enough to show Cover that we care about EU holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211544
Pussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175487
are eastern yuros to EU like SEA is to Asia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
It's sad that those yuro girls are gonna be maxxtaxed

[Anonymous No.]

>>80213442
the ones anon listed are part of Central Europe, actually. more precisely, it's 3/4ths of the Visegrád Four, with Slovakia missing because they use EUR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80180272
Well two of them are in Europe at least, the other two are in japan and america though

[Anonymous No.]

>>80204211
>lower immunization rates
How

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>ERB the lowest
ah as usual unicorn winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193648
>EU consistently in the second and third spot, even when Cover has done its best to drive them away
>SEAnigs insist that they should've debuted fucking Holo Pinoy instead
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193648
>>80174162
So let me get this straight.
Revenue increased a lot from europeans and americans spent money regardless of the nationality.
Why shouldn't they have done this then?

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't advent hit 300k before debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80211550
Kiara said it won't be streamed online, but people there can possibly record it. Whatever it is, it's Gura's idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80218623
Oh, and it's live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
Why are europoors so poor anyway?
Is it low wages and high taxes? Or the result of a weak economy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193446
>2015 survey, for 2013 data
>during presidency of Obama

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Americans discover that not every country in Europe is part of the eurozone

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176354
Only tiny Vtubers need SC for Holo it's just a small bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80191762
Euros have more spending money. There is a reason why most EU countries have higher standard of living than US. You get higher taxes but you also get a lot of free shit and people don't live on 200k $ student loans while renting their home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80192331
Euros don't tip but buy merch instead. Give Europe merch without retarded shipping and money will flow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80191564
i saw some statistics that said black people in alabama have better salaries than europoors including from the uk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80205978
Same I always do PayPal with usd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80191564
Yeah let's forget that life in US is like 3x more expensive and 2/3 of Americans have 1k $ or less in savings.

[Anonymous No.]

Euros will pay up when merch becomes more available. Donating isn't in our nature and at least in my case I gotta jump through a couple of 2fa verification hoops just to send a supa so I can't throw them out of impulse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219082
but Amerimutts have more spending online power. Like, they get less than average euro in percentage, but buying something like a PC would be cheaper for American simply because of how much more dollars they make, despite having less disposable income in percents. If that makes sense, not sure how to put it properly into words.
Say, Amerimutt pays $100 for shitty internet, I pay $10 bucks for good one, but we both pay $2k for 4090, despite them making much more money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80218714
From what I understand you basically don't pay tax in the US, but instead you get robbend blind if you as much as call an ambulance.
In the EU, the state keeps 50% of your income but anything basic you need is free. Like, you can break every bone in your body and get sent to some kind of expert hospital via helicopter, and after 6 months of treatment and reha you owe exactly zero dollars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>Vtubers
>make a living initially from the Tipping system created and celebrated in America
>Tipping system is just universally accepted by the Western countries because America is retarded by default
>EU Vtubers
>tipping system is inexistent
>the taxing system is already at play
>one of the biggest merchandise buyers in the world
EUbros won't tip because they are already getting ass-raped by their taxes, so much so that Germans actually are considered the stingiest people in the EU, despite having one of the highest GDPs.

Until merch sales are launched, we should rely on the American cucks to fund this failure of a gen. Is gucci.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80191333
Wait, really?
They don't have those?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
we're saving it for meth

[Anonymous No.]

>most supachatted stream ever in holoEN
>wow look this time slot was a mistake
really weird thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219601
yeah, euros live in mudhuts, worse than sea people I'd argue, like literally Africa tier, shitting on streets and stuff, washing their clothes in the dirty water, because they don't have washing machines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219601
What? You never heard of our famous garbage seperation? We meticulously seperate plastics, paper, bio-degradable waste, and even bring stuff like batteries to collection places (usually a supermarket will have one), we even return used bottles (plastic or otherwise) when we buy new drinks. An often told joke (or is it?) is that all the stuff we took great care to seperate then gets thrown on a big pile at a garbage disposal site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219763
England isn't part of the EU anymore, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80192331
Give me merch to buy that isn't almost £100 shipping and I'll whale hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219727
It's pure burger cope the thread. Month ago they were laughing at the possible EU gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176707
I really hate it. It'd make it a lot easier for me to watch being a central fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219411
PC hardware is more expensive in Europe yes but living in general is cheaper. Also less people live on loans.

[Anonymous No.]

Cecilia made more from European currencies than ERB, GG, Biboo, etc made in the entirety of their monetization. That's a customer base that basically didn't exist before now adding a decent amount to the hololive ecosystem. Cover is definitely happy. This thread is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80213442
EU eastern euros are fine, it's the non-EU eastern euros who are actual niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>80218812
and also some countries in eurozone don't use Euro

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
Wait, are you saying that the market they have been "appealing to" (which is arguable at best, in its current state) for like 1 month has less presence than the market they have appealed to for 4+ years?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193446
God Canada is such a shit country. Buffalo has multiple clinics that just operate for Canadians that need MRIs.
https://www.proscanbuffalo.com/

[Anonymous No.]

One of them streams at 6PM SEA time though

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
USD percentages:
>ERB: 48.18%
>GG: 71.1%
>Raora: 53.50%
>CC: 51.69%

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176354
They should make merch available to EU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80224064
to prove you won't buy it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80224553
You may not know this, but the official Hololive shop doesn't ship to Europe. Like at all. The recent Gamers concert sold tickets in a bunch of countries, the US among them - but not a single EU one.
Despite all of this the EU is the second largest share of superchats on the most recent english speaking gen, after the US. Just imagine if we could actually, you know, buy concert tickets and merch without resorting to third parties and proxies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80225582
I think breaking dimension also didn‘t list germany as supported for the streaming ticket last time I checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>Over 1k supas to CC just from burgerGODS alone
Lol, I can’t wait til we take CC from you broke eurokeks. Just sit there in your cuck chair as burgerchads have their way with the cute german girl as she cutely giggles reading our SCs and starts pandering to us more

[Anonymous No.]

>>80227782
Just like we did with Kiara. Also, Euros are into the cuck thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80223696
Makes sense honestly, burgerbros carrying babu

[Anonymous No.]

>>80227782
Oh no, please don't throw all your burger money at our european women. You'll make us feel emasculated. Well maybe not actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80175487
CZECHS ARENT EASTERN EUROPE YOU FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174314
You gatekept too hard so that now you're a minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80226521
Its on spwn, works fine for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>80219496
Your whole tipping argument falls flat since Japan has a 0 tipping culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80228587
Also she’s the token American of the gen.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: flips pretending to be american and seething at the white man because he conquered them

[Anonymous No.]

>>80176707
Cover USA is headquartered in California.

[Anonymous No.]

I can just talk for myself but I were a sleep. I sadly have a job I need to go to so if they don't stream so freaking late I might actually catch one or two streams...
Also celebrate monetization streams are often kind of boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80220906
>This thread is retarded.
it was made by an amerishart most likely an ethnic j-ew
>>80221835
not true. what you meant to say is that not all EU members use the Euro as main currency, and there are also a few non-EU countries that do use the Euro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174770
Thia guy gets It. I make ~1500€ a month and live fairly comfortably with money to spare on hobbies. For what i have read, that's nothing in some parts of the USA. Of course, the cost of live is higher as well.
For me an akasupa is almost a 8% of my net income. I could do it (and i did It), but in the future i will buy merch instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>Try to pander to Europeans with the worst gen in the history of Hololive
>Surprised when Europeans don't donate
Throwing money at shitty products is an American thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
cozzie livs mate, saving my cash for liz membership

[Anonymous No.]

>>80220864
Yes, but mutts also get way higher wages, while all internet products are oriented on those wages, so anyone who doesn't have American wages practically overpaying for stuff. It's even worse in shitholes since they have a hard time getting those American products, so they will hike up the price even more, when average citizen probably have to eat bugs to get himself a decent phone lol, that's why like IDniggers thrive on just a few western paypigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80193446
So MRI is the entirety of the healthcare system. Can you show this same statistic for 2021, for example?

Anyway, if you stop to think about it, what is the reason the US has so many in comparison, let's say, to Denmark? Could it be that the healthcare being for profit means literally that anyone wishing to have fat stacks of cash purchases one to be able to skin alive the poor patients? Because as you know, the cost of ANY test in USA is sometimes even an order or two of magnitude more expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80223696
That's actually impressive for GG to have such an international audience.
Hopefully those numbers will go up in the future for all of them, though. It's nice to see everyone starting to get catered to.
I can't believe my shitpost thread's still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
USA! USA! USA!
i am not even american.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
>if you debut EU gen it won't work because US won't understand them or like them
>now that they have debuted it's still bad because US understands and likes them but somehow it's still bad
>please just trust me
Man, shut the fuck up. I'm tired of reading all your stupid ideas. You're wrong 99.9999% of the time, and that one off time you're right it's because you accidentally made a typo and moved goal posts and twisted words. Get a life you loser, or shut up and enjoy cute anime girls. Stop trying your hardest to be the eternal seething crab that dies of stress related reasons having achieved nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80239609
>shitpost
your Europhobia is too strong for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80236334
As a yuro I gotta say it really depends. 1500 a month is poverty level where I live. 3200 a month is normal, but still low compared to burger levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
I knew this was going to happen. People keep saying "oh the euros have been waiting for a vtuber for them!!!!" only for them to get one and not even support them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
obsessed

[Anonymous No.]

>>80239361
>Because as you know, the cost of ANY test in USA is sometimes even an order or two of magnitude more expensive.

Actually american out of pocket expenses are less than most euro countries as percentage of money spent on healthcare.
Government spending is always extremely inneficient, it is really up to socialists to prove why nationalized healthcare would be so different, especially considering america already has the VA which is notoriously shit (not exactly NHS tier, but still shit).

[Anonymous No.]

>>80246515
Are you telling me the stories of americans refusing an ambulance because it would financially ruin them are fake? Because an ambulance is free in Europe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80247034
also, our "free" healthcare might be shit, but it's still there. if it didn't exist I wouldn't even be alive today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80174162
I only donate to my oshi and this ain't her. Not sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80247034
How do they know it will cost them before actually being billed? It's a collective delusion.
Similarly the stigma for people to take an uber instead of an ambulance when it wasn't really needed has saved countless lives.

That being said no hospital in the US can turn you down for an emergency, it's very good system where 90% of people polled say they have the healthcare they need, compared to <50% for other anglo nations like canada or the uk.

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>>80247034
If you're poor you are covered through medicaid so the state pays for everything. You know the whole Marx "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"? Yeah that's american healthcare.

Euroshit healthcare by comparison is to the lower classes everyone get shit care, while the upper classes do medical tourism to the US for the best care.

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>>80247748
Lol, I have never, absolutely never ever even once in my life, heard that someone from my country went to the US for medical tourism. Maybe for some rare disease where the foremost expert happens to work in a US hospital.

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>>80248003
because only celebs and politicians do it.

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>>80248003
Because it's for the wealthy and primarily old people (who I doubt you know), because american healthcare is just so much better, and old people need the most care. The average wagie just has to wait on a list for months to get a cardiogram for "free" which the average american can get in an afternoon for only $15. It's actually really pathetic.

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>>80174162
Money is money

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>>80248003
I did. It was for plastic surgery.

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>>80248003
You guessed one major reason. Doctors get paid a lot more in the US and so want to be there. The experts in rare conditions are often in the US.

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>>80248003
This. Private healthcare is ALSO available in EU countries.

[Anonymous No.]

euros and jobbing, classic combo