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GET COMMUNITY NOTED
GET COMMUNITY NOTED
GET COMMUNITY NOTED
GET COMMUNITY NOTED
GET COMMUNITY NOTED

>> No.79980435

IT'S FLIPPING OVER

>> No.79980508

flips - gets cease and desist

>> No.79980541

Funniest thing is filian has zero idea any of this is happening

>> No.79980639

>>79980389
lol what
so who like... who tf got the ball rolling on this figma then? her manager or something? jesus

>> No.79980690

>>79980508
flips in vtubing are always disasters...

>> No.79980718

>>79980389
Did Filian really think that she could get away with using a public VRChat model for merch collabs?

>> No.79980739

>>79980718
Yes

>> No.79980769

>>79980541
I can assure you she's been dm'd, either by her friends, manager or randoms

>> No.79980787

>>79980541
>filian has zero idea any of this is happening
whos gonna tell him? lol

>> No.79980794
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79980794

it's a nothing burger if the artist was serious they would have contacted fillian directly rather then chasing clout on the the cancer that is twatter

>> No.79980847

>>79980794
>Pippafag
>Being retarded
Name a more iconic duo

>> No.79980856

>>79980639
she was pushing the envelope for too long and got even more bold after joining mythic, she made several merch already and probably felt safe for the next step. Funny thing is that she has a custom model that she keeps pushing the debut for some "reason".

>> No.79980859

>>79980389
Why does vt hate fillian?

>> No.79980864

>>79980718
pls andastand ligger retarded logic where "indies are different from corpo, perms? copyright? who cares" LMAO

>> No.79980914

>>79980859
/vt/ wants to manhandle her tiny little body.

>> No.79980916

>community note
>"source" is a tweet
>>79980859
It's just niji deflection of their AX embarrassment

>> No.79980919

>>79980859
you want the objective reason? well the post already answer it

>> No.79980927

>>79980690
suisei

>> No.79980926

>>79980794
retard, at this point it's up to lawyers

>> No.79980945

>>79980859
She's 2010s /b/ concentrated into a vtuber. I'm surprised anyone enjoys her.

>> No.79980964

>>79980859
/vt/ likes to punish people when they fuck up. This is the biggest fuck-up we've seen in months. Any feelings for or against fil are secondary.

>> No.79981003
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>>79980690
Speak for yourself loser.

>> No.79981010

>>79980864
>"indies are different from corpo, perms? copyright? who cares"
I don't know where this got started, or how it carried on for so long. Is it just because indies are usually so small that they aren't worth pursuing? And because no one pursues these indies, this slowly morphed into a belief among fans that they can do whatever they want, even though that was never the actual reason?

>> No.79981014

>>79980794
wheres the pippa nendo?

>> No.79981029

>>79980859
Because she's fucking obnoxious. >>79980945
summed it up.

>> No.79981043

Holy shit the number of vtweeters concern trolling around this "debacle" is absolutely nauseating. The original creator might get some pocket change for ethics' sake but legally they're absolutely fucked with zero recourse outside of pity. Meanwhile you have a bunch of mouthbreathers @ing Phil about it like she knows anything at all trying their best to recreate the FBI's letter to MLK in tone.

>>79980964

Look at this degenerate for example, there's absolutely nothing organic about this post, just a brainwashed twittoid looking for a hatewagon to jump on because there's nothing else in xir rotten life. The biggest fuck-up we've seen in months? Where have you been?

>> No.79981058

>>79980389
fucking KEK
how hard is it to read a simple license agreement man

>> No.79981061
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>>79981014

what makes you think pippa even want one?

>> No.79981108

>>79980794
go back to your kiwifarms

>> No.79981126

>>79980389
pfff, if you sold your rights to the product, it's theirs. You can't just piggyback off them and act like you deservers a part of that pie.

In fact... you actually have no rights to sell it again like how you sold it to rekson later on.

>> No.79981130
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>>79981061
https://x.com/pipkinpippa/status/1641472185201045504

>> No.79981133

>>79980389
OOOOOOOOOOF YIKES YA'LL

>> No.79981158

>>79980859
twitch whore

>> No.79981164

>>79981003
you just jinxed it. Congratz

>> No.79981216

Didnt she make "her model" free to download also on vrchat?

>> No.79981228

>>79980718
Her ego is astronomical. She regularly insults collab partners because shes bigger and they just have to sit there and take it or lose clout.

>> No.79981234

>>79981126
anon let a lawyer read your contracts from now on. Okay?

>> No.79981241

>>79980859
she supports project 2025.

>> No.79981247
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>>79981014
I wouldn't be surprised if she got one in a year or so.

>> No.79981273
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>>79981130

I mean i know she does but i figured i'd try to see if they knew it

>> No.79981284
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79981284

Today has been fun because all the armchair lawyers who suck griftermind's cock have been getting btfo all day

>> No.79981295

>>79980916
niji's booth being empty and pathetic was entirely expected and isn't news or interesting. funny and deserved, but it's a passive punchline and not an active situation like this is

>> No.79981297

>>79981130
AHAHAHAHA WHAT A BITCH BEGGAR

>> No.79981303

>>79980859
She's prime tiktok tuber

>> No.79981306
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>> No.79981307

>>79981273
Stop avatar fagging retard

>> No.79981360

>>79981130
KEK that would be sad if it wasnt so hilarious

>> No.79981375

>>79981126
Retard KEKW
READ NIGGER >>79981306

>> No.79981379
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79981379

Facts:
>Filian did not talk to the original owner of the model before releasing merch who states in the tos that you have to talk to him about merchandise
>Claimed she owns it and was directing people to make more merch of the model (she isnt the owner)
>She uses 4 different models on stream: The Jingo one which is the main one, "lil fil" 2 models by another artist, and 1 more unrelated to filian as a whole model which she calls Gilian. All are premade and arent original models, anyone can buy them off booth
>She uses 2 models for merch, the Jingo one which we now found out was never contacted about the merch, the lil fil one made by Komado is the same situation as Jingo and does NOT allow for sale as merch
>She uses 1 model for a video game, same artist as the lil fil one. Filian has never received permission
>All of Filians assets come with the Rindo model which means Filian has not "based her model off Rindo", it IS the Rindo model
>No word from good smile or Filian about it

>> No.79981397

>>79981241
>project 2025
Anon this is a blue board

>> No.79981400

>>79980389
Whats stopping her from getting the permission and splitting the profits with the creator? If they happens and it all goes through and the right people get the money, what happens then?

>> No.79981406
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>>79981307

nah i don't think i will let this thread be filled with Pippa :D

>> No.79981426

Honestly Filian needs to stop being lazy and get an official model. Its kind of insane shes gone this long without making or buying a commercial model. Theres really no excuse and its starting to cause problems which will only get worse.

>> No.79981446

>>79981307
>stop posting pictures of vtubers on the vtuber board

>> No.79981451

>>79980718
B-but I'm big enough this is totally my "brand" and my "trademark" now!!!!

>> No.79981496

>>79980847
(you) and being a fag

>> No.79981540

>>79981496
Meant to quote
>>79981406

>> No.79981553

>>79981379
it's only been twelve hours since jingo would have contacted filian and goodsmile, and this is the busiest week of the year for the EN industry. give it time

>> No.79981603

>>79981426
What's even worse is that she commissioned one last year and was going to debut it either right before or during the vtuber awards but never did

>> No.79981686

>>79981603
The bitch is to lazy to "rebuild" it's brand, like it would not even be this hard. Fucking mouse changes model and design all the time

>> No.79981691

>>79981284
>>79981306
>Pirated booth model
Makes it even better

>> No.79981692

>>79981400
Nothing really. They're probably in negotiations right now, but the catalog is bored and this is new content.

>> No.79981697

>>79981043
I was just answering the question, faggot, I don't even hate fil. You however are totally delusional if you think she has a right to sell products of IPs she doesn't own.

>> No.79981724

>>79981130
>pays $1,000 for twitter engagement.
sad.

>> No.79981733

>>79981406
>ai slop
figures someone who can't get enough real fanart isn't popular enough for a nendo

>> No.79981761

>edit model
>make illustration based on edit
>make merch based on illustration
Seems arguably legal to me.

>> No.79981788

>>79980794
the artist said he has contacted both goodsmile and fillian about this (although it's implied it's being done through a lawyer).

>> No.79981801

>>79981733
The irony of a filian fan complaining about "ai slop"
Dont you have 200$ to pay for a filian dating bot?

>> No.79981811

>>79981130
>/here/tuber begs on holo board for years for views
>still not relevant enough for a plastic statue
KEK

>> No.79981829

>>79981724
>$1,000
Try $10k.

>> No.79981850

>>79980859
It's just phasesharts attacking everyone again. There are like 5 pippa images itt from them.

>> No.79981861
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>>79981761
(copy from other thread)
>This asset was free, so therefor I can resell stuff using it!
No, the original creator owns the copyright, commercial and creative rights to the project, and therefor any money generated using the asset or it's likeness can be claimed by the original creator.
>I paid for it, so therefor I own the copyright!
No, even if you get a PRIVATE commission, but didn't CLEARLY establish that this is 'work for hire' or CLEARLY established you will own commercial and copyright after the project is complete, by default the artist still owns the creative right to the asset, therefor the original creator can claim any revenue generated.
>I paid for it, established that after the project is finished I own the rights to the asset, OR I paid for it, and it was disclosed upon payment completion I will own the rights.
You are free to do whatever you want with that asset
>Why didn't she get pinged for streaming and making money with the model before?
She was getting donations for entertainment WHILE using the model, not getting donations FOR the model.

>> No.79981863

>>79980389
Why does she not use her own version of the model anyway? It's not like she's lacking in funds.

>> No.79981868

>>79981829
The organization yellow checkmark is $900 a month

>> No.79981913

>>79981284
>griftermind's
Literally who

>> No.79981925

>>79981861
None of those greentexts are what I argued.

>> No.79981931

>>79981850
i thought phasecucks liked fillian? arent they friends or something

>> No.79981979

>>79981925
>and therefor any money generated using the asset or it's likeness can be claimed by the original creator.
>using the asset or it's likeness
>it's likeness

>> No.79982010

>>79981979
The likeness was changed.

>> No.79982016

>>79981868
So both posts are wrong

>> No.79982056

>>79980859
vrchatter with main character syndrome who shat on vtubers until they became more popular than vrchat.

>> No.79982061

>>79980389
LOCK HER UP
LOCK HER UP
LOCK HER UP

>> No.79982084

>>79982010
Negative.
The hair was modified but everything else remained the same.
You can't take coca cola, add something to it and sell it as a different product.

>> No.79982092

>>79981761
it's still a derivative work of the original
that's why I can't just edit pekora with pink hair and sell it as my own design

>> No.79982109

>>79981697
Uh oh, keep digging that hole you fucking moron. You and the other wannabe lawyers like >>79981861 really need to do some reading on licenses and when you know which one the original model was published under, you can come back to the table.

>> No.79982113

>>79982061
FOUR MORE YEARS
FOUR MORE YEARS

>> No.79982126

>>79980927
That's a Jap.

>> No.79982187
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79982187

Fil will bounce back from this stronger and all the antis will seethe even harder.

>> No.79982211

>>79982109
And what merit or qualifications is your stance based?
Inane SEA faggotry posting isn't legal defense in court

>> No.79982274

>>79980859
Trend chaser.
Hoped into VTubing once VRChat started to get displaced by Chuubas.
TLDR; Ego the size of Riku's Yacht.

>> No.79982348

>>79982274
How the fuck is one and a half sentences too long to read?

>> No.79982381

>>79982211
Holy shit you're stupid. My stance? Did I even invoke some kind of merit or qualification? I'm telling you the basics. If you don't know what license someone is supposedly breaking here, you don't even have something to talk about. You're a grifter. Present the license that protects the model from being derivative works or fuck off, because you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.79982450

>>79982381
used in* derivative works. You're throwing SEA around so I'm going to assume you need all the help with English you can get. Sorry for the typo.

>> No.79982484

Obviously she fucked up but the amount of twitter sisters ready to jump on her with the finger wagging tweets and snitch in the replies to the artist about everything she could be on the hook for is pretty crazy. I thought she organised a bunch of events for loads of no name chuubas to rub shoulders with bigger ones, chuuba awards ect.
Is it really just the edgy jokes that have so many people with the knives out for her now?

>> No.79982485

>>79981761
vt legal experts will tell you that jingo invented catgirls and all must pay.

>> No.79982520
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>>79982016
Actually I lied, she is paying 950$ (791)
Still retarded

>> No.79982552

>>79982381
I looked up the license listed imon Rindo's Booth page and it clearly says a) the IP remains owned by the creator and b) you have to contact the creator if you want to release physical merch. So it seems pretty clear to me she violated the license. I did all this before Jingo even opened his mouth btw.

>> No.79982564

>>79982484
jealousy mostly

>> No.79982587

>>79980718
it depends on the terms used in that model, some do allow it at your own risk, at this point people can troll her pretty bad if they feel like it.

>> No.79982614

>>79980859
Zoomer TIKTOKER "vtuber"

>> No.79982615

>>79982552
May I see it?

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>>79982520
I don't know if it's more or less retarded than her gacha spending habits

>> No.79982631

>>79980718
>Did Fillian really think
The answer is no. It probably never even crossed her mind that this could be a potentially bad thing.

>> No.79982658

>>79980389
Why the fuck would anyone even go with the vanilla Fillian model? Isn't it a free VR model? You can't fucking sell that shit as if its yours. Holy fuck there is some real brainrot involved here.

>> No.79982670

>>79980859
Zoomer retard.

>> No.79982683

>>79982615
>spoonfeed begging
Do your reps

>> No.79982746

>>79981603
sounds like the new was uglier.

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>>79982615
Sure, it's right here, I got this directly off the Rindo Booth page.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QxPH35idalnqYYCs9zS9DDuTvhNSfnOv/view

>> No.79982913

>>79982520
Not sure if its retarded at this point. I heard more about pippa this week than the whole last month, and its all about the twitter shit.
This seems to be pretty great marketing for her.

>> No.79982942

>>79981379
>This bitch will get destroyed in court
Based on all accounts

>> No.79982956
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>>79982868
Here's the other relevant portion. Jingo retains the IP rights.

>> No.79983060

You know it's bad when even little Miss $20k debt thinks she can chime in https://x.com/BunnyAyu/status/1809283671465025847

>> No.79983244

filian kids seething

>> No.79983252

>>79980718
I am more shocked that not a single company involved with her figure realized that she was using a free VRChat model. Filian doesn't have a clue about copyright law but usually these companies are more skeptical when dealing with vtubers. This will trigger some major policy changes because having to cancel the nendo because she never owned the merch rights is a bad look for everyone.

>> No.79983264

>>79983060
>thinks she can chime in
Oh, so you think someone's value of whether or not they can speak on a subject is determined by their financial status? You're classist.

>> No.79983348

>>79983060
Wait she hasn't left the internet? I figured she'd ditch that name and at least get another to find more AdmiralCuckroo's to leech off of.

>> No.79983381

>>79983252
I'm surprised by this as well. Do companies like GSC not have a thorough licencing process for every model that gets proposed?

>> No.79983400

>>79983264
she's a whorish bully who almost harassed multiple girls to suicide out of insecurity but go off king

>> No.79983429

>>79981692
Negotiations? Nigga she broke the law, she has to pay fines and is in no stance to haggle royalties. Jingo can force her to pay 100% of the profits and she can’t say no.

>> No.79983437

>>79983252
She had to have lied straight to their faces 10/10 times and said that she owned the model. Bad on them for not being more skeptical, but a number of those companies she merchandised with don't do much shit with vtubers. They're probably ignorant enough to see a Rindou model in the wild and think "oh a Filian fan model." GoodSmile though is somewhat surprising though. I thought they'd pick up on it at least.

>> No.79983453

>>79983348
She streams as herself and gets even more viewers than she did as a vtuber.

>> No.79983533

All the people trying to "defend" her by saying "yeah fuck artist they're entitled fucks because they want to eat!" are not doing her any favours.

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>>79980541
She doesn't need to she's owned by Mythic. They'll take care of it.

>> No.79983591

>>79983264
20k is not her financial status. It's the debt she left her figure artist with. Hence the irony of her commenting.

>> No.79983672

>>79981241
good now fuck off and kill yourself libfag

>> No.79983751

>>79983576
Bold of you to assume that Mythic is willing to enter a complicated and expensive legal case rather than simply cutting filian loose.

>> No.79983777

>>79981446
Avatar fagging is da rules pipnig

>> No.79983846

>>79983576
>We have decided to cut ties with Filian due to a difference in vision.

>> No.79983876

>>79982484
Dogpiling is the only thing that xitter culture has going for it

>> No.79983903

The artist is revoking Filian's rights to use the model now. If she continues to use it, she will be facing very serious consequences. In addition, any money made using Rindo model goes straight to Jingo. This is putting Filian in serious debt.

This is just the start of Filian's downfall mark my words.

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>>79983751
>>79983846
I'm sure the artists has hundreds of dollars to hire a lawyer and can't be paid off in a settlement.

>> No.79983977

>>79983400
King? I'm just an anonymous poster.

>> No.79983981

>>79981496
Meant to quote
>>79980847

>> No.79983987

>>79983252
Rindo is not a free model, it just gets pirated because VRC lets you do it easily.

>> No.79983999

>>79982956
>>79982868
This is not as slam dunk as you might think. This is a terms of use that despite its use of big scary words is not going to be legally enforceable in any significant way because it doesn't tether itself to any of the numerous available IP laws and licenses that could give it teeth. As a matter of fact there's a number of clauses in here that make this difficult to utilize beyond telling people "please stop you violated the agreement." Most likely Good Smile nopes the fuck out of this deal immediately because they're not going to fuck over a Japanese for a foreigner, but I stand by the fact that if both players here want this figurine to come out there's literally nothing the original creator can do to protect themselves.

>> No.79984011

>>79983751
Yea. Ok. Now that is reaching. Cutting off one of the highest earning Vtubers on the twitch platform. Not everyone is as retarded as Niji.

>> No.79984031

>>79980864
You're retarded.

>> No.79984106

>>79983918
Considering the case involves a nendroid and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars, he would probably be able to hire a lawyer for no money up front in exchange for a portion of the judgment.

>> No.79984146

>>79983999
"The creator will struggle to prosecute a foreigner" and "The creator doesn't have a proper terms of service" are two very different things.

>> No.79984147

>>79983400
proof or did you make it the fuck up like a nijinigger

>> No.79984190

>>79983999
I'm pretty sure terms of use and license's like these are a slam dunk. At least in coding unless specified ownership is implied. So when you take it to court this would be 200% in favor of the artist. Unless somehow Fil can convince the court that her taking a model someone else made, and monetizing it is perfectly A-Ok in the US.

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>>79980859
/vt/ likes vtubers?

>> No.79984306

>>79980864
That's not indie logic, that's just Filian being actually stupid

Every other indie commissions a unique design for exactly this reason

>> No.79984352

>>79980389
Filian doesn't even own her model, it's literally just a generic VR Chat skin anyone can use. How is this even allowed?

>> No.79984377

>>79984146
Correct. They are different things, and both true.

>>79984190
Well, I'm not likely to change your mind, but I don't think that's how any of that works.

>> No.79984434

>>79984240
vt is full of retard faggot antis that always have to look for the worst in everything like pathetic leeches

>> No.79984497

>>79980864
Indies aren't some collective. Just because one is retarded it doesn't mean all of them are.

>> No.79984592

>>79983999
>it doesn't tether itself to any of the numerous available IP laws
Totally irrelevant, it specifies who owns the rights and what permissions the license grants to the the licensee. You do not have to "tether" to relevant laws. The license does not have to specify specific sections of copyright law for that law to still apply.

>> No.79984629

>>79984306
That is indie logic. They will watch copyrighted movies live on stream because "I can just delete the vod lmao"

>> No.79984668

>>79984147
How the heck are you on vt and don't know about this?

>> No.79984697

>>79984106
Yeah these anons are retarded, a high profile case like this would have law firms fighting each other for the right to take this case for no up-front cost

>> No.79984735

>>79984377
You not liking a terms of service doesn't matter here, it's licensed under vn3 which you seem completely ignorant about.
https://www.vn3.org/

>> No.79984739

>>79984352
Why don't you read threads before replying like a retard?

>> No.79984789

>>79981697
Yeah but your answer was fucking stupid

>> No.79984816

>>79984434
Am I really an anti for truthfully stating that filian violated copyright law? My oshi gets shit on for a whole lot less and I don't see filfags defending her.

>> No.79984845
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>>79981130
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAH

>> No.79984856

>>79984592
No but you do have to have a legally binding contract if you want to defeat fair use in this situation.

>> No.79984867

>>79984106
Quite literally easy money for a lawyer, moreso if she pirated the model.

>> No.79984889

>>79984816
I wasn't talking about you

>> No.79984907

>>79984697
It's funny because Filian did it to two separate artists, and the other one straight up said the mint (lil fil) model can't be used for merch or in games

>> No.79984943

>>79984816
If you arent deepthroating Filians asshole and licking the spot where she flips on then yes you are a anti

>> No.79984961

>>79984377
I mean you are right, you are unlikely to change my mind on this, at least with this type of argument. Especially because I have seen stuff like >>79984735 and it seems that its the same as software license's, or licensing of written works. Where you have multiple ones and you can just apply one of them to your woks.
The question is does the artist actually have the money or the willpower to contest this in court.

>> No.79985015

>>79984735
It's an armchair lawyer who doesn't know what they're talking about, in all cases Filian is fucked just depends on how merciful the artists are.

>> No.79985076
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79985076

Filian inspired me to start vtubing. I was thinking of using this as my avatar. What do you guys think?

>> No.79985078

what a fucking idiot
imagine being that big and not getting an original model/design by now

>> No.79985080

>>79984697
>high profile case like this
I don't think many lawyers really want to go into a high profile case across multiple countries, especially one like japan which is notorious for their english expertise. Just because its a slam dunk, does not mean its going to be pleasant.

>> No.79985086

The real question is how many money would you suck out of this retarded bitch if you were the owner? This sounds like a fucking wet dream free money.

>> No.79985095

>>79983999
Disagree, but consider that even if what you said was the case and there is nothing he can do it to protect himself it would still be momentously stupid for them to do it at this point. They'd get raked over the coals.

>> No.79985096

>>79980389
Sucks being an indie. So much hate among fans.

>> No.79985133

>>79980859
I don't hate Filian she's just retarded for not switching to another model already

>> No.79985152

>>79985076
Can I make a nendo?

>> No.79985165

>>79985086
All of it. He JUST found out and only about the nendo. He didn't even know about the other merch she had that she also never contacted him about

>> No.79985226

>>79984856
>fair use
Stop talking about things you do not understand.

>> No.79985225

filian really is just a special kind of dumb isn't she?
still like her and all, but damn.

>> No.79985282

>>79985086
As much as I can legally get?

>> No.79985302
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>>79984856
>fair use

>> No.79985323

>>79983576
They aren't gonna do shit, Filian doesn't even have a manager

>> No.79985407

>>79984629
Are they selling the VOD on DVD like some kinda MST3K shit?
No?
Yeah, exactly.

>> No.79985465

>>79985323
How does the biggest vtuber in mythic not have a manager there?

>> No.79985520

>>79985465
Because it's a glorified mailing list for sponsors

>> No.79985535

>>79984106
And you think the lawyer isn't going to aim for a settlement!? They want to get a quick buck too you know.

>> No.79985624

>>79984856
What? No.
If I create something, I immediately own the copyright, without registering it, without writing any contract.
If you steal what I created and start selling it, you are violating intellectual property law.
But the best thing is, Rindo does have a legally binding contract, vn3, which was created in collaboration with a registered attorney who is currently employed by the Japanese government for IP work.
https://www.vn3.org/staff

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>>79985520
I'm sure night media is really hands off.

>> No.79985704

>>79984629
Explains why all filian viewers are retarded as fuck

>> No.79985776
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79985776

>>79980389
JINGO DON'T LOOK

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>>79981379
Absolute moron tier my sides will be in orbit if she get sued into oblivion.

>> No.79985866

>>79984352
it isn't. that's the whole situation.

>> No.79985912

>>79981724
…anon it’s $200

>> No.79985922

>>79985535
If the parties are smart, there'll be a quick settlement, yes. But maybe they're not smart. There's also a significant change Goodsmiles gets spooked and just cancels the nendo.

>> No.79986126

>>79985776
>Look mom I PUT BLEACH INTO MY EYES ARENT I SMORT
Retard.

>> No.79986210

>>79985776
>No gadgets.
>No peculiar hairstyle
>No bells
Yeah.

>> No.79986448

>>79981931
When have they ever given a shit? Any collab partner is fair game to them.

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>> No.79987040
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>>79986989

>> No.79987055

>>79985076
that hair is a nightmare for greenscreen
try making it blue, most popular vtubers have blue hairs anyway

>> No.79987100

>>79982126
>he doesn't know

>> No.79987104

>>79987055
Use purplescreen.

>> No.79987160

>>79987104
His cock is purple

>> No.79987169

This just makes me think "creatives" and "artists" are the most parasitic and toxic people in this industry

>> No.79987200

>>79987169
How? All she had to do was ask.

>> No.79987233

I love how if this were discovered about some current hololive vtuber who used to be an Indie, it would be the yab of the millenia, but because it's Filian, 4ch gives her a pass.

You people are such retarded hacks.

>> No.79987283

>>79987233
>4ch gives her a pass
what thread are you reading?

>> No.79987342

>>79987169
Isn't the parasite the one who's profiting from the actual productive person i.e. the artist?

>> No.79987413

>>79981130
Good Smile owns 4chan supposedly so they can build profiles of posters to determine what merch to make, so I'm surprised Pippa doesn't have one already.

>> No.79987433

>>79987342
Top 10 truths that will blow your mind.

>> No.79987531

>>79981228
Last time I saw Filian she was getting hanged by Mari Mari underscore EN. Apparently they don't have to take it.

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79987583

>>79981010
>so small that they aren't worth pursuing
Start a list

>> No.79987709

>>79980859
She's cringe

>> No.79987718

>>79987583
this is toei sponsored stream btw

>> No.79987794

I don't understand how Fillian at this point is already pretty well of but never thought about getting her own

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This related?

>> No.79987832

>>79981241
didn't she make fun of the non-breathing stupid nigger? I thought she was based.

>> No.79987971

>>79980389
anyways im sure filian can flip things around

>> No.79988092

>>79987794
VRChatters are too used to using free shit.

>> No.79988272

>>79981003
Am I the only Holofag that gets upset at edits like these? The whole point of idol culture is to be endlessly positive. Seeing petty negativity injected into an idol concert feels almost sacrilegious, like drawing surgery scars on Jesus Christ’s chest to support trans rights. It just feels like whoever makes those edits cannot be a fan of the actual idol company.

It’s also why Hololivers themselves have never taken shots at NijiEN like Twitch chuubas do, because they have an idol reputation to maintain.

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>>79988272
0/10 flaseflagging. Apply yourself.

>> No.79988499

>>79987820
CUUUUUURSEEEE YOOOOUUUUU BAAAAAAYYYLLLEEEEEEEE

>> No.79988508

>>79981303
>>79982614
>>79982670
>>79987709
Biboo?

>> No.79988521

Fillian should have gone with a Chinese company they could care less who owns what unless the creator was Chinese than it becomes OUR money

>> No.79988611

>>79987160
Damn anon you might be infringing on the copyrights of a certain doctor then

>> No.79988641

>>79980541
I highly doubt that lol

>> No.79988720

>>79988521
Based.
Fillian in EN5 soon

>> No.79989734

>>79988366
Can you refute my point about Hololive talents never taking shots at Niji because they want to keep a positive image? A single clip would suffice

>> No.79989903

>>79988272
No, I also don't like it. I exclusively watch Hololive but I grew out of console war bullshit like two decades ago

>> No.79990245

>>79980859
/vt/ hates vtubers just like /v/ hates video games.
It's simply the 4chan culture.

>> No.79990319

>>79980389
I'm surprised it even got this far desu

>> No.79990503

>>79990245
Nah, most retards here love Holos and some indies. It's shitters like the eternal 2views that are almost universally hated.

>> No.79990818

>>79988272
anon you come to a board where people edit fubuki with bags under her eyes and a gun to her mouth, people edit fauna or yagoo happily lifting up a noose, they edit "please be patient I have autism" hats onto everyone, they completely make up fanfiction about ame and ina killing each other and being depressed about it
just be thankful /hlgg/ doesnt represent anything other than itself

>> No.79991519
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79991519

>>79980389
isn't "little Fil" custom enough to count as an OC? Whey did she abandon that model and go back to the Jingo one? Or she should stream with the Jingo model and sell little Fil merch.

>> No.79991569

I can't believe she was this fucking stupid.

>> No.79991806
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>>79991519
Theres a top vtuber on twitch (korean, which is why you never hear the numbermonkeys talk about her) which uses that exact same model
No it is not. Also she never gave filian permission to use that model for merch or a game

>> No.79992157

>>79980389
there isn't anything funny about copyright infringements

>> No.79992243

>>79980389
>retarded loudmouth thief
I guess she really is a Flip

>> No.79992430

>>79980389
>Zoomer is retarded and still doesn't understand how to world works
Maybe big Corpos taking forever to do anything because they need to make sure all their perms are in order makes sense now huh?

>> No.79992484

I have learned that when you become a vtuber, laws and rules no longer apply to you once you're popular enough. Models become yours if the artist doesn't actively seek you out.

>> No.79992554

>>79989734
Nta, but I remember watching a clip of Nerissa talking about bullying and how she's lucky to be accepted in hololive when the whole Selen fiasco was happening

>> No.79992743

>>79980541
She literally responded to the tweet the artist of her model made with “oh no”

>> No.79992832

>>79991519
No.

>> No.79992840

Compared to the Youtube comment sections, you guys seem to have a relatively good grasp of the law.
I ain't even being sarcastic.

>> No.79992863

>>79992743
That was a fake image. She responded to the goodsmile tweet about the nendo with that
Source: literally fucking open her twitter you retard

>> No.79992966

>>79992863
mad ligger nigger

>> No.79993048

>>79988272
>HoloLIVERS
Whatever you say falseflagger-kun

>> No.79993089

>>79980859
trend hopping zoomer grifter buzzwords but unironically. she is a prime example of why vtubing should have stayed in the east

>> No.79993107

>>79980389
uhoh

>> No.79993179

>>79988272
>The whole point of idol culture is to be endlessly positive
you are thinking of traditional/old school idols
>hololivers
no holofags uses this word sis you started good but dropped the ball hard on your disguise nijinigger

>> No.79993200

>>79980859
4chan in general is a venting forum.

faggot.

>> No.79995250

>>79980508
>Flips
>Lands in a courtoom

>> No.79995394

>>79992840
As a fucking peruANO not!chuuba put it, unlike other communities, this hellhole, while also filled with the underage menace, also has people of all kind of backgrounds lurking.

>> No.79995762

>>79992840
youtube comments are like 50% children. filian's fandom probably is at least that much too actually so it's no surprise they put on a clownshow attempting to defend her or talk seriously about anything. these are retard children watching the funny screamy girl, they don't know anything about anything, and don't comprehend that if Jingo felt like it he has filian dead to rights already. she fucked up in ways you wouldn't even think should have been possible for someone with more than like 50 viewers, let alone thousands like she actually has.

IMO what'll likely happen is he just wants a cut of the merch although I dunno how Japanese law would handle it, maybe he'd just get a settlement. I guess all we can be sure of is filian will be getting a new model (that she actually owns) soon, like real fuckin' soon.

>> No.79995845

>>79982484
Hypocrisy

>> No.79996015

>>79991519
No
https://booth.pm/en/items/2258111

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79996424

>>79981003
That's more of a cartwheel than a flip

>> No.79996633

>>79980794
The artist did say they contacted goodsmile and Filian directly in messages, now we just have to wait and see how they respond

>> No.79996754

>>79996633
I predict that Goodsmile will retract the nendo but Filian will ignore it but cry on twitter

>> No.79996906

>>79984147
Anon this was one of the biggest sources of drama in 2022. Unironically do your reps

>> No.79997810

>>79991519
Little Filian is even funnier because that's by a completely different artist who also doesn't allow physical merch. So that's 2 different artists whose terms of use she's broken.

>> No.79998389

>>79980389
Lotta gleeful sisters /here/ think this shit is going to end Filian. As if the two sides will jump into an international lawsuit rather than just come to an agreement that maybe involves a payout and a model change. She'll be back to befriending your Niji exiles in no time.

>> No.79998768

>>79988272
>It’s also why Hololivers-
>Hololivers
nijinigger exposed

>> No.79998969

>>79987169
>artist makes art for (You) to be able to erp with your discord bf in vrc
>filian takes it and starts nonetizing it despite the usage terms being very clear
how is the artist the parasite here? why couldnt filian be like every other normal person and get a real model? no one has ever had the issue of using a model they lack perms for to produce a fucking nendoroid, that is peak lazy money hungry leech behavior

>> No.80001800

>>79980389
She'll be ok

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https://poal.me/hhpzj9
https://poal.me/hhpzj9
https://poal.me/hhpzj9
https://poal.me/hhpzj9

>> No.80002545

>>79980389
Filian waited too long to get an original model and changing will be pretty.

>> No.80002830

>>80002545
difficult since everyone know her as the white haired Rindo.

>> No.80003404

>>79980859
Success breeds jealousy

>> No.80004447

>>79983429
That would be retarded. It's better to reach an agreement so that Filian can keep using her iconic model while artist keeps getting royalties in the future.
Negotiations are always better than court.

>> No.80004618

>>79981761
That is not how copyright works in the US

>> No.80004646

>>80004447
It sure would have been better but that ship fucking sailed when she knowingly went behind the artist's back and made merch without his permission.

>> No.80004654

>>79984856
If contract isn't breaking laws, it's perfectly valid according to law.
You're being stupid.

>> No.80004805

>>80004646
I think it can still be settled if she agrees to pay up and agree to future revenue split. But yeah it depends on good will of the artist.

>> No.80005003

>>79985787
anon-chama... women don't face consequences... nothing will happen

>> No.80005123

>>80005003
>women don't face consequences
A rich woman recently got the death penalty in Vietnam for fraud. not related to this at all, but make a general statement, you get responses like this

>> No.80005293

>>80004805
Negotiations are for before you try stupid shit, not after you already got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. She already got her permissions revoked by one artist, there's no reason for jingo to go easy on her. These 3D models are these artist's livelihoods, that's not something you fuck around with. She spent that goodwill and betrayed their trust. She straight up fucked up.

>> No.80005308

>>79982187
>woman won't face consequences and will be rewarded even further for being in the wrong
you say this like it's an unexpected outcome

>> No.80005513

I know it's reactions split between vt, twitter, youtube etc etc, but how are people so genuinely retarded about this?
Cover didn't go after 'not-rushia' for the blatant infringement, niji hasn't come for doki despite all the seething... even for antis, how are they that mentally stunted?
There is no reality in which the most likely outcome of this /isn't/ that filian, gsc and the artists come to an agreement - GSC doesnt' want drama, filian and the artists don't have the money to make it worth going for blood, and all parties stand to gain from just working it out

>> No.80005524

>>80005123
she stole from goverment

>> No.80006153

>>79983999
The terminology and context is sound enough especially with the fair use of it that if it is the first precedence in court the company and creator will win easily.

>> No.80006347

>>80006153
If they absolutely wanted to shut this deal down, they could - for the model that they have enough legally distinct control over.
And then GSC could just "lol. lmao. we'll use one of the models of hers that are so legally distinct you can't touch us, let alone ask for profits"
There is absolutely no value to anybody involved for the artists to go for a shutdown.

>> No.80006391

man, filian is stupid but that fucked up stupid huh...

>> No.80006448

>>79984961
Back pedal harder fag just be upfront if you are clueless not a lying idiot trying to sound smart by being contrary.

>> No.80006519

>>79985086
If he is smart he would lawyer up for all of it.

>> No.80006568

>>80006347
anon GSC is a JP company. They're not going to side with fil if the hurt party is a JP artist.
The fuck are you smoking to think this will happen? And to think any of her models are legally distinct enough is plain delusional.

>> No.80006657

GSC tweet got deleted, it's actually over

>> No.80006741

>>79985078
It's mind boggling when you take into account that even 500 viewer vtubers have their own 3d models

>> No.80006827

>>79995762
Imagine how many little boys got their first boner looking at filian's ass and cameltoe. At least one good thing came out of this.

>> No.80007005

>>80006347
>>80006657
Good Smile Company is a huge global distributor of anime goods and one of the major Japanese leading companies for anime products at the luxury standard.

>> No.80007018

>>80006657
welp. so much for settling.

>> No.80007068

>>80006657
So what does this mean now?

>> No.80007149

>>80007018
It was always going to happen

>> No.80007170

>>80007068
The deal is obviously off and filian should be praying that the model's author doesn't take legal action against her.

>> No.80007270

>>79992554
How odd. Because I remember Nerissa appearing in Reimu's 3D debut.

>> No.80007815

>>80007170
If I was Filian I'd be more concerned about Good Smile taking legal action.

>> No.80008018

>>79980389
>they
community note invalidated

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