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The Phoenixland Empire

Schedule: soon onegai...

Art by: https://twitter.com/ZN40946374/status/1423851291906740224

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https://twitter.com/ll_yun_ll/status/1426514334281191425

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>> No.7979945

Please tell me there's a lot of art of her showing off her armpits.

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Hooah

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Forgot the twintails, but still cute!

https://twitter.com/Rainbow3Pie14/status/1426977852629602304

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Thanks for the participation last thread. The enemy has been thwarted with our newly acquired allies, Botania and the Angelic Order (not pictured).
The outcome of the war? Cometopia has been split into four annexed territories. The deadbeat-occupied territory is showing danger of splitting, for its conquerors are sympathetic to its residents and their former leader. Our relationship with the Underworld is also a bit rocky because of the pogrom of the doxxbeats. The territory occupied by Botania is stable and it is set to produce the most try-hard gaming chuubas the world has ever seen.
What will become of this new world order? Well, that is a story for another day.

>> No.7980330

>>7980196
I wish some one autistic enough makes this a mod for EU4 or HOI

>> No.7980345

>>7980196
The deadbeats only put 5% of their effort into fighting. Jointly we surrond thier homeland and would do good taking a firmer grip. After all they have been in contact with extraterrestrial forces from the Milky Way.

However I suggest a cultural take over. Invest in their industry and feed a dependency. Sparks can easily take over their wigger minds.

>> No.7980430

>>7980136
cute

>> No.7980456

Schedule doko...

>> No.7980494

>>7980109
Cringe.

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>>7980345
You're right. Why spend precious resources into warfare when we can simply attain cultural victory through conversion to Sparks?

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>> No.7980914

>>7980456
It's up

>> No.7981063

>>7980914
Not that anon, but thanks for the heads up! If anyone else is looking for it, it's a members community post on Youtube.

Looks like the tech support she got during today's members stream was helpful...

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>> No.7981258

>>7980196
I wonder, with the further half of Underworldia on the brink, perhaps another series of checkpoints should be made to ensure that the less sympathetic deadbeats can't slip in and cause damage to either our lovely nation, or the newly conquered fraction of Cometopia

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>Tales
>Zelda
>Gartic
I sleep.

>> No.7981281

>>7981219
Kiara the point of the "am" series is turning into things you normally aren't...

>> No.7981304

>>7980914
>>7980456
This weeks looks amazing, I'm pretty excited about the weekend in particular.

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>>7981266
>tales demo
>mamatori collab
>haachama holotalk
>gartic phone with ID, JP and EN members

Next week is going to kino, faggot.

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>>7981258
We'll take this up with Kiara, I'm sure she can appreciate our concern given her recent experiences in Papers, Please.
Also, on a semi-related note, I really love Cristina Manzanita's idea of using pic related as inspiration for the look of the capital city of Phoenixland. This makes me want to see full-blown background/environment art of a hypothetical Kiara/KFP nation.

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>>7981266
>Mamatori collab
>Exclusive test play a month before release
REAL SHIT?!
God I hate normie memes so much

>> No.7981546

>>7981455
>Exclusive test play a month before release of a generic boring JRPG
Really exciting, thank you.

>> No.7981622

>>7981546
It's more about seeing Kiara in the role of an ambassador showcasing exclusive content that's gonna be interesting to see

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We've got more KFP heraldry
Best part of the Amenews stream was definitely the Hololive continent inspiring all the grand strategy nerds on this board
Here's hoping SOMEONE plays a strategy game soon...

>> No.7981703

>>7981546
>Exclusive test play a month before release of a sponsorship your oshi is very hyped about
Just enjoy her enjoying it, faggot.

>> No.7981922

>>7981703
I will. But I wish she'd always mix up her schedule with something new/exciting.

>> No.7981966

>>7981688
GSG is a hard sell for a stream. I feel like the best ideas would be to copy that Stellaris Cold War event Paradox did, and make it a giant role play collab with girls who can’t or don’t want to play act as partners to the players.

>> No.7981968

>>7981922
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the Mamatori collab, that's the exciting thing this week. If she didn't have that then yeah sure

>> No.7981998

>>7981966
Yeah, that's true. But honestly grand strategy, as dull as it may be to actually watch sometimes, would still be a step up from JRPGs/SS in our case at least.

>> No.7982266

What I want most is Kiara playing a fighting game, but I know she'd never invest the time to actually get even remotely decent, and at best it'd be like Mori who refuses to learn anything and just boots up the game so she can get trashed by her fans once a month or so.

>> No.7982471

>>7982266
I know nothing about fighting games but Dead or Alive and Senran Kagura have hot chicks so those are probably the only ones she'd consider playing
Even though I'd personally prefer something like Mortal Kombat or King of Fighters (based on designs of characters)

>> No.7982537

>>7982266
>Kiara has built a partnership with Namco
>Will be Tekken 8 ambassador

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>Chimken was sending Subaru her vacation photos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo0sLyU75_8
Cute.

>> No.7982577

>>7982471
Not sure if I'd call Senran Kagura a fighting game... but all fighting games have hot chicks, is's basically a requirement. Dead or Alive is just a lot more blatant about it in their marketing.

>> No.7982733

>>7982266
she played Virtua Fighter for a few minutes in the middle of Yakuza

>> No.7982792

>>7982733
Wasn't that for like an hour?

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>>7982577
I just realized that my fighting game waifu is Kula Diamond, yet my oshi is Kiara.
Fire and ice...

>> No.7982836

>>7982574
From what I understand, Kiara stays in touch with a lot of her JP holo friends. I bet she sent those pictures to several of them. Nene certainly. Even A-chan, maybe.

>> No.7982898

>>7982733
Got a clip of that or know which Yakuza part that was?

>> No.7983028

>>7982898
https://youtu.be/sS7RYVfgMwk?t=15729

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ENTER

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>>7983028
Holy shit, my sides.

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HEY LISTEN

>> No.7984971

Just getting through Azki Holotalk and there's a moment where Kiara says "People say my talkshow is better than any American talk show, but I feel like that might be a little bit of a stretch". Little does she know how fucking low the bar is.
Anyone have that Holotalk Eric Andre webm? That's probably be the only late night talk show that could beat out Holotalk.
Also, hearing an actual singer sing things similar to Kiara's choices reminds me of how average she actually is at singing. Sorry Kiara, I love you and your produced work, but your voice for singing is only so good doubly limited by your setup

>> No.7985142

>>7984971
>spoiler
That's probably why her karaokes are probably my least favorite content from her
Unarchived ones could be good if the song selection is decent though. Boomer karaoke was enjoyable

>> No.7985245

>>7984971
This is the only thing I could find.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jz54u9/how_i_honestly_expected_holotalk_to_start/

>> No.7985279

>>7985245
That's exactly what I was looking for. I remember someone crammed it into a webm to post around here. Maybe I'll do that again.

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>>7982823
>tfw my fightan waifu will never come back

>> No.7985604

>>7985383
Nice hat

>> No.7985720

>>7984971
I'm kind of surprised she hasn't been doing vocal reps, honestly. I believe she still wants to be recognized for her music?

>> No.7985782

>>7985720
She's stuck in a weird place where she wants to stream all the time lest her fanbase leave her behind, but also simultaneously wants to be acknowledged as a singer
She can't have both and I would rather she axed the LoZ/JRPG playthrough streaming slot so that she can do reps instead

>> No.7985835

>>7985782
Anon it's not like she doesn't have time in the day before or after streaming. If she isn't doing vocal reps now, she's not gonna do them just because she has some extra hours a week.

>> No.7985934

>>7985835
Yes but you also need to account for
>Netflix watching
>cat petting
>lasagna eating
>egosearching
And she ain't gonna stop doing any of those

>> No.7986002

People do we really have to do this in the kiara thread. Her voice isn't perfect, but why should it be. There is no one correct way to sing. Let her sing the way she wants.

I can't imagine loving kiara and letting 4chan antis pressure you into saying you dont like her singing. y'all are weak.

>> No.7986052

>>7986002
Where else are we going to discuss Kiara's singing? In /wah/?

>> No.7986099

>>7986052
obviously its the way you are talking about it and not the fact that you are talking about it

>> No.7986144

>>7985934
And that's exactly why if she cut down on streaming it'd just go into one of those.

>> No.7986191

>>7986099
Well I wouldn't be taking it so seriously if Kiara didn't bring up the subject herself. She even complained that clips of her singing were getting low views.
If she can embrace soulful singing like Ame and just have fun, then sure, there's nothing to discuss. But obviously she hasn't given up completely yet

>> No.7986203

>>7986002
Oh get THE ABSOLUTE FUCK out of here you safezone turbonigger, people criticize something about Kiara in an entirely civilized and positive manner and that's when you think
"OH NO I MUST STOP THIS"?
Please neck yourself at your earliest convenience, but I somehow suspect you dropped dead the instant you read the word 'nigger'.
Faggot.

>> No.7986221

>>7985934
you forgot milkshake drinking

>> No.7986328

Dont agree on the voice she can sound great.
Not doing reps is another thing, maybe it's some form of cope? No effort means no expectation on the end result. Whole bunch of effort and money and it just turns out "ok", while am zoo destroyed the frairy tales videos.
Hoping the con panels and the improvised dokomi concert will keep the dream of her going all in for 3D streams alive.

>> No.7986366

>>7986203
I wouldnt if you werent an absolute dumbass talking like there's one right way to sing and she needs to do "vocal reps" to fit some generic-ass good singing voice.

keep seething

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>>7986203
Why does Kiara bring out such anger in people?
I frequent /morig/ and all the deadbeats are chill and cool even when they timeloop. But over here, the slightest transgression is met with unironic seethe, name-calling and death threats.

>> No.7986414

>>7986191
she obviously is having fun though.

>> No.7986434

>>7985720
I wonder if something happened in the past.
Kiara has said multiple times she doesn't really believe in voice coaches and has already said that it doesn't matter how much you train you can't get any better. She's one of the people who think either you're naturally gifted or you will always be mediocre.

>> No.7986465

>>7986434
to be fair, she's done a fuck ton with voice coaches pre-kiara

>> No.7986490

>>7986366
Jesas the sheer cope.
Nigger singing isn't that subjective, there's a lot of metrics to judge someone on. Especially when they're singing a cover, which has specific notes they're aiming for.

>> No.7986552

>>7986395
How do you even define unironic seethe on vt? When someone writes an essay? Because aside from that calling people faggots, niggers, trannies, eggs, telling them to kill themselves... it's basically lingo.

>> No.7986639

>>7986490
it is that subjective though. basically about as subjective as art gets. you're weak as shit and you aren't gonna look cool to 4chan by acting like this sorry bro.

>> No.7986833

>>7986552
It's when you can just tell the other person is absolutely fuming
In the words of my 2nd favorite Austrian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R39e30FL37U

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Great news everyone, I'm a dad now!
Here's my wife and my precious newborn daughter

>> No.7987009

>>7986395
Just look for the sulfur smell, they tried earlier in global and went way too hard.
New tactic is one exaggerates his anti posts to keep folks busy and another tries to slide in some low level "criticism" and build up evidence/narratives.
See last thread(maybe?) about the views, started reasonable enough and went to wishful thinking "her channel is dieing" etc, maybe edit some jp screenshots too.
So stupid once they get called out, everybody just ignores negative comments till it's over, cue egg whining about hugboxes again.

>> No.7987185

Complaining about some misses in performances is okay, but Jesus, you guys treat her like she sings as awful as me, while that's far from the case. Hell, I'd argue she can even give Gura a run for her money with how big and varied her range is, but yet again that goes unnoticed because Kiara is a generalist in a specialist world.

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>>7986983
>tfw kiara wants a daughter so bad
>admits to getting excited to meeting someone name klara irl
>babies gura
>babies her cats

We need to knock her up. It's the only way to save her

>> No.7987258

Gura just brought up Kiara and said she wants to see her play a horror game. She says she'll suggest it on discord!

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>> No.7987331

>>7986639
>thinking people are trying to "look good"
Go back to back to whatever faggot social media you came from.
But also what are you even talking about.
If your voice has a lower range than someone else's it's worse, that's not subjective. You can have worse pitch. You can have weaker lungs. And beyond just natural born capabilities you can be bad at hitting or mantaining notes.
If you're trying to do something and failing, it can't just be defended as "subjectively good". If you wanna compare art and music, singing a cover poorly is equivalent to trying to copy a drawing but getting a bunch of lines crooked and painting outside of them.

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>>7986002
The one thing I wish she'd fix is how her mic sounds when she raises her voice, it gets shrill whenever the volume is high. I feel like it kinda got fixed for a bit after Ame gave her new settings to use (around the We Were Here collab, I think), but then either the settings were just a placebo or they got reverted somehow, because now it sounds the same.

It's fine when she's just streaming normally (and makes her screams even funnier), but it really hurts her singing streams for me. Still never miss 'em cause I love how much fun she has when singing.

>>7986983
Grats, Forest.

>>7987258
Go Gura go! Pressure that birb!

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>>7987258
>tfw I want to see Kiara being a scaredy-cat but I'm also a scaredy-cat and can't watch horror games

>> No.7987414

She also mimicked the way Kiara says "Gura" and said it makes her feel special. Really cute.

>> No.7987423

>>7987297
Me on the drums!

>> No.7987474

>>7987360
>Grats, Forest.
Can anyone here edit the child's hair color to look orange instead of pink?

>> No.7987479

>>7987361
Maybe try not watching the screen? Or cutting it off/covering it up so you only see Kiara.

>> No.7987811

>>7987331
>If you're trying to do something and failing, it can't just be defended as "subjectively good".
That can be true, but only if you know what the exact purpose of a song is. For your cover song example, its a take i guess but its also a pretty fucking boring outlook on music. I don't know about you, but all my favorite covers songs out there do something interesting instead of regurgitating the exact same everything from the original song out of fear of doing it wrong.
Certain objective metrics do exist, sure, but they literally don't matter unless dumbasses give them more power than you should.
Hate to break it to you but you have like an american idol outlook on singing.

>> No.7987945

>watching one of chimkin's older minecraft vids
>she starts talking about keeping things entertaining for viewers even if you don't have many
>comments on how you should remember to keep some humanity in your performance even if you're trying to play a character of some sort
>calls out sydsnap's shit performance by character concept (alien that came to earth to make lots of babies)
>does a fair job of feigning innocence afterwards
holy shit, tenchou is more based than I thought. guess I know where part of the antis came from.

>> No.7987963

>>7987185
The thing is Kiara is a good singer, but her insistence on singing with the chicken voice limits her a lot.

>> No.7988116

>>7987811
Yes but when they take a different approach to a cover that's a stylistic choice.
When someone is trying to sing it normally, and failing, that's not really the same.

>> No.7988298

>>7980109
based

>> No.7988337

>>7985383
She may come back for 15.
>>7982823
Kiara unironically prefers cold over heat and fire though. Are you me? I thought the same thing

>> No.7988378

>>7987361
I think the best way to do a horror game for Kiara, would be as a TBFP or Game Grumps style thing, where she plays and the other girl is there for support/banter. Didn’t Watame and AZKi just do that for one of those Chillas kusoge?

>> No.7988447

>>7980109
Based oji-grunt.

>> No.7988509

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Yx9TuE09A
This is still Kiara's best song by far, and a tragedy that it will never reach 1M like all others

At least its a little more than 1K away from 300K

>> No.7988972

Kiara revives a village, builds a wall to protect them from raiders, improves the economy and builds a highway THEN Ame and Gura keep breaking things, letting villagers out all becuase she can't be bothered to press a button for the door and now has a giant eyesore on her highway. Ame, if you want to build signs, GET GRAPHING PAPER AND PLAN IT, this "3D mind printer" crap is getting a bit annoying How difficult is it to make a triangle?

>> No.7989047

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EIB57Ry1RA

did she think guns were bows?

>> No.7989073

>>7988972
Have Kiara, Ame or Gura reacted at all to the Pheonixton Massacre?

>> No.7989223

>>7989073
I dont think any of them know anything went wrong, maybe @ her a timestamp on twitter

>> No.7989256

>>7989047
If only she used a magical blunderbuss like Linkara.

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>>7989073
the fucking what now

Did the two boneheads destroy her village?

Is tetsuo okay?

>> No.7989643

>>7979856
If we want Vtubing to keep growing, Kiara needs to graduate ASAP or people might see her stream and be repulsed with the whole Vtubers thing

>> No.7989644

>>7989047
It might be more normal for yuros to know literally nothing about guns.

>> No.7989680

>>7989634
I think Tetsuo SPECIFICALLY was the one named villager who died.
Not sure, haven't watched Gura or Ame's stream.

>> No.7989689

>>7979856
God she is so fucking annoying, how can you guys actually like this? KFP are really retarded huh?

>> No.7989717

>>7989644
That excuse doesn’t quite fly with Austrians, they have one of the highest rates of gun ownership in Europe, and I think there are more unregistered guns in the country than registered.

>> No.7989872

>>7986395
I honestly don't get it man.
Kiara will hit her 1 year very soon and despite this there's still people that do nothing but hate her, its absolutely insane to me, a lot of it is the same stale bullshit to.

I really hope she doesn't or will ever see that crap, she doesn't deserve any off it.

>> No.7989997

>>7989680
Isn't he underground right now, unable to go to the surface? Ironically he might be the safest in Phoenixton from outside forces.

>> No.7990119

>>7989073
Did I miss something? What did those 2 do?

>> No.7990163

>>7989997
>>7989680

If him or any of the good iron or mending villagers die I can see her throwing a gasket. I hope for all their sake, the villages don't go too far off, considering Mamatori collab is the next time she's going to log into minecraft.

>> No.7990173

>>7989643
I as most of the Vtuber community, agree

>> No.7990331

>>7989717
Just because there are guns around doesnt mean she should know shit about them. And she grew up as a sheltered nerd with girly interests, how was any of her interest going to intersect with muh guns?

>> No.7990345

>>7990163
Do you mean if any of the VILLAGERS go too far off? I thought all the ones that had gotten away had died on-stream. Gura and Ame just... didn't notice. At least that's what they said on the last thread... or maybe the one before that.

>> No.7990382

>>7990331
It's not about having a deep understanding or interest in guns, just about knowing how they operate in the most basic level. If guns are a common thing in your country you'd probably at least hear bits and piece here and there over the course of your life, either in conversation, news, media...

>> No.7990425

>>7987297
Chickens

>> No.7990476

>>7990382
>life, conversations
no friends outside of weeb stuff
>news
She doesn't seems to be the type to be interest in news outside of what her friends (weebs) would talk about
>media
The media she consumes in basic bitch shit + idol stuff. Can't get further away from guns unless you go hippie.

>> No.7990512

>>7990345
do you have a timestamp? I want to see what happened, last time a single villager scape (mori and gura's collab) she freaked out

>> No.7990558

>>7990331
Sorry, I should rephrase. I don’t expect her to know about guns, but Austrians are more likely to know about them than other Euros.

>> No.7990627

>>7990476
Anon, you might not rembember, but kids have families, and go to school. They literally cannot converse or hear only about their own interests, even if they wanted to.

>> No.7990681

>>7986395
I'm just confused because the convo started from me talking about thinking that Azki reminded me that while Kiara is a fine singer, she's not in the same league as a professional. inb4 BUT SHE WAS!
I love Kiara and support her doing her karaokes, but I would not want one every week.

>> No.7990787

>>7990627
She was bullied in school anon, the only people she talked with were the unpopular kids and even then why would any of her basic bitch friends bring guns out of nowhere to a basic girly conversation about BFs and their shit taste in music. Not everyone is as obsessed with guns as Americans, even in countries with gun ownership
>>7990558
She's not an ordinary Australian ;) so I'm not surprised she doesn't know shit about guns

>> No.7990837

>>7990681
Well it always escalates because, by Kiara's own admission, she wants to be known for her music, in a competitive professional enviroment. So people end up holding her to the higher standards she herself is setting up.

>> No.7990846

>>7990681
I would want one every week if they were like Coco's where she's just having fun singing.

>> No.7990895

>>7990837
Kiara needs to step away from the idol shit if she wants this IMO.
Also she needs to pull a Towa and drop the voice when she sings.

>> No.7990932

>>7990787
...Anon did you ever talk to girls in school? But nevermind that.
People talk about any number of things, just to pass time. Often about whatever is hot, especially if she was an outcast and didn't have actual friends. Think about like this split anon, there's not enough topic to JUST talk about the things you like all the time. And even if she's bullied that doesn't mean she'll never hear or participate in conversation with others. Also being an outcast in school isn't the same everywhere as it is for you burgers.

...But anyways this is all to say that it's was extremely unlikely for Kiara to get this old without even knowing the absolute most basic level of an important tool in modern society. But it happened. And it's kinda weird, and I don't think she has any good reasons for it, it was just freak happenstance.

>> No.7990941

>>7990846
She does have fun, but the problem is she occasionally talks about this >>7990837 in regards to her singing capabilities and while I'm not trying to shit all over Kiara, she just ain't gonna actually cut it in the 'real' singing world. It's why I got in an argument when she mentioned wishing she could have auditioned for the vsinger slot. I want her to use Hololive as a springboard for ears on her music, but I think it's a bit unrealistic given where she's at, what she's doing, and the level of musical talent that she has to expect something grander in the scope of musicians to come her way.

>> No.7991043

>>7990932
Dude, people don't understand how basic, every day used items in their lives work, let alone guns. I think it's a little over the top to think that everyone should know how a gun works.

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>>7990382
>>7990627
America has the highest per capita ownership of guns in the world and you can still easily find people who know nothing about guns. I say that from experience as a gun-owning murican. Hell, I recall a news article from a while back where an Iraqi (?) woman claimed US troops had shot at her home and she was pictured with the bullets that were shot into her home... only the bullets still had their casings. That's a woman in a war zone, interviewed by a journalist in a war zone, and neither had any clue how guns worked.

In short, Kiara doesn't know shit about guns and that happens sometimes.

>>7989997
Thank god she entombed Tetsuo with a friend last stream.

>> No.7991073

>>7990932
Anon please, I'm a grown ass man and I don't know shit about guns either other than they go pew pew, because I don't like in the uncivilized shithole called the USA. People own guns in my country as well, and my parents had guns and literally used them a few times as well, but I never had any interest in guns myself nor any of my few friends ever talked about that.

>> No.7991111

>>7988378

I would love this. After watching the woodland mansion minecraft stream it's obvious that an actual horror game would have great entertainment potential and this is the only way she might play one. Scared Kiara is just way too cute.

>> No.7991115

>>7990837
>in a competitive professional enviroment
If you view music as a competition with anyone besides yourself you're doomed to failure. Music isn't a competition, it's an expression of art.

>> No.7991276

>>7990895
She will never get over her idol dream anon. She talked about how she was getting over her idol phase back in 2020 but then she relapses into idol nostalgia and talks nonstop about it or tweets about it, and even in her Karaokes she always wants to sing jpop, she can't help it
During her post Dokomi she even said how performing and meeting fans was so nostalgic *wink wink* so it may have reinforced her idolfag phase.

>> No.7991347

>>7991276
I don't mean the idol shit necessarily but just the style of music, Holo's put plenty of songs that aren't generic idol jpop.

>> No.7991362

>>7990512
Just did my reps. On Ame's stream around 1:36:00 there's an escaped jobless villager she ignored. At 1:38:00 there's also an unnamed master Armorsmith that sells diamond outside, but Ame put him back in. Dunno about the rest since this shit is too boring to watch.

>> No.7991364

>>7979856
Hey guys, does anybody have Kiara's panel at Megacon available? I was there Saturday, but my time was really limited there and all of the panel rooms had super long lines. I wanted to meet her but it just wasn't feasible, I'd feel better seeing what I missed.

>> No.7991406

>>7991276
Her 2020 holiday work visa was specifically for her idol stuff iirc, so that dream died not too long ago. I don't blame her for wanting it. Vtubing feels like a soft compromise but I'm sure once covid hysteria calms the fuck down and people treat it like the seasonal flu, she'll travel back to japan and maybe do 3D concerts. I'm like 99% sure Cover wants to do something big with anime expo next year too, so we'll see.

>> No.7991408

>>7991115
That's easy to say for the peanut gallery, but any profession is competitive by nature, infinitely more so any artistic ones. Do you know how many sayings and monickes have starving artists as their origin?

>> No.7991425

>>7991347
Well Heart Challenger, her most idolshit song, it's her own favorite and the type of song that makes her the happiest.
She may pursue other genres to hopefully try to get a hit like Goodbye Declaration was but Heart Challenger will always be the paragon for the song that connects the best with her

>> No.7991434

>>7991364
A mega link was posted... 2 threads ago, I think.

>> No.7991453

>>7991364
No video, just audio. There's a lot of clips on Twitter of it I can link though if you want
>>7934013

>> No.7991532

>>7991434
>>7991453
Any video links? It's somewhat disorienting finding her voice mixed in with all of the random chatter and laughter. Plus I was curious as to what the setup looked like.

>> No.7991545

>>7991408
Wait so is it ok to numberfag now?

>> No.7991551

>>7991532
You'll only get little clips on Twitter, but should be able to hunt them down with hashtags.

>> No.7991554

>>7991532
I haven't seen full videos, just a couple short clips on twitter, but there's a bunch of images in that thread too

>> No.7991591

>>7991545
Numberfagging is about tying the value of a chuuba to her numbers. You don't have to be a numberfag to acknowledge that numbers = money = good thing.

>> No.7991632

>>7991532
https://twitter.com/mikalros/status/1426696075700809731
https://twitter.com/Lynndissimo/status/1426698441628037122
https://twitter.com/BreadloafJr/status/1426684259801214976
https://twitter.com/DefensorArtz/status/1426720841778221057

>> No.7991641

>>7991453
Could you link please?

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>>7991641
Thanks dude

>> No.7991733

>>7990895
Am I deaf? Because I think Chicken voice may not be that big of a change
I'm listening to the Dokomi stream and comparing her hot mic moment to how she spoke the rest of the convention there wasn't much of a change. Do you have any reason to say she's putting up a voice for her songs?

>> No.7991738

>>7991709
I'm retarded meant to reply to >>7991632

>> No.7991786

>>7991632
I forgot these 2
https://twitter.com/DefensorArtz/status/1426715846995582984
https://twitter.com/DefensorArtz/status/1426734603839197185

>> No.7991911

>>7991733
Roomate shit.

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>>7991786
Damn, that looked like fun. Unfortunately my Zoomer nephew was with me, and we only had tickets for that day. And the con was weirdly disorganized in some parts, none of the panel rooms had obvious signs showing what they had and at what times. Still, it was a ton of fun though, I'm absolutely going next year. At the very least I got to meet Charles martinet, so it was definitely a 9.9/10 experience overall.

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>>7992655

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>>7992673

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>>7992704
https://twitter.com/PndrOyasumi/status/1427106330007904257

>> No.7993438

Cute.

>> No.7993677

>>7991408
It's not peanut gallery shit, I make music myself. It's incredibly telling when people like you start talking about music, or any other artistic venture, as a competition how little you understand. Competition tends to be based largely on objective measurements, or failing those they are judged by specific criteria by a panel of some sort. You can certainly have musical competitions, I participated in several in my youth, but mastery over instrument is not the same thing as creating and brining forth new works. The "starving artist" stereotype has nothing to do with "competition" artistically and everything to do with the fact that art does not provide value in the same way that other jobs do. The fact that there are brilliant people out there creating stuff that make pennies is proof enough that "being a good musician/artist" means absolutely nothing. The amount of money out there is slim for all but a few, but Kiara has no need to "compete" for that money.

>> No.7994187

>>7993677
Nigger do you actually listen to yourself when you speak. No one's asking for your life's story here, and you're probably far from the only one here who has "made music". But we're talking PROFESSIONAL here, and not fucking higshcool contests, we're talking the inherent competitive nature of any professional field, with music being especially harsh about it.

I have no idea how you can say "starving artists" have nothing to do with competition... and then describe in detail exactly why it is entirely ABOUT competition.

>> No.7994427

>>7994187
Please work on your reading comprehension, I said it had nothing to do with ARTISTIC competition. You don't get success from making something extremely technically precise or well made, you get success from making the most formulaic designed to sell soulless pop hits. Kiara has no need to resort to the prime numberfaggotry of the music industry, so she should just explore things musically and have fun doing it. Either way this isn't the place to have such discussion, and from the beginning it's clear your mind was made up anyways.

>> No.7994632

>>7992655
>>7992673
>>7992704
>>7992733
I like the takotori theme that they are just a bickering couple, always teasing each other

>> No.7994856

>>7994427
Fine let's drop it, no need for this kinda unrelated autistic discussion on a Kiara thread. But you're an absolute turbofaggot for saying to drop it AFTER making an argument, that's a cunt move to get in the last word.
>from the beginning it's clear your mind was made up anyways.
Don't pretend like that wasn't the case for you, goddamn pedantic musical-dropout life-vomiting bitch-attitude faggot.

>> No.7994864

>>7994632
but anon there's no bickering
only silence and tete

>> No.7994883

>>7987258
Halloween isn't that far off. Kiara was kinda disappointed with Craven Manor so she might play a real horror game this time around.

Also horror game off-collab with A-Chan - KFP needs to remind the two of them when the time comes.

>>7987297
That one on the far left looks suspicious... Also my two favorite instruments: glow sticks and hammer! (And yes, I know about that one piece that uses a big wooden hammer.)

>> No.7994954

>>7991911
Roommate recorded older stuff with a literal phone which made her voice a lot lower.
The "Kiara's real voice" clip where she is sad and thus speaks way lower.
People just want her natural voice to be a lot lower than it is I think but it's actually not that much of a difference as people seem to expect.
Also her Go XLR makes her voice even higher, it was lower around October, November with a different set-up.

>> No.7995044

>>7990837
But she is?
You really need to put things into perspective. She will never be as known for music as Mori or IRyS because as much as she loves music it is not her focus.
But her songs are doing well, she is singing constantly on stream, she had a concert at DoKomi, Nene wants to have a 3D concert with her, ...
Sparks got treated badly by the YT algorithm (likely due to management forcing her to release it at a terrible time between two huge streams) but it enjoyed a steady growth afterwards. Meanwhile Violet got a ton of hype and was released at the perfect moment - and then fizzled out so hard not even the most dedicated ikas try to use it to shitpost anymore.
Kiara is not "the most well known" for her music but she is "known" for it.

>> No.7995294

>>7983028
She is genuinely terrible at VF, but she did manage to figure out that low punch is a strong tool in VF and was kinda getting the idea of block and punish with fast strings. Wasn't just spamming flick kick. With some basic direction I think Kiara has the right type of tism to become competent. It's a better mindset than Mori's I want to do X even if X is the wrong choice, which is easy to slip into when you're trying to get good.

Though she'll never like competitive games. Maybe she could be convinced to play Soul Calibur for the dress up.

>>7985383
Her and Shingo were DLC candidates in XIV so there is a chance.

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https://twitter.com/CrManzana/status/1426996220141178890?s=19

Glory to our nation!

>> No.7995409

>>7995297
Anon, you missed some nice autism about that last thread.
I recommend reading from here >>7976655 - some anons got really excited about this whole thing. It was a good time.

>> No.7995420

>>7995044
>kiara wants to be known for music but sucks how sad
is only something used by retarded doomposters who tunnel vision and eggs so it's not worth replying seriously. yeah she could probably use some more practice but she's not in any way doing bad. her stuff isn't less popular than Gura or Mori because of higher standards or some bullshit, it's less popular because she's not Gura or Mori.

>> No.7995571

>>7995297
>>7995409
In addition to that, there's some fun stuff going on in another thread. In particular, here's my opinion on some of our technological and cultural quirks: >>7992074

>> No.7995591

>>7995571
Oops, I grabbed the wrong one, that's somebody else's. My bad >>7992625

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>>7995297
>Population: Chickens, Dead Beats
>Not being unityland
It's shit.

>> No.7996827

Just had a real nightmare with Kira, well related to her atleast
>having totally unrelated dream
>some random shit happens and makes me go to a totally different location
>kfp has an ongoing joke about being a cult and Sparks being a cult song
>a unironic demonic summonation circle with random people that i know irl starts to form and fucking sparks slowed down demonically playing in the background
>everything starts to get exponentially worse
>when shit was getting real worse my alarm wakes me up
>"wtf"

I may or may not been watching way too much of kiara streams, and i may or may not need to take my meds

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>>7996827
Kiara*

>> No.7997017

>>7996827
Sounds like you need to stream more Heart Challenger for now if you are oversaturated on Sparks.

>> No.7997164

>>7997017
That's the thing, im not oversatured, i love Sparks, im just retarded and probably a confirmed schizo
However you're indeed right i should be streaming more heart challenger

>> No.7997296

>>7981688
Too bad they can't play SC because they pledge to the nation of Coconia, otherwise we'd have megakino Aqua/Botan/Ame streams and other cool shit.

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birb awake

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https://twitter.com/akira0053/status/1427200594754768896/

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All the Kiara threads are starting to look the same to me

>> No.7998416

>>7998381
Probably because their all made by the same people, with the same purpose.

>> No.7998461

>>7998416
I just think there are better things to timeloop about. The gun stuff and country building was pretty fresh

>> No.7998510

>>7998461
Oh, I thought you were talking about the bait Kiara split threads. But yeah, recently it's been either a numberfag timeloop or a singing timeloop each thread.

>> No.7998605

>>7998510
Or, you know, you could just ignore that discussion and look at stream discussions that happen if you really dislike them that much.

>> No.7998666

>>7998605
Yeah I should hide posts more often but I do get a bit of a chuckle seeing literal paragraphs saying the same stuff over and over again

>> No.7998849

>>7980109
Of course kfp are retarded good goy

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>>7998381
>>7998416
Kiara called "OrangeWomanBad" for a reason, anon.
this being almost fucking year already since her debut. how long can they seethe over chuba they do not watch?

unfortunately, bright light attracts many bugs. but i happy that this made my oshi stronger and she shines even brighter.

>> No.7999222

>>7998849
>41 year veteran
do you still believe in santa claus anon?

>> No.7999250

>>7999222
Irys...

>> No.7999335

>>7997567
Akira you sexy motherfucker, release your doujins digitally come on.

>> No.7999383

>>7997567
art.

>> No.7999468

>>7999166
My issue is that because of all the anti and egg spam, the general community surrounding her in this place instantly assumes all criticism or comments come from a place of malice when it's honestly just someone talking about their Oshi.
The idol music topic came up and I'm not the biggest fan of it. I'll still tune into karaoke and enjoy it because of her, despite the typical music choices.

>> No.7999660

>>7999468
can't blame Kiara's fans for taking defensive position , since her name is under constant attacks almost a year.
>karaoke music choices
+1 on this take. this s pretty popular opinion

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I decided to play around with textures in arma 3 yesterday. I made a few posters, flags and recolored the AAF uniform in glorious orange.

>> No.7999946

>>7999468
You can just tell when it's actual criticism and when it isn't, you can also tell when it's an egg going full retard monkey when he finally gets a criticism to use, since they will spam threads endlessly and shit all over the place, to the point of annoying people that don't care about Kiara, instead of her fans. Not to mention the usual "narratives" that are just lies. There's a lot of disingenuous posts, concern trolling and falseflags that are hard to catch, but people eventually get even tired of seeing them, getting particularly bad when it's something that doesn't even has anything to do with Kiara, used to attack her, like how Ina and Mori's streams become shitposting fuel.

The only cases where I see non-antis being called eggs are when it's retarded newfags believing everything they see on an anonymous imageboard without source or proofs, parroting bullshit they choose to believe because antis spam non-stop.

I'm not KFP, but the reason why most people, even from other fanbases, are ok with Kiara's """critiques""" being shat on is because they have been absurdly annoying, with zero self-awareness since the start, and are nothing but an eyesore shitting up threads and ruining the fun for everyone else, all while putting the blame on the other fanbases since they were using those other girls to fuel the shitposting.

>> No.8001212

Any anon know the link to the intro song she used here? Been searching on Youtube but can't find it.
https://youtu.be/256oUA4TtYk

>> No.8001372

>>7999800
are you the same guy that posted the bald man being harassed by 2 military officers?

>> No.8001724

>>8001212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49acbk0U-3Y
Here's to hoping this gets used again one day

>> No.8001999

>>7994954
>Also her Go XLR makes her voice even higher, it was lower around October, November with a different set-up.

I miss this voice so much. The 1 hr clip she tweeted for example, I couldn't listen to more than 15 seconds of it because as much as I love her, her current voice is a huge filter. It just isn't pleasant to hear

Ib contrast I could listen to that clip of her singing diamonds in minecraft for the rest of my life

>> No.8002260

>>7995420
Kiara's singing in karaokes isn't even clipped by clipfags anymore though, it doesn't generate views. Fucking Amelia doesn't know how to sign and she atill gets viewa and is clipped

>> No.8002408

>>7997567
Where did you get this photo of my wife?

>> No.8003322

When the fuck did this thread become worse than /morig/?

>> No.8003369

>>8001372
Yes

>> No.8003515

>>8001999
This is something that's very hit or miss for me. It's obvious that Kiara isn't a 1 to 1 for who Kiara really is and that getting in character helps her be more bold/forward, so it's a really big positive about 'Kiara' as a character. The voice comes with that package to help 'separate' the character from the person.
I like vtubing over regular streamers because I think this aspect lets them be more genuine and forward whereas if they had a camera on themselves, they would be a lot different. It gives the people behind the rigs the ability to relax a lot more and in general talk personally a lot more often which makes them feel more genuine. I'm willing to take any 'character' qwerks that come with this freedom.

>> No.8003833

>>8003322
We've always been worse than /morig/
But I prefer an active thread over a dead thread

>> No.8004335

>>8003322
For better or worse it's from overinvestment in Kiara's idol career. It means there's passion to see growth, but sometimes I worry it's also some living vicariously through her. I enjoy her more as an entertainer, so perhaps I have less requests for her.

>> No.8006308

>>8002260
When it comes to karaoke Ame and Ina have the Ayame effect - since it's so rare more people want to catch it.

>> No.8006542

unity chicken

>> No.8007052

>>8006308
When it comes to Ame it's also the fact that she sings songs I actually know and care about, so I have more fun with her karaokes
Hello Project, Vocaloid and Hololive songs on the other hand? Not really my thing. Still love you Kiara

>> No.8008750

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1427277635881734145

Are Kiara and Ame the only ones who really care?

>> No.8008977

>>8008750
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1427275658338525185

Mori also tweeted about it, although about all three at once.

Ame and Kiara are always the most outspoken about unity and the ones most openly excited about stuff like this.

>> No.8009017

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1427268164170272774
Based cunnyseur

>> No.8009057

>>8008750
Mori retweeted all the outfit streams, posted about them, was in ollie's chat, interacted with all of them on twitter. Ina retweeted all of them. Gura's notoriously inactive on social media/likely still asleep. Don't bring dumb drama here just to prop up kiara and ame.

>> No.8009182

>>8008750
Making public tweets is just a way to show excitement and drum up hype. Basically bonus fanservice. Should it matter if some have minimal engagement?

>> No.8009254

My eyes liked Anya's new outfit the best, but my dick went for Reine's

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>> No.8009424

>>8009057
>Don't bring dumb drama here just to prop up kiara and ame.
Shut up faggot I only really watch Kiara and I like her a lot but it seems to me that these two care the most from what I can see. Gatekeeper

>> No.8009440

>>8009364
>mum
Very bri'ish of you, Kiara.

>> No.8009491

>>8009440
Also a tad inconsistent because I don't think she uses "ou" when applicable instead of "o" as in "favourite"? Or does she?

>> No.8009538

>>8009424
nta but you're trying too hard. You'd get better replies in /hlgg/

>> No.8009632

>>8009424
> only really watch kiara
> somehow cares about how much individual members care about hololive as a whole
ogey

>> No.8009692

Stop replying to bait and analyze Kiara's English spelling as a whole immediately
Is it 'murrican? Is it bri'ish? Or is it, perchance, Australian?

>> No.8009792

>>8009491
>>8009692
british english gets taught in school
american english is what you mostly read online and as you expand your vocab
sprinkle in some jp spelling for stuff like Tench-ou and you have the perfect mix of ESL brain

>> No.8009800

>>8009692
It's the standard european one where you get taught the british spelling in school and then you keep mixing them up later

>> No.8010036

>>8009792
>>8009800
She's just like me...
But yeah we were also taught British English and pronunciation in school, but I rebelled and adopted the American variant as soon as I graduated.
The only exception I make in my spelling is using the word doughnut, because donut is just stupid. I get that streamlining language is just straight-up laziness, but that is too much

>> No.8010671

>>8009254
Reine is my go-to when I don't feel like archive diving for the stuff I wasn't around for with Kiara.

>> No.8010728

>>8009364
Sleep day today followed by tales of arise demo...
At least Minecraft, Haachama, and multicollab Gartic will be great. LOZ is always hit or miss depending on what she talks about

>> No.8011115

>>8009254
Reine's outfit is pretty damn amazing. Very similiar to the "casual" theme of the EN outfits.
Ollies also looks great and is well rigged but it feels too busy

>> No.8011128

>>8003515
She was the same with a camera on, just without things like the exaggerated lewd on sims4 or exaggerated rage on mario kart. Those are fake character traits and dont make her more genuine. Its the opposite

>> No.8011325

>>8011115
Ollie's is really nice if she takes off all her stuff.
And Anya's can look cute without the coat and glasses (don't kill me, FBK...).

All three outfits were pretty good but Reine is the winner for me as well.

>> No.8011384

>>8011325
If Ollie takes all the stuff off it's rather plain.
I like Anya's well enough, just a shame she got the Gura rigger treatment.

>> No.8011954

For my preference Anya>Reine>>Ollie. Anya's does have rigging issues but I can forgive that with how cute it is. Smol girl with trenchcoat is amazing. Reine is super comfy.
Kiara also seemed to like Anya's the most if we read into the number of tweets/screenshots super hard.

>> No.8011969

Momo collab doko
Pomu collab doko
HoloTori collab doko

>> No.8012079

>>7986434
While natural talent absolutely mogs everything, the idea that you can't get become at least decent if not good by working hard is laughable.
Kiara is just arrogant and would rather pretend none of her "misfortune" such as lack of popularity is her own fault.

It's incredibly ironic that she mentioned how Nene has such a great clean "natural" voice, when Nene has actually talked about how someone used to tell her her voice wasn't cute so she could never make it as an idol.

>> No.8012136

>>8002260
>Kiara's singing in karaokes isn't even clipped by clipfags anymore though
I noticed this too, truly sad. Or it does get clipped but it's by some no-name that gets 30 views.
Oh well, she kinda dug her own grave in regards to karaoke.

>> No.8012179

>>7986434
>I wonder if something happened in the past.
You can assume that in her previous career she had voice coaches. The experience seems to have left her jaded on the concept, make of that what you will.
If Kiara thinks that voice training will not improve her ability notably, I take her word for it because she has been there and done that shit.

>> No.8012283

>>8012136
my humb has good numbers at kamitsuguri https://youtu.be/pSl3iu_vjN4

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>> No.8013039

>>7986434
Kiara's one of my favs in EN but she can be arrogant as fuck and it pisses me off sometimes. Like even if you truly believe you should keep it to yourself in this industry. Fucking Austrians.

>> No.8013256

>>8011128
Nah. Go back in time fucko.

>> No.8013308

>>8011969
>HoloTori collab doko
Gartic Phone!

>> No.8013605

>>8012079
She was confronted about the Nene thing months ago and her response was that Nene was likely just being humble like japanese people tend to be lol

She still remembers that tangent from back then, she referenced it like last week but she never touched the subject in deep again

>> No.8013825

Her arguably negative traits don't always lead to negative results. Her selfishness/narcissism/whatever you want to call it is what got her the Tales of ambassadorship and it's what allows for kino streams like the Gartic Phone art collab to happen in the first place.
It's not always all good or all bad, and every cloud has a silver lining.

>> No.8013894

>>8013825
Congratulations, you have unlocked the hidden Kiara understanding.

>> No.8014157

>>8009632
nta but I'm in a similar situation due to time constraints, and I still care about the others not being into it much because it makes me feel bad for Kiara
Same way that the way older Takamori collabs would make people here feel bad about Mori putting 5% effort to Kiara's 120%, I guess.
I just don't want Kiara to feel like the others doesn't care as much about this or about her as she does.

>> No.8014233

>>8014157
Go back to you own split deadbeat

>> No.8014404

>>8012079
Anon she's already spent years of effort, hard work and vocal training. If she came out if thinking it was worthless, there's probably a reason. She likely already peaked in a lot of ways and couldn't make any meaningful improvements to her base ability.
She can of course always practice songs to hit the notes better but I don't think that requires a coach.

>> No.8014447

>>8014233
How does any of that make me a cuckbeat.

>> No.8014471

>>8014157
> older takamori collabs
> 5% Mori 120% Kiara
Tell me how I know you've never actually watched their older collabs/off-collabs.
That or you have an extremely biased perspective skewed towards kiara/don't understand the dynamic they had set up/just coming here to try to get people to shit on Mori.

>> No.8014660

>>8014447
You're bringing Mori up when there's literally no reason to
What's worse, you're bringing up ancient collabs that are almost a year old at this point
It's clear you love her, just accept it

>> No.8014697

>>8014471
What about Mori putting little effort and Kiara putting a lot seems so shocking to you. It's basically universally true.
Her dynamic back then was her being a cunt to Kiara which is bad on a separate account, but she just put less effort into their collabs. Still kinda does, but less so.

>> No.8014767

>>8014660
I was making a completely separate point faggot, did you just laser eye "Mori" in the text and reply immediately? I just chose that example because old takamori collabs get brought up frequently here for similar reasons. I could give another example if it gives you mori-tism peace.

>> No.8014956

>>8014447
Running gag on the board that anyone shitting on Mori is actually a deadbeat.

>> No.8014976

>>8014697
>>8014767
Mori and anon sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G

>> No.8015036

>>8014697
The universal truth is that Kiara consistently has higher energy than everyone she collabs with because that's just how she is. That doesn't necessarily mean low effort from whomever the partner is; people operate differently socially.
> being a cunt to her
ah yes. working on kiara's debut book thing, making her first mv, her old stream animation, planning an entire trip they could go on together. can't believe mori was such a bitch to kiara.
I know a lot of y'all don't like takamori and have latched onto ametori and feel comfortable shitting on mori now; I'm ambivalent to both. But be fair here. She has done plenty of things for Kiara and vice versa and I still appreciate her for it.

>> No.8015093

>>8013825
She likes herself, she likes talking about herself, and she's not afraid to promote herself. However, the problem with people saying "selfish" or "narcissist" is that she doesn't do any of it to the exclusion of other people. You can call it annoying (which is fair, it is kind of annoying), but it isn't harmful or exploitative. Kiara regularly tries to get other people to promote/care about themselves more. She gets people to plug themselves, plugs other people, gushes about the people she cares about.
I will say that her flaws are often caused by what she's good at. She's good at filling dead air, but some people need dead air to feel confident starting to talk. She's confident, but also tends to grandstand.

>> No.8015239

>>8015036
It means being a cunt to her on collabs, faggot, not IRL.

>> No.8015307

>>8013825
Normal girls love to talk about themselves. Too bad most of the retards who hate her don’t interact with normal girls.

>> No.8015349

>>8015307
If they had any self awareness they might notice how they love to talk about themselves too.

>> No.8015401

Here are your meds for the day.
Take them. All of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfg1OWHw_y4

>> No.8015427

>>8015036
There's a lot to like about TakaMori as friends and they for sure are close and help each other out consistantly. On cam TakaMori more often than not is stiff. Kiara commits too much to the lovey dovey stuff (toned back recently) and Mori acts too tsun (also toned back recently). It can easily come off as Mori just being a shit sometimes because her acting for the part is a little rough, and it tricks Anon's into thinking 'MORI HATES KIARA'.
The only one that still kinda gets to me out of all the 'moments' the spergs bring up is the Minecraft collab where Kiara dies in the tunnel and you can actually hear the frustration and tears welling up in Kiara when everyone's laughing at her and Mori says 'Who cares' to her. Minutes later in the collab, Mori apologizes and the group proceeds to try and cheer Kiara up so it easily worked itself out, but boy oh boy the few minute leadup and the minute or two aftermath actually make me seeth.

>> No.8015469

>>8015239
then that kind of proves the point that their collab dynamic back then was set up to be that way intentionally doesn't it?

>> No.8015657

>>8015469
It was meant to be a stereotypical tsundere relationship. Kiara went too hard into it and Mori can’t act tsundere to save her life without it making her look like a bitch.

>> No.8015713

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1427330455313993729
BASED shark forcing this chicken to move out of her fucking comfort zone for once and play something she isn't familiar with.

>> No.8015741

>>8015427
Agreed that both of them toning back has improved collabs quite a bit (outside of their old off-collabs; those have all mostly been kino)
Both of them probably just overplayed their roles in the early days before finding a balance.
> Minecraft moment
can't defend her on that one beyond her being tired and sometimes speaking abrasively without thinking. funnily enough I do recall mori actually talking about how she does feel sorry specifically about saying things and immediately regretting it because of how mean they can sound (and I do believe kiara was whom she meant or at least one of them). thankfully didn't happen much and doesn't anymore for a long time now but definitely made me wince.

>> No.8015745

>>8015427
Oh she apologized? That's cool. I must've been dsitracted when that happened, I only remember the curt and dry "who cares" after Kiara was trying to make some banter with Mori. You got a timestamp?

>> No.8015772

>>8015713
Imagine all the chicken voice screeching.

>> No.8015853

>>8015713
Horror games aren't my thing at all but Kiara moving out of her comfort zone is what we desperately need so that she could try out other stuff in the future.

>> No.8015855

>>8015427
I thought it was Mori misspelling a sign and Kiara pointing it out that prompted the "who cares"?

>> No.8015891

Main problems of Takamori

1. Mori's shitty acting making her look like she genuinely hates Kiara. I think she's gotten less bad at it at least

2. Mori being a cunt to Kiara in general. This is a seperate problem from the first one. ie. the heart challenger fiasco, or not calling her when she arrived in Australia (even fucking Gura did). Even if you don't actually give a shit it's just basic politeness to not behave like that.

3. Mori being a shit collab partner in general. 2 hours of playing Shadowverse without her saying a fucking thing beyond random autism grunts. The copypasta of her shit-ass collabs is endless for a reason.

tl;dr Mori is shit, AmeTori forever

>> No.8015923

>Takamori
Get the fuck out.

>> No.8015926

>>8015855
IIRC they were making fun of Kiara for something, and she was like "Oh yeah, but uh, you did [thing], so there!", y'know trying to banter.
Then Mori dryly said "Who cares" and everyone just shut up for a bit (except for some later.

>> No.8015945

>>8015923
Fuck off gosling, don't shit on people for talking about Takamori, just shit on him for how much of a faggot he is.

>> No.8015966

>>8015427
Eh, it was probably Mori's autism where she tried to move on from the subject because she noticed Kiara was upset but rolled a nat 1 on tact.
They choose a pretty difficult theme for their keyfabe so messing up is to be expected.
Let's not forget that they managed to attract Mamaloni and an army of /u/shizos with it.

What I would really like out of their relationship is a rival that goes for Kiara. Everyone is all "Kari kakkoi" and Kiara plays her part of being jealous, making idiots think she is clingy and Mori doesn't care for her.
But if Mori was the jealous one for once it would do wonders for ther dynamic, even if she is only jealous when Kiara doesn't see it.
It wouldn't even need to be a constant thing, just one or two moments would be enough to feed fan art for months.

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>> No.8016005

>>8015853
idk how likely she'd get over her stubbornness in trying new things but horror is at least more likely than anything else as long as it doesn't involve shooting. She tends to play games that don't require much if any mechanical skills so any genre that requires that is almost out of the question unless she's sponsored.

>> No.8016034

>>8016005
Well her mom has been giving her shit about not playing shooters so maybe she might try those.

>> No.8016059

>>8015992
based

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>>8015945
Takamori = garbage.
Goslings = fags.
KYS.

>> No.8016085

>>8015992
Basado

>> No.8016086

>>8015966
Was that not sorta the case in the Shadowverse tournament with Faye?

>> No.8016105

>>8016034
What shooters do you want her to play? Zoom and Apex shit?

>> No.8016188

>>8016086
Kiara was present and Mori did not really say much.
She made expressions that /u/shizos latched onto but that's the same as stalking Mori's likes to see that she likes a ton of TakaMori stuff constantly even if it doesn't have her own art tag.
I would love something more concrete that doesn't require as much crumb picking to show that Mori is into the ship as well.

>>8016105
Mass Effect or just any single-player focussed shooter.

>> No.8016193

>>8016105
Single player story-based shooters are a dime a dozen, she might enjoy one of those.

>> No.8016233

>>8016188
>Mass Effect
Oh god please no. 0.5k viewers incoming.

>> No.8016264

>>8016233
Why would a somewhat beloved western game filter out more people than freaking Ryza?

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>>8016105
Mirror's Edge

>> No.8016321

>>8016105
Killer 7 and Metal Slug. Fuck all this FPS esports shit.

>> No.8016336

>>8016299
I would watch it.

>> No.8016469

>>8016105
Wolfenstein

>> No.8016497

>>8016188
There were plenty of times when mori said some pretty sweet stuff and kiara didn't hear it. She's also been more open about telling her she misses her in recent months. Also the flower thing at the end of the usaken Minecraft collab I guess. She's been loosening up quite a bit lately. Either way I'm not for or against it, I like the friendship they have and what they've both done for and mean to each other beyond the kayfabe. I just think it's ridiculous when people act like it's nothing they both agreed upon in the first place.

>> No.8016571

>>8016497
Their genuine friendship is definitely the best part of their dynamic - the bracelets are a part of most TakaMori art for a reason.
But I also enjoy the keyfabe and would like if it had some development beyond the basics that have been established for almost a year now.

>> No.8016596

>>8016264
I feel like Kiara probably has never played any western rpg in general or at least has never given any a fair shake. The ME series would be great and I'm pretty sure at least more people would tune it for that than the likes of yakuza, Ryza and SS. Each game doesn't even take that long to complete too she'd easily breeze past each in just a handful of streams.

>> No.8016716

>Ollie given traditional Indonesian bridal outift.
How hard would you coom if Kiara were given a wedding dress outfit? Even though we all know it would be non-stop Mori bait, I still would love to see Kiara in a wedding dress.

>> No.8016824

>>8016596
I would love it if Kiara agreed to do "trial runs" of various games she doesn't think she'll like with the idea that she's showing people that she's giving the game a try, but without the expectation that she'll continue it unless she specifically plans to.

>> No.8016849

>>8016716
I wouldn't coom because wedding dresses are pure
I would gooseling pretty hard though

>> No.8016871

>>8015745
I mean it hung in the air for sure. Just go watch the collab around that part again. I'm interested to continue my archive reps to see if there's a noticeable mood change in Kiara for a few days afterword, given that she tends to wear her heart on her sleeve.

>> No.8016879

>>8016105
Quake 3 Arena
If she didn't play it back in ze day then SOMEBODY she knew definitely did (like her brother). That game was huge in Europe

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>>8016716
>coom
Isn't wedding dress something for goslings instead of coomers? Pretty sure coomers are more interested in Reine when it comes to ID2 outfits.

Looking into Austrian wedding dresses it seems they are not too far off from Dirndls and full white dresses are something more modern.
Since she wants a Dirndl outfit anyways it might not be impossible to get something close to an old-timey wedding dress.

>> No.8016975

>>8016871
I doubt it. Kiara bounces back pretty quick and I wouldn't be surprised if Mori apologized off-stream if she didn't on stream.

>> No.8017017

>>8016883
>>8016849
I'm retarded, forgive me. Yes, gosling the fuck out of her. She might get the idea seeing Ollies new dress and its alterations. That tradition Australian wedding dress looks pretty goofy. Dunno if it could be cute enough to gosling over.

>> No.8017124

>>8016883
God I'd kneel so hard if Kiara leaned into "Australian" traditional dress for outfit 3

>> No.8017147

>>8017124
After seeing that this is what the ID girls went for, I'm sure she'd be even more receptive to the idea. Better to take advantage of your unique background than just get an outfit that anybody else could've gotten

>> No.8017235

>>8017147
It would also fit right in with the traditional ID clothes and the yukata JP holos get for New Year's.
HoloTori traditional dress version - even if Reine's is pretty modern aside from the scarf thingy.

>> No.8017244

>>8016716
Strangely, I feel like Ollie's outfit was the one Kiara was least interested in. She really liked Anya's, using words like "love", "cute", "cutiepie", "ToT" and wet her panties over Reine's outfit ("cute", "good", "hnnng", responding to Pochi's 'my daughter is beautiful' with "very true") but the words she used to describe Ollie's were "flashy" and "interesting" which don't really tell you whether she likes it or not.

>> No.8017351

>>8016883
only if Mori gets the fucking pimp outfit the guy on the right is wearing

>> No.8017373

>>8017244
True. Though that's not necessarily because of the idea of the outfit itself (have it be something traditional/cultural), but because the outfit itself was just a bit too busy.
That and maybe she expended her energy on the first two outfits

>> No.8017394

>>8017244
She might have liked Ollie's original outfit more since it's goth lolita.
Or she was just exhausted - I sure as hell were physically exhausted after Ollie's reveal, she talks so fucking fast.

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