/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Did she expect to be the least popular and least viewed genmate?

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They most likely expected her and Calli to be the most popular

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>>7954819
Why, theyre both untalented as shit

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Not to mention fucking unlikeable

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>>7954777
Least viewed is Ina

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>>7954777
i like Kiara

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>>7954882
No that's ame. That nigger bitch

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>>7954777
Kiara spent a year building a loyal fanbase that will support her no matter what. Compared to the other 4 where their audiences will just leave towards the other HoloEN2s over time.

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>>7954834
>>7954819
They used the biggest name artist and rigger on Kiara. It's obvious they expected her to be big and never expected Gura to be the one to blow up.

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>>7954901
Kiara is literally the least watched holoEN every single stream im comparison to the others

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>>7954908
Kiara probably wanted to "blow up" using whatever means, but shes just completly ass i dont even know why they hired her

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>least popular and least viewed genmate
and yet, still more popular than a whole slew of JP.

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>>7954921
That doesn't contradict what the other anon said.

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>>7954921
still she is my oshi and there is nothing you can do about it

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Shes not even a likeable retard

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>>7954901
The most loyal is Tentacult incels
KFPs loyalty is mostly out of pity or relatability of effort not producing results

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>>7954777
it's just like her 3DPDidol days repeating themselves to her horror. that's why she is so obsessed with numbers and cries constantly about cover mistreating her. and I'm loving every second of it

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>>7954954
Not really, her having less numbers frequently means she has a smaller fanbase than the others

This also means speaks of her performance as an entertainer, she really sucks ass

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>>7954976
You should honestly kill yourself if you’re this obsessed with hating someone online.

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>>7954901
Kinda funny how being comparatively small led to the most fanatic core fanbase in EN
Congrats I guess

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>>7954777
damn this board loves "Orange Woman" so fucking much. shark is NOT even close to number of people willing to discuss Kiara.

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>>7955059
Hes really not that commited, its just your retarded interpretation of him simply stating a fact

Casually even on a nonserius place like literally here, youre just retarded

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>>7954992
It’s great isn’t it?
Her making me concernfag is so fucking hot
Donating akas to her feels somehow better than with any other idol

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>muh obsessed you hatefull person yer obsessed

meanwhile people come write a responce for 15 seconds then leave, yeah "obsessed", yeah youre not dumb

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>>7955071
Kiara derangement syndrome is an actual thing.

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>>7955153
Still, you should kill yourself

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>>7954899
why are takoniggers like this

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imagine loosing in popularity to someone that does sleepy drawing streams 90% of the time

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>>7954777
What now faggot?

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Holy fuck another Kiara-anti thread. You should continue shitposting about matsuri instead for more (you)

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>>7955199
>>7955153
>nonserius
>responce
same person. they’re not sending their smartest, folks!

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>>7955397
b-but Gura s got more members..

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Zelda is more so an action-adventure series rather than an rpg right?

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>>7954777
No, they actually expected her to be the #1 due to her being able to speak fluent Jap

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>>7955397
This one's simple: The more time you spend reading SCs, the more likely you are to earn more SCs.
See: Watame, Lamy in JP. Not always the case, but it certainly helps the numbers.
Ina specifically said she didn't need SCs, so generally she won't get SC as much.
Ame has had her SCs turned off a whole bunch by her own choice, so her numbers are also gonna be poor.
Gura basically didn't do dedicated reading of SCs ever until earlier this year, and still doesn't read them half the time.

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>>7955603
the only zelda game people care about nowadays is botw
i completely forgot skyward sword even existed

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>>7955397
Views per day since debut:
Ina - 176 307
Mori - 467 885
Ame - 236 122
Kiara - 223 677
didnt bother to check Gura
(this also includes songs else Mori would be way way lower)

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>>7955603
Yeah. Breath of the Wild is really only RPG-esqe mainline game

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>>7955652
Holy cope

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>>7955660
but Ame is the most creative member of Hololive

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>>7955660
Kiara has a couple of songs too, as well as "Am Zoo" which boosts hers, but I guess they're all about the same, more or less.

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>>7955721
Sub-par post aside, a part of me wants an edgy Watson outfit, like a more Noir-Esque thing.

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>>7955787
"am zoo" under 200k nowadays.
she do it to stay relevant in term of youtube algoritm when she need day(s) off stream

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>>7954901
You can say that, but viewer wise she did worse than like, Luna, on her last stream head to head. Luna. Then again she was playing a debuff game, but it feels like almost everything she touches is suddenly a debuff game besides Minecraft.

In fact she had the lowest viewers of ALL non-ID Holo streams (Anya..) within the last 24 hours. I don't even dislike Kiara much, it's just I mean, sure she has loyal KFP who SC her a ton, but in terms of overall clout/popularity I'm not seeing it. She does have a fervent cult following at least.

Generally her biggest non-new-outfit numbers are JP collabs, which at first were big news for the novelty of a reverse Coco/Haachama effect for Japanese viewers where it's neat to see an English speaker talking freely in their own language, but those tended to draw to more typical numbers over time (still her best though I think).

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>>7955883
man of cultur? i see

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>>7955397
>Mori has pulled in almost a fucking million dollars in just SCs now, forget the membership tallies
>lol5%, grunts through streams like a slog, refers to it merely as 'a job'

Something's wrong here, both with her and her audience.

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>>7954908
If they expected her to blow up why would they give her that retarded sentai, chef hat nonsense?

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>>7955889
Well Am Frog was at about a million last I checked.

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>>7956007
her lore is fucking retarded too
she's a phoenix but also a fast food owner but also also an isekai hero for some reason?

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>>7956009
>Am Frog
>"am zoo" under 200k NOWADAYS
anon.

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>>7955982
That's why I don't hate deadbeats, I just feel sorry for them. They're being scammed and it's too late to help them.

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>>7955654
I love the Zelda series but even then I can’t be bothered to watch it on stream, aside from boss fights and cutscenes.

Like Fire Emblem, I find it more fun to play than to watch

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>>7954777
No one expects to be last, except maybe Ina, but someone always has to be. Kiara probably thought that being able to speak in Japanese and collab easily with Holo JP would be a big buff. She didn't count on the Japanese having no reason to watch her when there's 30 other Jp speaking Holos and nothing she doesn't any better than them, and English speakers getting absolutely nothing from her JP collabs because, you know, they don't actually speak Japanese.

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>>7955787
Yeah it's not as significant as Mori's songs at all but it's definitely something. Her last stream is almost a day old and only has like 69k views, which as you noticed is a lot less than 223,677. Her Garlic Phone collab from like 3 days ago still hasn't cleared 100k and that was a big-ticket full gen+ collab, if there was anything loyal KFP would tune in on it'd presumably be something like that.

Then again all of EN's numbers have been collapsing the past week. Seems school reopening in-person really really slammed them this time; last year they debuted near the start of school yeah but also probably almost all their high school/college age viewers had some funky remote learning thing going where they could find the time for streams if not just have them going on a tab during lectures all semester. I'd also think NijiEN has pulled away a significant chunk too, at least for now. They couldn't have been a day later with the EN2 teaser as that's real important right now to pull the limelight off them - these couple months interlude has all bought time for them to grow on people unchallenged and during a time of waning EN enthusiasm and utter drama from Holo with Coco/Chammers business to say the least. Probably tons of people were or still are fundamentally fed up with Cover and/or bored of the HoloENs and they've taken way too fucking long to drag out the new gen.

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>>7954777
>usually don't watch holoEN
>compare Kiara's channel with her genmates' channels
>it's real
Never liked her myself but I had the preconceived idea that she was popular. 1.14m subs is nothing to scoff at, but it's true that her other genmates have more, and Ina seems to get double Kiara's views despite only having 10k more subs.

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>>7955397
Calli pulling a cool $300k in SC income. Very nice for a girl who worked at Applebees not too long ago.

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>>7956250
At the time when EN was on the drawing board and nobody knew how it'd go over with Western audiences, probably having a few that could transition to mostly JP-catering if needed was probably seen as a good backup plan. Sort of like how if you look at how most of the HoloIDs speak mostly English, they probably assumed it was very possible the Western audience just wouldn't take to these as much as another potential customer so figured even if EN fell on its face it wouldn't entirely collapse since Kiara's there, Ina can speak a little bit and they probably thought (incorrectly) at the time that Mori was at least somewhat competent in it if needed.

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>>7956288
It'll be fine. Dropping in real quick for a super is pretty common. And memberships are fucking insane when you think about it. If just 1% of their total audience gets the 5 USD membership then they're looking at 5k-40k a month just from that, disregarding member tiers tiers and ad revenue

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>>7955309
as should we all.

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HoloEN except Gura views per day with songs subtracted:

Kiara - 172 010
Mori - 285 147
Ina - 173 331
Ame - 235 209

Kiara is in fact last in terms of viewers

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>>7954777
She may be the one with the worst numbers among their genmates, but she still earns a ton of money; while being one who clearly enjoy the most streamingb in holo EN

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>>7954777
She still has more views than Ina.

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>>7955397
This kind of shit makes me happy. I think I must be one of the few here that doesn't hate any of the en hololive members. Sure I have favorites and favor some over others, but I don't hate any of them. I think it's great that each of them provides some form of enjoyment and happiness for their fans, also makes me glad that they're making bank.

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>>7956768
read >>7956648
she doesnt

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>>7956877
>I must be one of the few here that doesn't hate any of them
anon, this shithole is NOT a bastion of morality.

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>>7956648
Very interesting numbers
does that include membership streams?
how much are the members only streams that Mori makes public afterwards inflating her view count (percentage)?
could you check that?

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https://streamable.com/a8mrol

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>>7957097
>https://streamable.com/a8mrol
lol this shit is hilarious

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>>7957032
Sadly, members-only streams numbers are hidden
(but on IOS youtube app you can bypass that through a bug but im too lazy to go through that lol)

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>>7956007
hats are cute, she has everything for a winning ticket. Her artist is amazing and her rigger is amazing, orange is a really nice color and the design is top notch, sadly her inexperience at streaming gave her a slow start up and they underestimated people's love for cunny.

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>>7957279
with said bug though I am making a list on ~amount of members each holomem have though.
But only have a few so far and no holoEN yet.

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>>7957279
Jup, That is the problem I was hinting at: How much does the public release of her members only Streams boost Moris Numbers in comparison to her other genmates?
The answer Is probably somewhere in the dedicated numbers thread

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>>7957425
Cali revised numbers with public members-only streams subtracted:

Views per day since debut: 465 062
Views per day (songs not included: 282 294

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>>7956351
>I had the preconceived idea that she was popular
She is. You just have your minds warped by numbers and constantly comparing her to one girl who is about the same level of popularity (Ina), the single most popular vtuber on the planet (Gura) and two that float in between. It would be like saying Taylor Swift isn’t a popular musician because she doesn’t pull Beyoncé numbers.

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I didn't read the thread, but god DAMN I love this chimkin. She's very hard working, and she adores her fans
KIARA LOVE!
UNITY LOVE!

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>>7956116
Mori monopolized the song release reward for a very long time. Like in JP if a girl does event, got massive SC. That's for each Mori release on Global audience. I blame Cover for not supporting the others for song releases, resulting paypigs rewards concentrated on Mori.

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>>7954901
idk, I only watch amelia and gura.

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>>7959004
This, Vtubing has become the anime girl equivalent of body dysmorphia.
Where you could be an in shape guy with some visible abs and vascularity but you don't look absolutely shredded, you're not Chris Bumstead, and thus you're absolute shit.
Kiara isn't as popular as others yes but she's still very popular, there are channels twice as old and content filled as hers with half the subs or less.

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Miyabi hasn't even reached 100k subscribers yet, and even he's getting a 3D model made.
I think 1m club Kiara is doing fine.

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>>7954777
God I hope EN 2 mogs her fast. Need to trigger her inferiority complex even harder.

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>>7960032
>Chris Bumstead
>"Who is Chris Bumstead" I ask myself before googling
>Get this
Jesus, please don't tell me this is the standards for women nowadays

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>>7957304
Yes hats are cute, but having two hats like that looks retarded. Her design would be a lot better without that stupid chef hat.

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>>7955011
The initial point was that her fanbase is diehard loyal to her. The number doesn't matter.

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>>7960606
She's already mogged by her gemmates and Irys, of course gen 2 will mog her

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>>7961513
No and that's the thing.
Social media has poisoned men into thinking if they're not as massive as Cbum they're shit when in reality most women who like in shape guys just want someone with a decently in shape physique. Much like how it's poisoned us in thinking 'oh you don't have a Diamond Play Button? Fucking garbage.'

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She's a manipulative menhera, and not in an entertaining way. She's also terribly unfunny.

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loving all the art in here!

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Is it wrong that despite knowing all her flaws I'd still fuck her Roommate?

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>>7962274
3DPD is fucking disgusting.

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She loves streaming and doesn’t mind completing long ass games despite low views.

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>>7954777
Kiara just needs to figure out what her buff games can be. She needs to branch out and start experimenting. If I were her, I'd start analyzing the Twitch metas and try copying them. She also needs to realize that she's in a great spot if she ever wants to transition away from Hololive. Unlike some of the other HoloEN girls, Kiara is actually attractive, and she's got a fanatical cult following. She could easily transition to normal, non-VTube, streaming and continue to pull in a shit ton of money. If anything, she's handicapping her earning potential by sticking with Hololive instead of jumping ship to Twitch and getting a way bigger cut of donation money/subs.

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>>7962339
She even had to turn off superchats in the middle of one of them and she still finished the game.

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>>7962386
She did alright at VF5 in Yakuza 7. Really well for a first time. Better than Mori has ever done with GG. I would love it if she at least tried out a fightan game, but I don't see it happening.

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>>7962412
She also has a habit of playing FOTM games months after the hype is gone.

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>>7961665
Diehard loyal fanbase is a scary thing. They could even keep Kira yamato in the top 10 most popular male character list for fucking 15 years

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>>7962386
>Unlike some of the other HoloEN girls, Kiara is actually attractive

Really? I thought Kiara was the least attractive out of the five, assuming the photos posted here are all legit. No accounting for taste, I guess. She's not ugly or anything, though, and she can actually handle real-life streams, so she might have an out similar to Coco's.

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>>7962613
She also refuses to play two easy and popular game streaming genres, FPS and horror, just because she doesn’t want to.

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>>7955071
She’s a drama queen and KFPs are probably the easiest to bait. It’s like everything that 4chan lived for

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The only problem I've ever had was Kiara (or maybe a manager who pushed the idea?) forcing the gay dynamic between her and Calli. I get the way it works mixed with lore but it was pushy. Otherwise I'm fine with her.

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>>7963109
For me it’s the voice and being stubborn for a wrong reason.

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>>7963109
It’s part of the character and the ship has always been something they agreed upon before debuting. It’ll continue to exist as long as they’re good friends and are having fun with it.

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>>7962776
This is one of the reasons I really like Kiara. I'll never be a Tales fan but I'll take it over Apex or Outlast anyday.

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>>7962776
FPS is a fucking garbage genre and horror is only good for clips of cute Japanese girls screaming

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>>7962776
I'll defend Kiara on this one. There are so many damn FPS and horror streams, why do you really need more?

I like the idea of Kiara's JRPG streams, but I still don't like Kiara that much. I wish someone else would stream Atelier or whatever too.

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>>7954777
I honestly don't think any of them thought that.

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>>7955603
Yep. Only one that's rpg like would be Breath of the Wild.

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>>7955654
I have heard people say that Skyward Sword was the worst Zelda.

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>>7964007
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are worse

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>>7961553
this, desu I think this is the single biggest reason I dislike her.

It looks fucking retarded, who is responsible for this?!
Her artist is top tier, is it her sole input for this abomination of design choice?!?

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>>7963841
You don’t need to defend her. It’s her personal preference. Sure a few horror and FPS games will probably help with her numbers, but she’d rather mess around playing VA and poking fun at her JRPGs with cute characters and that’s based in it’s own way.

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>>7954908
>never expected Gura to be the one to blow up
Wat? How can u not expect the girl who sang oki doki boomer song not to blow up. I heard that shit on tiktok and immediately knew she would be a star!

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>>7964007
Fairly common opinion, but I think it's more that it was disapointing and formulaic rather than bad. I enjoyed what little I played of it when it came out. >>7964189 is 100% correct.

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she’s so fucking annoying and loud during her collab.
also her kfp cult behaviour makes me hate her even more.

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>>7961553
It’s not a chef hat. It’s that paper thing you put on turkey legs.

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>>7964712
ESL bro..

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>>7964506
Dude, Gura doesn't even have a meme video on her channel, not even 1.

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>>7964785
Kiara antis must be really running out of stuff to whine about if we are now talking about OMG WTF TWO HATS. Especially after redjuice's abomination was unleashed.

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>>7964879
>replying to doxx bait

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>>7964879
We is talking about the moment she joined hololove, not the content she has on her channel now, doofus.

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>>7963966
>Only one that's rpg like would be Breath of the Wild.
Adventure of Link had some elements I believe. Could even say leveling up swords in some games counts, but that's semantics and grasping straws at that point.

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>>7964900
They absolutely are but no need to shit on Irys’ design. It’s cute in it’s own way. Not in the traditional sense, but still.

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she sounds much much better as claire pastry

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kiara's design is unironically better in every drawing that doesn't include the 2 hats
see >>7965115

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>>7969659
I got used to them already.

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>>7964931
>doxx
lol

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>>7964712
She should use her regular voice more.

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>kfp tranny discord raid on a mongolian weaving forum
>apparently cant raid their own oshi's channel while she streams to up her livecount
hilarious

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>>7955982
Americans are all contrarians, they see someone putting in very little effort and getting criticism so they rush to defend them. Also Mori likes rap and Americans worship blacks so it’s only natural. God forbid if there is ever a black in Hololive Americans will all make extra accounts to rush her to the top.

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>>7954908

I mean they used pochi on a girl from Indonesia, I don't think they select artists/riggers based on who would be the most popular.

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She does well in stuff like Gartic Phone, but she's constantly playing debuff games, so it's hard to watch her constantyl

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>>7955652

Doesn't Polka not read any SC?

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>>7972839
Why can’t I find her or Mori sexy? Objectively they have great bodies but there’s some mental block there. And I know I’m not gay I’ve had many experiments to make sure

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>>7955397

Does this include memberships? Because I think Gura probably has a lot more members than the rest just by saturation.

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>>7973883
More like they got lucky with Pochi being a friend of one of their indogs and commissioned her to keep the door open for future works

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>>7954777
At least she fighted down bunch of candidian
But i doubt the auditor already regreting his choice

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>>7973971
That's because you're a faggot.

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>>7962386
Kiara has serious debuff teeth

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>>7973971
Why should there be a reason for not finding something sexy?
However I have to ask, out of curiosity, do you base your opinion only in the looks of Mori/Kiara ?
Personally, the times I've musturbated to Kiara or Mori I have done so because I find their voices hot. I, too, don't find purely the avatars/the art that sexy but overall their concept etc.

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>>7974187
I clearly stated I wasn’t you faggot, I’ve sucked enough cock to know it’s not for me

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>>7954882
she hasnt been the least viewed for months, Kiara took the throne as worst EN a while ago.

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Last 10 streams including SC readings and public watchalongs

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>>7964945
> ESL and baitposting

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>>7962386
>kiara just needs to figure out what her buff games can be
thats not her issue
>shes the most attractive
not true at all, and if you're talking roomates, even less true even when shes caked in makeup
her issue is her awful personality, and grating stream voice. She needs to graduate for her own health (shes gonna fuck up her vocal cords if she keeps it up) and for the benefit of the other EN girls (more views on collab streams, because her presence alone drives people away)

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She's really tryhard rather than fun. I like Amelia more despite Kiara easily having more skills than her

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>>7954777
Would Kiara have taken off if she had the power of cunny?

Would she have been an adorable kusogaki instead of the ME ME ME she is today?

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>>7954908
This but unironically, i refuse to believe they don't know how trash Gura's rigger actually is and everyone that used to have their L2D made by him eventually got an upgraded version.

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Speaking of, isn't polka like oil magnate levels of rich?

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>>7954908
Keffiy only did Watame by the time Kiara debuted. He was no big name. Also, Kuroboshi is technically a bigger name than Huke. So nice aged rrat. Try again later.

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>>7974773
her other Gen mates gets mostly more in SC so what are you basing this of?

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>>7974433
You know, I think so.
Image a Kiara sized Gura with boobs.

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>>7975124
Holo needs a proper oppai loli, hope EN2 delivers

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>>7955309
It literally makes more sence that you kill yourself since youre the retarded one, fucking fag

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>>7955451
do you have a mental disability? it literally doesnt matter if it was the same person, hello? what does that have to do with anything you fucking chimpanzee

KFPs just have a mental disability

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>>7974196
>finding that screeching chicken voice hot

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>>7954777
did you expect to be the biggest faggot?
>>7954834
( y o u )

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>>7974494
Facts

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>>7955451
kiara anti threads always have the most atrocious english for some reason. and they get extremely defensive when you point it out as well. it would be easier to take their shit seriously if they actually knew how to communicate.

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>>7954777
She didn't expected to be mogged by everyone else including NijiEN and Vshojo.

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HoloEN 2 will have gone past her before this year is over

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>>7963046
something's fucky

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>>7955397
Mori is not doing good lately

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>>7955660
Mori has an auto generated channel for music's with +20 millions views

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>>7954908
>expend resources on the phoenix
>shark and nacho just out-SOVL the entire gen
Gura is a rare specimen. I am glad she didn't make it as a voice actress because this way we get to hear more of her.

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The wost thing about Kiara is her fanbase and antis. The rest is subjective.

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>>7954908
Retard

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>>7954908
Kiara herself said that she choosed huke, cover didn't decided that. Same with Ina.

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>>7978168
Two of them will have. 1 will be close. Another will have to wait til next year for 1m. The 5th will be Luna/Flare tier.

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>>7954777
Good, she deserves it, hopefully she graduates too.

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Kiara being an SJW is why she gets the least amount of viewers. She also has the most SJW audience

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>>7954908
Shame that Huke ended up making his worst character design ever.

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>>7973981
no. it's playboard so it's just sc

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>>7973928
Well the answer to that is easy but you don't watch her so...

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>>7954777
OP you probably didn't expect to be a massive disappointment to your family and still living in your parents' basement spending your free time shitposting about virtual idols who make 100x your income, and yet here we are

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>>7956007
I'm still buying the rrat that Huke wanted the hats to be worn one at a time, but Kiara kept both on to overcompensate

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>>7990801
>spending your free time shitposting about virtual idols who make 100x your income,
100 times 0 is still zero, anon

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>>7990801
I don't know what happened in your life, but projecting this hard isn't healthy

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>>7983738
Proofs? Because I distinctly remember her saying that they just got assigned them.

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>>7961513
thats genuinely grotesque, jfc

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>>7991271
There's no way i'm gonna find the exact moment anon... I just remember them saying that. Maybe a KFP can help with that.

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>>7976162
Honestly this. I thought the ESL antis was a myth but these are something else. I’d believe they’re bots but computers have spellchecks, don’t they?

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>>7991444
Then until then, all I can give you is an ogey.

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>>7991546
Do you have proof about this claim then? >>7991271

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>>7991585
Member’s stream

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>>7991839
I'm a member, in what stream did she say that?

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>>7991271
Nigger why did you reply to
> choosed
You should have just left it at that.

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>>7954777
ollie is most hated not chicken

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Reminder that she literally prostituted herself in Japan and you can find old 2014 cgl threads with her nudes.

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>>7996869
>liberal women

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>>7973928
She literally have a dedicated SC reading song

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>>7959537
Dosn't this show Mori was impressive for realeasing multiple song by herself without cover help, often with her own video animation too? It's a lot of work even if you don't like her songs.

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>>7956877
I don't hate any of them, I do hate some of their fanbases however and will thus shit on the talents trying to hurt their fans.

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Why do you retards keep having this stupid discussion when Kiara doesn't even care? Its been weeks since she talked about numbers and her low views this week didn't bother her in the slightest. Numbers go up and down all the time, Kiara already had a gaming stream with 50k with Ryza, she already has dealt with and come to terms with the games she likes not gaining views, she will still play them nonetheless (she did with Ryza with no SCs activated after all). Imagine that, its like you guys want Kiara to cry, whine and complain. You guys are the real numberfags and its pathetic.

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>>7964007
>>7964585

only faggots like cuckgrumps and egofag hate skyward sword. and everyone else jumped on the hate bandwagon when none of them played it.
its objectively one of the best games, the bosses are some of the best bosses in the entire series. and very good pacing and progression, ocarina of time and wind waker for example had horrendous progression and a horrible difficulty and exploration curve.

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>>7974247
>I’ve sucked enough cock to know it’s not for me

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>>7997521
>its like you guys want Kiara to cry, whine and complain
People hated her on this site before vtubers were a thing. Kiara really is a nasty cunt through and through.

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>>7974247
>>7997738
kekked

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I only watch Kiara, she used to stream in my afternoons and I like hearing her talk.
Shes genuinely entertaining sometimes, even if her voice may be filtering to some.

Ina is super boring and her accent filters me.
Ames fake voice is super annoying and it always feels like shes really not amused by anything.
Gura is dumb and I can't stand her jokes.
I never bothered to watch Mori

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>>7997831
>Ina is super boring and her accent filters me.
>Ames fake voice is super annoying and it always feels like shes really not amused by anything.
>Gura is dumb and I can't stand her jokes.
>I never bothered to watch Mori
Based. Now you only need to drop Kiara.

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>>7997739
Life is hard for a schizo, isn't it?

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>>7997739
>Kiara really is a nasty cunt
I'd ask for your source, but I really don't need to see a picture of your asshole

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>>7954908
I'm going to blow up everyone in this thread with c4

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>>7997875
I did
I dropped all vtubers

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>>7954777
no

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>>7997886
What?

>>7997882
You would know. Anyways if you look up her name in the archives you'll find enough dirt to your heart's content.

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>>7998133
>You would know
Of course, I'd know because I get to see (you) shitting up the board with "orange woman bad" threads every time ban runs out.

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>>7954777
Subconsciously yes

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>>8001736
>page 10
>number of posters didn't increase
Just off yourself

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>>8001820
Bitch this is the first time I post in this thread

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>>7997831
>Ames fake voice is super annoying and it always feels like shes really not amused by anything.
She is literally ME
Jaded piece of shit. I love her bros. She also has a stacy voice idc what you people say.

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>>7954834
They expected EN to have shit numbers in general, so it would make sense that they would expect the ones that speak Japanese to perform the best. EN just blew all expectations out of the water.

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>>7954834
Because they think the TakaMori ship is gonna be the biggest hit, except it only reels in the yuri faggots

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>>7954777
>and least viewed genmate?
Thats Ina, she is like 15 million views below Kiara. Kiara herself is only 4 million below Ame.
Cover probably expected her to be bigger than she ended up being, in comparison to her Genmates. But obviously all of EN blew up beyond their wildest expectations.

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>>7997739
the cunt is you

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No. She worked hard to make herself unpopular. Doesn't matter really since she's relying on her few dedicated viewers for superchats. She relegated herself to being the Flare of HoloEN.

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>>7997739
>People hated her on this site before vtubers were a thing.
Trannies on /cgl/ are not people.

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>>7954777
Gen 2 is coming so that will no longer be the case

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she had the lowest numbers in her gen from the start. she improved massively after the first 2 months - imo she's the best one of the 5 - but people don't usually give second chances

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>>8012405
This. I hated her at the start, it took me 6 months to give her another chance and now she's my 2nd favorite. Kiara's good points aren't obvious unlike the other girls, you have to give her time to grow in you, sadly most other people aren't like that, and base their opinions on the first impression.

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Me speak JP and ESL but i fell she is kind person.
Stop making fun of her.

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>>8015262
>i fell she is kind person
shes objectively not, and all of the proof is publicly available online. The hate she gets honestly isn't enough.

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>>7954908
>and rigger on Kiara
Isn't Mori's rigger like an actual god or something? What a waste of a perfect model.

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>>8015339
you are autistic.
I watched her roommate videos and i understand she was just want to be an idle in Japan.

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>>8015339
Holy fucking delusional lmao.

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>>8015339
Oh no no he still believes in the debunked rrats.

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>>8015397
yeah there's more to it than that, no ones concerned about her roomate videos. people hate her because of her posts on 2ch, /cgl/ etc.

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>>8015339
Go back to your discord and keep sucking your schizo admin cock please.

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>>8015481
Again, bunch of debunked rrats, get something new.

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>>8002068
>schizo
>ESL
>samefag
Checks out.

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>>7954777
HONEstly that face is fucking annoying PLEASE FUCKING STOP POSTING THAT FACE FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUCK

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>>8015481
>people hate her because of her posts on 2ch, /cgl/ etc.
Jesus, imagine giving a shit about any of this. This is beyond the bottom of the barrel stuff, it's like digging into the stone the barrel was sitting on.

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>>8015614
Stop feeling superior just because you are born in English countries.

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>>8015397
Idle what?

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>>8015652
Pls understand, they have nothing, kiara has been on a roll recently, and her appearances on cons being a fucking blast have them desperate to shit on her and create shitty threads like this one, it's so funny.

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>>8015733
Idol

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>>8015615
Mori, please go to sleep.

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>>8015733
google didn't fix language again.

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>>8015652
there's nothing but gossip from EOP lolcow/cgl whores with actual jealousy issues.

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>>8012405
She’s improved for sure, but it’s crazy how important the debut/early momentum was. She still has room for improvement though. Like I can deal with her character voice but I’d like her so much more if she dropped it. That and she needs to be less scared of video games, kinda like how IRyS has no fear of dying in game

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Let's be honest, the only thing she's good for is to be one of the translators between EN and JP.

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They all expected to pull ID numbers.
She makes a ton in superchats tho so she's winning where it matters.

She's also proof that dumb fuck EOPs(like people on this board), don't want Hololive content, her streaming style is like a typical JP girl but she gets less views, but the retarded twitch gremlins are the most popular.