/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Greatest EN Gen of All Time. No other gen comes close. They will never be topped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Golden gen

[Anonymous No.]

if theyre the best gen why dont i find any of them funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Carried hard by Fuwamoco, otherwise it's 3 Reddit tier personalities

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
It is very funny that they are STILL all just using their default png images for events and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335003
>>79335061
I'm sorry you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
No. They're well rounded, everyone is good besides Nerissa, but just because everyone is good doesn't mean they're the best gen. They lack a peak figure, like Pekora and Marine to Gen 3, Subaru and Aqua to Gen 2, Miko to Gen 0 and Korone to Gamers

They're similar with Gen 5, every member is good but none you'd think like "they're the best in hololive". Only bau bau get near that

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335003
show tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335171
My thoughts exactly. I “like” all of Advent, but even just in EN, Gura, Fauna, and Mumei peak higher for me. FWMC is too niche to watch more than just occasionally, and Biboo’s zatsu game is lacking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
I don't even know the difference between 1 and 5 and 3 and 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Third gen is always the best. Sankisei and Advent.

[Anonymous No.]

Without Fuwamoco this gen would be completely forgotten. Extremely disappointing debut weeks, Biboo didn't live up to her initial hype, Nerissa got a bit better but Shiori stayed the same boring autist who thinks she's owed something because she started Vtubing before Gura.

The lack of personality outside Fuwamoco is shocking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
This somehow made me worry about holoID; they absolutely reached the stratosphere with ID3. There's absolutely no way that the fourth ID gen would be better...

[Anonymous No.]

>>79336134
>shiori
>boring
Watch stream sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
>Shiori
>Nerissa
>Bijou

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335061
FWMC are dropping HARD after morphing into numberfags. Biboo is the new leader of Advent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335061
hey hey FUCK YOU
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT MY ROCK WIFE

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335061
Fuck you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Hakka's harem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335171
I don’t think Nerissa is bad. Better than Shiori imo because she at least has a nice voice and a normal human thought process. Her issue is she’s kind of like another Kronii in terms of possessing both some obvious talent but also some glaring flaws that you keep hoping she’ll overcome some day as she gains more streaming experience, but never quite seems to grow out of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
>biboo very clearly standing on a box
heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
They're basically HoloXEN or HoloEN BLACK
that's why they look so high quality and solid

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Why did doggos give up doing shorts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79336892
I love shioris non human thought process, nerissa is a normie

[Anonymous No.]

>holo vs holo
>advent vs advent
Shouldn't you sisters be buying tickets for your NijiEN concert? Oh, wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Best Gen
Best group collabs
Best passion for streaming
Rock wife love

[Anonymous No.]

>>79337231
>Nerissa is a normie
Yes, the perfect housewife candidate.

[Anonymous No.]

Then why don't they have a single consistent 5view member?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335074
They won't get personalized poses until 3D's roll out. It's the same with all of them for every gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79337231
>>79336892
I think they are both cute

[Anonymous No.]

>Myth
Gura (10/10)
Mori (6/10)
Ina (5/10)
Ame (4/10)
Kiara (3/10)
Total: 28
>Promise
Fauna (9/10)
Mumei (8/10)
IRyS (7/10)
Bae (4/10)
Kronii (4/10)
Total: 32
>Advent
Biboo (7/10)
FWMC (6/10) x2
Nerissa (5/10)
Shiori (3/10)
Total: 27
>Justice
Cici (8/10)
Raora (7/10)
Gigi (4/10)
ERB (3/10)
Total: (22 + 5.5 gen average) 27.5

Promise > Myth > Justice > Advent. Promise’s top 3 is just too strong. They clear the field enough that even if I were to tweak the scores to give the most optimistic reflection of every other gen that I’m willing to give, the FaumeiRyS core would keep them on top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
>Myth
Gura (10/10)
Mori (10/10)
Ina (10/10)
Ame (10/10)
Kiara (10/10)
Total: 50
>Promise
Fauna (10/10)
Mumei (10/10)
IRyS (10/10)
Bae (10/10)
Kronii (10/10)
Total: 50
>Advent
Biboo (10/10)
FWMC (10/10) x2
Nerissa (10/10)
Shiori (10/10)
Total: 50
>Justice
Cici (10/10)
Raora (10/10)
Gigi (10/10)
ERB (10/10)
Total: (40 + 10 gen average) 50

Hololive is perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
trying to fit in too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
Retard
>>79338950
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
Decent list, only changes I'd make:
>swap Mori and Ame
>swap Mumei and Fauna
>give Bae one point (she's harmless so far as homocollabers go and genuinely talented and hardworking)
>swap Biboo and Shiori
>dock ERB one point

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338950
Remove erb and we have perfection

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
>Kronii and Bae in the same level
I'm an unicorn yet Bae is way better than Kronii
>Cici(8/10)
>Raora(7/10)
New meat syndrome, give a few months and that will drop several points

[Anonymous No.]

I like both Promise and Advent.
Myth(except Gura and Ina) and Justice(except CC and Gigi)can fuck off and I wouldn't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>79336538
Ruffian here. They're as cute as always, but their obvious numberfagging (going as far as as putting a subscriber counter on a goddamn vertical stream) is off-putting. It's nice they have a goal of 1 million, but they're the biggest holos of their gens, I doubt they need to be this obvious. I also wonder if the japan pandering will be a good thing in the long run or not

[Anonymous No.]

Promise >= Advent
Promise has three 10/10 members, Advent only has Biboo. FuwaMoco are still really good but not as good as they used to be. But on the other hand, neither Nerissa nor Shiori is anywhere near Bae or Kronii levels bad.
If I had to rank them
>Fauna
>IRyS
>Biboo
>Mumei
>Shiori
>FuwaMoco
>Nerissa
>Kronii(she has atlesst improved herself and is again in CGDCT fragment)
>Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Theres no asmr girl so how can advent be the best?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340226
Also, I would like to add Shiori is like a 9/10 for me now.
I was completely wrong about her, she deserves all the world

[Anonymous No.]

Promise>=Advent>>>Council>Myth with Gura>Justice>>Myth without Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340226
>>79340329
Shiori is not better than FWMC, you Novelcuck

[Anonymous No.]

In a perfect world, the best generation would consist of
>Shiori
>Biboo
>IRyS
>Fauna
>Cecelia/Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340106
For what it's worth, their split fucking loves their numberfagging, albeit /baubau/ was infested by the worst of /#/ during the house moving drought.
And the Japan pandering has been the constant topic there after the move too, with seemingly half of them preferring the twins to have regular English streams again instead of doing 3Dwhoknowswhat in preparation for this summer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79336538
Biboo gets mogged in everything but CCV by the FWMC. Yes Biboo is leader in ccv but seems like she has very little gachis or paying customers
>muh BD merch
Every sells well on those

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
midvent

[Anonymous No.]

>>79339526
>biboo swap go a 3/10
Nah fuck of chumbud wtf you fags always tryna shit on Biboo??? Fuck no if anyone is 3/10 in advent it’s Shiori and her weird as fucking tastes

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Honestly aside from Shiori i'm not that interested by any of them
Biboo can be funny at times and Bau bau are good when it comes to the art of streaming but the teletubbies atmosphere have limits, and they're not very funny per se (I also expected to be more impressed than that with their songs)

Nerissa should amaze me with her singing and make my pp hard with her model but she's too American and lesbian for her own good (and her singing, despite being really good, got absolutely blasted away in terms of pure showmanship by ERB)

There's only Shiori left, her voice + completely autistic behavior make my pp go uncontrollably hard and I have difficulties explaining why

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335171
> like Pekora
Anon, she has a very ordinary figure. I think you mistake her for her mom, that carried her both in streams and her life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79343297
Her weird as fuck tastes are her best part though

[Anonymous No.]

>>79336538
Bijou's streams are botted and that's a good thing according to Pebblekeks

[Anonymous No.]

Completely balanced gen. The fact that most people only really like one means that they successfully crated a gen that appeals to a wide range of demographics. Its clear that Justice they attempted the same thing because of how great advent is

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334815
BUT NONE OF THEM ARE GOLD, STOP SAYING THIS, I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

[Anonymous No.]

>>79343135
>she has very little gachis or paying customers
she's not trying to farm those in the first place, she lives a modest life and mostly streams because it's something she loves and finds as fun. That's why she streams for such long hours and plays fromsoft games that she can't even turn SC's on for. Even when she had streams where she got bombarded with red superchats she got all flustered and promised her fans she'll use that money to upgrade her PC for a better stream experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
They're great, but Promise is better

[Anonymous No.]

>>79339699
(Not OP) Bae is a top dog performer, one can argue she can clear the entirety of EN on stage, but how many 3D stage appearances do you even get in a year even if she lives in Japan now? If you're reliable, with good networking, and some luck you get at most what? 15?
Compare that to the rest of the year where 95% of their contents comes from streaming, Kronii can just do some nonsense stream with her sex voice and doomer persona to gather interest every other week, and the coomers on this board would convince themselves she's been feminized. On the other hand, the only thing Bae has going for her is the Normie Learning Video Games experience, other than that she's a physically active, socially active workaholic who showers everyday and has aspiration and life goals, so basically everything that is a disconnect to your average /vt/ anon if not just the average vtuber fan in general.
Even if Bae is 10/10 on the stage, we get so little of that and so much of 3/10 streaming, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79339526
I agree with Mori ame swap

[Anonymous No.]

>>79344217
This is the best answer
None of them are the same, but they all mesh well and have their own fan base.
Advent streams are always kino as well

[Anonymous No.]

>Myth
Gura (10/10)
Mori (4/10)
Ina (7/10)
Ame (4/10) (8 when streaming with Gura)
Kiara (9/10)
Total: 34/50 (38 when Ame & Gura are together) = 0.68 to 0.76

>Promise
Fauna (7/10)
Mumei (7/10) (3 when doing her psychopath/yandere schtick)
IRyS (10/10)
Bae (5/10)
Kronii (3/10)
Total: 32/50 (28 when Mumei is being a psycho) = 0.64 to 0.56

>Advent
Biboo (10/10)
FWMC (10/10) x2
Nerissa (7/10)
Shiori (4/10)
Total: 41/50 = 0.82

>Justice
Cici (10/10)
Raora (8/10)
Gigi (8/10)
ERB (2/10)
Total: 28/40 = 0.6

So by this metric, yes:
Advent > Myth > Promise > Justice
But to be fair to Justice, Justice just debuted. Gigi and Raora's rating can easily go up given time. Also this is based off CURRENT Myth. Advent is about as good as COVID Myth, which was an entirely different ballgame. There's a possibility COVID Myth would have outshined Advent by about one point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
it is true I am sorry for doubting them

[Anonymous No.]

What did they accomplish other than farming a mentally ill fanbase that was already there ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79346945
Bringing renewed interest to Holo EN?
Disproving the rrat that Yagoo was just going to debut only Holostars?
That applicants would have a chance at getting into Hololive EN?
Getting previous to talent work harder after the Omega drama, leading to reforms and rebranding?
Following on that last point = Gura streaming "a bit more", Council + Irys rebranding as Promise

and last but not least

In Bijou, a new outlet for ex-chumbuds who just wanted a cute gamer memelord CGDCT that Gura was not giving them after so long?

Take your pick, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79344700
It's easier because she lives with her boyfriend who can help cover expenses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
This is a prime example of numbermonkeys bias.
Their rotting brains can't comprehend the difference between talented girls and talentless pandering unicorn girls.
To these monkeys, it's okay if their talentless girls only provide the sloppiest contents because they only watch upside-down CCV numbers instead the contents of streams themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Personality wise yes, design wise no.
FWMC are the best ones but they scream "generic vtuber from an anime"
Biboo is unique but the execution looks like a Chinese indie and her silhouette is a penis
Shiori and Rissa share the same hue but both have good designs on their own

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338950
Dangerously based post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338950
A real dorito fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347193
Literally all of this would have happened with anyone else though
By the way spamming streams is the laziest way to make content

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347320
Disagree, but I do agree that Advent's overall design plays too hard into the specific goth aesthetic. Biboo stands out too much by not being goth and FWMC are too "pastel" to be pastel goth. Only Nerissa and Shiori commit to the goth bit, but with that it mind it feels like the group wiuld be typecast as the "goth girls" if Shiori and Nerissa were singled out. Its not like Myth and Promise that were pretty wide-randing in what they covered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347522
>Literally all of this would have happened with anyone else though

No. Not at all.

A new JP gen will not bring renewed interest to EN. Hell, that would also be like saying debuting Two Stars EN would bring interest - and we know how that turned out.
At least three of the Advent girls were people who tried to get into Hololive but failed. Of special note were the twins, who were well-known even before Hololive but their graduation was quite the sad story. That Yagoo saved them was a testament to their hard work.
Also, ex-chumbuds are not going to be interested in a JP Gura, they want an EN Gura. There's a reason why Idol EN banked on a Gura killer like Yuko Yurei. But ex-chumbies also prefer Holo debuts, which Bijou is

>spamming streams is the laziest way to make content

Well better to stream 'something' than not stream at all. Chumbies go crazy at a 30 minute zatsu by Gura. And Advent have been pretty consistent with their content instead of spamming. (Well, except for maybe Shiori. I'm not a novelite so I dont speak for her) But I'm quite happy with Advent's general content and their interactions with the rest of EN.

Now, if only Gura interacted with Advent more.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
They're great. Biboo and FWMC have been rock solid since debut. Shiori took some getting used to, but she's also very respectable and her contributions in Advent collabs keep things interesting. Nerissa is still a bit boring to me, but she's also fine in collabs, so no problem there. Myth might be slightly better if not for Mori, but as it stands Advent is the best EN gen to date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347522
>Literally all of this would have happened with anyone else though
swap advent with justice and tell me a gen with somebody as devised as ERB would've revived the interest in holo EN the way somebody like FMWC and biboo did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348348
bro your Shiori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347522
>>79348348 has a point. I consider Shiori to be the runt of her gen, but she didn't homocollab. And she leaned into the gfe quite well. But she had some good moments with her gen and senpais (like the bants she had with Irys)
ERB has much to prove, and Advent is way too special for what they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348348
The hate ERB's getting is paltry compared to the level of hype and subsequent backlash Shiori got

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care who's the best but it's the only gen where their fans usually like pretty much everyone in the group

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348472
lmao Shiori isn't as bad as ERB, not even close. Hell you really need to try hard to be as bad as ERB I don't even think the worst version of Mori is as bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
>They will never be topped.
Weird, I top all of them every night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348732
>level of hype and subsequent backlash Shiori got
Literally go fuck yourself. The amount of shitposting towards ERB floors any other girl for the simple face that she actively engages in the homos. Don't saviorfag Shiori just because she got treated badly

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348865
Sorry, but your perception is way off the mark here

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340226
>Promise has three 10/10 members
Promiseshills have the most extreme bias. The believe that initially a failure of Gen is above Peak Myth.
Their rationale most likely boils down to "Myth abandoned us, but at least CouncilRyS streams for us 10/10".
They at least came into their own, but they will never top Advent. I can give you the win over Myth since Myth is dysfunctional nowadays. Doesn't make Promise better in absolute terms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348732
>paltry
that is not true at all, you could argue the backlash is on the same level (it is not). but even if it was shiori never do shit, ERB has a book worth of homo interactions and that is only her first week on the job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347247
>gave Mori a higher score than Ina, Kiara, Nerissa, Shiori, and Gigi
Ogey retard. Other than ERB who sucks off the homos to an obnoxious degree, I didn’t really factor it in to the equation at all. Bae, Kronii, and Ame all have other faults that lower their scores.

[Anonymous No.]

FuwaMoco is just a spam of the same thing over and over and over and over again
Nerissa has literally done nothing interesting, released only 1 original song in a year, while being the singer of the gen
Biboo just spams games no one cares about
Shiori is doing her own thing, no one cares about her besides her gachis

But they are GFE so they MUST be the best gen of all times, surely

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348865
No.
Shiori had a smear campaign against her organized by a certain someone, plus a number of retards shitposting about her constantly.
ERB shitposting has been honestly shockingly restrained, considering what she is doing. This is because I suspect the sisters and the homobeggars want to use her as a tool to sow discord, so instead their threads tends to be "lol, she is owning the unichuds", which is far easier to ignore and doesn't attack anyone but a subset of fans (who don't even care).

[Anonymous No.]

>>79349064
I'm talking about reception. Around this time after Advent's debut there would still be a dozen highly active bait threads about Shiori. ERB isn't that divisive, she just filtered people who don't want to see homos

[Anonymous No.]

Here's my take
>Gura is the goat
>Kronii and Shiori are charming and strongest when doing solo
>Nerissa and Liz with only live in Calli's shadow
>Bae and Mumei have endless potentials
>Fauna, Kiara,Ina and Cecilia are the four horsemen of zatsudan
>Irys is dumb (I love here)
>Ame is the dark horse
>Biboo, Raora and Gigi are fodders

[Anonymous No.]

Remember last year when everyone was saying "2 years of waiting for this CRAP 2/5 gen ?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350318
next time keep it to yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
it's amazing what you can get when you have streamers that don't hate streaing like gura, ame, calli, ina (50/50, she does only chill quiet streams, dont talk during collabs, etc), sana, kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350318
>fodders
Dude, Raora zatsu game is very strong, amd Biboo is a cunny who is actually good at games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350318
>Biboo
>fodder

You were doing good until you said this

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350401
Without fail the debut tourists eventually file out and the actual fans grow accustomed to the new talents and develop more even-handed perspective of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
nah. Myth would still win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
Shiori... she fat

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350401
Actually I remember mostly positive feedback, but maybe I've been /here/ so much that I automatically filter out obvious shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347233
i'd feel extremely bad for her boyfriend if she had one, not being able to get any attention from her at all while she streams for 12 hours and almost every day for her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
I top them in bed every night

[Anonymous No.]

imagine going back in time and showing this to someone while this board was complaining about RESPECT MY COLLAB CHOICES, calling FWMC Blues Clues for adults, calling Nerissa a sex pest etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350318
>Nerissa and Liz with only live in Calli's shadow
Considering Mori is a shadow of her former self, this is pretty grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350815
It's fine because she uses him as a chair.
How do I know this? It's because it's me.
I'm the boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

keep up the good work sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350901
How heavy is she

[Anonymous No.]

>>79349042
>is above Peak Myth
No, definitely way above Myth(2022 onwards)

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340106
>(going as far as as putting a subscriber counter on a goddamn vertical stream)
Multiple Holos have been doing this, even before FWMC started to, eg Watame, Noel, Hajime. I also think it's abit off-putting, but it's not a uniquely theirs problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79351708
The problem is they do it more times than they don't. It's so out of touch for regular holo streams, it's really shitty behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347247
now in english?

[Anonymous No.]

How can you consider Advent like a good gen when there's a NijiShojo collaber inside, a channel with Rushia tier schizos as their fanbase ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79351779
Literally every Holo vertical stream I've seen pop up has had the subscriber count, hell other chuubas and even normal streamers have it on screen as well, what's your point? That's not to say the doggos aren't numberfags, but this isn't proof of it, unless you're calling every other Holo doing the same thing a numberfag too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79343135
>she has very little gachis
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350872
I'm convinced the whole reason from justice is to made advent look good lore wise and in real life it worked

[Anonymous No.]

>>79351892
>a NijiShojo collaber inside

If you're talking about Nerissa, yes. Nerissa may collab with Nijis, but she's not a homocollaber (yet) That said, Rissa has been too entrenched in idol culture, not to mention her hard fangirling for Kiara, that I doubt she'd want to risk homocollabs. I have a feeling a bit of Irys rubbed off on her too.

>a channel with Rushia tier schizos as their fanbase

If you mean Shiori - no comment. I have yet to see Shiori go full Rushia.
If you mean Fuwamoco - ruffians are more like chumbuds. The twins may encourage parasocial behaviour and GFW, but they're playing a character. They know their kayfabe. Rushia was not playing a character and was exploiting her audience to an absurd degree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340106
>>79351708
I don't mind unless the streamer does it on vertical streams that do not work for the stream content like some games, but it is just a viewer experience thing for me. If it's chatting or singing I think it's okay. Either way it won't put me off from watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
>Myth
Gura (10/10)
Mori (5/10)
Ina (5/10)
Ame (5/10)
Kiara (5/10)
Total:30
>Promise
Fauna (8/10)
Mumei (8/10)
IRyS (7/10)
Bae (4/10)
Kronii (4/10)
Total: 31
>Advent
Biboo (7/10)
FWMC (8/10) x2
Nerissa (5/10)
Shiori (3/10)
Total: 31
>Justice
Cici (8/10)
Raora (7/10)
Gigi (5/10)
ERB (1/10)
Total:21

this my list, fuwamaco are MONSTERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
actual zoomerpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>79352284
What makes Gura better than FWMC for you, chumbud? Not that I'm disagreeing, just curious. Also curious to hear what you think Biboo is lacking that Gura has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79352353
Zoomers are widely accepted now. Gen alpha is the new punching bag

[Anonymous No.]

>>79350318
>Kronii is strongest when doing solo
Nigga, the one saving grace of Kronii is she’s great in collabs. Her solo streams are boring as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
No. They're all cute, but Shiori is the only funny one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79352284
Numbers are scuffed to evaluate them properly.

>Myth
Gura (TALENT!)
Mori (Okay)
Ina (Okay)
Ame (Okay)
Kiara (Okay)
Collabs:(Very Good)
Total: Myth is a okay gen with a big outlier being Gura.
>Promise
Fauna (Very good)
Mumei (Very good)
IRyS (VERY good)
Bae (Good)
Kronii (Okay)
Collabs: (Amazing)
Total: Needed some more time in the oven, it's well baked now.
>Advent
Biboo (Very Good)
FWMC (Excellent)
Nerissa (Good)
Shiori (Good)
Collabs: (Very Good)
Total: Golden Gen, they did everything right here, an example to follow.
>Justice
Cici (Seems good)
Raora (Don't care)
Gigi (Don't care)
ERB (Don't care)
Collabs (Don't care)
Total: Still too early to judge them, but they're not up to a good start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
>Myth
Ame 8/10
Gura 8/10
Ina 7/10
Kiara 7/10
Mori 1/10
31/50
>Promise
Bae 5/10
Fauna 10/10
IRyS 5/10
Kronii 3/10
Mumei 5/10
+4 Chemistry bonus
32/50
>Advent
Bijou 8/10
FUWAMOCO 15/20
Nerissa 3/10
Shiori 7/10
+4 Chemistry bonus
37/50
>Justice
Cecilia 8/10
Elizabeth 2/10
Gigi 4/10
Raora 6/10
20/40

[Anonymous No.]

>>79353188
I also would like to change Mumei to (Good) because my own bias got in the way, she lacks content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79347925
One of the weirdest complaints I get is that Advent streams too often and in the case of Biboo too long and I'm like "Seriously you're bitching about getting content?" I get it's bad if you're OCD about missing streams and you look at the massive backlog of Biboo long runs and over 100 Fuwamoco mornings But fact is a streamer cannot do anything unless they want to stream.
And agreed

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
>>79350318
>>79339526
>>79346449
>>79352284
>>79353188
Gura's a 2, maybe 3/10 at best. Boring as fuck garbage content for retards like (You). Literally all 5 Advent members are way more entertaining than she's ever been. But this board is filled with delusional chumcope so what do you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

biboo carries advent

[Anonymous No.]

My lore matchups with Justice and Advent
>Cece/Biboo
Rock hard and durable
>Raora/FWMC
Cat and dogs rivalry
>Gigi/Nerissa
Gamer gremlin vs idolfag
>ERB/Shiori
Leaders

[Anonymous No.]

>>79354532
Geez anon. I do love Bijou & FWMC, but Gura's fame is not without precedent. It was hard earned. Gura was an experienced streamer prior to debuting in Hololive, and she managed to reach 1 million subs with a month. Before anyone else in Hololive. (she even beat Korone and Fubuki to that punch) Nowdays Gura commands the highest CCV and its for a good reason - she IS entertaining.

But HEY - I also think Bijou is the second coming of Gura and fulfills many of the roles Gura once played. I do think Bijou could take over Gura in one aspect, but other then that Biboo is pretty great. I wish Gura didn't hate her so much....

[Anonymous No.]

I find this constant holo v holo gen v gen shit tiresome. Is this what holobronies and nijisisters are always like? Can't you just support your osh without trying to seek self-validation by putting others down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>79354532
>using bijou to shitpost gura
wow very ingenious never done before

[Anonymous No.]

>>79354712
I'll be honest, I just want to see Shiori/Raora just to see if Shiori can contain her italian racism or if she goes full tilt on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79354532
I can literally smell the (you) bait in this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>79354532
Here's you (You), I hope you'll accept it even if I'm not a chumbud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338674
you forgot sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
I love literally everyone in Promise. Can't say the same about any other gen. But that's fine, the diversity of talents is what makes Hololive interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79354943
>numbers numbers numbers numbers
Wow what an entertaining streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335061
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335061
>Says the other three are the Redditors
>Fuwamoco are the only Advent members who use Reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>79356549
They used and abused reddit, but they hated it. They won't even say the word doggo despite being dogs because they fucking hate redditors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
They're not even the best EN gen of 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>79357140
Man, I forgot how great Idol EN2 was. Aviel is having it real good.

[Anonymous No.]

im like super sure that biboo is the lady voice acting this video, it's so funny and even says "beep" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yslr1XhE3cI

[Anonymous No.]

Nope, sorry. Myth is best the EN gen and will never be topped. Retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>79358091
lmao mythfag seething over his irrelevant boring gen

[Anonymous No.]

The truly GRIM gen is Council, replacing the 10/10 IRyS with the 1/10 Sana who also stunted the group chemistry that is one of Promise's strengths

[Anonymous No.]

>>79359551
well thank god the REVERSE happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>79340106
Vertical streams are shorts format, shorts are aimed to non-subscribers, everyone has that number counter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79336434
retard didnt save the soundpost correctly

[Anonymous No.]

I do not give a shit about gens created by LGBT management. I like Gura and FWMC, the rest are no different than any other random indie vtuber as far as I'm concerned.

[Anonymous No.]

itt non-holo watchers shit-stirring, move along

[Anonymous No.]

>>79361290
>muh alphabet bogeymen

[Anonymous No.]

>>79356989
Anon they're still using it

[Anonymous No.]

>>79359551
IRyS is fucking boring, Sana was way better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335003
No, you're right. None of them are the comedic kind. The closest may be Shiori, but she's more of a "LUL so randomz" kinda person. The others lean into being cute or sexy.
But not everyone has to be a comedian. I don't think I've ever laughed at a single Marine or Pekora clip, but they're still the #1 and 2 Holos. You can be entertaining without being funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>79334731
meh

[Anonymous No.]

>>79335003
Retard ESL can't understand engrish

[Anonymous No.]

>>79356989
>They won't even say the word doggo despite being dogs because they fucking hate redditors.
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

I just think anons are this retarded for all this "Holo x is better than holo y". I for once at least appreciate how Cover managed to recruit EN members with fairly distinct personalities so everyone has something they can enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79338950
Fellow Holochad

[Anonymous No.]

>>79348732
Because the relevant homos are already dead and Advent reiterate what EN think about CGDCT camp. What could ERB do? I'd be surprised if EN give her green light for a future homocollab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79353188
Yeah this is pretty much how I feel too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>79343135
>>79344700
That is one of the things that I feel Bijou loses out to Gura on. While she doesn't lean into it as hard as Irys & Fauna, Gura is very unicorn and GFE friendly, a reason why she has some chumbuds who waifu her hard. Not saying Bijou "has" to do it, but I feel its one of the things Biboo can pick up on. I know the rock is not big on ASMR, but I think she could do a really cute ASMR if she gives it a try.
There's also the singing but part of the idol journey is getting better at singing. Another strength for Biboo is that she's putting more effort into learning her nihongo than the Goob is.