/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

She's 3 songs in and decided to sing a song by a homostar.
She explicitly says "by gavis bettel" when she talks about the song.
Is she doing this to prove a point or is she just a homobeggar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
>i dont care what they say to me
she knows

[Anonymous No.]

she's a homobeggar of the worst kind, tryint to change holoen from the inside

[Anonymous No.]

idk but the ccv is not decreasing tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
She’s filtering people like you out

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>>78960983
24k ccv for your first post-debut stream that's also a karaoke when you're known for singing? That's pretty shit.
Advent's first karaokes were their 3rd/4th/5th streams and did far bigger numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960983
Ït actually increased

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960952
>this misfortune's my design
She definitely does

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961096
This number is close to a normal Gura stream. Considering this is a post debut stream, it's really not good

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
its like her best work was working with a man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
omg... no...

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961126
why are viewers such beta males that enjoy being cucked? Was this hobby aim for weak manlets all along?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Neither. She just doesn't give a fuck. Based if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
pure kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961096
what the fuck are you on? nerissa's 1st karaoke peaked at 15k. what is this unicorn gigacope?
t.jailbird

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
A good 1k of those viewers are hate watching looking for homoposting to farm the catalog, please stop watching her shit if you hate her and do something useful like reading a book or something. Signed a unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
She has mori's own da haters phase. Glad mori grown out of it after 2 homos dipped in shame. Sometimes I watch her now

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
>Was this hobby aim for weak manlets all along?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Thank you Bettel Sempai!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
can't be because you know, it's a song
right?
Neither because it's her range too
must be begging!

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
>First karaoke stream
>Already sub gura level.

Where's the 100k ccv sisters??

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
cucked by what

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961522
You will never win the culture war with that mentality

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
She clearly likes what they do, so she's supporting them.
I don't care for the homos but it's really not that deep. She's made her stance clear from day 0, if you don't like it then maybe just watch someone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Occam's razor here. In the same way that another girl might be a fan of anime or games and feature those on her channel, Red is a fan of the Holostars. She just likes what she likes. There's no reason to believe it's some kind of conspiracy or long term plan for sabotage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
who fucking cares? she sounds great, song sounds great

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
Holy ESL

Try again with better English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961450
You're not a jailbird otherwise you would have said it didnt count because of the scuff. Her first proper karaoke had 45k.
t. Actual Jailbird

[Anonymous No.]

I thought she was only singing hololive songs so it can be archived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961629
Society

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
sort of? Niji turned out to be shit so, Holo is the new venue for "freedom" collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961576
don't use my dogs for your homobeggar shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
>cucked
she's not my girlfriend though? just an entertainer, not different from any other sort of entertainment ever? I don't stop watching the weather news because the caster is married? Are you mentally ill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961595
kek, more ccv than nijiEN debuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961629
In this instance it really does seem she joined just for a chance to fuck Holostars so them I would assume

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961852
Holopro songs. They still own the IPs whether it's Hololive or Holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961450
>Cherry picking

Her proper karaoke went for 40k+ ccv sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
What if she's just an honest fan of Holostars and wants to shine a light on them without trying to "own the chudcels" as they say

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961827
>Her first proper karaoke had 45k.
post the graph Ennacuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961932
anon this isn't reddit please go back there

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961981
Hey whatever keeps the family lineage ongoing

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
I think that's pretty obvious since she knew friggin Flayon's mascot, and not even other Stars fans know anything about Flayon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961937
>NijiEN

Rent free. How's the cuck chair?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
had a feeling people here were going to hate watch her, waiting for her to slip

[Anonymous No.]

>Get's over 26k even with the UK time debuff.
>sisters and unicorns: she must be shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
Anon, she has "bullies" as her dislikes. Read between the lines

[Anonymous No.]

Oh noooo a woman is having fun!! And she’s not pandering to ME?? WRETCHED WITCH!! WHORE!!

Is everything just for your masturbation? Grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
Unicorns don't believe in honesty and being charitable anon, don't try to reason with them it's no use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962164
just ignore these bait thread and it will die down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
Very well could be but it still feels like she's trying way too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960983
>Makes it clear pre debut she heavily supports and intends to lift the stars viewership
>Some einstein level anons wonder why her live viewers don't drop when she mentions the stars
In case it wasn't obvious there is no drops because everyone who dislikes the homos never watched her in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962113
anon, this board is not purely for schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962190
Give it after 2 weeks after collab ban

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961450
Twitards can only support so much. She's already peaked. Though you're likely used to Niji or homo numbers so this must seem amazing to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962429
>TWO MORE WEEKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Homobeggars will stop watching her after the honeymoon period

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
she is homobeggar and sisters, well she will enjoy it when all of her chat, comment, sc, twitter are unicorn vs nijisisters and anti 24/7 shitting the place, well i'm not there and watch cecilia instead, so whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962429
this gonna be the new shiori countdown?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962282
now imagine she don't know about 4chan at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962510
Exactly, they have the usual collab ban. After that they're free to collab with anyone. Doubt she'll "slip", we had this Kronii and nothing happened much with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962258
>UK time debuff
It's afternoon on a weekend in the west brownie

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961827
Can confirm as a fellow jailbird, Nerissa had 45k for her first unarchived karaoke. This is fucking grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
when you almost make it your personality by ignoring your holo senpai in favor of instantly replying to homos and shoehorning them this much on you debut it's definitely more of an agenda than being a fan like Bae is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962697
This one has been pretty blatant about it unlike
>respect my collab choices

[Anonymous No.]

lmao you incels will never recover from this.

[Anonymous No.]

She showed exactly how she was straight from debut, how are any of you surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962781
Depend, she's from that horse fandom thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961937
A loss for the same side, why should I be annoyed? Or are you trying to deflect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962828
Most people are out and not sat at home watching youtube faggot, and JP's are asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962935
go suck on tempiss dick faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961450
Look, stay away with your facts. We don't care about those, we have a narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

Mogging a homo in singing isn't a yab tbqh

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962837
bless you anon, doing the lord's work

[Anonymous No.]

we will see your true faces in an hour, homobeggars
surely 100k by then lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962190
>doing unnecessary retarded stuff like "owning the unichuds" and giving sisters/anti ammo to stirr shit
>surprised that the place become shit
idk she want that right? inb4 "bae like that", NO, bae is different, bae is a stars fans, she didnt come to holo and start shit like "war with unicorn" or something like that, thats why you dont see much thread about bae like this shitting every place, and yeah she will slipped and deal with it by herself

[Anonymous No.]

Here is an important lesson for unicorns:

You're not her target audience *shrug*

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Please cover forbid her from singing japanese songs ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962935
Sister you're just as much an incel as everyone else. Nobody wants to pound that rotten pussy, so stop deluding yourself into thinking you aren't as worthless as everyone else that visits this place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
>vtuber singing a song by a male means she fucked/ wants to have sex with him
omg, Gura must be secretly fucking Joji on the reg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRXidmLz35o
and Ed Sheeran's, won't you look at that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps-iznBItpw
Bruno Mars too, she surely did that, that goddamn whore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh7QFGkhd04

[Anonymous No.]

im just wishing
she do 1 spesific song for unarchive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962837
This is Liz' archived karaoke. Wait for the karaoke she does after this one for a real comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
>such beta males that enjoy being cucked
Some of you really need to understand your place in this dynamic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963111
>Most people
You really don't understand the vtuber audience do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
I could believe that if she didn't ignore Shiori and FWMC for a full day while replying to every homo on her timeline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961732
Nah she don't just like the homos, she want to push her agenda and shit on Holo Idol culture. Until proved wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963340
Keep wishing

[Anonymous No.]

She's becoming more annoying than Vesper with her "I don't care about mixed gender stuff lololol" shtick

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963111
You have to be retarded to post something like this. Why do you think large live events happen on weekends?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
The hobby is literally centralized around thousands of men sharing a single imaginary girlfriend, so yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Fuck, she sang Unlucky? Damn, I should've watched. That song's fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Bettel's in chat so she's singing it twice now lol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962113
>it's reddit to not pointlessly delude yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962041
>honest fan of Holostars
lmao, bae is an honest fan, unlike this one who just care about "look at me unicorn i collab with male and giving antis ammo to create drama"
check it yourself and you can see the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963414
Can't believe we have to do this song-and-dance again. This stupid agenda, just watch the boys and leave everyone else alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963553
Here's your chance again

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963347
Really nice of her to sabotage her gen mate 1st stream ! She hate Fuwamoco, Shiori and Cecilia...

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963431
my guy do u really know what im wishing lmao.
say it

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963173
>idk she want that right?
i'm curious about this, she definitely drew a lot of attention to herself and now she has to deal with the fact that she's going to be put under a microscope, so every little slip she might have is going to be overblown to bits.
i can see her having a kronii meltdown sometime in the future if it gets really bad

[Anonymous No.]

yoooooo bigup to our bro bettel

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963553
She is singing it again now that Bettel Sempai is in chat!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
>>78961932
>she's not my girlfriend though? just an entertainer
Elizabeth isn't pandering to unicorns and has made it clear that she is a fan of Holostars so I have no idea why unicorns are seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963645
Jesus christ her range is sex.
I actually wasn't interested until this.
Deep singing voices are my kryptonite.

[Anonymous No.]

She's either clueless or intentionally trying to chase off the unicorns. If it's the latter I mean eh fair enough. Unicorns pay the big bux but basically force you to walk on eggshells your whole career. I don't blame her for not wanting to deal with that shit.

That being said I actually suspect its the former since I strongly believe she is a normie who more or less stumbled into this ass-first.

Also desu Unlucky is a pretty good song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963173
you really let 4chan brain rot get to you. i advise you to get off this site. it's not healthy for you if you believe everything /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
dramafags and beggars will watch and support her until she graduates~

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck are (You) idiots biting such a shitty bait? Is it not normal procedure to mention the original artist of a song during karaoke streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963671
Nope, just telling you to keep wishing

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963710
>Already flirting with a homo
Our response denialcucks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
Anon you're talking about people watching a 2D anime girl stream along with thousands of other men. What did you expect? You are hardly any different.

[Anonymous No.]

never seen a vtuber self-sabotage this fast and this hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963752
>intentionally trying to chase off the unicorns
of course she is, no one is that clueless

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
She's not an idol. She's not a vtuber. She comes from a completely different world to this. Just understand that and realize she will probably cooperate and do collabs with stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963675
even if shes not having kronii lvl meltdown, all the shits that coming is really bad and if you think dealing with unicorn is pain in the ass, now imagine having unicorn and nijisisters who doesnt care about you and shitting all over the place creating drama? yeah, all of them are just waiting for any slip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963819
It's been real "peaceful" since the niji event, people are just bored anon. Let them be

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963857
It's her first stream, if any unicorn feels hurt, it's clearly and openly just trolling. This talent is not for unicorns, period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963857
I don't give a shit if they make more kino songs like Unlucky.
If continue to develop her voice I might end up being a fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963553
watch the first rendition in the vod

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963712
Yeah, I feel like unicorns have the right to exist but they should just stick to the girls that pander to them. Why get upset at the mere existence of talents that aren't targeting you specifically? Just move the fuck on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963909
You keep saying self-sabotage but it hasnt looked like it has hurt her yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964080
100% this. Unicorns, she is NOT FOR YOU!

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
Anon don't go to /trash/ your not ready for the truth...

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Holy shit, she made that Bettel song so fucking good wtf?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963596
not everyone is the same? their age gap is huge, why you think they would react the same way?

[Anonymous No.]

She wasnt a star fan, she was a niji fan, If you dont trust me lurk more. Her oshi was enna.

[Anonymous No.]

Holomems actually showing interest in men is superior to the "fake lesbian" shit a lot of others do and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961339
>cucked
i dont want to fuck any of these virtual women

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963793
All 12 of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963785
idk if you are newfag, tourist or just pretending, but if you know calli, nijisisters then you should understand, but you can keep being ironic /here/ on 4chan thinking that the problem isnt only /here/ but go ahead, as long as her other genmate doenst have to deal with that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961069
Thank God, hope they die out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964275
What do you expect? Homos are not talented

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964302
So she's a plant? Damn... the clique version of hololive will come to existence... sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961576
Kill yourself fake ruffian

[Anonymous No.]

>>78962870
>>78963406
Dude, she probably doesn't watch them and thus didn't know what to reply to them to not look like a fool. She had less issue with the guys, bc she already knew their vibe. That's it, that's literally it

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963555
I feel like more than half the songs have already just been repeats from the debut, sure, why not sing the same song twice...

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961932
Newfag or feigning mental illness

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
As a unicorn I agree. Making thread on thread about her is beyond mental illness and into straight retardation. Tbh I'm glad she's so openly for the homos so nobody gets blindsided. I honestly don't see her as a unity cancer that will corrupt the girls either, she seems just like a fujo.

[Anonymous No.]

You knew for a full fucking week this would happen. Unsub, unfollow, hit do not recommend her streams and it will be like she doesn't exist outside collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964229
Qrd on what to search

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
this! and it's true, unicorn alr have their oshi and usually they don't care. all these bait thread is just dramafag vs dramafag. also if she pander to star fan = cannibal on star fan base and not touch the girl audience. wouldn't this be great for homo anti?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964768
Only time will tell, anything can happen. We didn't think niji was THAT bad only to be proven wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
I can kinda sympathize with unicorns but the problem is they're simultaneously the most obnoxious faggots on the planet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
But but but she might infect my precious oshi with the BOY COOTIES she got from BEING PUMPED FULL OF BANZOIN HAKCUM by collabing with my oshi right after she FUCKS MEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964768
>Unicorn
Nice try nijisister we hololive fans dont want anything to do with homos no matter what

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964338
go fuck off, star fan despise you dramafag who don't support anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964094
Well so long as you're happy being a cuck I guess that's a life choice too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961234
Anon, being close to a normal Gura stream in EN is a compliment, even with a debut buff..

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
They want all hololive talents to pander to their delusions. It's as simple as that. They are as harmful and venomous as the sisters, so this very likely end bad, they are schizos who will be attacking ERB until they can harm her in any way possible. They will "excuse" their actions as "defending the other girls from her". They don't have anything to lose they are already despised by most of the fandom and all the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964200
give it 2 weeks at least and you'll see ! She already planned to sabotage Ceci 1st stream, then it's will be the whole gen and branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965001
Oi! Shut up! Hakka is cool, it's Jurard who's a problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965070
Go back to /u/ you esl SEAmonkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964338
she's a fujo and a yurijoshi tho considering the takamori shipping

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
you act like bae never exist to begin with while her genmate like mumei fauna are for unicorn, but why bae never create problem like this? everyone and their mother knew she is a huge star fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964716
She said at the start that she would be singing again the debut songs, now she will move to an un-archived karaoke with new songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965107
I mean, that condom supa that calli had was pretty funny. Doubt someone will recreate it with erb

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964959
The culture in en is cemented and sides have been taken. Irys, Gura, Fauna, and probably advent will never collab with males so she can only really convince neutrals or her gen to collab with homos but unicorns have their oshi they love so who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964155
Because she might pull a Moona and drag girls who don't care about homos into homo shit, like when she stopped a big Minecraft Collab to announce that she did a song with some homos. It's the beggars that are also always "Oh you should really Collab with (homo)!" And then get bitchy when the girl says she's not interested. It goes both ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965354
There's a world of difference between liking lesbian ships and actually being a lesbian.

[Anonymous No.]

>sing the songs twice in the same stream
huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961901
Fake Ruffian seething at that anon kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963662
>Elizabeth,Karaoke streaming for two hours.
>Cecilia will be streaming for 1 hour.
>Cecilia is overlapping Elizabeth's unarchived karaoke.
Just watch both, it's not fucking hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Everyone seems to act like she has some sort of power to overthrow the regime, as it were. But she can do nothing without Cover's approval.
If something happens, it's because they want it to happen. So if they're worried that the idol-ness of their organization is in danger, they'll do something about it. Or if they think that's nonsense, then their decisions, and the results, will reflect that too. This is Cover's train, and we're all just passengers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961096
>you're known for singing
By fucking who? It's her first stream.

[Anonymous No.]

A queen always looks out for her subjects. All of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965448
Anon, they're sentient adults. They can think and decide for themselves who they want to collab with. If they don't want to collab, they won't.

On top of that, the managers will stop it since they're actually competent. They all saw how that holozontal or whatever went and nobody wants to see that again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965448
>drag girls who don't care about homos into homo shit
If they haven't been dragged in by any of the more successful and established girls who are willing to collab with Stars, I doubt the newest kouhai is going to change things, especially when every generation brings one or two unicorn panderers to balance the inevitable homo collaber.

Sounds like you have no faith in your oshis to stand their ground.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965439
True, I dont understand why everyone is having their panties in a twist... unless... is this some yt content being collected right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965783
shut up crown

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965789
Fuwamoco clearly didn't appreciate the fact that Moona threw that shit out of left field though. You just can't stop the beggars from shilling the homos or bringing them up randomly in conversation. That's the biggest problem that you're not understanding anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965356
But Bae respect the idol culture, she is just a homos fan unlike ERB who ignored FWMC and Shiori to push her fucking beggars agenda

[Anonymous No.]

>>78964463
I mean, you are kinda right, I just didn't expect the song to actually be good. When I 1st heard it, it was OK at the very best if I was being generous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965774
based retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966000
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965789
Anon, homobeggars dont actually support the stars. Only use them as a prop to send a message

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966075
she alr reply to both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966000
Oh no! They... mentioned someone's existence? Are you serious right now? THAT'S what you're worried about? That she might mention a stars song to them in passing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966075
thats exactly my point, ERB here to make a "statement" unlike bae who just being a star fan instead of making problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966232
no one defend collab beggars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965686
Nope not watching a whore who push her agenda but thanks for the advice anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
So all her streams will have some form of HOLOSTARS reference? Jesas and people used to shit on Bae for just liking Roberu

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966367
The only one making a problem here is (you).

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966270
More like what Chadcast had when Calli mentioned Mouse to collab with Irys and Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
She should have joined Nijisanji EN instead. She can interact with Poopel Bandage and Caca Gerardo all she wants there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961852
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965819
There's a difference between asking a girl
>Do you want to do a Collab that will include homos?
And going on a stream and going
>LISTEN TO MY NEW SONG FEATURING THE HOMOS
And leaving the unicorn friendly girls to deal with the Fallout. Do they cheer and piss off the unicorns or stay silent and piss off the beggars? It causes unnecessary bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

Just because she likes Holostars doesn't mean she hates Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965001
Leave Hakka out of this, you bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966400
Yup, just watch streams and nothing else. This "drama" is so pointless

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966232
Yeah, they can eat shit, too.
Nobody should force anybody to interact or collab with people they're not comfortable with. At the same time, nobody should start throwing shit at people for collaborating with who they DO want to collab with. If you don't like it, leave. If her numbers drop from it naturally, she'll have to shape up or ship out regardless.
I don't see how it's such a difficult concept to grasp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960983
The ccv is post debut. Wait for the buff to be over

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966581
She hates idol culture anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>78965819
its not about them getting dragged, more like dramafag antis and sister stirring shit because ERB giving them a way to do that and just FYI its already happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966460
stop projecting, but thanks for proving me right

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966663
How long does the debut buff wear off? Have we figured out a number?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966621
She mentioned him 23 times during 1 hour of karaoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78966621
why? i thought you want homos to be included EVERYWHERE? you should be happy right? KEK

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>>78966367
I am 100% convinced we're going to have an "own the h8rzzzzz" incident with her and it's going to be sooner and not later. She's going to wind up like Mori/Kronii, except worse since vTubing has hit a saturation problem unlike when Myth and Council were debuting.

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>>78966405
What
Agenda?
Honestly. You fuckers keep claiming she has this elaborate plan and nothing is happening unless she gets permission to do it.

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>>78966994
Anon is hate watching a live stream and counts names

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>>78966916
For Advent is was around 3 weeks, for Council it was 2 months.
For Myth it was actually only about 2 weeks.
No idea about IRyS.

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>>78966571
unfortunately theres too many clueless retard here anon, who think that ERB is just a homo "fan" and thats it, theres no problem at all lol

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>>78961732
>>78962041
So, the problem is even if she really likes the holostars, she's completely sincere and doesn't want to be subversive, and ignoring FuwaMoco was just an extremely unfortunate coincidence, it's still very, very strange for her to make her entire image and personality revolve around holostars to this degree. It's pretty much unprecedented within all of hololive to feature them this thoroughly during a debut period. It's even unprecedented among hololive members that openly support the holostars.

It's simply bizarre.
Not even Bae, who declared her oshi to be Roberu during her debut stream, or Ollie, who explicitly said she wanted to change hololive's culture, ever promoted or interacted with holostars as much as Elizabeth has during her debut so far. And it's the same with every other member of Hololive JP, EN, and ID. Not even the ones that collab with stars the most now include them in everything they do like Elizabeth is doing.
The only place you see this much interaction with holostars, is literally the holostars themselves.
Compound this with Elizabeth's relative apathy towards hololive, her hololive senpai, and hololive as a whole, I really cannot understate how much it feels like she is not interested in anything other than getting closer to the holostars.

This initial period is really supposed to be her introducing herself and establishing her presence as a member of hololive. But instead, everything I hear about her or see ablut her is somehow connected to holostars instead. It's baffling.
It goes beyond simple interest, and excuse me bringing this up, but this interest was not present on her social media accounts before hololive. So it really does seem like there's some kind of motive here unless she developed all of this obsession in the last couple months.

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>>78966994
Damn anon, why are you keeping count?

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>>78966581
She's a Nijisis ofc she hate hololive and idol culture as well

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>>78966994
Obsessed and imagining things, pretty on brand for (You)

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>>78960818
you made it 3 songs in? her singing style is fucking disney-on-steroids level of corny. it's like sucking cheez-wiz straight from the can. it makes me physically ill.

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>>78966645
heres the funny part anon, this "pointless" drama is created by, guess who? ERB herself KEK

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>>78963172

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>>78967375
How is mentioning homos creating drama?

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>>78967154
Gotcha

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>>78960818
how does this even matter when at the end of the day no one is going to watch holostars anyway?

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>>78967276
Ultimate rrat: She's a yagoo plant to help bring up Holostars' numbers by promoting them as singers.
I'd like to see it succeed. Mostly because it'd be funny as hell if unicorns no longer had the "omg they just leech money from the girls" rrat.

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>>78967375
She responded to a tweet, and you motherfucking (ha) incels ran with a moronic fanfic that hasn't been substantiated in anyway to the level you're claiming she's going to kidnap other talents and force them to have a collab with Holostars.
Based on her making a ginger joke.

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>>78967568
Yeah... this is the shit part. The stars are used again "owning the haterz"

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>>78963347
It has less viewers than the archived one lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever this new hire is is what you should expect when it comes to EN vtubers. Anything better than this is a nice surprise. As a staunch JP gatekeeper I have never been disappointed by any EN vtuber, only impressed by fuwamoco.

[Anonymous No.]

>nijifag finna destroy hololive from the inside
truly the blackest company, even the fans are venomous

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>>78964155
The concern is that if ERB succeeds, even on a short-term basis, then Hololive will push the other talents to collab a lot with the Holostars. Hololive keeps trying to "fix" the Holostars because their growth is low, and the only solution they ever come up with is to try to have them collab with Hololive.

This all ties back to what happened to Nijisanji EN. Holo fans are (correctly) scared of the EN branch turning into what NijiEN turned into after the introduction of Luxiem.

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>>78967775
ssshh anon, dont tell them, let them learn the harsh truth later, THEY NEVER LEARN from the same mistake lol

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>>78966670
Hey really? Me too!

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>>78960818
...are you really watching a stream just out of spite?

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>>78967687
look at this clueless retardedanonchama KEK

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>>78968373
Yes. over a embed link so it doesn't count as a view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78968373
Hatewatching is a concept that will never die, so yes this kind of posts will happen again

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>>78968331
Except their last major bump didn't come from Hololive.

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>>78968331
Unlike Nijisanji and it's co-ed waves, Hololive and Holostars are completely segregated unless expressly asking for a cross promotion collab.
There's no "plan" to integrate the two branches in anyway,

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>>78968849
The plan is called ERB it seems

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>>78962041
>i dont care what they say to me

She is absolutely out to own the chuds. I am basically waiting for/dreading the inevitable meltdown that's coming. There's been at least one per HoloEN generation so far, excepting Advent. Looks like we will see one in Justice too.

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>>78968373
first time knowing retards thats show up when the chuuba "inviting" them? lol

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>>78968605
Yes. That's why this is so frustrating. They finally found a way to promote Holostars' brand and get their numbers up, the first major success they've had since Stars EN was introduced.

And what does Cover do in response? They start trying to push more collabs within Hololive instead!

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>>78967482
She's provoking the mentally ill

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>>78968331
>f ERB succeeds
oh relax she will fail lol, why? because the ppl that shes trying to pander and the whole agenda never care about it to begin with.

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>>78969759
NTA but I just find it sad that HoloStars has to look outside their own corpo for support, collabs and admiration. It's like being born into a family that doesn't want anything to do with you and treated more like a son by the neighbors down the street.

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>>78969405
Those are the lyrics to the Bettel’s original song Unlucky. Don’t think that was a personal attack on anyone.

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>>78964338
I don't know about "interest" or "friends" but you can very well be coworkers. Fuwamoco walking on eggshells is autism.

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>>78970116
Boo hoo nobody cares faggot

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>>78966670
>She hates idol culture anon
Yagoo, management, and most Hololive talents don't like traditional idol culture which panders to unicorns. Management wanted to hire someone like Elizabeth that would fully embrace HoloPro unity.

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>>78970335
What happened with FWMC? I'm too busy watching Cecilia stream and don't plan on joining that karaoke

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>>78970536
Thanks for proving my point

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>>78970116
Because they deserve neither of the 3? i mean they are a waste of oxigen, boring and ininteresting bunch after all, objectively.

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>>78970116
>has to look outside their own corpo for support, collabs and admiration
you mean just like everybody else? lmao since when girls audience MUST follow and watch stars? they are not obligated to do that.

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>>78960818
Why do you faggots keep wasting your time watching someone who is obviously not for you? Fuck off already unicorns.

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>>78970116
Agreed, but that's on Cover, not the girls. Debuting a male branch in that environment was simply a mistake.

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>>78960818
I don’t care man, I’m never going to watch her anyway

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>>78970116
Tempus got 3D just a few days ago.

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>>78971006
Why is it then I never see this same level of vitriol directed at the poorest performers in Hololive like Haachama, Matsuri, Roboco, Reine, Iofi, and Kiara if those are the metrics that are used? Objectively.

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>>78967276
>it's still very, very strange for her to make her entire image and personality revolve around holostars
Except it doesn't to anyone sane? People here are so obsessed with the idea of male collabs that they pretend it's all she talks about and ignore everything else she says.

[Anonymous No.]

Unitychads wining hard
Total Unicorn Death

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>>78971064
Just saying, alot of other corporations do not have this issue. Hololive/Cover is one of the few that has somehow cultivated a fanbase that is at each other's throats and up in arms in demanding that there must be segregation and two tiers within the company splitting it in half.

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>>78970116
Even the nijiniggers who bullied selen towards a suicide attempt were treated like human beings they are not by cover compare to holostars who these whores keep disrespecting for incel bucks.

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>>78971475
Maybe because it's the case ? She shill the homos everywhere

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>>78971541
>1 girl out of every other holoEN will be a regular homocollaber
>this is supposed to be a win
ogey

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>>78960818
CuckGODS we cant stop winning.

[Anonymous No.]

A simple litmus test of whether she's clueless or deliberate in her actions is to ask her about her past love life. She'd have to be real clueless to answer that one as a streamer regardless of her intentions.

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>>78966075
Just like fuwamoco who ignored the boys for their shameless unicorn pandering. Shut the fuck up incel. When will you faggots realize you're funding some other man's condoms and fuck off already.

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>>78971650
who said that? niji has this or you pretend vox reimu shit didnt happened? LMAO vspo? they dont have mix gen or "male" branch, phase? same thing because ALL OF THEM ARE BASED ON FULL FEMALE CGDCT, the audience want "coffee" not "tea" and you are complaining that ppl who drink coffee MUST drink tea too? talking about entitled

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>>78962041
>>78960818
This girl goes out of her way to show even before her debut that she's not interested in having unicorn fans and you dipshits are STILL seething about it. You have unicorn-friendly HoloENs you could be watching right now but instead you waste your time crying on a fucking Mongolian basket weaving forum about the ones who aren't interested in having you for fans

Unicorn fans are just like transsexuals-- nothing you do will ever make them happy, so why even bother?

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>>78960983
20 sisters and unicorn monkeys from 4chan don't have much power

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>>78971670
yas sister, #cut4hex

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>>78968331
imagine if she hosts the homo instead of her genmate after her karaoke kek

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>>78973958
i mean if she didnt learn from calli and kroni thats on her LMAO

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>>78970116
There's nothing wrong with a male branch, but the audiences for the two are extremely different. Cover has been twisting itself into pretzels for years to get Hololive fans to watch Holostars and it's just never going to work. Even before NijiEN and the Sisters poisoned the well, it was clear it wasn't going to work.

They need a different marketing approach. Holostars needs to either be "bros" or aim at girls, and they need to figure out how to actually attract those eyeballs without constantly trying to force Hololive's audience to watch them.

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>>78973549
You're not welcome within Hololive you cockholder faggot ! I advice you to stay on your homos side and don't bother with the girls filthy homobeggar

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>>78960818
Based slag

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>>78968331
People really memory-holed nijien’s downfall. No, it was not because of them being coed or nijijp would have fallen as well. No, it was because they were basically an unregulated streamer house plagued by constant drama and scandals that maybe 10% or less were reliant on men and women interacting and 90% on them and their managers being shit people.

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>>78961532
Mori didn't grow out of it, the two homos betrayed her and that's why she isn't trying to turn HoloEN into Niji lite anymore and Gura won.

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>>78960818
>gavis bettel
did she really? i went to hear that song,
it's dogshit.

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>>78968605
>>78969759
Are you suggesting that Yagoo should bribe Dokibird to spam homocollab events that keep the stars busy? That could actually work. (Especially since Dokibird isn't exactly the best with money.

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>>78960980
how the fuck did hololive bring in a woke POS
but unlucky she does can sing quite well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
She was hired to mindbreak the board and it's working

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>>78975421
I'm sorry but this is not good singing, especially when you already have IRyS, Gura, and Nerissa in the branch lmao

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>>78975682
he's decent, not heavenly
Gura and Mumei are Angels
rest meh

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>>78975259
It would definitely be a strategy but would the purist Hololive fans tolerate Holostars growing and becoming successful? From a handful of responses in this very thread, some want to strangle them in the crib at worst or just plain fear them becoming too big to ignore by the girls.

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>>78974769
The constant drama and scandals were what finished them off, but the girls' views were plunging after Luxiem was introduced. This is because the girls quickly just became accessories for the male streamers, and because the Sisters quickly chased out the "old" male fanbase. The Selen situation just greatly accelerated a process that was already happening.

For obvious reasons, HoloEN fans are correctly afraid this will happen in their branch too. No one in Hololive's current fanbase is going to want to watch constant flirting and ship teasing and such. EN streamers as a whole don't seem able, for the most part, to just do the collab and act normally. It always turns into the stuff NijiEN was doing.

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>>78960818
She's doing it to make (You) seethe and you're falling for it. Stop being so easily manipulated you triggered faggot.

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>>78975790
IRyS is by far the best singer in EN. Gura is a lot worse technically but has charm, and Mumei is kind of just a slightly worse Gura (not that that's a bad thing)
this Brit is mediocre at everything except belting and these runs she keeps trying to do are genuinely awful

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>>78960818
It'll just be a matter of time when she drops this. There are cliques in HoloEN too, and you will be left out if you don't join the one Gooba is in. Even Mori and Kronii fell in line. Shiori figured this out on the first week.

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>>78976124
>IRyS is by far the best singer in EN
she's is pitch perfect and that's it
a singer has to have soul and character
that's what she lacks
Gura and Mumei can sing well and have their touch of their soul/character in it

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>>78976188
>Even Mori and Kronii fell in line
Kronii is top dog in her relationship with Gura.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naYIcElcJnQ

[Anonymous No.]

bitch needs to rein herself in

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>>78976124
IRyS is the best technical singer but I find her voice generic and kind of boring. Mumei is S tier because she is very good but still has SOVL. When she actually feels confident once a month she's easily the best especially her theater covers. Nerissa has the best official cover videos through, Vampire is kino.

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>>78976322
>soul
the only thing you non-musically trained morons can point to. IRyS is a much better singer than Gura objectively. You can LIKE Gura's singing more but she is worse than IRyS

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>>78962837
This... says 27,732 peak right? Am I blind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78976560
Kronii dropped the unsustainable menhera phase caused by homos for a long time by that point

[Anonymous No.]

People here can't be the unicorns right? Seething over this stuff when the girl has been obvious since pre-debut is mentally ill behavior of the gross nijisister kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960983
> imagine not even breaking 200 Finanas
GRIM

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>>78975888
Without the management and PR issues, it is easy to envision how Nijisanji could have sustained itself indefinitely on a majority female audience with a sizeable secondary male demographic. I think you already recognize this, and it is certainly a pretty terrible outcome. But capitalism doesn't reward ethics or catering to a specific demographic over others. It rewards growth. Fortunately (at least in my opinion), NijiEn's downfall has derailed that possible trajectory at least for now, but the market potential for using cute anime boys to take Fujo and Yume money has been demonstrated.

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>>78976728
This IRyS just sings perfect and it's boring and generic, there's dime a dozen people who can do that,
just hearing mumei and Gura's karaoke, it's just special

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>>78975888
HoloEN turning into NijiEN with cuckold jokes is the argument used by unicorns but there is no evidence that Elizabeth would do that. Until that happens unicorns are fear mongering that HoloPro unity means a complete end to CGDCT content.

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>>78973837
>npc tier response
Concession accepted troonicorn

[Anonymous No.]

It's not cucking if they sing a song together

[Anonymous No.]

What pills is she talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
I hope she gets shipped with one of the stars. It's what she deserves

[Anonymous No.]

>>78979271
isn't that what she'd want

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone have the setlist

[Anonymous No.]

>>78976728
>IRyS is the best technical singer but I find her voice generic and kind of boring.
same
>Mumei is S tier because she is very good but still has SOVL.
slight disagree - her style is a liiiiittle too 'theater kid.' gura is roughly the same level of talent but 10x the style: she sounds sincere and not so schmaltzy.

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>>78979341
Ask that in her thread, this is a bait thread

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>>78971475
It is abnormal strictly from the fact that not a single other talent in any branch of hololive has done this as much as she has. Not anywhere close.
So yes, anon. It is objectively strange because we can look at 72 other hololive girls' debuts from the past and see that not a single other one was like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Based ERB. Seethe Unicorntard

[Anonymous No.]

>>78979777 (Me)
Actually, make that 78 other girls.
I forgot CN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
God i hate this whore. She's like a fucked up mix of Kronii, Mori and Nerissa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
SEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

Has more CCV then green wind up toy. Dont that just sting?

[Anonymous No.]

well op aged like milk

[Anonymous No.]

>>78979777
>we can look at 72 other hololive girls' debuts from the past and see that not a single other one was like this.
Cover has definitely been encouraging more HoloPro unity with Regloss and Justice. Hololive contracts and rules have likely changed so it's more than simply hiring a talent that was a Holostars fan.

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>>78960983
80% of her viewers were the holostar fanbase, they're watching her instead of the holostars today (because they'd normally be watching nothing).

[Anonymous No.]

>>78961732
It is a conspiracy though

[Anonymous No.]

>>78983815
But I thought sisters never watch streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>78980669
Being a good singer, karaoke is her buff content. Unarchived, on top of that. She would have needed twice as many viewers to be even slightly impressive when compared to fucking Skyrim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78983815
And just wait for the clips #s. That's going to be her bread and butter. The homo fanbase will be boosting those clips to the moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>78963712
I've been saying this on the board for years, Unicorns only cuck themselves in the end, kinda like how Chris Chan trolls himself in the end most of the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>78960818
Genuine question, have Bae or Ollie ever sung any of the homos' songs?

[Anonymous No.]

I was asleep (sea timezone), how was Liz karaoke anons?