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What advice do you have for them?

>> No.78483420

Instantly nuke all beggars in your chat and abandon your liggerous ways.

>> No.78483616

>>78483297
no homo collabs
no past life friends collabs within23- mo
fucking stream, no breaks
please, mods are important but no ala Kronii style

>> No.78483622

ban all nijifag falseflag homobeggars in your chat.

>> No.78483747
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78483747

Follow Advent's example, not Myth or Promise.

>> No.78483867

Play ARK

>> No.78483875

unfollow all homos ASAP, avoid them like the plague, ban all homobeggars on site, literally just stream and you'll do great

>> No.78483880

>>78483420
>liggerous ways
Elaborate

>> No.78483910

Have sex with me.

>> No.78483931

Unironically just leech off of Promise like Advent tried to. That way you could get into Gooba's clique instead of being put on her shit list like Mori is.

>> No.78484078

>>78483747
This except shiori's
>respect my collab decisions
Or any mixed messages at all

>> No.78484442

Whatever advice /vt/ gives, do the opposite

>> No.78484543

>>78484078
>respect my collab choices
Why do you fags keep repeating this bs

>> No.78484587

>>78484078
It wasn't a mixed message, people were just retarded.

>> No.78484720

Don't listen to anything /VT/ tells you and make sure to regular purge Unicorns.

>> No.78484742

delete your shit before your reveal if you’re going to try to pander to a specific audience

>> No.78484751

>>78483297
Fuck the unicorns, have kino collabs with the Stars boys

>> No.78484803

>>78483297
Block & Ignore ollie

>> No.78484801

>>78483297
Remember.
Homos are the poison

>> No.78484834
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>>78483297
Shiori acknowledged red homo once to be polite, now she gets cuck art drawn of them together and an entire community of beggars fantasize about them fucking each other.
here is the artist proudly admitting to it and getting updooted in the official stars leddit.
homobeggars are antis and they don't care about you, follow advents example and don't give them an inch.

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>>78483616
>>78483622
uniocorns fuck off.Homo collabs are based. Please get secret bf. Don´t become spinsters

>> No.78484989

>>78484834
nothing wrong with that

>> No.78485246

>>78483297
Always do the opposite of what Mori does.

>> No.78485278

>>78483297
don't be /here/.

>> No.78485323

>>78484543
Why do you keep liking a whore?

>> No.78485395

Establish boundaries between parasocial fans early on
Expand your audience by collabing outside hololive
Take frequent breaks for your mental health (don't feel like you always have to announce them)

>> No.78485452

Don't collab with males.
Steam at least 4 days a week.
Don't do GFE.

>> No.78485500

>>78483297
Own the chuds. Don’t give fanservice and berate those that call out your models sex appeal. Collab with males.

>> No.78485504

>>78483297
be like Advent

>> No.78485766

>>78485323
2 more weeks.
Also I'm sure they'll be fine. They got into hololive and they have real managers, so I'm sure whatever they do will be far better than any plan /vt/ could cook up for them.

Just don't go early Kronii and try pandering to chat too hard. God, that "please tell me what to do" membership stream was fucking hard to watch.

>> No.78485817

>>78483297
>No homos
>No one cares about your old friends
>No need to behave like a slut at all times, just watch them lust korone
>No one likes leeches
>Drooling over your senpais is cringe, so stop it
Yes I'm talking to you Raora bitch
I know you're reading

>> No.78485838

>>78484906
they all have secret bf, anon. That's not reason to keep tainting their streams. not everyone has a cuck fetish like (you)

>> No.78485888

>>78485323
TWO MORE WEEKS

>> No.78485933

>>78483297
Speak English, don't come /here/, and ignore pagpags and number monkeys as much as humanly possible.

>> No.78485997

>>78483297
Just copy Advent and ReGloss.

>> No.78486052

>>78483297
Stream in EU hours

>> No.78486114

>>78485997
Why wouldn't they copy more successful gens like Myth and Promise?

>> No.78486210

If you have an aussie accent, hide it.

>> No.78486245

Be like Advent.
No Homocollabs
Fucking stream
Stay inside the Hololive box, don't collab with Vshoujo, Niji, or your indie friends.

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>>78485817
>t. picrel
kys

>> No.78486427

>>78483616
this. basically follow advent's playbook.

>> No.78486442

>>78486114
There's a reason why myth is considered lightning in a bottle gen. As for promise...

>> No.78486461

>>78486114
>Myth
They're only sucessful because they were first.
>Promise
Horrible unity and too many yabs.

>> No.78486489

Collabing with the homos is a surefire way to lose all good will for not only yourself, but the entirety of your gen. Everyone will start second guessing your gen's intentions if you open the door to homos after a year of zero homo-holoEN interaction. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Don't ruin it for the rest of the girls.

>> No.78486532

>>78484543
BS? She said it herself. It's not a rrat. Of course she did not specify what that meant and people just filled in the blanks, but she did say that right in debut.

>> No.78486607

>>78486532
Okay, rewatch her debut stream and tell me where she said, "respect my collab choices."

>> No.78486647

>>78484834
>>78484989
Homobeggars won't buy your overpriced merch, or even watch your solo streams.
They are brand risks.
Pandering too hard to hardcore viewers will filter the casual viewers
Improve your charisma, and understand risk management

>> No.78486783

>>78486607
it's at the end. last sentence.

>> No.78486809

>>78486378
yeah
stop being gay or female please, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's good

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>>78486532

>> No.78487071

>>78483297
Stream 8 hours a day

>> No.78487267

>>78486783
>>78486988

>> No.78487356

>>78483297
No males,
No leeching,
No politics (speciallynot woke ones),
Do not antagonize your fanbase, and if you must do it don't flip flop.

>> No.78487357

troons mad

>> No.78487364
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>>78486489
>A chain is only as strong as its weakest link
Very much this, this is what homocollab girls fail to account for is that it tarnishes the reputations of their genmates by proxy. it's selfish as fuck to nuke the gen's reputation and they probably would not appreciate it.

EN is a developed scene now, we aren't prisoners to this new gen that did not even have serious demand to exist. let me be frank in case any of them or holoEN staff are here - this gen is excessm you ARE expendable, we already fucking have oshis, we already fucking have a somewhat ideal gen that is still pretty recent. if you suck or go on some ego trip we are in no hurry to force ourselves to keep watching you. you need to prove your worthm you need to be AT LEAST as good as advent to be competitive and not dismissed as wastes of slots. take that as you will.

>> No.78487402

>>78483297
Please take actual read a super chat in your head first so you don't get fucking baited into reading something retarded out loud. Also have your mods enforce chat rules to keep rowdy trouble makers in line

>> No.78487653

>>78486988
Don't do this.
any ambiguity will be taken the WORST possible way.
Either say "I love girls and only girls!" or "I like boys so much I can't wait to collab with all the holostars!" anything in between is bad BAD.

>> No.78487735

>>78484906
Fck I care about their IRL shit. I just don't want a homo on my screen.

>> No.78487920

>>78483297
congratulations you made it!
do not waste the precious holo slot like sana kronii laplus ollie
stay inside the holobox and expand it, good luck

>> No.78487922

>>78487364
This anon nailed it.
If you don't bring anything to the table at least don't ruin it for the others.
We have our Holo oshis, small indies are very strong and small corpos are growing in popularity and quality.
If you can't seriously be better than them you'll be the the gen that "killed" hololive in the eyes of many.

>> No.78487961

>>78487653
Or you know, don't bring it up at all specially at debut.

>> No.78487974

>>78483931
is the goomba that powerful?

>> No.78487986

>>78483297
Stream
Fucking Stream
Stream More
Stream until your computer crashes

Avoid Yabs
Don't get political
Don't GFE
Don't try to spite the Unicorns but don't humor them either
Play up your characters
Roleplay yourself

>> No.78488038

>>78487974
She's called the Magical Wealth Producing Shark of Prosperity for a reason.

>> No.78488068

>respect my collab decisions
Only cares about her gen and haachama
LMAO

>> No.78488101

Don't buy iphone

>> No.78488104

>>78486489
regloss.....

>> No.78488115

>>78483297
Season your food

>> No.78488128

>>78487364
>>78487922
This is true, I have Advent, if I don't like what I'm seeing I will simply stick with Advent and the earlier gens.

If this gen turns out to be a bunch of Karens, or Niji wannabes, or Male orbiters then enjoy being the runts of HoloEN

>> No.78488281

>>78483297
Have sex with this anon
>>78483910
(that anon is me btw)

>> No.78488295
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>>78488104
>The absolute state of ReGross

>> No.78488351

>>78488101
forsenBased

>> No.78488356

>>78484720
This

>> No.78488376

>>78483297
Don't collab with homos, it's not worth it unless you're a mega hit like Calli and you're too big to fail.

I know your audience is full of retards who say weird shit. Don't publicly start shit with them. Yes I know you're angry, but look at Kronii and ask yourself when this worked for her

If you don't want to be GFE, establish this at the very beginning. No one is pissed when a vtuber debuts saying they aren't GFE. They're pissed when they do GFE then backtrack on it. Commit to it or leave it, again look at Kronii for more info.

In general, look at Kronii's fuckups and learn from them so you don't do the same. She fucked up so you don't have too.

>> No.78488526

>>78483297
You have like 18 other girls in EN, 9 in ID, and a lot more in JP, stick to them. Go homo collab in your RM or whatever you want, but not in your holo account, that's all. And don't "try to change the culture in holo" no one wants that shit

>> No.78488581

>>78488104
>Literally marketed on the regular as a different branch style.
>Despite being included in many things, continues to be distinctly left in their own category.
Like hate the homos all you want, the company views regloss as a separate entity and more than likely encouraged to interact with them more than other branchs. We don't know their specific behind the scenes differences.

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>>78483297
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Who's gonna feed you? You decide.

Some fans always whine about VTuber with her boyfriend (presumably) so much they forget to realize that there's a chance of the other way around: said BF may be jealous of his girl because she's too busy with VTubing things that she spends less time with him. This problem can threaten their romantic relationship.

On another thing:
WHY EN4 INSTEAD OF ID4???

>> No.78488647

>>78483297
Please play rain world I'm so desperate for someone to play rain world

>> No.78488819

>>78488647
Shiori played rain world, dude

>> No.78488844

>>78483297
hello mane chan, basically this >>78487920

>> No.78488891

>>78488819
doesn't count

>> No.78489014

>>78487920
Ollie is great fag

>> No.78489022

>>78483297
Myth and promise made many blunders that were forgiven becuase they were "the first" but (you) have three gens to learn from and people will be much more critical of your mistakes, specially if they already happened like >>78488376 says.

>> No.78489062

>>78485500
Hahahahahahah faggots cannot stop seething.

>> No.78489085

Don't read here/ego search/etc.
Also, screw numbers. Don't obsess over them.

>> No.78489140

>>78483297
Please don't do fucking weekly gen collabs

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>>78488639
>WHY EN4 INSTEAD OF ID4???
ID fans don't pay up

>> No.78489242

>>78483297
Collab with Homos
Collab with people you knew and collabed with before Holo right away
Only stream once a week or even once every two weeks

>> No.78489349

>>78489085
it's not like here is a shining beacon of wisdom at all, but girls who are completely fucking ignorant to the unwritten expectations people have very-specifically of Hololive tend to not do well when they step over those lines and don't know what to say to people being annoyed about it.

being a Holo is absolutely not something you just wing it through without very closely observing why exactly it has grown into being such a behemoth and why it has remained dominant while nijiEN crumbled. don't do anything nijiEN did, it's not even the coed collabs but the constant shitting on and punching down at the audience that turns people off, and coed collabs tend to be priming the cannon with gunpowder just waiting for the girl to make one off comment and set it off blowing up in her face. it's also not the only way it can happen at all - it's just the most common natural route.

>> No.78489488

>>78483297
Collab with a male once just to weed out unicornfags but don't make it a regular thing or else you'll get a ton of retards following you. Also please don't vent about your personal life it'll only end bad.

>> No.78489695

>>78489488
A single reply on twitter is enough to make those retards stick around forever. Just look at the shiori/flayon shit.

>> No.78489758

>>78483297
Stay away from the Chinese, Nijisanji, and Phase Connect. Not going to say “stay away from the homos” because that’s either an official rule or an unwritten one at this point.

>> No.78489771

>>78483297
Stream several times a week and during Eu hours. No collabs with male vtubers.

>> No.78489799

>>78483297
What Kronii did, don't do that
What Ollie did, don't do that
What Mori did, don't do that
What Kobo did, don't do that
What Russia did, don't do that
Copy Korone, Copy FWMC, Copy Pekora, stream regularly as a gen like Advent, don't be lazy shits like Myth and Promise. Bing bang bong best holo EN gen.

>> No.78489810

>>78489349
also forgot my main point which is I don't exactly mind if a girl is here as long as she can handle it and knows what 4chan is and how people actually-think about vtubers, vtubing etc, because I'd way rather someone know the truth and understand it and respond to it tactfully instead of accidentally piss the fuck off out of some people and get confused and distraught at the response and only make it worse doubling down. I mean to me, someone that fucking naive should be fucking nowhere near Hololive to begin with, but that's on cover's staff to be keen to or not.

>> No.78489811

>>78483616
This is exactly what I want

>> No.78489879

Ignore bait

>> No.78489880

>>78488819
What.

>> No.78489947

Play Heroes 3

>> No.78489967

>>78488819
Actually, I feel like I kinda remember that now.
Did she pay any attention to the game at all or just go off on a hundred tangents while wandering the early maps?

>> No.78490032

Do a fucking coding stream. One of you has to be a tech nerd

>> No.78490056

>>78489695
There's a difference between the relationship between Shiori and Flayon and Mori and her "boys" or Kobo and Altare

>> No.78490077

Do what you want, stop caring about the lowlifes' opinions from this place. Take care of your mental health.

>> No.78490098

>>78483297
spooky youtube video night

>> No.78490168

>>78483297
collab with males so the /vt/ niggers go away
then never collab with anyone, male or female again so it can just be you and your audience

>> No.78490176

>>78490077
ignoring the fans' hopes and dreams and wishes is a recipe to failure. which would be far worse for mental health being the black sheep being hated on all the time and getting shitpost superchats etc. you sure showed us alright, how dare we express what we would like to see from entertainment we voluntarily consume for fun, how could we be so naive, of course the mighty vtuber goddesses know everything.

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>>78489799
>What Russia did, don't do that
What did anon mean by this?

>> No.78490305

>>78490176
this is written like a threat

>> No.78490312

>>78490208
Don't invade Ukraine and start an unnecessary war

>> No.78490309

>>78490176
How'd you think Yuko graduated you insane piece of shit. Girls need a break sometime

>> No.78490438

>>78483297
Threaten your first time viewers to let you do whatever you want or fuck off, openly simp your holostars oshi, openly flirt with holostars en as open sexual tweet interaction is always hot and people want to see it, recruit your old friend to be your mods and talk with them more in your streams, give your mods all the power to shit on your chat publicly, collab with your old leech friends weekly to boost them up to give back to the community, and lastly throw shots at gura being lazy ass bitch. Guaranteed popularity.

>> No.78490503

>>78490312
Anon bread is important

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>>78490176
based consoomer

>> No.78490556

>>78487364
>>78487922
But if you already have oshis, and the girls can't be indie, then shouldn't they try to branch out and try garnering new audiences?

>>78483297
Make clear what you're about and don't betray your fan's expectations. If there's a big mismatch between what you're marketed as and what the fans receive, you'll have a backlash like Jennifer's Body/Cyberpunk/No Man's Sky.
Try not to have Kronii's woman moments.

>> No.78490569

>>78490309
yuko graduated because she flipped harder on her material than an ihop at breakfast hours. successfully alienated literally fucking everyone and was making very very literally like $15 a stream. that's what "do what u want fuck DA HATERZ" gets you if your goal is to try to convince the audience that they don't know what they really want. oh yes, yes they fucking know what they really want. it's a matter of most people being too wimpy to admit it out loud. shunning the truth doesn't make it go away.

>> No.78490586

>>78490309
Huh? Didn't yuko graduated because she listened to her anti-unicorn cabal? And when support stopped coming as expected, she did a final flesh stream and left.

>> No.78490766

>>78490309
she fell for the parasocial bad meme and imploded her own career, where is your billion dollar support when she abandoned the unicorn paypigs you hate so much?

>> No.78491119

>>78490208
Never get involved in a land war in Asia

>> No.78491131

>>78489198
>Ruze that high
Wow it's been paying off for him to not collab with dykes. Good for him.

>> No.78491276

>>78490309
This has to be bait. She told her core fan base to fuck off and was surprised when she stopped making money. All to appease her discord groomers who wouldn't support her financially

>> No.78491313

>>78483297
Make Cecelia strip every stream... that's all I got.

>> No.78491407

Good God unicorns beg so hard

>> No.78491713

>>78483297
ok lets list some
you girls have literally no excuse to fuck up, just avoid doing all the bad shit that mori, kronii and ollie did in their first year
stream a lot during your first month
after that you can finally make your own schedule
try not to have women moments
IF this is very important you are willing to collab with the homos you better make this explicit during your first stream, otherwise you will have to deal with a lot of shitpost afterwards
copy want advent did during their first month
avoid talking about obvious bad topics like politics and the like
if you want to collab with your old friends or with people outside of the holobox you better wait for that, I would say maybe 6 months but ideally wait after your first year to do that, you have plenty of talents in the holobox to work with so they should be your priority

that should be enough for now, I can easily list more but if you girls are reading the threads then you should about what im talking about

>> No.78491812

>>78483297
Don't get caught with us open on another tab even though everyone and i mean all vtubers are all /here/ and frequent this board. Actually matter of fact be mindful of any slip ups, dms, tabs, internet history you have open on stream practice proper streaming etiquette especially now that you are a holo hope that helps!

>> No.78491879

>>78483616
>mods are important but no ala Kronii style
Are Kronii's mods known for their strictness?

>> No.78491947

>>78488101
solid advice mr.fors

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Remember, I don't care if you have a secret boyfriend, a husband, exes, or 200 kids like a whore. I just don't need to hear anything about it.

If you talk about homos or collabs with them, I will stop supporting you financially. You will be placed with the ID members. You will have a chance to redeem yourself like Kronii and Calli but you will never have my full support again just like Gura always had.

Unless you're ame. Ame is cool and gets a pass with the homos. That bitch literally needs a dick in her life and deserves all the happiness in the world. (And you're not Ame, so stop collabing with the homos)

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>>78492292
holy fucking based

>> No.78492388

>>78492292
based
>Unless you're ame. Ame is cool and gets a pass with the homos
fag

>> No.78492396

>>78491879
they were known for pre-banning dudes and trying to thought police them in kronii's stead if what's what you mean. she put an end to that but still the damage was done.

while we're talking another bit of advice that probably is pretty sanguine would be "ditch all mods and similarly privileged fans from old vtuber personas" since they have a tendency to try to ride a new Holo girl's fame into a massive power trip for themselves by being given way way more responsibility than they ever should have had before. power can turn good people bad, and legacy fans given a mechanism to gatekeep or try to thought police the newer lesser fans will absolutely fucking take that option if they have it.

>> No.78492420

>>78489349
>>78489810
Yeah, generally fine advice right there. I watch Vtubers as just another source of entertainment, but if I had to say if I was closer to the unicorns or to the ones clamoring for male collabs, I’d have to go with the former. I hate it when both types schiz out, but the former is closer to being completely and uniformly dedicated to the streamer they’re watching while the latter often have those with inferiority complexes about male Vtubers mixed in, in addition to the people who simply hate unicorns and just want to “score points” on their imaginary scoreboard against them. Even worse if a male collab comes off as moral grandstanding, with the streamer trying to prove a point. Fucking hell, you don’t have to play a waifu character or do GFE, but it comes off as insincere to do a male collab just to deter unicorns and that drives away people who aren’t unicorns as well. No one wants to be an audience to streamer drama unless they’re mentally ill.

Related to this, I hate it any time a streamer, not even just Vtubers, go on a rant against a part of their audience, “punching down” as you say. I’d say that the only ones who enjoy that are the people who want the streamer to act as a mouthpiece against the people they disagree with or the simps who agree 100% with the streamer on everything and mindlessly cheer their agreements. If a streamer takes refuge behind the support of these kinds of people, it comes off as them having a bruised ego that needs the salve of an echo chamber.

I feel like the trend of needing to clarify every little thing about a person’s position is incredibly stupid. It comes off as condescending to the audience, like you’re expecting the worst of them and that you need to explain to them the simplest shit. Of course there’ll be autists who the rules need to be explained to, but they’re not gonna change and the people who already implicitly understand what boundaries there are could get offended at being placed on the same level as them.

It’s better if a streamer tries to treat the people messing around as a distinctly separate group from the audience, since that tends to be enough to convince people that they’re not being accused of anything, but some streamers just can’t help but make it seem like they only say that as a tacked on aside, like they don’t want to go through the effort of assuring their audience that it’s not “them” they’re complaining about. It gives the impression of them just whining and belatedly realizing they don’t want to offend the people giving them money. If a streamer can’t naturally make the audience feel like they’re on the same side against a “small, disruptive group”, it sets a rather distinct space between the streamer and their audience that isn’t simply them not wanting to be parasocial, but them not viewing their audience as anything but a resource to be farmed. There’s a line between that and treating streaming as a job that a person shouldn’t want to blur.

>> No.78492527

Remember that nobody has the right to tell you who can be your friend and who cannot.

Not your "fans", not Cover, not even your husband. That's toxic af.

>> No.78492590

>>78491713
Those "shitposts" are unjustified though, They are under not obligation of stating they will collab with Homos and have the right to change of mind at any moment.

>> No.78492626

>>78492527
True, they can do whatever they want but there will be consequences

>> No.78492636

>>78485500
When the devil on your shoulder isn't even trying to be subtle anymore

>> No.78492717

>>78483297
Dont look at this site, ever.

>> No.78492763

>>78483297
Think of it as a full-time job.
Viewers are your costumer.
Your character is not you.

>No fun allowed
You can think your Hololive career as a fun hobby that generates income when it was going smoothly, but in the time when things get rough don't attach yourself too closely with your online persona, don't get too personal, be professional.
They're there to be entertained, the moment you are no longer entertaining they'll leave you without even thinking twice and those who did will resent you for 'denying' their fun.

>> No.78492802

If you want to have fun, don't ever look at this site.

If you want money, see >>78492292

>> No.78492846

Liggerman here, do you lads exclusively use the term homo for male holo members or is it used for males in general?

>> No.78492919

>>78492420
I think (actually, I don't think, I know) that streamers often get god complexes when they get very popular, and Hololive is basically a rags to riches boost up to immortality status for many of the girls who get accepted. They may think they now have a platform from which to try to dictate to the world how they think vtubing should be done - but that's explicitly not why they were put into Hololive and it's not going to end well literally no matter what they say. If they have even a minute of lecturing people, even ten seconds, it's too much. If one toes the line precisely to how Holo wants things, everyone from outside Holo fandom will decry it as combative and aimed at them if it's contrary to their own views - even if you weren't talking at them at all. Say anything clearly contrary to the usual Holo meta/zeitgeist and you will cause turmoil within your own ranks and probably many fans of the company in general. So never do it. Don't tell the world how you think it all should work because you are just asking to be cross-examined on your statement under an electron microscope like Fauna's "we are not friends" ramble. By picking a side you implicitly put down everyone else even if you didn't mean to at all. So never do it.

>> No.78492958

>>78492292
Teacuck……

>> No.78492988
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>>78492846
males in general
>nijisanji males?
HOMOS
>your indies in lig?
HOMOS
In fact, anything that isn't Hololive EN/JP is a Homo to me. (except for UI)

>> No.78493042

>>78492988
Holo ID?

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>>78493042
you guessed it.

HOMOS

(except maybe for the blacksmith, i'm not really interested with the ID to begin with but I heard the blacksmith is just CDGCT through and through, which is good)

>> No.78493304

>>78492846
IIRC it used to just refer to holostars, but now it's pretty much any male vtuber. But if a holo girl is reaching out to non-holostars men then I suppose that's an entirely different can of worms.

>> No.78493494

>>78492626
Don't try to threaten them.

>> No.78493536

>>78486532
many took that bait so it's effective

>> No.78493660

>>78492846
It comes from homostars which comes from holostars.

In the unicorns' minds these are the only potential male collab partners.

The thought of the girls collabing with a non-Holo male vtuber is completly inconceivable for Holobronnies.

>> No.78493687

>>78490515
No, that's not a consoomer. The guy he was responding to is - "do whatever you want, we'll take anything you're giving us" is the consoomer mindset. Literally, the word consoomer was invented to describe this exact behavior - defending brands or corporations from criticism and indirectly hailing brand loyalty as a virtue, crticizing those who don't adhere to it as hazardous non-believers.

>> No.78493694

>>78483297
God I hope Gigi isn't French

>> No.78494145

All I ask is you to be professional.
Literally ask yourself everyday is this what a pro would do?

>> No.78494195

>>78483880
Interacting with indies especially the ones they knew on their PL

>> No.78494241

>>78483297
Stick to kayfabe and make your own character stand out

>> No.78494276

>>78493660
I really don’t know why you’d even want that, aside from you being said male chuuba.

>> No.78494299

>>78492527
sure you just lose a lot of money that way.

>> No.78494308

>>78492292
Zase-
>Unless you're ame
Cringe.

>> No.78494338

>>78494241
True, and if your bad at kayfabe don't ragequit and abandon it, just get gud. Kayfabe is a natural filter for tourists.

>> No.78494468

>>78486532
she did that to filter you

>> No.78495288

>>78483297
Use your fucking model, realize what's appealing about it. I'm here to watch a character that happens to be puppeteered by a real person, not a person who happens to be represented by a character.

Build that character identity. You are a vtuber, not a normal streamer. They keyfabe might differ and evolve from the first impression over time, but some are still stronger and better than others.

>> No.78495499

>>78494338
Yeah, it might take some serious endurance for a long time, but you get used to it with long enough dedication.

>> No.78495593
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>>78483297
Don't underestimate the power of alternate characters: in Hololive.

- Dont like your design?
- Want to use a different voice?
- Have a different persona you want to try?
- Want to make risque/experimental merch without using your 'default character'?
- want more to play multiple characters?
- Want more lore?
- Want to soft-rebrand?

Make alternate characters. Make them cool fun sexy comfy whatever? If they catch on you can keep using them if not, you can drop them

>> No.78495708

Same advice I gave Advent, you're welcome
>>54489571

>> No.78495896

follow the daisenpai's lead. burp and fart a lot, make wigger music, make bbc jokes, homocollab then retweet a cuck comic making fun of your fans, then finally, spam /vt/ with "she's so feminized now" posts. if you miss one of these steps it's career suicide, but do all of them together and it's like exodia, you're suddenly daisenpai-tier

>> No.78496638

>>78485395
>Establish boundaries between parasocial fans early on
Horrible advice.
>Expand your audience by collabing outside hololive
Meanwhile the HoloENs that did this (e.g. Nerissa) are runts and the most popular one has literally only collabed with her mama (Gura).
>Take frequent breaks for your mental health (don't feel like you always have to announce them)
Again, garbage advice. Unless you're already established, breaks will kill your momentum and the most important thing you want to do in your first year is capitalize on early momentum by streaming a lot and very regularly.

>> No.78496746

>>78484078
>>78485323
>>78486532
2 more weeks, sisters. You gonna say this about the new girls for a whole year like you have with Shiori?

>> No.78496810

>>78495896
>burp and fart a lot
I will now watch your chuuba

>> No.78496878

>>78485395
Thanks Kronii worked wonders for taking you from the top of your gen into the dumpster where you need to beg some of your homobeggar audience to buy merch

>> No.78496886

>>78483297
It's extremely simple. Just do whatever Fauna does.

>> No.78496937

>>78496746
OP is asking for advice and I just gave one. Afterall debut is crucial and shit you mispoke haunts you like that with shiori or clarify your stance just like bae. It is also a chance to gather as many viewers as you can afterall only 10% remains regular after debut.

>> No.78497067

I just don't want homos.
I honestly don't care about BF or even their husband, just like, separate it from your main stream/socials and never mention it. This applies to my bro fleshtubers too, I just don't want to listen to your GF problems.
And at least just send us those wacky shipping fanservice cross branch and act remotely interested in Holo. People pay you for it, why reinvent the wheel?
Homo sucks and are good for nothing but subsidized fujobaits, bunch of leeches that brings nothing good and only burden for Hololive.

>> No.78497219

>>78484078
She always said that she wasn't going to collab with just anyone, and would only collab if she felt they were friends.
It wasn't even ambiguous. "Respect my collab choices" was something anons doing too many drugs hallucinated and then spammed. She never said any such thing or anything remotely resembling it. If anything that should make you mad at anons for deceiving you, and should make you mad at yourself for being so dumb and gullible.
There was no nuance, no ambiguity, no special way to interpret it. Yet crack head anons always turn anything into drama.

>> No.78497305

>>78487653
There is no ambiguity.

>> No.78497345

>>78497219
It was still a pretty dumb thing to say on debut. Why open the door to so much drama by making a vague comment about collabing with "friends" when she barely does any collabs at all? She made it sound like she was going to spam collabs with her 2 view indie friends

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>>78497067

>> No.78497387

>>78483297
Please stream more unlike the previous holoen gens, all of them were lazy af.

>> No.78497391

>>78490176
Try to please every schizo, and you just attract a fandom full of permanently displeased schizos.

>> No.78497509

>>78483297
Do not make vague statements at debut. Do not take a extended brake during your first week. Do not interact with males on stream

>> No.78497593

>>78497219
>>78486988
>Regarding collaborations
She already set up herself for ambiguity. Who the fuck discusses collaborations on a debut? These things happens on the course of your streaming life not at the very start. This only made a precedent that you are going to make a stance on that statement and anything other than that would be ambiguous.
>Respect my collab choices
This ambiguity gave anons to fill in the blanks. This statement is straight to the point, concise, and has the capacity to sway hearts. And came the assumption that she will be a homocollaber even 11 months in. And so this is what was retained from that whole ass paragraph whether you like it or not.

>> No.78497661

If you're already here, then you've already failed. This is the worst place to look advice for. Even so, if you're reading this, my genuine advice would be:

>Establish restrictions as early as possible
>Don't do GFE or any lewd type content if you're not the type to do so just because it's popular. You'll have a harder time in the long run if you did.
>Ignore those who create trouble(beggars, schizos, unicorns) and never incite hate or try to 'own' them. In that way you filter out the troublesome ones and be left with people who are actually interested for you and not because of something you do.
>Be as clear as possible, so that people don't get their hopes up. If you don't want to collab with anyone outside, tell them. If you do want to collab, collab with anyone you want. Doesn't matter to me as long as the other person is not an asshole who brings trouble and that most importantly, you do not bring trouble to the rest of the gen.
>Control your audience, not the other way around. You're a leader of community. Act like one.
>Your community's opinions are what matters, because their the ones supporting you. Try to grow with your community. Listen to what their opinions are on what content they want or what you're lacking and form your own opinion about it.
>Do not obsess too much on numbers. It's fine if you look at it at times, but when you get hyperfixated on it, you'll never have fun with whatever you do.

And finally, just be yourself and at the same time incorporate the character that you play. Do not be someone you're not. It's gonna get pretty tiring to keep up a facade. People are also gonna be more likely to watch you and stay if you actually genuinely enjoy what you do.

>> No.78497670

>>78483297
The ancient wisdom is that if you act like a whore you will be treated like one

>> No.78497753

>>78484078
>he's still seething about that
You realize that message was specifically because of people like you, right? Do you lack self-awareness?

>> No.78497840

>>78489140
Why? They are good to establish chemistry and get through the collab ban

>> No.78497894

Don't come to /vt/ ever again.

Also play va-11 hall-a

>> No.78497952

>>78492292
A fucking teamate unichud hahahahahab

>> No.78497980

>>78497753
This is just a hindsight review. After all the advent debut playbook is the best so far minus that blunder.

>> No.78498062

>>78483297
do as advent did and if they don't want that at least don't pull an ame/kronii

>> No.78498100

>>78483616
>no homo collabs
sorry anon, they're European; you'll get your flirty homo collabs and you'll enjoy it

>> No.78498116

>>78497980
But it wasn't a blunder. She was just telling the retards to preemptively shut the fuck up. This was never about homo collabs, it was for the shit you see happening to Nerissa where any time she reaches outside of Hololive there's a flareup of spergs shitting in her and whoever she's with(to be fair in Nerissa case the behavior is somewhat warranted because she's extremely susceptible to being groomed.)

Shiori was basically saying "If I'm collabing with someone it's because I've reached the point where I like them and consider them a friend. Don't disrespect them or assume the worst." It was not a homo warning.

>> No.78498129

>>78483297
You should've pushed back against these trash designs. Try to salvage them as much as you can through your personalities.

>> No.78498229

>>78483420
>>78483616
>>78483622
>>78483747
Jup

>> No.78498298

>>78498116
It was pointless then because nobody will accept collabs outside Hololive just because they're friends. I don't care how close Mori is to Ironmouse letting that grifter leech is something I will always criticize.

>> No.78498358

>>78483297
Please don't get one guy'd too often for fuck sake.

>> No.78498378

>>78490208
>Reddit frog
Die.

>> No.78498383

>>78492292
>>78492802

Other than the Ame part, I agree with you

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>>78483297
Please have sex with me.

>> No.78498583

>>78498482
Unless she does a complete 180 she's going to be the biggest homocollaber in Hololive. Very unfortunate because I like her design.

>> No.78498609

>>78496878
Poor Kronii. Oh wait,
>>78489198

>> No.78498648

>>78485838
>they all have secret bf, anon.
Not my oshi.

>> No.78498693

>>78498482
>literally just her with yellow contacts
holy laziness

>> No.78498711

>>78484906
They can fuck an entire village off stream, I don't care. But don't bring it to hololive.

There's nijisanji for that.

>> No.78498736

>>78498609
Have Fuwamoco really almost done more streams than Kronii in under a year?

>> No.78498745

>>78483297
Help Fauna build her tree
Please...

>> No.78498788

>>78498609
Kind of disingenuous numbers there since the lions share of that SC revenue came from before her yab. Her SC revenue for 2024 is around $10k USD

>> No.78498793

>>78483297
My advice is learn to play Minecraft before streaming it.

>> No.78498810

>>78497661
Damn this is beautiful Anon, I'm gonna take this advice for myself too

>> No.78498850

>>78483297
Be honest from day one what your intentions are. That's all.
If you want to do any level of GFE, make that apparent early on and do NOT have a bf/husband.
If you want to collab with the Stars, mention it on day one.
If you want to simply be an idol first streamer second, make that apparent from the start.
If you're uncomfortable with gachi fans, dont gachibait at all and potentially nip it in the bud as early as possible.
TLDR; Be honest and foster the community you want to foster and don't obfuscate or lie.

>> No.78498853

>>78489198
inners...
takos fucking pay up

>> No.78498875

>>78498788
You mean her "yab" 2 years ago? Sure, keep up the cope.

>> No.78498936

>>78492292
>Remember, I don't care if you have a secret boyfriend, a husband
Based cuck

>> No.78498965

>>78498875
Yes. The one she made the majority of that money before. Her merch sales and SCs dropped off a cliff after it. Go ahead post the average SC per stream before and after her homo collabs

>> No.78498983

>>78498788
It's more disingenuous how these people hyperfocus on SCs when they are the least important and least reliable revenue source especially for corpos.

>> No.78499125

>>78498965
>Go ahead post the average SC per stream before and after her homo collabs
You do that, it's your theory to prove.

>> No.78499246

>>78499125
I'm going to accept your concession in anon's stead.

>> No.78499253

>>78483297
-dont come close to homos unless its absolutely necessary not because of "muh unicorn" but only to avoid drama and giving sisters and anti ammo to stirr shit.
-focus on building fanbase and just focus on it, not being a retard or dumbass like ollie who got used by grifter.
-dont waste your potential, if you want to sing or play instrument, go for it, if you want to do asmr, gfe whatever but YOU REALLY WANT IT, go for it, dont listen to ppl who didnt even watch you to begin with.

>> No.78499300

>>78483297
Think what seperates the most viewed (Gura, Fauna, Mumei) from the least viewed (Bae, Mori, Kiara)
Most holofans prefer just holocollabs and not an overtly crude personality. Content choice matters too

>> No.78499340

>>78483297
Be funny

>> No.78499605

>>78499246
Why be a retard in someone's stead? They are doing a good job themselves.

>> No.78499664

>>78499300
>Think what seperates the most viewed (Gura, Fauna, Mumei) from the least viewed (Bae, Mori, Kiara)
NA timezone?

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>>78495593
Ame has a whole multiverse of side-characters

>> No.78499796

>>78498853
Ina ignores 90% of Superchats that get sent since day 1, her community doesn't have a sc culture. Her merch does really well by all accounts so it doesn't really mater.

>> No.78499885

If you want to collab with men and ecelebs make it clear in your debut or you will have angry/disappointed fans in the future at some point.

Just make it clear and ser expectations.

>> No.78499950

>>78499664
Not really. Fauna streams quite early and Mumei often late

>> No.78500009

>>78483297
stream consistently, love your fans, read chat, also finish the game you played

>> No.78500049

>>78483616
this^^

>> No.78500071

>>78499300
I'll explain what separates them
>Fauna
Has a completely uncontested timeslot only contested by Ina sometimes, this lets her get big numbers consistently and now viewers from that slot have become her regulars over a long period of having an overpowered slot with zero overlap
>Mumei
Rarity streaming buff, the one month she didn't have school and was streaming consistently was the worst month of her entire career. I prefer to call it the Ayame buff since she streams the least in her gen
>Gura
It's fucking Gura lmao, the biggest western vtuber period, she's unmatched in this regard and there are no excuses here besides her charisma

>> No.78500075

>>78498745
KEKW

>> No.78500096

>>78483297
If you want a steady income don’t speed out on your fans and tell collab beggars to fuck off from the start

>> No.78500346

>>78483297
learn to cut a promo for once you dimeless geek

>> No.78500573
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>>78483297
Ignore homobeggars and homofags. They became so deranged all they care about is drawing cuck porn and cuckposting you and any homo you interact with, unless that is your thing. >>78484834
Other corpofags also join in to do it, even if you aren't doing anything egregious.

>> No.78500709

>>78496810
>>>>>>/vag/

>> No.78500948

>>78483297
Get out of /vt/
Yeah it's great feeling to have anons talking about (You) but you're bound to let words affect you, sooner or later
>Haha. I've been on the basket weaving forum for 15 years I don't give a shit
Chuubas that hang out /here/ always turn into lolcows. Remember that.

>> No.78501876

Do
Not
Get
One
Guyed.

>> No.78501976

>>78501876
do not listen to this man listen to the one guy

>> No.78502127

>>78487364
Exactly, this is Hololive circa 2024, four HoloEN gens in, and people know what works versus what doesn't. And they dealing with EU timezone debuff.

>> No.78502229

>>78483297
If you're here, leave /vt/ and never look back. There's nothing worthwhile here. Only vipers and vultures.

>> No.78502383

>>78502229
Have sex with Kronii
Have sex with Mumei
Have sex with Irys
Have sex witb Fauna
Have sex with Bae
Have sex with Gura
Have sex with Ame
Have sex with Mori
Have sex with Ina
Have sex with Kaira
Have sex with Fuwawa
Have sex with Mococo
Have sex with Nerissa
Have sex with Shiori
Have sex with Biboo

>> No.78502789

>>78483297
- If you have a huge accent or are big ESL get better at English and get to at least Kiara's level cause standards are higher
- Do not take a break within the first couple of months after debuting; if you have to make it short, like a few days
- Always get along with either Mori or Kiara as they are the center of the two largest cliques in EN
- Gura is the closet thing to princess status in EN, even if it's behind the scenes, never attack her or appear to be cold to her. Gura won't do anything but a lot of people in EN and JP will cut you off and if you crossed a line Cover will throw you out so fast
- learn to manage you new income; you will need it to pay for special projects and videos that can help you stand out more

>> No.78502820

>>78483297
Have lots and lots of hot lesbian sex with eachother to form a bond as a unit. One-on-one, threesomes and foursomes every chance you get.

>> No.78502859

>>78497661
I mostly agree with this but feel like some points need empathized
>Your community's opinions are what matters, because their the ones supporting you. Try to grow with your community. Listen to what their opinions are on what content they want or what you're lacking and form your own opinion about it.
>form your own opinion about it
it's important not to let your community gas light you into content you're not enjoying. I've seen too many vtubers try something out for a bit of fun (haha, I'm a cute girl playing 40k/4x/grand strategy games tee hee) and attract turbo autists who only suggest those niche games because they did it one time.

>> No.78502868

>>78502383
Two girl can't have sex, stupid. It's all the alphabet crowd propaganda.

>> No.78502869
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78502869

Dont do this you dumb fucks
https://x.com/ERBloodflame/status/1803392900819984612

>> No.78502991

>>78502869
Oh no, it's over. Time to off yourself.

>> No.78503044

>>78499688
trucker Ame my beloved

>> No.78503294

>>78502869
This fucking homobeggar again.

>> No.78505311

>>78483297
Learn to play Mario Kart and Minecraft

>> No.78505343

Don't homocolla-
>>78502869
Oh, it's already owari.

>> No.78506548

>>78495593
- Want an unofficial fifth member?

>> No.78506762

>>78498853
>ignores superchats
>tells takos she prefers they take care of themselves
If anything its impressive that despite actively dissuading people into not giving her money she still gets that much

>> No.78506797

Tweet Flat is Justice or get branded as a newfag anti.

>> No.78506950

>>78492292
>I don't care if you have a secret boyfriend
Go back to your reddit general

>> No.78507005

>>78483297
do not read /vt/

>> No.78507170

Thread full of cucks, disgusting

>> No.78507240

>>78483297
Don't collab with dudes and stream. Literally that is all

>> No.78507322

>>78492292
It's always a post with "chad" image

>> No.78507440

>ctrl+f: Homo, 1 of 51

>> No.78509064

>>78483297
Always have a backup stream

>> No.78510295

>>78507440
Cock obsessed thread, cock obsessed board

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>>78498648
dyrbi

>> No.78510839

>>78489198
Why is this ordered by sc number instead of ammount?

>> No.78510955

>>78498965
>Her merch sales and SCs dropped off a cliff after it.
I know this because I extrapolated a pattern from one datapoint
And it wasn't even a good datapoint. Everyone ordered from geekjack for that merch because they had way better shipping

>> No.78511194

>>78502869
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH IT'S A UNITY GEN

>> No.78511306

>>78500573
Unicrons don't buy shit.
They don't even have any money to burn.

>> No.78511439

>>78483297
Just be yourself and don't try to be someone else.

>> No.78511497

>>78502869
Already dead on arrival. Trying to destroy all of Advent hard work kek.

>> No.78511512

>>78483297
Remember that most of your fans are borderline retarded. You're basically signing up to teach a special-ed class and sell them toys. If you go into it with that mindset, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.

>> No.78511830

>>78511512
It should be alarming how well talents with a background in child care perform

>> No.78511961

>>78483297
Just fakin stream! Nothing else matters! You can be a yab monster if all you do is stream you will be forgiven!

>> No.78511983

>>78483297
You're under a very strict NDA, never forget that, ever.

>> No.78512196

>>78511512
Actually a sound advice. There's also a danger of overdoing it though, as we've already seen. Nothing borderline about ruffians.

>> No.78512316

>>78483297
Don't mention men, don't collab with men and don't collab with Nijitrash.

>> No.78512562

>>78512316
Too late advice anon...

>> No.78512897

>>78502869
For the two decent ones remaining don't do this.
Normalfags and cucks are outnumbered 1 to 4 by unicorns and real fans. 5000+ 3dpd celebrities already exist each of them hopping to a new dick whenever the magazines deem it necessary. Vtubing is NOT an anime Hollywood

>> No.78513102

>>78511512
This is the best description of Hololive fandom and I am fully in it and dont even feel insulted. I just wanna support my magic demi-goddess Atlantean Sharkgirl

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>>78483297

>> No.78513284

>>78483297
so how's mori gonna leech hard off who agian?

>> No.78513336

>>78512897
Kek, the depths of delusion

>> No.78513432

>>78483297
RTA graduation/firing. Cecilia is the only one worth saving.

>> No.78513433

Turn parental controls on for your web browser
Block this website so you don’t get brain rot
Block Reddit too so you don’t get monkeypox

>> No.78513697

>>78500573
Antis are wildcards. Some actually pay a lot of money to anti people. Delutaya used to have people pay to enter her fanbox just so they could anti her and then get banned only to buy a new memberships once she started having lawyers throw Cease and Desists it dried up. Coco had the same issue with chinks.

Antis are wild. They make their entire persona about hating someone they don't really know because of perceived flights they make up in their heads.

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>>78489198
b-biboo?

>> No.78514722

>>78500071
Then there's also IRyS and Biboo. What you said are certainly factors, but what is certain is that homocollabers have a much more difficult time getting to the top and usually end up at the bottom

>> No.78515242

>>78514722
What is certain is that numberniggers should rope themselves. The rest is mostly their personal bias and misuse of data.

>> No.78515259

Try to create a meme or persona that is unique to you or your brand identity. It helps to set you apart from your peers and senpai and creates a light-hearted atmosphere. You can try to force them like Bijou in the early months untill it catches on.

Fuwamoco- Hoeh, Mogojan, 'fluffy' and 'fuzzy' jokes, mocosneeze

Bijou- Jerudo,jeep, Sticking out your gyatt, :D, window laugh

Nerissa- Fertile sounding, wannabe mom

Shiori- unhinged tangents, constantly fighting with henmama, I can't fix her

>> No.78515271

>>78484834
>follow advents example and don't give them an inch.
too late for that. lmao

>> No.78515316

>>78483297
do not be french
that's all

>> No.78515799

>>78492292
>That bitch literally needs a dick in her life
yeah me

>> No.78515864

>>78511306
This might just be the most retarded comment I've seen.

>> No.78515941

>>78513697
Gachi/Unicorn to Anti pipeline is a very real thing.

>> No.78516221

>>78515941
Madness/stupidity is the common thread. Unicorns don't realize they're the fat, unattractive version of a yandere. Jealous boyfriends without the boyfriend part. "If I can't have you, no one can!" They'll never recognize it, though. That would only be possible if they weren't crazy/stupid.

>> No.78516292

>>78516221
damn, keep going sister. let out all the seethe.

>> No.78516379

>>78516221
So true sis

>> No.78516810

>>78491879
The opposite they don't even do their job. They're her irl/online friends.

>> No.78517034

>>78515941
That usually happens when their oshi suddenly changes their conduct after a year or more of streaming and it's a small minority. Homobeggar to anti pipeline is also real and they don't even watch the girls they just start anti-ing them when someone doesn't support "the boys". It's just an extension of the culture war for them

>> No.78517316

>>78517034
> suddenly changes their conduct
You mean the fake idea of them they built up in their head based on actually nothing turns out to be at odds with reality

>> No.78517862

>>78517316
Not collabing with homos isn't as difficult as you make it out to be

>> No.78517953

>>78517316
It's as easy as not interacting with homos and other male ilk on your company account.
Who the fuck gives a shit if its on an alt.

>> No.78518223

>>78517862
>>78517953
And now we see that it was never about their conduct changing, it was always about doing exactly as the unicorns demand.

>> No.78518478

>>78483297
don't be like mori
be consistent
smile :D

>> No.78518574

>>78518223
Yes. If you want my support you're going to have to do stuff I like. Good luck getting homobeggars to watch you

>> No.78518693

>>78518478
Oh yeah Biboo is going to be a direct senpai

>> No.78518762

>>78483297
Don't collab with males
Stream 5 days a week minimum.
Move to Japan.
Learn Japanese.

>> No.78518859

>>78518574
99% of fans don't give a fuck either way. Both you and your imaginary homobeggars can fuck off and noone will notice.

>> No.78518907

>>78518762
The last 2 are what killed fuwamocos momentum

>> No.78519058

>>78518859
>says this when Regloss happened.

>> No.78519282

>>78519058
Yeah, I'm totally sure that's the reason nobody cares about...what was it again, "Re-" something?

>> No.78519289

>>78518859
>imaginary homobeggars
>while he homobegs
lmfao

>> No.78519363

>>78518859
sister really do reuses the talking point against them KEK thinking if it true for them, it would be true for others.

>> No.78519375

>>78517316
Kek stop seething sister nobody wants to watch your faggots, get over it. You should try supporting them once in a while instead of crying here.

>> No.78519385

>>78483297
Follow your dreams, reach for the stars, and don't let anyone tell you that you're not good enough.

>> No.78519395

>>78519058
who?
i'll forget en4 just like them

>> No.78519577

Justice stocks are down
They'll be ReGloss 2.0 in no time

>> No.78519646

>>78519375
>nobody wants to watch your faggots
Completely mischaracterizing the situation (to your favor, of course). It's never "This chuuba is collabing with someone I don't want to watch, so I'll skip this stream."
It's "How DARE she collab with a male (who isn't me)! I'll never watch her content again. She's dead to me. Dead!"
That's a completely different thing than "I don't want to watch this guy."

>> No.78519648

>>78483297
Don't pay attention to what /vt/ says, or what Twitter says, or what Reddit says

>> No.78519697

>>78519646
Keep malding redditard

>> No.78519708

>>78483616
get REKT UNIKEK HAHAHA

>> No.78519751

>>78483297
Green should go back to pandering to me by pretending to be a giantess and pink cat should do the same. Orange flatty should tone down the zoomerism just a tad. Red lady should pull an IRyS and ask for a redesign because she looks wonky.

>> No.78519876

>>78519697
>lies
>someone points out the lie
>"Keep malding redditard"

>> No.78519896

>>78519289
That was my first comment IIT. Where the fuck did I say anything about homos? You're just proving my point, moron.

>> No.78520406

>>78485395
COVER HIRE THIS WOMAN

>> No.78520656

>>78510674
yes. my oshi never lies

>> No.78521036

>>78519646
Homocollabs bring with them homobeggars and it shows the vtuber doesn't know what their fanbase is, like Kronii thinking that all of her fans have friends of the opposite sex, so I have no interest to support that

>> No.78521059

>>78519375
I don't watch stars.
I just don't become emasculated if they show up in a stream because I'm not a pathetic loser.

>> No.78521175

>>78483297
Since you girls are /here/ yes, please follow the 2nd post advice

>> No.78521250

>>78521059
>stars
Sure thing, sister

>> No.78521377

>>78521250
>oh noeh, the anon who disagrees with me doesn't fit into my predefined pigeonhole of "those that disagree with me on /vt/"
>I can just pretend that they do instead!

>> No.78521732

>>78521036
What if it's (you) who doesn't know what their fanbase is? Kronii is still doing fine.
No, couldn't be, everyone else must be equally mentally ill.

>> No.78521919

>>78498648
yes she does. Every single one of them does. Every girl that isn't a deformed cripple or 600 lb whale has a boyfriend or husband. All of them. To think young, cute, wealthy weeb girls aren't instantly snatched up is just delusional.

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>>78489198
huuuuuuuuuuh, considering from this dataset, homo EN is valid as fuck - who would have thought

>> No.78522291

>>78521732
she's doing "fine" when she could have been an absolute megastar. She was first in council by like 150k subs, now she's a shitter. Her growth completely stagnated for over a year. All she had to do was keep doing what she was doing and she'd have probably passed Kiara and Ina at this point just on her voice and model alone. But she just had to own le heckin incels, women are so stupid.

>> No.78522642

>>78522291
>unicuck revisionist history
Or is it p-chan back from her grave?
Kronii has been "sabotaging her popularity" since the beginning. She has never cared about numbers and people were theorizing that she wants to drop on purpose because she doesn't want to be the leader of her gen.
She is in fact exactly where she wants to be doing what she likes.
No amount of unicuck seethe will change that.

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>>78489947

>> No.78522750

>>78522291
>could have been an absolute megastar
>she'd have probably
More baseless delusions. You are irrelevant just accept it.

>> No.78522956

>>78492292
>unicorn
>portrays himself as a chinese eunuch
lmaoooo

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