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What can Kiara do better so that you will actually click her videos? Give honest feedback no bullshit. She has an attractive design almost everyone will agree. So why aren't you giving her a chance?

>> No.7841365

>>7841239
I unsubscribed over her Nyanners collab and do not intend to renege on that.
I do not and will not endorse people who shit on lolicon. I don't enjoy it myself - always been a cakefag, probably always will be - but it is a surefire way to filter out people that I do not wish to associate with or support.
Sorry, anon.

>> No.7841446

KFP-chad here. Kiara's my favorite, but I can see why she might not be everyone's favorite. She has a really strong personality as well as that European bluntness. She also streams really early in the morning for anyone in the USA, and by the time the archive is up, another EN is streaming live. She's great though, and it's been wonderful to see her improve the quality of her streams over the year

>> No.7841456

>>7841239
I think alot of people just don't like her voice and German mannerisms

Don't worry about Kiara, she went the small but zealously loyal route in building her following, even if she didn't intend to
They shower her with money

>> No.7841552

>>7841239
she's great overall but her voice filters me hard

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>>7841239
never

>> No.7841686

>>7841586
Holy shit Keeki is based. Good for her to have the courage to stand up against racial violence publicly

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I watch Kiara often. I have no issues with her whatsoever. /vt/'s manic bullshit has not nor will it ever dissuade me.

>> No.7841811

>>7841686
Go post more interracial porn on pol, nigger.

>> No.7841829

Honest feedback? She's blunt, would rather start stuff than stay quiet, and... I really think she needs someone who can challenge/spar with her verbally. The rest of holoEN can't keep up with her energy; even Ina with her snark turned to 100 (see: Minecraft 1-on-1 collab) barely has enough to fight back.
To reword that... I think she's trying to pull an improv/manzai on every moment, which the rest aren't used to - and breaking the tribalism, I can see Elira or Selen successfully trade with her should they ever collab.

>> No.7841834

Honest answer, it's the voice. I can get into Luna and Migo, but I'm not a masochist enough to listen to Kiara's fake chicken voice. Even watching from the other girl's povs, I had to lower the volume because they seem to not lower Kiara specifically.
It's made worse by the fact that her roommate's voice is actually tolerable and pretty nice-sounding.

>> No.7841839

>>7841586
didn't know she was this based. thanks.

>> No.7841902

>>7841829
Well said. This is why she and nyanners had such good chemistry

>> No.7841931

I did give her a chance a few months ago, I couldn't make it to the end of the stream. She fucking sucks

>> No.7842015

>>7841686
courage? this is a mainstream view, now if she said fuck niggers and kikes I'll probably respect her

>> No.7842019

>>7841829
To add to this (samefagging, sorry), Ame theoretically could do it with Kiara, but she has to first treat her like she treats chat. Which... knowing Ame's behavior around her co-talents, is a tall order for her.
Also, yeah, that voice is shrill as fuck. I can handle it because I've heard worse, but I can hear why people would back off from her because of it.
Also, >>7841239 forgot to give a (You); here's thanks for calling for no-bullshit.

>> No.7842075

>>7841829
we need an Italian holo with hand gestures incorporated

>> No.7842086

Games with gambling
JRPGs
B tier low budget janky western crap, like Biomutant
Singing
Collabing with JP senpais
Those are the streams of hers that I watch.
She carved herself a niche by being able to do all of the above, it's only natural that whenever they're all doing the same thing that doesn't fit any of those, she'll have the least amount of people interested.
Everyone who subscribed just because of the Tales of embassador thing isn't gonna watch her play a drawing game with her friends, they don't care about the game, the friends or even Hololive. It's not my case, but it's another reason.

>> No.7842099

She doesn't really need to change tack nor get more views by this point. She seems to be settling into a groove, streaming what she likes and doing projects like cons that she enjoys.

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>>7842015
Anon chill out. Trump lost. You can drop the edge

>> No.7842133

>>7842075
KEK, somebody please make Aruran some hand props. PLEASE.

>> No.7842139

>>7841902
Hilariously, even in that collab Nyanners was being btfo'd (it's where "Kiara is in control..." came from). I think a second collab would even the playing field, now that she's used to Kiara's style.

>> No.7842187

>>7841239
I will never like Kiara.

>> No.7842351

>>7841239
I really don't get it. She's always the most entertaining out of them during collabs.

>> No.7842520

>>7841239
Kiara doesn't care about her numbers. Seethe harder OP.

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>>7841239
After the Nyanners and Shadowverse streams, I thought she was going out of her way to be another Ollie, so I became a Trinityfag. Nowadays she isn't bad, I have to start watching her again but when it comes to collabs she's the last I would watch with the exception of Mori
>>7841365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01AHk127QSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4qr884715k?t=3195
Don't worry anon, almost all retards get filtered by the members being lolicons. Believe me, there isn't a week I don't find a greekchama who is a holofag get assblasted when that is pointed out
The only ones that didn't get filtered were a clipwatcher Vshojofag, a chumbud in denial and some 16 y/o that believes it's okay if they do it. Those are only three compared with literally like 50

>> No.7842642

>>7841239
Drop the chicken voice.
Also, collab isn't the best example. It's asking what makes me click her over any of the others, where the simple answer is she isn't my favorite.

>> No.7842681

>>7841239
Not talk

>> No.7842689

>>7841239
Just allow her to do the full pekora act in english, simple as.

>> No.7842738

>>7842596
>Don't worry anon, almost all retards get filtered by the members being lolicons. Believe me, there isn't a week I don't find a greekchama who is a holofag get assblasted when that is pointed out
>The only ones that didn't get filtered were a clipwatcher Vshojofag, a chumbud in denial and some 16 y/o that believes it's okay if they do it. Those are only three compared with literally like 50
That's fine, but I want sensibility in choice of collab, and this was a lab of judgement I do not want to excuse.
The last 10 years have proven that these sorts of people do not go away if you ignore them.
Thus, I am giving them the favour they'd give me.

>> No.7842825

>>7841239
Change her voice and chill out a bit. I would watch if she wasn't so "in your face" constantly.

>> No.7842883

>>7842351
I agree, but that's a subjective metric. Kiara's content type is more niche by nature between her RPG streams and extroversion.

If I were to give my two cents, it's that uppn analysis of her entire "life" as Kiara, she hasn't fallen into any of the "extremes" when it comes to Holomembers (not that doing so is good or bad inherently). You have your chiller members (Ina, Okayu, Roboco), and your Excitable members (Ame, Subaru, Marine). Kiara seems to fall in the middle, despite what the Clips and /vt/ suggest. It's true that she can get loud during peak moments and Collabs, she come off as surprisingly subdued during lulls in gameplay or a good number of her Superchat readings (I'll use Yakuza as an example, wherein she was consistently flip-flopping from high to low energy)

This causes her to not exactly have as many fans who gravitate toward the extremes (again, not that doing so is good or bad), at least from my point of view. That's just how she comes across to me.

>> No.7843170

>>7841239
change her voice

>> No.7843172

>>7842738
>That's fine, but I want sensibility in choice of collab, and this was a lab of judgement I do not want to excuse.
Well yeah, I didn’t watch the collab and watched Ina x Pikamee instead
>The last 10 years have proven that these sorts of people do not go away if you ignore them.
>Thus, I am giving them the favour they'd give me.
If even r/hololive can gatekeep itself with things like that Shoujo Ramune post and the likes of Brittany Venti were and still are heavily mocked, I don’t think things will change that easily. If you ask me, we gatekeep weeb culture even better than any anime community

>> No.7843353

>>7842131
Take it easy bernie tranny, we're all in the same place here.

>> No.7843424

>>7843172
>Well yeah, I didn’t watch the collab and watched Ina x Pikamee instead
Yes, but a sub is still an endorsement however small.
> If even r/hololive can gatekeep itself
The fact you know that makes me find it difficult not to consider you part of the issue, no offense.
These things creep in and then do not leave.
> than any anime community
They don't. Again, no offense, but you don't know/choose not to know about the level of corruption already going on in those places.
Every click, every view, every comment, every recommendation not clicked away advances the cause and watching something else instead is not a viable solution.
I know this is small. Infinitesimally small. But consider this: We're ultimately into Japanese culture because our host cultures did not provide for our needs.
I do not wish for those responsible for that fact to turn what I love into more of itself.
Thus, I adopt this hardline stance.

>> No.7843453

Did ever actually meet a stacy type girl? Did they actually meet someone who was straight forward?
When I watch kiara, i can see her fake pandering, faking "memes", faking "ships" in takamori. She's one of the only holos who does a lot of fake shit.

Good thing is even normies can see through her fake charade which leads to less numbers and likability. I also hope kfp meet an actual girl in their lives.

>> No.7843547

>>7843424
You're talking to someone who thinks its okay for kids to cut their dicks off while at the same time attacking people who like lolicon. I think that redditor can be ignored.

>> No.7843550

>>7841239
I probably watch Kiara most of the EN girls. If she wants to improve her numbers she should play different games. But she doesn't really need to and she seems to be enjoying what she's doing.

>> No.7843587

>>7843453
I agree completely, she just had a blatant facade going on with her personality while all the other ones seem much more natural. She doesn't seem to want to show weakness and is always trying to keep up some appearance it seems to me.

>> No.7843597

>>7841239
It's the chicken voice.

>> No.7843722

>>7843453
>>7843587
you both have clearly never watched much of her. she's the exact opposite.

>> No.7843731

>>7843587
Yup, this is why I crack up whenever kfp say her haters are angry incels because kiara is a stacy. It exposes them as someone who hasnt actually met a strong woman but a manipulative one.

Stacies are confident, they dont pussyfoot around. They dont force ships to get more numbers. They dont especially gfebait with depression. I dont know which unis or non-white community schools kfp went to but theirs and general definition of stacy is completely different.

>> No.7843822

>>7843547
>You're talking to someone who thinks its okay for kids to cut their dicks off while at the same time attacking people who like lolicon. I think that redditor can be ignored.
Yeah pretty much.

>> No.7843872

>>7843597
It’s as easy as this to know why. Her voice is grating, making it all the more obnoxious when she gets shrill

>> No.7843880

>>7841239
I'd like to see Kiara do what Ollie sort of did and have different versions of herself with different voices and personalities. That way she could A/B test and see what people really like.

>> No.7843899

>>7841239
>She has an attractive design
No
She's only above IRyS among Hololive designs, the second worst.

>> No.7843941

>>7842520
>>Kiara doesn't care about her numbers
She's the one out of EN who actively cares about her numbers.

>> No.7843972

>>7843424
>Yes, but a sub is still an endorsement however small
I’m not subbed to Kiara
>The fact you know that makes me find it difficult not to consider you part of the issue, no offense.
>These things creep in and then do not leave
I only knew about it thanks to a tweet and went to there to laugh at the retards, but can I understand how you feel
>They don't. Again, no offense, but you don't know/choose not to know about the level of corruption already going on in those places.
>Every click, every view, every comment, every recommendation not clicked away advances the cause and watching something else instead is not a viable solution.
>I know this is small. Infinitesimally small. But consider this: We're ultimately into Japanese culture because our host cultures did not provide for our needs.
>I do not wish for those responsible for that fact to turn what I love into more of itself.
>Thus, I adopt this hardline stance.
Comprehensible, I know and have seen this supposed corruption you’re talking about. At least feel comforted by the fact that there will always be people fighting against those changes and I think many are starting to open their eyes about this “invasion”
>>7843547
Take your meds, I’m literally the opposite of everything you said

>> No.7844022

>>7841239
Graduate.

>> No.7844051

>>7843731
You're describing Suisei

>> No.7844350

>>7841239
I used to watch her streams, I genuinely enjoyed some of them. I unsubscribed and haven't watched a single one since she decided to promote a leech who would condemn half the hololive girls as pedophiles.

>> No.7844442

>>7842520

Wat? Not the OP, but Kiara cares the most out of all of EN about her numbers. She was legit sad she got to 1mil slower than everyone else, and is obsessed about Sparks not getting enough views.

>> No.7844485

>>7841239
I'm already watching her videos, though.

>> No.7844635

>>7844442
I mean, it was more like her feeling that she wasn't as good as the others and despairing over the possibility of having pity subs. Kinda like an inferiority complex thing.

https://youtu.be/xK9q8gXQE-w

>> No.7844712

>>7844442
>Kiara cares the most out of all of EN about her numbers
Kiare accepts her numbers the way they are. You'd know that if you actually watched her streams Anon.

>> No.7844765

>>7841239
If she'd stop being fucking annoying, that'd help

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