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Anons like to go on and on about this corpo and the endless fuckups from the EN branch, but what about the main branch?
Has recent events affected anything with NijiJP's longtime presence in japan?
Have any recent talents shown remorse being employed by them?
Are their numbers also declining like EN?
Can they no longer be considered the main competition of Hololive there?

This is more important with seeing whether the yacht will sink or not than EN.

>> No.78102623

no impact
Nijisanji's top talents are basically monoliths of the industry at this point

>> No.78102669

>>78102608
The top males arent that affected and still are the best performing Maletubers in the industry right now. Everyone else is seeing decline though. There have also been some recent graduations from top livers.

>> No.78102862
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>>78102608
Nobody talks about jp vtubers here, try /jp/ next time.

>> No.78102899

>>78102608
You saw the report. They earn more than ever.
Morale could be better, but it isn't the lowest. And it never was really high in first place. One thing I would say is that they all lack ambition, so they're fine with doing whatever Anycolor tells them to do.

>> No.78102925

>>78102862
>nobody talks about jp vtubers here
why do I look upon the catalog and find a sea of watame, towa, lamy, marine and everyone else staring back at me then, retard-chama?

>> No.78103270
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Why did she leave? I learned she reincarnated pretty quick.

>> No.78103401

>>78102925
Hololive board

>> No.78103485

>>78102608
Nijisanji main branch has 146 members anon. ALL Hololive production talents (including ex-talents) is still smaller than this group alone in terms of population

Sure Kuzuha leaving can cause decent damage to the yacht, but they can continue surviving. What they really wanna avoid is either the company itself is in danger like tax evasion or China starting WW3, or the organs organize a coup in Nijisanji and JP sisters call for boycott. Once you lose the JP sisters, you are done for, and no amount of buyback can get that fanbase back

>> No.78103524

>>78102608
go to /jp/ newfag

>> No.78103609

>>78102608
JP is doing fine but not really growing. I know that for Q4, they spammed merch drops, used part of NijiFes merch profits to pad up numbers, and had a few successful concerts, but their report clearly states most of the money is from merch. People only have so much tolerance for shitty cookie-cutter merch where even bootlegs are higher quality.

Also, the yen is not doing good, so the increase in revenue is made negligible by the decreasing value of the yen. The money being used for a stock buyback instead of improving assets will lead to them getting left further behind in technology as well

>> No.78103618

>>78102608
I think they'll be alright so long as they keep their heads down and keep any baseball jokes to themselves

>> No.78103620

>>78103270
management. she said she was sick of them picking favorites and that they only showed up when it was beneficial to them. they only claimed someone was nijisanji and protected by the brand when it would benefit the business.

>> No.78103995

>>78102608
Nijisanji's "management style" (or lack thereof) has always been chaos. It works just fine in JP because there's no language barrier to cause confusion or get in the way of communication, but the entire reason the foreign branches keep imploding is because they just apply this same management style to everyone else. They let foreign talents just roam free range and assume they won't do stupid shit because making the company look bad ultimately sabotages themselves as well.

JP is perfectly fine if you aren't serious about vtubing or if you just want to make money streaming, but if you want a pursue a serious idol career, they're a dead end and you're better off using them to get exposure.

>> No.78104782

>>78102608
They're fine for the most part, EN on the other hand is almost guaranteed to get cut as a branch.

>> No.78104873

>>78103620
link?

>> No.78104975

>>78102608
if you follow JP vtubing atleast before 2019 you know that nijiJP is stuck, while holo and vspo are thriving and keep climbing, reason? mostly normal general stuff like unlike holo and vspo who come with unique "niche", niji are just a general vtuber company, which mean that they are competing with many other general vtuber company without anything special coming with them, the other reason is that their livers finally realise how shit niji is and how others are treated and paid better, thats why they are starting to leave and ofc niji as black company keep shoot themself on the foot, its just they can "hide" it in japan easily, meanwhile for EN/west they cant do that, thats why everyone can see how dead nijiEN is.

>> No.78105199

>>78103270
historically she is one of the most superchatted people in the company
assuming the paypigs followed it's probably a good deal

>> No.78105502

>>78103270
She's a good slave when they want to sell her merch but throw her to the wolf when she need to lawyer up against her harraser.
Ps: she hired her own lawyer using her own money and anycolor using her win as their own.

>> No.78105640

Niji jp is doing great and il argue the strongest in jp
top3
>niji jp
>holo jp
>vspo brave group
en audience is vastly different they are practically lower than even small corpos atm
top3
>holo en
>vshojo
>phase connect

>> No.78105707

>>78102608
EN board, who cares
go to 2chan or something

>> No.78105739
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>>78105640
>Niji jp is doing great
>and il argue the strongest in jp
?

>> No.78105835

>>78105739
>DEV_IS higher than NijiEN
oof

>> No.78105896

>>78102608
>>78036339

>> No.78105919

>>78103524
/vt/ is literally containment for newfags because they were a cancer on /jp/
(you) have to be a special kind of retarded to call people here newfags and sending them to /jp/
Learn japanese faggot

>> No.78106078

>>78105919
/jp/ is the cancer, just because half of those nijinigger split to /vt/ and nyfco(now back here) make you think that /vt/ is worse, the one thing good about /vt/ is retarded nijinigger will get called out here.

>> No.78106196

>>78102608
Most of jp's first and second wave have graduated and like a quarter of the others don't even stream anymore. Jp is "fine" in that they have enough people to fill a 24h rotation and enough talented performers to churn out a 3D collab or concert every odd month.

>> No.78106337

>>78103995
We should add cultural differences and that will be the full answer. JP talents can survive and do well in such no management style because they are brought up differently.
People from other cultures like india, indonesia, america become total monkeys if they're left to roam free. Most of them feel zero need to give back to the community if management doesn't force them to and some will go out of their way to "own" their audience.

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>>78106196
>Most of jp's first and second wave have graduated
One from each is most?

>> No.78106615

>>78105739
I mean that anon is wrong but 2nd best isnt a bad thing. JP is doing fine

>> No.78106872

>>78104975
They were hiding it in the West pretty well too, until Selen Shock.
Zaion was the first serious crack but only dedicated and analytical fans of vtubers realized this, most people didn't care. Awareness was slowly rising throughout 2023 until it culminated in February 2024.

>> No.78107242

>>78106615
Doing great and doing fine are 2 different things, the niji audience has stagnated and they are relying only on the merch

>> No.78107768
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>>78102608
NIJI JP is staying put as Hololive JP does. Now go back to (you)r containment thread.

>> No.78107946

>>78107242
Having 2nd best revenue for Jap corpos does not seem like a bad deal at all. Cant deny that EN is 100% burning money though.

>> No.78107982

>>78105739
>doesn't include twitch when it would benefit both nijisanji and vspo on these charts
>site run by a blatant holofag
checks out

>> No.78107998

>>78107768
everything is shit now oyabun how do we go back

>> No.78108090

>>78105640
Ookay sister time to take your meds.

>> No.78108164

>>78107982
>Twitch numbah
Okay twitchfag why not kill yourself and your fake numbers. There's a reason we don't include twitch numbers when taking about numbers.

>> No.78108296

>>78102608
JP's fan base is full of japanese that suck the company's dick, even if something like the Selen incident happened they would blindly believe the company.

>> No.78108603

>>78107946
>2nd best revenue
Revenue wise, niji Q4 is lower than holo. It should be fine unless you use most of that Q4 revenue to do stock buyback at the growing company which promised to expand overseas.

>> No.78108717

>>78106337
>Most of them feel zero need to give back to the community if management doesn't force them to and some will go out of their way to "own" their audience.
I blame management for not vetting the talents properly. It's not hard to filter the selfish turds out of the application pool.

>> No.78109195

>>78102608
Short term, the branch as a whole is doing OK. They have some good talents that draw a lot of eyeballs and aren't being crushed by any big scandals right now. There have been some graduations of some older vTubers but it hasn't impacted them too badly.

The problem is the company is not being run very well and the money is being blowtorched on useless shit like stock buybacks. Because nothing is being invested in the company or talents, in thr long term, their competitive edge will decline.

I am convinced Riku is going to sell his shares soon and try to offload the whole thing on someone else.

>> No.78110038

>>78102925
Posting reaction images is not discussion of those vtubers.

>> No.78111763

>>78103618
>baseball jokes
qrd?

>> No.78111982

>>78102608
i mean, nijiJP is fine i guess? they are still in their own bubble of audience. they aren't trying to branch out, getting more overseas fans. their numbers will be the same, safe and sound if they don't fuck things up just like on the EN side.

>> No.78112247

>>78106078
Holy newfag, NijiEN did not exist during the creation of this board, why are you faffing on about nyfco. /vt/ is worse. Open /jp/, fuck, just open literally any blue board and you will see that /vt/ is the biggest cancer shithole. Even /mlp/ is more well behaved and has more English speakers.

>> No.78112584

>>78111763
Gundou got terminated on the spot for asking, as a joke, if hurting the team's best batter is a valid strategy.

>> No.78115360

>>78112584
imagine getting fired for a baseball joke

>> No.78117406

>>78105739
its crazy to me ho2 VSPO is a top 3 corpo rn.

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