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>last stream 123 days ago

>> No.78099585

good

>> No.78099630

>>78099585
fippybippy

>> No.78099736
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>>78099556
wait, seriously?
Where the fuck is she?
She wasn't even part of that black stream.
...Or did she finally grow a fucking conscience and realized what she did to Zaion was an exact parallel? Even then it wouldn't make any fucking sense considering everything that's happened since then.
Is she just terminated? Is she dead? What the fuck is going on with her?

>> No.78099783

>>78099736
Didn't she say something along the lines of coming back in august?

>> No.78099790

>>78099736
Mel terminator

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>>78099736
My personal rrat is that she has had it with Niji. Her "I'm fucking off tweet" was shortly before the black stream, so it looks like she reached her breaking point then. If you want to be charitable maybe you'll hope she feels bad about doing evil shit for an evil company, if you don't feel charitable maybe she's just done working for idiots. If it was a suspension it'd be over by now and I don't think I've ever seen a vtuber take a mental health break this long before.
>>78099783
No, people assumed that because she has a con appearance, but this might be just here bleeping in and out again, just like with the 3Ds.She seems to do things with other livers when she has to or is explicitly invited, but otherwise stays clear.

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>>78099556
>nijisanji """EN"""

>> No.78100449

>>78099556
At this point either the Mel rrat is true and she's completely 100% no holds bar getting fucked up right now behind the scenes, or the rrat is actually big enough in JP to where she couldnt deal with the harassment and had to step back.
Only reason I could see
you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to think Zaion had anything to do with it

>> No.78100499

>>78100449
>spoiler
eh, I can hope. I know realistically she has no heart and it'd never actually affect her.

>> No.78100538

>>78100449
what harassment

>> No.78100670

>>78099736
I hope to fucking God it's not her suddenly growing a conscience and feeling guilty. Because Sayu is naive enough to let the backstabbing cunt back into her life, even after everything Kotoka said and did, she's said as much on stream. I don't want to see the parable of the frog and scorpion play out in real time.

>> No.78100676

>>78100499
Fact is it'been a very lontime time since it's happened anon, if it didnt hurt her before it wont hurt her now
>>78100538
The mel rrat had much bigger traction on japanese twitter and imageboards like 2 and 5chan. Alot of nips were making a scene about it.

>> No.78100750

>>78100670
I want Sayu to be reunited with her friends.

>> No.78100789

>>78100750
me too anon but I have a hard time believing Kotoka could be a friend after that little hit piece she pulled, followed by no attempts whatsoever to repair anything.
Instead she just kept talking as if she was the good girl in the branch who wanted to keep Zaion alive during her stream for saviorfag points despite being part of the reason she was harassed in the first place.

>> No.78100825

>"haha that snake probably ratted out Mel"
>AAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEE *goes into hiding for 4 months and counting*

>> No.78100831

>>78100789
>followed by no attempts whatsoever to repair anything
I've heard tell that she sang a very different tune in a membership stream but I'm not the one to say for sure.

>> No.78100925

>>78100831
It doesn't matter what she said to her members when Sayu herself was still broken up about it during that stupid watchalong she did a few weeks ago. She's made no attempts to repair anything with her, nor has she ever gone out of her way to stop the harassment.
It's honestly hard to tell who the bigger slimeball was between her and Hex.

>> No.78100965

>>78100825
Hit the nail in the head. At this point is certain that this retard ratted on Mel.

>> No.78100988

>>78100676
>The mel rrat had much bigger traction on japanese twitter and imageboards
interesting, I thought it was an only /here/thing

>> No.78101024

>>78100750
Kotoka was no friend, and neither were any of the indies who ghosted her for that matter.

>> No.78101028

>>78100988
We didn't come up with it. It was a rrat that started on 2ch.

>> No.78101039

>>78099556
Yeah she's not coming back.

>> No.78101132

>>78099556
Too busy killing vampires with the Belmonts to stream

>> No.78101351

>>78099556
Rrat incoming:
>she talked with mel via company phone.
>mel spills something she thoughts was private.
>company has acces to company phone.
>company gleefully spills the beans to holo.
>Holo: yo mel wtf. im sry but your out.
>Kotoka> yo niji wtf, im out.

>> No.78101350

>>78100925
Honestly her, Hex, Finana and Quinn are all awful people on a fundamental level. So it's really a pick your poison situation.

>> No.78101599

>>78101351
we lost a traitorous homocollaber and they lost a money maker, win win

>> No.78101631

>>78101599
go away unicorn.

>> No.78101895
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I have been happy every day since I met Mikochi!

FubuMiko guerilla Panicore collab in half an hour! https://youtu.be/8c72Mnqc8Hk

>> No.78102114

>>78101351
The timing lines up with it being the Dodger's collab since Mel was fired like 2 months after Ohtani joined the Dodgers, and that's the level of collab I think it would need to be for Mel to be fired over it.
The other evidence is that Kotoka is on the NBA merch collab despite her not being active.
The whole NBA thing seems to be a direct response to the Dodger's collab, to the point where even if it wasn't Kotoka, someone definitely let niji know about it. Hololive even seemed to know it was a direct response to their Dodger's collab since they moved up the announcement of the Dodger's collab after Niji announced their NBA collab to Gura's surprise.

>> No.78103117

>>78099556
It's natural for vermin to hide.

>> No.78103156

After seeing the hasty NBA collab and then the much bigger Dodger's collab, it seems obvious what Mel leaked to her.

>> No.78103249

kotoka has not provably done anything wrong. rrats here dont mean shit.

>> No.78103287

>>78103249
nijisanji went out of their way to prove every rrat right

>> No.78104129

>>78101024
>neither were any of the indies who ghosted her for that matter
Honestly, if I bended over backwards and put on a blindfold, I could understand Kotoka shitting on Sayu at the time, as it was a disgusting company mandated smear campaign. You could maybe argue their vtuber career as on the line, but it's still incredibly shitty and says a lot about a person's character to go through with it.
Her indie "friends" however, were by far the biggest shit stains in this shit show. Again, if I bended over backwards, I could get them abandoning her over a termination with the retarded laundry list of infractions. Continuing to ghost her after her document would have been shitty on its own. But continuing to ghost even her after the recent Doki situation highlighted how Nijisanji would actively lie to your face to make themselves look better and make a person look as shitty as possible to potentially deplatform them, and the glaring similarities it had with the Zaion situation, it just makes those indies genuine spineless cunts, to not even offer an apology. Nijis can hide behind the flimsy and pathetic excuse of just doing what their told. What excuse did those indies have?

>> No.78104657

>>78101024
you mean sayu was no friend. they all left her because she's that nasty. wasting all of their effort because she can't work within the limits of a company she applied to. it's no wonder no one was on her side during her sacking.
compare it to selen that was so loved because she genuinely cares for their work. they all sent her support even though she's the one technically at fault. and for some, it meant being not to be able to work with niji again.
one thing i don't get is why the sayutards hate her so much, even associates her with mel's firing.

>> No.78105270

>>78104657
Go actually fuck yourself.
Millie's public tweet defending management against Selen, the three stooges and their black stream actively shitting on Selen, tone deaf suicide jokes from Finana and Hex, and even tone deaf harrassment jokes from that new hire are not Nijisanji loving and supporting her. And Hex is an especially notable one, since I'm pretty sure I read that he was particularly harsh against Sayu's sexual assault joke about a character, because he was a sexual assualt victim. Meanwhile, he's fine making suicide jokes when Doki literally tried to kill herself. Twice.
I get that no one likes you nijisisters, but don't use Doki for your retarded agendas fight with Sayu, and claim she was loved when the major reason people turned on NijiEN was the claims that she was being harrassed within the company. Especially when you cunts were and still are trying to discredit Doki as best as you can.

>> No.78105348

>>78105270
>sayutard
>no reading comprehension
not surprised to be honest. it's why you keep flocking to that nasty bitch.

>> No.78105528

>78104657
>78105348
So how many times are you sisters going to try and pit Sincroknights and Dragoons against each other? Because you've been doing this shit for months without success. Also, Nyfco lost and /NijiEN/ doxxed a child.

>> No.78105572

>>78105270
as for actual response. you keep focusing on the snakes on kurosanji. i specifically mentioned the people who had nothing to do with cliques and niji. the ones who worked with the talents themselves giving support to doki and nothing but contempt for sayu after their firing.
>sister poster
you faggots really need some other safe word when someone doesn't agree with your fantasies.

>> No.78105631

>>78101028
Regardless of where the rrat originated, it just sounds like people would have come to that conclusion either way.

>> No.78105658

>>78104129
They had no excuse whatsoever, the indies that is. I only wish I had a full list of the cowards that abandoned her; the only one I know of is Cy Yu.

>> No.78105852

>>78105348
>Le reading comprehension
I don't like calling people ESL, since everyone's got to start somewhere, but if you're going to try and call me out on reading comprehension, then type with proper fucking grammar. Also, if you had proper reading comprehension you'd realise my issue is more with you claiming Selen was supported in Niji when post-termination they did nothing but try and bring her down, until they realised it was only bringing themselves down.
>>78105572
>i specifically mentioned the people who had nothing to do with cliques and niji
You literally didn't. You can't even read your own post.

>> No.78106153

>>78104129
>What excuse did those indies have?
I'm going to play a devil's advocate here, and I mean straight up Lucifer's advocate here. What if they were looking for a reason to drop her, unrelated to Niji, and Niji was the excuse they found?

>> No.78106296

>>78099630
sippybippy
>>78099585
I hope this backstabbing bitch anhero's.

>> No.78106441

Has anyone from Niji even mentioned her since she went dark? Like, have Meloco or Ver said anything like "I talked to Kotoka the other day. She's doing fine?"

>> No.78106695

>>78106441
Finana did a couple of months ago on members regarding planning for an MV with Maria

>> No.78106785

>>78099556
A B C, It's easy as
1 2 3, as simple as
do re mi, A B C, 1 2 3
baby you and me girl

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>>78099556

>> No.78106979

>>78099556
I'm guessing she must have picked up a 9-5.
What I want to know is what she did exactly to get Mel terminated.
Why couldn't she just have just kept her mouth shut? Who did she blab to?

>> No.78107027

>>78106153
Then that would beg the question of why they would drop her to begin with. Prior to Niji, Sayu had no drama associated with her and was well liked by her peers in the Genshin and 3view circles so I can't see anything that would make people want to ghost her from back then.

>> No.78107255

>>78107027
Sayu is fine with the actual genshin streamers though
It's just the vtubers, who are likely huge fans of nijisanji

>> No.78107520

>>78099736
Nobody wants to work with her after what happened with Meru.

>> No.78107546

>>78100750
Kotoka is absolutely NOT someone you want to keep as a friend

>> No.78107633

>>78107027
>Then that would beg the question of why they would drop her to begin with.
a bunch of catty bitches who'll pretend to be a friend then drop you at the slightest inconvenience? that's the average female behavior, Sayu is an outlier.

>> No.78107656

time flies

>> No.78107672

>>78106441
People know she's fine? She didn't disappear.

>> No.78108068

>>78105658
Onigiri was another one judging by her old VODs.

>> No.78109240

>>78106441
Aia said that kotoka has been playing valo for 11 hours

>> No.78109374

>>78108068
I haven't tried it myself but apparently you get bonked if you bring Sayu up now. indeed, what a nice "friend" you are, onigirien.

>> No.78109434

>>78099556
Mel sends her regards. Hate this bitch.

>> No.78109725

>>78109374
Christ, how many scumfucks are in this godforsaken industry.

>> No.78109997

>>78109240
Playing Riotslop is grounds for a wellness check in and of itself.

>> No.78110010

>>78100449
>or the rrat is actually big enough in JP to where she couldnt deal with the harassment and had to step back.
IIRC part of the harassment she's getting from the JP side has more to do with how she bypassed VTA to get in niji in the first place by applying to EN. Meloco has been getting it too but to a lesser extent.
Also there's no doubt she's been likely marked for doxxing by their own people (not something new by niji standards) which ramped up her stress by the thousands.

>> No.78110016

>>78109725
the vast majority, unfortunately.

>> No.78110114

>>78110016
It fucking sucks man. I actually liked Giri too.

>> No.78110146

>>78110010
>IIRC part of the harassment she's getting from the JP side has more to do with how she bypassed VTA to get in niji in the first place by applying to EN. >Meloco has been getting it too but to a lesser extent.
Any particular reason for this disparity in outrage?

>> No.78110213

>>78109374
She's been collabing with current NijiENs for a while. However, she has also been collabing with ex-Nijis, VSJ, and Holo, so I thought she was a more neutral party.

>> No.78110243

>>78109725
Nice people are fundamentally boring.

>> No.78110248

>>78110114
me too. but acting nice and being a good person are entirely different things.

>> No.78110279

>>78099556
She was getting harassed without any proof by holofags and Sayufags.

>> No.78110316

>>78110279
>Literally just watch her member stream
It's that easy.

>> No.78110341

>>78110114
>>78110248
Now hold up a minute, not being Sayu's friend isn't grounds to anti someone.

>> No.78110402

>>78110341
not being a friend isn't, sure. being a backstabbing bitch and pretending to be a friend beforehand, however? that's plenty enough.

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NijiEN needs to be stopped. All these 6/5 models going to waste. No love lost for the people behind them, except a couple.

>> No.78110530

>>78099556
does she have a second job besides vtubing?

>> No.78110544

>>78110341
I'm not going to support Giri, but I'm not wasting time being an active anti either. I'll just move on and won't bring it up unless asked directly.

>> No.78110751

>>78110530
See >>78109240

>> No.78111774

>>78110213
None of the people who left her can be considered neutral, since you can't erase the fact that they left her to begin with. That's the elephant in the room that they can't ignore if they were to get on friendly terms with her again. They don't want to acknowledge that they were assholes.

>> No.78114202

>>78108068
>>78109374
Any more info on this?

>> No.78114298
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78114298

>>78110530
Sucking cock

>> No.78114355

>>78099556
holozhang deflection thread

>> No.78114373

I love gyarus, but this gyaru pisses me off. I want her to exit vtubing forever, but at the same time, I also want her on my dick.

>> No.78114448

>>78110530
Always been a rrat of mine she is pulling a Dizzy and was a former JP manager turned to talent and Kotoka probably returned to manager duties for now cause Anycolor is too lazy to actually hire new people and just put her back in the seat.

>> No.78114907

>>78114373
I like how in her shaming Sayu video, she brings up being a gyaru like it makes her condemning Zaion more credible

>> No.78115064

>>78114907
If anything it makes it less credible with how Gyaru have a stigma of being massive manipulative cunts.

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>>78115064
or how they form cliques

>> No.78115486

>>78099556
誰?

>> No.78115596

>>78109240
Playing Valorant for 11 hours is a reason to start therapy. Its almost as bad as playing League for 4 hours.

>> No.78115759

>>78099736
She’s sleepin with the fishes Anon. Zaion sent the capos to whack her shortly after the black screen incident. Youse best fuhget about it if ya don’t wanna end up the same way. Capice?

>> No.78116955

>>78115064
But weebs told me gyaru are more honest and loyal than regular jp women...

>> No.78117042

>>78099556
bitch back to being waitress in some run down ramen shop for chump change

>> No.78119096

>>78101631
Kill yourself, nijisister. Go save “da bois” from being axed.

>> No.78120007

>>78100750
Kotoka is not her friend.

>> No.78120419

>>78110010
>how she bypassed VTA to get in niji in the first place by applying to EN
Bypassed the what now

>> No.78120439

>>78099556
sounds like an average gura vacation

>> No.78120458

>>78120419
Anon... you need to do your black company reps...

>> No.78121434

>>78106979
whatever it was it was a big enough secret for Mel to be immediately terminated.
and the rrat is basically this:
Mel talked to kotoka > Mel told kotoka *something* > after they stop she immediately either tells her higher ups, or anonymously blabs to Cover herself, hoping to score brownie points for assassinating one of the Gen 2 talents with a decent following. > Mel gets fired > Mel's PL cuts all ties with Kotoka >Kotoka just vanishes.

>> No.78121562

>>78121434
>Gen 2 talents
Mel was a Gen 1 talent...

>> No.78122273

>>78121562
I fucking knew it, but I second guessed myself.

>> No.78122364

>>78121434
>score brownie points for assassinating one of the Gen 2 talents with a decent following
Even if whatever happened with Kotoka is the thing that got Mel firedI doubt it was intentional.

>> No.78122488

>>78122364
NTA, but we won't know. Kotoka's image was soured to anyone who pays attention by the black stream relating to Zaion. Nobody would put this past her, but it being an accident is technically possible.

>> No.78123198

>>78120419
basically the v-tuber 'school' that nijisanji ran. you get taught basic v-tuber stuff and, more importantly, niji gets you to do work for free since you're an intern

>> No.78123277

>Kotoka bragged about going out drinking and possible drug use with Luca, even before debuting
>after debuting essentially throws herself at Luca and involves Luca in everything she does
>btw he was her oshi, along with some male JP's
>Luca chooses Meloco instead, and buys Meloco expensive jewelry in Japan
>Kotoka suddenly vanishes and never wants to stream again

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>>78123277

>> No.78125764

>>78099556
who

>> No.78126919

>>78108068
What stream?

>> No.78128015

>>78123277
Meloco must be hotter irl.

>> No.78132045

>>78128015
Its the accent, also japanese women are surprisingly eloquent even with a dick in their mouth.

>> No.78135518

>>78099556
That's like a third of a year. What the fuck happened?
Never mind I don't care. The less females in Nijisanji the better.

>> No.78136414

>>78101028
it wouldn't have picked up so much steam if she hadn't put out that announcement saying she didn't have anything to do with the mel thing

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Soon™

>> No.78139789

>>78136799
Finana will probably the one sinking along the yacht.

>> No.78140004

>>78115759
Eeeyyy gimme summa dat gabagool.

>> No.78143324

>>78099556
guilty for fucking mel over under managements orders

>> No.78143693

>>78143324
I somehow don't buy the concept of reprehensible subhumans suddenly gaining a conscience

>> No.78143741

>>78099556
She will peak with her NBA merch!!

>> No.78151046

>>78143741
Her reward for killing Mel

>> No.78153119

>>78099790
>>78100825
>>78100965
>>78109434
>>78106979
>>78121434
>>78143324
>>78151046
The "Kotoka ratted out Mel" rrat is based on tenuous circumstances at best and no hard (or soft for that matter) evidence exists. The two facts are: Kotoka collabed with Mel a week before she was fired, and Mel's PL unfollowed Kotoka. And for the second "fact" there aren't even receipts that Mel unfollowed Kotoka during that time in the first place.
This is a rrat that grew legs and began to run without any support, other than that people don't like Kotoka for what she said about Sayu.

It's wild how willing people are to believe things because they fit their preconceived notions and then persecute others based on that.

>> No.78153762

>>78153119
It's a good rrat. Kotoka acknowledging it after realizing that she's been caught and taking a long break after, if she actually did it, is kino. It's easily one of the best explanations and the most interesting.

>> No.78153890

>>78100162
By God there better be a penis under that skirt

>> No.78157354

>>78099556
RIP, probably going to graduate but the pipeline was full so they put it on the shelf.

>> No.78159606

>>78100789
>followed by no attempts whatsoever to repair anything
no PUBLIC attempts, anyway. Sayu and Kotoka both know that any public interaction between them will get Kotoka fired; and since Kotoka lives in Japan, Anycolor could also sue her for slander and/or defamation.
Note that I did not say Anycolor could win such a lawsuit.

>> No.78159745

>>78159606
Anon, she's said flat out that she's still hurt by Kotoka as recently as a few weeks ago.
She's had plenty of time.

>> No.78163015

>>78159606
it would be funny to see anycolor lose another easy case though

>> No.78166982

>>78153762
She acknowledged it because people wouldn't stop spamming it.

>> No.78167282

>>78100789
>>78101024
>>78107546
>>78120007
Sayu is a grown up woman if she forgives Kotoka I will accept it and give her a chance.
Kotoka can't do ANY public statement under the risk of getting a wave of fucking sisters tearing her apart and getting fired. Sayu her self gave her the benefit of the doubt by being very new to content creation and being ESL.
The rotten fish is who lied and backstabbed the worst during Zaions debacle and even then if she went indie and Sayu forgave her, I would give her a chance too.
As with Doki, it's their feelings what matter, people like us that only have a surface level knowledge of the matter and peoples feelings should abide to their decisions.

>> No.78167283

>>78166982
>She acknowledged it
There. End of story.

>> No.78167492

>>78167282
I don't want to get angry if the person I'm allegedly defending isn't.
If they say to drop it, I'll drop it. Doesn't mean I can ever go back to the way things were, but I won't be aggressive.

>> No.78167635

>>78101895
Cute lost anon

>> No.78172170

>>78099556
GRIM

>> No.78172360

>>78166982
She has the rep of a Hololive killer and since she came from the EN side of the company that openly slandered an ex niji and got caught for it. She's done with vtubing.

>> No.78172478

I think those are still rookies compared to Niji JP. Don't they have one that hasn't streamed in over 2 years?

>> No.78173099

>>78172478
roa and her fake accent bullshit

>> No.78173642

>>78172478
Oh there are plenty.
I remember that librarian chick that streamed once and then gone for 3 years.
She's still listed as active niji liver though, at least when I checked last year.

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