/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>WHY NO EU IN THE WORLD TOUR
READ YOU STUPID FUCKS
READ
You are not considered Hololive audience past present and future in the slightest, you are not welcome here

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[Anonymous No.]

who are you quoting?

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>>77644521
stfu and kys retard faggot. fucking scumbag

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644632
The entire of the non existing Hololive EU fanbase

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>>77644521
"Other"
I'm sorry, Yuros...
They didn't need to do you dirty like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644690
euseethe

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>>77644705
>The entire of the non existing Hololive EU fanbase
Kek. Those Frenchie frogs really thought making bootleg manga was enough to be considered consumers of japanese products I guess.

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>>77644521
meh, I realized a while ago that hololive doesnt really offer anything special. Indies and small corpos even stream more

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>>77646987
A literal frog huffing copium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
SEAchads, we did it! We are richer and more developed culturally than European Union!
Now, if you excuse me, I have to defend my banana plantation from tigers hunting for starving children

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>>77647168
Rare botanicals, exotic animals, and abundant labor? What's not to love?

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>>77646743
Same as those latinos. They think the popularity of Dragon Ball is enough for them to deserve an HoloES.

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>>77647094
What do they offer that others dont? Other than breaks every other week for "homework"

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>>77644521
They are expanding in other regions after Cover USA is established. Coming soon.

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>>77646987
according to OP image they are gonna stream less and less in the future to focus on expanding their IP through live events and collabs apperance, you will buy a lot of merchandise and tickets but watch less streams, the more popular an holo become the more she is going to be slaved in the background for events, at this point is very clear that it's management itself demanding gura to not stream so she can spend more time on being their mascot

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>>77644521
you'd think they would expand more in a continent with fuck ton of disposable income

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>>77647778
these are basically logistic and merch distribution centers

[Anonymous No.]

>>77646987
Even eurocopium is second rate, kek

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>>77644521
Can you not wait?

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>>77647854
That too.
What's the use of expanding in EU when that isn't even established?

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>>77647956
who the fuck is gonna buy hololive overpriced plastic garbage if there is no building up of a real fanbase first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77647854
>build our own distribution centers
Gosh, if only something like that already existed that they could just use instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77647789
>according to OP image they are gonna stream less and less in the future
Expanding in other areas, does not mean reducing streaming. That's pretty stupid to conclude with that. Especially when it's not happening.

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>>77647854
How will they promote that merch if not though events?

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>>77648051
EU is too cucked for chuubas

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>>77648051
Yea, no one wants to buy holo merch, lol
hurr durr

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>>77648051
Stop thinking like Nijisanji. Build support first, retardo.

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>>77647845
Yeah Hololive concert in Saudi Arabia when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77647845
>believing fake charts
EU doesn't have disposable income lol

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>>77648701
That's just economic journalists making contents to fulfill their monthly article quota. They took raw data of GDP and stuff and convert it to "disposable income". In reality things are much more complicated. Middle class in Shanghai maybe could live more comfortably than middle class in Berlin.

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>>77644521
Frog here, and I've long accepted that that will be the case until we get HoloEU (which is nowhere in sight in near future at least). It just makes more sense to hire either Asia or NA girls at the moment (since the two regions' timezones tend to be roughly 10-12 hrs apart and allow viewers to double dip at times)
Maybe one day EU chuubas can be big enough to convince Cover that a VTuber can survive without the Asian / NA audience, but it's not that day yet; Alternatively, if Hololive / Cover's growth in NA & Asia markets starts to stagnate / slow down, but again, it's not happening anytime soon

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>>77648097
Huh? Do you not know how distribution works or something?

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>>77648967
Middle class doesn't even exist in EU. Everyone there is poor and all the businesses are owned by Americans, Chinese and Indians.

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>>77649016
Many of the largest vtubers not in Holo are Euros though

[Anonymous No.]

>shitskins actually think paying for anime merch while living in mudhuts is actually a good thing

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>>77649247
Nta, but if you refer those that stream on twitch you also have the phenomenon that most of their income often comes from NA not EU viewers. Especially if their primary income is from any tip kind of thing.

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>>77649016
Anon, you can still stream at US hours while being watchable at EU ones, especially for west coast, it's just not prime time

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>>77648701
that's an amazing cope

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>>77649465
That's fine considering they stream in English. The problem is they abandoned a whole major timeslot that gets much activity everywhere else.

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>>77649759
USA has been the biggest source of income for hololive ever since EN debuted while EU has never even made up 1% of it.

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>>77646743

[Anonymous No.]

The holo shop doesn't ship to anywhere in europe so despite my 21 merch set purchases, they were all shipped to a forwarding service. they don't have data on how much merch yuros buy for that reason, it looks like a domestic sale to them. inb4 geekjack

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>>77650020
>ship to nz
>doesn't ship to aussie land
this is silly

[Anonymous No.]

>>77648160
Anon it happened with almost every single holoEn

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>>77644521
>Why no EU
EU hates vtubers. They are warming up but the supa revenue stream shows that they are not worth risking, for now. If Holofags wont show up during the Japan expo, FUCK YOU ALL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>77649853
>provide no content in place
>place does not buy content
Whoa how could this have happened

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>>77650247
Anon, HoloEN has more streaming hours now than ever.

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>>77650276
>EU hates vtubers
I just don't watch Hololive but i love vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I'd say most big EU vtubers, if they even exist, have NA and SEA audience. Anime is not popular in Europe.

[Anonymous No.]

>Anime is not popular in Europe

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kek hurt his feelings

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>>77650429
it's true you stupid kraut

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>>77650313
Of course they do, with advent they have increased the number of members by 50%. Doesn't change the original claim that each individual member has cut down on streaming a fuck ton.

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>>77650368
Don't talk about things you know fuck all about

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>>77650276
>If Holofags wont show up during the Japan expo, FUCK YOU ALL!
>going to france
>going to p*ris
at least it's not in the middle of the olympics

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>>77650308
USA was already responsible for like 10% of hololive's income before holoEN. You need to pay first if you want content, stupid europoor.

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>>77647845
This image must be old, nobody really has disposable income anymore, everyone is on credit and borrowing power now, and soon everything will crash when everyone cant/refuse to pay.

[Anonymous No.]

Yuropoors on suicide watch.>>77644521 OP hurting the yuropoors fefees

[Anonymous No.]

kek shitskins actually think they have any spending power compard to the white man

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>>77650840
Stop pulling numbers outta your ass dumb americlap.

[Anonymous No.]

>The average salary in Jakarta is IDR 104M per year, or just under USD $7,000.

that's $4k less than what someone gets for not working at all here in germany

[Anonymous No.]

>>77651257
but cost of living is like drastically lower in Jakarta compared to Berlin

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>>77650691
Hololive encourages their talents to take breaks, way before HoloEN. Caring about the talents' well-being is why Hololive is successful. As Mumei has said, she'd have left them if that weren't the case.
JP has so many talents that it's less noticeable when they do. After HoloEN4, we'll be in the same boat.

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>>77650276
>If Holofags wont show up during the Japan expo, FUCK YOU ALL!
>line up is 3 of the worst offenders of homo collabs and homos
yea nah, I'm good senpai.

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>>77651118
europoor support is the same level you'd get from the bugs and whenever you ask why all you get are excuses

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>>77650007
that's why hololive doesn't care about eu. they're too dumb to pirate manga and have no money left to give to the girls.

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>>77651345
Yeah but for a foreign company trying to do business there it's irrelevant

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>>77651345
the average working man in Jakarta can’t afford the things someone living on welfare here in germany can

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>>77649128
>all the businesses are owned by Americans
*jews
Verification not required.

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>>77652082
I'm not sure how a german spending all their money on scat porn helps v-tubers though

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>>77652082
Right, but how much more likely is the average working man in Jakarta to be a Holofan? And even if he is, who's more likely to support their oshi monetarily?

[Anonymous No.]

>us citizens itt pretending their muttoid compilation of mcmansions in between gas stations and billboards somehow qualifies as a first world country, because they have somehow gotten the impression that being a gullible consoomer is a sign of wealth

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>>77652243
Hololive just needs to enter the niche and they'll make the big bucks.

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>>77651345
why would you live in the shithole known as berlin

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>>77652478
Cope harder, europoor. Cover's financial reports showed that american fans spend the most per capita and are therefore the most valuable fans. EU spends less than SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEU would be HoloEN that streams in EU hours
HoloFR would unironically sell like hotcakes if you present it like ID

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>>77652660
>they have somehow gotten the impression that being a gullible consoomer is a sign of wealth

[Anonymous No.]

Why do americlaps seethe over eurochads so much in these threads?

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>>77652749
Why does Cover ignore your pathetic existence if you're so wealthy?

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>>77647309
Nah, it's because WACTOR actually tried once to make it work in LATAM and it set a precedent that it is feasible, barely but still... also because Hololive keeps searching for ways to expand but their current strat being exclusively JP-EN-ID is fine, last time they rushed something out it didn't become a massive success (HolostarsEN) and the only reason it is OK right now it's because the competitor's branch literally imploded like WACTOR.

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>>77652478
You know, being a "gullible consoomer" as you put it may well be the preferred option here. Merch expenses subsidize concerts near you, after all, and how much would it cost you to go to one that isn't?

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>>77651969
Burger education is still evolving i the right direction i see

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>>77644521
>Cover cares more about the SEAnigger audience than Euros
grim

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>>77644521
Impiccati filippino di merda

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>>77652887
because we're not gullible consoomers that tip robbers out of reflex
again
>they have somehow gotten the impression that being a gullible consoomer is a sign of wealth

[Anonymous No.]

I'm more of a fan than anyone on this board dobeit. Exclusively watch JP vtubers, I buy merch and membership. If I dislike the new content of a vtuber I drop her and move on without throwing a shitfit. I am literally the ideal, perfect fan. All while being a yuropoor.

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>>77653454
>Burger education
It's SEA. Pinoys and such.

[Anonymous No.]

yuropoors crying and pissing all over the thread

KEKAROO

[Anonymous No.]

>Doesn't deliver goods to EU
>WHY EUROS DOESN'T SPEND MONEY ON HOLOLIVE?
Their faults
>>77644521
Explain pic then op

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>>77648701
What and fucking indonsia does lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>77650685
Anime and Manga especially have historically been way more popular with the common people in Europe than in America.
It's literally just vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

The people at Hololive know way more than you guys.

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>>77644521
North America and Asia is where the money is, moron.

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>>77646987
Nope. EU literally just have fewer weebs. They have tons of fleshtubers/le alpha/e-thots getting tons of views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77654068
>and Asia
bro thinks he's on the team
Unless you're Japan, parts of china or singapore, gtfo.

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>>77654068
>Asia
LMAO

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>>77654098
>>77646743
Then you need to think about the fact that the other countries in yurop also consume weeaboo media.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there even any European vtubers that speak exclusively in their native language? Every one I've come across speaks almost exclusively in English and panders mostly to an NA audience. I do hope there's eventually a HoloEU though, I've found some that I feel aren't too edgy crude that could fit in Hololive but I wonder if any of them are even applying to Hololive in the first place.

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>>77654273
Speaking in her own euro language would just mean limiting the amount of people watching for no reason considering the entire younger demographic of Europe (who would be the ones watching) speak and understand English. Why be a norwegian vtuber speaking Norwegian when the entire country has less people living there than any US state.

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>>77654273
>Are there even any European vtubers that speak exclusively in their native language
Yes, obviously? A lot, even. You can find them pretty easily.
Like last year for example I found some weeaboo ass twin vtubers that exclusively stream in German.

[Anonymous No.]

>load holodex
>i can chose between dozens of chuuba starting 5PM CEST
>only holos in sight at that time are kiara and ending HoloID or sleep deprived HoloJP

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>>77654360
pfostier sofort doitsche fuwermoko oder es knallt

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>>77654098
Euros are just cheap as fuck. Trying to appeal to them is like appealing to Latinos, except they don't even have a large consumer base due to 50 000 languages.

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>>77654461

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>>77654512
>post chuuba with an inner circle of groomers so she stream starting almost midnight from the netherlands
>why her EU numbers dropped?
She also goes to sleep at 7AM and sleep the entire morning because she lives on her groomers schedule.

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>>77654461
Alter ich erinnere mich doch nicht an ihren Namen.
Ich weiss nur noch dass sie ne autistische Fixierung mit Kingdom Hearts hatten und KH3 hassten.
Und sie haben glaub ich Evil Within gespielt oder so.

[Anonymous No.]

Yet another thread of americans acting like /int/ rejects.

[Anonymous No.]

We don't have a tonne of asians like north america. Makes total sense that way less people give a fuck about weeb shit.

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>>77644521
kiara was a mistake that caused hololive more harm than good

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>>77654461
die taida...

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>>77654340
actually norway has a population of 5.55 million which means as of 2023 estimates only 22 states have higher populations

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>>77647845
Half of top Twitch Vtubers are EU. Small corpos have a ton of EU members. Cover probably stopped trying in EU after Kiara failed and flying to Japan for 3d and shit is harder from Europe.

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>>77648701
>>77648967
Cute 3rd world cope.

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>>77651345
I'm a NEET living in Poland and I have 2k $ PC, two laptops, two smartphones and can afford 2-3 trips to Italy/Spain/Croatia per year.

You have no idea how much money we have. Nobody superchats because nobody tips here. This culture never existed in Europe. Merch is 2x the cost because shipping. Twitch and small corps already offer too many Vtubers in EU hours to keep up. Cover never tried pandering to Europe and pretty much lost the market.

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>>77655029
It's mostly SEA.

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>>77644521
Kraut here, my oshi is jp
i use Tenso to ship my merch to me and will be trying to get some holofes tickets next year while polishing my 日本語

[Anonymous No.]

>thread is full of Euros
fuck i need to go to bed

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>>77644521
They had more EU viewers than NA viewers back at the beginning of 2020, according to viewer figures released by Cover themselves. Them not having an EU audience now is entirely a result of their own decisions over the years.
I'm not going to speculate on why, because who fucking knows what Cover are thinking, but the time slot they ignore is both the most popular for Western streaming overall (Twitch viewership peaks at 9PM CET) and the second most popular market for Japanese media outside of Japan itself, so it's not because there's no market there.

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>>77657083
Yeah it's weird. Outside Holo EU streaming hours are extremely popular. Maybe it's just logistics of flying people from Europe.

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>>77654642
>groomed by non-Euros
I wonder why...

[Anonymous No.]

>>77654011
>just vtubers
no holo for europoors then

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>>77657175
I forgot to mention the two largest Japan-themed conventions outside of Japan are also in Europe (Japan Expo and Dokomi). So, they've got
>More stream watchers
>More weebs
>More weeb convention attendees
>1/64 members with regular streaming hours that are at all watchable
I wonder which of these might cause a lack of interest

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>>77657645
The problem is as people already said, that euros don't SC and shipping to Europe is expensive so less people buy merch too.

[Anonymous No.]

Euro and Latinos should stop watching hololive after this. They don't even consider you as human beings. Even Indonesian and pag pag men from flip land made it before you. Any Latino and euro who decides to linger about are nothing but cucks.

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>>77657726
They still ship everything straight from Japan, and shipping from Japan to Europe is cheaper than Japan to the US. The difference is taxes.

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>>77657645
>I wonder which of these might cause a lack of interest
Lack of superchats?

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody cares.
Look at jelly's fat bum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
pipe down latinx

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
Why is the subhuman from SEA allowed to post here?

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>>77657784
The thing their last company report said was of rapidly diminishing importance?
They've put themselves in a really retarded position, they want to pivot to making money mainly from media/merch/events but their short-sighted earlier decisions mean they now have zero presence in the largest market for weeb media/merch/events outside Japan.

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>>77644690
Eurobros...why doesn't anyone love you?

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>>77657784
SC barely matter for Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do SEAs hate Europe so much? I genuinely haven’t seen any other ethnicity seethe this hard about a whole continent
Is it cause they were conquered by anglos back in the day?

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>>77657948
Starscuck cope

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>>77657175
EU prime time hours are like the middle of night in Japan. And higher ups aren't exactly comfortable with letting people do what they want outside of their watch. Furthermore EN meetings are at noon/afternoon JST, which is very late in American hours, so EN talents need to stay up late to attend those meetings

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>>77657976
And early afternoon for the US

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>>77657954
>Is it cause they were conquered by anglos back in the day?
Yes

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>>77657954
they're scared that once the first world embraces vtubing it's over for them

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>>77657884
That's China not EU. Another market they abandoned.

But honestly they probably don't care Cover is still doing great and expanding. It could bite them in the ass in the future but with main competition being Niji that keeps fucking up 10x worse they are probably safe.

Also Vshojo and other smaller groups are taking advantage of this and competition is always good.

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>>77657954
Go check what the Dutch and French have done to the Seamonkeys, it's quite funny.

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>>77657954
they are brown
seething about whites is part of their basic education

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>>77657849
I present a counter bum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77655836
Towa if woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658029
>>77658061

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>>77655836
she stopped vtubing

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>>77657976
They have 24/7 chat mods, and if they need an actual talent manager to babysit people 24/7 (despite this never being an issue for JP) they could just hire one person in NA to do it
We're really years past any of the excuses for this making any sense, you can only assume someone relatively senior in Cover is unironically seething at the French or something because nothing else makes any sense for a business with a basic level of competence

[Anonymous No.]

vtubers are not popular in europe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77657954
Because EU has the highest standard of living while SEA has one of the worst.

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>>77657948
Wasn't it like 25% of revenue? 25% is massive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658215
Twitch has the best numbers in EU time.

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>>77657954
all I see are europoors seething that they don't get a concert tho

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>>77658228
Years ago it's below 10% now.

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>>77653723
Panko, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658215
Go say that to Watamates and Nousagis, fucktards. EU not caring about ENwhores is the proper answer.

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>>77658215
Is that why like half of the big indies are Euros and every other corpo has Euro talents?

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>>77658367
Technically HoloEN also has an EU talent. It's just that... Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658367
Why does Shylily speak in english and not kraut then? Because she's pandering to NA

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658367
the obvious answer is that none of the EU vtubers are talented enough for HoloEN

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>>77653963
No but Indonesians have zero sense of self-preservation, they will throw every last penny they have on vtubers without a second thought.

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>>77658421
Because every person in the vtuber watching demographic (younger people who use the internet and watch a lot of foreign media) speaks English
That's literally why people keep saying holoEN ignoring the region is retarded, people there wanted streams in English (I am using the past tense because all of those people left out of frustration years ago so the remaining euro hololive viewerbase are all turbo-weebs who watch streams in Japanese)

[Anonymous No.]

>speaking english means you're pandering to ME
Why are burgercucks like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77656338
>Nobody superchats because nobody tips here.
This is 100% the real reason and it's frustrating that so many people ITT are coming up with absolute bullshit headcanons when this is the real reason. The average european will not bat an eye spending 200€ on dinner but will think themselves generous for tipping the waiter 2€.

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>>77658215
objectively false

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>>77653795
What is wealth then? Because I guarantee you the US has the EU beat in every single metric you can imagine.

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>>77658421
90% of young people with internet access can understand English. It has shit to do with NA. Brits made it a global language.

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>>77658421
you speak english because its the only language you know
we speak english because its the only language YOU know

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>>77654642
Groomer Chad here. Sorry for ruining Roca for you, faggot. Maybe try to git gud next time

>>77654512
Most of her highest paying paypigs were Eurochads during her donathon so much so that her stream became the highest earning donathon in her corpo. But of course, you're a clipwatcher amerifat

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>>77654642
Maybe if euros actually supported the talents she wouldn't have to fuck her entire schedule up?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand why eucucks bring up indies and small corpos? We are talking about hololive. They don't even have en "eu" branch so why would they do a concert in europe.

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>>77658717
Rename it to hololive California then
Most of Europe speaks english

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>>77658421
what are you retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658717
Probably to observe that it is actually a popular market outside of hololive, since people always apply this retarded circular reason where Cover shouldn't try to appeal to Europe because they are not popular there (because they don't try to appeal to it)

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>>77658610
It doesn't make much sense when Japan also doesn't have a tipping culture. I am inclined to think it is because unlike Japan, a major part of modern European society is letting America live in their heads rent-free, so they sub/consciously refuse to engage in any culture they consider similar to tipping specifically to spite American norms.

[Anonymous No.]

Even EU talents outside of hololive further slide their schedules to match NA prime, example being the Dutch idol chuuba

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>>77658610
That's because people understand that the staff are actually being paid properly though. Funnily enough this also applies to modern hololive, they make so much money from elsewhere that Suisei recently turned superchats off because she thought people were wasting their money on them

[Anonymous No.]

I chiefly watch indie vtubers these days, so it's no big loss to me. Hololive and the other big companies, while good, can seem a bit too manufactured at this point. Understandable though, they're now a massive brand.

[Anonymous No.]

It is how it is. Why would they multiply their workload to account for the diversity of language and cultures we have in the EU when they could opt for a single sweep along the Anglosphere.

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>>77644521
Yeah I don't get the entire seethe over it.
I would never give money to a woman online, especially one hiding behind virtual avatar. I'll keep watching with adblock and never donate or buy membership.
They know most euros do that that's why they won't come over here.

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>>77658646
Just because you pay the most for shit doesn't mean you are wealthy. You are being scammed, all day long. Your houses are paper and wood constructions. Your medical care and equipment is overpriced. Your medical drugs are designed and distributed to make you sicker and addicted. Metamizole is banned in the us, due to possible allergic reactions. Metamizole is also the strongest non-steroid analgetic on the market. It doesn't get you addicted.
Your pharma overlords would prefer to feed you poison while your government watches in glee ever since they legalized advertizing medical drugs. Your "wealth" is built on a prison-industrial complex that provides what is basically slave labor to the military industrial complex, which thrives off your alphabet agency starting trouble in 3rd world countries, so your military industrial complex can sell weapons to whoever needs them.

You are poor. In body and mind and most of all you are in debt. Want an education? Debt. Got injured (every nigger has a gun)? Ambulance? Hospital??? Debt. You poor fucks can't even buy any of your papermache houses.

You have been conditioned to pay a lot of money for the lowest quality products. Cover loves that, just like any other company.

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>>77659026
I mean the UK and Ireland alone have 70 million people. I mean it's not much compared to Indonesia but it's not exactly a small amount either. Surely they can afford to have one more member pandering to UK hours

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>>77658882
>That's because people understand that the staff are actually being paid properly though
Their baseline pay compared to average expenses are sometimes worse than in the US though, especially since most waiters will have to live near touristy areas because that's where most restaurants are, and that's not even mentioned all the waiters working without contracts for less than minimum wage. When's the last time you saw your average waiter be able to pay for a month's worth of food let alone be able to rent their own place?

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>>77659069
The average american can pay for all that and still have more money than an european.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659278
>an european
ESL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77650853
Nah, there’s still plenty of money being burned every day.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's an important lesson for EUfriends:
You are not the target audience for Cover and that's fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659427
no he's right, the a/an rule is based on how you pronounce the word and European makes an yu sound at the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659278
Your boss calls you on your day of. You have "limited sick days". You barely get any days off as is. You can barely afford travelling outside of the us to finally see how wrong you are. You are brainwashed into thinking your way of living is the pinnacle. You grew up in a cult and dont even realize it.
You are not wealthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659486
I unironically see dudes blow through all their leftover money on funko pops or some other equally dumb shit and then complain that they're living paycheck to paycheck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659617
esl

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
They dont even offer shipping of merch to EU from their official e-commerce sites. How do you expect it to even be listed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659536
People are understandably confused as to why that is, since looking at the streaming and "weeb" markets (anime, manga, and associated merch) logically it should be a big target market for them, especially with them focusing more on goods and events
It's like if McDonalds decided not to go to France in the 1970s because they didn't buy a lot of junk food (a thing some people actually argued at the time) when now it makes them 350 million dollars a year in profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
pajeets and seaniggers, you finally made it! congrats! i'll give you this one, since you're worthless bug-men irl with nothing to live for. enjoy your soulless mass-produced chinese merch while you're eating road kill cooked with gutter oil. you sure are living it large over there

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658421
Theres more people who know how to speak English in Europe than the entire US population

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
desu eu should block hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659671
English is my third language, actually. Im not sure why you think it's an own to tell someone they speak multiple languages. I doubt you can even speak your first language correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659747
gutter oil isn't even a thing in SEA and India, it's a uniquely Chinese phenomena

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659069
Why are you a hololive "fan" if you believe that supporting hololive is a scam?
Hololive is going to become a US centric agency because Americans supoort it the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77647845
>zambia dark green
>not even the richest or most stable sub-saharan country
this is clearly some fucked up shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658822
Japan has a culture of throwing money at idols and gacha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77657976
This is probably the biggest reason and thats why I hope that Covers US office will have managers there too at somepoint that can babysit the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
holy shit Gura is really the money maker of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>77654642
That’s Roca, and she streams during EU primetime and has one of the most normal sleep schedules I’ve seen from a chuuba. You sure you’re not confusing her for someone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661100
Where does it state that, faggot? The only proof regarding that is just her saying her garbage dino plush broke records, but she never showed proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77647845
Europeans in general spend less on trivial shit, and dont seem to have the mercantile, semitic spirit of Americans. What you see is that the capitalist mindset some Europeans have stems from being raised by and on the internet. They have Americanised in a sense. The funkopop collections just extent outward to outer branches, for some this is Marvel capeshit, to others this is Hololive or other vtubers. Its low effort fanaticism. It requires no input of your own, just a wallet.
This mindset hasnt taken hold of Europeans; only the perpetual online freaks.

Its the difference between making entertainment your hobby, and making your hobby your entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77652660
Europoors don't deserved love from chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661100
She's the only normie friendly vtuber and her time in the limelight is slowly fading
She's not like Hatsune Miku who never ages and doesn't have IRL things to do, she's gonna get tired of Hololive and western vtubing will die a slow death

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661449
>western vtubing
no such thing, there is only JP
all else is just streamers that are too ugly to show flesh

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661391
He does though even Kiara was happy to see him lying faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661502
You're just proving my point anon
Idolshit will never work in the west unless its glazed up homos like Kpop boybands or marketable that they're normie slop like Kpop girl groups

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658215
They prefer indie whore chuubas anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658610
>>77656338
Actual retards.
SC is not like tipping service workers. It's like donating to buskers and other artists. Which we do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661449
>She's the only normie friendly vtuber
a take so utterly retarded it has to be a shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>77650134
They have really hostile stance against lolis

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661643
Terminally online weirdos are not normies anon and you don't even need to browse this site to know that
Vtubing is extremely niche and it's unhealthy to ask for new toys every 2 years since there comes a point where you need to look at 1view retards for new talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>77650840
Retard. EU was supporting Holo JP more than US/CA did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77650368
France and Italy are the two weebest countries in the world outside of Japan and Western Taiwan, faggotchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661278
seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659225
There are two types of waiters. You have the students who work parttime, that bring you your drinks and maybe some easy goyslop.
And you have waiters that serve you in actual restaurants.

Students will make minimum wage, and will have a contract - NO ONE works without having a contract. At least not in Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, France, Norway, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, etc.. You know, developed nations.
Servers are people that know more about the food, the wine, the whiskey and etiquette than your average waiter that brings you a beer on a terrace. They will earn more than minimum wage, and also have a contract. NO ONE works without having a contract.

They will all be able to OWN their own place. Only students rent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661781
Kill yourself redditard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662051
Mad amerilard spotted kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661857
not weeb enough for cover lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>77647285
Everything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
>Gura's face shows up in all sub section images for all four categories
Cover low key does worship her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77656338
You can't be a NEET and afford stuff unless you have rich parents but then your situation isn't usable as an example in actual discussion anyway.
Being a freelancer/b2b contractor isn't being a neet. You might be thinking of hikkikomori instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77652660
Why spend on low quality slop?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661857
Europe is currently in a turbulent period to give a shit about vtubing
This is why Philippines is the huge exception in SEA since they're the most online nation yet they never had a vtubing scene because they're dealing with too many IRL stuff for vtubing, the Flips you see here are the literal crazy lunatics that are starved for someone local

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658822
Japan has idol culture
The only time Europe got into spending obscene amounts of money on useless shit was with indulgences and pyramid schemes

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662279
>Europe is too turbulent to give a shit about Vtubing
Based on what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659548
>the a/an rule is based on how you pronounce the word
No one says "an European" in English. Typically an is before a vowel but a "yu" sound will never have an "an" in front of it, spoken or written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658646
>muh GDP
post nose

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661963
At least in 3 of the countries you mentioned where nobody works without a contract I can absolutely guarantee you that plenty of people work without contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662528
Based on el negro forma islam

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662733
You think that is preventing people from consuming Jap media? We can vote, hate mudslimes and watch vtubers at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

Every day a EuroNIGGER seethes is a day the world keeps moving towards a better future. I wish they could just stop existing.


Now if only SEA and South America could suffer the same fate

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662833
Is this the cool new Russian/Chinese/Indian way of doing things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662870
Nah, it's jew.
They hate sea because jews are illegal on indonesia.
And they hate south america because of argentina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662833
t.immigrant pajeet living in the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662833
wait till you find out that europeans built your country from nothing when injuns didn’t even have the wheel

[Anonymous No.]

>>77649016
There will never be a EU based holo branch for the simple reason that labor laws shit all over the hustle culture and potential bans on coworker/manager relationships, things needed to operate such a company reasonably well.

At best you'll see a HoloES branch and an EU warehouse only for distributing merch (maybe).

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663052
>HoloES
you mean HoloMX?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663052
Anon I think Kiara existing presents something of a problem for this argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
EU will be in the world tour 2025.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662833
Most euro nations have a better rail road system and power grids than the us

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663169
Kiara got hired because she was living in Japan at that time and she didn't say she was moving back to Europe

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663308
OK but she lives there now, meaning they are already complying with whatever laws you're imagining would be a problem (and you greatly overestimate how complicated it is to hire contractors from Europe as a foreign company, if anything it creates lots of extra paperwork and headaches for the person they hire and not the company)

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661367
>Europeans in general spend less on trivial shit
lol
Europeans pay for merch. While it's not really fair to compare vtubing to sports teams and such, a lot of people buy things that you can consider "trivial" if it's merchandise of the team. Panini albums my beloved

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663169
>>77663390
That only works as long as the talents play ball.

If an EU event happens holo can't legally stop EU based talents from fucking management or each other.

Thank god for remote managers though amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663390
I think the issue is each EU country has very different laws and they differ much more than states' laws. This makes setting up more complex infrastructure a challenge. What's more, Japan doesn't have as much experience dealing with Europe as with US (remember, Japan is effectively US' vassal state, they've been doing business together a lot over past 80 years). To be fair it's not like they deal with all US states either, it's concentrated to California, maybe two or three other states and Canada, that's it.

At least I'm glad they stated they plan to invest into Europe from 2025 onwards, even if it's criminal they haven't done it in EN1 or EN2, not to mention EN3... But yeah Cover's current plan is setting up the branch office in US to make merchandising processes etc. more effective, see how it goes, and then consider expanding to other markets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664046
Japan has actually been busy passing laws to make trade with Europe easier, particularly in digital content/services. They just recently brought in GDPR mirror legislation for example, so now every Japanese company has to comply with exactly the same personal information rules as European ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
>>WHY NO EU IN THE WORLD TOUR
>europoor wont watch or support and asking cover for EU concert
throw money first if you want them giving you concert in EU, stop being like nijisister who bitch but never watch or support

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664190
Could you be any more brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664148
That's promising. Hopefully they'll stop blocking Yahoo.jp in Europe when that fully passes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661781
EU never supported JP. Basically all overseas fans have always been American and the few europoors that existed never bought merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662833
>I wish they could just stop existing.
They literally will soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77663799
Sports ultras is just a tier above vtubing in terms of being niche
Not every sports fan is a superfan weirdo

[Anonymous No.]

>>77661781
EU's contribution was so small it doesn't even show up most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664364
Anon Cover actually released their regional viewer breakdown before EN existed and at the time (early 2020) they had more EU viewers than NA, by a lot. This only changed when they decided the EN branch should exclusively pander to burgers

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664479
and is this statistic in the room with us?
see >>77664457
Brings the statistic if you actually want to use it in an argument not "it totally exists I swear"

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664479
Post it, muhammad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664547
This is a pointless way to attempt to measure things because prior to the Taiwan yab a large portion of "USD" superchats were from mainlanders using a VPN
I'm talking about Cover's 2020 sponsor pitch deck, which literally had their youtube statistics in it and was released by the company themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664591
Are you saying a large portion of EU use USD because they have to use VPN? The fuck is this argument?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664679
No, mainland Chinese anon. When the Taiwan shitshow happened half of JP's USD and NT$ superchats vanished overnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664591
Were you going to link this pitch deck or?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77649853
Have you ever considered that vtuber stuff just may not be that popular in Europe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664741
1. shut up and link the pitch deck
2. Does the Chinese government stops EU citizen from donating? How is it relevant to the conversation at all what the chinese are doing. The fact of the matter is not a single pound of Euro or whatever ya call your currencies show up on the talents superchat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664768
How does that change anything? Obviously vtubers are not popular in europe because europoors lack taste and money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664835
I do not have a link to a PDF from early 2020 to hand and do not consider it worth my time to go looking for it in response to the same retarded arguments that have been made on this board a million times, especially when your example of overseas engagement is fucking Marine, someone who is incomprehensible to anyone who isn't N0 and familiar with decade old internet slang
Yagoo has literally said twice in the last 6 months that they see Europe as a valuable target market so whatever expert business analysis you have conducted clearly doesn't line up with what he's seeing

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
Im a fan from the EU. I think at least part of the reason why we don't buy merch is import taxes. If you purchase anything outside the EU, you have to pay import taxes. In my country it's around 23 - 36 usd for smaller things. I like to buy clothes from japan, and have had to pay like 160 usd in import taxes once... It's just so damn expensive, so I only buy holo merch if it's something I really really like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665128
I mean aren't tariffs a thing everywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665052
1. Make up some statistic
2. Says you too lazy to find it
3. Euro aren't donating because mainland chinese
4. Profit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665159
I haven't paid a penny of tax or duty on any hololive merch in the UK. I'm actually not sure if that's correct, but it was all declared as goods with the correct price on the customs paperwork so I would have thought they'd start demanding money from me by now if I was supposed to be paying any

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665128
The only thing you save on is shipping due to higher product volumes from asia to EU, you still pay the same import tax and VAT, it's just included instead of tacked on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665128
That's exactly how much I paid in import taxes for buying an anime DVD box set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665052
>source: my ass
kek
>Yagoo has literally said twice in the last 6 months that they see Europe as a valuable target market so whatever expert business analysis you have conducted clearly doesn't line up with what he's seeing
Corpos will say anything is a "target market". Back in reality, Cover hasn't bothered to actually target the market so its clearly not a big priority for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665128
SEA also have import tax, I just bought a 2300 yen merch from Holo with a 2400 shipping fee and a 10% tax of both combined (740 yen)
And your average income is literally 10 times of ours. That excuse doesn't hold up mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665159
I dont know actually. can any US fan answer if they had to pay import taxes when buying holo merch? I once bought a single keychain, and had to pay more than what it cost + shipping in import taxes... Does this happen to US fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77664835
Still SC coping when those are becoming more irrelevant every year. And how do you measure it anyways? Most of the time SCs are from the same 20 paypigs that send SCs in every stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665199
>>77665296 (me)
Holy shit you fuckers have no excuses lmao.
It ended up to about 1/4 of my monthly salary in total but I'll spend it for my oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

Chilean here, i don't give a fuck, i'm becoming wealthy enough to go to the US (Free Visa, seethe burgers) and stay there. Imagine trying to invite Cover to the hell known as South America.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665177
>>77665247
It was discussed at length at the time on /jp/, since it was supposed to be a confidential document with limited circulation that their retarded PR company made available to anyone who typed in an email address
The thing about expanding to Europe (in 2024-25) was literally in their investor relations documents, where they can't legally promise to do things if they don't actually intend to do them

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665229
>>77665241
>>77665296
ok my bad anons. I didnt know. guess we need to step up our game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665322
SC is used because you guys don't buy holomerch either..... crying about import tax or whatever, while the brown people from SEA are doing it in mass with the same import tax and shipping fee and much smaller income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665322
SCs made up the largest revenue stream for Hololive until 2023, which is notably well after the "EU totally supported more then NA before HoloEN" period. If you have a better way to quantify EU's support that has a source attached, please provide it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665199
Your package has to be randomly searched and the monetary value of the package has to exceed some arbitrary amount before customs put in any effort.

Where I live the limit before VAT applies is €100 after shipping fees, but it used to be €200.

It's been really hit and miss if customs end up demanding tax though, I've managed to skirt alcohol tax and VAT several times with orders above $500 but once I got caught importing a brand outfit for $110 after shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Paris Japan Expo invited NIJISANJI EN two years in a row (the latest one had Vox being late to his own show) instead of hololive. No wonder why hololive thinks that you fags are not worth the investment when your taste in chuubas are that shitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665675
Sale bâtard, tu sais même pas comment la JapanExpo fonctionne.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665402
Cool, are you going to provide anything besides trust me bro?
>where they can't legally promise to do things if they don't actually intend to do them
I hope you have something more specific then Picrel because that's not legally binding or indicative at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665675
but Hololive is in Paris Japan expo this year so what's your point exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665709

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665754
i said it's too late that you cry for not getting a concert now when for TWO years you treated hololive like they don't exist. That's also true for dokomi btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665739
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665838
People treated them like they didn't exist because they didn't. They had no primetime streams and no direct merch shipping so you literally couldn't watch them or give them money if you wanted to

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
Considering Ado booked a 7k venue in LA and a 15k venue in Brussels, I would say this stance is pretty fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665951
but that's also true for niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665956
why are you comparing a singer with hundreds of millions of plays on spotify and the singer for a one piece movie to hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

France is probably the biggest consumers of anime and anime merch in the world.
EU has bigger Vtubers than the whole SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77666078
One piece is big in EU, like you have no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you fags arguing when they say they are gonna expand culturally (whatever that means) towards EU starting from 2025. There is gonna be a meet and greet in paris this year too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77666017
All we know is Kiara said hololive didn't go to Japan Expo before because Cover wanted the con to pay for their travel expenses and they weren't willing to. That's not particularly surprising when you know Japan Expo didn't allow vtubers at all in prior years because they saw them as not professional enough (it is a relatively serious convention about Japanese culture in general, not just anime)
It is entirely possible Niji went there for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>77666201
then Japan Expo bended their knee this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665956
last month a One Piece megastore opened in my euro shithole and people started getting in line 24 hours before opening with tents and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
OP you imbecile. They have no store in the EU. Of course merch are gonna be lower in the EU you flipping moron.

[Anonymous No.]

There isn't a single seanigger in hololive english yet they keep scheduling dates there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77666256
We have no idea, Cover might have decided they'd pay their own way there this time since they have apparently made plans to start caring about Europe now. I don't see why the con would pay them to show up, none of the other big exhibitors get paid to be there

[Anonymous No.]

>>77662785
Islam is right about women

[Anonymous No.]

>>77666337
>IRyS
>Shiori
>Biboo

[Anonymous No.]

>>77659069
Europeans are wasting time typing up all this shit instead of supporting Hololive events lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>77654273
Yes, but most are literal whos who can mostly only be found by searching VTubers in their respective language or if you live in said country and search for VTubers.
I remember someone mentioning that there's, for example, a big Brazilian VTuber agency.
I did not fucking know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77658038
True

[Anonymous No.]

>>77657948
>>77658228
>>77658280
Yeah, they basically make bank with merch. Which is the dream for almost every entertainment startup. And they reached it through countess sacrifices.
This is also why a gorillion non-Holos SEETHE at some of the girls being somewhat lazy or flat-out hate cases like Gura because they have everything they will never have the opportunity to even prove they deserve (they deserve nothing by being so hateful behind-the-scenes anyways, a huge red flag)
The merch situation is why some of the "barely still aboard" Holos like Shion and maybe Gura have not dipped from COVER besides it being well known that COVER will negotiate down to their last option by allowing outright almost not streaming at all while still paying up for talents to not quit. Because the sense of overall stability is what keeps people into Hololive.
Most corpos, even Nijisanji, have this looming threat of doom over their Gens in which despite everything, even their big earners might suddenly one day just say "I'm done" and leave, for anyone willing to pay up this is a nightmare because it's like all your efforts to keep the performer still in this venue of entertainment have failed and the group dynamic loses someone forever and it gets slowly less unified which means harder to connect or relate to, which is pivotal to get people hooked into a talent or a whole gen and maybe full support for the company.
COVER somehow understood this after a series of fuck ups and now they are willing to pay extra to make sure that their talents are OK, Mumei also mentioned that otherwise she would have left already if that wasn't the case.
The whole ecosystem of support they got set-up is why investing yourself in Hololive is safer than in any other agency. Not to mention, their whole anti-yab company wide account scanning they do every once in a while since SOMEONE fucked up big time while playing GTA V and using Discord improperly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77665177
>>77665247
brain damaged redditor debaters

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644521
Well, at least Nijisanji could pull a NijiEU gen right now. Not like it will make a difference tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77666201
Was Cover really that much of a cheapskate that they can't afford pay expenses for few employees from japan? The talents are not going to be there physically anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77670816
I'm willing to be it's more of a polite way to turn down kiara. Reminder that just last year cover was absolutely swamped with works and everyone 3D live was getting delayed, They didn't want to add how many cons kiara wanted to go on top of it and just told her if you don't go to the cons we told you too then you cough up all the expenses yourself.
You are seeing more cons appearances now that they announced making stuff like gamerfes and stop people from doing 2 anniversary 3D lives each. + finishing the new studio
First viv:id and now this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77668835
Streaming has become a lower priority as they transition from company growth to revenue generation.

Events by far sell the most merch by attracting the biggest whales, if the livers practice singing and dancing 5 days a week and only stream once that's fine by holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77644705
There's a whole Vtuber convention in the UK why wont they come here REEEE