If she gets graduated and tries to go indie, do you think other ex-Nijis will reach out to her?

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>>77057345
Sure. The japanese ones.

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Gundou probably will, yeah

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>>77057345
I would laugh if matara mint and doki end up collabing with her and matara gets her in vshojo.

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Doing so is an invitation for rainbow retiree civil war. I really hope they avoid her like the plague.

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>>77057345
She's not part of the clique though she's good

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>>77057345
Probably. She's pretty beloved in the vtuber scene. Contrary to /vt/ shitposts she was very hardworking and good at networking and making friends. She'll most definitely hang out with U-san at least and probably pivot that into a collab with Doki. U-san and Kotoka were good friends even before Niji. I miss her so much.

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>>77057345
Only the JP ones since they must be oblivious to our rrats.

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>>77058188
Between her active denunciation of Sayu and lingering suspicions about her and the termination of Yoruza, any interaction with her risks angering all sorts of groups that are generally supportive of the ex-Nijis. I hope prudence overcomes blanket camaraderie.

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>>77057345
her PL was well known

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>>77057345
はい

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>>77058433 (me)
Yoruza Mel*

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>>77057345
If they want to get backstabbed by a cunt then yes

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>>77058433
>>77058516
dramafag tourists don't even know mel's name while invoking her for spreading fake drama. really shows their pathetic intentions. kys

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>>77058433
>>77058516
>Yoruza
It's one Google search away. Your post is immediately discarded, go commit sudoku

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>>77058663
Okay yeah. I'll take the L.

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Nobody likes her

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>>77059902
I like her.

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>>77059902

Hex, Kotoka, and Finana did the same thing that Elira, Vox, and Ike did minus the the legal docs. They should be treated accordingly from here on out.

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>>77060812
>They should be treated accordingly from here on out.

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>>77058433
yakuza meld...

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>>77060812
Uh, no they didn't. Sayufags are so fucking insufferable I swear. You fuckers have completely twisted the context of her firing into her being some martyr even though the situation isn't comparable to Doki at all. Kotoka fought for Sayu to say in Niji and all Sayu did in return was encourage her fans to shit on her and ruin her life.

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>>77062068
post tits

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>>77062493
okay anon but only because you posted one of my oshis
https://litter.catbox.moe/tdyuc0.mp4

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>>77062068
Hex literally weaponized him being abused as a kid to attack her
Kotoka 'I don't I think I can't wish her good luck' while Sayu was being doxxed and harassed by nijifans
Finana 'I was gaslit' while, again, Sayu was being doxxed by nijifans.
They're all retards

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>>77062068
Finana, pls...

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>>77063815
Hex is a bad person but that's not at all comparable to the black stream. He's just a petty grifter I'm not gonna bother defending.

Kotoka was in a very emotional state and talking from her feelings about someone that she felt betrayed her trust and lied to her repeatedly. Treating her as if she character assassinated Zaion when she said shit way tamer than Zaion calling her a "backstabber" is very disingenuous. Now Zaion's fans are using it to mass harass Kotoka for over a year and everyone is like "oh well she didn't wish her luck so that means she deserves it" when that's fucking bullshit and you know it. That's the only thing people take from Kotoka's entire talk about Zaion where she said she misses her and she wishes things could've gone differently and XSoleil will never be the same without her, as if that singular sentence taken completely out of context justifies treating her like shit for happening to be too emotionally close to someone who got fired and decided to lash out. This is a very common trend in the vtuber community where the person who shows the most honesty and emotional vulnerability over firings or scandals gets the brunt of the blame and harassment because tourists want someone to focus their ire on. They want someone to tear down who will be emotionally affected by it since they know sending hate directly to the corporation will just go to the spam folder. She was by far the person hit the hardest by Zaion's firing in NijiEN and yet she still suffers for it to this day. It's fucking infuriating seeing retards who never watched her or Zaion before this drama treat her like this when she's by far the hardest working person in her wave and the person who collaborated the most with Zaion behind the scenes and tried to form a bond with her. It fucking sucks and I'm sure she was already miserable over the firing before drama monkeys ruined her life.

As for Finana she was speaking entirely based on her only experience with Zaion. She said Zaion asked her for advice, Finana gave her advice, then Zaion lied to management about the advice she gave her. This is entirely a matter of who you choose to believe but it's entirely possible both Finana and Zaion's recollection of the events are true if you think management lied to Finana as well. With how bad Niji management is, who the fuck knows. This is the only one that I'd say is comparable to the black stream because she could've been coerced by management like the black stream participants.

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>>77064972
Cope they all deserve to die, including Zaion.

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>>77064972
Based Kotocat...
Ngl I remember her taking notice of my "Gyaru Pee" comment in chat when I was watching one of her streams, she seems pretty fun from the few times I did check on her streams (and seemed to have great chemistry with Selen too), I hope your Oshi's holding up okay rn.

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>>77062068
Finana is this you?

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This bitch needs a redemption arc

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>>77064972
I suppose then she was still in an emotional state over the past one year, that's why she told Sayu she doesn't want anything to do with her despite yapping about the opposite everytime on stream... Backstabber apologists truly are the worst. Company whores gonna get what's coming for them, one by one.

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>>77064972
Kek. I agree Zaion was a psycho bitch as she's demonstrated repeatedly, but no other company besides niji has their organs go on stream and badmouth former talents in public. Yes they deserve the hate because they're the ones who decided to open their mouths, you always have the choice to not go full nuclear on your colleagues on the way out and if you gotta do that you gotta own it.

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>>77064972
Are you seriously trying to say Zaion's termination and the subsequent backlash "ruined her life"? Bitch 90% of people didn't give a fuck until Doki happened. She demonized Zaion and received backlash for it from Zaion's fans, that's what happens when you shit talk someone like she did. The victim blaming from you sisters is mind boggling. I hope you all get breast cancer, including Kotoka

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This bitch needs to kill herself

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>>77066280
Sayu isn't entitled to someone wanting to be friends with her. Why do Sayufags do this in every fucking thread?
>Oh no Doki doesn't reply to Sayu's dm's clearly this means Doki is evil.
>Holy shit Matara didn't reply to Sayu, what a bitch! >Kotoka doesn't wanna interact with the person who ruined her life and still harasses her to this day, what a backstabbing whore!
Fuck you maybe Sayu should make an effort to be nice to people instead of using her army of simps as a threat against anyone that doesn't wanna talk to her. No other vtuber in the scene has these kind of unhinged fans who think every ghosted DM is an insult. Mint talks about people not replying to her all the fucking time and I've never seen Wisps harassing someone for it. Even Kiara gets ghosted and KFP's aren't as unhinged as you.

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>>77066648
The only other sane person here. Hope it'll be a murder suicide. I want her to take Hex with her

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>>77057345
>making friends with the vampire slayer

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>>77066732
Sayu didn't ruin her life, Niji did. And she made it worse.

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>>77066732
Not a single Sincroknight wants Sayu to collab with anyone from Niji. What we want is for them to stop blocking Sayu from events, collabs and for them to at least respond to her saying "hey, I don't wanna hang out" instead of fucking pretending she doesn't exist. The fact they should be thanking her for sacrificing herself so that they would be seen as victims of Niji is something we don't voice out. It's all sisters falseflagging

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>>77067119
No, only the first part. They ruined her life. What we're witnessing is her having fucking PTSD from what happened to her. A year ago this site was full to the brim with her dox info. That fucks someone up. The fact you sub humans are still posting about her saying how she should move on is the most hypocritical thing I've seen on this site

And yes, since you retards assume everyone shit talking Matara and the rest is a Sincroknight I'll assume every 4channer is a doxxer. Eye for an eye

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>>77066584
I mostly agree with you but I don't think the talents are directly responsible for this policy or really had any say in it. Management have both encouraged and "compelled" these kinds of character assassinations. Given what we saw from the black stream I think Kotoka's treatment of Zaion was honestly her holding back as a protest to what management asked of her. She could've gone the whole "Zaion doxxed all of us and burned our houses and salted our crops" bullshit that management are fond of. Harassing talent over the crimes of management just seems petty and misguided. If you want to see a change in Nijisanji(or even the destruction of Nijisanji) you should be encouraging them to graduate and be indies or join other corpos. Turning them into pariahs that will get harassed even if they leave only gives management more power over them.

>>77067151
>and for them to at least respond to her saying "hey, I don't wanna hang out" instead of fucking pretending she doesn't exist.
There's literally a retard a few posts up shitting on Kotoka for apparently doing exactly this. So it's a lose/lose situation, if you ghost Sayu you're a bad person, if you say you don't want to hang out you're a bad person too. What's the recourse here? I agree that Sayu was done dirty by Nijisanji and they are an evil company, but the way Sayu's fans are behaving isn't winning her any friends.

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>>77066732
Someone says she wants to be friends with you in public ---> She in fact does not want to be friends with you in private ---> She is a lying bitch. And that's before we include the part where she has thrown you under the bus for free. It's really not the kind of rocket science you make it out to be sister, although I'm aware that you are not big on sound logic.

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>>77067482
holy misfire batman

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>>77067524
So anyone shitting on Kotoka or Matara or whatever is automatically a Sincroknight? Flawless logic. Are you Kenji by any chance?

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>>77064972
You're just as delusional as the Weewas. For a while, I interpretted Kotoka's "can't wish her well" as Kotoka being prevented from doing so. Now though, with more context of this exact same type of character assassination attempt from the company, she doesn't get that benefit of the doubt.

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>>77067524
I don't agree you can blame management, ultimately people are responsible for what they say. There is no chance Kotoka was getting fired if she didn't badmouth Zaion, she chose to do that. You probably can't judge anyone in NijiEN too harshly because it's like living in a Kafka novel but that doesn't mean the individuals are beyond criticism.

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>>77067548
>Someone says she wants to be friends with you in public ---> She in fact does not want to be friends with you in private ---> She is a lying bitch.
No one said they want to be friends with Sayu in public. No one mentions Sayu. None of them even have anything in common with her. They don't play gacha games, they don't play Genshin, they don't like talking about /vt/ drama on stream or doing coomer content. It's literally just Sayu's mental illness that compels her to want to befriend a group of strangers that she no longer has any connection to because she NEEDS to be in the cool kids group like some dumb teenage girl. She could be making friends with people who actually share her interests but instead she singlemindedly fixates on wanting to be in the ex-Niji clique.

>>77067753
That's a fair point, they're probably just tourists who don't even watch Sayu. Sincroknights would benefit from Sayu seeking therapy and improving her interpersonal skills. She'd have more collab opportunities and might be happier if she simply moved on.

This is probably the most honest I'm gonna be on /vt/: I sympathized with Sayu a lot and was hoping she'd prove Niji wrong by finding success as an indie. But the way she's just throwing individuals under the bus and continuing this endless petty grudge has soured me on her a lot. Initially she was a maligned talent whom was pretty much totally innocent of everything they accused her of. But the way she's pivoted that into encouraging the harassment of Kotoka, someone I find to be very sincere and kind and admired a lot, has made me just want to see her go away. And this is probably a feeling a lot of people have towards her because at this point Sayu's presence in the scene is just people bringing her up to fling drama at other vtubers. You literally never fucking see anyone promoting her streams or celebrating her milestones it's always just about fucking "owning" the Nijis and extending this grudge that has been burning down /vt/ for the last year.

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>>77068218
Oh so now we are just lying, like there aren't streams out there where she yapps about XSoleil always being 6 and how she misses Zaion, all for clout. She even says in her Black Stream how their paths might cross in the future, yet when it actually came to it she refused. So yeah, she is a lying snake through and through and so are you. All of you can rot in hell by all I care.

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>>77068218
Yeah, so Sayu has been bringing this shit up herself. It weren't those Niji drones in her chat. Also, Kotoka... Sincere and kind person
Lol, lmao even. Miss "I'm not in the state to wish her well". So fucking kind of her to say this about Zaion while she was getting doxxed

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>>77068908
NTA, all you have is a statement by Sayu. You have no idea what they talked about or however Sayu's brainstorms have interpreted the conversation.

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>>77068908
>She even says in her Black Stream how their paths might cross in the future, yet when it actually came to it she refused.
It's almost like circumstances changed because Sayu called her a backstabber and encouraged her fans to harass her. Crazy.

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>>77060812
The same thing, almost to the point of self-plagiarism. The slanderers doing it together instead of separately has some "change the answers a bit so that the teacher doesn't know I'm letting you copy from me" energy.
I'm curious which thee (or more) talents will draw the short straws when Kotoka, Vivi, and/or Scarle formally get the axe.

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>>77069312
In my opinion it wasn’t harassment but I still can’t wish her well

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>>77069245
Tell me the brainstorm that interprets a "Yes, let's make up" into a "No, I never want to speak with you again". Seems like you have quite the brainstorm yourself.
>>77069312
Sayu didn't need to call her a backstabber, she is a backstabber. No one forced her and Hex to weaponize their relationship to throw shade on her, the other 3 genmates could do just fine addressing the situatuon without making her out to be a horrible person behind the scenes. If anything Sayu is still too soft on her wanting to make up after what she did. You won't find me looking to forgive a "friend" who chose to bootlick a corporation over me.

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>>77069877
>>77069877
>the other 3 genmates could do just fine addressing the situatuon without making her out to be a horrible person behind the scenes

This, they could had just said the same things as Meloco, it wouldn't be that hard and they wouldn't be treated as a backstabber.

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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

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I trust this guy: https://youtu.be/OnYwHyAtV3A?si=OcpwUs0ZrtswA3Kv

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>>77058188
proofs>

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>>77058433
>denouncing Sayu
Doing some corpo mandated speil and then moving on is a complete nothing burger, compared to what retards finana tried to say about her.
No idea why this the one thing anons keep bringing up when the mel rrat has standing in reality, and is almost 100% real

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>>77076938
*retards like finana

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
maybe kyo

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>>77072231
this guy has a better voice that most male vtubers

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>>77076938
On the contrary, what finana did was a nothingburger compared to hex and kotoka. They may have told hex to make a statement saying "we don't condone sa jokes and shiet" because of how sensitive their fanbase is. I have legitimately no idea what prompted kotoka to do what she did.

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>>77072231
He did not say anything new.

[Anonymous No.]

I like this ex-Niji. She cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77077291
Correct
Which is why we've been shitting on Kotoka for a while now

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>>77077204
Idk, to me making up a blatant lie about someone trying to trick you is alot worse than simply saying you no longer consider them friends.

Sorry anon, I cant see kotoka as the bad guy in that situation. Ending a friendship sucks but it's not like she directly atracked her. At least with mel she actively took something confidential and leaked it in a way that got her fired.

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>>77077888
>I do know when someone is disrepecting the ones I know.
>Honestly, I don't know if I can say that I'm in the state to wish her good luck on her future ahead.
A blatant lie followed by a direct attack. If you can't see her as a bad guy, then good luck on your friendships.

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the most wild thing is that she brings up her gyaru kayfabe to say that yeah, even though my character is a gyaru who doesn't bow down to authority and are fiercely loyal, I will suck corpo cock and fuck over my friends.
The bitch is a disgrace to gyarus everywhere.

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>>77064972
You should honestly post timestamps in defensive arguments but somehow sisters never pull evidence to reinforce their points.

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>>77078584
>saying she cant wish her well
>direct attack
The other point I'll agree was kind of a scummy move on her part, but still not the sheer evil anons keep pushing that stream as. I think you're getting too worked up over corpo speak man.

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>>77062800
Holy mammaries

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>>77067524
Meloco 'slandered' zaion by just regurgitating the most neutral basic shit and let that be. She didn't elaborate like the others and showed emotional intelligence above the capacity Niji management and their liver drones are possible.

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>>77077888
There's literally zero proof that the Mel thing had any connection to Kotoka. Absolutely zero, the only "evidence" is that they collabed and then Mel was fired. It really highlights how dumb the average vtuber fan is that they jump to such a conclusion without any evidence just because the two events happened in a close timeframe. It's like if someone drinks soda and then gets hit by a car and you blame the soda because it's the last thing they consumed before being hit.

To properly dispel this rrat: Nijisanji and Hololive have a mutually agreed partnership that makes collabs between the two companies much easier than collabing with indies. This partnership includes abiding by both company's NDA's. Anything Mel told Kotoka in private would apply to Niji's NDA since she was told about it while doing work for Nijisanji. If Kotoka indeed leaked this information that Mel told her in confidence then she would be the one to get fired, not Mel. It's the same shit with Suisei/Toko or Matsuri/Hoshikawa, they can tell eachother anything because the other party would be severely punished if they leaked shit that jeopardized the partnership between the two companies.

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>>77079628
if a coworker has a fight with their manager, a normal person won't say anything
if the company told me I had to say something, firstly, I would think about quitting that company. Secondly I would say some vague shit and wish them well.
I would not say that they have attacked everything I love and cherish and I would definitely not make it a point to say that I wish them a terrible future.

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>>77077888
It may not have been a lie as you think. We know sayu had troubles with the management. It is not far fetched to assume that she asked for finana's help during one of these squabbles which finana saw as zaion firing a gun at management from her shoulder. She also did not make a dedicated video just to shit on her.

Hex is a bit different. I would elaborate more but people would think I'm trying to defend him so I'll leave it.

Kotoka on the other hand had no reason to do what she did and unnecessary made a whole ass video just to shit on a person who considered her the closest. This is unironically worse in my opinion

You are biased because out of 3 sayu is most forgiving towards kotoka and you personally like her.

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>>77068218
Nijis have been shitting on everyone constantly over the years. The hate for them in /vt/ has been constantly growing by your trolls actions. You have active doxx sisters, people who oshi the deranged management. How is it that Hololive fans may troll they arent as fucking cancerous as Niji. Even people who enjoy JP arent bad it's just NijiEN with the endless bait threads. Stop being hypocritical all the time.

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>>77079971
Based. I totally believe two corporations who counter program against one another have an NDA agreement that punishes people who provide beneficial intel about the rival company instead of punishing the leaker of any such beneficial intel.
Actually, it was probably Mel who told Cover that the NBA collab was happening which is why she got terminated. The NBA collab was clearly worked on for a very long time and not reactionary and rushed.

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>>77057345
>Kick Zaion while she's down
>Shank Mel in the back after cozying up to her

At this point anyone reaching out to this woman is going to be the proverbial frog ferrying the scorpion across the river.

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>>77079971
There's a simple reason for this. The perpetrator of the action is related to Kotoka and Mel knows who she confided that information with. Kotoka has plausible deniability while Mel took on all accountability. Now. If Kotoka was innocent Mel would of protected her, NDA being breached and her leaving she was in position to say something. But Mel never did.

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>>77080427
If you think Anycolor and Cover are at war then you really must not venture outside of /vt/ very much. They aren't "rivals" in the sense where espionage is a thing. They compete with eachother in metrics but it serves no purpose to sabotage your competition in an industry where your success is directly tied to eachother. Don't believe me? Look at how Cover's stock price has been affected every time Anycolor has a new scandal.

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>>77079971
Then why would she both make a tweet inferring to it during the height of the accusations, and then dissappear completely for months right after the tweet?
Seems a bit too close to be a coincidence.

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>>77080256
Four FUCKING years of shitting up the catalog, don't forget
Nijiniggers also ran countless harassment campaigns chief of which making Aloe resign, but now when the spotlight is on their talents suddenly it's all "p-pls be reasonable"
Get fucked

[Anonymous No.]

Probably not. People still remember what she did to Sayu.

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>>77076938
>the mel rrat has standing in reality, and is almost 100% real
I've yet to see a single explanation as to how this rrat is genuinely real. The Sayu stuff, sure, I'll pin that on Kotoka being a petty evil bitch easily. So don't take this as a defense but an introspective on a rrat that has "standing" in reality. But nobody is able to give a where, a why, or a how on Kotoka getting information so confidential from Mel that it resulted in an immediate graduation, along with any theories on what that information could be in the first place. The further and further we get from Mel's graduation the easier and easier it is to see that there was basically no event she could have been a part of that'd have garnered this reaction, as the only fuck-huge event that came outta nowhere is the MLB thing and Mel wasn't a part of that for sure. Putting the fact that this is /vt/ and it's always morally correct to shit on Anykuro aside, literally the only pieces of proof are
>Kotoka and Mel offcollabed prior
>Kotoka and Mel's PL's don't follow eachother on twitter
The first thing being the reason why people believe it in the first place and the second implying they followed eachother in the first place... which they only did after the fact making it a moot point.

Unless there's been a wild change I don't see where the hell this basis in reality comes from, as the only explanation I've even been able to cook up in my own head is roughly
>Mel leaves her room during offcollab
>leaves PC on
>gyarubitch rubs her hands together and smiles
>downloads Hololive.EXE and Soranudes.ZIP to a flash drive
>leaks it on the darkweb
>costs Yagoo 5 gorillion dollars

[Anonymous No.]

>>77080607
Nice job moving the goalposts. You made the insane assumption that there was a join NDA between Cover and Anycolor that punished sharing rival corporate intel to your own company.

Also, counter programming isn't warfare.
It's basic in the industry. You are expected to keep up with the competition, but first movers are obviously rewarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77062068
Mald harder, nijinigger. faggot

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>>77080737
I do feel bad for this sister because if there were more voice of reasons in your community it would have been possible to defuse the hate. But this conversation is like finding a four leaf clover. The amount of negative crap tbat comes from sisters daily hurts your livers who you could debatably justify as the good ones. I honestly believe Rosemi doesn't deserve any of this shit but that's how bad it has become now that Nijisanji mask is off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77064972
>wall of text


retard.

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>>77080593
>Now. If Kotoka was innocent Mel would of protected her, NDA being breached and her leaving she was in position to say something. But Mel never did.
That's not how JP corpos work and you know it. Mikeneko never came out after the Mafumafu leak and said "Please don't harass Mikocchi it's not her fault that my last collab with her got me fired" because that would still get her sued for breaching NDA. As far as the companies are concerned, you never worked for them and aren't allowed to reference anything that happened between you and their talents. Mel may be stupid but she also cares deeply about not causing trouble for others. She'd rather avoid the situation entirely than speak up on Kotoka's behalf in a way that might draw attention or get either party in hot water.

>>77080715
>Then why would she both make a tweet inferring to it during the height of the accusations
Because she is a sincere and honest person and didn't want to be silent on a situation that hurt her. Same deal with the Zaion firing. She gets targeted because she's a dumb gyaru that speaks from the heart without considering the PR.
>and then dissappear completely for months right after the tweet?
Because she was(and still is) being harassed by pieces of shit who think her silence is proof of guilt while simultaneously her speaking up is also proof of guilt. There's no possible way to win so she took a hiatus to deal with shit. She was also being doxxed in real life due to JP schizos. Other livers have referenced her and said she is active behind the scenes to help Denauth with their debuts and is trying to recover her mental state after being torn down for months. None of this shit is conclusive and you're just inferring her guilt because it would be convenient for the narrative you want to believe.

This is exactly why Japan's entertainment industry is so fucked with idols killing themselves and receiving death threats. Companies choose to protect themselves with sending legal threats and harassing people instead of doing anything to protect their talents, and the talents are forced to take the brunt of the harassment as both the primary victims and public-facing representatives for these companies. These people are terrified of speaking out to clear their name because they might get sued by either their own company or a competitor, and they're also terrified of staying silent because the rumors just circulate and get worse and worse from their "silence." It's a disgusting cycle.

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>>77081224
>Same deal with the Zaion firing. She gets targeted because she's a dumb gyaru that speaks from the heart without considering the PR.
Mfw Kotoka fans like her because her backstabbing felt authentic.

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>>77081033
>Mel shares off hand that Cover is collabing with the Dodgers
>Kotoka shares that info with someone at Anycolor
>Anycolor fast tracks an NBA collab to get ahead of the Dodger's collab
>It's clearly fast tracked since a third of EN doesn't even know about it, and there's clearly not much effort put into it since its basically a glorified merch drop
>Kotoka happens to be one of the members to be included in it, despite not streaming
>Cover finds out that the information leaked and terminate Mel
>A week after Anycolor announces their NBA collab, Cover releases news about their Dodger's collab
>Gura confirms today on stream that the Dodger's collab was moved up earlier than expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081417
Damn I wonder what freaky shit Kotoka fans get off to

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081417
I'm pretty sure that's a falseflag, given the whole "sincere and honest" person thing. It's less that she's sincere and honest and more that she's just dumb and very emotional and speaks before thinking. For better and worse as shown by the sorry for being a haafu stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081600
At last I truly see...

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>>77058333
>good at networking and making friends
Yeah, before stabbing them in the back. She's even better at that part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081689
She is sincere and honest though. She's moreso in her members streams but still. With other vtubers theres a lot of things you can't even talk about or ask in their streams but Kotoka is open to anything even if it might get her in trouble or cause drama. And it has caused a lot of drama for her because people take shit out of context. No one talks about how she said XSoleil will always have 6 members. No one brings up her admitting she never auditioned for NijiJP or VTA to dispel the VTA reject rrats. People only care about shit that advances their narratives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081689
>she's just dumb and very emotional and speaks before thinking
On that we can agree. Doesn't make her less of a snake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081224
Mel was silent to protect others. Kotoka spoke up too protect herself. You know she fucked up by not behaving the professional or JP way in this instance. You don't think Mel wasn't emotionally hurting the most and you belittle her actions?
Cover could of kept Mel but she left to keep the company at a higher standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081600
Wait this is why Mel got pulled. Cause of a Niji "EN"

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081996
>No one talks about how she said XSoleil will always have 6 members.
I literally talked about it in this very thread when citing the very reasons why she is a two-faced bitch. See >>77068908

[Anonymous No.]

>>77064972
>Treating her as if she character assassinated Zaion when she said shit way tamer than Zaion calling her a "backstabber" is very disingenuous.
Bullshit. She flat out said Zaion was hurting the people she loved and causing all kinds of rifts in the company out of some kind of selfish greed.
Go back and actually fucking listen to the words she uses.

On top of that, "zaion's fans are using it to mass harass kotoka" bitch what? Zaion doesn't HAVE mass fans. She's a minor indie. How do you sisters keep forgetting that Sayu isn't fucking big? Especially when the "fans" that DID harass Kotoka were confirmed to be more fucking luxiem sisters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77081600
See, this rrat stands way more ground. Even if we ignore the baseline assumption that all of Hololive's japanese folks are going to be involved, it answers questions about why this specific collab could'va easily been the one. But even before that, there's an even bigger question that quite frankly needs to be answered.

How did Kotoka get this information in the first place? Specifically. Because there's only two answers: Mel told her, or Kotoka went onto Mel's PC. The latter is impossible as Mel was graduated for it and would've led to legal charges and the NBA collab quite possibly never happening in the first place, because of insider leaking between two big groups turns into huge deals like that. And if it's the former... why? How the hell did it come up in conversation, why did Mel think it was a good idea to bring up, and what caused Kotoka to singlehandedly tank her career giving a one-off piece of information that at worst would have caused the biggest incident between groups so far? She's living the best case scenario right now of being perma-stealth suspended, there was no world where she'd be promoted anymore than she already was for this information. Plus it also implies both companies don't already have spies in eachothers and many other cookiejars to begin with, but that's the actual schizorrat realm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082515 (me)
Also I wanna preface for my own sanities sake: I'm not the faggot trying to defend Kotoka on every ground who keeps posting pictures of her he probably grabbed from /nijien/ by searching Kotoka in the searchbar. I'm just trying to piece together how this whole incident even happened, if it was even an incident to begin with. Seriously, Mel was working there for over 5 years, I just can't imagine her gabbing about something like that even with a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082435
KEK, this is some level of falseflag I never thought achievable
Nijiniggers really oshi the fucking company huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082046
>Cover could of kept Mel
They literally said they couldn't do that even though they wanted to. And I believe them, Yagoo is a good person.
>she left to keep the company at a higher standard.
There's no proof she left voluntarily. She was gracious in saying goodbye but it's still a termination.

>>77082267
There's nothing twofaced about that.
>Zaion gets fired
>Kotoka says xsoleil will always be 6 and that she misses her. She also says she can't wish her well at this point in time.
>Zaion uses her fans to harass Kotoka and calls her a "backstabbing bitch"
>Months later, Zaion contacts Kotoka to reconnect. Kotoka says she wants nothing to do with her.
This just sounds like a normal response to someone throwing you under the bus. I don't want to argue Zaion didn't have a right to call Kotoka mean names but it makes no sense for Kotoka to reconnect with Zaion in that context. She couldn't even trust her anymore at that point. She probably(rightfully) believed anything she told Zaion in private would be leaked to dramafags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082435
This as well. NijiEN actively uses scapegoats to emotionally dump their frustrations on the daily. You can be unhappy with things but don't shit post directly on the other side, it's not that hard to start conversations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
only the JP ones
except notmel

[Anonymous No.]

>>77067524
>There's literally a retard a few posts up shitting on Kotoka for apparently doing exactly this. So it's a lose/lose situation, if you ghost Sayu you're a bad person, if you say you don't want to hang out you're a bad person too.
That's literally not what happened.
She instead went on and on about how much she loved Zaion and how XSoleil will always be 6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj1VxyN8JT8&t=10846s
For example, Kotoka said all of this shit roughly a month before Zaion went off on her rant about her. She was pretending as if she still loved and cared for Zaion while the actual fucking person was crying alone in the corner trying to find the strength to not kill herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082827
>Zaion uses her fans to harass Kotoka and calls her a "backstabbing bitch"
You really like to refer to this event. Don't suppose you could post the source material for the rest of us, do you? Would really like to see it for myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082435
Niji stans always try to twist the narrative in their favor, what's new? There's no arguing in good faith with them at all. You gotta wonder if they get paid in (You)s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082827
In Nijisanji they keep the Mels even when they should be terminated. Cover could always do the same thing but they are the industry leader. This is why I am voicing my opinion that they are being kept at a higher standard. Also Mel confided that there were people willing to fight for her. On all grounds it was a proper termination over a situation that should be kept confidential. Kotoka yabbed when she should of kept silent. Good or not it was her actions that put a spotlight on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083331
As always, proof next thread (never)

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083489
Yeah I am tired of the logical ones but stil don't put forth evidence or hints. Considering sisters favourite line is post proof but never do the same. It's a disgusting amount of hypocrisy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083467
I think Kotoka yabbed in responding to the rrats at all, but I still don't think she had anything to do with Mel's firing.
There's no fucking way Cover would continue collaborating with Anycolor if Anycolor let a Niji talent leak shit about Cover's confidential info, and got a talent fired. Like, even with as lax as Cover can be, they take protecting their talents very seriously. They wouldn't be letting Nerissa continue collabing with NijiEN's or Toko continue to hang out with Suisei if they thought Anycolor couldn't be trusted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083331
>>77083489
>>77083801
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zaion+backstab
here have fun, I assume you have the very basic thinking skills to watch youtube videos right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082515
Mel’s cat had recently passed before the collab. So she was more vulnerable, hell even here most dedicated fans didn’t know until Mel mentioned it in her statement letter so she was holding in her feelings about it. Being more vulnerable talking to someone probably made her slip. And that’s under the assumption it’s all true, plus we can also use covers statement in them wanting to retain Mel but she decided to pursue termination instead in this scenario as cover wanting to take legal action against the leaker but Mel did not want that and instead pursued being terminated as a result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77084067
>Mel’s cat had recently passed before the collab.
What a coincidence, huh?
>cat dies
>Kotoka backstabs
Like fucking clockwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083825
Nijisanji is the JP industry leader. For Holo It's possible to cut off China because it's a branch but war on the homefront is something else. EN people sort of don't understand Niji has a deeper penetration in the market, sort of like if EN twitches audience spoke Japanese but they always use YT kind of demographic. Cover can't afford to have that kind of beef. Which is why Niji failing their international EN branch will be huge, and will affect Cover adversely again till JP separates them properly by stsrkingly different yearly performance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083975
I don't think any of this even applies to Kotoka.
She did supposedly talk about her recently but I haven't seen it clipped, just sincroknights referencing it /here/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083975
>Doesn't actually call anyone a "backstabbing bitch"
Lmao, force the sister to come up with proof and they self-report. Sis it's literally right there in the thumbnail of the first clip! Then again I'm not expecting good reading and listening comprehension from the dregs defending Nijisanji at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>77084734
I seriously don't think Cover is in a situation where they're reliant on Nijisanji for viewers. It's a pretty dumb argument that Cover can't cut off Nijisanji due to numbers. Cover is the company that didn't let their talents play Nintendo games for like over a year until they signed a streaming contract with Nintendo. They aren't reliant on any other big company for their existence or growth. They could remove Minecraft perms tomorrow and still survive, Niji is nothing to them.

It's also just a huge logical leap that only seems to serve the narrative that Kotoka had some kind of involvement in Mel's firing. It's significantly more likely Mel leaked it to any other person in her life and has no connection to Nijisanji whatsoever. No idea why people insist on this narrative that has no basis in truth except to shit on Kotoka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77084067
I can believe pretty much all of this then. It's still hard for me to think up how the Dodger's collab would'va come up while she was in a bad mental space instead of anything else, but I can't really find a reason to deny it as my experiences with being on the other end of an emotional breakdown are relatively rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77085082
Figured as much. She metaphorically said it is not the same as verbal accusations the Sisters always put forth as context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77084763
The potion one >>77083268 is the one that stands out to me because she went on so fucking long about Zaion and how much she loved her, and how it completely contrasted with her streams at the time about the lack of support and how many of the people she poured her heart into and thought as "friends" were the same people who now were either smearing her or ghosting her entirely, with Kotoka being the one that hurt the hardest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083975
>Doesn't make her fans harass her
>Doesn't call her a backstabbing bitch
Does your perception altering device come in package with your sisterhood?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77067524
If Kotoka didn't want to be part of the black stream she could've just fucking asked

[Anonymous No.]

>>77085502
Trust a person's actions and not their words... poignant life lesson

[Anonymous No.]

>>77066584
>badmouth former talents
>"I can't wish her well for now"
>OMG she basically murdered Zaion and took a shit on her grave.
Sayufags are mentally ill just like their oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77085176
Cover isn't reliant I'm saying that an open dispute with a large rival company is bad for both sides. Competition in the JP landscape is fierce.
As for reaching to fit Kotoka in the narrative you still consider Mel to have been powerless in her situation which couldn't have been further from the truth. An EN JP translation of many in Cover still having her back is available to find but it would of caused a lot of problems.
I honestly think Mels actions would have protected Kotoka's career but Kotoka fucked up herself.
In the end due to the NDA both of our arguments can't be proven conclusively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77063815
They all have a graduation note with their name written on it just like the wigger. Sieg Zaion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083975
Is it just me, or is ever single godamn clip of Sayu something related to drama instead of her normal content?
It's starting to feel like her fan clippers are bigger antis than nijisisters at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086594
That's something everyone who observes this whole drama inevitably notices. Sayu's entire persona is drama. Her regular fans hate it but tourists love associating her with drama and she's too mentally ill to realize pandering to tourists isn't good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086594
She's fucking tiny, anon.
She doesn't HAVE fan clippers. The closest thing is Sky Rainpuff who mostly clips mint.
I don't know how people keep forgetting that she's not nearly big enough to have a horde of fan clippers or an army of simps to attack people with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086560
The EN JP translation is a vid of Mel saying 'staff in Cover will support her on what she wants to do about it'

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086810
She has like 1k viewers on average across YT/Twitch. MariMari_en and Grimmivt have around the same and they get way more variety of clips. Sayu's lack of non-drama clips isn't due to her size as a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77087001
Sounds like clippers are just grifting on her paparazzi style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086810
Don't take this the wrong way anon, but plenty of much smaller vtubers, indie and small corpo, have deticated clippers. Whether it be from deticated fans or from those channels that universally clip smaller vtubers randomly. Just feels like only opportunistic dramafags are clipping her, and in turn doing some real damage to her reputation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083268
>while the actual fucking person was crying alone in the corner trying to find the strength to not kill herself.
Sayu is a fucked up bitch with a ruined life. No matter what Kotoka does, Sayu will always be in a bad place. You can't blame Kotoka for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77087371
A chumbud being the voice of reason in a thread is a rare sight. Good on you. Sayu's just being used by dramafags and it's really obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086810
>Sayu is huge now and bigger than *insert chuuba I dont like here* so she is better
>Sayu is just a small indie so pls undastandaru
Can you fuckers at least be consistent when you raid threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77087371
The whole situation is just really frustrating, especially for the people who've followed her before Niji. She was sassy, sure, but not exactly drama prone beyond being blunt enough to ruffle feathers. All of the constant harassment and ghosting really hit her mind and she's still taking a while to recover from it.
Hell, in I think March she was worried because she heard that some people were trying to dox her again, and warned us that if she has to take a 2 week break or so, it would be because she was moving again.
Last stream had its own little raid of fuckwits screaming "DIVORCE DIVORCE DIVORCE" in both twitch and youtube chat.
It's fucking awful seeing someone you genuinely like being twisted by bad actors and turned into a lolcow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77087685
NTA but by definition Indie means not in a company. Small means their CCV. Also not a number fag but you understand the definition right? cause I do and I hate numbers but I hate idiots more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77087371
NTA but it's a bit of a double edged sword.
Those clips early on did help alot in trying to clear Sayu's name when the niji slander was at it's worst. But like you said it's all you can really find of her clip wise, so outsiders who have no idea what the context is might end up turned off by those doomer moments.
Also on the inverse, it attracts even more dramafags to her streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
>The name's kotoka, but you can call me Kotoka the vampire slayer, has a nice ring to it don't you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77086810
True but she has an army of dramafags and anti nijis around her especially now that doki won't throw them a bone. She just has to point at someone and say "you're it" and all the dramatubers and associated audience will pile up on them. I think that's why she did the whole reaction on the armchair video guy. She wanted them to apologize but they didn't so now she will destroy them. I expect her to bring it up again when they graduate and try to make it as indies, just to keep it fresh in people's minds. Well, I can understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77088612
That just sounds downright sociopathic even for a victim. If I was a victim of Niji's bullshit I'd try to distance myself and grow my own audience instead of constantly getting involved in petty drama. This shit will destroy her mentally in the long term. Doki's approach was much smarter and healthier. She channeled Niji's harassment into developing her own identity as a streamer and has now fully separated herself from Niji and is thriving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77088612
>True but she has an army of dramafags and anti nijis around her especially now that doki won't throw them a bone.
What is this garbage fanfiction? She doesn't have any kind of army. She has a few hundred people who tune into her streams and maybe a few regulars who browse 4chan and twitter.

The "army" of anti-nijis is completely unrelated to Sayu, though. THAT does exist due to them pissing off fucking everybody due to their own actions in 2024.
>She wanted them to apologize but they didn't so now she will destroy them.
Retard.
She wants them to apologize, so it ends when they fucking apologize.
It's seriously that simple. Just apologize and stop fucking ignoring her or harassing her and it's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77062800

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>>77088796
It's also a flat out lie. She's not actively seeking Niji and has been trying to distance herself since she left that document.
The problem is that the sisters and dramafags won't leave her alone, and she's too prone to getting one-guy'd. She never brings up Niji or anyone related to it during regular streams unless it was directly prompted by a question she's answering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77088796
Cmon dude you'll be twice as vindictive of you were in her position. The fact she waited this long for people who drove her to almost anheroing to apologize to her, privately I must stress, is a testament to her forgiving nature. Unfortunately for these livers, her forgiveness only runs so deep and their company is shitting the bed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77089013
Hmm think of Kings landing in GOT . Their own army is small but they have all the big armies coming to help them.

She doesn't have a army of her own but the dramafags and anti nijis( which I fully support) rally up to her because doki doesn't give them anything. I'm sure she understands that. I don't blame blame her for using them to get back at people who almost drove her to suicide. I hope you don't misconstrue my post as an attack on her. I would do the same thing in her position, if not worse. I'm glad she's not too forthright about it ,though. Subtlety is much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77089013
A fair number of Dragoons are still quite sympathetic towards Sayu or feel a sense of gratitude towards her for starting Nijisanji's reputational decline and reaching out early to support Doki. Unless Dokibird herself is threatened, they are willing to lend their muscle to defend Sayu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77090278
This anon gets it. Dokibird's relative peace with the people who made her miserable is nice and all... but some of us still think Kurosanji is still getting off too lightly for their crimes. And I'll lend a hand to anyone else they may have wronged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77090364
At this point I hope she reaches out and it gets reciprocated. It doesn't even have to be for the stream or career or anything, either. I just want Sayu to have someone else to talk about that shit with who's been through a similar story. Might be cathartic for both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
Kotoka's a sweet girl. It's a great shame that she has so many dedicated trolls. Also, she's japanese, so she's got plenty of people to collab with if she went indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
the Holomafia will take her out

[Anonymous No.]

>>77088612
Just because everyone shat on NijiEN doesn't mean it was a collective group of people. Ever stopped to think that everyone with comment sense pointed out how much of an asshole move Nijisanji pulled off. No amount of gaslighting or misinformation, mental gymnastics or erasing history is going to fix the fucked up choices / actions Nijisanji EN made.

Own up to your actions and move on.. o wait, you never apologized you stupid fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77090851
Doki wants absolutely nothing to do with her and I'm not sure where Sayufags think there's any chance of them interacting or collabing.
I feel like Sayu only gets a pass on this board because everyone hates Niji and wants to signal boost her to shit on Niji. In any other situation her menhera behavior would get her rightfully shat on for appealing to dramafags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091115
What are you attacking me for? I was merely stating my view of the situation?
>you never apologized you stupid fucks
Finana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77058333
iff this is her she is so sexy i might have to forgive her

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091246
Ah yes, we totally hate dramafags on this board, am I right fellow sophisticated Vtubing enjoyers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091246
I think doki will interact her in the long term. But only as a fellow indie. Not as some fellow warrior against kurosanji. If doki feels that sayu's sentiments hinge towards the latter even a little bit then she won't interact with her.

Good thing her outbursts are getting rarer rarer so in future they might interact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091575
I unironically hate them but even i know they are impossible to remove

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091393
Probably just someone who skimmed the paragraph instead of reading it. Ignore them tbdesu

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091612
I think that's a nice sentiment but I don't think they'll ever interact precisely because Sayu can't stop herself from doing something retarded. Doki is scared if she ever interacts with Sayu, then Sayu will use it to stir drama against Nijisanji. The last thing Doki wants is dramafags using her in their crusade against Nijisanji when she's finally making inroads with her old friends and things are getting back to normal. Doki is a very polite and considerate person and doesn't like creating trouble for others. She only went public with the Niji drama because it was that fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77060812
>The Sayu video from Kotoka is still up
>Like barely 20 minutes long
>Sayufags STILL refuse to watch it
Divorcee prostitute poon really does scramble the brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091861
This. Behind her mischievous scatterbrain persona, Dokibird is actually more cunning and savvy than she lets on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091246
>In any other situation her menhera behavior would get her rightfully shat on for appealing to dramafags.
the funniest thing about this sayu drama is how everything is always her fault kek. It shows that niji's attack worked which is hilarious.
>Release slander statement
>Niji isn't completely hated yet so no vtuber nor corpo would dare to go against niji
>Zaion is now trapped because no one dares to take her side
>Even the universal "doxxing is bad" mindset is thrown out the window as people watch from the sideline
>Only people who are willing to help are dramatubers
>Zaion accepts the only hands that were willing to help
>SEE! She is bad because she dared to not suffer alone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>77092209
>Doki is a very polite and considerate person and doesn't like creating trouble for others.
How nice. I'm sure the bullies at Niji will be very grateful to her consideration as they harass the next person into suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091861
It isn't mere sentiment. I am talking about long term. She has improved a lot from the past and will keep improving in the future. I always laugh at sayufans who piss and shit themselves whenever she has a meltdown, as if other chuubas don't have worse meltdowns. So it's very much possible that they might cross paths. Of course this all just us speculating. They could collab tomorrow and we would both be dumb for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77092391
This is why the anti-Niji coalition needs all sorts. Some, like Dokibird, are great anchors for independent expansion and building goodwill. Others, like Matara, are great at extracting defectors from the black company. Finally, Sayu is the fighter. Someone who can get down and dirty with the dramatubers whenever people are starting to forget how awful the enemy is.

However, the coalition is still fragile, and the last thing we need is someone like Kotoka who could outright blow it apart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77093075
this is so fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>77093137
Post Tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77093184
fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>77093137
Yeah the implication that Sayu is fighting anything is kind of pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77077515
She also has very delicious and meaty thighs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77093075
>Finally, Sayu is the fighter.
Fuck off.
There's no fancy coalition or war. It's just streamers trying to recover from an abusive work environment, and the vindictive cunts like Riku, Elira, and Kotoka sending waves of hateful chinks out to harass the people who escaped. .

[Anonymous No.]

>>77062800
Whats the sauce to that hot vid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77085265
Probably not specifically the dodgers but for whatever it was that ended up being leaked. It could’ve been something like merch deals and with who, rates for said merch or music. Something like that cover would want to keep to themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77083268
>Xsoleil will always be 6, I totally love zaion guys
>Ghosts her, zero contact for a whole year
>Not even a message through her PL despite them having met in person before their debut
Make it make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>77062800

[Anonymous No.]

>>77093075
Sayu is not much of a fighter these days. Understandably so, she has already done her part and she found herself alone with nothing but scorn for it. I wouldn't be keen on fighting a fight no one else actually wants to fight, either. If you want a fighter you would have to look for the next person who will have something to take up with Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77102123
It seems some of the folks who were kept out of basketball want out. But hex is among them so....how do you feel that he will pretend to be a niji victim and get away with it all.?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
she'll be fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>77103604
Not as easy as it sounds. Kyo already showed us that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057467
Vshojobber is never beating those poacher allegations

[Anonymous No.]

>>77106277
Showed what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77091246
>Doki wants absolutely nothing to do with her and I'm not sure where Sayufags think there's any chance of them interacting or collabing.
https://streamable.com/k6wvt8

[Anonymous No.]

>>77058188
Source:

[Anonymous No.]

>>77107012
God, I hope so.
It's possible it just means more people like iPN or notChihiro/notBora/notGundou, though.
I just want her to finally get a damn happy ending and some peace of mind to make a better career. Her getting something related to closure and a helpful ear out of this would seriously make everything just a happy ending.
In the end though, it could be wrong and I could just be writing fanfiction because life sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77107137
Her life doesn't suck though. Its much much better than majority of anons on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77064972
>"She was by far the person hit the hardest by Zaion's firing in NijiEN and yet she still suffers for it to this day."

>Zaion is fired
>Slandered by her employers and her "friends"
>Constantly harassed by Nijifans
>Doxxed hard and had to move
>KOTOKA MOST AFFECTED

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345
I know it'll never happen but if she somehow collabs with Sayu or Rica, the meltdown here would be glorious

[Anonymous No.]

>>77058188
true, she only got the clique only NBA collab by backstabbing Mel

[Anonymous No.]

>>77111782
I mean out of the three kotoka is the only one who has an olive branch extended to her. The door is closed for the other too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77058456
Hold up, what? Last I've seen any discussion about Kotoka's PL the consensus seemed to be "nobody knows if she even had one".

[Anonymous No.]

>>77082435
>>77082788
>>77082895
>>77083378
>Using the screenshot of the known Mysta harasser
>Not including all the other fucked up shit about xer.
Hi Rebecca. I see you and your clique are going at it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77106688
can't poach some jobless person

[Anonymous No.]

>>77106877
Showed that pretending to be a Niji victim (or pretending to be more of a victim than he actually is) in an effort to gain fans is not easy, or at least not as easy as actually being a Niji victim while also being a genuinely good streamer worth watching. It's why he's not doing as good as the other ex-Nijis, except for the part where he no longer has to pay the yacht tax.
>>77111782
That would do wonders to repair her reputation. I'm not sure if there's anything that could give her a better post-Niji boost than Sayu's forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>77112871
Yeah but what does that have to do with hex?

[Anonymous No.]

Wise for Kotoka to disappear during the NBA and Dodger event.
Was it worth it, Kotoka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>77057345

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Daily reminder that sayu loves kotoka and if you talk shit about her you hurt her a lot. If you want to hate someone, hate Hex or finana.

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>>77057345
Who is this?

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>>77057345
all of them

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>>77093184
A Kot is fine too

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>>77058188
proof?

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>>77092079
Everyone watched back then retard, and Sayu even reacted to it last month, kys sister.

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>>77057374
ok

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The saddest thing is that if Kotoca reached out to Sayu, she would forgive her and help her out, when reacting to the video of Zaions termination from NijiEn she even defended her.
And if she forgives her, I would too, as if Doki forgives elira I would too.

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>>77057345
Don't worry she will stay at Niji rotting as the irrelevant piece of shit from a dying branch she is

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>>77057345
There's a good pic of futa Kotoka with Mysta so with that as my sole guiding piece of evidence I'm going to say Kuro will reach out

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>>77057345
This whore will collab with doki before sayu will let that sink in sayukek

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>>77137086
Doki doesn't even know who Kotoka is.

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>>77137360
Matara and mint do :) sayukek

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>>77057345
Mint and Matara had some great collabs with her, and Mint met up with her multiple times IRL when she was in Japan in 2023. So those 2 definitely will.

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>>77057345
Is that spineless whore still hiding like a rat? LMAO what a pathetic loser.