/voms/

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>>766766
Question for the sudden surge in Monoe fags coming out of the woodworks when she's fired, where were you guys when her channel was floundering? Did any of you watched her streams or even subbed to her channel?

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>>766839
newfag

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>>766839
No I only watch hololive. Everything else is trash. I just want to act sad like everyone else though. Poor Monoe...

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>>766855
Hit a little too close to home huh

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>>766839
Monoe's departure hurts both Pikamee and TMSK fans. This was the VOMS Project, and the three were close knit and effectively a unit. You don't have to be a direct fan of hers to feel the effects of this or agree that nuking one's content out of existence is terrible.

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>>766895
my sweet magnet jacket’s arriving in march how about yours?

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>>766890
go away

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>>766855
It's a holotard troll
the one i was talking about that pops up and says no one watches monoe
just ignore him i actually watched her streams
it doesn't matter if you tell him you've been watching her he's just gonna ignore it

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>>766839
I personally don't care about Monoe (or the person behind her rather), obviously I hope she's alright and that is nothing serious, but this affects Pika personally so if affects me personally since I do care about her.

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>bait
>shitposting
>rrats
>no schedule
>no streams
OP, just nuke the thread until we get news. No point to keep it alive if there's no reason, this isn't /vg/.

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>leave Holotrash after the Aloe scandal
>specifically come to voms precisely to avoid all the shitty drama with all the corporate vtuber agencies

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>started to tear up when pikamee cried
Why does this hurt so bad?

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>>766766
VOMS_EN

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>>766839
Majority of people come here for drama

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I'm gonna full on support Tomoshika hard now that I can't support Monoe anymore. I know Fireball gets depressed easily, and I don't want her to feel bad.

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>>767265
I'm not sure if that even needs to be a thing when Pika has strong English, VOMS probably? doesn't care that much
also GYARI had massive trouble keeping up with just 3 idols, he intentionally wants it manageable

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>>766869
That spite kill. lol. Made me smile despite a sad institution.
Not since Lemmy on /mu/ have I seen a post go from "That's cool." to "Fucking lynch them!"

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>>767345
Pika's english is regressing, she had trouble with words like approachable

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>>767376
But she speaks english nonetheless. Having an official EN branch would hurt her, and she's the ace card of voms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXvBdNcf6HI

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>>766839
I've been subbed to her and occasionally put on her ttrpg archives when I was painting my Imperial Guard, but a couple days ago I started watching her つぐのひ archive for my /djt/ reps. I'm glad I downloaded it at least...

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>>766839
I was one the magnetposters at the vtuber thread pre-split, and I really enjoyed her collabs with the girls and the other dudes like her Portal playthrough, hipster faggot

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>>766839
I was subbed and regularly participated in her chat but most people here only care because Pikamee, yes

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do you think pika is still crying right now

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Firing her is one thing, but why did they have to delete everything? Don't they own the character?

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>>767766
They don't own everything about her.
Like her voice.

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>>767642
Her eyes are probably red and sore from it

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>there is absolutely nothing you can do to comfort and support the girls in their darkest moment
>you can never give them a shoulder to cry on or listen to their fears and reassure them things will be okay
>all you can do is watch through the monitor from the powerless side of the parasocial relationship and see them suffer
This was all a mistake. Humans were never meant for these cold systems.

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Best case scenario is she goes back into being a vtuber but with a different name and avatar.
Just keep an eye out for new vtubers, they might be her.

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>tfw they finally killed da ho!

da ho was monoe

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>>766839
I'm a Pika-fag and I saw her channel last night. Sad stuff. I'm not a numberfag, but one of her streams had 7k views. Sad stuff.

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>>767917
I hope they're at least talking to their families

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>>766839
You just outed so many people, what a fucking chad

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I wouldn't exactly call supporting them as an active viewer "absolutely nothing", anon. It's definitely not the most ideal way to comfort them, but being there in the best way you can and ensure they have as enjoyable stream as possible is still something and is very likely to ease the pain.

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>Tsunderia stopped posting Kana when she left
>VOMSfags cant let go
She even got fired, not graduated. Clearly she did something bad. She'll be remembered as the Chris of voms soon.

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>>768025
It hasn't even been a day fag

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>>767923
I just wonder how you would be able to find her though if she were to reincarnate. I assume there's more Japanese vtubers that nobody knows about than there are for the west.

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>>767994
>outed
hardly new fag
only people he outed were the newfags larping
now stop giving the troll food
he does this shit every other thread for free (you)s and it derails everytime

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>>766766
>was a month away from doing an anniversary stream with her friends
>fucks up and gets fired
>we aren't even allowed to know why
Thats fucked up. The viewers have every right to know why someone they subbed and donated to got fired.

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relevant

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>>768080
>anniversary
I wonder if they'll even acknowledge it now. How could you enjoy it after all this?

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>>768080
Must have been pretty bad, I'm hoping for drugs or sex scandal

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>>768099
Even if she wasn't fired for doing drugs
he brings up a fair point about what the other two have done

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>>767054
This. I just don't want to see Pika crying.

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>>766839
I watch all VOMS girls. I am the VOMSfag

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>>768054
I'm sure she'll eventually show up in ttrpg collabs with dism and madara and the like again. I just wonder if that'll be where I hear about her return or if I'll manage to see her debut live for once.

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>>768121
Whataboutism is actual faggotry and no it is not relevant at all, especially considering that Japan doesn't have prudefag like the West when it comes to drawn content. If the drug stuff is real, yeah it's shitty, but that has actual legal consequences there.

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>>768181
I seriously doubt it's drugs and if you believe it's drugs you're probably fucking autistic
no need to get pissy about

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ITS THEIR TIME TO SAVE US

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>>768080
>>768099
combined with the lack of any info. This gives people the fear of anything can happen to the other girls at any moment. dayum.

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>>768219
You're coming in here trying to prudefag when instead you should be shopping for a rope. Japan does not care about reading lewd doujins or lolicons. Stop trying to enforce your cancerous Western mindset on them. It literally has nothing to do with what Monoe did.

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>>768265
ok cool, whatever
get the fuck back on topic faggot
i was only bringing up something
you're the one who's sperging now bring up something that was in that pic related that I never brought up myself
literally fucking commit suicide sperg

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>>768317
your topic won't bring monoe back and it won't shed any light. Just stop, relax and chill dayo.

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i would give anything to have her back

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>>768317
>bring up something completely unrelated
>literally admit openly like a retard that "HMM HE MAYBE HAS A POINT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE HMM??"
>"get back on topic and kill yourself"
I have to believe you are not this mentally infirm and are just performing a very weak bait. Either way, I think Reddit is more to your taste.

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>>768225
>they set aside their differences to face a common enemy, Gyari
Are they the Goku and Vegeta of dramatubers?

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>>768348
i'm aware of that

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These threads will never be the same, will they? People are already eating the "Monoe did drugs" shit seriously, this is not helping at all.

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>>768352
if you honestly think anything you're saying in the slightest is hardcore or edgy or offensive you need to fucking lurk more
same shit different thread
come up with something new for once faggot
what's next you're gonna say cope?

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>>768387
When GYARI doesn't put out an inkling of information before "le contract was breeched :^)", I don't know what else you expect. It will be rrat after rrat until enough people coalesce around one, and that will be the "truth".

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Okay, imagine this. Gyari hurries up VOMS2 out the gate so Pika and TMSK don't feel so alone. The catch? One of them is a dude.

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It seems like the popular theory among Japs is that, being tax season, it was discovered that magnet is underage which is problematic with her drinking

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>>768387
It's going to need time to die down though losing 1/3 of a group is never going to fully heal. Even if another pair or trio was introduced and were a good addition.
It might be considered worse than murder in Japan, but drugs are one of the least harmful suggestions for people here. Something where she can get help or learn from the mistake. That, or selling merch on the side. Things that were bad enough to be fired over but not a complete slap in the face to the others that would kill any friendship.

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>>768080
pinpointing how monoe screwed up would lead to people accusing GYARI of spinning a one-sided story, directing harrassment to a lone girl, publicizing her shame for everyone to see, wrecking her future as a streamer, and so on. it sucks but it's the reasonable thing to do.

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>>768489
There's no way magnet is underage

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>>768476
It'll be a babaniku

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>>768387
Nope. Its gonna be talked about daily until Gyari tells the fans why he fired Monoe. VOMS being just 2 members is lame since they were a trio who were also friends. Breach of contract? That could mean anything. Maybe he was justified, but until then all we can enjoy are rats

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>>768476
and? Pika and TMSK collab with males all the time.

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>>768387
It just happened all of a sudden so it might take a long while for stuff to settle down. But this shows that nothing is safe from rrat annoyance.

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>>768511
Yeah, Monoe being underage is a less believable rrat than her doing drugs, honestly. I have no idea where people get this idea.

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>>768511
I meant, under 21, obviously.

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>>768476
voms 2 is just shikataro landing headshots in cod and bragging about his girlfriend.

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>>768489
That's also possible and less harmful than the other things suggested.

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>>768476

considering we got fire, electric and steel, I want VOMS2 to be grass, water and wind

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>>766839
>floundering
why do people (or one singular moron) keep saying this? there's no indication that she was doing "poorly" by any metric, and it's not like any member of VOMS has to reach a certain quota or a certain amount of growth. TMSK is at 120k subs, which is not an appreciably greater sub count than Magnet when compared to Pikamee's 365k. Anyways, yes I subbed and watched her streams if I was awake at 5 AM, quite obviously unlike you

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>>768476
It'll be a newhalf and then we'll constantly be beset by tourists shitposting

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>>768531
>Nope. Its gonna be talked about daily until Gyari tells the fans why he fired Monoe.
unless it's talked about on twitter
or some other major platform then he's never going to say why. Honestly fuck gyari i don't care how fucking well respected he is. Yes I'm well aware that this is all regular protocol for any business to not disclose information and to say why they got fired in a broader sense(like simply saying she violated contract like she did). If anything enjoy the ride while you can and archive. Something is just fishy about this whole scenario especially since pika and tomo we're crying
unless it was fake tears but i seriously doubt that

>>768623
stop feeding the troll you fucking retard

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>>768080
Yeah and then her name gets dragged through the dirt. Look sometimes is better to leave things alone. VOMS seems super laid back so if she got fired, it was probably for good reasons.

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>>768551
Drinking age is 20 in Japan.

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>>766839
>Floundering
Lmao
Yeah
Ok retard

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>>768551
I don't believe that either. Even if she was, hiding your age and drinking seems like more of a slap on the wrist, "don't do another drinking stream thing". Not immediate firing

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>>768705
This. Look at Chris. If we didnt know why she was fired we'd probably be looking at her fondly like Aloe.

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>>768489
>tax season
Or maybe she just do some tax evasion or something like that?

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>>768723
If she was under 20 and drinking during productions then the company would be facing legal issues. If they can say she lied about her age and terminate her then they don't face anything.

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new rrat: monoe was being blackmailed and gyari fired her so he wouldn't have to deal with the drama

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>>768655
They were crying because they can't work with their friend anymore. Regardless of the reason, unless it was friendship-ending (and there's no indication it was), they're going to be sad.

>>768705
That's the conclusion I have to arrive at too. Her getting fired means it was something they couldn't ignore, but it was also not serious enough that she was immediately dropped. Gyari said they all talked about it and Pikamee said they knew this for a few days. It leaves a question of what exactly happened, but it's an unimportant question because the answer will not change the result (or might even make people dislike Monoe instead of feel bad for her.)

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>>766766
just fucking nuke the thread OP
just fucking do it
don't make a new one until this shit blows over

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So, anyone got the full archive of Jitomi yet? I see the 184.5gb torrent on nyaa which seems real but the delivery method is so counter productive. Is there some kind of aversion to having a mega ddl along with the torrent? Also, I don't think I've ever met or known a person that had room to download an over 150gb torrent from 1 source. Unless your stockpiling vtuber videos or not pirating other stuff, I don't see many people having 200gb free for these unexpected situations. It would be better to deliver them in chunks so more people get in instead of only a few. I would like to archive it but I don't think I'd be able to to do it if this is the only complete source there is out now.

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Fresh narrative straight from 5chan is Monoe roommate got into trouble with gyari after apparently facilitating technical knowledge related to voms project production to third parties without gyari’s knowledge, he had a meeting with all the voms last Friday and told them he was disappointed with them for acting like this behind his back and not consulting him (Pikamee apparently had at least some knowledge of what Monoe had been doing because such third parties were friends in common) Pikamee tried to convince both to talk it out but Monoe decided to leave on Wednesday, Tomoshika apparently didn’t have any role in this incident.

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>>768080
>not even allowed to say goodbye

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>>766839
People are coming in now because her channel is going to be possibly wiped clean.

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guys the real narrative is that I had a sex with her and she couldn't keep herself bragging about it to everyone

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>>768978
>he had a meeting with all the voms last Friday and told them he was disappointed with them for acting like this behind his back and not consulting him (Pikamee apparently had at least some knowledge of what Monoe had been doing because such third parties were friends in common) Pikamee tried to convince both to talk it out but Monoe decided to leave on Wednesday, Tomoshika apparently didn’t have any role in this incident.
How would anyone have this knowledge?

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>>768978
This is certainly interesting as a narrative but it's still "source: my ass" territory until proof provided.

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>>768902
There is no way I can accept the narrative that all of them discussed this in advance and knew it was coming days prior. It simply doesn't make any sense given schedules and planned collabs. That is obviously just something they are saying to protect monoe by making this seem less sudden and serious than it actually was.
GYARI obviously decided this on his own and caught everyone in VOMS off guard. What exactly happened is anyone's guess, but there's a bit more to this than meets the eye given the weird nature of the firing and subsequent announcement

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>>768969
>Is there some kind of aversion to having a mega
you don't know do you?
first
lurkmoar
second, mega has been cracking down on pirate mega repos
tons of shit on /h/ has been taken down recently
torrent monoes archive on your small 500gb shittly designed custom PC while you can.
I'm putting mine on an external

>>769029
>possibly
oh man that sucks for you i guess.
it's all already gone


>>768352
>bring up something completely unrelated
>literally admit openly like a retard that "HMM HE MAYBE HAS A POINT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE HMM??"
who are you quoting?

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>>769033
How big was her cock bro?

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new narrative monoe got fired because she fucked tmsk's brother

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>>769098
Bigger than mine. It was amazing.

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>>769050
>How would anyone have this knowledge
probably from someone that knows gyari or something
it sounds believable honestly but i doubt it's real

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>>769109
makes sense why tmsk was crying. her friend betrayed her
and pikamee was crying because she couldn't do it first

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New narrative. Pika fucked Monoe's little sister, Monoe found out, but Pika told GYARI to fire her so she couldn't come out with the knowledge

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>>768731
How do we know about the details of what happened to Chris? I don’t think Cover disclosed anything specific either.

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>>768099
>Pedo
She just likes loli right?

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https://youtu.be/hfbwuvZ77_I?t=3315
>Tokiya beat Getting Over It in an hour and he can't even celebrate it in a collab with Monoe (who took over 24 hours to do the same thing).
>That break down.
Fuck. That hurts.

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>>766839
This is your brain on holoslop, "floundering" lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

Wait is 4chan pro-weed or anti-weed? I forgot

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Even when the shock and drama blows over, this still has to be posted every thread

https://streamable.com/u11iwy

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>>769293
Of course, you don't think that word still has any meaning right?

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>>769348
Depends: Someone I like does weed? Fine, sure, not a big deal. Someone I hate does weed? Degenerate, sucks, go to prison for 20 years.

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>>769348
Whatever gets more (you)s in the given thread

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>>769348
Whichever generates the most (You)s at the given moment.

Personally stoners are trash and should be removed from the gene pool.

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>>769348
>4chan is one person

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>>768969
You can select individual streams in a torrent.

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>>769348
It's the same rule as if 4chan likes lgbt people. Whatever gets you more replies. Nobody has sincere opinions here anymore

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>>769413
True

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>>768387
>People are already eating the "Monoe did drugs" shit seriously,
At least make it more interesting than "she smoked weed lmao". How about "she was running a heroin smuggling operation out of her apartment and shooting up constantly"?

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>>769394
>2k views
Goddamn.

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>>769225
The dude she agreed to fuck leaked everything on twitter. He brags about doing shit like that to others as well.

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New voms member for anniversary! Leaf and water girl! Will you please forget about Monoe now, anon??

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>>769487
I am TMSK's brother
She actually was selling her merch with drugs hided on them

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>>769525
>anniversary!
It won't be that soon. New Voms are very possible now but probably not till summer at the earliest

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>>769525
Depends. Is it a girl or a Girl (Male)?

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>>769302
>audibly struggling to keep it together
>that mic mute
Shit...

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>>769085
Either that or they knew something was going on and talked together as a group about it but didn't expect the bird to drop the nuke in the way he did. Without speculating too much, it's either Monoe fucked up royally and simply calling this a contract breach was the best way to control damage, or what they said about all knowing was true and Gyari got pissed enough to just push the button without any further input from the other girls. Possibly finding out that they were hiding things from him.

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>>769487
imagine snorting coke out of monoe's asshole...

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>>768978
>'technical knowledge'
>Fucking VOMS
This rrat can't be it, VOMS does absolutely nothing 'technically' that isn't being done by literal who indie chuubas right now. The designs and rigging are simplistic by design, what the heck could you possibly leak that isn't common knowledge?

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>>769633
fuuuck, now i'm a magnetbro...

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>>769580
pika has already said that there wont be any new voms
do you even watch the streams?

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Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45U81qnQWK8

[Anonymous No.]

>>769663
>do you even watch the streams?
No. I'm just here to gawk.

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>>769663
She said Probably not, not never

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>>769668
im so lucky i downloaded this the day it released
it may get taken down super fast though on youtube

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>>769663
She said that when there were 3 VOMS

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>>769663
I don't remember hearing that in the announcement last night (but it's possible I did). If she said this before that video, then it literally means nothing right now because this was not foreseen.

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>>769348
It dependds on how based anon looks with the opinion

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>>769302
>>769628
>Even his outro music seems sad now that Monoe is gone.
It feels like she literally died, guys... Magnet... Why...

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>>769663
>>769709
He was having trouble with 3, but given the circumstances he might make it 4 members and keep it at that. We'll see. I can see some indie or smaller vtuber filling in the space of Magnet, but it'll be awkward for a lot of people involved. It also adds a nice 2 v 2 dynamic in team based games.

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>>766766
Rest in peace.
This group will not last the whole year.

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>>769787

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>>769709
she said there probably wont be a third member again
watch the streams

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>>769641
It's not so much that the information probably had any real super strategic value to the group, but the fact that apparently she decided to share this information without consulting them first, kinda like if one of your school teammates decided to share the finished project to one of his friends and not tell you.

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>>766766
Gyari confirmed for Bad Leader

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>>769787
>This group will not last the whole year.
This. They'll be gone in six months.

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>>768080
>The viewers have every right to know why someone they subbed and donated to got fired.
We really don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>769999
Quads of truth. What is it with streamfags and not knowing the meaning of "donation"?

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>>769787
Bros i dunno how ill live without the kettle. I might literally (figuratively) An Hero if it happens.

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>>770057
>>769787
>the last bastion of good vtubers will fade away..
this can't be real.... ;_;

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>>769856
If it was some Holo/Niji middle manager type sure but Gyari swinging his dick around because Monoe told someone about her rigging really doesn't fit his profile at all, based on how little he's been involved since designing the characters it doesn't seem like something he'd give even half a fuck about.

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>voms was originally going to be just pikamee
But sure keep doomposting

[Anonymous No.]

>/vt/ likes /voms/ now

[Anonymous No.]

>>770057
>>770089
Anon, Kettle used to work shitty jobs, she ain't gonna quit streaming. I hope she doesn't become a holofag though.

[Anonymous No.]

The next time Pikamee streams the chat is going to be a shitshow. She'll probably have to make it members only or turn it off entirely.

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>>770184
I don't think it'll be as bad as you say. Most of her fans who care about the situation likely would have seen the announcement video and will respect her wish to stop talking about it. The primary concern would be faggot trolls trying to stir shit, so mods will definitely have to work overtime.

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>>766869
fucking kek I guess shark meido was the one who banned him

[Anonymous No.]

>>769663
>pika has already said that there wont be any new voms
Welp, its over then. Will be looking forward to Pika in Holo JP6 or En2

[Anonymous No.]

>>770286
She's big enough to go just indie. Even without her current avatar I'm sure she'd do fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770229
>trolls trying to stir shit
I know I'm gonna be there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770184
If she opens with an audibly shaky OHAO I will definitely cry

[Anonymous No.]

>>770332
Same

[Anonymous No.]

>>770317
This. Pika would be crazy to go go to Holo, even if she only retained half her audience she'd still be blowing past practically every indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770386
If that ever happened, then I hope holoEN would be nice to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770139
go back

>>770184
more than likely

[Anonymous No.]

>>770332
>>770348
I mean you'll just get banned and Pikamee will most likely never read your comment, so... yay?

[Anonymous No.]

how do we know monoe's still alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>770437
you know they wouldnt
it's holoEN they're barely nice to each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>770478
She was as of the announcement videos but I hope they're keeping tabs on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>770478
Are you calling Pikamee a liar?

[Anonymous No.]

So are you fags going to autistically check every new vtuber to see who might sound like Monoe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>770547
WHAT IF GYARI PRETENDED TO BE MONOE AND LIED TO HER

[Anonymous No.]

>>770478
It would be in poor taste to say they fired her when in fact she's fucking dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>770463
But someone will.

[Anonymous No.]

So did we get any more info since last night?

[Anonymous No.]

>>770614
???
No one said they made the announcement because she died. I just asked if she's still alive, as in she hasn't jumped in front of a train yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770614
>they fired her when in fact she's fucking dead
That's the most American thing I've read all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770661
Absolutely nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>770480
I haven't kept up with much of the holodrama. Do the english members really not like one another or are they divided across certain lines or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>770703
No, it's not true. Don't feed the trolls or pay their rrats any attention, please.

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>>770463
It's called making an statement, fans deserve to know what happens to their virtual idols because the only reason they get any attention in the first place is because there are people heavily invested in them and you can't just fire one of them without reasonable explanation and pretend she never existed, fans demand and deserve a satisfactory explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770787
Okay? Take it up with GYARI then. Pikamee doesn't deserve to be harassed because of a decision out of her control, and she is not allowed to convey that information as she already stated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770480
I see you

[Anonymous No.]

>>770787
Imagine being this far up your own ass. Imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770815
stop trying to reason with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>770703
Anon, please don't believe anything you read about HoloEN's internal relationships, this board loves to hate them, especially Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770815
If she has information she has both a duty and an obligation to share it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770787
I get that but rendering Pikamee into a sobbing mess by posting "WHERE'S MONOE" every 5 seconds isn't going to get you any answers, just make things worse. Spam the VOMS business email or harass Gyari on Twitter enough and maybe he'll say something, Pika/Tomoshika aren't going to and can't say shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770900

[Anonymous No.]

No best of fat today... ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>770815
Though you are mostly right, Pika clearly stated her Gyari and Hikasa were all discussing the situation and consequences of Monoe's actions for multiple days, and they all had a say in the matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>770896
>>770785
Ok. I was skeptical of it, which is why I tried to ask any questions. I guess the rat couldn't put anything together before getting called out. Thanks for the info anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770703
Short answer, No
Long answer, not really. Gura is up on a pedestal and won't/isn't collabing with JP/ID. Kiara has a hard time learning the difference from being assertive and aggressive, and the rest of the girls are just sorta there, doing there own respective things

[Anonymous No.]

>>770909
>>770900
>Gyari tries to be nice to magnet by not spoiling dirty laundry
>autistic fans harass him and the other VOMS girls
>gyari spills the beans
>magnet really did fuck up
>magnet-fags reeeeeeeeeeeee
Y'know how they say never meet your idols and be careful what you wish for?

[Anonymous No.]

>VOMS literally created right after mom passed from blood cancer
>the midget trio helped me stay alive and not KMS

This hurts not even being able to say goodbye

[Anonymous No.]

>>770909
>rendering Pikamee into a sobbing mess by posting "WHERE'S MONOE" every 5 seconds isn't going to get you any answers, just make things worse
Why do you think I'm doing it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>770953
Fair enough, but the final decision always rested with GYARI. I highly doubt any rrat that either Pikamee or TMSK advocated for Monoe's removal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770990
It's more than that. If Gyari said why people would be mad that he said why. It's always like this. I can give you a bunch of different cases where this exact same thing happened. He did the best possible decision because even if she did fuck up something fierce she can get a job elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771008
Not based

[Anonymous No.]

>>770990
God i want to lick TMSK's entire abdominal region.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770602
>gyari killed monoe after finding out she was planning to blackmail him with secret photos she took while selling him drugs
>pikamee caught GYARI covering up the crime but since she could potentially be charged as an accomplice, and the fact she was giving monoe underaged children she can't do anything besides help GYARI with the cleanup
>both GYARI and pika tell tomoshika that monoe has done some shady dealings with other vtubers breaching contract and resulting in her immediate termination
>tomoshika doesn't buy this, tries to contact monoe but fails
>GYARI uses his mixing and production skills to make a monoe voice fake from chopped up streams
>tomoshika is satisfied after gyari calls her from monoe's phone using his voice fake
>GYARI later tells both pikamee and tomoshika how they should handle the firing and allows them to make an announcement, provided they stick partially to a script that he alleges will save monoes reputation, but actually just serves to distract and confuse the fans so when they do their own investigations they don't stumble onto GYARI's trail of blood
>pikamee, feeling guilty about the crimes she has committed, uses cleverly coded language to signal to the most autistic savant fans who might notice exactly what transpired
>over the next few days the truth will begin coming to light and everyone involved in VOMS (including the shadow management) save for tomoshika will likely be in prison

[Anonymous No.]

>>771008
very based

[Anonymous No.]

>>771008
cringe

[Anonymous No.]

I hear alot of peoope here say uts prolly drugs, and not to spread rrats but
What if this is the first case where a vtuber died?

[Anonymous No.]

Wake me up from this dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>771104
>"first case"
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>771104
??
Vtubers have died before, this wouldn't be the first time. And in none of these cases anyone was pretending that they were still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771104
Like five in Hololive.

Like 10 in Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771033
I guess these people have never worked in a professional setting. I don't even know it's entirely legal to say why you fired someone (in public or to non privy parties). I've seen people get fired, it's almost always that they fucked up and management was just doing PR.

>>771008
Pikamee probably has some kind of agreement where she can't even tell you. Are you that caught up in a vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>771067
Now we are reaching conspiracy levels we shouldn't be able to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>766839
the word is foundering and no floundering is not the right word just because google tells you it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>771104

ugoku chan...

[Anonymous No.]

>>771067
#TrustThePlan

[Anonymous No.]

>>770139
Of course, /voms/ was never that bad, it was a pretty cozy and funny group. But now its likely the other two will be constantly weighed down by their friend being kicked from their group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771104
That already happened. ugoku-chan committed suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771104
Many died before but Monoe didn't openly express wanting to leave or show signs of offline trouble. Also most channels die because of very low viewership

[Anonymous No.]

>>771180
>Pikamee probably has some kind of agreement where she can't even tell you
Most people don't talk about corporate affairs that don't immediately pertain to them either anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>767642
crocodile tears

[Anonymous No.]

>>767253
It felt familiar

[Anonymous No.]

>>767642
Probably, despite having a good cry during the announcement stream she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771279

at least pikamee and TMSK will be on the spotlight for a while now and get more attention/subs from new people, at least that is the only good I can see from this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>767923
like most other, she will "leak" her channel and twitter herself.

[Anonymous No.]

I got new source from my nippon friend.
Monoe was working at the fuzoku and Pikame ousted her to Gyari.

[Anonymous No.]

>monoe gets fired
>holotards: NOWS MY CHANCE TO SHOW HOW INTELLIGENT I AM
>tfw someone of them actually thing they're intelligent because they'll occasionally throw in good grammar into their post and try to project their how good their articulation is
>this still will never change the fact that they're actually masquerading as an intelligent person

[Anonymous No.]

Monoe had sex with her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771466
It's no surprise that the holo fanbase are always the problem in here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771466
>thing
think*
you know what i meant

[Anonymous No.]

>>771494
Lucky cunts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771494
As in banging a fan she wanted to meet, or solicited her sexual services with the context of anon banging Monoe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>771494
The economy is bad due to chinavirus, please understand. She needs money to survive, vtuber is not a sustainable.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45U81qnQWK8

PAIN

[Anonymous No.]

Monoe is dead and buried in my basement

[Anonymous No.]

>>770947
You can always do some reps anon, I'm watching Pika's okami playthrough.
/voms/ is gonna be a rrat hole for a while, remember to ignore and filter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771466
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>771494
>you could have had sex with magnet if you donated enough red supas
AHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>771529
>>771594
kek my personal rrat is that she did a JAV and it got found out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771627
>remember to ignore and filter
you're asking too much from the people that use this website
there are people that have been here for 13 years that don't even know how to tripcode

[Anonymous No.]

>>771529
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>766766
When is Artemis joining Voms? She's the obvious choice for replacing Monoe

[Anonymous No.]

>>771654
I also am horny whenever I see magnet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771654
JAV actress is a respectable occupation, there's nothing shame about it anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771704
gross

[Anonymous No.]

>>771297
ack i shouldnt have said first, my bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>771683
Just join reddit if you want to "FILTER" wrong speak, faggot, you can even downvote stuff that hurts your feeling there. 4chan is the epitome of chaos and that's what makes it fun here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771704
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>771723
Aren't most JAV actresses literally Yakuza sex slaves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>771787
Not all boards are /b/, /pol/ and /v/, friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771787
you replied to the wrong person jej
I was calling (You) retarded
think you meant to reply to >>771627

>4chan is the epitome of chaos
ouch dude you hurt me with your underage eczema
guess i better go buy some rope since you can't come up with good comebacks

[Anonymous No.]

>>771805
probably not, women wanting to get payed to pretend to enjoy sex is 1) easiest money 2)the very first profession

[Anonymous No.]

triggered
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>771805
>he belives this

[Anonymous No.]

>>771723
Yeah but what if she casually mentioned she was a vtuber? Actually maybe she started an onlyfans...

>>771718
She does have a nice model. But, also something like 1% of Japanese women have done JAV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771466
>>tfw someone of them actually thing they're intelligent because they'll occasionally throw in good grammar into their post and try to project their how good their articulation is
>and try to project their how good their articulation is
>>this still will never change the fact that they're actually masquerading as an intelligent person
Irony,

[Anonymous No.]

>>771704
you don't replace a trio. its either duo or death

[Anonymous No.]

>>771224
retard https://www.dictionary.com/browse/floundering

[Anonymous No.]

>>771915
yes that's the joke good thing you caught it

[Anonymous No.]

>>771794
You seem mad anon, are you alright?
Don't you like best girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>771805
Yes. You'd be a fool to not believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771787
>4chan is the epitome of chaos
Why are you here? Don't you have an encyclopedia dramatica entry to go fap to from how edgy and cool it is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>771976
>girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>771976
https://files.catbox.moe/s8a5dp.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

Take this shit elsewhere and stop giving these political derail trolls (You)s. Filter their damn buzzwords if you have to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771895
I feel like if she actually does have something like an onlyfans, some autists on 5ch would have noticed long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772090
i fucking kekked

[Anonymous No.]

I'm calling it now, the VOMS project will not last another 6 months. No doubt Pika and TMSK feel threatened by their company's willing to axe one of their three talents. I wouldn't be surprised if they are exploring their options at the moment. All it would take would be for one of the other girls to quit. If that happens then their company would likely not see the point in continuing the project with a single member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771787
https://voca.ro/14opAGH1YJFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>770139
Pikamee was probably the most discussed non-hololive member on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>771704
If whatever got magnet fired was "severe", Artemis' sole existence would get him beheaded the moment he sets foot in Japanese soil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>766839
are you fucking new? Magnet has always been popular on /vyt/, moreso than Pikamee

[Anonymous No.]

>>771915
>Be me
>Be not the guy you replied to
>Actually speak with stilted language IRL because probably on the spectrum
>Talk like that on the internet
>Everyone who reads what I say online says I'm CLEARLY putting on an act and trying to sound artificially smart and sophisticated when in reality it's just how I talk
I like big words, fucking sue me

[Anonymous No.]

>>772130
I'll give you a hotter take.

The VOMS project will disband before it reaches the anniversary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772130
This is more than likely going to happen. GYARI was cool when he was doing just vocaloid shit with his own instrumentals over it. VOMS is really showing how much of a shitty person he is

[Anonymous No.]

>>771704
>She

[Anonymous No.]

>>771959
oh look right on time a moron who thinks that the word is floundering and not foundering because they know flounder is a fish and it sounds like something that is weak and failing
fucking morons
the word is foundering, learn english pajeet

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
oh man
screenshotting your post for later

[Anonymous No.]

>>772045
Did I stutter?
Artemis is best girl, and that's the truth, and she would fit the mold of Voms if she joined with her color scheme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
Please. No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771466

go back to being banned tribal watameposter

[Anonymous No.]

My condolences magnetbros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772246
They're both words, and have different meanings. To founder is to fail and to flounder is to struggle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772231
By firing an employee who breached contract?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772246
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/flounder?q=floundering

[Anonymous No.]

>>772293
i'm gonna cum on you

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
This could actually cause a huge breakdown in the global vtuber community. Pikamee is by far the most well known indie and beloved by almost everyone. If VOMS falls apart, how can you trust anyone in the medium?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
I hope there's somebody or a group of people already archiving pikamee and TMSK's streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772246
>foundering
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flounder
either fucking way both of you are wrong in some respect

>>772297
no, i don't care about grammar on Mongolian throat singing forum and the people that do are trying to seem intelligent for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772231
Dude Gyari from what we know was incredibly hands off with VOMS. I know you want to support the magnet but it seems to be the case that she did something really bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the funniest ratt so far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772419
Her magnetism caused that earthquake to happen a few days ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>772368
>Struggling
>I.e. continuing, albeit with problems
>Vs foundering
>A ship sinking i.e. not being able to stay afloat, thus completely failing
Nah, not the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>772414
either way i'm not asking him to tell us
i just think it's very dickish to announce that she broke contract and chance ruining her auditioning and applying elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772414
I know, that's the worst part. My defense mechanism is to be angry but if I don't have anyone to be angry at, I don't have any other choice but to be sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>766839
>>766895
Oof, starting the thread with a troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
TMSK isnt going to last long and VOMS isnt going to get any more members. Shits done

[Anonymous No.]

>>772458
Alright, that's the one I'm going with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772482
you're actually right it is foundering as it would be the equivalent to collapsing

[Anonymous No.]

>>772482
Floundering is used in the right context here >>766839 foundering is not correct in this particular context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
This is horrifically bleak. The general population of vtuber fans like Pikamee, what's going to happen if VOMS goes belly up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772526
>TMSK isnt going to last long

I mean, her first stream is going to be nothing but questions about Monoe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771787
>4chan is the epitome of chaos!
He screams as he has all his posts removed by jannies and gets banned for posting CP on a blue board

[Anonymous No.]

>>772414
This is why the fallout from this will be bigger than VOMS. When the most lax dude in the industry can abruptly retire you, why would anyone join a bigger group for the promise of numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

it hurts

[Anonymous No.]

>>772574
Gyari goes back to making songs with other vtubers?

https://youtu.be/ZnfHNU6iej4

[Anonymous No.]

>>772560
no it's not you fucking retard
holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>772356
>>772231
This could also simply be their way of getting out of the vtuber business. If you are able to fire all your employees for breach of contract, then they don't have to deal with the potential legal backlash that you would get if you fired them for no reason. Things like moral causes in contracts are left up to employer interpretation and are often used for this purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>767428
Seeing happy Pika talk about more VOMS just makes me sad again...

[Anonymous No.]

>>766766
Is it true that the magnet girl got fired for having a bf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772638
Yes it fucking is, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772591
The tourists make it too damn easy to spot them with how they treat this place as the "wild west" of the Internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772674
That should have been pika.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772684
no it's not holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>772488
He easily could've said what she did to breach contract, that would have been far worse for her if she auditions again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772638
Foundering is for ships, I never heard it used for anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>766839
What's or who's monoe?

>>766869
What's voms?

>>767642
about what?

I'm only asking, because I just about now found out this place really made a board for V-Tubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771787
Perhaps a tad bit over a decade ago. Nowadays is just filled with actual retarded people who think they're in good company because those who regularly browse this shit hole behaved like retards on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772638
>>772712
It asks the question to these sudden Monoe fans why they weren't around when her channel was the least popular of the three.

>to struggle clumsily or helplessly:
>He floundered helplessly on the first day of his new job.

Floundering 100% fits better than foundering in that context. Holy shit you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772745
these are the only two definitions of flounder in the dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>772642
If he wants out of the business so bad, why wouldn't he just give 'em the characters and let them go? Doesn't he already let them keep the stream revenue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772782
monoe didn't fucking stuggle at all though

[Anonymous No.]

>>772621
This is pretty fucking good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>766869
Fuck this guy for infesting my comfy VOMs thread with rrats and doomposters...

[Anonymous No.]

>>772772
Just stay in your Holothreads retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772848
Just explaining the context of that sentence to the retard that keeps insisting on using foundering instead of floundering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772848
Anything below 500k subs is struggling for Holofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772155
I'm crying

[Anonymous No.]

>>772903
ok you autist
if she's floundering then TMSK is floundering as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>772943
Congratulations. You just outed yourself, Holofag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772992
Maybe a little but not as bad as Monoe

[Anonymous No.]

I guess one thing out of this is hearing Pika's natural voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>773031
they both had 100k
stop backtracking

[Anonymous No.]

So now that Monoe is gone, can we please cancel Pika next? This pa*doshit is not in the least bit funny and it's fucking insane that she's not getting called out for it. If she's into that vile stuff, then for the sake of the kids she needs to leave, permanently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>773062
leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>773031
I preferred it to stay that way. Have you seen Hololive streams? They're cancerous and full of actual sociopaths. magnet streams were always chill. Even the most horny of fans kept their horniness out of the chat.

[Anonymous No.]

why are we fighting in the first place
are we really gonna let holotards fucking divide us up like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>773056
Not him, and I don't know much about YT economics, but she did have some pretty meh views. My realistically rrat is that she probably wanted to try something to make extra money and it conflicted with her contract.

I'm not a magnetfag, but I hope that whatever she did wasn't as bad as it appears and she's able to find something else to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>773164
Everyone is looking down on you VOMS losers. Your Vtubers are a boring nobody, a drug addict and a literal pedophile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>773164
Are we being divided? All I see is holoshitters dividing themselves in our threads. There's not a single narrative brought up so far that's backed by anything concrete. This'll pass when they get bored.

[Anonymous No.]

so archivechads did you succeed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772993
That's funny considering I usually get called chink by them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>768225
Buddha killed Narukami and Buddha is a moron who only cares about Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>773246
>Your Vtubers are a boring nobody, a drug addict and a literal pedophile.
why are you on this side of the website?
You have made a bold yet very much so hypocritical statement

[Anonymous No.]

>>773333
quads do not lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>767376
she just hasn't done an english-focused stream in a while, don't worry, she has spoken it for years

[Anonymous No.]

I miss her so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>771067
>and the fact she was giving monoe underaged children
¿Qué?

[Anonymous No.]

>>772160
to the point where we needed to make a "free pikamee post in /hlg/" image, and even then some

[Anonymous No.]

It's a real pity, Monoe is one of the few Chubas who embraced /tg/ stuff. Then again that could be why she was fired if the company that made the RPG she used got shitty at VOMs

[Anonymous No.]

I wasnt even a monoe fan, but the pain this has caused everyone who knew her hurts me too. This entire day has had me feeling like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772215
>>772130
you guys are fucking retards repeating this shitty take every new voms thread, bet you so much you're hololive global reddit grifters
heres your fucking truthpost: pikamee and tmsk are and have been great friends with gyari since the start of the voms project, and with pikamee saying they knew about this days ago and tmsk said there was agreement among the three that she had to go, implies they gave monoe all the chance in the world to likely stop whatever she might have been actively doing. the sudden end of monoe is likely due to gyari noticing monoe hadn't budged

[Anonymous No.]

>>766839
pikamee is too high energy for me so I always watch monoe's streams because she's pretty chill and laidback, even during her 24hr getting over it endurance stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>772130
I mean, it probably would be smart to look into other options, problem is pika is kinda well known enough that if she re-debuted under a new persona at a new company, she'd either be too recognisable as pika, or not recognisable enough. Not that it hurt Gura, but it would be weird not calling her Pika any more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>773881
>had to go, implies
nice comma splice, tell me more about how big your brain is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>774053
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>772090
Man someone really wasted a god-tier design on someone with a voice like Artemis's huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>774171
no
now have magnet

[Anonymous No.]

>>774370
shit forgot the link jej
https://twitter.com/i/status/1277292968093741056

[Anonymous No.]

>>766839
>where were you guys when her channel was floundering?
I was there occasionally commenting on her channel and making timestamps because she was very clippable. Did not participate in her TRPG streams, but that's mostly because of getting filtered hard by the language barrier more than lack of interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770139
>falseflagging as a flare fan and a newfag
incredible

[Anonymous No.]

>>772621
This rules holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>772621
>>772853
>>774691

https://twitter.com/_lLunchboxl/status/1362917764281692160

[Anonymous No.]

>>774416
We truly didn't realize what we had until we lost it.
Thanks. This encouraged me to drink another bottle.

[Anonymous No.]

did anyone with membership get the chance to see this?

https://web.archive.org/web/20210219092632if_/https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugy5nW0NFyNLI9FO9uZ4AaABCQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>774014
so? When Hero reincarnated as Chigusa, everyone knew it was her. She didn't even try to hide it with how similiar her design was to when she was Hero. There weren't any problems with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>773045
Too bad she had to cry for us to hear it

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like the smartest thing pikamee/tomoshika could do is leave the chat as usual for their first stream back but not have it on screen and make up some BS about it being late and having to read the SC's at a later date (you know, to screen them) so all the dramawhores and people that don't fucking listen when they say to not bring it up can get it outta their system, and then crack down hard on it afterwards

[Anonymous No.]

>>774416

[Anonymous No.]

>>773045
She uses it on her first few streams too, before she had the high energy 'character' down. Damn shame to have it return in this context though.

[Anonymous No.]

>drug trafficking
>leaking company secrets
>sex scandal
>suicide cover up
All of you are fucking idiots, she simply wasn't trying hard enough and didn't meet the group set goals so she was fired, it's really not that complicated, stop coming with idiotic narratives and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>768476
I don't care, Monoe is gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>772691
This. You can say shit that would get you crucified elsewhere and get away with it, and the redditfags instantly think that means that they're entitled to post whatever the fuck they want even when the board has rules saying "don't do x", and act like this place is full of psychotic geniuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>770057
If VOMS disbands, she can ask Gyari for the model and stay indie. That's preferable than her joining HoloSanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>775066
breach of contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>773881
There's literally no way Monoe left after 'an agreement among the three', you're out of your fucking mind if you believe that horseshit. That's just corporate lingo for 'guy in charge told his subordinates what's going on'. It was a 100% Gyari call for better or worse, what do you think would have happened if Pika and Tomishika told him to shove the project up his ass? Don't think too hard.

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>>775066
Smuggling kinder eggs into America

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>>771976
Please leave.

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>>775217
Pretty sure being a slacker is considered a breach of contract

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>>775066
While the narratives are painfully stupid, that explanation doesn't quite add up either. You're assuming that
>there was a minimum threshold for performance and income
>she was far enough below it that it could not be excused
>firing her would make more money/improve VOMS in any way whatsoever
You realize just how stupid it would be business-wise to fire her for "underperformance" right? With that theory, what was it costing the organization to keep her around? Even if we were to assume they were being paid a set salary, you mean to imply she wasn't making more in memberships and superchats to outweigh that hypothetical salary? The only explanations that make sense at the moment are extreme. That's not to say it's drug trafficking or some shit, but it wouldn't make any sense for this to be caused by something relatively benign.

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>>775377
gyari let them keep their own superchats for their own profit
this isnt hololive not everything works like hololive

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>>772628
Too much soul, I'm actually calming down.

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>>775293
You do not get suddenly erased from the entire group a month before their anniversary, leaving your colleagues crying and with terminally low morale and the group's fans bewildered, for not streaming frequently enough. That would be post-Konami levels of destroying your own business to spite your employees. Even in the very unlikely event that there was any kind of enforced level of activity, there would be absolutely no reason to not have her wind down and graduate on normal terms instead of immediately erasing all trace of her.

Of all the possible explanations for what happens, yours is the absolute dumbest.

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Bros...

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>>775293
This narrative is automatically void because under that logic, Tomoshika would get the axe before Monoe.
>but she has 20k more subs
Doesn't mean shit.

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>>775507
You're absolutely right, and that goes back to my point. For her to be fired for underperformance, under any sane reasoning, she must be causing more harm to the organization (financially or otherwise) than good. It implies that there is a cost to keeping her around and she wasn't paying it. This isn't Hololive, what would it cost financially to keep her around? Do they need support? Is it additional labor that needs to be compensated? Given the VOMS business process, I can only imagine she was bring far, far more revenue than she costed the org by existing. Not only that, consider how Monoe leaving harms the other two girls, and the org structure as a whole. Something severe must have happened, it's the only answer that makes any sense whatsoever.

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>>772621
>>774416
>>774743
>>775581
Wherever she is, I hope life takes care of her.
Goodbye, Monoe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP78tR64gxQ

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>>775066
I'm pretty sure when most people say "drugs" they aren't implying she was going full Breaking Bad or some shit. It's not exactly a secret that Japan is hard as fuck against drug use and even something as simple as recreational weed smoking can end a career. Usually speaking, when someone says it was probably drugs they aren't digging for some delicious rrat that'll feed the shitpost machine. They're trying to find one of the few rational reasons something like this happened.

The only real facts we have, assuming you take what's been said at face value (both in the last day and in general) are that GYARI is generally laissez-faire about the whole managerial side of things, the other girls are still friends with Monoe and are heartbroken that it's had to end this way, this was due to an issue that's been going on for a while, and the decision was made days in advance.

The business model of VOMS doesn't really leave much room for this to be about corporate politics/fraud, so it's almost inevitably an issue with Monoe's character as a person yet an issue that the rest were willing to either overlook or try to help her overcome until now.

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>>775066
>>775377
There's no organization, this is group, not a formal company, that's also why they didn't have to beg for permissions or anything.

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>>775854
becareful the holotards might start screeching shit like "why is it called VOMS"
they've derailed this whole thread from the get go

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>>775066
>she simply wasn't trying hard enough and didn't meet the group set goals
Tomoshika earns less than her. What are you talking about?

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>>772745
Going by that logic, a person could never experience burnout because they're not an engine, nor are they equipped with tires. Are you seriously trying to suggest that "foundering" couldn't be used metaphorically because a person isn't literally a ship?

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>>775822
Not available. What Moby song is it bro

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WE HAVE ACTIVITY COMING SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LlqWhHGLuA
Please support TMSK

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>>776762
Porcelain

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>>776764
The comments are gonna be fun.

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>>776764
naaaisu

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>>776764
Well, I'm still hurt about Monoe, but this looks like it'll be a good stream. I guess I can't stay sad forever.

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>>772815
You can really just give them the characters. You'd have to go through the time and paper work of transferring the IP to them. The reason being that if you don't "protect" you IP it can fuck you over later on if people break your copyright. This is also likely the same reason Hololive CN was originally told they would be able to keep their characters but in the end hololive held on to them.

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>>776764
do you think she'll cry? place your bets

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>>776956
Chat is going to be mean. At least EOPs.
Hopefully they turn it off.

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>>776314
That's one of the dumber rrats. Afaik, Gyari just lets them do whatever and does art, bgm, and merch for them. I'm not saying that isn't work, but realistically speaking he probably makes enough off Pikamee to not really care if TMSK or Magnet were underperforming.

At the end of the day, she must have done something pretty serious, even if it isn't serious by Western standards, like smoking pot. It could just be the case she had a bad habit, they hoped she could deal with it, and she couldn't. I genuinely wish her the best of luck.

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>>776903
>The reason being that if you don't "protect" you IP it can fuck you over later on if people break your copyright.

No, it can't. Genericide is something that happens to trademarks, not copyrights.

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>>776956
if chat is on at all, yes

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Hololive would NEVER.

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I'm a bit slow to the news. My condolences. I can only image how much it'd hurt if I lost my oshi.

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>>771312
Hearing Nene cry was rough, now with Pikamee too it just sucks. At least gen 5 had senpais.

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At least MonoeBros got a taste of what us Aloefags went through. Sucks even more for me tho since im into Aloe AND Voms.

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No more Life MoRoTomo collabs. They were all great together.

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no announcement from monoe herself, no goodbye stream, nothing... gone forever in the blink of an eye. I just don't get it. why was this so abrupt and unforgiving?

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https://twitter.com/GYARI_/status/1362971050447831040

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>>775293
Gyari didn't impose livestream quotas. It was something worse

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>>776974
You put too much faith on the japs. Both sides of the fanbase can be extremelly awful.
It fucking sucks but fanbases tend to be retarded, even worse on the entertainment industry, I mean shit like TMZ exists for a reason, people always want blood. I expect either member-only chat, slow mode, or mods going all out and deleting anything that could lead to this issue.

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>>776974
>>778170
I want to personally punch the retards who are inevitably going to ask stupid questions the girls can't answer and don't want to think about in the fucking teeth

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>>778131
well, that's good at least. makes me wonder why they nuked her channel outright though instead of either leaving it as an archive or even just putting things as unlisted (instead of private)

>>778164
technically there is a quota but it's literally just once a week (and I might be wrong on that even but it's just what I've always heard thrown around)

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>>778131
So her collabs on other channels are safe, at least until they delete their channel for some random reason. Seems like GYARI doesn't want to burn her too bad.

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any developments from 5ch?

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I'm not looking forward to when Pika does her first stream back and the SS Nice Boat is replaced with a disclaimer to not bring up unnecessary subjects or something like that

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>>778131
Tl;dr
>clips are fine
>no issue in making fanart/doujins
That's nice
>>778230
>makes me wonder why they nuked her channel outright though instead of either leaving it as an archive
No clue, maybe some japanese copyright issue, contract issues or the such. GYARI seems fine letting people keeping Monoe's clips and fanart.

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>Pikamee starts streaming
>fuckton of people are bringing up Monoe and trying to "comfort" Pika
>Pika ends the stream early because people wont shut up about it
Im calling it. Wont be as bad for TMSK since majority of her comments are in jap

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>>778566
>Wont be as bad for TMSK since majority of her comments are in jap
do people really think the Japanese side of the VOMS audience won't be just as bad in this regard?

Pika might get it worse because of sheer volume but not because of the nationality of the audience

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>>778566
I don't even see why EOPs will comment about Monoe, most of them probably didn't even watch her.

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>>778566
>>778630
I can almost guarantee that Tomoshikas stream will be overrun with monoe fans, pika fans, and her own crowd because this is a pretty big deal and i dont think people are going to wait for pika, she even canceled a collab she had planned.

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>>778664
because this event made pika cry, EOPs care about that

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>>778566
it'll be a bunch of people overreacting to the few monoe comments and making them impossible to ignore
just like dealing with shitposters here

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I want to lick pika! I want to sniff pika's butt! I want pika's chubby butt on my face! I want pika to say "iine iine" as she rubs my cock! I want to pound pika's ass and listen to her wheeze!

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>>778908
not now, you baka!

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>>778908
but would you do it while she's crying about her dead friend?

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>>778931
Nothing will stop me from ritual posting. This is the time to go about our business and support the girls like we always do.

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>>772606
because they have no interest in breaching contracts, Hololive is the way worse example

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>>778987
easy for you to say. my girl is dead

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>>778931
we need this now more than ever

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>>778908
based

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>>778745
Doesn't help that her announcement stream is now one of her most viewed. This is attracting people who never heard of VOMS before.

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>>779036
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.

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https://twitter.com/GYARI_/status/1362971050447831040

SHE LIVES ON

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If I never hear pika legitimately cry again it will be too soon.

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>>779164
not quite

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>>778566
There's also the inevitable comments asking why Monoe disappeared all of a sudden from people living under a rock.

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>>779164
It's nice that he allows that. No way GYARI would force Tokiya or Mito to delete the collabs they had with Monoe. They really enjoyed having collabs with her. Would just cause bad blood, really.

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>>779164
She's getting replaced

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>>779258
yeah as if there isn't some already...

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>>779283
There isn't, stop your rrats.

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>>779283
...There isn't, rrat.

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>>776903
Okay so imagine you let Pikamee keep using the character after you end your affiliation with Pika's actor. Then months later someone starts selling unlicensed Pikamee merchandise or starts using Pikamee is marketing without your or Pikamee's actors permission. Pika's actor can do anything because she doesn't own the character. You take the offending party to court for using your IP and they claim that you abandoned the IP because you allowed someone else to utilize it without licensing. You're likely to win you court case but its still a huge headache and a waste of time and money. This happens with different IPs all the time.

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>>779039
Exactly

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>>779429
This was meant for this
>>777063

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>>779283
Gyari did nothing wrong. Voms was his passion project. He had every incentive to cover for magnet. What appears to have happened was that magnet did something the company itself could be held legally liable for if Gyari gave her a free pass. Firing her immediately was done to protect the other 2 voms, while the details were kept private to protect monoe's future career.

It's tragic, but ultimately this appears to have been magnet fucking up so bad that even her comrades couldn't protect her. That's why she gracefully stepped aside while Gyari and the girls she'd tears over her departure. She'll likely redebut as an indy but her career is basically dead in the water for a few years as she works to regain her honor. Monoe's redemption arc begins now.

Maybe in a few years magnet will make a triumphant comeback in a remotely popular agency. Maybe not. But if any agency decides to dumpster dive, magnet and the ceo of sex would be solid pickups if they could be wrangled into behaving themselves.

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https://twitter.com/aimusu1208/status/1362960559231012865
>VOMS Alternative

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>>779959
The prospects don't look very good if you got fired for fucking up from a place with such loose rules.
The best case would be if no one can recognize who she was previously.

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>>780299
Is this gonna be a mini movie about VOMS's first anniversary?

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>>780299
well this is going to both be awkward and sad