Seems like Hololive is not that great

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara commented on stream about how much freedom the Vshojo girls have compared to holos when it comes to content and what games she can play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5pj1wqi7oI

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking knew some faggot ass clipper was gonna make a shit thumbnail about this.
SHE LITERALLY TALKS ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES HOLOLIVE GIVES HER THAT NO OTHER COMPANY CAN AND HOW SHE PREFERS IT
SHE WAS JUST SAYING VSHOJO IS BASICALLY A GROUP OF INDIES WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL SAY
CLIPPERS DESERVE THE ROPE

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Vshojo is simply the best vtuber group and company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Vesper was right.
Fuck perms bullshit
Fuck idolshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Why every bait always from #? Are numbernigger really the parasite in Vtubing community?

[Anonymous No.]

>Vshojo
>vtuber
anon ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
It really is going to be another shitposting angle entirely carried by the clip's thumbnail, huh? I mean, I guess it works, since if that Bijou clip is anything to go by, people don't actually watch the clips linked in these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Quit then

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Talent freedom was actually real lol, preparing to jump ship? She has done everything she wanted to do as a holo already

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Holy shit a Kiara bait thread?
What a fresh sight on /vt/ - Virtual YouTubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398131
Hey, maybe you should stop click bating with your shitty clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
kys retard
>>76398131
>open thread
>tell OP to kill himself
>close thread
this is the only appropriate response to threads like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
She literally says that Hololive is superior. Also the tangent was about Phase (Panko mention caused it) but Kiara doesn't even know what that corpo is called so she used Vshojo as a proxy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520

[Anonymous No.]

>Says Hololive is just better
Sasuga clipnigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Didn't watch, don't actually care for the context but i do know kiara deserves to be in vshojo. That is all

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Uh oh...

[Anonymous No.]

I've tried watching vshojo and just feel like another bro-ish environment. Why would I watch a women when I can just watch a dude who is better for that environment. I just like the uniqueness of hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo is barely a company, they holy hire specific people and never let in randoms.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara stays in Hololive only for the money and would rather be in Vshojo
>Mori stays in Hololive only for the money and would rather be in Vshojo
>Kronii stays in Hololive only for the money and would rather be in Vshojo
THEY. ARE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
total clipper death

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
kys clip faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398292
do you have the same attitude when it's the 10th millie/enna/elira post of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399125
Anons have just gotten tired of Kiara threads, probably from that entire orange board period, and still haven't recovered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398003
I don't think anyone disagreed with him regarding those subjects.
Japanese business is dumb as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

bait thread bad!
post chicken woman tits instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398973
When has Kiara ever cosplayed a Vshojo member? She cosplayed Fubuki way before Hololive was as big as it was now. She’s a Hololive fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399211
well they can just fucking deal with it if they don't want to give up their nijispam. sounds fair to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398973
>THEY. ARE.
...KANGS?

[Anonymous No.]

Based or not based? There's quite a few comments like this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399412
>Doxxshit
Kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399356
Agreed!

[Anonymous No.]

You are not allowed to criticize hololive!!! Corporations are your God!! Stop NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
Based, Kiara isn't the only EN to have cliptards do this the most recent example being Bijou. You're always morally correct to call out cliptards when they do shit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Kill every clipfag
Stomp out every clipfag
Don’t let them breed

[Anonymous No.]

holos shouldn't have to do with clipfags like this and neither should nijis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
>engaging with a clipper
>at all
cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398973
Professionals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399412
Kill yourself fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
Based for calling a clipper out, but also cringe for engaging with them in the first place though I guess some randoms have nothing to lose from doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
Based. Any clipper fag that does drama baiting intentionally needs to die, no matter which chuuba they are baiting about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
>>76398205
>>76398206
>>76398666
>>76398764
>>76398973
It's literally the clipper trying to bait for views
"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it. Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things. There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to, sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it."
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399853
is that so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
Clippers deserve to be called out for being shit, they're responsible for part of a talent's image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Is she saying this because Advent is rapidly overshadowing the other ENs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399933
Yea, even that thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400092
then cheers to that. death to all tribeniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
kek reminds me the first time Kiara collabed with Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399356

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399912
Small corpos and indies BTFO
Captcha: YSJP

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive is great if you like structure.
Vshojo is great if you like spontaneity.
Nijisanji is great if you like abuse.

[Anonymous No.]

Is he right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399412
Kiara was the first holo ever to collab with Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400171
i'm a vshojo oldfag and I don't remember that collab seeming as forced as this portrayals. I mean you could definitely tell nyan was on her best behavior but it didn't seem like she had a gun to her head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
veeeshoujou!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400498
vcuckshitoujououou*

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400477
> on her best behavior
Nooo that's a restriction of her freedom!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400551
veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehohohohoshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhonjououou

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

you know i just realized something
there are lots of corps with pee in the name. pee see gee, pee kay gee, pee-rism, but the corp actually known for its chuubas peeing, idol, has no pee in the name. what fucking gives?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay what's happening with NijiEN now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
Absolutely, Hololive has no slots

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
He sounds very not mad that's for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
>this thread is shitting on the clipper
>/hlgg/ is shitting on the clipper
>/#/ is shitting on the clipper
>/vsj/ is seething at Kiara for making fun of them
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400705
why do you drones all deflect in the exact same way

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400592
Ugh this is why feminism is a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400422
Hololive is not great

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
Most of vsj wish they were more slotty, but unfortunately they are mostly not. Clippers as always can go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400713
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400744
>/vsj/ is seething at Kiara for making fun of them
No we're not. We're talking about her ass and Austrians being German.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
She should graduate and join VShoujo then

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
and why did she think it was necessary to make this statement public? Like what is even the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>makes a bait thread with a clip thumbnail
>actually links the clip which reveals the misleading framing
If you would have posted the thumbnail without any link or context, you wouldn't have been btfo'd so quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400744
>>/vsj/ is seething at Kiara for making fun of them
All I see is people laughing at >>76400429 that guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400880
What’s wrong with saying Hololive is better? Does that make you mad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400744
>seething
Kiara is a long time vshojo friend why would we be mad at her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
I'm glad I'm not this autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400880
she has freedom to do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400713
This is why I hate JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400744
Which post? >>76397997
Please quote them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
Cope

2020

:^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400955
silver had the freedom to play harry potter, doesn't mean it's a good idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399912
>using AI bots to cope with what she really said

KWAB

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
>slots

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401079
It's okay when Hololive does it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Listing advantages like "we are getting to perform on big stages and stuff" that's it? LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
kys thumbnailreder tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400171
A bet a Kiara and Vei collab would have been more interesting. I'm sure Vei would have said something that would have riled a ton of people up though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400880
>>76400865
>>76400078
>>76399597
>>76401071
>>76401019
"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it. Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things. There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to, sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it."
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401193
>>76399271

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401079
Idol culture, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398003
You have to be literally retarded to check out hololive, see that they are into all that already (the idol thing), know about the perms autism even beforehand, and STILL apply and get into hololive just so you could bitch about it.
Vesper is honestly one of the dumbest motherfuckers out there.
If he spent even 5 minutes doing some research he would know what he was getting himself into. But he probably thought he can get in and be a rebel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401238
Sounds kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401238
Vei is the complete opposite of Kiara tho. She hates idol culture, can't sing for shit, likes men, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399912
>>76401272
Settle down okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401308
Vshojo top idol company

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Paused the clip one second in, reported it for misinformation, liked comments calling out the clipper. My job is done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401290
What about it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401290
anon is multi-thread baiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398973
>Kronii
>mentioning any other corpo ever
I know the people who post in these threads would die watching a stream and get allergic reactions from clips but damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401079
>>76401151
>girl fucks around in 3D and provides some fan service
vs
>iron mouse once saying that she got cum in her eye
hmmmmm i wonder which one is worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401383
You can't tell me he's not this >>76400429 dude kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401071
I specifically wrote it out because some people are too lazy to click links and I don't want that fag to get views anyway
>>76401272
You can just link my post anon but I appreciate it *chu*

[Anonymous No.]

God, I wish she moves to Vshojo sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400930
She was actually highliting the main distinctive positive aspects each company has and the other lacks. The issue is, in the case of Vshojo she speaks of creative freedom, which is a product of its policies as a company. In the case of Hololive she talks about the possibility of being part of much bigger projects, the issue with that is that this is a concequence of Hololive being a much bigger company than Vshojo, it is something that happens to be the case due to the company historic growth. Meaning that in reality Kiara is actually speaking poorly of Hololive by comparing it with Vshojo.
>In Hololive you have less creative freedom than in Vshojo, however because Vshojo is much smaller than Hololive, the projects that you can be part of there are also much smaller (aka money you get)

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401364
Omega told a completely different thing on what to expect with being holostars. They probably got promised collabs with hololive talents to grow their audience but fell flat later down the line. You'll see this on notMagni's rant with not being given a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
Now that's cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
>mental gymnast veteran

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401489
Watch Kuro's debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
That’s a weird way to say she said Hololive is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401592
Hey, my grammar is better than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
>Hololive is more popular because most people don't want to watch literal whores
Could have just said this part without all the other shit you posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401238
Vei did say something that riled everybody up. She shit talked holo and then got the collab canceled.

Dumb bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401906
most holos are watched because of their blue dorito and would be unceremoniously dumped without them

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401790
Better if you want to make money, but sucks due to the lack of creative freedom
It is not that hard to spot that Kiara is actually bitching about Hololive in a very subtle manner

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401729
>Noooooo they should have changed their business model to nijisanji's for magtard and vesperfaggot!!!!!!!
Remind me how nijiEN is doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402028
creative freedom to sleep on stream and react to youtube videos
how awful

>>76402003
blue dorito is a seal of high quality entertainer
no dorito = most likely a talentless whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
> Creative freedom
Since when has the choice of games to stream limit the creativity and personality of a person

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402028
You’re delusional. Seeing what you want to see. They have creative freedom, they just have extra steps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402003
>People love the hololive restrictions because women can't be trusted with freedom
No shit. Look at what happened to kson's content and her numbers now. Nobody wants to watch that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
Hololive doesn't have any positives vshojo doesn't have. Kiara is just coping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402121
>react stream
this isn't the own you think it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402114
>creative freedom to sleep on stream and react to youtube videos
Well given that Kiara is higlighting their creative freedom, that might be her dream content

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Then maybe Kiara should leave Hololive for Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402121
Ask Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402235
Literally just game perms or getting certain song and dance perms easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401564
one doesn't pretend to be an idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402221
That's not a react stream though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
>>76402028

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402235
What Kiara is highlighting is that "freedom" is too big of a word to use in that case because in reality the benefit is smaller than the word implies you retarded thread reader. You're too fucking stupid to even listen to the clip you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402331
Yeah they don't pretend, they ARE idols. They do fanservice because they want to make their fans happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402121
>creativity
>post a chuba who stream the same game since she debuted

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402414
Shhhh. He can’t think that deeply. Even an ESL like Kiara has more nuance than his monkey brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402414
Are you ok sister? You sound a bit triggered

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402235
"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it. Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things. There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to, sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it."
>"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic

[Anonymous No.]

Ah I knew this soundpost would be useful some day. Seethe eternally other corpocucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402414
This
"So to say, "freedom""

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402316
>Literally just game perms or getting certain song and dance perms easier.
They don't get any perms because they don't ask for then since they don't need them.
In the real world NOBODY needs permissions. Perms are a made up thing by jap corpos to demoralize their vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402482
You seem lost. Quoted wrong post? Failed to read?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402429
amouranth also does fanservice for her fans to make them happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402298
>>76402271
>>76402235
>>76402163
>>76402028
>>76401643
"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it. Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things. There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to, sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it"
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402448
Fauna played Game of Sisyphus on debut period? Link the stream please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401665
>Creative freedom
Sleeping stream, face reveal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402556
>Perms are a made up thing by jap corpos to demoralize their vtubers.
nah they're made up to protect their shareholders

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402604
I just told you that this is cope. Vshojo has all the same positives hololive has without any of the negatives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
Yep, clippers are pretty obnoxious, Michi did a long yap stream where she talked about scary stories, the indonesian war, black magic, her family being cursed, scummy corporations burning neighborhoods to install warehouses, her own keyboard keys she made with resin (the baby one is very cursed), fashion, jewelry, mental health,and all clippers took is the moment when she said she once tried a cocktail called "blow job" in a restaurant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402740
Single Hololive concert is worth than entire vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402740
Link to vshojo concert with 40k people in attendence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
Her saying they are like indies people will also take as she’s thinks they literally are to. Kiara is even fan of guy which is even more funny. I can’t imagine being a fan of hololive and thinking yeah I’d much rather this person I watch be in another company it’s insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402724
i love sleeping streams can you link me vshojo's latest sleeping stream so i can sleep to it too

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402739
How do they protect their shareholders? Shareholders are not liable for "copyright" bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402740
You’re hilarious. Great jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402802
more than*
i accidentally a word

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402852
Just watch any Ironmouse sleepothon

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399912
>>76401272
>>76402604
obsessed

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402802
with how much the yen cost nowadays it would be 12$ for the whole stadium

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
BASED BASED BASED CALL OUT

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402911
you mean that thing she did twice?

[Anonymous No.]

>what games she can play
the clipper should kys trying for dramabaiting but what game kiara even wants to stream that she can't in hololive? holo perms suck ass but considering most of them only plays usual fotm suspects perms matters so little

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402724
I mean, I guess that is what Kiara wants

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402988
You mean on both her channel and on other person's channel too KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403053
i don't know if i mean that. can you write it more coherently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403026
Gothic

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402740
We have retarded clippers who only post the sex jokes or anything close to it.
Or clippers using clickbait images of Mouse crying when she isn't crying at all in the clip.

>>76402762
custom keyboard keys*

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403136
If a good chuuba plays Gothic I will break my superchat virginity for her.

[Anonymous No.]

So basically
>Japanese corporate autism is annoying
but
>Hololive has a ton of resources and opportunities you can't get in other companies
I was pretty sure there was always a consensus on this board that Vshojo is good if you like having a laid-back environment, and Hololive is good if you like to do big time idol stuff like concerts. Kiara just voiced what everyone already knew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402865
how do you understand business so poorly

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402911
Ok you faggot. I've gone back to her 2023 Subathon to calculate how much she slept.

Methodology:
>Her sleep times are in the Just Chatting category
>To calculate this, I went back to each 48 hour stream to see when the viewers dropped as it indicates when she sleeps
>Sometimes, there are times where I cannot exactly identify the time.
>To make up for this, I added an hour to the calculated sleep time and round up.

Results:
>There were fourteen 48 hour streams and one 40 hour stream
>In 712 total hour streams, she slept for 178 hours
>In 29.6 days, she slept for an average of 6~ hours per day and streamed for 18~ hours.

If you would like to fact check me, count it yourself:
Set the dates to 1st June 2023 to 1st July 2023 and count it yourself.
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
in fairness they do get screwed out of perms more than we like.
t. Brrat who wants Bae to experience the Chuuni that is KH but know Rrat cannot beat Mouse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402556
Tell that to Mio and Capcom

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401729
>Blaming Omega for their own retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403176
Speaking of Vei...

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403032
>>76402919
>Noooo you can't link to the missing context in my bait thread
Here it is once more fag and I'll post.it'in your next thread toos since I know you'll keep posting this shit for 2 more weeks because you're fucking obsessed.

"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it. Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things. There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to, sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it"
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403177
holy sex

[Anonymous No.]

PANKO MENTION WOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403282
PL core.

[Anonymous No.]

This is why I'd prefer if Mint didn't join Holo. I get she wants the idol time, but what about all the time between that shit? JP perm hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Someone send this clip to the chicken, they need to keep the menhera tag team of her and Kronii more rope to hang themselves with.
Seriously, Kronii doing a Twitter shit while zooted is clown shoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400171
>>76401238
>All the Menhera talents at Vshojo all leave at once
>Vshojo suddenly goes from Mid company to top.
I'll always have a chuckle over that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403402
perm hell is overrated as fuck
these are women, not gamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402919
>obsessed
You want transcripts? You got transcripts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403177
>I was pretty sure there was always a consensus on this board that Vshojo is good if you like having a laid-back environment
No, male flesh streamers are superior in every ways. No reason watching Vslopjo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403309
lol

>>76403177
sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403402
Who said she would be joining? Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403177
i like streams so i watch vshojo and indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403026
Catherine, in English
Some abandonware where you can't ask anybody for perms because they don't exist anymore
A few sony exclusives
There's some Square game(s) she asked about before debut iirc and it's still a no
Etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403026
>what game kiara even wants to stream that she can't in hololive? holo perms suck ass but considering most of them only plays usual fotm suspects perms matters so little
I think she wants to play Stellar Blade, but of course Sony is the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403439
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403208
How does stopping someone from playing copyrighted music on stream protect the shareholder when they are not liable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403177
Yeah but because the clipper used a clickbait title and thumbnail some retards will think:
>SHE PRAISED A RIVAL CORPO AT THE EXPENSE OF HER OWN, WHAT AN UNGRATEFUL CUNT

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHiVr4Tr8g

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403548
Yeah part of Kiara’s perms is also struggling to get dance choreo permissions which is difficult for some older idol groups. It’s not a huge deal tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403402
>This is why I'd prefer if Mint didn't join Holo
That was never an option from beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403661
She's mad because they can't monetize it and Kronii is only in it for the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
KFP trooning into sisters as usual

>But not saying that one's better than the other,
Stupid drama whore puts Hololive and Vshojo at the same level


>because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that
Lack of what KFP sistes?
"Noooo it is not freedom she said freedom is a strong word, so she totally does not imply lack of freedom"

>is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs
Once again this stupid drama whore puts both companies at the same level, "I don't have A here but I have B and one repaids the lack of the other"

>and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it.
IF, there is no definitive I am happy where I am

>Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things.
"I can get more money in Hololive"

>There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to,
NOOOO KFP SISTERS DON'T READ THIS.
"If I was in Vshojo I could do those things I want to do but I cannot in Hololive"

>sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it."
"I can make more money in Hololive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403177
Vshojo has all the same opportunitiws though and arguably they have more of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403611
protecting their wallets, dummy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403661
>>76403741
She's mad because of a subway easter egg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403741
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403752
I ain't reading all of that shit. Try killing yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
Based clipGODS making up drama and taking the context out of quotes. If it weren't for them, vtubers would be very boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403752
How mind broken can you get? This is so pathetically sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403241
That's a false narrative that was made up to justify permission bullshit.
Everyone on twitch can stream whatever they want however they want. Only Twitch's own rules matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403756
Link to vshojo concert with 40k people attendence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403851
sucks you cannot deal with reality I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403752
You thought you had something here, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403231
Do they earn more viewers and money by doing that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402151
Nta, you are just giving him the reason because the vtubers of the last generations of holo were nobodies with worse numbers than kson but going into holo they are treated like the.second coming of Jesus despite changing their content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403824
you ok sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403882
not really. you can dmca people on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403882
You realize thousands of people including me saw the takedown notice from capcom when opening a direct link to her ghostrick stream?
You fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403762
How does it do that when playing copyrighted music is clearly not a problem? Vshojo thrives by doing whatever they want. How does the existence of shareholders suddenly make it so that copyrights matter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403752
>IF, there is no definitive I am happy where I am
>"and that is what I want"
Right there, idiot. Listen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403752
Write out a job application next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403895
I will if they ever do one. Right now they don't want to because they're focused on entertaining their audiences instead of wasting time on idol crap

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404171
>They're less popular because they just want to be less popular OKAY?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404049
when a company gets sued for a bunch of money, it generally lowers their stock price. that means the shareholders lose money on their investment. and that's bad. dunno why you're seething about vshojo, they don't have anything to do with jap corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403990
That doesn't do anything though. At worst a little bit of VOD gets muted.
>>76404033
Yeah sure. That wouldn't have happened on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404049
> doing whatever they want.
What makes them different from indies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404171
sounds like cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
She should just make the zatsudans membership only at this point, these niggers will make a drama clip out of anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404171
more like they are too poor

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
can women ever be satisfied?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76401383
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
I think this is the first time I've seen a like/dislike ratio like this on a vtuber clip, people really didn't like this. I hope they don't start anti'ing her or vshojo members because of this retarded clipper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404371
Her antis clip her membership streams too

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404287
>At worst a little bit of VOD gets muted.
a twitch dmca deletes the entire stream and is a huge issue for the streamer. you're confusing it with an automated system that is the equivalent of youtube's content ID system which also does basically nothing most of the time.
>That wouldn't have happened on twitch.
yes it would. a japanese corporation profiting from using another japanese corporation's product while using an illegally modified console is a big deal in japan.

if it was an american indie streamer you would be right, but that's not because of twitch, it's because of america's far more sane copyright laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404234
>doing dumb idolshit concert= popular
lol no
Mouseys subathon was a more well known event than any holo concert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402831
Sister I can't even understand what you were trying to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404662
I think he was having a stroke.

[Anonymous No.]

westerners be like
>I WANT TO DO WHATEVER I WANT BUT ALSO GIVE ME MONEY FOR IT BUT DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO I DEMAND FREEDOM BUT ALSO MONEY BUT FOR FREE BUT LOOK I'M WORKING SO HARD WATCHING TIKTOKS AND BROADCASTING IT ON STREAM GIVE ME MONEY NOW I WANT MONEY GIVE ME MONEY AH DON'T DEMAND THINGS FROM ME JUST GIVE ME MONEY AND DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING IN RETURN FROM ME THAT'S INFRINGING MY FREEDOM TO BE LAZY DON'T TAKE MY FREEDOM FROM ME BUT ALSO GIVE ME MONEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404770
To be fair is mostly this stupid bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404238
You can't get sued just for playing copyrighted music on a normal livestream so stopping people from doing that is retarded and video game permissions is even more stupid.
How am i seething about vshojo? I'm saying they are doing everything the right way and that holo is trash and restrictive for no reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404486
Anon, they're disliking it to tell the clipper he did a shit job. Some guy in the comments said he repprted the video for sexual harassment kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404536
Not him but instead of deleting the stream I think twitch simply mutes parts of the VODs containing copyrighted material, that's where you see red parts on the buffer bar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
He even got called out by another clipper lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404854
Nope
>>76403309

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404295
Nothing. Why should any streamer be restricted in what they can do? It doesn't matter if they're in a company or not. Hololive has brainwashed you to think that there should be a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>the men-haiting lesbian that has everything so many others only dream about wants more

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
i know that clipper thederik or whatever his name was
dude got low view because his lack of editing so doing click bait like this is normal for those faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
>Kiara commented on stream about how much freedom the Vshojo girls have compared to holos when it comes to content and what games she can play
This true, but she also says that she is grateful for the opportunities that being in Holo gives to her. She also says that it is what she wants and that she makes the most of it.
Things are never all black or white, nor even shades of grey, they are a myriad of colours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404858
>You can't get sued just for playing copyrighted music on a normal livestream
yes you can
>>76404913
that is a completely separate thing. when the stream gets muted it's an automatic process. that's not a dmca. a dmca is when a human manually fills out a form and submits it to twitch and then they delete your stream and potentially ban you. exactly how it is in youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404858
If you're a corp vtuber and you fuck around and get your channel shut down because of copyright claims, the company just lost a significant portion of its revenue.
If you're an indie and you lose your channel, you've lost 100% of your revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405006
Nope
>>76403752

[Anonymous No.]

All this talk about MUH TALENT FREEDOM but I never see what these free talents are doing with it compared to Hololive. More flesh streams? Spamming reactionslop? No perms autism but still spamming the same usual FOTM games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399125
Those three aren't even popular enough to get threads. We just shit on niji as a whole

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404662
>>76404719
wanting your oshi to be in another company is dumb is my point the clipper is retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405025
>Why should any streamer be restricted in what they can do?
In vshojo you get restricted when you don't agree with their politics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405044
Why try and summarize it so badly like you did when you can have the transcript.

"But not saying that one's better than the other, because, uh, my lack of so to say "freedom", it sounds really, it's a strong word to use in this kind of topic but my lack of that is basically repaid in other opportunities that I get thanks to being in holo, so. One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it. Like being able to perform at such huge venues, is probably the biggest plus, and, yea, actually can't compare with any, any other place. The way we, even in EN & ID, the way we get to do all these big things. There's some more things that I'd like to do that I'm also not able to, sure, but we still get to do a lot of cool things that others don't get to do. And I'm grateful for that, for those opportunities. And want to make the most out of it"
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c
https://streamable.com/4vch7c

[Anonymous No.]

>>76404536
Jap corpos can't so shit if your on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405247
They can. They just don’t but that doesn’t stop them from potentially doing it in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
vshojo being as desperate as always lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405025
so true sis
streamer should not be restricted in any way even if they lived on one of country that has strict copyright issue they should make anything they want and bear the consequences later and bitching on it to the Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405098
Oh yeah that makes sense, this must be so people don't start streaming entire movies or netflix series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405247
they can and they have. it's just uncommon because it's very bad pr for a giant corporation to attack a random guy playing a video game on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403402
I don't think she's that much of a brainrotten gamer that it would be that bad for her. She might even prefer it since there would be less of a burden to choose what to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405098
You can't get sued just for playing music. If you take it further than just playing it like any random piece of music, like trying to make it a part of your own brand by playing it all the time like it's your theme song then that's a different thing entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405165
Nope
>>76404146

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405221
>>76405328
Looks like you ran out of arguments. Hololive restrictions are nonsense, especially game permissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405588
you can get sued for playing music. you can get sued for playing a game. you can sue anyone for anything. i can sue you because i don't like your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405225
I thought this was just a bit but now i'm starting to think you're actually mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405420
It only happens when they want to take someone down for criticizing them or promoting piracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405771
There no reason to summarize something badly when you can just read what Kiara said. Do you have problems reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405750
so true sis
we should make the Japanese change their way and fight for their own freedom to create content and its not our business if they got sued to oblivion its just mean they are not fighting hard enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403026
Genshin Impact in 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405623
Nope
>One hand washes the other, yea. There's tradeoffs and for me I think uh if that's what you want, and that is what I want, then it's worth it.
The stupid drama whore is exploring a hypothetical scenario where:

If
that is what you want
and
that is what I want
then
the tradeoffs (between VShojo and Hololive) is worth it

But given that Hololive higlighted positive aspect is "making more money", obviously this dumb whore will pick money over creative freedom

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397937
you misspelled JShojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
kfp's got a lot to deal with for their oshi it seems

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399460
Based fatty. He also told Kiara to not mention enna too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398973
Kronii was likely the only HoloEN talent that was thinking of VShojo and her RM did briefly test the waters.

>>76401665
"They are so free", "which feels very indie", and "they have a good relationship with their company". Kiara was comparing freedom vs opportunities. Considering what happened in 2022 and the health breaks with Sana, Ina, and Gura they did have some contract issues. Hololive talents don't get to decide on their original design or their default outfit. They are limited in what they can say and they have extremely strict rules. Hololive does offer major benefits but it's not a perfect deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406378
Kiara declaring Enna a honorary Hanamori is way worse, yet they managed to cope with that too

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406264
I dont understand how a person could honestly think that vshojo would give people all the benfits of working in a company without any regulations or imagines that want to keep up

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406154
This is not even a japanese thing but something hololive and nijisanji invented.
Other japanese corpos don't care about permissions and neither do indie streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
Kiara really giving the fuel the sisters need because she complains so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406684
all corpos worry about permissions. most just aren't autistic about it because most games give streaming permission in their TOS. holoniji just ignore that and demand individual personalized permission anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406684
Okay then.
So, Nintendo for example has no problem with someone on Youtube or Twitch playing their games?
You sure about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405025
So true everyone should steal content and do react streams, bonus if they use copyrighted music while spouting off political opinions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406989
>fair use is stealing
corpocucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407102
It's like you're trying to be stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406684
so true sis
hikain doesn't need perms when he play Nintendo games

[Anonymous No.]

>thread starts out as an anti Kiara bait thread
>eventually just turns into another 'HATE VSHOJO' bait thread with all the same copy / pasted comments as previous ones
Every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407144
corposeethe

[Anonymous No.]

am i crazy or has he removed the thumbnail already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406903
>>76406915
>>76407174
Permissions are not needed for streaming and never have been
Even niconico is full of lets plays and game streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405171
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405750
So true sony boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407456
>Even niconico is full of lets plays and game streams
indie let's plays and game streams.
not corporate let's plays and game streams.
the money going to a corporation instead of some guy changes things.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone should confront Kiara about this and ask her why she thinks Vshojo is better than Hololive. I would like to watch her have another twitter meltdown explaining herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406989
Yes except it's not stealing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407450
you just crazy its still on your post i can see it

[Anonymous No.]

Smug Vshofag or falseflagging Nijisister, which is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407456
so true sis
im sure no one on niconico ever been got into trouble like someone on twitch when they ran into copyright issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407559
I should have clarified myself. Stealing views, there's no need to watch the original video if you already watched the react stream of it. It's redundant

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407456
You know you don't make ad revenue from niconico right? Sis, you need to know niconico is not your favourite site bilibili

[Anonymous No.]

>>76399412
she hasn't and I don't think she has any interest in doing so

[Anonymous No.]

>>76400429
Talent Freedom Ain't free. The box of hololive and quality gotta be litterd with the blood of vtubers. Kson aka "typical twitch slot"(change o to u) is not my beloved dragon. ID ghost girl is Islamic gommunist and probbaly kenyan as well :DD. Sora and shiro not sora and ROBERU ok. praise yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405771
I wrote the transcript he's reposting but I think that summary wasn't bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407450
FWMC are Swedish no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407549
You could also learn what she actually said, which is not that

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
retard

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara basically says what anyone with a brain has been saying, that being essentially indies works well for Vshojo members but Hololive affords her opportunities that she greatly appreciates, it’s almost like people choose companies based on what they personally want to get out of vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407902
>typical twitch slot
you have no fucking idea what you are talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>76408607
My bad, she's even worst than a typical twitch slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>76408668
there is no way to take you seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407841
Two things:

1). 99% of the videos shown as react content I was never going to watch anyway because I hate zoomer shit.

2). How do you feel about pirating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76408607
>doesn't recognize the classic meme
this board is impossible to make jokes on

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
it doesn't bother me i'm not gay,
the problem is the hypocritical holofags who call other vtuber whores for less than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403565
does she have streaming exclusivity with Holo? if not she could just do it on her RM, or just play it in private.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397520
Kiara did nothing wrong. She was fair in her assessment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76405750
Oh nyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>76406684
Why didn't anyone reply to this with the Holocaust when Hololive got buttfucked for not asking for permissions? In fact that's the whole reason they're so anal with permissions. Most of their early streams got wiped out because they didn't ask properly before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409335
Where's the HoloEN stream tho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
Thank you for clearing the air

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409186
Vshojo is the zoomer company so this was inevitable

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409381
They memoryholed it since it goes against freedom, similar to the tw yab coco did that pushed for stricter no drama policy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76407841
hololive steals video games by that logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409535
No Hololive gets permission. So its borrowing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409335
Hololive was blocked from playing this while vshojo streamed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409479
>tw yab coco did that pushed for stricter no drama policy
It's interesting to see this supposed no drama policy loosen right up just as holo is about to start streaming on bili again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76409186
>>76409442
>/pol/
why should i know that when i only watch vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76410525
same energy as the retards in this thread who go "vshojo?? who??? i only watch hololive"
bragging about your own ignorance isn't cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402151
>People love the hololive restrictions because women can't be trusted with freedom
good for YOU not so good for talent I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
>fpwp
>bump limit reached anyway

Cope and SEAthe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76410808
you mean WHOshojo amirite
t. true indie supremacist

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411104
marine is definitely graduating soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>76410808
Are you by any chance going to /V/ to make /vt/ niche jokes?
knowing the place where you are is indispensable so that you are not taken for a retard every time you open your mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76402919
lmao kys (you're going to in a few years anyway, tranny)

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411461
/v/ has regular vtuber threads, I'm convinced half this board already posts in both boards

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411518
and everyone shits on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411104
Who cares what the talent wants? They're women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411518
I only cross-contaminate /cgl/

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411251
Unironically though: ya'll can be ignored by the blandest celebrities out there for fun, but I'll take my 3 view disasters every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76403969
>despite changing their content.
Did you forget to write 'not' here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411104
link to clip?
was she also coping about how the restrictions are totally good because she gets to waste all of her time on corpo projects that she never actually wanted to do just like kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76411796
>real homo
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>76398003
but anon... Kiara is idolfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>76412277
>projects that she never actually wanted to do just like kiara?
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76397794
WHOROSEETHE