Do they regret it at all?

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Do you think it haunts them? Do they actually feel bad it? Are they even capable of feeling bad about it? Do they just pity themselves for what they've lost? Or are they just completely head-empty sociopaths?

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They're sorry they got caught.

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I don't care that much about Doki but I'm shocked that they thought they would win a battle of public opinion against her. Vox in particular sounded like such a slimy sociopath speaking as someone who's never watched him.

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>>76349219
They literally hired a new guy who has his own black stream. They see it as a good thing.

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>>76349293
This is why I lean towards the latter

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They only regret not going harder.

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They only regret they couldn't get away with it.

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>>76349718
This
Only a fucking retard would agree to do a public statement, you leave that shit to the legal counsel (if they had one)
They were gobsmacked when Riku had to do a fiduciary apology moments later under their noses

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>>76349977
As incompetent as AC's management is, the more I think about it the more I really do think that Elira, Vox and Ike are just fucking stupid enough to think that it was a good idea.

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>>76349219
Regretting your actions means acknowledging that you've made a mistake.
I doubt any of those three are the sort of person who's capable of regretting things.

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>>76349219
bet the regret was instantaneous for Elira when at least 2, day1 paypigs left a membership supa wishing the worst for her and leaving forever

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>>76351057
please tell me a clip of that exists

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>>76351057
That notDeadpool guy in particular was shocking; he was the biggest Elira simp known to man prior to the black stream.

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>>76351057
Elira's reputation for all this was spotless up until she released the video. Mindboggling. The girl really does have rocks for brains, she could have come out of all this clean as a whistle.

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>>76349219
I'm surprised they haven't just deleted it yet, it's like a bandaid that desperately needs to be ripped off.

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>>76351403
if they delete it another 10 will get uploaded
(yes i saved it)

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>>76349219
It has been months since this video and I'm still clueless. The only rational explanation behind this video's existence is that the branch believed what Selen did was wrong enough to warrant an attempt at public character assassination. Elira, Vox, and Ike are still human beings with arguably functional brains so it's unlikely for them to agree to be the face of this video without having been assured it was the right thing to do.

I honestly believe at this point, they're deluded enough to think this was the best course of action and anyone leaving them over it is "not a true fan" and "shouldn't pollute their true fanbase"

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>>76349219
What else were they supposed to do? Not defend themselves?

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>>76349219
It's been months, let it go

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>>76351057
I was very much not paying attention to chat when the stream dropped. You got a screenshot or timestamp?

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>>76349219
>sociopaths
While I exclude Mint who seems fine enough as kind of a clueless girl trying her best and that includes her fanbase which seems fine, I only see dramafag sociopaths actively fighting and shitposting in all this, no matter what "side" you claim to represent.

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>>76351509
Defend themselves from what attack, exactly?

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>>76351543
nvm looked it up myself, sweet mother of mercy

Honestly it makes sense, at the end the girls had a ton of fans who were on their last straw over their oshis being mistreated, leaving or being forced to leave, or selling out to the faggots in the male waves for numbers and clout. Honestly the outburst could have been worse.

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>>76351711
some of you holobronies are okay, like this guy here

damn I did not want to relive this, what a dogshit ending to the branch. Pommers...

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>>76349219
In a way it was not that bad of a move for Riku. Think about it, had the black stream not happened, still Riku's stream would, since it was his responsibility as the head of the company. By making these three monkeys shoot themselves in public, Riku managed to redirect most of the hate he would have received towards them.

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>>76351711
yea he was the one that come up to mind
2 years of
>"notsodeadpool thankyou thankyou"
gone

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>>76351693
See that's the thing. They assumed Doki would be vindictive and try to drag their reputation(not that the had much left after terminating their most subbed and well liked female member).
In their fucked little heads they believed they needed to get ahead of what they thought she MIGHT say. This obviously failed.

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Would the black video being on either Vox or Ike's channel cause more or less damage to EN?

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>>76351711
The chat riot was insane to watch in real time. It was obviously a per-recorded video and the mods had no intention of sweeping it up. You could see the wave of disbelief when the Selen slander started. Up until this stream Elira was viewed as completely blameless. Enna was always the one who was cunty in public, but people forgot who brought her into the branch.

Don't think it dawned on Elira until later on that she destroyed her career. The Niji EN organs spend a lot of time in the discord server Elira runs. They only interact with each other and live in a bubble. They felt completely in the right with everything that went on and genuinely believed that they could turn public sentiment around if people heard their side of it.

>>76351850
Riku didn't make them do anything. Elira and crew did this on their own. She runs the EN branch and thought this was a good idea. They probably helped Riku in the long term since they became a target for hate and took pressure off him. EN could graduate everyone tomorrow and it would barely effect Niji as a whole. The financial news sites that covered this story noted that EN is only 15% of Niji's revenue.

>>76351998
Good point. Elira in panic mode thought Selen would try to expose their bullying to the public. They were expecting another Sayu. When she just took the high road they were left holding the bag. Even if Doki wanted to be vindictive, the wider vtuber community did a better job tearing Niji EN apart than she could have done on her own. A bunch of normalfag drama channels got involved in this scandal. The GURRAT was 4 view drama streams withing two days of the first threads about it here. Everything hit the stratosphere pretty quickly once the termination letter was published.

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>>76349219
They only regret that people didn't uncritically accept it like when they fired Zaion.

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>>76351945
Who is even left in Elira's fanbase for the old days anymore? Most of Niji EN can't even break into 4 view territory anymore. They used to be a real challenger to Hololive in the English market after Luxium debuted. Now Phase connect and many /lig/ggers get better numbers than them. One Finnana has even become a standard unit of measurement representing 300 ccv. Finanna used to get 2k+ in her first year easily. It's shocking just how badly they fell apart.

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>>76349219
just run ads on the video lol

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>>76351509
Nijinoids can't grasp the situation.
One co-worker tried to fucking kill herself, then she was given the boot and then middle finger by deleting her channel, after they already did the same shit to Zaion. And their biggest concern was them being named in a fucking private document?
These clowns weren't even being attacked but they made it about themselves anyways.

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>>76352198
It was easy for them to fire Zaion and ruin her life and reputation. Sayu was a pariah for close to a year, only the drama channels wanted to be around her. Sayu did a lot to hurt herself after coming back as an indie. It was a fish in the barrel moment. Elira thought that Selen would be just as easy. Probably why they wanted to beat her to the punch with the black screen stream. They were expecting Selen to go scorched Earth.

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>>76351711
Didn't Elira and Doki/Selen weridly have a lot of overlap in audience Or am I thinking of someone else? because jesus a LOT of faces that were in both don't show up in Eilra's chat anymore

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>>76352388
Most of what we know for certain about who was responsible for the bullying inside Niji EN came from that stream. After the termination letter we only had proof that bullying was going on. Didn't take long for angry fans to have people to blame. It's a self own from a major company with little precedent. I remember talking to an anon in February who said he worked in public relations and that the Niji debacle was the talk of every conference and was being used as a case study on what not to do.

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>>76352399
Never forget they timed the stream to overlap her, hoping it would make her say something that would get her in legal trouble. Her discipline in that moment saved her so much

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>>76349219
do sociopaths feel guilt? of course not

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>>76352557
Assuming their as horrible as they've acted? Seeing how it almost looked like they were expecting her(and to be fair it looked like she was about to have a panic attack) to have a massive meltdown? they might have been trying to get her to finish the job

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>>76351466
It's because it worked with Zaion. They used her own gen mates to trash her on the way out the door. They didn't realize Doki wasn't Sayu and they played themselves

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>>76352518
That was the Hololite audience, who were Lazulight and Obsydia fans from NijiEN's beginning.

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>>76351174
Pretty much him and Peebs are the two big names I think of when I think of her "important" fans, and the latter has basically stopped clipping her entirely. He's still a retard since he's still retweeting shit of her but knowing that even her strongest warriors are now unable to openly support her outside of a hugbox at BEST makes me feel incredibly glad.
On an unrelated note I used to wish for that potentially legendary Nui RPGtist collab but now I'm grateful it never happened and Elira'll never be able to get her disgusting slimy claws on my dumb gambling addicted wife, and now that I think about it her pathway to Patra is also now firmly cut off too.