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Welcome to /news/, your only source for events in the chuuba world.

(Round up as of May 17th)

Hololive
>Anime Expo will host a performance by Mori alongside the screening of the first episode of Suicide Squad ISEKAI, which she sings the ED for.
>Magical Girl holoWitches releases their PV.

Nijisanji
>Nijisanji's B-Class Variety Show collab event will be avaiable in maimai Deluxe as of 5/24.
>Following Nijisanji Staff suggesting in a slideshow to mix energy drinks and soju, the Japanese Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry, and Fisheries issued a statement advising that such activity is dangerous.
>NijiJP group ROFMAO creates fake vtubers for a skit, only for one of the fake vtubers to trend on Twitter. A passing anon stated "Wait, isn't this just FlaVR JP?"
>A guide to maximize viewcounts on "Infinity" has been found being passed around NDF circles.
>Nijisanji posts an official statement regarding slander and harassment over the internet.

VShojo
>Zentreya's birthday celebration is announced for 5/20.
>Zentreya announces a new Vite Ramen flavor: Spicy Tonkotsu.
>Geega will host a stage panel at Anime Expo, featuring Haruka as a guest.
>Henya speculates further that her 3D Showcase could be this weekend, then begins teasing her 3D model on Twitter, holding up decreasing numbers of fingers.
>Michi Mochievee reaches 100k Youtube Subscribers.

Other Corpos
>HoneyChurros of KR Group HoneyZ announces her 3.0 Model upgrade.
>Gema Gathika of AKA Virtual accepts an audition callback for major Indonesian music label, Trinity Optima Production.
>Frederett of AKA Virtual announces her original song, "Kangen Yaa", which will release on 5/26 @ 3a ET.
>MAHA5 teases their 5th generation of talents, a male and a female pair.
>Shirose Aoi of Propro Productions announces their graduation on 6/1, stating that it was at the talent's request.
>Specialite JP announces a 9-company collab in AmongUs, to take place on 5/19.
>Specialite JP also announces a Street Fighter 6 tournament featuring multiple vtubers.
>VAllure tease the thighs of their talents.
>Project: VERSES unveils its first 3 talents.

Indies
>Ving, a JP organization for indies, announces that Ruka Sorasaki and Ron Kuroo have withdrawn from the group.
>Sayu will be attending Hentai Matsuri SD.
>Nyana Banyana will be at OffKai Expo with lucid.
>Onolumi, /vrt/ darling, begins selling stickers.
>Kumogorogoro is purged from Patreon, allegedly due to ASMR content.
>Sayu Sincronisity passes 103k Youtube subscribers, surpassing the 101k Youtube subscribers of Completely Unrelated Graduated NijiEN talent Zaion LanZa.
>SUGAROCK, a JP Vsinger, will debut her original song in the Stogra GTA server on 5/18 @ 9a ET.
>Moon Jelly releases a new song with Singto Conley as part of their upcoming album "...But You Must Live", which will release 6/14.

Other
>Ibara Hiyori, the vtuber representing the Ibaraki Prefecture, announces that she will be on the packaging for Ibaraking Melon Parfait, which will be sold from 5/21 to 5/28.
>Following inquiries from a number of riggers regarding data protection and IP protection, AniLive states that it is unable to properly adapt L2D models to the AniLive app from external programs, and requires the assets be directly uploaded to AniLive's servers. As this is a difficult story to summarize with proper justice, readers are heavily advised to do research on this topic independently.
>AlphaAzur, a JP streamer, opens a RUST server to multiple vtubers.
>FalseEyeD, following up reporting and research of /lig/ anons, among other sources, corroborates that MSM Talent is not a valid company, and that there are disparaging remarks being issued from MSM to sponsors and other vtubers. He also confirms that Grimmi's Hot Sauce company is also not a valid LLC. In the process of this research, he also discovered that Seth, the "owner" of MSM Talent, also owns a vtuber design guild, Spite Engine, that has not been paying artists and riggers.

Local
>Shigure Ui currently leads IndieCar's 13th series.
>Ogey Calibur continues on 5/17 @ 11a ET.

Corrections
>The previous round-up mistakenly listed the dates of the NijiEN/Chronoir concerts at Anime Expo as 6/10. The dates of those concerts are 7/6 and 7/7.
>The previous round-up mistakenly listed news regarding Magical Girl HoloWitch under Nijisanji's header. It is obviously Hololive news. (This was already corrected in the last OP).
>The previous round-up mistakenly credited Amiya Aranha with winning the Indie 500 twice in a row. She has won the IndieCar Championship twice, but this was the first time she had won the Indie 500.
>The previous round-up mistakenly stated that Henya's 3D Showcase would be "before the end of May". Henya stated it would be "before the end of July". If you're reading this last, you may be confused. Don't sweat the details.

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Previous thread: >>75894899

Forgot to link this, too bad!

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OOF

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>>76113959
Seth, owner of MSM, quote-retweets False with a public statement regarding the allegations.
https://x.com/sethwmad/status/1791953056680059335

Krimbo went live shortly afterward to react to it.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2149298688
During the stream, Meat spoke out in chat, stating that she had given her personal information to one person (within MSM), and found that information leaked online some time later.

MSM member Kabhaal quote-retweeted Seth's statement, speaking in his defense and doubling-down in select replies.
https://x.com/KabhaalVT/status/1791970206358605842
Bird the Robot of Sigrid and Bird retweeted Kabhaal's statement.

Earlier today, Lucy Pyre announced on-stream that she had left MSM due to a "difference in goals and mindsets." She follows Grape of Girls FC and flesh-streamer F1NN5TER in this move, the latter of whom Krimbo claims to be responsible for by sharing information with her.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2148969559?t=00h57m02s

At the end of Aethel's stream today, which overlapped the release of Seth's statement, he addressed the issue by stating that his Castle (fanbase/brand) is not MSM, and that he is consulting with an independent legal team regarding the allegations. He also says that while he has no negative experiences with MSM, that doesn't mean nothing happened, and that he's interested in discussing the blacklist allegations when there are more details.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2149198592?t=02h30m09s

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>>76113959
https://twitter.com/OffKaiExpo/status/1791861375456669890

Offkai will be having a concert featuring 6 Vtubers across the industry, featuring:
Kiara
Kira Lily
Bao
Kiri Spica
Miori Celesta
Aruvn

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>>76115603
>7% sold
grimdark
imagine how much money they're losing

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>>76113924
...but why Erebus and Ame in particular?

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>>76115603
This is actually incorrect: the 131/131 counts the three groups closest to the stage as open to sale when they are not. (I saw another chart of it earlier where this was correctly represented.) That accounting brings the proportion down to 71%.

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>>76113959
The world's #1 most subscribed VTuber is getting a new model soon, and also hinted at possible future collaborations.
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>>76113959
https://x.com/DJ_Leaf/status/1791965936267715069
Mint Fantome will be performing at Anime North's Truck Rave on May 25th, alongside W.T. Snacks (yes, that snacks), kors k, and others.

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>>76113924
>Following Nijisanji Staff suggesting in a slideshow to mix energy drinks and soju, the Japanese Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry, and Fisheries issued a statement advising that such activity is dangerous.
Follow up to this story: ASAP Club, apparently sick of being mass raided by nijisisters, has disabled replies on their tweet about the mixing incident, and also somehow removed the related community note:
https://x.com/asapclub_/status/1788147522927829221

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>>76086569
From last thread: what matters is not whether a contract says it is an "independent contractor" or "employee" but what the actual contents of the contract say and whether what is said makes it employment or independent contractor. For more details read this easy guide: https://www.amazon.com/x/dp/B00EQCEZS6

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{BUMP ANCHOR}
Link your bumps here to make them easy to hide.

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>>76113959
CIEL of KAMITSUBAKI STUDIO/PHENOMENON RECORD annouced suspension of activities at the end of yesterday's vrchat live
https://x.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1791800100928549246
>>76072999
unclear if it's indefinite hiatus or she's quitting. she's been struggling with her health for years. projects already in the works (1st album and other recorded vocals) will still be released as planned.

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>>76115722
>Seth, owner of MSM, quote-retweets False with a public statement regarding the allegations.
Kek. His first defense was that cpa suddenly passed away so he couldn't fix shit... for 3 years.
Putting this here because catalog is full of boobers/booba and no bait for msm.

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>>76118534
Q4 report is already underway. This would just be filed under building a case as to why the nijien branch should be axed

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>>76127918
>Putting this here because catalog is full of boobers/booba
Still!? Jeeze... Going to have to add "Kronii stupidly reacts to random grey name commenting on her model's ridiculously huge rack" to local events at this rate.

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>>76128452
Last Sams salivating

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>>76114264
Ogey calibur ends tomorrow. Same time, same cytube

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>>76125097
>またきっと、お会いしましょう!
sounds like she'll come back someday...

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>>76113959
Vtuber Kyou, GILF ASMR Vtuber, has had their Youtube channel deleted for "too many kissy noises", despite the content previously being manually approved by the Youtube partnership process.
https://x.com/kuramekira/status/1791150583497560173
There does seem to be some sorta war being raged against ASMR on adult platforms for some reason. It's really strange as it's the one sort of 'porn' you don't have to really worry about your kids being exposed to. In addition to being completely arbitrary in this case, given the other sorts of ASMR one can easily find on Youtube, and the actual porn you can get on Patreon.

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>>76127918
his entire statement was full of holes, plus kabhaal himself in his tweets contradicted seth's own statement by claiming the new LLC was in a new state while seth said in the video that he was renewing it in Maryland.

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>>76113959
Octavio has released a cover of Aishite Aishite Aishite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaPjoKpm7xk

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>>76118815
Friend asked me to make a random edit with Erebus and a vtuber. I chose smol ame for obvious reasons but I also have evil lemon woman.

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>>76113959
Takeshi Okamoto, associate professor at Kindai University and a VTuber under the name of Zombie Sensei (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2j66tHGA-Luyt5sF3cg6XA)), has written a paper about the characteristics of media communication in VTuber content tourism, using the collaboration between Nijisanji's Suo Sango and Shima Spain Village as the main topic. It was published in the March issue of the Kindai Applied Sociology Review, Vol.12, No.02.
https://x.com/animemitarou/status/1791727687951642931

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>>76113959
>>76115722
There was actually two other vtubers that went live on Friday that were former MSM talent members to talk about their experiences, Tiffany Witcher and Fuululuu. Neither one left the vods up accessible to the general public, but here are some quick notes from the streams

Tiffany Witcher:
>Told to stop making sad posts on Twitter after her dad died by Seth and wasn't allowed time to grieve his loss in the way she felt was needed.
>Was told she'd get health insurance, didn't
>Scared enough of Seth that the idea that he could dox her if she went against him actually went through her head, mentioned that if her information winds up on 4chan "you know who did it"
>Is epileptic, wanted to do an accessibility test on Meet Your Oshi to find out if it could trigger seizures before playing the game. Seth told her to just shut up and play the game or else.
>Was told to her face that she, as a black woman, could be "The Female Heavenlyfather" by Seth
https://streamable.com/23o5xe
>Was eventually let go from MSM and was left financially in a bad situation and facing eviction

Fuuluulu:
>Went over her contract from when she was with MSM on stream and said it's 100% accurate to the one False showed.
>Msm would overwork and underpay artists and editors, threaten to replace you if you complained or said you need more time
>At some point someone within msm did "some fucky shit" and msm had to become involved. Seth had to make a choice whether to keep somebody on or not and as a result fuululu and someone else got put on a ~2 months probation within msm
>Probation involves a ban from the general chat in the msm discord and no communication with msm, supposedly wasn't supposed to affect sponsorships but fuululu was unable to participate in a charity event due to the lack of communication
>fuululu didn't have access to her own @msm.gg business email and had to have emails manually forwarded to her until after a year while her friend had access to it from the beginning
>Accusations of favoritism, cliques, shittalking about mythic talent, 3am, and other groups
>If you were an msm talent and Seth didn't like you, he would isolate you.
>Seth doesn't like lewdtubers and would openly disparage them Despite this he has cottontail on his roster
>Fuululu didn't want to live in fear of being doxxed so she put out all her info for people to see
>When she mentioned this to Seth he said something like "Yeah being doxxed isn't really that big of a deal", which as a fun note, was almost used in a post verbatum earlier that day when /lig/ was discussing coqui being possibly doxxed by MSM >>76004728
>Was released at the same time as Tiffany Witcher

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>>76124361
My last bump for awhile, hopefully someone else picks up.

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>>76139124
based

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>>76113924
>news
https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_eng/status/1792120959992025471
https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_eng/status/1792120959992025471
Ciel from Kamitsubaki Studio is on Kizuna Hiatus

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>>76138019
Krimbo and Reda (a South Side member) post updates on the legal aspects of the MSM forfeiture.


Krimbo posts an image from a Maryland lawyer stating that forfeited businesses can only be sued, not sue others.
https://x.com/king_kriminal/status/1792120938802090150

Reda points out that the current statute says that it's a misdemeanor punishable by a fine to operate a business in Maryland while it is forfeited.
https://x.com/RedaOuVT/status/1792037576939130885

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>>76113924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZSxf3GdHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZSxf3GdHY [Open]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZSxf3GdHY
New KMNZ members revealed. They become trio now after Lita, one of the original duo, graduated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZSxf3GdHY[Open]
New KMNZ members revealed. they become trio now after Lita, one of the original duo, graduated.

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>>76113959
https://x.com/VAllureOfficial/status/1791917058449658267
VAllure releases trailer revealing their girls' models and voices. Everyone's channel and twitter is up too.

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>>76148463
Not something I'm really interested in watching but it'll be interesting to see how successful this becomes, and whether it'll spawn a wave of adult-themed EN corpos.

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>>76113959
News
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>>76142350
fix:
>after Liz, one of the original duo, graduated

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>>76124361
slow news day

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>No news about chadsters new outfit
>No news about Elira's 3.0
>No news about AX which you could spin negatively like any good reporter(since it hasn't sold out)
>Just the weeks old shit about the energy drink stuff and the make believe NDF shit that only exists in the monkey's brains
This "news" thread is a joke.
And the view count stuff has been around for years, as early as Luca's cover of Mafia, its a classic kpop tactic, you'd know this if you did a little legwork like a proper news thread should do.

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>>76154570
If you have news about Niji, post it to the anchor. There's little point in whining about it if you don't add the info, everything's sourced from multiple anons.

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>>76114164
Sales numbers of Neo-Porte's Outdoor merchs
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[BREAKING NEWS] /news/ is gonna be on the telly at 12pm! (for Ogey Calibur)

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>>76154570
>chadsters
Who?
>news about AX
We covered that all last thread--there's been nothing knew since then.
>view count stuff
What's notable is that there's a new one been made, not that the tactic exists.
Also, if you want to add news, do so. We don't have time to watch all of the 3views (like Elira) out there, so don't blame us for not covering something you want covered, but do your own work.

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>>76154570
Anon...
You can do it yourself of you have any news of them.

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>>76154570
This is a news aggregation thread. While the round-ups sometimes pull info themselves, it is largely driven by anons bringing news here with sources.
If you want shit to show up in the news, report it. If nobody cares enough to bring it here, is it really news that matters? Yes, of course it is, but we're still not fucking omnipotent.

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>>76148463
Twitter link is dead for me for some reason. So:
https://youtu.be/SROxvHL_VrY

>>76149780
Kinda hope not. Vtubers will end up being deplatformed left and right. There seems to be a huge neo-puritanical movement lately, where corporations are picking up where government censorship failed, and they are waging war against the most innocuous shit that harms absolutely no one, like ASMR.

Not that I don't applaud the effort, but there are consequences.

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>>76155636
it works on nitter, so it's just twitter being fucky. probably. who knows with twitter nowadays

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>>76155398
>spoiler
speak for yourself, low-life.

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>>76155705
They've apparently completely switched to "x.com" now, although as you can see from the top of this screenshot, it doesn't look like the website has realized it yet.

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>>76156087
yeah but the relevant VAllure link IS an x one. maybe it just doesn't work for people not logged in, cause i don't have an account

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>>76114374
In the latest development of the ongoing MSM controversy, online entertainment lawyer Legal Mindset is going to be reviewing a copy of the MSM talent contract live on stream and talking about the topic of contract enforceability. Large indie Coqui, one of the primary victims of MSM's harassment, has decided to push back her stream on the topic until after this Legal Mindset stream has concluded
https://x.com/TheLegalMindset/status/1792199011627421821
https://x.com/C0QUI/status/1792215508562911340

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>>76114374
>>76156731
Additionally, Large indie and MSM talent Kabhaal issued an apology, but not a retraction, for statements he made the previous day asserting that MSM had a valid LLC in a different state but declining to say which state, citing an NDA he supposedly signed which prevents him from disclosing what should be public information
https://x.com/KabhaalVT/status/1792201209857876032

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>>76156863
weirdest apology i every read

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>>76156226
It doesn't work for anybody. Not only is x.com not the new site, x.com no longer works to redirect people to twitter.com.

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>>76157466
As I feared, the remaining loyalty is clearly more about the who than the what or the facts on the ground, and not particularly well placed even from that classically foolish position.

I suppose most of those involved will be fine, I just hope someone saves Grimmi before something terrible happens to her.

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>>76156731
>there is no blacklist just warning about bad actors

Well that seems to me like what a blacklist is

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>>76156226
>>76157643
It might be a regional thing, but I haven't had an issue with website access at all during this. My bookmark to Twitter.com redirects to x.com, if I open a tweet and change x to twitter it redirects me to x. yt-dlp didn't work with x until I updated it with "yt-dlp -U". I'm signed in to an account.

An issue I did start having a few days ago is that the page for push notification settings is completely blank and I don't receive any push notifications at all. It makes it much more difficult to keep up with news. Someone could tweet something, realize it's a mistake and delete it, and I would be none the wiser

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>>76157466
It came shortly after Legal Mindset announced he was going to be doing his stream about the contract - I think that might have made Kabhaal realise that this wasn't just petty twitter drama anymore.

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BREAKING NEWS
MATING PRESS REPORTER HAKOS BAELZ IN ON THE TELLY
http://vtleague.420699.xyz

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>>76158335
this didnt involve him directly in anyway, he could have laid low and then when the shit comes out claim to be a victim
instead he went on the offensive without all the facts or expertise and now he will sink with the ship

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>>76154570
This thread is crowdsourced from across the board. If there's no Niji news posted, it's because nobody from the Niji threads is coming to talk about their news.

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>>76154570
>No news about AX which you could spin negatively like any good reporter(since it hasn't sold out)
I don't think AX ever sells out. They're hosted by the Staples Convention Center (or Cryptix, or whatever they're calling it now), it has a capacity of like 200,000.

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>>76158711
aaaaand we're out

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>>76156863
>>76113959
Just doing the rounds:
There's an MSM, LLC in Georgia, set up by Mark Ross (2/11/11-2/15/16)
There's the one in Maryland, already discussed.
There's one in New Mexico which IS ACTIVE, run by Dr. Frank Mirabal, set up 11/04/19.
The company is described as "Developing an independent media network, using audio (podcasting), video, and written works."
There's one active in Pennsylvania (has been since 2000), but the website sucks and I can't mine anything. It doesn't look like it's the right one, though, given that it was founded in 2000.
There's an MSM, LLC in Virginia, set up by one Jared Smith, but it's also expired (8/31/19-11/30/22).

So, in sum: there are two LLCs in America which are (1) called "Mad Scientist Media" and (2) are currently active. The one in Pennsylvania, which has been active since 2000, is probably a false positive. That leaves the one in New Mexico, although that one also seems suspicious/not a good match.
My bet for the one Kabhaal was talking about is the Virginia one--it's close to Maryland and was made around the same time. Because of the two LLCs (especially the New Mexico one), I can't say for sure, but it doesn't seem likely that Weinstein's MSM, LLC is still around anywhere.

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>>76113959
To bump (and to news), I'll post the VAllure talents, starting with "feral polar bear" Icey Snowpaws (@IceySnowpaws).

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>>76159533
is there any way for the msm talents or ex talents to sue seth for defrauding them

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>>76124361
Bump

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>>76113959
kicked the cat out
bring in two new bitches

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>>76160603
I haven't looked into the situation enough to know what the allegations are in terms of speaking on that front. For the fake-LLC business, so long as he provided them the service I don't think it's an issue. LLCs aren't formal corporate entities (like cos., corps., and incs.), they're more akin to partnerships and "groups" just with some additional legal paperwork. One reason this matters is where lawsuits would be brought: for real companies it's where they're headquartered or incorporated. For LLCs you ignore the paperwork and look at where the people who run the LLC live--so any suit against Seth would be brought where he lives, not where the LLC was/is. If you have more details I can speak more about it. (It also depends somewhat on the contract--or rather, they could sue him for violating the contract separately from the fraud--but LM hasn't streamed on that yet.)

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>>76113959
>>76114374
Nijisanji's Kotoka Torahime finally makes a peep (assuming she's not being skinwalked):
https://x.com/KotokaTorahime/status/1791445016583319908#m

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>>76113959
>>76114374
Nijisanji's Kotoka Torahime finally makes a peep (assuming she's not being skinwalked):
https://x.com/KotokaTorahime/status/1791445016583319908#m
[deleted and reposted for image, saving the clicks/twitter being fucky]

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>>76114264
IndieCar's 13th series comes to a wrap, final standings are here: >>76161691
Indie 500 winner Amiya finishes 4th overall, but congratulations to longtime IndieCar driver and holomama Shigure Ui for finally winning the overall series championship for the first time!
Next VTRP stream on June 2 (Formula Holo rounds 13 and 14) and also don't forget about VGTC signups closing at the end of this month

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>>76113959
Hololive's Mori Calliope is having a rough time recovering from her knee surgery:
https://www.youtube.com/@MoriCalliope/community
(I still dunno how to link an individual Youtube community post.)
Catalog thread: >>76121265
Estimates her return "at the end of May" and even then, members only at first.

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>>76124361
(I swear, I only fed Neuro the prompt in the text... The AI is not only self aware, it is /here/.)

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>>76160595
One down, 5 to go.
Guess this was Cubes. Cuz yeah, ice cubes.
No, I'm not Ina lol

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>>76113959
Rica (@ricaaach) (formerly Yozora Mel) makes a debut on Twitch, playing Valorant.
https://www.twitch.tv/ricaaaas2

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>>76164541
>A guide to maximize viewcounts on 'Infinity' has been found being passed around NDF circles
I've no idea how you would get an empty theatre from that prompt, even if the AI had internet access, which I've never seen for a diffusion AI.

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>>76113959
Nene Amano debuts a new outfit tonight
https://youtu.be/TRuxkQ4PNbg
https://youtu.be/N7y9C594uf8

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>>76113959
Globie announces vtuber auditions in Europe for Gen3:
https://globie.net/audition/
Brave Group seems to be spamming a lot of talents - generally not a good sign.

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>>76113959
Shigure Ui (of "Loli God Requiem" fame) releases a figure via Furyu Hobby Mall for pre-order:
https://myfigurecollection.net/item/2283985

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>>76160595
Next up is Immy Bisou (@ImmyBisou), VAllure's "hex maniac" not a registered trademark of Game Freak, Inc. !
Although she brags about being short, she's only 2 cm shorter than Icy...

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>>76171191
Now is the "dorky yandere" Mercy Modiste (@MercyModiste).
Her skirt is, uh, interesting. Gotta say, love the midriff on these girls, Icey's jacket in particular gives an interesting feel.

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>>76175801
what did neuro sama meant by this

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>>76174075
Up next is "hypnotic cuddlefish" Stronny Cuttles (@StronnyCuttles).

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>>76124361
Bump.

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>>76176020
"Nijisanji posts an official statement regarding slander and harassment over the internet." I mean, obviously. (Actually generated three of these based on that prompt, always gave me some big gestapo looking guy and a crying girl.)

Not as creepy as that one (>>76164541), where it seemed to almost understand what the NDF was, and that an empty theatre would be an appropriate meme.

It was also interesting yesterday, when it made a collage of corporate logos in regards to a corporate takeover (>>76033733), whereas it usually just generates a random anime girl if it doesn't know what you're talking about.

The Dark Sushi Mix checkpoint seems to have a lot of EN vtubers, so this one isn't so surprising.

Hrmm... It's 4pm'ish, so I'd normally stop bumping now, but we've no new round up to bake with yet, and are pretty far from the bump limit.

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>>76132737
Beyond much of the hearsay-tied topics, I do agree that it's odd that the LLC being registered in another location (it's New Mexico, btw) wasn't mentioned at all OTHER THAN to address the contracts stating Maryland on them. The CPA dying causing several year delays is, sadly, not too far-fetched, but doesn't account for the full scope of those forfeiture records. So that still needs addressal.

I will say though, the legitimacy of the contracts is a funny thing and would basically have to come down to a judge's ruling - as well as if both parties do or don't agree whether the contract still holds legal weight. Which, to keep simple, won't matter unless someone currently under contract sues MSM.

At this point, while I'm willing to take all testimony at face value for now, we're gonna need some major receipts for the rest of the matters. And getting THOSE is seeming pretty unlikely at the moment.

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>>76114264
Ogey calibur has officially ended. THe winning group is BIGGER featuring the threads of /hag/, /ag/, /vtau/, /wAIfu/, /swarm/
with phase coffee in 2nd and Who? in third /our/ team got 6th but the mating press finally put on a show

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>>76180306
>>76132737
what is kabhaal role in all of this anyway
is he a manager
also male vtubers were a mistake

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>>76159533
I can confirm that it is indeed the New Mexico one

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>>76180766
Not really sure desu, I don't have any particularly deep ins with anyone at MSM
My assumption is that he's still just talent being represented, but then again, there are execs that are also represented talent so that's a big shrug from me. I doubt it would make much difference either way, though.

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>>76180806
Okay, I was split between that one and the now-defunct Virginia LLC.
>>76132737
Well, that's not necessarily contradictory. The LLC is currently in another state (the 2019-created one in New Mexico), but Seth can still intend to re-create the LLC in Maryland.

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>>76142179
As also to https://twitter.com/KabhaalVT/status/1791984714502328395
The law says a forfeited LLC is not prevented from "defending any action, suit or proceeding in a court of this State"--not bringing one (e.g., to enforce a contract).
Similarly, he didn't commit that misdemeanor if he operated MSM, LLC of NM after MCM, LLC of MD was forfeit.
>>76180306
A lot of this depends on whether a judge would find bad faith. Seth, after all, didn't abandon the entire business--he did set up a new LLC in the state to which he moved. It seems most likely that, when Seth moved to New Mexico, he set up the new LLC, started operating under it, and ignored the old Maryland LLC. Unfortunately, it looks really bad in state records if you just "ignore" the LLC you own.

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>>76180306
I'm guessing this fiasco may not be ultimately a malicious thing (aside from the blacklisting, which is probably just kids being kids). I'm guessing Seth isn't all that old and has just enough charisma to network this thing together with bubblegum and chicken wire, while he's largely ignoring the legalities as an afterthought. Still a recipe for disaster though, almost as much for him as his clients.

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>>76181438
>Seth moved to New Mexico, he set up the new LLC, started operating under it,
You'd think he woulda brought that up in his defensive tweet.

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>>76181438
>It seems most likely that, when Seth moved to New Mexico, he set up the new LLC, started operating under it, and ignored the old Maryland LLC. Unfortunately, it looks really bad in state records if you just "ignore" the LLC you own.

Yeah, that's my understanding of the situation too. The issue that this is even caused by is the fact that the contracts that have RECENTLY been made seem to still say they're dictacted by Maryland - which would be an extremely simple thing to amend, yet it doesn't seem like they're taking any steps towards doing so, or even acknowledging it. That detail in particular makes me wonder if ignoring it is intentional as a means of avoiding some other litigation or something - but I'm no lawyer so I really do not know.

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>>76181591
Yeah, that's something that's been bothering me as well, but it might also open up more cans of worms if he admits to that without being in the process of amending contracts and such - which he doesn't seem to be doing.

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>>76181686
>the contracts that have RECENTLY been made seem to still say they're dictacted by Maryland
What's the proof for this? I've heard that LM's going to stream about the MSM contract tonight in about two hours, so I'll tune into that for details. Also,
>>76180806
source?
>>76181591
Could you send me a link to that, too? I've been busy checking 50 different (and differently-configured) State SOS Web-sites for business records, so I've missed the Twitter drama.

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>>76181438
>in state records
Unfortunately, New Mexico's Web-site https://portal.sos.state.nm.us/BFS/online/ is terribly broken--both "file download" links on the page are wrong--so I can't download any of MSM, LLC of NM's files. The only public information is the name of the registered agent and operator--Dr. Frank Mirabal of Albuquerque--and the only listed filing is their statement of incorporation (from 2019).

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>>76182081
>Could you send me a link to that, too?
Earlier in the thread, along with some others: >>76115722 (It's just 4 minutes or so, unlike Krimbo's whole damn stream on the subject.)

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>>76182081
>What's the proof for this?
>source?

Both are, unfortunately, word of mouth from people I know that are more involved in that side of this ordeal (especially regarding the recent contracts, as I'm about 60/40 on the legitimacy of that myself - hence my wording), so I don't have any screenshots or anything to provide.

By all means, take my statements as you will until proven otherwise by more reliable sources. I'm just a fringe 3rd party sandwiched in the middle of this, trying to figure out whether I need to bail on the whole thing or not lmao

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>>76182393 (me)
While we're on the topic of New Mexico-based LLCs, Frank Mirabal is also the registered agent for (still-active) Mad Scientist Entertainment, LLC (est'd 2003).
He's also this guy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankmirabal
on LinkedIn.
The Web-site has a number of broken (no-content) links and is copyrighted to last year:
https://madscientist.media/
Are we sure this is the right MSM?

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>>76181509
ultimately, a talent agency has no business being in the news, they should be pretty much invisible
the second they hit headlines they are a liability: they find sponsors and get a cut out of it, thats their business, and no one will want to make business with them again now that their reputation is tainted beyond repair, nor anyone would want to apply to it now that it is rumored they will post your personal info if you give them your real name
Unlike a corpo, there is no loyalty needed, he is not their actually employer, just find someone else to get you contracts and move on

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>>76182938
>just find someone else to get you contracts and move on
Unless you're Gimmi. She might be in real trouble and is clinging to Seth like he's Jesus, which is worrisome.

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>>76182692
That's fine, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any publicly available information. In any case, I'll be waiting for that LM stream.
Although I'm not from New Maryland, I'm happy to spout crack legal advice.

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>>76182692
>bail on the whole thing or not lmao
if anyone you get involved with appears as thumbnail in a dramatuber video for whatever reason, drop them
Even if they are cleared of anything you dont need that shit in your life
The lessons from Rushia is never give people a second chance, not even a first one if possible

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>>76183059
Grimmi is the most groomable vtuber in the world that naivety was coming back to bite her at some point

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>>76183133
This is thankfully sadly not my first rodeo with CC/Minor Celeb drama, so I'm taking the best stance for my current situation.
I won't lose anything major where I'm at, would just be adding disappointed distance - this whole ordeal isn't too terribly heinous in the first place. Bad, but as of yet not horrible.

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>>76115722
Because I like having things written out, here's Seth's statement:
>There are accusations going around by a few individuals in our community aimed at me. Generally, it is my policy to not publicly address rumors within the industry, but in this instance, it's now going beyond rumors affecting not just me, it's also affecting my family and MSM talent, so I would like to clarify some major points.
>Our Maryland LLC had been in the process of correcting its status with the State when our CPA passed away suddenly. This has been the source of a number of delays, and we've had to get assistance from new tax and legal professionals. The process has been restarted with the new tax professionals for months.
>None of this has impacted talent payments, as talent has always received any money they're owed. This has also never affected our ability to work with sponsors.
Hi Seth,
You should have received an invite to SmartVault and [redacted]
To complete a power of attorney form to run the compliance check, I need the new client form that is attached.
Additionally, I need an invite under this email to your QuickBooks online account.
Lastly, I would like any and all documentation that you have regarding the MSM LLC.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Feb 23, 2024, 12:36 PM
>In terms of a blacklist - There is no blacklist. As managers, we will always keep track of potential bad actors and often warn talent, but we do not actively prevent talent from interacting with anyone. If our talent choose to collab with others, those decisions are made on their own.
>Claims have been made stating there were two entities being used for MSM. Both "Mad Scientist Media LLC and MSM Talent" are the same entity. There has only been one Maryland entity for MSM.
>Grinding Coffee Co was a black and queer-owned business. I was not in charge of the business nor was I the majority owner. We rebranded due to the majority owner not being able to be more intimately involved, so we changed the branding. I can't get into the specifics for the privacy's sake of those involved. Nonetheless, I am on good terms with everyone at the coffee company.
Twitter accounts for "Grinding Coffee Co." (@grindingcoffeeco) and "Oso!" (@WithOsito)
>A company does exist for Saucy Biz -- it was filed months ago. It's registered under a different name and I do not own a majority stake.
>The listed paypal transaction in the video can be seen as "Returned" due to our team identifying the issue that the Paypal processing system was incorrectly listing the payment details. This had been cancelled and funds returned to the customer at the time to ensure transactions were done properly.
>To resolve this matter, we had offered the customer their order at no cost due to the inconvenience. After this issue was resolved, no more payments were done through a Paypal payment processor.
Apr 7, 2024, 8:49 PM
That is great to hear. So does that mean the payment issues have been resolved? If so I will be excited to try the Hot Sauce. Thanks for all the help in this matter.

Apr 7, 2024, 8:55 PM
Correct! You're all set and we flagged the two orders with issues to make sure they are in our fulfillment queue!
Please don't hesitate to reach out if you need to change anything
Thanks again for your support.
- Seth
>In terms of the "Other LLCs" mentioned - These were utilized when I was serving as an independent contractor at a number of different businesses to protect myself.
>These LLCs are in forfeiture because I genuinely did not make use of them beyond what they were originally created for. After this there was no reason maintain the LLCs.
>There have been claims that I endorse the doxxing of individuals and specifically that I would make threats to doxx individuals. This is a ridiculous and completely untrue statement. As a talent representative, I do not endorse doxxing, and actively work to prevent the doxxing of many vtubers and other community figures as I believe its a safety risk.
>In terms of the tweet shown from 2017, I was a 21 year old and at the time I thought it was something that was acceptable, when for many obvious reasons it was not. The posts were made out of what was then an attempt at overly cringe humor which does not reflect on how I feel about anything.
>As for the facebook account. My personal account had been hacked and relates to a situation completely separate from my current work. It's unrelated, but also a consequence of past mistakes which I've been working to grow and improve from, as an individual, and as a business owner.
>Court date -- This is a personal matter and has nothing to do with MSM or its finances in any way. The personal matter had been something I was not fully aware of because I was moving, but has been promptly resolved with the collection company.
>In regards to False's statement around claims against him.
[part 1/2]

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>>76184810
>As a talent representative, I always have to have the best interest of my talent at heart. Which will, at times, mean being the guard that has to give warnings to people who wish to interact with them. It often makes me a "bad guy" to other people. Ultimately, my goal is to simply protect my talent.
>MSM's creators have the ability to leave at any time with no repercussions. As far as has been communicated to us, talent has enjoyed working with MSM, and we've done everything we can to rectify any issues brought to us and we will continue to support them where we can. Ultimately, our talent's satisfaction is our top priority.
>I've been seeing this all unfold knowing that the thing that makes this as bad as it is are my past mistakes. I'm seeing my colleagues, friends, and talent harmed and caused unnecessary stress and fear. It's exhausting. I'm exhausted. I've worked for the past 3 years with our goal to build a place for talent to frow and accomplish their dreams, and we will continue to do so. We will continue to help this industry any way that we can. Asmongold was right. I was a hustler, working my ass off, trying to accomplish something and making a metric ton of mistakes along the way. But what we've built over the past 3 years is an amazingly talented team of staff that have molded MSM into the well-run talent management company it is today. I've learned from my past mistakes and have channeled that work ethic into this project. We've worked hard to ensure that the careers of everyone involved in MSM can grow. Thank you for listening to my side.

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>>76158803
Because there IS nobody in the Niji threads. Someone posted a pretty convincing argument last thread that they're all bots

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>>76185342
That was in a bait thread though, I think there are real people in the actual generals but they treat them more like colonies of /soc/ - rarely do they seem to discuss the actual organs or streams.

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>>76177622
Finally is "bunny dominatrix" Shibi Cottonbum (@ShibiCottonbum).

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>>76187929
cute

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>>76114466
LM reviewing the counterstatement and contract. Curious as to why he did this after false dropped his expose.

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>>76114374
NijiEN just keeps going down

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>>76192230
Probably because he only got it from false

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>>76192230
I'm doing a write-up of his stream as it's going on. I'll post it once the stream's over.

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>>76192565
>12 pages of contract
are you ready?

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>>76193223
I'm actually going to post my summary before he shows the contract. For the contract, I'm going to re-type the whole thing as LM shows it on stream so that /news/ has its own copy.

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>>76192565
>>76113959
Legal Mindset's comments on Seth's defense and the MSM situation:
>Seth's excuse for having a defunct LLC makes sense for the initial defunct situation, but not for how long it has taken him to get it fixed. The most likely situation is that he needs to pay back taxes on his LLC.
>>Given forfeiture since 2021, that's three years of back taxes.
>>If the CPA died in 2021, why has it taken three years to get it fixed?
>>If the CPA died in 2024, why weren't taxes being paid for three years?
>The contracts are still enforceable on the talents' part(s) against the LLC and its directors.
>In case of a dispute (a lawsuit filed by a talent), the LLC would be the defendant but the lawsuit would also "pierce the veil" and the director/manager would be the defendant(s).
>The "blacklist" claim is a red herring. A list of people which MSM strongly suggests its talents not interact with may function as a blacklist, even without that name.
>As to the "Mad Scientist Media LLC" vs. "MSM Talent" it could be an issue (depending on Maryland law) if Mad Scientist Media LLC doesn't have "MSM Talent" registered as a d/b/a name AND used "MSM Talent" in official contracts.
>Coffee company = Phase Connect ????
>He protected himself with an LLC--that's normal. But multiple LLCs--that's very unusual. Why he had so many is strange.
>>Not maintaining LLCs is totally normal.
>There's not enough evidence about the claims regarding allegations of Seth's doxxing.
>Seth and False both need to be careful about defamation.
>>There's a line between protecting your talents and lying about others.
>LM says that Seth is technically committing a misdemeanor by operating with the forfeit LLC. [Note from me: it seems LM doesn't know about the new MSM, LLC of NM.]
>Forfeited LLC means no lawsuit FROM the LLC, but does allow lawsuit AGAINST the LLC.
>Now, to the contract!

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>>76114164
Randonstock Neuringwatch anon here, It's a new week so lets do a quick lunch review!

ANYCOLOR AND COVER RISE TOGETHER
Both Anycolor and Cover have risen by the same amount today, as they both head to lunch at 2319 yen (+59) and 1942 yen (+59) respectively. Outside of the first hour where Cover was erratic, both are on the same trajectory as of the last hour and a half. Still, there's a lot of hours left so who knows what happens.

OTHER:
Speaking of rising, the Nikkei has risen up by 1.44% today.

That's all for now, surprisingly not much to write about when they're at the same pace. I'll see you all in 3 hours.

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Lawyerman said Krimbo was right.

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>>76193538
>[Note from me: it seems LM doesn't know about the new MSM, LLC of NM.]

He did briefly touch on this; basically that even if its registered in another state, if it's saying it's doing business in MD, it needs to be registered there due to state laws stating as much (i.e. the misdemeanor risk).

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>>76194478
Seth never claimed that it was Kabhaal getting Seth's excuses and lies confused with the truth.

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>>76113924
Word beaters worshiping Ameglia now?

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>>76194932
What the fuck are you talking about...?
And why did you quote me to talk about it....?

I'm talking about the Legal Mindset stream, if you got lost on who "he" was in that other post

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>>76197155
Inserting commas, I *think* he means to say that Seth never claimed there was an LLC in NM, and that info instead came from Kabhaal, who was merely getting mixed up. Maybe.

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>>76193538
I don't have a bulletpoint but adding on to this he went over the contract on stream but started pointing out that the contract is non-enforcable and that the LLC cannot bring lawsuits against anyone, even in defense of their own talents, due to the LLC not being active, and that talents can essentially walk and the LLC cannot sue them over it.

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>>76198428
>that talents can essentially walk and the LLC cannot sue them over it
Already the case, according to Seth. This isn't a possessive talent agency in the Kurosanji sense, just a service you can take or leave at will. (Except maybe in the case of Grimmi, who has gotten herself in deep hot sauce.)

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>>76198680
well let me rephrase that, there is a window where they could have technically sued for breach of contract for leaving without 30 day notice, however they don't have to abide by the 30 day notice due to the LLC being in forfeiture. My apologies, my previous wording was bad.

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Coqui stream about the situation has started, still in the intro phase

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>>76198838
Oh she's in the verge of crying. This is hot.

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>>76113959
Here's the text of the MSM contract:

TALENT MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT

This Talent Management Agreement ("Agreement") dated ______ ("Effective Date") by and between Mad Scientist Media LLC, a limited liability company duly organized under the laws of the State of Maryland ("Manager"), and ______ (the "Artist"), an individual over the age of eighteen residing at _____.

WHEREAS, Manager is in the business of providing management services;

WHEREAS, Artist seeks to engage Manager to obtain its services;

NOW THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants and agreements herein and other good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which is hereby acknowledged, the parties agree as follows:

1. DEFINITIONS.
a. Agent: Any individual, group of individuals, entity, or group of entities who are engaged to solicit the commercial exploitation of Artist's services, name, image, likeness, life story and/or brand.
b. Games Industry: All services and activities in any way related to the video game and tabletop games industry, including, but not limited to, promotion, character modeling, and advising.
c. Gross Income: Gross Income shall include all earnings, fees, advances, royalties, gifts, bonuses, shares of profit, shares of stock, partnership interests, revenue shares, the total amount paid for motion picture or other entertainment packages, and all other consideration, earned or received, directly or indirectly, by either the Artist or Artist's assigns, or by any other party on Artist's behalf, in any way related to Manager's performance of the Services. For avoidance of doubt, Gross Income shall _not_ include:
__i. Revenue generated directly from streaming and social media platforms, including donations, subscriptions, Bits, etc. (whereas revenue derived from the activation of any sponsorship or other engagement on streaming or social media platforms in which Manager performs Services in relation thereto shall be included in Gross Income);
__ii. Personal Engagements;
__iii. Third Party Engagements;
__iv. Any existing agreements for engagements which were in effect prior to the execution of this Agreement, unless Artist requests that Manager performs Services in relation thereto.
d. Media Production: All services and activities in any way related to the television and film industries, including, but not limited to, promotion, onscreen and in-person appearances, acting, guest appearances, advising, and commercial productions.
e. Music Industry: All services and activities in any way related to the music industry, including, but not limited to, promotion, music production, mixing & mastering, live event appearances, guest appearances, collaborations, and commercial productions.
f. Personal Engagements: engagements the Artists is managing on their own behalf, without the assistance of Manager's Services.
g. Streaming Industry: All services, platforms, and activities in any way related to the livestreaming of content on the internet, and any services, platforms and activities in any related to the video reproductions of any livestreamed content or such other audio/visual content on the internet. For the avoidance of doubt, such platforms include, but are not limited to, Twitch, YouTube and Facebook.
h. Third Party Engagements: Engagements secured by a third party, like an Agent, in which Manager does not provide Services in relation thereto.
i. VA Industry: All services and activities in any way related to, without limitation, podcasts, audiobooks, commercial voice acting, audio production and mixing, TV voice acting, motion picture voice acting and any other exploitation of Artist's voice acting abilities.

2. TERM.
a. This Agreement shall be in force and effective from the Effective Date for a period of one year, and shall automatically renew for a period of one year, and shall automatically renew for periods of one year thereafter unless otherwise terminated or not renewed in accordance with the terms of this Agreement (hereinafter, "Term").
b. Either party may elect not to renew the Agreement upon written notice to the other party at least thirty (30) days prior to the expiration of the Term. Manager shall reasonably inform Artist of the renewal date within sixty (60) days of such.

3. NON-EXCLUSIVITY.
a. This Agreement is non-exclusive, and Artist may obtain similar management services so long Services under this Agreement are not impaired. Artist shall timely notify Manager when such additional services are secured to determine whether collaboration is required at any point.

4. TERRITORY.
a. The territory of Manager's representation shall be worldwide (hereinafter, "Territory"). Management encourages the Artist to find alternate assistance for work outside of the United States.

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>>76199678
5. MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
a. Artist hereby retains Manager as Artist's non-exclusive representative, throughout the Territory, for management, representation and advising in the Streaming Industry, VA Industry, Games Industry, Music Industry, Media Production and any other industries they wish to engage Manager on during the Term, and any extensions thereof. Manager shall also render such services as are usually performed by an Artist's manager including by not limited to:
__i. Advise Artist and their Agent and/or attorney during ongoing negotiations related to the employment, or exploitation of Artist's talents and the products thereof;
__ii. Supervise Artist's professional employment and engagements, and on Artist's behalf, to consult with employers and prospective employers so as to assure the proper use and continued demand for Artist's services;
__iii. Be available at reasonable times and places to confer with Artist in connection with all matters concerning Artist's professional career, business interests, employment, and publicity;
__iv. Advise on the exploitation of Artist's brand in all media, and in connection therewith, subject to Artist's approval and direction, to approve and permit for the purpose of trade, advertising and publicity, the use, dissemination, reproduction or publication of all Artist's intellectual property and publicity rights, such as Artist's trademarks, copyrights, name, likeness, facsimile signature, voice, and artistic and musical materials;
__v. At Artist's direction and subject to Artist's approval in each instance, engage, discharge and/or direct Artist's Agent, as well as other third-party service providers for the benefit of Artist (collectively, the "Services").
b. Artist, in their sole discretion, may submit Personal Engagements or Third Party Engagements to the Manager for advising thereon and for the performance of Manager's Services related thereto. Accordingly, by definition, such matters shall thereby cease to be Personal Engagements or Third Party Engagements and all revenue in relation to such shall be treated as Gross Income.
c. Artist must consider any proposed advice and/or activities suggested by Manager in good faith using Artist's reasonable business judgment and after conducting reasonable due diligence on the advice and/or activities proposed by Manager. Nonetheless, Artist shall have the final approval of all contractual terms and Manager shall not enter into any contract or binding agreement without Artist's express written approval. Manager and Artists shall keep each other reasonably informed of all material matters relevant hereto.
d. Subject to Section 6, Manager's Services shall also include: (i) the collection and receipt all Gross Income intended for Artist and deposit or cash any and all checks and/or other negotiable instruments of any nature and to deduct therefrom and retain any and all sums due to Manager; (ii) compensating and paying out of Gross Income all sums due to any third parties who rendered services to or on behalf of the Artist or who are otherwise contractually entitled to such compensation; and (iii) the right to demand, collect and receive all goods, claims, money or other items that belong or may be due to the Artist.
e. Manager's Services shall not be exclusive to Artist. Nothing herein shall be construed as limiting Manager's right to represent other persons whose talents may be similar to or who may be in compensation with Artist, or to have and pursue business interests which may be similar to or may compete with those of Artist's. Manager shall use its best efforts to exercise fair and reasonable business judgment in such circumstances.

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>>76199810
6. COMPENSATION.
a. Manager shall receive a fee of _fifteen percent (15% of the Gross Income)_ due to Artist (hereinafter, the "Fee"). As specified in Section 1, Gross Income is determined in relation to engagements where the Manager performs Services.
b. Artist shall direct any third party to make payment of all Gross Income directly to Manager. Following the receipt of Gross Income, Manager shall deduct the Fee and remit the remaining sum to Artist within fourteen (14) days. In the event that any Gross Income is received by Artist, Artist shall pay Manager the Fee within fourteen (14) days of receipt.
c. Manager shall be entitled to the Fee for all Gross Income received by Artist after the Term for matters or engagements in which Manager provided its Services during the Term.
d. In the event that Artist receives stock, membership interests, or membership units as part of their Gross Income, Manager shall be entitled to its Fee upon any liquidation thereof, as taken from the value of liquidation, regardless if such liquidation during the Term or not.
e. In the performance of the Services, Manager may incur related expenses. Subject to Artist's prior approval, in writing, such expenses shall be reimbursed to Manager from the Gross Income, in addition to Manager's Fee. Manager shall provide Artist with all related receipts and invoices regarding such expenses subject to reimbursement within seven (7) days of reasonable request by Artist.

7. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.
Artist hereby grants to Manager all rights necessary for Manager to utilize Artist's name, logo(s), image(s), video(s) and other materials and non-confidential information provided by Artist (collectively hereinafter, "Artist Materials") at such times as Manager may reasonably designate in furtherance of Manager's performance of the Services during the Term. Nothing herein shall be interpreted so as to convey any rights in or to the Artist Materials other than the limited license for Manager to utilize such, and create derivative works therefrom, in performance of the Services. For the avoidance of doubt, and in accordance with the terms herein, Manager shall retain any and all rights in or to such derivative works only.

8. BOOKING AGENT.
It is further understood and agreed by and between the parties hereto that:
__a. the obtaining of employment, sponsorships, appearances, or similar commercial engagements for Artist by Manager is not an obligation of Manager under this Agreement and that Manager is not an employment, theatrical, booking, or talent agent;
__b. that Manager has not offered or attempted or promised to obtain, seek or procure employment or engagements for Artist; and
__c. If so directed by Artist, Manager shall provide assistance, as reasonably necessary, and consistent with the scope of Manager's Services, to Artist's Agent in their in negotiations with third parties for the purpose of obtaining engagements for Artist; in which event the compensation to be paid to the Agent shall be paid by Artist in addition to the compensation payable to Manager hereunder.

9. TERMINATION.
a. In addition to the termination rights stated elsewhere herein, either party shall be able to terminate this Agreement at any time, upon thirty (30) days written notice.
b. This Agreement may be terminated immediately upon written notice by a party if the other party (including its principals):
__i. Commits a material breach of this Agreement which is not capable of remedy;
__ii. Commits a material breach of this Agreement which is capable of being remedied but fails to remedy such breach within thirty (30) days of a receipt of written notice from the non-defaulting party specifying the breach and requiring it to be remedied;
__iii. Is declared bankrupt;
__iv. Is charged with a felony;
__v. Commits any act or makes any statement which might reasonably be expected be considered to be immoral, deceptive, scandalous, or obscene, or which may reasonably injure, tarnish, damage, or otherwise negatively affect the reputation and/or goodwill associated with the non-offending party.
c. For the avoidance of doubt, in the event of any termination of this Agreement, Artist shall have all rights to continue any business relationships with third parties which were previously managed by Manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76199876
10. ACCOUNTING.
a. Upon the reasonable request of Artist, no more than once per year during the Term, Manager shall provide Artist with an accounting specifying all Gross Income received by Manager on behalf of Artist in the prior twelve (12) months, describing the source thereof, and specifying, if applicable, all deductions and payments to third parties made therefrom, including, but not limited to, all expenses incurred and expended on behalf of Artist, Manager's fees and any loans or advances paid by Manager to Artist or on Artist's behalf either from Manager's funds or from Gross Income received by the Manager during such accounting period.
b. In the event that Artist receives any Gross Income, Artist shall be deemed to hold Manager's Fee, and the amount that equals any disbursements incurred by Manager on behalf of Artists, in trust pending payment to Manager in accordance with the terms herein. Upon reasonable request of Manager, no more than once per year during the Term, Artist shall provide Manager with an accounting specifying the amount of Gross Income, if any, received by Artist or by any other party on Artist's behalf in the prior twelve (12) months.

11. ASSIGNMENT.
Manager may assign this Agreement or any of the rights hereunder only to a business in which the Manager is a principal. Artist may not assign this agreement without Manager's consent, except to a loanout company in which the Artist is a principal.

12. REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES.
a. Artist represents and warrants that they are under no disability, restriction, or prohibition with respect to their right to execute this Agreement and perform its terms and conditions. Artist further warrants and represents that no act or omission by Artist hereunder will violate any right or liability to any person, including any third party intellectual property rights. Artist shall not violate any laws and, if applicable, agrees to obtain any licenses, permits, or consents by any state, federal, or other governmental authority or agency necessary for the operation of their business. Artist agrees to exert their best reasonable efforts to develop their career, and to cooperate with Manager to the fullest extent in accordance with the terms herein to develop Artist's career. Artist represents and warrants that there are no agreements to which it is or was a party that might conflict or interfere with, limit, be inconsistent with, or otherwise affect any of the provisions of this agreement or the right or ability for either party to perform their obligations hereunder.
b. Manager represents and warrants that it has the authority to enter into this Agreement and to be a provider of the services listed in Section 4 for Artist. Manager further represents and warrants that it has the experience, capability, and resources to perform the Services in a professional, timely, and competent manner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76199932
13. CONFIDENTIALITY.
a. The parties now own, and will hereafter develop, compile and own proprietary techniques, trade secrets, and confidential information which have great value in their businesses (collectively hereinafter, "Confidential Information"). The parties may disclose Confidential Information to each other during the performance of the Services. Confidential Information includes not only information disclosed by the parties, but also information developed or learned by the parties about the other party's business and its practices. Confidential Information includes all information which has or could have commercial value or other utility in a party's respective business, or the unauthorized disclosure of which could be detrimental to the interests of the disclosing party, whether or not such information is or has been identified as Confidential Information. Confidential Information also includes any and all information concerning discoveries, developments, designs, improvements, inventions, formulas, software programs, processes, techniques, know-how, data, research techniques, marketing, sales or other financial or business information, scripts, and all derivatives, improvements and enhancements to any of the above. Confidential Information also includes like third-party information which is in either party's possession under an obligation of confidential treatment.
b. The parties agree that at all times they will keep confidential and not divulge, communicate, or use the Confidential Information of the other party without the express written consent of the disclosing party except in furtherance of the Services, to the reasonable extent necessary. The parties further agree not to cause the transmission, removal or transport of tangible embodiments of, or electronic files containing, Confidential Information without prior written approval of the originating party.
c. The parties' obligations with respect to any portion of Confidential Information shall not apply when: (i) it was in the public domain at the time it was communicated to a receiving party; (ii) it entered the public domain subsequent to the time it was communicated to a receiving party through no fault of the receiving party; (iii) it was in a receiving party's possession free of any obligation of confidence at the time it was communicated to the receiving party; or (iv) it was rightfully communicated to the receiving party free of any obligations subsequent to the time it was communicated between the parties.

14. INDEMNIFICATION.
a. Manager shall defend, indemnify, and hold Artist harmless against any claims, causes of action, costs, expenses (including reasonable attorney's fees), liabilities, or damages suffered by either party and arising out of or in connection with any negligent act or omission, intentional misconduct, or breach of this Agreement by Manager.
b. Artist shall defend, indemnify, and hold Manager harmless against any claims, causes of action, costs, expenses (including reasonable attorney's fees), liabilities, or damages suffered by either party and arising out of or in connection with any negligent act or omission, intentional misconduct, or breach of this Agreement by Artist.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM9xduwTh9A
1) Regarding clipping videos

i. Clips are allowed to be published 30 days after the stream ends.

ii. Only clips of stream VODs are allowed (no clips of non-livestream videos)

iii. Video effects that alter the appearance of the people featured on stream are banned. (eg. changing their expressions, adding blushes, changing their hair or skin colors, etc.)

iv. Clipping rules may vary between each stream.

v. Refer to the games' streaming guidelines for clipping gaming streams.

2) Regarding video thumbnails. In order to avoid confusion and misunderstanding with Joe Rikiichi's own videos, the following are banned:

i. The use of official portraits of those who appear on the stream including those found on YouTube, X, the official website, and other websites.

a: This includes both Live2D, 3.0, 3D screenshots, stream captures, cropped thumbnails, song cover illustrations, reference material, and other official art.

b: This also applies to people who are mentioned but not featured on stream.

c: The use of traced art is also banned.

ii. Unauthorized use of fanart not drawn by the clipper.

iii. The use of art specifically created to be used by multiple clipping channel or to be shared among multiple uploaders.

The bans above also apply to the clippers' profile pictures and channel headers.

3) The scope of the guidelines:

i. The guidelines shall apply to all fanmade clips uploaded after May 19, 2024.

ii. The guidelines also apply to clips made from stream VODs before this date.

iii. The guidelines only applies to clips made from content uploaded to Joe Rikiichi's own channel. (An exception is made for compilation videos including a short excerpt of his POV for game things like game collabs) [Joe used Among Us as an example that would fall under this exception.]

iv. The guidelines only apply to clips uploaded to Youtube.

v. The guidelines also apply to clips uploaded to Youtube as Shorts. (The guidelines regarding thumbnails do not apply to Shorts since thumbnails cannot be set for Shorts.)

vi. The content of the guidelines (eg. The number of days that are to elapse before clips can be uploaded, etc.) is subject to change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76199986
15. GOVERNING LAW AND DISPUTES.
a. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of Maryland.
b. The parties hereto shall endeavor to resolve all disputes amicably, without the need for a neutral third party. Should Artist and Manager be unable to resolve a dispute amicably, then said dispute shall be resolved by arbitration in accordance with the rules and procedures of the American Arbitration Association (AAA) before a single arbitrator in Prince George's County, Maryland. The arbitrator will be instructed to award attorney's fees and arbitration costs to the prevailing party. The resultant decision shall be enforceable in any court having jurisdiction over the party to be bound thereby. With respect to any breach which is capable of cure (not to include the failure to provide services at a given place during a given time period) neither party shall be in breach of this Agreement unless the party fails to cure any breach within thirty (30) days of receipt of written notice of the breach. A waiver of any breach shall not waive a prior or subsequent breach.

16. MISCELLANEOUS.
a. Artist acknowledges that they have had the opportunity to consult with counsel regarding this Agreement. Paragraph headings are for guidance only and shall not be of any effect in construing the contents of the respective paragraphs. As the context may require, terms used in the masculine gender include the feminine gender and neuter, and terms in the singular include the plural.
b. This Agreement contains the entire understanding of the parties as to the subject matter hereof, and all prior Agreements as to such subject matter have been merged herein. This Agreement may not be altered in any way except by an instrument signed by the parties. This Agreement may be signed in counterpart (and/or facsimile and/or PDF), each of which shall be deemed an original, but all of which together shall constitute the Agreement.
c. If any provision of this Agreement is invalid, void or unenforceable, the remainder of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect. This Agreement is not a partnership or joint venture by the parties hereto and neither party is the agent of the other. This Agreement is not for the benefit of any third party, whether or not referred to herein.
d. Except in the event of fraud, gross negligence, or willful misconduct, neither party shall be liable to the other for any special, indirect, consequential or incidental damages (including but not limited to loss of profits) arising out of any performance or non-performance under this agreement, whether such claim for damages is based on tort, strict liability, warranty, contract or any other legal theory, even if a party is advised of the possibility of such damages. Manager's maximum liability to the Talent for direct damages under this Agreement shall be the aggregate sum of Fees paid to Talent under this Agreement in the prior twelve (12) months.
e. All notices, accountings, and payments from either party must be in writing and delivered either personally, by certified mail, or by email as follows:
To Manager: [redacted]
[redacted]
[redacted] MD, 20852 USA
Email: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
To Artist:
[redacted]
[redacted]
Email: [redacted]
f. Expiry or termination of this Agreement shall not release the parties from any liability or right of action or claim which upon expiry or termination has accrued or may accrue to either party with respect to any act or omission prior to such expiry or termination. Expiry or termination shall not affect the coming into force or the continuance in force of any provision hereof which is expressly or by implication intended to come into or continue in force on or after such termination.
g. Client has read and understands this Agreement in its entirety. Client acknowledges that if they had any questions about their rights or duties under this Agreement, that they had the opportunity to have the Agreement reviewed by their attorney prior to execution.

_IN WITNESS WHEREOF_, Manager and Artist have executed this agreement as of the Effective Date.

_MAD SCIENTIST MEDIA LLC_

DocuSigned by:
Seth Weinstein
Name: Seth Weinstein
Title: Owner / Talent Manager
Date: [redacted]/2022

_ARTIST_
[redacted]
23191 bytes typed out by hand, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76199193
I need to get enough sleep in time for work tomorrow morning, but do keep me up-to-date on all the latest drama happenings in and around Seth and MSM. Is she almost-crying about the blacklist or somesuch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200058
>spoiler
Good work and thanks for your sacrifice typeanon.

[Anonymous No.]

Brown idol redebut this week
https://x.com/nyaruchuuu/status/1792391997858394241

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
Dokibird wins Sajam Slam Tekken 8 Tournament with the rest of Team Brawlpro.
https://twitter.com/Sajam/status/1792409286016172351

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200129
She's already ugly crying and I'm rock hard. I'm just enjoying the moment. Maybe I'll check the vod later to know what she talked about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200058
Thanks for your work, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200058
Next time, remember https://rentry.org is your friend.

Thanks for the info, in any case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200129
She's going through a timeline of events with *some DM screencaps as proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200437
/lig/ is taking a ton of screenshots I will collect them post stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200051
The foreigners who like to manipulate images won't be happy...
Honestly, the fact he has to go this far to prevent dramamongers is kinda sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200490
>Seth is astroturfing /here/
Holy shit. What other corpos are monitoring this thread this very moment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200887
I thought this guy's relatively drama-free, what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

hey seth kys thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200051
And now you know why nijisanji can't expand

[Anonymous No.]

>>76201085
He's nijisanji, there's no nijis that are drama free

[Anonymous No.]

>>76198838
God damnit... This vtubing thing is getting less and less fun. Thought I'd be safe with the indies at least, but alas...

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
>>76200320

Related to this.
They got partnerted by Evo to go to the Evo Tournament this year.
And they have the option to participate if they want in this year.

https://twitter.com/Evo/status/1792375348396699890
https://twitter.com/Evo/status/1792400797189517399

[Anonymous No.]

>>76201758
>Thought I'd be safe with the indies
What? that's where the cesspool of drama ferments. If you really want safe, go to the big corpos and pray that their drama during indie days does not follow them there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76201085
A bunch of fairly minor things that people successfully blew out of proportion by removing context, one them being a joke song that made fun of Pekora. He was just riding a trend/meme but antis tried to frame it as a vicious attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76202092
wasn't that guelu? was joe involved somehow?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76202230
joe convinced guelu to write the song saying that there can only be one clown in this town.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76201758
It's not really her fault that a corpo is shitting on her and not taking any of the dozens of fig leafs offered to solve this behinds the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76202743
Oh, I'm not blaming her...

>>76202015
Yeah, that drama free world where the big corpo tries to cover up a suicide, and has such an insane cult-like mentality that they don't realize that publicly attacking a popular suicide victim is PR suicide, and then go above and beyond even that insanity, by doing it twice. Yeah, no drama there.

Meh, I'm used to the indies picking on each other and forming cliques, but not so much organized bullshit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76202230
Oh right, it's Guelu who also has a bunch of haters. Got them mixed up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76124361
>>76203167
I too am depressed.

My last bump for awhile. Hopefully someone will keep this alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76203167
>but not so much organized bullshit like this.

Sadly, it was only a matter of time. It's a shame it had to happen like this, but this is the unfortunate nature of spaces like this. As soon as fame and money get into the mix, the shittiest people possible start clamouring to get theirs, and as some get more desperate/ambitious, this stuff starts to happen more and more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
>>76114374
>>76114466
Coqui did her stream talking about the vtuber black list that MSM was running. She was very concise, with the vod being under an hour, and clipped by a lig anon here. It has a lot of shown documents about some events, although she did not show a lot of things out of other people's privacy
https://mega.nz/file/pQlkBBAB#9kJU_jxILGM8lgZ7B4a4qW-qCA10NS5ivJVZd-0Fb9A

Some bullet points:
>Coqui reiterates Multiple times not to go after vtubers or streamers for this as she believes that they were manipulated by Seth, and explicitly states she hopes some people, specifically tob, reach out to her stating "Tob I miss you, and I want to mend things with you. I mean that from the bottom of my heart"
>Coqui showed proof on screen that Krimbo, Herself, and 3am's manager tried to reach out to Seth from MSM to try and see if they could address and squash rumors one on one together. He ghosted them every single time.
>Coqui states that Sigrid and bird left the southsdie because she had goals that could not be achieved within the group. Coqui also states that Herself and Meat had a falling out with Sigrid and Bird in private.
>Sigrid Joins MSM, notices that people who they were previously friends with stop talking to herself, Meat, and the Southside after joining MSM
>Coqui learns late last year that Sigrid has been saying things about Coqui to other MSM talents, gets upset and banned Sigrid and Bird.
>Sigrid and Bird scrubbed all chat message history with Coqui.
>A bit back Coqui reaches out to Bird to try and see if things can be mended, but silence.
>States that Seth was interviewing both her and Tob around the same time, however they declined to pick her up. It was revealed later that Seth has bragged to others that the interview was a fake and he was never going to hire Coqui, and that soon after Coqui's vtuber group 3am announced her as a member, doxx appeared in the forms of both pictures and pastebin with personal information.
>Coqui also reiterates Meat's story of giving someone within MSM her personal information for an industry party that required personal info and the personal info soon after being posted online.
>Coqui notices people stop interacting with herself, Meat, Southside, and 3am towards the end of last year. They being to hear from parties both inside MSM and outside of MSM that sex has claimed that Coqui and Meat are serial 4chan doxxers and uses out of context 4chan posts to prove it. Coqui confirms Seth bragged to people at industry events and within MSM that he has a "pocket 4chan janitor" who tracks IPs of people he doesn't like, but he never showed talents any actual proof of this, and coqui points out how 4chan Janitors cannot see your IP, meaning Seth lied to people about this.
>Tob was originally slated to be part of 3am alongside the original launch group. Coqui showed unused art for the 3am Launch with her in it. She proceeded to show a timeline where Tob gets into MSM talent and is still planning to join 3am as well, similar to Geega being in Vshojo or buffpup being in VICHIBAN, until about a month before they start finalizing things that Tob backs out claiming she has an audition with 'Some other group' and didn't feel OK committing to 3am with that possibly in the works. A text is show on screen of the 3am talents being supportive.
>Not long after this, Tob ceases contact with them all together.
>Coqui confirms that this same sort of thing happened to Takahata 101 and showed texts turned over to her of people slandering taka
>Coqui says people who were close to Seth until recently told them that he had been badmouthing them, people in mythic talent, and many others at industry panels and events.
>Coqui also says other sources have said Seth is 'giddy" that 4chan has noticed him.
>After she stated this, someone dropped Doxx of Coqui in /lig/ with her full name and photo.
>Coqui confirms artist weren't paid by MSM and that it will be coming out soon
>Coqui apologizes to all her friends both inside and outside of MSM who got caught in the crossfire

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206625
>Seth bragged to people at industry events and within MSM that he has a "pocket 4chan janitor"

I wonder if I can get a vtuber gf by telling them my dad works at nintendo these women believe anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206625
Addendum to this post: As a Result of this stream, many in /lig/ are now convinced that Seth has been trying to astroturf his talents in /lig/ and has been the 3am anti/splitschizo who has actively tried to push Mythic and 3am talents out of /lig/and into their own threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76194322
>>76114164
Gawk Hawk anon here, it's time to close the chapter on today's activity.

ANYCOLOR ROLLS AFTER LUNCH
Anycolor stock went on a steady decline after lunch despite their beginnings today. They close out at 2292 yen (+32) as the 2300 barrier evades them for the day. A good sign for them as uncertainty still lingers on how they'll move going forward.

Another thing to note that while it's not a majority opinion yet, the stock has gained some favor amongst those that have voted in the JP board, currently a 52% majority still prefers to sell. Still It's no longer a overwhelming majority.

COVER FUMBLES AFTER LUNCH
Anycolor isn't alone however, as Cover takes a slightly harsher dip after lunch. They close out at 1908 yen (+25) for tonight, earning their way back into the 1900s for now. They're trajectory was almost the same as Anycolor's for the most part.

Surprisingly however, of the people that voted Sell was higher at Cover than Anycolor, with Cover at 62% and Anycolor at 52% as we mentioned before. Due remember however, both boards have a high variance in activity, meaning a vote has less/more weight depending on the stock. Still, Cover's board is way more popular so it's quite notable for a majority like that.

OTHER NEWS:
The NIKKEI fell after lunch slightly, they rose by 0.73% today.
Here are today's trading volumes:
Anycolor: 506k
Cover Corp: 6.8 Million
Over the weekend, the NijiEN/Chronair concerts were discussed on the Anycolor board. Some even pointing out that majority of the seats are currently empty, and doubting they'll get filled based on the M&Gs at Seattle with Anime Impulse and VRhapsody. Though some do believe that EN at the very least is "failing"
There was also discussion about the official subreddit and r/kurosanji, taking note that before the official subreddit's purge that it quickly became "a truly lawless zone." as one poster said, and acknowledging that r/kurosanji was of Anti-Nijisanji sentiment. Overall it's been acknowledged that Niji Antis want to destroy EN.
Whether this info/sentiment will bring any stock changes, I highly doubt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206933
HOLD IT
There seems to have been another update to Cover's stock price right as I finished writing.
Cover is now at 1914 yen (+31) instead. I apologize for the discrepancy. Take Cover's graph as reparations.

That's all for now, forward any questions here.
Also, the next two reports will likely be delayed to the morning/afternoon, I'll be out of town taking care of some grandmother. I'll see you all later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206625
>>After she stated this, someone dropped Doxx of Coqui in /lig/ with her full name and photo.
As in now? Or this was just recently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76207168
as in in real time as everyone in the thread was watching the stream it got reposted, at the exact time she was shitting on Seth for bragging about his 4chan connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76161874
was there no activity on any known RM accounts during her hiatus either?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76182692
If Seth is telling you the New Mexico LLC is his, that's another lie. The owner of that one is a Frank Mirabal, who, while he owns a podcast company, is definitely not Seth. You can find him on his Twitter @FrankMirabal. The only record that matches is the one in Maryland, which, if you check your contract, will say "Mad Scientist Media LLC" in the state of Maryland.

You can watch the Legal Mindset VOD on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSORxFYbXIc

[Anonymous No.]

>>76207220
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206625
>>76206840
Hope we get a public stoning of this guy. And get that janitor too while we're at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>76208064
There is no janitor, it's a lie he told people when showing them the 4chan screenshots to get them to believe it. A lot of people have no idea how this site or even IP tracking in general actually works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76208132
It’s obviously not true but the accusation that there’s a jannie leaking IP addresses is serious enough that it should lead to an official statement by the mods. They won’t though

[Anonymous No.]

>>76209643
you won't believe them even if there will be a statement, anyway
and I won't either

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206625
>Tob was originally slated to be part of 3am alongside the original launch group.
Liggermen had been suspecting it was the case because of that purple stripe in their logo

[Anonymous No.]

Remember that poll someone made in Coqui's chat about 3am members? Was Tob one of the people in the poll?

[Anonymous No.]

Help, I don't even like Seth but I still shitpost defending him because that feels like the funnier stance to take.
My brain is weird man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76211052
this is the news thread sir

[Anonymous No.]

>>76210806
considering she showed off this color coded concept art they were dead right too

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113924
bless your soul anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>76211067
No news but the msm thing, unless you find some juicier one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76209643
Jannies can't see your IP to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>76114466
Face verifications in order to be used as doxx material for the right price.
>>76213817

[Anonymous No.]

>>76124361

[Anonymous No.]

>>76174075
This is fucking worse than Kronii's default skirt wtf hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>76214543
Good thing most if not all of ID dont do GFE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76207307
I looked at Mirabal here:
>>76182393
>>76182926
If Seth wasn't 100% lying about the new LLC, then it might have been the Virginia one--but even that one wasn't set up in his name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76214543
Literally first line: "The Draft Revision" ...
So it's not approved yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76217663
Nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>76208064
>>76208132
I believe it could still be the vshojo personal janny due to the geega connection. They should fire him anyway just to be safe, even if it’s not real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76217945
firing a janny would imply he was employed and received payment...

[Anonymous No.]

>>76114164
VSpo starts the second batch sale of their gaming keyboard
https://x.com/Vspo77/status/1792510951448801550

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
News
>>76218881

[Anonymous No.]

>>76210890
Tob backed out at the absolute last moment

[Anonymous No.]

Why is there literally nothing on this board about the MSM drama? Coqui cried on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76221087
Read above and check the /lig/ thread during the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76221087
It's being self contained to the relevant threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
VAllure, the first EN lewdtuber corpo, sees their talents reach 1k subs in less than 24 hours, 2 weeks before debut. The interest for ex-Eien Riifu Evergreen's project remains high, as do the shilling and the anti-ing on /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>76221087
The catalog simply does not care about /lig/gers

[Anonymous No.]

>>76222755
Only Holos and only the "good girls" among them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
ACCELERATE

https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1792571002888872283

[Anonymous No.]

>>76224301
thats just the pearly gates, its over

[Anonymous No.]

>>76221087
Msm is a pretty big deal to the ones in the know, but as far as the general board is concerned it's about a company they've never heard about doing stuff to people they've never heard of

[Anonymous No.]

>>76221087
the catalog has been replaced by news and it was already covered

[Anonymous No.]

>>76224301
oh is this why they locked the subreddit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76224301
someone said this was just a quick edit of a freepik

[Anonymous No.]

>>76225225
after checking freepik, it looks similar to this guys "work", but all of his stuff is AI generated. It's most likely that they just used the same AI to generate their own gate.
https://www.freepik.com/premium-psd/iron-gate-isolated-transparent-background_83316462.htm#page=2&query=gate&position=37&from_view=author&uuid=c7289ba3-5191-46d7-a200-43ca937a8b59

[Anonymous No.]

>>76225901
you say that but it fucking overlaps perfectly other than the logo

[Anonymous No.]

>>76114466
A-are we the baddies?
>>76225978

[Anonymous No.]

>>76122027
This has potentially interesting reprecussions for Niji's ability to secure sponsors in the future. It's likely nothing visible will come of it, though.
Expect this to come up in any investor Q&As.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76207307
It's not Seth I got that from, I can say that for sure - and if it IS a lie, that's a hard confirm to me that he's been lying to EVERYONE involved in MSM.
And I did watch that stream, I've been keeping all of that in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76222124
Which one was Riifu Evergreen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76226959
Yeah, none of the other "Mad Scientist Media" LLCs I found were under Seth's name. Some states don't allow for search for names, but New Mexico does, and Seth Weinstein isn't an officer or the director of nor the registered agent for any New Mexico company. And MSM, LLC of NM’s Web-site looks very different from Seth’s content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76227559
Stronny

[Anonymous No.]

>>76228069
Yeah, as soon as this got pointed out, I decided to bite the bullet and just call the SoS offices. Also double checked to see if MSM was registered under a funny spelling or shorthand - NONE of the listings include Seth's name. Not even one.
Sat on hold for WAY too long, but the answer was indeed that the owner/agent would need to be transferred over if the parties currently listed were no longer a point of contact for the business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76219335
Would it be possible for you to clarify what Project Mitsuki actually was? I can't seem to nail down whether it was an actual vtuber, an agency, or a one-off collab album.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76229747
Forgot to include the relevant image

[Anonymous No.]

>>76229865
You'd have better chance asking that where it was posted. People who watch jp vtubers don't visit this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the round-up for today.
This one's a longer one again.

Hololive
>Towa unveils a new outfit.
>Chloe had a 3D Live on 5/18.
>Gavis Bettel celebrates his birthday and releases an original song, "unlucky".
>Ina'nis' next original song, "MECONOPSIS", will release on 5/20.
>Octavio releases a cover of Aishite Aishite Aishite.
>Mori is currently recovering from her knee surgery. Complications during the surgery have protracted the healing process, but she expects to make a full recovery after rehabilitation.

Nijisanji
>Aster debuts his new 2.0 outfit.
>Elira debuts her 3.0.
>ASAP Club has disabled replies on their tweet regarding the previously-reported mixing incident.
>Kotoka makes her first social media post since 4/13, congratulating Toru Koshimizu on their 3D debut on 5/17.
>Joe Rikichi posts new guidelines regarding clipping for his channel.
>Nijisanji JP will be doing a series of streams in collab with Solo Leveling, with 5 talents, 5/21~5/23.
>NijiEN possibly teasing a new wave.

Other Corpos
>Vallure begins showing full models and names for their upcoming talent.
>Riot Music, a JP Music group, announces it will close the Bakedol branch on 6/17, citing the indefinite hiatus of Dokuro Tenis as one of the reasons.
>Noah of NEXAS reveals that he has been doxxing himself the entire time, by using his real name as his vtuber persona's name.
>Kiki Shisui of 774 inc. announces her graduation in June. Her twitter will be terminated in July.
>Palette Project, a group under Brave, debuted 6 vtubers on 5/17 and 5/18.
>Ginga Alice of Balus will have a live concert for her 6th Anniversary.
>Leona Shishigami of Re:AcT will be collaborating with HICAT Energy Drink until 5/31.
>VPI Cafe will release a new album on 5/24.
>Ciel of Kamitsubaki Studio announces she will be suspending her activities indefinitely, effective 5/18. Projects currently in the works will release as planned.
>KMNZ unveils 2 new members and announces their debuts (as well as Lita's return) for 5/25.
>Nene Amano of kawaii Productions debuts a new nightgown outfit.
>Globie, an EU agency under Brave, announces vtuber auditions for their 3rd Generation of talents.
>VSPO! GEAR opens the second batch of gaming keyboards for members, from 5/20 to 6/3.
>Yuuhi Sendo of VSPO gets shouted out by YoutubeJP's twitter account.
>STPR's Rinu will appear on "N Star", a JP News program.

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[Anonymous No.]

Continued from >>76230673

Indies
>oshiSPARK announces ticket sales for a "Virtual Vacation" concert, featuring Bao, Mint Fantome, Utano Pandora, and Miori Celesta on 7/5 at the El Rey Theater.
>Vexoria the Sun Eater, giantess lamia lewdtuber, returns from her hiatus and celebrates her birthday with a new outfit.
>Reya, Empress vtuber, creates an interactive theatre play where Twitch can roll dice and throw things from the audience.
>Saruei, notable French /lig/ger, releases her "Teen Saruei" model, and also announces new merch, with pre-orders open as of 5/18.
>Bao the Whale's original song "52-hearts" hits 1m Youtube Views.
>Waffle In A Toaster, longtime indie of 3.5 years, graduated on 5/18. She cites reaching the limit of her character and wanting to pursue different goals as her reasons for graduating.
>Olivia Monroe, high-energy pink girl known for her role in the Yapping Singularity of 2024, suffers a Supraventricular Tachycardia event as part of her ongoing heart issues. Readers should be advised that SVT is not typically a dire condition, but it tires out the afflicted. Olivia is also known to currently be in treatment for the condition.
>Yura Rikudou, formerly of PRISM, announces a 3D Model, an original song, a phone wallpaper, and 2 free voice packs.
>Kaiten Tsuzuri announces a 15-year hiatus to avoid stalkers, doxxing, and other antis.
>CookieSwirlC teases an upcoming new outfit.
>Mint Fantome will be performing at Anime North's Truck Rave on 5/25.
>Kyou, ASMR Office GILF, is denied her appeal of the deletion of her Youtube channel, citing "kissy noises" as "too sexual" for the platform, despite previously approving it.
>Takeshi Okamoto, associate professor at Kindai University and a VTuber under the name of Zombie Sensei, has written a paper about the characteristics of media communication in VTuber content tourism, using the collaboration between Nijisanji's Suo Sango and Shima Spain Village as the main topic. It was published in the March issue of the Kindai Applied Sociology Review, Vol.12, No.02.
>Kashiko Mari, a JP indie, will have a live concert at Akihabara Entas on 8/31.
>Rica debuts on Twitch. If you close your eyes, you can hear the echoes of a certain blonde vampire being banned from Youtube.
>Shigure Ui releases a figure via Furyu Hobby Mail for pre-order.
>Nyaruchuu, Local Caramel Idol, debuts her 2.0 model on 5/25 @ 6p ET.
>Dokibird, along with the rest of Team Brawlpro, win the Sajam Slam Tekken 8 Tournament. Evo announces that the winners will be provided with flights and accomodations for Evo 2024. All Sajam Slam 2 participants will also recieve free registration for Evo, regardless of placement.

Other
>Gamer's Outreach charity annoucnes the 2024 Vtuber Summer Slam running from 6/26~6/30.
>NicoNico announces a vtuber week event from 5/26~6/1.
>WSS, a JP advertising agency for vtubers, holds a mahjong tournament featuring several vtubers.
>OffKai Expo will feature a concert of 6 vtubers from across the industry.
>The current draft revision of Indonesian Broadcasting Law would, if passed, require content creators to verify TikTok and Youtube content with the Indonesian Broadcasting Commission.

Local
>Ogey Calibur concludes, with Team {{{BIGGER}}}, consisting of /vtai/, /wAIfu/, /ag/, /swarm/, and /hag/, taking the victory.
>Ayamy wins Round 7 of IndieCar.
>Kitanya wins Round 8 of IndieCar.
>Shiki wins Round 9 of IndieCar.
>Delutaya wins Round 10 of IndieCar.
>Shylily wins Round 11 of IndieCar.
>Filian wins Round 12 of IndieCar.
>Shigure Ui wins IndieCar Series 13, marking her first win since IndieCar's inception in May 2021.
>VGTC Sign-ups will close at the end of May.
>VTRP will return on 6/2 for Formula Holo's 13th & 14th rounds.

Corrections
>Previous reporting mistakenly referred to Zaion LanZa as a "Graduated" talent. She was terminated.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>76226959
A guy who keeps skipping court dates might be lying? I don't believe it...

[Anonymous No.]

Continued from >>76230728

Coverage of ongoing MSM Incident(s):
Note from the Desk: This section will include a lot of social media activity and crossposting that is not typically covered or used in round-ups. Part of this is because the CEO is plausibly /here/ and attempting to bend the narrative. There is a lot of data, and we do not want to misrepresent the facts by leaving out potentially important information. Linked posts have been scrutinized for veracity, but readers are always advised to verify information for themselves, from the source, where possible. News round-ups do not use hidden sources or make their own speculations, except where explicitly noted, or clearly a joke. However, there are no jokes in this particular post due to the sensitive nature of the subject.
>Krimbo comes forward with more stories of blacklisting by MSM. Among these incidents include Seth (the CEO) claiming that vtubers he did not like were in fact 4chan doxxfags, falsely claiming that he was able to IP trace the posts back to those talents with the help of a janny he allegedly had in his pocket. Readers will note that this reality where run-of-the-mill 4chan jannies have the ability to IP trace individual posts is, in fact, not our reality.
>Seth quote-retweets False with a public statement regarding the allegations. He denies all claims, except that the LLC is not licensed in the State of Maryland, which he states this was being corrected.
>Krimbo went live shortly after this to react to it. During this stream, Meat stated in chat that she had given her personal information to somebody within MSM, then found that info leaked online later.
>MSM member Kabhaal quote-retweets Seth's statement, defending him and doubling down on specific statements. Bird the Robot of Sigrid & Bird retweets this statement. Kabhaal later apologized for issuing this statement, but did not issue a retraction.
>Lucy Pyre announces on stream that she left MSM due to "a difference in goals and mindsets". This marks the third MSM talent to leave the group, following Grape and F1NN5TER.
>Aethel addresses his awareness of the issue, claims he is not personally aware of the situation, and notes that he is currently in discussion with an independent legal team regarding the situation. He also states that his own brand is not MSM. While he states he is not aware of any negative experiences with MSM, he does not deny the allegations, and is interested in discussion of the blacklist allegations when more details come to light.
>Tiffany Witcher, former MSM talent, comes forward, stating that Seth tried to tell her that she could be "The Female HeavenlyFather", refused to allow her time to grieve or the ability to check accessiblity settings on a game (for her epilepsy), and has concerns that Seth can and would doxx her. She states that if her information winds up on 4chan "you know who did it".
>Fuuluulu, another talent that formerly worked with MSM, goes over her contract and corroborates it as being identical to the one FalseEyeD showed on a stream. She also states that MSM overworked and underpaid artists, forced her on probation for 2 months, and didn't get access to her business email until over a year after she was with the company. She also corroborates the accusations of favoritsm, internal cliques, and shittalking of other groups (such as 3am, Mythic, ect). As she feared having her information doxxed in retaliation, she opted to just distribute it openly herself. When she mentioned it to Seth, he claimed "being doxxed isn't that big of a deal".
>Krimbo posts an image from a Maryland legal website stating that LLCs cannot sue, but can be sued.
>Reda Ou, another Southside member, shows an excerpt from a Maryland statute stating that operating a forfeited business in Maryland is a misdemeanor punishable by fine (of up to $500).
>Legal Mindset goes over some of the details of the incident and legal complications surrounding LLCs. You can find a summary of that discussion here: >>76193538
>An anon transcribes the entire MSM contract. You can find that transcription starting here, but be advised that it is interrupted by a Niji news report (which has a youtube link at the top): >>76199678
>Coqui talks about her interactions with MSM and their blacklist. There are too many details to summarize in this post, so readers are advised to read this summary: >>76206625
>A couple of anons investigate Seth's claim that the LLC has been re-filed in New Mexico, only to find that Seth Weinstein is not an officer nor any registered agent of any New Mexican company, and that his name is not included in any listings affiliated with any MSM LLC, including alternative spellings and shorthand. The MSM LLC that exists in New Mexico has no discernable affiliations with Seth, despite his claims.

Please note that this is a story in progress, meaning new/updated information comes out constantly.
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[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
Adding on to the information about MSM CEO Seth, it was revealed last night that he has another company under his belt that's still servicing VTubers: a merch storefront called glitchless.gg. So far this company has provided merch websites for large indie and MSM talent GrimmiVT as well as large indie and close friend of Coqui's Laimu/Limealicious. Details and evidence relating to this finding can be found in the quoted post below
>>76206929

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231123
Thanks for the work Smol Ame!

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231123
Thank you smol ame poster, very long today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231215
This reply I'm about to make is purely speculation, but it's something that I think is worth consideration so I'm going to mention it here.

In response to this finding, Anons in /lig/ were wondering what damage Seth could do with this company and its position in the VTuber ecosystem, and someone mentioned an incident from years ago where small indie VTuber Little S operated the merch store for fellow VTuber and object of his affection Yozora Aoi. When Yozora rejected his advances, Little S became belligerent and threatened to dox every viewer who had bought something from her merch store. Anons were concerned: Would Seth really have the same kind of access to customers' information? And what would he be willing to do with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231123
I salute thee, smol Ame aka smol namesake of my grandma

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231123
damn special coverage from ame poster

[Anonymous No.]

>>76206625
>They being to hear from parties both inside MSM and outside of MSM that sex has claimed that Coqui and Meat are serial 4chan doxxers
I see Vallure is already causing freudian slips. (Sorry, need some comedy relief after seeing Coqui's stream.)

>>76181509
>I'm guessing this fiasco may not be ultimately a malicious
No, sadly, Seth and friends have been spreading vicious rumors about various talents in an effort to gatekeep and isolate groups and competitors, in addition to outright doxxing various vtubers, even /here/, noless. It's entirely malicious.

It may not yet be Nijisanji bad, as there still seems to be a profit motive behind the malicious behavior, rather than pure vengeful insanity, but if the company is allowed to keep rolling, it's only a matter of time before it gains a critical mass of yes-men and becomes a similar cult. Hopefully the negative PR they are picking up here and elsewhere will help prevent that, and we won't have to see more suicide attempts as the crazed group ostracizes its own for not fitting in with "the family".

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
Jesus Christ, this Little S guy sounds like a 13 year old on Xbox live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
>Little S
>Little_Seth
It all makes sense now

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
>Would Seth really have the same kind of access to customers' information?
Depends on how well-built his company is, and how much of sales operation is internal. Larger companies have legal teams and internal policies that prevent even those in authority from easily accessing that information without a blatant paper trail. A CEO can definitely get access to a random singular customer's data, but there would at bare minimum be evidence of access that he can't get rid of without looping more people in on his actions, including third parties. A lot of database tracking (particularly for sales) gets outsourced, so those companies would be the ones holding the data, and would be the ones asking questions if an executive were to come knocking for information.

MSM frankly does NOT sound terribly well-built, so I doubt they have a strong legal team or strong internal paper trails. You should assume that any and all data that enters the company is at Seth's disposal, especially considering the high likelihood of getting doxxed talents in the company seem to have. I haven't investigated how they do merch sales, but if it's not through a third party storefront, you should assume that yes, Seth plausibly has access to that data. And we have reasonable cause to suspect he would indeed use it.
Pic related.

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>>76232114

[Anonymous No.]

>>76232081
you are not wrong but that drama goes a bit deeper than what that anon is letting on

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
>When Yozora rejected his advances
actually they were in a "long distance relationship" (aka erping) and they broke up, and then someone kept sending him art of her fucking her mod which drove him to the edge
good times

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
Jeeze, maybe. He has the information, but I'm hoping he is the sort of snake that will simply go back into hiding under a rock, rather than lashing out after his house of cards has already collapsed.

But yes, he is /here/ and reportedly """someone""" already leaked Coqui's doxx in /lig/. I'm hoping that was a moment of rage, and he isn't capable of premeditatively leaking everything he has, but one who knows - would certainly be going out with a bang and a shitstorm. I'm sure deliberately leaking customer information would be a criminal act under some sort of law though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76232555
>leaked Coqui's doxx in /lig/
Dunno about the full doxx she claimed happened a while ago but I was lurking in /lig/ during this most recent stream and someone did post a pic of her pretty much straight after she discussed doxxing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231123
>A couple of anons investigate Seth's claim that the LLC has been re-filed in New Mexico
Correction: Seth did not make this claim. This assertion originates from Kabhaal, before his "jumped the gun" apology.
https://x.com/KabhaalVT/status/1791984714502328395
Kabhaal does not specify which state. I don't know where New Mexico specifically comes from, other than possibly that Seth's current state of residence is publicly known.
It is unknown why Kabhaal believes this to be the case in the first place.

As this is not Seth's claim, it should be noted that it directly contradicts Seth's statements of renewing the Maryland LLC, as such action would not be necessary if MSM was re-established in a different state.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
Jeeze, maybe. He probably has the information, but I'm hoping he is the sort of snake that will simply go back into hiding under a rock, rather than lashing out after his house of cards has already collapsed.

But yes, he is /here/ and reportedly """someone""" already leaked Coqui's doxx in /lig/ during the live broadcast. With luck, that was a moment of rage, and he isn't capable of premeditatively leaking everything he has, but who knows - would certainly be going out with a bang and a shitstorm. I'm sure deliberately leaking customer information would be a criminal act under some sort of law though.
[*typos]

[Anonymous No.]

>>76232114
I can make a dick joke outta this.
If you dont see me post anytime within 3d, you know what happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76230673
>>76230728
>>76231123
Based Smol-Ame poster

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
>if it wasn't obvious
What is the snake supposed to mean? I associate it with lolberts but not that design in green plus his posting isn't very live and let live

[Anonymous No.]

>>76232754
Distributing Personal Identifying Information without consent is a crime in every country with enforceable law. The actual punishment for doxxing varies by severity, scope of the leak, consequences of your leaking (some countries can hold you liable for any crime that is committed with the leaked info, even if you had nothing to do with it otherwise), exposure, and your jurisdiction of residence, but it is a crime everywhere that an actual justice system functions. Doing it en-masse can also be considered for various cybersecurity crimes, harassment, incitement, and a smorgasboard of other fun stuff depending on what happens after the doxx. And this is ignoring the civil liabilities from people that could sue him and the LLC (because remember, an LLC can be sued, but it can't sue).
Seth needs to exercise his right to Shut The Fuck Up, take his lumps, and get ready to lawyer up.
And remember, kids, the internet never forgets anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231215
More on Perfect Presence, while I'm here. The RA was Donald (Cortez) Fontaine III, who lived in a townhouse north of Gaithersburg as of 2019 when Perfect Presence, LLC filed for reinstatement. The townhouse was sold most recently in 2022, so Fontaine no longer lives there. Montgomery County public tax records don't show ownership names, so I can't say anything more on that front.
Perfect Presence, LLC was created in 2016, forfeited in 2018, reinstated in 2019, and forfeited again in 2020. [Note: for Perfect Presence, it took only four months to get the LLC reinstated.] In all of the documents, the LLC's business address, RA address, and mailing address has been the same address (which is identified as the home address of the RA, Fontaine, which, as I already mentioned, was sold off in 2022).
There's no Perfect Presence in New Mexico, and Fontaine's name doesn't return any results there, either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76113959
new Niji(EN?) member leaked
>>76228322

[Anonymous No.]

>>76233202
Nah, it's just that mock-up that ROFMAO made a few days ago.
It's even in this thread's OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76233202
No, it's the OC that ROFMAO made a few days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76233004
One of these days, Fontaine is going to ego search and be very confused.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, I'm not so good with law stuff, so correct me if I'm wrong:
If Seth had a CPA (he didn't in the initial filing, the Articles of Organization are publically available from the Maryland business search https://egov.maryland.gov/BusinessExpress/EntitySearch/Search and only list Seth's name) added or removed from the LLC, he'd have to file forms for that correct?
And those forms should be found in the same place as other records, right? Or does Maryland allow those to be kept from the public (although wouldn't that no longer be the case if the business is forfeit)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76233746
Well, there's a difference between "publicly available" and "available on the Web-site" (without paying MD extra $$$).
>added or removed from the LLC
If the CPA died, probably not until he got a new one (who would remove the old and add the new).
>CPA (he didn't in the initial filing
Given that Seth's name is given as the RA, he could have just been paying a CPA (or any tax lawyer/accountant) on the side for that and kept himself as the main connection.
This is the main problem, though:
>he'd have to file forms
Mad Scientist Media, LLC and Perfect Presence, LLC were both forfeited (and Perfect Presence was forfeited twice) because of a failure to file the right forms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76232745
>I don't know where New Mexico specifically comes from

Partially from a search through other state LLC listings: >>76159533
And partially from other anons in the thread: >>76180806

But it seems to have been largely debunked at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>76234052
>Well, there's a difference between "publicly available" and "available on the Web-site"
True, but they should still be in the list of options one way or another, correct?

>If the CPA died, probably not until he got a new one (who would remove the old and add the new).
And they should be shown somewhere in the listing if they were ever registered to the LLC, whether it be from adding them as an RA later or removing them, correct? There should be SOME sort of paper trail for that if it was ever actually done, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76234603
The problem that anon is pointing out is that there SHOULD be a paper trail, and the LACK of paper trail was what created the current problems in the first place.
Saying "the CPA should be documented" is moderately pointless when the core problem is LACK of documentation follow-through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76234603
>the list of options
For that, you should copy down the Maryland-assigned company number, and send an e-mail to a representative of the Secretary of State's office with an inquiry as to what documents are on file relating to the company. [You may also wish to inform them of Seth's current violation of the misdemeanor statute.]

[Anonymous No.]

We really need to assemble all this shit and start an MSM thread in the catalog, just to save both /news/ and /lig/, but I'm too lazy.

We're almost certainly going to hit the bump limit before 6PM PST, so I suggest the baker be ready as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76235305
you can always bring kuro back for a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>76200058
>weinstein
ahahahahahaha of course, as suspected

[Anonymous No.]

>>76225901
>>76225973
If it's a new EN wave, I am going to scream. I know Niji is incapable of reading the room, but jeeze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76232938
he was referencing the Gadsden flag, probably the anarcho-capitalist version specifically

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236359
Some anons already theorising it'll debut this weekend - to overlap the WrestleTuber event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236480
>Competing with one of the biggest Unity events of the year
>Involving multiple corpos and a huge chunk of the major indie pushers in the business
>When they can't even scrape the #3 spot in EN vtubing right now
Yeah that definitely sounds like Nijisanji's playbook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236359
>I know Niji is incapable of reading the room, but jeeze.
On the other hand, the situation probably won't improve for a long time, o it makes no difference to debut them now or two months later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236751
I won't be surprised if they've already been delayed for at least a month already

[Anonymous No.]

>>76231607
It's pretty clear based on this that it was an empty threat--just rage-bating. If he DID do it (and if Seth did it), they could be sued by basically everyone they doxxed for violating basic standards of business practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236751
At this point, new Niji debuts speak more of the talents debuting than the company they're debuting into.
If you don't do a google search on any company you're entering, you deserve to get fucked over.

>>76236831
Patternfaggotry put the timeline for NijiEN to debut a wave at about March, and a few graduations (and at least one un-graduation) happened in February, so I would say they've definitely been delayed a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236893
Somebody sufficiently self-absorbed will either not consider or not care about any legal consequences.
And besides, you can't un-doxx somebody. The internet never forgets, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76236972
>legal consequences
But those "legal consequences" would involve getting doxxed yourself--and by people none-too-sympathetic with your actions. I don't think Seth will do it at all, particularly the legal air currently floating about the VTuber community, but I wouldn't put it past him to doxx a talent or too. The doxx in /lig/ when Coqui was streaming and talking about being doxxed may just have been well-timed, but in any case it is suspicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237144
If the claims are to be believed (and imo they're getting more and more credible), then it seems pretty likely that Seth would be acting without fear of retaliation or consequence early on.
There will likely be more and more damage control happening as this spirals further

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237479
It was well-timed enough it feels deliberately orchestrated, like Coqui told someone to do it to play the victim. Seth would not benefit from those actions at all: Doxxing Coqui with that timing would do the opposite and hurt him by making the claims that he's a doxxer look more legitimate. There has yet to be any substantial proof that he's the one doxxing people; it's just Coqui at her word. If I were in Coqui's position, I'd ask someone like Meat to drop my doxx with that specific timing to concoct the illusion that everything I said was totally true without having to actually provide proof.

I'm sure I'm going to be told "Hi Seth" for pointing out a showman might be putting on a show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237839
The 3am girls are way more cold and calculating than their public personas let on.
I won't be surprised if Tobs started to get bad vibes from them, especially how they exclude and badmouth vtubers behind their backs and went for an organization that was far more professional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237839
If you want a more realistic take than both paranoid options some just took the dox that was already posted earlier and reposted it again right around that time
Very unsexy but so is the truth very often

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237839
>>76237920
nice attempt at bending the narrative here

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237839
She's not the only one making accusations of doxxing, and others involved have said they are afraid of being doxxed by him. (Tiffany's "if my information winds up on 4chan you know who did it.")

One does not always do things in one's best interest when one is angry, and then there's this exchange (>>76231607) suggesting when Seth gets angry, he gets angry, as well as other exchanges suggesting doxxing is his go-to for vengeance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237965
Is anything I said far-fetched, unrealistic, or impossible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>76238063
Extremely unrealistic, given all the facts on the ground, Seth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76237839
I also think it's unlikely--but not impossible--to have been Seth. I think you're discounting the likelihood of random antis doxxing her for the lulz, however, which seems the most reasonable. Her stream was (in your mind) a clout-chasing, victim-point-farming event--even so, it was focused on Twitch and Twitter, not 4chan, so why would she put in the extra effort to have herself doxxed in /lig/?

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>>76237839
>>76237920
Coqui and 3am gain nothing by making Seth look bad, and he's done plenty that he would be ostracized for without their input on the matter.
Yes, this particular incident benefits their argument in a vaccum, but given that there's evidence and accusations completely independent of Coqui and 3am, it is difficult to ascertain any benefit they get from providing more evidence of scumbaggery that we already know about.

Your argument, while sound on its face, ignores the bigger picture, so I'm going to have to say "Hi Seth" to this one.

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>>76238058
>and then there's this exchange suggesting when Seth gets angry, he gets angry
NTA but I want to make it clear that Little S is not Seth and that image is not a screenshot of Seth's words

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>>76238058
>Others involved
To my knowledge, the others are people in Coqui's immediate circle and "anonymous msm talents." Were there others?
That exchange doesn't have anything to do with Seth. Little_S is entirely unrelated. That exchange is fear-mongering over his potential for causing damage and is pure speculation. If you have evidence that suggests Seth often lashes out irrationally in fits of rage I'll gladly recant my position, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that and several things that suggest the opposite.

>>76238139
Would you like to name which parts and explain why, or are you throwing a tantrum because the ideas I'm exploring make you feel bad?

>>76238189
I will admit that random antis are a possibility I discounted, and random antis doing something immediately beneficial to Coqui is a possibility but one that isn't worth speculating about. It's a bit like Russell's Teapot because there's no way to know that for certain. As for why /lig/, it's an open secret that every single VTuber is /here/. Every single one. It would immediately give more weight to Coqui's claims among her peers because they saw her get doxxed immediately after saying Seth was going to doxx her.

>>76238271
Coqui and 3am benefit from this because it makes their claims look more true. If you prime the audience with "X is probably doxxing me," then get doxxed, the audience will immediately assume X did it. I haven't seen any receipts to verify that Seth has doxxed anyone, just Meat & Coqui saying that he probably did. By making it look like a sudden revenge-doxxing, they lend credence to their claims that Seth is doxxing them without having to rely on any form of evidence.

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>>76239016
>Coqui doxxing herself is beneficial to her because she is an insanely conniving person who planned to destroy MSM six months after her doxxing

You are the most Seth person to ever be Seth you little fucking weasel.

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>>76239016
>antis doing something immediately beneficial to Coqui
That's the thing, while it is beneficial to her in the long term, a random anti doxxing her is interested in short-term (You)s. And since you've mentioned Russell's teapot, I must bring up Occam's razor--in order of complication, (1) a random anti, (2) a disgruntled (but idiotic) Seth, or (3) another /lig/ger at Coqui's direction. I read many anons' salivating at Coqui's woman tears--what more needs be done to relish them than to doxx her in /lig/ just as she decries the horrors of the practice?
>several things that suggest the opposite
I agree. Based on what I've heard of what Seth's said vis-a-vis doxxing, his threats weren't promises but rather a scare tactic to keep MSM talents (apparently only some of them?) in line. The Little_S situation is a good comparator, but has led to some confusion.
As to your claim in response to >76238271, in my mind the timing is too close for that to have been the case--if it was planned, then it is too obvious.

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>>76239016
...and Tiffany, and Krimbo, and False, and Grape, and Fuuluulu, and Reda, and the other half-dozen folks they each bring up in turn... There are far too many people accusing Seth of blacklisting, doxxing, and being /here/ for it to all be a plot of Coqui's to frame him while she's bawling on stream, flipping through dozens of receipts.

I dunno what crack you would have to be smoking to ignore all that and try to pin the blame her like that. But hey, maybe you're not Seth, and some folks will just band behind a corporation in any given situation, regardless of the facts (even when said corp doesn't legally exist). God knows there's enough sisters running around backing a company's decision to openly attack a suicide victim with nearly a million subscribers. If some can say that was a good idea, surely one can justify anything.

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>>76240049
NTA but what would seths motivation be to doxx coqui to begin with? Do we know?

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>>76240379
intimidation into quitting
nothing scares a vtuber out of vtubing harder than the prospect of stalkers at her door
at least the smart ones, the stupid ones fleshcam

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>>76240379
>"Fuck that bitch, I'm gonna distribute her information in a hellhole site".
He was, by his own admission, 21 in 2017, meaning he was likely a summerfag AND an election tourist: crimes only outdone by being an obnoxious SEAfag.

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>>76240524
if they fleshcam they arent vtubers

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>>76240647
Don't tell them that! How else am I supposed to get feet pics?

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>>76239422
Occam's razor works against you here: You're adding in a 3rd party, who happens to coincidentally do it with that timing, who happened to save Coqui's dox from 6 months ago? It is a possibility, yes, but the timing was auspicious enough that any arguments in favor of it being a random anti apply equally well to it being an intentional self-dox timed for maximum emotional impact. Krimbo discussed in /trash/ that South Side (now 3am) deliberately pushed discussion of people on this board during partner pushes, and organized collabs to inflate viewercount to reach partner.

In other words, it is from their own mouths that we have confirmation that they DO deliberately attempt to manipulate the threads to their own benefit. Manipulation in this specific manner would be new for them, but manipulation as a growth tactic is something they admit to.

I don't think we'll come to a complete agreement on this. It's impossible to completely rule out the possibility of it being a random anti, but I personally find it less likely than something organized by 3am. I believe Seth is the least likely of the 3 possibilities because of how out of character it would be. The man is a lying weasel, and it's clear from his response to the drama on Twitter that he prefers to rely on spewing out constant lies to obfuscate the issue and waste time until the other party is bored. When pressed, he lashes out with LYING, not acts of vengeance.

>>76240049
>Reda
>Krimbo
Coqui's immediate circle.

>False
He's not just blacklisted by MSM, I know for a fact that "Avoid dramatubers" is one of the top things management companies of all stripes do because they are a massive brand risk. I fully accept that MSM told people to stay away from him but not because they wanted to defame him.

>Fuuluulu
If I'm not mistaken, that's the one that was asking the most insipid questions and belied an 80 IQ during the Legal Mindset stream last night. I'd discount nearly anything she said because she's clearly too stupid to understand a lot of basic concepts. She seems like the sort of girl that would struggle to understand things like "per capita." The part of the contract that specified the VTuber would be hereafter referred to as "The Artist" completely mystified her.

>Tiffany
>Grape
I haven't heard anything directly from them about doxxing. Did I miss something? What were their statements on the matter?

>>76240379
The common interpretation seems to be "he got angry and lashed out" which I don't find believable.

>>76240524
Coqui was already doxxed 6 months ago, getting doxxed a second time clearly wouldn't stop her.

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>>76240978
Shut up, Seth

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>>76240379
Anger while watching her stream, simple as.

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>>76113924
We're bumplimit/7. If the bread maker wants to make a thread before 6pm I'll back ya up by setting up an MSM thread in an effort to make it clean, I suppose, where Seth can try to throw shade on his enemies to his heart's content.

Either way, thanks in advance.

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>>76240978
>You're adding in a 3rd party, who happens to coincidentally do it with that timing, who happened to save Coqui's dox from 6 months ago?
This applies equally, if not with more force, to your argument with regard to Coqui engaging another VTuber to act on her behalf. There's not much coincidence here: Coqui's stream was announced, /lig/ is a well-known abode, and doxxes from far older than six months are kept "for the right time". There's no "3rd party" as there's only Coqui and the doxxer;--the question is just how planned would the doxx have to be.
Seth has the ability to dox Coqui, but probably wouldn't have held on to the specific doxx image which was posted (which had already been posted around, so I heard), so he's less likely. However, just as well, why would Coqui hold on to a doxx posted in /lig/ for use at some later time? The idea of re-posting a doxx of oneself for emotional benefit on a board devoid of emotion coincidentally timed to a comment made in a stream directed towards a Twitch and Twitter audience is far-out enough that I immediately thought of Occam's razor. I also don't know why it's so hard for you to believe that a random anon (of which there are many in /vt/ and were many at that time in /lig/) would not have a doxx folder lying about at ready disposal.
>Manipulation in this specific manner would be new for them, but manipulation as a growth tactic is something they admit to.
It's also quite a stretch to say equate "positive manipulation to reach Partner status" and "negative manipulation to push an agenda". This is especially so where, as here, her doxx is actually being spread.
>I believe Seth is the least likely
I agree (as I said above), but like the GURRAT it's more enjoyable to spread crazy-but-believable rrats than find out the truth.
>I don't think we'll come to a complete agreement on this.
Well, that's fine; this is /news/ after all, not a place for discussion, truly. It's been nice talking to you, Seth.

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>>76240978
>this is out of character for Seth
>but somehow totally believable for these vtubers
are you actually out of your mind or just playing devil's advocate for the sake of it?

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>>76241605
If we don't get an MSM thread in the 'log, it would be nice to have an MSM anchor in the next thread since it's such a big topic all of a sudden.

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>>76241605
I'm getting a bread ready now since it's page 9.
I'll post when it's ready or Page 10.

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>>76241685
>I also don't know why it's so hard for you to believe that a random anon (of which there are many in /vt/ and were many at that time in /lig/) would not have a doxx folder lying about at ready disposal.
It is not that it is hard to believe, it is that it feels less likely considering the circumstances. I consider it the second most plausible option.
>It's also quite a stretch to say equate "positive manipulation to reach Partner status" and "negative manipulation to push an agenda"
I don't think it is, frankly. Emotionally manipulating a community is emotionally manipulating a community. Whether you're talking about how great you are in third person to make them believe it or posting negative things about yourself to make them come to your defense isn't significantly different.
>I agree (as I said above)
Well, then I guess there's not much point to continuing the chain of replies. By the nature of imageboards it's impossible to make convincing arguments about the character and personality of the groups of people inhabiting a board and it comes solely down to one's personal experiences. I've personally seen enough VTubers doing things similar to this before that it's always my first explanation when it comes to things like this, and I expect you haven't had the same experience, so there's no way for me to change your mind short of forcing you to become a VTuber and experience things like that firsthand.

On the other hand, I also don't spend a lot of time on these boards, because 4chan post 2010 sucks ass.
>It's been nice talking to you, Seth.
It's been nice talking to you as well, Krimbo.

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>>76241827
Thread up: >>76242220
(I'm really lazy, so I more or less just copy-pasta'd Smol Ame.)

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>>76242251
>I expect you haven't had the same experience
Part of it, I suppose, is that my arguments are in some sense an abstraction: I haven't actually watched Coqui's stream, so I'm taking it the collectively anon-ity of /vt/ that she was actually, seriously, not-just-because-she's-a-woman-and-faking-it sad.
Similarly, you impute to /lig/gers at large the actions of a few, which, while probably not totally wrong, isn't strong evidence of any individual case, like this one, where there indicators contrariwise.
>Emotionally manipulating a community
I used "manipulation" as it was your turn, but I don't really buy the concept of "positive manipulation" sans "p-m-". That's just astroturfing. I also think that there's a clear difference between speaking about yourself in the third person to say that you're good, which is something people generally believe and want to have happen, with self-doxxing, which is generally bad and unwanted. There is an additional level of foresight and agency involved in deliberately self-doxxing to try to prove this point than is involved in sporadic astroturfing on /vt/, both in terms of patterns of behavior, the subject matter of the communications, and the relevance to specific, current events.

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>>76241793
The most important question for situations like this is "Qui bono?"
If Seth did it, his benefit would be an emotional rush from taking revenge, and the drawback would be proving Coqui, Meat, etc correct, endangering his fake business, and destroying his own revenue source. I haven't seen anything that suggests he chases those rushes, much less at the cost of income.

If a random anon did it, the benefit would be an emotional rush from (you) farming, with the drawback of getting banned for a few days.

If someone from 3am did it as a false flag, the benefit would be proving Coqui correct while smearing Seth, and the drawback would that Coqui's doxx (which is already available) would become slightly more well-known. I HAVE seen things that suggest 3am uses manipulative tactics like this in both /lig/ and formerly /wvt/. Krimbo accidentally revealed that they did that on-stream and then tried to play it off as normal in /trash/.

>>76242691
>There is an additional level of foresight and agency involved in deliberately self-doxxing to try to prove this point than is involved in sporadic astroturfing on /vt/,
This is a very good point that I hadn't thought to address because I take it as read that women do that constantly. I can't really address it past the endless stories of women doing similar things. A woman loves to be a victim because she can get others to attack her "aggressor."

[Anonymous No.]

NEW BREAD
>>76242535
>>76242535
>>76242535
That'll be $7.25 + Delivery Fees.

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>>76242251
>random anon doxxing for laughs
>second most plausible option

You DEFINITELY ain't from around these parts

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>>76243088
I'm from when these parts were good and worth posting in, now get off my lawn you damn youngin.

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>>76242879
>A woman loves to be a victim
But "a woman"--not necessarily Coqui. My point there is that it is more intellectual work to impute to VTubers the deliberate self-doxx to prove a point than the benign, astroturf-lite self-posting. In the first place, it's a bit of a stretch even to say that people are /here/ -- then after that to say that they post things about themselves (I am here) -- then to use posting in /lig/ to prove a point (you are here). I don't really have much experience, so I can't say, but are all women really like that, 4chan?

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>>76243301
You're already doing the math, you basically have your answer already - when there is doubt, doubt

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>>76242879
>the drawback would be what literally every vtuber actively tries to avoid
>clearly this is the most plausible option
you are just pretending at this point. or your entire basis of argument is "A woman loves to be a victim", which makes you an actual retard.

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>>76243301
>it's a bit of a stretch even to say that people are /here/
I take it you weren't in /wvt/ 3 years ago when everyone was roasting Krimbo's perpetually shit takes and all of Southside was selfposting. They're here. They're just less obvious about it now.

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>>76242691
You should really watch her stream before making any comments on the subject, there's a whole lotta receipts and verifiable stories therein:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2150415495

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>>76242879
>I haven't seen anything that suggests he chases those rushes, much less at the cost of income.
Then you've not been paying attention.

I've some doubt it was actually him rather than some random Anon, but so many different people have described this as his MO, in addition to reporting him /here/, it'd hardly be a surprise if it was. It'd be way beyond what Coqui could pull as a false flag though, as anyone who watches her knows.

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>>76243817
I've seen a lot of people that describe it, but they're consistently the people who would benefit from that belief becoming widespread and I've seen no firsthand evidence for it. Instead of getting angry on twitter, he spewed a bunch of lies, which is firsthand evidence against it.

I could see someone such as Kabhaal doing it, because he flew off the handle and insulted people, which leads me to believe he would fly off the handle, but I haven't seen anything firsthand to suggest Seth does that.

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>>76243517
I mean as a formal / logical-argument manner--you have to assume the characteristics of a group based on the known actions of a few, and then attribute those known actions to people who are not known to have done them. That would be required to say that Coqui reads or posts on /vt/, /lig/, /wvt/, /wasp/, &c. Now, given the voluminous evidence (especially historical), it's not a HUGE stretch, but it is still a stretch.

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>now accuses random other people as long as it isn't seth
the big wew

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>>76244127
>/lig/, /wvt/, /wasp/
The archives have ample evidence of /wvt/ in its early days, but I'm not certain about the other two. It is unambiguous that she reads and posts on /vt/ because she brought it up on stream. It is a very small stretch to assume that she went from /wvt/ to /lig/ when she was big enough to get posted on /lig/.

>>76244173
What's it like being so low IQ that you can't understand what a hypothetical is? How do you get through life when you have to make a choice? Do you automatically take the first one because you don't have the ability to model the consequences of the second?

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>>76243985
I don't doubt his ability to sound professional when he needs to, that's probably been the only thin wire holding the non-existent company together until now, but I'm sure I could say the same of the CEO of WACTOR, and it certainly wasn't in their interest to go doxxing. The guy just has far too many accusations against him by too many separate individuals (in some cases unrelated individuals) not to be dirty on some level. Smoke, fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>76244469
damn you get upset when disagreed with huh
why is that

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>>76244520
We know he's dirty on several levels, such as running a company using an expired LLC, not paying taxes, and being in breach of contract. However, being a financial scumbag doesn't mean he's doxxing people, it just means he's jewish.

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>>76244665
Well the thing is, not many of the dozens of people accusing him of shit are accusing him of any financial harm. Financial shady dealing, yes, but not direct harm to them. They are, however, accusing him of doxxing and blacklisting, as well as citing the same being done to dozens of others who haven't come forward to confirm or deny, while some have said they live in fear of his doxxing them and have responded to threats to that effect, even by preemptively doxing themselves.

He's young, angry, irresponsible, and in over his head, and in this industry, that combination often leads to exactly those sort of responses: spreading rumors and doxxing. We've seen it time and again, by people and organizations with a lot more to lose. No reason to think or say it's different this time, save to be a contrarian, unless you're Seth.

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>>76244520
On the topic of your WACTOR comparison, I think it's also a difference in culture and in time. Based on his public pronouncements and, apparently, based on what he's been saying to the MSM crew behind closed doors, Seth knows how to act professional, and even be professional, on occasion. This leads me to believe that he would never do anything so obviously both unprofessional (at a time when he is being heavily scrutinized) and bad for his position as doxxing a talent. His response on Twitter shows that he wants to come out of this with a working company--doxxing people as he is now accused of doing would be a good exit, not a good (re-)start.

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>>76245143
Given all the people coming out of the woodwork accusing him, I think Seth has to be entirely capable of unprofessional conduct, especially if he can do it while posting anonymously. I'd potentially lay the blame at people directly under him, at the furthest, but there are apparently not many of those. Even if he's not responsible for this latest doxxing, he's clearly been claimed as responsible for so many others that it would make his responsibility for this one a natural assumption. It's extremely unreasonable, at this point, to assume too professional to be doxxing people, while also being so unprofessional that he'd let his LLC lapse, among a great other number of procedural faux pas.

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>>76245092
>We've seen it time and again,
Don't include "we" here, because I haven't heard any stories like this before. Can you name a few that have done that for me? Spreading rumors and blacklisting people is entirely expected from a management company because certain people are a brand risk because of actions they've taken in the past. The line between "tortuous interference" and "sensible business practice" is very fuzzy there.
>some have said they live in fear of his doxxing them and have responded to threats to that effect, even by preemptively doxing themselves.
I haven't seen anything like this either, I've only seen Coqui and her circle making claims and not backing it up. Do you know of any examples?

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>>76245577
You clearly aren't even reading the thread.