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Why is it always Kuzuha that get to collab with E-celebs? What privilege does he have to be in this position when Hololive is way bigger and more influential than Nijisanji?

>> No.7574022

He is the king

>> No.7574033

>>7574008
Hololive is an idol group, they dont consort with ecelebs, it's below them.

>> No.7574035

>>7574008
t. nijinigger

>> No.7574068

>>7574008
Whom is he collabing with?

>> No.7574113

>>7574068
yamda ryosuke from johnny's idol group hey! say! jump

>> No.7574114

>>7574008
He's big with normie gamers in JP, he's like Ninja or whatever the fuck kids watch these days on twitch. Hololive is otaku watching girls, it's a whole different demographic that watches them.

>> No.7574125

>>7574068
Stylish Noob
And a boyband guy (Hey! Say! Jump!)

>> No.7574140

>>7574008
>Hololive collabing with men
Gee I wonder anon. Everytime I've seen Kuzuha and Kanae collab with e-celebs it's always dudes.

>> No.7574163

>>7574008
More importantly what's with Japanese music scene and APEX and why I keep seeing big names there suddenly collabing with chuubas I watch in APEX

>> No.7574164

>>7574008
Good, keep Hololive away from e-celebs as much as it can be

>> No.7574180

>>7574008
He isn't a cringe wannabe idol who panders to coomer puritanfags for starters

>> No.7574185

>>7574008
He's bigger than everyone but Pekora and she doesn't collab with males.

>> No.7574245

>>7574163
APEX is just too good probably

>> No.7574248

>>7574163
Apex is the biggest game in japan right now.
It’s not too unlike drake collabing with ninja in fortnite

>> No.7574259

>>7574164
To be entirely honest HoloJP members would jump to eceleb collab given chance. It's hilarious seeing people singling out Ollie or Moona for fawning over 3D ecelebs for some reason (the reason being that most people here don't understand Japanese and don't watch JP)

>> No.7574292

>>7574185
>He's bigger than everyone but Pekora
Bro??? He only has 900k subs.

>> No.7574302

>>7574259
>Ollie or Moona for fawning over 3D ecelebs
That's nothing on holostar Rikka in JP Fandom. Guy collab with well-known japanese VA like Kana Ueda and Takuya Eguchi

>> No.7574310

>>7574259
People only RECENTLY knew that HoloJP love Hikakin and follow him on Twitter after their reactions to his Vtuber debut got clipped. How many anons understood what Akukin even referenced is less than 10 probably.

>> No.7574324

>>7574008
he's attractive enough to be a model irl. it's also why the old hag can't resist his charm

>> No.7574326

>>7574292
I guess they mean liveviews, he does get #2 to Pekora some days. I wouldn't say he's bigger than like, Marine though.

>> No.7574334

>>7574302
I mean HoloJP girls specifically. Rikka is an old man with extensive connections already given his roommate background and most people don't care about male collabs with ecelebs including most male fans because they're not schizos.

>> No.7574348

>>7574302
It's fine for Holostars, no one cares what they do.

>> No.7574358

>>7574324
WARAWA IT'S NOT FAIR I WANT VAMPIRE COCK TOO

>> No.7574386

>>7574334
>>7574348
Well, OP is wondering why Kuzuha, a male nijisanji, get more collab with e-celeb when they could go for more famous Holo. So I answer him with Rikka.

>> No.7574405

seethe

>> No.7574423

>>7574386
Rikka has like 100k subs and 1k views normally the Niji guy has almost 1M and gets 20k+ normally..so yeah....

>> No.7574449

>>7574324
I can't believe Anycolor is renting out his boypussy in order to secure these collabs.

>> No.7574529

>>7574423
Well at least he close to him in terms of celeb collab instead of numbers.

>> No.7574559

>>7574008
If Hololive didn't choose to cater to idolfags for quick profit they could get along with all those big celebs as well

>> No.7574574

>>7574529
Apex collab with the #1 male vtuber, one of the moat popular boybands, and the 2nd biggest fps streamer in Japan: Big numbers because fans of these ecelebs watch streams
Rikka collabing with his seiyuu friends and singing: Small numbers because fans of those ecelebs arent watching streams

>> No.7574590

pretty big shit, but it will never beat gura or coco.

>> No.7574596

>>7574033
That explains Miko and Pekora craving the dick of that youtuber who Kuzuha and Hal collabed with.

>> No.7574611

Hololive is a closed group, they collab with each other and keep their audience in their circle. Opening that circle to collab with e-celebs or less popular vtubers will lead to a part of their audience leaving them to check out their collabs partners. Once the Hololive fad blows over, probably in the middle of 2022 or 2023, Hololive will open up again

>> No.7574618

holofags: fuck those normie e-celebs we must gatekeep Hololive from then
Also holofag: why can't we have that big normie numbers :(
Wtf is wrong with you

>> No.7574734

>>7574590
>an ugly rigging job (lol rhombus) and a graduation
Damn the creativity Cover exudes is mindblowing.

>> No.7574789

>>7574386
>OP is wondering why
You damn well that he's just trying to bait like the previous dozen threads about this.

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>>7574734

>> No.7574910

>>7574618
yeah those are definitely the same people

>> No.7574992

>>7574008
>E-celebs
Ryosuke Yamada is bigger than an e-celeb you ignorant fuck. I know anons on this board know nothing about idolshit but fuck, at least do some research. Idols are more than AKB.
>>7574163
APEX is the biggest game in Japan. Utaite like Mafumafu is friends with Fuwa's roommate. Ras from CR (one of the best APEX players) is a huge fan of utaite Amatsuki who is now in CR. Nqrse, another utaite, used to be into APEX before the big surge and now's coming back.
>>7574259
Most e-celebs are shit. Especially Anitubers. Stylishnoob is not shit, is an old god of JP FPS. Respect him if you are JP. He's just some dad streamer if you are not JP.
>>7574310
Akukin reference, Peko rap even has the line of Hikakin and Seikin. Most anons on this board are ignorant of JP shit but this is /vt/ and not /jp/.
>>7574574
>one of the moat popular boybands
I just have to add one of the most popular Japanese boybands. JP still lags behind KR in boybands.
>>7574618
Stylishnoob isn't a normie e-celeb you ignorant shit. Neither is Ryosuke Yamada who is part of Hey Say Jump, which anons definitely won't know because 1. its a boyband and most of y'all are dudes and 2. he's kinda old.

>> No.7575057

>>7574008
>get to
>privilege
I'd rather kill myself than collab with e-celebs.

>> No.7575095

>>7574992
Amatsuki being in CR is so weird to me still.

>> No.7575219

>>7574324
Is there a picture of him IRL?

>> No.7575251

>>7575057
>e-celebs
The only e-celeb in the collab is Kuzuha, you ignorant monkey.
>>7575095
Well, he loves the game and he can sing and Ras loves him. Free singing for CR shit? Most people were expecting Niru.

>> No.7575288

>>7575219
About as reliable as any IRL picture of Suisei

>> No.7575357

>>7574008
I swear Kuzuha isn't a numberfa-

>> No.7575374

>>7575219
Not really, but keep in mind he was asked to be a model when he was 17 years old

>> No.7575382

>>7574022
Normieking, kek, very nice. Guess this is why there are so many twitter trannies in Nijisanji.

>> No.7575417

>>7575382
>normieking
Nah. Kuzuha is still only vtuber king, like how Pekora is still only vtuber queen. Vtuber fans be delusional.

>> No.7575428

>>7575219
There's a pic around of some ugly rando's face that people claim to be him, but that was just a joke apparently. The only actual credible pictures of him irl is a selfie with a mask on so you can only see his eyes, (which you can see doesn't match with the rando's) and a pic of him sitting on a box with the area above neck crossed-out. So basically almost nothing.

>> No.7575433

>>7575382
Normalfag in Jp are not same as normalfag in west.

>> No.7575444

>>7574008
>e-celebs + apexautism
no thank you

>> No.7575470

>>7575428
Is it against the rules to show your face? I guess it ruins the immersion

>> No.7575487

>>7575417
they should marry

>> No.7575488

You people always forgot that Nijisanji is actually the most well-known in JP.

>> No.7575510

>>7575488
yeah, holobronies are pretty much in coperino mode right now that their big colab is being mogged because of one celeb

>> No.7575519

>>7575470
No. Lulu already did that. I'm not sure about other.

>> No.7575520

>>7575470
Japan is very against showing their face online because of an incident that happened. Thats why you JPfags acting shocked at how brave westernfags are at showing themselves on viewer participation streams or shocked at how daring JP streamers show their face. Wearing a mask is also a trendy thing sometimes in JP even pre-COVID.

>> No.7575551

>>7575488
B-but muh big number in Youtube.

>> No.7575560

>>7574324
I hope he's attractive

>> No.7575574

>>7575470
Not really? These pics were old pics from him from his past life, so they're old (when he was still a minor). It depends on the fan if they want to go look at pics of vtubers irl and decide if it ruins their immersion or not.

>> No.7575587

>>7575510
I'm a holofag and called it in the numbers thread but I know most anons here, even those who claim they like other vtubers like Niji/VSPO/etc, are only here after HoloEN became a thing and are in general ignorant of JP shit, which is why this is /vt/ and not /jp/. There's so many times people have to remind others that APEX is huge in Japan.

>> No.7575626

>>7575574
This. Looking at their face is one thing, looking at what they do and stuff is a big thing. Like finding out some vtuber guy isn't actually an awkward, shy introvert guy IRL. You can still think about the vtuber as a shy guy but now you'll always know its an act and I'm sure we all know most streamers put on an act but we don't want to think about it.

>> No.7575630

>>7575487
The oni already put a charm on his dick

>> No.7575632

>>7574734
cope with smaller numbers

>> No.7575643

What's the point when he can't beat a shark doing an outfit reveal in the morning of Japan and not during primetime?

>> No.7575652

>>7574618
Seething, probably

>> No.7575684

>>7575643
Gura is loli, which is beloved by all, even non otaku. This is still a big thing, tho I mainly like it because it shows JP idols putting some effort into trying to get more known. KRs eating their food and they can't just let that continue. Do something.

>> No.7575693

>>7574008
Because nijisanji is more popular and mainstream in Japan, hololives numbers mostly come from EOP audience

>> No.7575694

I WILL NOT PLAY APEX.
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME.

>> No.7575720

Holobronies don’t realise that being inside a bubble is not necessarily a good thing.

>> No.7575724

>>7575652
>>7574992
>E-celebs
>Ryosuke Yamada is bigger than an e-celeb you ignorant fuck. I know anons on this board know nothing about idolshit but fuck, at least do some research. Idols are more than AKB.
Don't disrespect Stylishnoob (an old legend) or Ryosuke. The only e-celeb is the chuuba.

>> No.7575774

>>7575724
so would ryosuke yamada be japan's equivalent of Tom Cruise or something in terms of star power?

>> No.7575784

>>7575694
You and most anons. Thats why you all keep getting confused about APEX streams in Japan. Its huge in Japan. You don't have to care about the game, just learn Japanese and listen to the banter and talk. You're missing good content like Nirufina, DaruSaka and Yumekyawa/Hamsters.

>> No.7575803

>>7575784
OreApo is worth watching Apex

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>>7574008
Kuzuha is just a chad

a lazy, gaming chad

>> No.7575835

>>7575774
>japan's equivalent of Tom Cruise or something in terms of star power
Are you retarded? Is there anybody in Japan on Tom Cruise's level even? He's bigger than Kuzuha and Stylishnoob. Ryosuke is a JPOP idol but he's old but he's still bigger than those two because he's a real celeb. However he is a JPOP idol and KPOP>JPOP hard in popularity. He big but you aimed waaaaaaaaay too high with Tom Cruise.

>> No.7575837

>>7575803
Stop watching clip and do your rep

>> No.7575860

I swear this board only brings up Kuzuha to talk about numbers. You guys are missing out.

>> No.7575881

>>7575825
Oh no.. Dola is cheating on Yashiro again.

>> No.7575892

>>7575803
Based Kamito boosting Hinano to the top tiers of VSPO. Nazuna's news shit also doing good.

>> No.7575926

>>7575860
he's fun and Apex is fun, numbers or not

>> No.7575935

>>7575892
I want to read a doujin about Kamito dicking Hinano so hard she can't walk in the morning.

>> No.7575944

>>7575892
>Noah, Nazuna, Hinano and Nose are inclining hard.
Our has come VSPObro.

>> No.7575947

>>7575881
Motherfucker, Kuzuha is her son. Dola is cheating on Yashiro with Kosaka and Yashiro is cheating on Dola with Bully Panda, get your fanfiction straight.

>> No.7575962

>>7574008
Nijisanji is a bigger and more mainstream company than hololive in japan. Hololive is the scrappy underdog that does more with less resources. A niche appeal group that normally wipes the floor with nijisanji. Holofans have no reason to be so insecure.

>> No.7575963

>>7575860
The board is full of people who don't like APEX. As much as people act like they're Nijifags, they're actually Holofags. Most Holofags don't like/care for APEX, Towa and Matsuri numbers drop when they stream it. Ayamefags will watch Ayame no matter what. Aqua is the only one that gets good numbers for it but Twitch kids went after her. I doubt they would care about baseball (koshien), mahjong, conqueror's blade or valorant or rocket league or tarkov. Maybe if Kuzuha started playing Minecraft again...

>> No.7576032

>>7575944
I'm actually more of a Holofag but I do love me some VSPO. Wished their Minecraft yukata skins looked better. I also love Met and used to confuse her as a VSPO. If only some other FPS besides APEX could also blow up, then some of the girls won't feel like they HAVE to APEX.

>> No.7576038

>>7575860
He's talked about in the Spoonfeed thread and homolust thread. I would never make a Kuzuha thread outside of those because of this board.

>> No.7576150

>>7576032
Noah played Battlefield 5 and COD days ago.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mDovCnoh0UQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AQ_twRiF8R8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Guf4G9-cWA

>> No.7576250

>>7576150
I was mostly referring to the non-APEX mains. I want them to get as big numbers for the FPS they like the most and for that, the other FPS need to blow up too.

>> No.7576979

>>7575382
You know who the normie king really is?
Fucking gawr gura

>> No.7577486

>>7576979
but Gura is a girl

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>>7575962
>Hololive is the scrappy underdog that does more with less resources
holobronies is at the coping state huh?
where were you when holobronies claim holo is the biggest in japan and niji is dying one month ago?

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>>Hololive is the scrappy underdog that does more with less resources
>holobronies is at the coping state huh?
>where were you when holobronies claim holo is the biggest in japan and niji is dying one month ago?

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>>7577631
Ever since the mogging, holobronies wearing horse binders are finally seeing the full picture but it leads them to cope

>> No.7577834

>>7577631
>where were you when holobronies claim holo is the biggest in japan and niji is dying one month ago?
I've never seen this. Are you going to make up some more believable bullshit next or what?
Then again this is /vt/, full of stupid false rrat to entertain themselves.

>> No.7577837

YEAH SWING FROM THAT CHANDELIER BABY

>> No.7577937

>>7577834
Anon haven’t you seen the number threads or bait threads. Are you that fucking blind.

>> No.7577974

>>7577937
Not really. Do I have to? Cause I don't want to.
The generals is enough for me.

>> No.7578092

>>7577974
Then I’m telling you that it is in fact a thing and if you have the sanity to lurk number threads or bait threads, you’ll see a lot of doom posting.

It does infact exists due to the board’s massive hate boner for niji

>> No.7578124

>>7578092
>asking people to visit the retard general to see retarded shit
why

>> No.7578182

>>7578092
>if you go to bait threads, you'll see bait posts
Next you'll tell me water is wet

>> No.7578217

>>7578092
Nijisanji is protector and shield of small companies against Holobronies menace. We will accept this hate so no indies and small companies suffer the same. Fuck Vshoujo tho.

>> No.7578225

>>7575860
Sorry, every time I see him he's streaming Apex. The only exception to that was when he played classic Smash on Tokyo MX during new years. I'd rather watch Joe sing since the guy's voice is amazing, dunno why he's relatively not as popular.

>> No.7578226

>>7574008
The worst thing is nobody will bother looking up who Kuzuha is playing with and not realize he's playing with a JPOP guy.

>> No.7578254

>>7578225
Joe does not stream as much. Also he's more known for his singing and he doesn't stream singing really either.

>> No.7578256

>>7578217
Are we the inheritors of hajimes will? He walked so that the female/male collabs can run.....

>> No.7578263

>>7577631
Only a retard would say nijisanji was dying , I hope they aren't dying I love nijisanji even though my oshi is a hololive member. I am jealous of nijisanji's music industry connections and 3d. Wish cover was better so my oshi had more of s chance to shine. But yeah, call me a holobrony. Fucking console war faggots, i swear to god.

>> No.7578318

>>7578182
>>7578124
People actually believe in bait and bring back the narrative back into whatever hellhole they came from. Some retard actually believe Sasaki bullied Moruru out even though it was a joke because she act like a yankee.

>> No.7578352

>>7578318
again why do you care what retards believe

>> No.7578400

>>7578263
>>7578352
Because dipshit it’ll be believed as it was real and I see that shit on Twitter, Jew tube and redshit comments.

>> No.7578523

>>7578263
>I am jealous of nijisanji's music industry connections
Mostly because of Sony Music's supports. Just pray that Sony Music don't leave them hanging after they launched those 50 new vtuber project.

>> No.7578575

>>7578352
Because rrat posting was the real reason why Kizuna Ai declined. Gamebu changed the VA of their chuubas and for some reason everyone believes Kizuna Ai VA was also changed and her popularity take the massive hit. And things get worse when Upd8 introduced multiple AI even tho those Ais are only intended for chink audiences. Don't underestimate rrat posting.

>> No.7578617

>>7578400
So? If you know it isn't real then continue with your life.
Every chuuba has gossip/lies/rrats, stop obssessing over them. I learned this the hard way by delving into those hate/rank sites and seeing criticism and rrats I never heard of for a guy I'd been watching for half a year. I then realized there's a reason I never saw that shit in normal fan spaces and it's because it's made by retards.
Try not following people on Twitter who follow /vt/takes. And try to not let this site get to you especially if you're a Nijifag because some people are only ever brought here thanks to rrat shit. When was the last time a non event Sasaki stream was talked about here? Lol.

>> No.7578623

>>7578575
>Upd8 introduced multiple AI even tho those Ais are only intended for chink audiences
To be absolutely fair, this was a disastrous idea to begin with, it set a precedent of multiple Ais existing at which made constructing rrats trivial and disproving it nightmarish.

>> No.7578625

>>7578523
If anything, Nijisanji will be the one that provides tech and training to Sony vtubers. Nijisanji academy might be related to them.

>> No.7578737

>>7578575
>Multiple Ai was only intended for Chink audiences
A different Ai (the character which later became Aipii) got the Ai Games, while Love-chan was the one who mostly did song covers/sometimes uploaded videos instead of Ai. The Chink Ai had her own Chinese AI Channel.

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>>7578400
>seething about twittershit and youtube comments

Holy fuck dude, just turn off the computer screen. I mean like, Go outside and touch grass.

>> No.7579415

>>7574033
this
>>7574596
if you call that "dick craving" youre retarded

>> No.7579626

>>7578523
>Mostly because of Sony Music's supports
Dude 11 out of 12 of their vtubers that are signed with major labels directly competing with Sony Music.

>> No.7579657

>>7578217
>>7578256
We are silent guardians, a watchful protectors. the dark knights

>> No.7581217

>>7574008
China likes Nijisanji. China owns the east. Nijisanji gets big collabs because China says so.

>> No.7583129

>>7579415
kek
Your lesbians would open their legs for that big number cock in a heartbeat if they could.

>> No.7583196

>>7578575
>AI even tho those Ais are only intended for chink audiences
funny that chinks absolutely loath Ai Chang because she's owned by a chink company which is hated there.
They tried to fix something that didn't need fixing...

>> No.7585856

>>7574008
Male (under)privilege. He can't rely on gosling welfare supas, which frees him up to thrive or fail on his own merits because nobody cares about men.

Meanwhile, chubas start off in a gilded cage that guarantees them gosling supas even if they're awful people who'd be lynched in a back alley were their genders reversed. Collabing with men shatters the cage, but then they're in A MAN'S WORLD where nothing is guaranteed, everyone subtly condemns you for merely existing, and the only way to succeed is by outcompeting your rivals.

It's because kuzuha was forged in the tires of meritocracy that he can reign supreme as the edgy autistic prince of male chubas.

>> No.7585943

>>7574008
Kuzuha is the E-celeb in this collab

>> No.7586203

>>7585856
Holo actually has several members who can compete with guys in terms of merits.
The male collab ban is to protect the weaker holos.

>> No.7586409

>>7574992
The absolute double standard. Lame e-celebs are ok if they are japanese!!

>> No.7586473

>>7585856
>He can't rely on gosling welfare supas
Holochama... he's the #1 superchatted vtuber in Nijisanji....

>> No.7586579

>>7577631
Just wait until summer break is over and we go back to Hololive crushing Niji daily. Enjoy this shit while it lasts Nijiniggers because it won't last.

>> No.7587645

>>7574163
low entry level to get in the game. Shoot shit and hopefully you win

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>>7574185
Bigger than everyone but Pekora? There is at least a handful bigger than that e-celeb luring poser

As as male vtubers go, I guess?

>> No.7589059

>>7577631
> Diluting more shares for the Zhangs
Zhangisanji can't stop sucking the yellow bugs.

>> No.7589363

>>7574140
male e-celebs are based as fuck though, Holo girls should be able to collab with them. it's only male vtubers that are disgusting and probably just trying to fuck my oshi

>> No.7589397

>>7574326
he snatched the position of most watched by hours from her for this past July

>> No.7589541

>>7574008
>What privilege does he have to be in this position when Hololive is way bigger and more influential than Nijisanji?
Holotards are a special breed of stupid.
Anycolor is backed by sony money, Cover's gigantic growth happened almost exclusively in 2020, they're still very much growing and only recently are they expanding into other shit.

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