Covers Q4 report thread

[Anonymous No.]

https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/6f83629b/c529/4e98/bcd5/a72ee44bcd82/20240513134452391s.pdf
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/6f83629b/c529/4e98/bcd5/a72ee44bcd82/20240513134452391s.pdf
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/6f83629b/c529/4e98/bcd5/a72ee44bcd82/20240513134452391s.pdf

[Anonymous No.]

>>75714475
Dont care
I wanna see niji's Q4

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>>75715468
Why's that, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75715498
Because it's going to be what we call the nijisanji cliff

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>>75715468
admittedly this only because i know 100% its going to be a shitshow

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>>75714475
their merch would go up even more if they would SHIP IT TO FUCKING EUROPE

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>>75715498
Holos financial report is boring while people had a blast with niji's previous financial report, simple as

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>>75716053
Hey, it's on the list! It's coming!
>>75715468
I care, but I want to see Niji burn at this point more than I want to see cover succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75716106
Kek
well it's boring when cover just keeps winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>75716343
>Its boring when cover gets serious
Same energy as picrel

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>>75716151
>Southeast Asia
Finally

[Anonymous No.]

>>75716491
KEK
>*yawn It’s boring when niji gets serious
How are sisters this retarded

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>>75716053
they do ship merch to europe in some capacity, they never blacklisted europe or anything. as for the stupid regulations in EU when it comes to shipping stuff, that's an EU skill issue I guess.

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>>75716493
>Finally
They started an ID branch before an English branch

[Anonymous No.]

Cool, but when is their stock going to recover

[Anonymous No.]

>>75714475
Is this all from biboo?

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>>75716151
Europe is the only one of these regions they've never tried to do anything with and there's still no sign of them trying to do anything. I'm really curious what their strategy is, do they expect to show up 5 years late and find people still eager to watch hololive debuts?

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>>75717261
someone post the after market trade image, tmr is gonna be quite interesting

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>>75717261
With how their stock has been dropping you'd think they'd want to reassure investors by showing them the international growth, but actual HoloEN numbers must be really bad if they're still this afraid of disclosing their revenue.

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>>75717366

[Anonymous No.]

https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/ce056940/9191/4262/ba1d/ea67a6394f16/20240513134703173s.pdf

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717456
forgot image

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717456
OH NONONONONO
SISTERS WHAT DO WE DO? HOLOLIVE'S GOING GLOBAL

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717524
WTF I can buy cover stocks now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717436
BUY BUY BUY

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717542
Yes. Cover stock will gonna be list in NY Stock Exchange soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717436
I was just thinking last week that maybe I should buy some more because surely it can't keep dropping forever, a bit late now I guess

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>>75717261
Probably when the rest of the Japanese stock market does.

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>>75717351
there has been Kiwawa pissing against wind for how many years now?

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>>75717588
real shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717847
Nikkei isn't doing too bad, it's up in the last 6 months while cover is down almost 40%

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>>75717918
Network effects are the whole reason a group like hololive manages to be popular, Cover even say that themselves. One person can't do shit, especially when her streams are spread all over the place so they have no primetime content 5 days a week

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>>75717588
Oh no no no no Nijikeks your response??

[Anonymous No.]

>Cover paid their talents 1,488,000,000 yen, or $9,288,630.40 for the quarter.
>Divided by 85* members = an average of $109,278 each.
>On average Holopro talents are being paid $36,426 a month
Jesus Christ, these girls are loaded.

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>>75717428
More like they pumped and dumped the shareholders kekw

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>>75718707
Now take off 40% for the top 20 girls and you know how rich the top holos are.

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>>75718707
why do you think they chill and not streaming much,going to fuckng maldives and not graduating like niji? because lifes good in holo.

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>>75718707
that's quite alot damn

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>>75714475
>Treats the business well
>Tells investards to fuck off
>Branches don’t constantly die and need resuscutation
>Worse yab is 2 dogs being too popular in JP

>Surpass predicitions and it’s positive in all sectors without accellerating or lifesavers from the stock market
It’s not even fair anymore, Holo is too fucking powerful.

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>>75718880
anon, the top 20 girls are a quarter of the branch.
Compare to Nijisanji who also has 40% in the top 20... but they have 159 streamers (now 158) instead of 85.

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>>75718707
fuck man why do I work 80 hours a week to earn the same amount

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>>75719077
You're not a cute girl

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>>75718707
This is why girls like Kanata and Marine can pour money into stuff like fully animated MVs and the others can still put out cover videos at a decent pace. They make enough to live off even before SCs are factored into the equation.

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>>75717632
This is just PTS (price traded outside market)
If you fast enough, you might still able to caught some 1.6k yen stock then it will instant jumped to at least 1.9k yen stock.
But it's gonna be hard though because many ppl also want to ride the tide too.

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>>75717588
>Currently both anycolor and cover have same individual investors, so the stock movement look very similar.
Will it change?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719077
You make $36k a month?

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>>75718707
The big earners definitely get more and the less popular get less. Despite no streaming I wouldn’t be surprised if guts was number one based off her branding alone, next pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719324
I'm planning to reduce it honestly I don't think it's worth it for my health anymore

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>>75718707
Didn't Yagoo say somethin like some of his talents are now richer than him and is more than ok with it.
Unlike a certain yacht buyer, mclaren rider, anycolor dictator that sabotages their talents if they get too ambitious with tournaments and MVs

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>>75718707
This is why superchats don't matter in the long run unless you get $100k each month. After the cuts for youtube and Cover, it'd would probably be around this much or slightly higher based on what formula you use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719472
80 hour weeks sound horrible. You probably should once you're satisfied with your savings, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719532
all about the merch baby. looking at anycolor's financial reports it seems that's also the bulk of the revenue

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719125
How do I re-roll anon?

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>>75717351
Everyone thought ID was a lost cause until it suddenly wasn't. Cover knows they are gambling and they want to win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719901
ID took years of buildup starting before EN existed, if an expansion into Europe followed the same trajectory you wouldn't expect it to do well until 2030 at this point. It's just weird that they've left it so long when it's a huge market for both streaming (more twitch viewers than NA) and manga/anime (more revenue than NA)

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>>75719077
I mean, billionaires make more money than you ever will during a single night's sleep. Holos look like big fish in a pond, but they're nothing to the ocean.

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>>75719671
Anime and manga suggests walking out in front of a moving truck but I wouldn't recommend it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75720301
And asteroids are way bigger than my backyard, but that’s not exactly relevant here.

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>>75716151
They always put an expansion into Europe as some vague goal, but they really dropped the ball. Don't even need a branch, just a gen that largely streams at European prime time and has merch with cheap shipping costs in Europe would have done a lot considering how many Europeans on Twitch etc. are willing to watch streams in English.

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>>75720428
I just don't get why this would make you seethe in particular. Holos are industry leaders with simp armies, of course they'll make good money.

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>>75720449
It's not even really about the costs of shipping, that's not really something I have to worry about - it's the fact I literally can't order merch from the official store to ship to my country. So I have to order from GeekJack instead and hope I don't miss out on limited edition stuff (which I quite often do).

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>>75718707
The one thing you anons need to realize is that, this basically means the Top Talents are the ones paying the wages of the Low Performers.

Suisei Concert
Pekora Concert
Top holos always sold-out merch
Guras Gurarium, Gura's $2M taiwan collab
etc

so respect the top talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>75720765
I’m not going to respect Gura until she opens about about why she won’t stream. That’s literally it, I’m not even asking her to stream.

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>>75718707
That's with 23 homo and 9 ID cratering the stats, the EN/JP average must be insane.

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>>75716343
Actually true, but that can't be helped when the competition insists on immolating itself.

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>>75718707
top20 talents are like 44% of revenue. For them average is $68k a month.
The few of top talents are earning more than $100k a month.

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>>75720809
uhm, she already explained it clearly anon. she got burned-out. she's sorry, but also didn't say about going back consistently. so there's that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75721275
Burn out isn’t a real answer, at least not entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75716151
Huh they really did their research, hopefully they also know about buying power

[Anonymous No.]

>>75716053
use Tenso
there are some extra cost but its worth it for my oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>75717436
Nice finally the line went up, they just need to keep it up maybe even reduce cuts from the talents so revenue increases

[Anonymous No.]

>>75722289
Oh Hi Riku, didn't know your English was this good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75719442
The top also does not (cannot) stream much, so the bottom probably earn more from SC. Kaela's insane hours probably racks up tons of adsense.

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>>75718707
Then why do I keep hearing how Marine goes broke doing MVs, Okayu taking a "loan" from Cover to fund hers and Mumei doing drawing commission? While they make lot of money, they also pay for lots of stuff too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75722669
Because you only hear one third of the equation

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>>75714475
>everything is 20%+
holy shit they won't stop

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>>75715498
Cover's report is boring because everyone knows they're going to kill it.
Niji's report is exciting because nobody knows if they're going to get killed.

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>>75717351
I think they are weary of Europe.
Not sure why even though there are a lot of superchats from Europe mainly Germany and France and that one guy from Sweden maybe.

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>>75715468
This, we all knew Covers was doing well, it's too predictable. What's the fun in that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75722669
They're probably saying "they're broke" == "not income for a few months."
They should have savings by now.

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>>75722669
Retarded catalog drone who can't even watch the clips.
Marien never said she goes broke. She said MVs don't make money for her but it doesn't matter because she is fucking rich and can afford losing money on MVs, she still has plenty and she makes MVs asa gift for fans.

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>>75722880
EU (and even some non-EU countries like the UK, Switzerland, Norway etc) have very strong consumer protections and heavy regulations about what info companies can keep on customers. I think that's probably the issue - they'd have to hire a team dedicated to these regulations because the EU will issue them massive fines if they make a mistake.

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>>75719493
IIRC he draws a salary of around 30m yen annually as CEO. Could be higher now though.

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>>75723381
You mean GDPR? Doesnt Japan have something similiar already? APPI?

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>>75720809
Because, she doesn't enjoy streaming, she prefers working on her farm.

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>>75722669
You’re both listening to retards who don’t know what they’re talking about, and underestimating how expensive MVs can be while generally being a net loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75714475
Licensing is finally coming into its own and will pass streaming in the next 2 years. Hololive is already not a streaming company anymore. They're something completely different to any other vtubers.

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>>75723620
Yeah but it's not the same and there are local laws too. It's tough to study all that and the bigger you are, the more careful you have to be.

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>>75721559
And why exactly is burnout not a “real” answer to the question doctor?

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>>75720765
>Gura is one of the reasons the lights are kept on
If the big ol statue in the main office didn't say enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75724762
>shonen jump is bigger than harry potter
bretty cool

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>>75718707
Performer remuneration is extremely vague and could include other employee salaries as well.

>>75722669
Hololive drawing commissions is partly why I take the optimistic guesses with a grain of salt because doing that wouldn't make any sense if they were earning millions of dollars each year.

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>>75724762
Hello Kitty is a real powerhouse

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>>75723381
This. People treats Europe (or European Union) as if it's a country, but in fact it's a mere continent after all. You have to deal with EU law (with varying "transposition" of the "directives" across the union), French law, Polish law, etc by setting up a branch in Europe.

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>>75722669
Because it's a fucking metaphor for how much it costs to get a full anime MV made.

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>>75716053
Your rope?

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>>75717436
/biz/ here. Bought last week at 1690 JPY, easiest fucking money of my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>75725840
Who says we need a new branch? EN is just fine, just get talents to stream at EU times. They can live in Japan for all I care, like 1/3 of EN already do.

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>>75723620
GDPR is generally alot harsher than other similar laws on the books elsewhere, and more importantly it actually has teeth because the EU actually hands out significant fines for breaches, unlike most other countries where they don't really give a shit unless you start selling patient info for money

[Anonymous No.]

>>75720363
I'm a dr and a dentist, would recommend

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>>75726443
There’s Kiara and Shiori on the weekends. I honestly hope this changes, and Shiori and sometimes Nerissa does show that more hires can improve it, but half the complaints on that front when this comes up are less “HoloEN doesn’t stream at EU-friendly times” and more “I’d rather complain about the ones who don’t than watch the ones who do.”

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>>75725597
What other employees are also performers? Dancers, choreographers, and musicians would all be considered outside contractors.

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>>75719671
You can just join the trannies

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>>75727221
>“I’d rather complain about the ones who don’t than watch the ones who do.”
EU-friendly streams from Shiori are extremely rare and just because there's one girl in the branch who streams at EU-friendly times doesn't mean it's the one all of us want to watch

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>>75726722
I still fail to see what GDPR itself has anything to do with having talents stream at EU times. You can already make an account and buy voice packs from the main site, so they should be compliant with it. If they hire someone from europe, Cover probably has to follow the local work laws more closely rather than GDPR.

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>>75723455
That's around the equivalent of $200k USD. I can definitely believe that the top 20 of Hololive easily clears this number.
Even if his salary doubled since then, the top 20 still clears it easy. How will he ever afford a yacht like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75727846
>be not cute, not girl
>troon out
>still not cute, not girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>75727914
“On the weekends” is fairly regular, her current travel circumstances excepted.

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>>75714475
So to me, a layman, it sounds like the strategy is to have a consistent and frequent streaming schedule for the first year or two, to establish a marketable brand name, then, if you wish, can take a more loose scheduling while your IP does most of the heavy lifting.

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>>75727087
>Not a cat ss well
Not enough credibility for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>75729683
always has been

[Anonymous No.]

>>75729683
The biggest problem is that talents are not like Mickey Mouse and will want to move on at some point. When that happens, the model will be retired and can't be used anymore. I can't imagine how stressful being in Hololive can be since you have to pretty much hide everything.

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>>75726443
A late night british streamer would be great, I think the brit I watch starts streaming like FST-2, would become Faunas personal raider

[Anonymous No.]

>>75731089
FST-4 would be better

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>>75716053
Use geekjack

[Anonymous No.]

>>75731446
geekjack is horrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>75731446
This. I don't know what people complain about not shipping to Europe (unless you live in a country that even geekjack wont deliver). Sure it's slower but I never had a problem with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75731089
> an Essex girl chuuba.
>a chav chuuba
I'm mildly intrigued with the shitshow potential

[Anonymous No.]

>>75731827
No seen either of those personally - most British chuubas I've seen seem fairly normal rather than walking stereotypes. Possibly because a lot of them are Asian.