Matara: A Snake in the Grass

[Anonymous No.]

>be Vshojo orbiter
>be friends with Kuro and Matara
>get instant signal boosting from numerous indies that are friends of friends, a friend group and support system out of the gate, and immediate connections
>you get a family

>be Dokibird
>get spat on by everyone you used to work for and alongside
>every single connection she's using to her advantage now is traceable back to foundations she laid as Selen for herself.
>succeed, but are alone

Idc what anyone says. Matara saying "Quinn triggered my maternal instincts and savior complex to help people" and then not doing a single thing in public support of Dokibird reeks of opportunistic grifting and I despise it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
Don't forget her current episode of exploiting Mint because Quinn gigaflopped

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>>75241048

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>>75240832
Holoseethe
Mint will never join Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

I will NOT have a mental breakdown, I took my meds today

[Anonymous No.]

What's going on with Nijisanji this time

[Anonymous No.]

another sister thread seething about the cock woman... SAD!

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
You have a mental illness and should explain this delusion to your doctor

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>>75241384
Who gives a flying fuck, Mint is much better off staying indie, but Matara is glazing her up like no tomorrow, it's plain to see. God even knows for what reason. I HOPE it's just to get her to join Vshoujo. Because it could be something worse.

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>>75241688
Mint reached 200k subs and this is apparently a huge issue for their cult.

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>>75240832
Quinn is a cute boy. Doki is a fat landwhale. Simple as.

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>>75241836
>but Matara is glazing her up like no tomorrow
GIWTWM
also mint deserves all the glazing she gets, she wouldn't even be streaming or doing fucking anything right now if it wasn't for the glaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
Matara and Doki were never friends. Go watch Selen on Nina's graduation totsu, they outright say they haven't interacted in forever and the whole conversation is awkward and cringe-inducing.
She is friends with Mint, Quinn, Michi, etc., the people she's collabing with. She's not under some obligation to "support" every ex-Niji even if they were never friends, especially given that Doki is doing perfectly fine on her own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75241964
>also mint deserves all the glazing she gets
Matara goes too hard on it and it's very hard to not see it as manipulation. Especially considering their non-existent chemistry on their podcast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>Matara saying "Quinn triggered my maternal instincts and savior complex to help people" and then not doing a single thing in public support of Dokibird reeks of opportunistic grifting and I despise it.
If she wanted to do "opportunistic grifting", wouldn't she do it the other way around? Support Doki because of her hueg numbers she could leech from despite hardly talking to her while in Niji, while ignoring Quinn and his minuscule numbers despite the two of them getting along while in Niji.

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>>75241836
>I HOPE it's just to get her to join Vshoujo
Yeah, that's the reasonable assumption to make.
>Because it could be something worse.
Such as?? What other thing could she possibly want from by "glazing her up?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>75242120
They were supposed to come together to sink the yacht, but it seems camaraderie means nothing in this business, despite what they say about cliques being evil, they withdraw into their own cliques anyway. This is why Riku said that the consequences were negligible. In the end, nothing changes, just that the people that Elira wanted gone are gone.

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>>75242127
It's necessary to make up for Mint's extreme self-loathing.

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>>75242127
anon not everything is manipulation, even in niji mata and mint were best friends and they even talked about this on the podcast where mint says that matara is an extrovert in a hobby of introverts and matara laughs it off. the non-existent chemistry part is just you, they work well as opposites

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>>75241964
from an outsider perspective, shes looking like one of those /wasp/ 1view groomers with how hard she's been glazing mint. considering how hard she shilled kyo (someone she hardly knew), only to drop him when he flopped hard, this whole thing is looking like a grift of some sort. she did get mint to start streaming again, so that counts for something at least
>GIWTWM
same

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>>75242450
Being an extrovert is kind of a cheat code to life in general but that does double for something like vtubing. The reason Matara has so many friends and so much influence really just comes down to her being able to reach out to/make connections with people.

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>>75240832
You are labouring under the audacious assumption that Doki even wants her help.

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>>75242235
To this day Matara hasn't cut off ties with Enna, Millie and Reimu. And considering how they openly taunted Doki for her suicide attempts on Twitter, you would think that Matara would be disillusioned with them completely and seen for herself that they haven't changed one but from the days when they forcibly excluded her, but no. They've still been seen hanging out. Even post-Selen debacle.
On her PL account Mint has thrown hints that she's been avoiding Matara for some reason despite later doing this podcast thing with her. Odd, isn't it? She was actually avoiding the Ethyria cunts.

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>>75242652
holy schizo, like mint didn't talk about inviting mata over to her house in the summer on their podcast

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>>75242652
>On her PL account Mint has thrown hints that she's been avoiding Matara for some reason despite later doing this podcast thing with her.
lol nigga her and mata chatted all the time on that account and even hung out in japan while she wasn't streaming

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>>75242724
>>75242827
Fucking idiots, Mint is okay with Matara herself, it's obvious, but she conveniently had "headaches" on the days when Matara went to karaoke with Enna and Reimu

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>>75242652
What the fuck are you even insinuating
You can't possibly be suggesting that Matara is being close with Mint to... tear her down and make her kill herself?

Like what in the fuck is this post

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>>75240832
>that time she got her tits out on stream

Her areolae were barely visible lol, the were almost white!

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>>75242305
>They were supposed to come together to sink the yacht
The world doesn’t revolve around Doki. There are people on that yacht, like Rosemi and Doppio, who are depending on it for their livelihood. Everyone has seen what has become of Quinn, so claiming that they can just leave and find the same level of success elsewhere is nonsense. Unless you get a victim backstory drama boost like Doki, or you’re a more popular female streamer like Mint, then you’re screwed.

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>>75242305
>They were supposed to come together to sink the yacht
The world doesn’t revolve around Doki. There are people on that yacht, like Rosemi and Doppio, who are depending on it for their livelihood. Everyone has seen what has become of Quinn, so claiming that they can just leave and find the same level of success elsewhere is nonsense. Unless you have a victim backstory drama boost like Doki, or you’re a more popular female streamer like Mint, you’re screwed.

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>>75242305
>They were supposed to come together to sink the yacht
Doki wants nothing to do with that. You'd know if you watched her streams.

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>>75243066
>tear her down and make her kill herself?
You fucking said it, not me, you got no room to call me a schizo. All i'm saying is Matara could be trying to convince Mint that Enna, Millie and Reimu are still good people when they absolutely are NOT.

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>>75243830
>could be
Load-bearing weasel word here. She COULD be trying to convince Mint to marry me, too bad there's zero evidence.

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>>75243975
No. Until Matara shows clear signs of distancing herself from the cunts who openly taunted a suicide victim on Twitter, I won't trust her.

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>>75241688
Millie announced she has a boyfriend.

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>>75243830
>You fucking said it, not me
You're clearly implying it

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>>75244452
No i'm not, take your meds. Mint's opinion carries weight. Of course the clique would want her on their side.

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>>75240832
>reeks of opportunistic grifting
That part makes no sense. If Matara was a grifter, she would do everything in her power to ingratiate herself to Doki.

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>>75244572
Mint was always on Matara's side. Nothing has changed here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
Chink sisters seething that we'd rather watch a Canadian ruskie

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>>75242893
Dude, you are fucking sheep.
And worse of all, you are a sheep of /vt/. Like
>but she conveniently had "headaches" on the days when Matara went to karaoke with Enna and Reimu
You mean a fucking karaoke in February when both Enna and Reimu weren't in Japan? But everyone is so fucking retarded to fat check anything, EVEN the fact that the stream most people were posting of this (Matara's one) was exactly on the same day Reimu and Enna were going to Japan, and Matara was already in her conform of her home back in fucking Canada. Like, are you that mentally retarded?
>Matara's karaoke (which only had VShojo staff, Kuro, Michi, Shoto, Hime, and Gigguk)
https://twitter.com/MataraKan/status/1758884648157937861
https://twitter.com/MataraKan/status/1758924800464953532

>Day both Enna and Reimu went to Japan and Matara is literally back in home after Thailand and Japan
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1764672472698233015
https://twitter.com/MataraKan/status/1765126849133154805

[Anonymous No.]

>>75244693
Not necessarily, you could be playing the safer grift. Being a more neutral party might see less explosive growth, but she already has the vshojo boost, so why bother hitting the hornets nest?

With that said, I don't think it has anything to do with grifting, I think it has everything to do with Mata not wanting to publicly stir shit as it'd be bad for her image.

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>>75244729
Mint may be friends with Matara, but that doesn't mean she wasn't disgusted at the blatant harassment Elira, Enna, Millie and Reimu displayed throughout the whole debacle. No way she took the clique's side, no way she supports and endorses what they did to Doki, i'm sorry, but that's just bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>>be Vshojo orbiter
>>be friends with Kuro and Matara
>>get instant signal boosting from numerous indies that are friends of friends
That worked wonders for Kyo didnt it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75244970
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>be
>be
>get
>are
Meds.
>>75241048
>exploiting Mint
More meds.

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>>75240832
It could be simply that considering how severe the Doki situation was she doesn't want to get in trouble for "slander" and involve her entire company in a legal battle with niji.

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>>75240832
Damn, sisters really suffering from iketog going down

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>>75244970
OK? I never suggested any of that.
That's all in your own schizo brain.

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>>75240832
Matara has no obligation to help anyone. She isn't being mean to anyone either, are you just mad that she's not helping everyone?

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>>75242120
>friends with Quinn
Matara admitted they barely even talked while in Niji. Why her "maternal instincts" triggered only after he left can't really be explained besides the potential for a grift, which clearly wasn't realized so she moved on to her next leech target Mint. >>75242305
Matara clearly wants her own clique
>>75245498
It's the double standards
>Mint/Quinn
>MUH MATERNAL INSTINCTS
>Doki/Sayu (note: actual victims)
>drakeno.jpg

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>>75240832
Fagoons seething about Nina/Matara will never not be funny. I still remember the seethe when Pomu was on Ironmouse's Speak of the Devil and when asked about who she's the closest with in nijien, she said Elira Finana and Nina. The absolute meltdown about her not mentioning Selen that fagoons had was amazing to witness.

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>>75246104
Also Mint and Quinn are also people that Matara can probably get under her control. Doki is too much of a lone wolf for that and Sayu is too strong-willed (not to mention the whole drama between the two)

[Anonymous No.]

I'm thoroughly enjoying the Mint/Matara summer podcast (in spring). Super cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75246137
>nijifags are now using Mint to falseflag
Is nothing sacred anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters... I need a break from all this seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75242305
>They were supposed to come together to sink the yacht
According to who? The reality is that NOONE likes doki, and anyone who collabs with her does it only to get a boost in their numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75246313
>now
Bruh.
Also it's funny. They don't seem to realize that (seemingly) remaining friends with Elira does not equal still being loyal to the Nijisanji brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>supporting a literal who
>reeks of opportunistic grifting
I don't think you know what that means, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>>75241048
>>75241952
You want the real reason why it's matara, quinn and mint? Because all 3 are tiny hats, that's all there's to it. If you don't have the correct ethnicity however, you can get fucked, you'll be railroaded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
Everyone that was ever in Nijisanji is just varying degrees of garbage, no exceptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75241688
Wait something happened since Millie used GPT to pretend she cares about her fans yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75241864
I don't think they care.

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>>75240832
vshojo are grifter vultures, more news at 11

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>>75242652
Schizobro, in one of her latest tweets Mint posted a video where you can clearly hear Elira. I'm sorry to tell you, but she's not going to erase any of her friends - neither Doki, nor those in Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>Idc what anyone says. Matara saying "Quinn triggered my maternal instincts and savior complex to help people" and then not doing a single thing in public support of Dokibird reeks of opportunistic grifting and I despise it.
anyone with a functional brain can see it miles away anon, matara is part of the clique with quinn, thats why she memoryholed sayu and doki act like they didnt exist,which end up with mint also act like doki didnt exist.
they have no issue to just collab because vshojo isnt jp corpo,like phase can collab with both doki and sayu,but why not matara,the answer is really that simple.

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>>75251219
Listen, i'm willing to give Elira the benefit of the doubt. I sincerely doubt that she actually volunteered to spearhead the black stream. I'm even willing to give MillLe the benefit of the doubt - out of pity, because she went too hard on drinking the kool-aid. But Enna and Reimu? No. Those bitches can get bent.

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>>75251219
>clearly hear Elira
>neither doki
what next you gonna say israel and hamas kissing and tongue each other? if shes with elira,then doki is a no go.

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>>75251453
It's not so cut and dry. Doki did not explicitly blame anyone for the bullshit she endured.

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>>75251453
Uhhh anon most Israelis killed last October were killed by the IDF when they enacted the Hannibal Directive which states that killing your own people is better than them being used as hostages against you. This isn't even news or shocking inside Israel and is a huge scandal with the families of the victims attempting to sue the government over it. It's only the west that still thinks the Israeli government and IDF are innocent and would never hurt a fly.

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>>75242232
doki already has a mother and that didn't help her much, what she needs/needed was psychological help because I assure you that half of those who are her “friends” are not going to be there in the bad times.

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>>75240832
She's joining VShojo. The sooner you accept this the better

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Matara is a whore that fucked Luca
https://vocaroo.com/1ovM52NcAP9J
No idea why you people are defending her.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe, just maybe, Doki was hard to get along with as a coworker instead of everyone else being an evil snake bitch?

[Anonymous No.]

I will never understand why nijisisters hate matara so much

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>>75242127
>>Non-existent chemistry

The meds. Take them.

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>>75244828
Not helping someone who was bullied to the point of attempting suicide twice from the same company that abused you IS bad for her image.

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>>75252152
She wasn't part of the clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>still seething about doki

[Anonymous No.]

>>75252152
>Kuro follows Doki on two accounts and unfollows the day after

That's how
it was probably comms with Vox though
Doki's hemorrhaging followers who are actual prominent vtubers though and I don't know why. Spider mom did too. It fucking sucks having this industry be so opaque and so drama-hungry at the same time.

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>>75252373
She literally became part of "the clique", she still goes out with Millie and Enna. She's the most beloved among all of them. Enna asked for Nina's hat as a BG accessory in her 3D debut.

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>>75252129
That would require people think about situations like this with any kind of nuance beyond "Either you're on niji's side or doki's side"

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>>75252373
But this thread tells me that she always was???

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>>75240832
>Be an adult
>Network and build relationships
>Use those relationships to your advantage
vs
>Be a crazy bitch
>Violate corporate rules and get fired
>Attempt to kill yourself
>Betray all your friends and burn bridges
>Be alone
So...nothing wrong here, right? This is literally how life is.

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>>75252518
It's funny seeing so many people who don't even watch Doki with no actual knowledge of the situation go to bat for her so hard

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>>75252129
Pretty much the conclusion I've come to over time. I watched Nina and I still watch Matara and I don't think she's the kind of person to completely ignore someone that she worked with in this capacity for so long even if they weren't super close if there wasn't a reason. I highly doubt there was any bad blood between them before they left, but something about the way Doki left likely rubbed her the wrong way. Michi only debuted a couple of weeks ago and she's already on her Niji reunion tour and collabed with Quinn just last night and has been pressuring Mint to join VShojocraft so they can play together there.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay sister

[Anonymous No.]

>Matara is not part of the clique

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>>75252129
what about U-san then? he is clearly not in bad terms with Doki and it doesn't seems like he was really close to Doki, they only did an off-collab and that seems to be enough for him to still collab with her and even do a duet cover song together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75252686
Same anon, who knew the fps obsessed vtuber might have been toxic and a jerk to work with. Also goons are annoying fags fuck you niggers for never shutting the fuck up and spamming all over VT

[Anonymous No.]

>>75253240
They had pretty limited contact

[Anonymous No.]

Duhhh I’m a fagoon, my squint eye scizo is in the right! Everyone and I mean everyone else are evil snakes and back stabbers! Look at my scizo post and green text

[Anonymous No.]

>>75252129
I always had my theory that her mental problems make her see that she has enemies everywhere but one thing does not take away the other probably niji was to blame for many things that we do not know and that led her condition to get worse but I am sure that the problem was always there and exploded.

[Anonymous No.]

Grown ass men discussing high school drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
>Idc what anyone says. Matara saying "Quinn triggered my maternal instincts and savior complex to help people" and then not doing a single thing in public support of Dokibird reeks of opportunistic grifting and I despise it.
Well, Doki really didn't need her support.
Sayu on the other hand somehow didn't trigger her maternal instincts, though, and allegedly just a single slip of something she herself has claimed before and since was enough for her to completely excommunicate her. That one event, combined with how both sayu and matara are the kind of people who would normally iron this out in private, yet they haven't, really soured me on her and makes me extremely critical of any "motherly instincts" she has since it seems far more like she wants to use people rather than to help them.

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>>75252454
Doki's hemorrhaging followers who are actual prominent vtubers though and I don't know why. Spider mom did too.
Such as whom?

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>>75253795
sayu used words Nina told her in confidence for drama baiting, that's why

Matara is an extreme extrovert, she basically has superhuman abilities and can make tons of friends like it's nothing. She doesn't need to hang on to people she can't trust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75253795
Because Sayu has no grift potential for Matara, simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>75253685
Welcome to /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75252129
>Doki was hard to work with
Yeah thats why everyone not in Niji that has worked with her over the years talked about how she has been a joy to work with,thats why she is beem getting along with notYugo,notChihiro and notGhundo,you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>75252533
Go back to your nyfco

[Anonymous No.]

>>75253332
>limited contact
>they collabed together
>U-san has sent an akasupa to Doki
>they literally plan to release a cover together
Fag

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>>75255279
There's a difference between working on a project together and having her as a coworker.
>>75255426
Yugo didn't even last a year in the company and all of the bad shit with Selen happened after they left.

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>>75253529
Other way. She blames herself for everything. She never stopped promoting unity up until she was fired. The only reason she tried to kill herself was because she thought she was better off dead than alive since she was such a burden to them.

I don't even know if she herself understands that she was bullied, hence the journal casually having such damning shit that the lawyer recommended they send it directly to strengthen their case, and Niji freaked the fuck out when they saw it.

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>>75253529
Pretty much. i've had some friends with BPD (I'm still unclear on if Doki even has it since I've heard conflicting things but this is an example) and some of the shit they can come up with for people who care about them is nuts. I can't imagine that + being in a situation where the people that should care, don't. Mika talked a bit about this before she graduated too. She wasn't the strongest singer in Niji, so they basically just told her they weren't interested in promoting her as a singer. Because to management if you weren't at least as good as Enna, there was no reason to even bother. And she's talked more about this since debuting in VShojo and how they helped give her more confidence to try music again.

To be clear I'm not blaming Enna for this. She's a good singer and that's not her fault, but blaming management for ignoring everyone else who isn't extraordinary as a thing is bad for everyone else's mental, and Selen had to have been 100% included in stuff like that.

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>>75257925
The problem with this is that outside of "it's not my team's fault I lost" or some other stream-based jokes, I don't think I've ever actually seen her blame anybody... for anything. It's always been framed as her issues for feeling that way, rather than the other side for being "the enemy."

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>>75255868
>Yugo didn't even last a year in the company and all of the bad shit with Selen happened after they left.
Okay and?Watch streams these two are still close friends

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>>75255279
>Yeah thats why everyone not in Niji that has worked with her over the years talked about how she has been a joy to work with
Considering how much money she spends on commissioning those people ($200k/year), yeah I can see why they are happy to work with her

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>>75240832
Should've been a snake vtuber instead of a roach desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>75240832
everyone knew she was a disgusting whore even before she was in niji

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>>75252454
Because the numbers around the situation (on all sides, Doki, Niji, Drama buff all around) are down, it's over. Those who aren't going to watch, engage, or collaborate with her (or be in a situation to) are free to unfollow.

Following her has made it a "vote for her" sort of thing, and it's not worth the drama if you aren't gonna get some sort of buff from it

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone in this thread is either a retarded CatalogNig or a False-Flagging Sister.

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>>75240832
>Matara saying "Quinn triggered my maternal instincts and savior complex to help people"

It's because her brain got juiced by the clique. It is what it is. She too will eventually see how shit the clique is and what a cunt Quinn is.

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>>75253795
>Sayu on the other hand somehow didn't trigger her maternal instincts
Sayu is well into her 30s while Kyo is barely older than 20. You don't typically have maternal instincts for someone your own age.

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>>75246843
There are Jewish vtubers?

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>>75240832
I don’t care about any of this, the worst thing she actually did was
>cultivate the type of culture that made over half of the male niji EN fans leave
>complain about your numbers anyway
>leave and then cry about the terrible culture you helped create
still not as bad a person as enna, millie, or reimu

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>>75242652
Yeah, I think mint is a piece of shit. Rosemi too. All you nuggets are just coping.

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>>75246137
I fucking new it

[Anonymous No.]

>>75261925
seethe

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>>75246137
pfff tranny doesn't know Mint followed and interacted with Kamaniki who by the way told elira to fuck off and blocked her on twitter

guess who Doki chose to make her new schedule

[Anonymous No.]

>>75263585
>rest week btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>75263585
>doki leeching from Mint now that Mint mogs her in every metric except dead dying subs
Expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>75264817
How are you not bored of this already

[Anonymous No.]

>>75264889
Just let 'em keep thinking it. Doki can handle the sisters better than Mint could right now anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

Of course the coordinated NDF thread is centered around not-Nina. Nyfco dying really did a number to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75246843
this post single-handedly conviced me of the general "matara bad" argument and I'm not even being ironic

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>>75264817
keep crying tranny nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>75241048
>Quinn flopped
>multiple channels with one over 100k and the other over 200k
>has all the subs back he had at Niji which even Doki doesn't have yet
>about 500 ccv on twitch
>says he doesn't want to leave Twitch
Sounds like a failure alright.

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>>75266904
To be fair, Gigi's a friend of doki flat out. Her and Pokey forced doki into splatoon 2 a bit ago offstream.
>>75267316
This is not good considering how absurdly hard he was shilled. See all those spikes? Those are raids that immediately leave once they realize Quinn fucking sucks at streaming. I don't know what fucking blackmail he has on these /lig/gers but he still has far too many viewers than he deserves.

[Anonymous No.]

Doki is Chinese. She has actively always seen the people she works with, just that. Co-workers. Collabs, interactions with peers etc. It's just a means of networking and maintaining status, ensuring people remember your name. Some say she does this events and tournaments for fun, but the reality is that it keeps her relevant. Matara however considers business to be a personal element, which is why she is so emotionally driven with her goals. With spite being a huge factor during her time in Niji. The Clique isolated her until she forced herself in. She made them need her. The fanbase turned on her, she made them need her via the content style she approached. She is very smart in ensuring her presence is required. Same thing is happening with Mint. You NEED Matara, otherwise no podcast and thus no Mint return.

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>>75240832
rrat

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>>75267316
>has all the subs back he had at Niji which even Doki doesn't have yet
Not that great of a number, sister
Plus most of these subs he had before graduating on Niji because of his omegle reactions

[Anonymous No.]

>>75269801
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>Sayucucks have now shifted to shitting on matara
Top kek

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>>75277938
Notice how they also try to bring Doki into it too. Yeah I'm sure Matara not talking to sayu and doki are exactly the same things.

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>>75246349
Only the dead can know peace from this seeeth

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itt: retards that think basic networking skills is somehow shady

please name someone who became popular not through being signal boosted via networking or corpo, i'll wait

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>>75278743
You've at least stopped calling her Dooki, that's a start

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>>75240832
Even from her niji debut I never liked her, something about her personality just pisses me off.
Doki and Mint seem like much better people and more entertaining

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>>75277938
This pitybaiting can't be real

[Anonymous No.]

It is NDF hours I see

[Anonymous No.]

>>75277938
Emotionally manipulative faggot

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>>75282151
But enough about Elira

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>>75246104
Because Quinn started asking for help offstream and Doki didn't.
Doki doesn't seem like she wants to really interact with vshojo yet. She didn't accept Zentreya's invitation for a halo collab either even though they are actually friends and collabed before.
Case solved.

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>>75240832
There's a reason Nijisisters were active on Nina's page at the doxxsite. The fact that even those subhumans hate her speaks volumes

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>>75254091
Weird way to say whistleblowing

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can someone spoonfeed me who this bitch used to be and why I"m supposed to hate her?

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>>75278743
>Looks at thread
Projection is off the charts sister

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>>75286112
>Pl is Nina form niji
Sisters reason
>Not In clique
My reason
>Female vaush

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>>75240832
>>succeed, but are alone
>every single connection she's using
nice contradiction

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man thats really bad op but I think the fact that Elira bullied her coworker into a suicide attempt and then failed to properly address the consequences of her own actions with no apology or promise to do better in the future is a much more interesting problem because she will most likely cause more suicide attempts as she is now and the company behind her even harassed a girl who just tried to kill herself while she was in the hospital, seeing nothing wrong with pressuring a girl in an already weak mental state to make descisions.
For some reason such behavior was not apologized for.

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>new clique psyop
Lol
Lmao

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>>75286374
Thanks, but:
who's Nina? what's a clique? what's a vaush?

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>>75253246
Take your meds sister, you're getting worked up over nothing

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>>75286712
First how new are you?
Inorder
>Organ from niji
>Google it
> A shitty commie

[Anonymous No.]

>>75288771
I am old but I currently only watch Holos and used to watch Nyanners era vshojo

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>>75288971
Nyanner
>Eww
Hope Holo fix your taste also good stay out of these bs outside of holo

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>>75240832
> focuses her attention on someone who got way less attention/support

this post reeks of opportunistic deflection and I despise it

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>>75269801
bugwomen btfo

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If only doki would have just fucking killed herself like she planned to. Stupid bitch can’t even do the simplest of things.

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>>75261985
y mint bad? I ain't readin this whole thread

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>>75291179
Goons just hating people are not burning bridges due to their totally innocent 100% poor oshi who didn’t play the victim and didn’t take advantage of the pity party

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>>75240832
Not everyone have to interact with everyone, even if matara and doki has bad blood between them, they are in better place. Be happy and stop thinking too much

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>75291049
>75291426
Removing the IP counter was a mistake

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>>75252533
Here comes niji seethsss

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>>75245027
Checkmate

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>>75240832
Nah

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>>75240832
after she hung out with the ethyria shitters I lost interest on matara immediately also the quinn shilling was disgusting because of the alleged doxxing of sayu

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>>75277938
Least obvious falseflagging sister

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>>75240832
I'm going to be blunt, as a Dragoon, if Doki was in as dark a place as we know she was because she tried to kill herself, why the fuck would she want to think about Nijisanji during the healing period?
If anyone from or previously from nijisanji actually reached out to her, I expect they got one conversation and it either started or ended with "I don't want to think about what happened". Since then, she either A hasn't gotten over it, or B hasn't had time to catch up, because she's busier than a motherfucker.
That's why all this shitflinging and speculation about camps is so fucking stupid. There's a reason when she got back, she collabed with her closer friends who were insulated and way distant from the horseshit. Like outside of U-san, I don't see it happening anytime soon with anyone. Or maybe they're all just really bad at judging when the real dramastorm has died.
We don't and will never know who has reached out to her privately or why they have not. I imagine if you weren't close, it would be pretty awkward to reach out to a coworker who tried to kill themselves and you didn't hear about it for nearly a month.
We only know what happens in public.
>but sayu wasn't in nijisanji long
Sayu was the template for what happened to Doki. If an old friend stabs me in the back, I'm not sitting around on my ass commiserating with Caesar, that's some pussy shit. Sorry sayufags who think there's some beef or try to stir some, I don't see it.
>Mata
Man, no matter how you feel about Mata (I don't feel much), I'm grateful she brought Mint back to Vtubing, because it really looked like Mint was thinking of stopping.
Mint deserves all the glazing she can get, I'm going to go watch her marathon a kusoge just like arino on saturday. If she has props for that joke, that would be amazing to me

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hi

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>>75294819
Sayu actually reached out early on and tried to show support, but backed off once she noticed Doki wasn't responding. She doesn't want to be tied to Doki either, and would prefer if anything were to ever happen, it wouldn't just be as "lol we got fucked by the same job."

There's no beef to be had here, really, and anyone claiming otherwise is a shit stirrer who's clearly never watched Sayu or Doki.

Sayu does have beef with people like Cy Yu though, who were "friends" before Niji, then ditched Sayu after her smearing and suddenly came out with sob stories to support Doki a year later because it was convenient now to go against them for clout.

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>>75240832
To me she's either building her own version of the clique, or setting things up for the main three bitches when they can get out of Kurosanji.

Either way she's successfully started a Vshojo take over and the Nijisanji Retirement Home rep is going to stick on them now. Fuck that rat. Fake bitches like her always play nice.

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>>75296401
>building her own version of the clique, or setting things up for the main three bitches when they can get out of Kurosanji.
I can't see it any other way, Vshojo is going to be really fun after the nijiEN thing ends

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>>75296061
>Sayu actually reached out early on and tried to show support, but backed off once she noticed Doki wasn't responding.
I don't remember this happening, but I remember that one enshrouded stream when she was raided by LM and she thanked people for the sympathy but said she didn't appreciate the fact they were doing it while associating with Doki.

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>>75296523
I know you mean that sarcastically, but I know they'll be a fucking mess and we'll be hearing about drama probably not even six months into the clique reaching maturity AKA everyone Matara/main three wants there is there.

Sucks because Vshojo had some Vtubers who are cool. But at least the end result will show it was 60-70% her and the other clique members being complete shitheads and 30% utterly useless Niji management, when they weren't feeding into it.

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>>75297130
It was really early on for public stuff at least. She liked some tweets and made some comments, but nothing came out of it and she backed off. Also because any time she tried to say anything, the sisters would come out of the woodwork and start trashing on her again for trying to clout chase or whatever.

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>>75240832
>Matara and Quinn
Perfect fuel for a bait thread
>muh Dokibird
Made it too obvious.

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>>75297133
Ah yes, just like how Quinn ended up in Vshojo.
God you vshojo rrat peddlers are pathetic.

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>>75297241
Sisters won't stop attacking Sayu until she's completely silent and even then they'll make fun of her

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>>75299464
>Vshojo Orbiter

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>>75299642
Do you also think Hololive is doomed because the chicken hangs out with Ethyria?

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>>75299737
I didn't know hololive hired a bunch of exnijis after that interaction

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>>75299799
Hololive already hired an ex-niji long before Vshojo hired their first ex-corpo.

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>>75299642
Quinn had like 2 or 3 collabs with vshojos, calling him an orbiter is a stretch.

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>>75299826
You're not seriously comparing her to matara are you?

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>>75299840
I accept your concession.

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>>75299837
>Ignoring all the interactions with Matara and Kuro on Twitter designed to shill him pre-debut

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>>75299837
He was shilled very, very hard up to his debut.
They were clearly trying to make him a thing, and he was not a thing.

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>>75299889
>>75299911
>He was shilled very, very hard up to his debut
Fair enough, but I feel like shilling a friend to givce him a better debut is just a normal thing that people do. He's not a frequent collab partner, so he's really easy to ignore for viewers.

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>>75300139
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with in a vacuum. It's more the distinct contrast between Quinn pretending as if his time there was a nightmare, and as if he was constantly betrayed and hurt, which allegedly triggered Matara's "motherly instincts," and Sayu ACTUALLY being betrayed and hurt (especially by Quinn himself), and abandoned by Matara for a single slip-up after being in serious emotional distress and constant harassment for months by both the company and its fanbase. Matara spent plenty of time with both quinn and sayu, so it's unlikely she made that alliance without knowing how it'd affect her.

Matara comes off as disingenuous, and Quinn comes off as being a fucking grifter trying to be the next Doki.

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>>75300139
Shilling a friend is one thing, but shilling an acquaintance with whom you barely talked while in the same company (this was admitted by Matara herself) is completely different. Why she would choose to shill him this hard is something we probably won't know (maternal instincts, suuuure) but until the truth comes out the only explanation is that she thought she found an opportunity to make money

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>>75240832
*beheads and facefucks you*

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>>75300265
Yeah, and Sayu became too toxic of an asset and might've been harming her relationship with the remaining Niji members. That's the only reason I can think of for Matara ghosting sayu after her little spiel and never trying to or allowing sayu to attempt to fix it. Matara was pissed that Sayu might've implied that Matara was unhappy with Finana, Kotoka, enna/millie/elira, etc. and likely took some time to repair those relationships

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>>75301317
This on top of shilling that faggot who contributed to spreading sayu's dox just makes me think she's an irredeemable whore

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>>75300265
>quinn
>an opportunity to make money
lol this thread gets funnier and funnier. Baiting with Mata is out of control schizo level behavior, I fucking love it.

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>>75300265
>implication that quinn can make her money
lol
>still supporting him even now that he's a fucking 3 view
damn bro it's like you don't even pay attention to the people you're rrating about, like you're just making shit up your something, that's crazy

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niggas really still think wiggerman doxxed sayu
truly incredible IQ on this board
wigger is a faggot because he's an annoying and insufferable, not because he actually did anything

[Anonymous No.]

why is the NDF like this

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>>75242235
>Such as?? What other thing could she possibly want from by "glazing her up?"
Marriage

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>>75243654
Quinn did leave and find the same level of success elsewhere. He was always a failure clinging on to Enna's popularity.

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Imagine having so many brilliant talents and squander them like a bunch of retards, then get mad when people give them better opportunities. Jesus sister, you guys fucked up big time.

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>>75240832

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>>75267316
Oof. Only 1.6 finana's. What is the conversion factor for twitch to YouTube views?

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>You have to like Sayu's annoying crybaby ass because... because NIJI BAD?! OKAY?!?!
No
She's a dumb bitch who deserved her termination, just like NijiEN deserves to get the ID/KR/IN treatment

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>>75303591
she even admitted he didnt dox her lmao the worst he did was about her obsessions with shota

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>>75269801
>she does this events
ESLtard...

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>>75307498
He dual streams to Youtube, so if he gets 500 there then he's where we was in Niji.

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>>75240832
This is on-topic but Mint vageuposting on her RM regarding to drama is not?

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>>75307935
Grim. Anyway. Fuck all y'all for reminding me that wigger exists. I'm going to go back to forgetting about him.

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>>75299737
>the chicken
And Mori, and Nerissa, and even Mumei who has been strangely distancing herself from Doki.

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>>75299737
Well, by /vt/ logic U-San must also be a part of the clique, since the only prerequisite is to be on good terms with someone already considered to be in clique, and U-San is still on good terms with Matara.
But wait, if we follow that logic chain to it's conclusion, U-San - now confirmed member of clique - is still on good terms with Doki...

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>>75311093
>Anons working themselves into a shoot
Many such cases!

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>>75309835
>Mumei
Does she know?

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>>75241048
Quinn is fucking funny

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>>75313529
I agree, it's funny to watch him

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>>75311093
"The clique" continues to be /vt/'s version of Q. Just insanity that spirals further and further out of control that keeps having to reinvent itself in order to account for all the contradictions and not make them contradictions. All while the truth seems pretty obvious. There was a falling out with the way in which Doki left Niji that has burned some bridges. Relationships before she left may not still be accurate to their current status as a result and trying to act like nothing changed is what's creating all the problems in the first place.

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>>75242305
No? Doki literally dngaf and wants to move on. The only ones who care about it sinking are the viewers and dramatubers. No one else. Yes the ex organs will make fun of Niji but they don't care if it burns down or not.

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>>75313735
No, it's been pretty consistent from the start. Hanamori members = get more opportunities than non hanamori members. Non hanamori members have to fall in line or get fucked out of shit.

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>>75261925
>leave and then cry about the terrible culture you helped create
huh?

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>>75311762
qrd?

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>>75240832
Hag

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>>75318689
Constant male collab spamming. Granted, she had no choice, since the rest of her gen told her to get fucked

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>>75309835
Mumei distancing her from Doki, why?

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I hope the narrative of Mint still being friend with the clique is not true. I couldn't handle it...

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>>75240832
>threadis 30 hours old
>still up
HOLY SHIT WHY!?

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>>75311093
I figured it out.
Doki is also in the clique.

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>>75240832

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>>75313681
Dont forget this is AFTER being heavily shilled by the biggest indies and matara

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>>75300265
His twitter engagement was super high. Matara expected more traction with the bought engagement.

[Anonymous No.]

just be nice to them

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>>75323217
no anon, what I don't get is when she cried or complained about male collabs? She's pretty unapologetic about that

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>>75326611
Doxxsite dying pls understand

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>>75334458
Nijisisters instinctively know to congregate around the likeness of (not) Nina.

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>>75240832

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>>75240832
nice astroturfing, sayufag
we know you still seethe about her blocking sayu on fucking twitter of all places because she's a menhera who just cannot shut the fuck up for one day

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>>75344826
>menhera who just cannot shut the fuck up for one day
that's nijisanji

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>>75344929
Nah, that's Sayu. She's only relevant because she's a drama magnet. Her own general is dead 90% of the time unless Sayu decides to go full retard and start another feud on Twitter.

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>>75344826
>>75345043
Rent free nijisis

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>>75345043
>Her own general is dead 90% of the time
that's /ethyria/ or whatever the fuck it's called

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>>75311093
All I’m getting from this is that despite being a confirmed ubermenhera, U-San is still one of the chillest and drama-free ex/niji talents.
The bar for personal maturity sure is low.

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>>75240832
dokifags are mentally ill

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>>75245091
only good post ITT
kys OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>75350683
>can't tell the most obvious, blatant nijisis false flagging apart from actual dragoons

[Anonymous No.]

>>75350891
I've seen enough dragoons responding seriously to bait like this to know that dragoons are some of the biggest tribalfag shitposters on the board

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck is this thread still alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>75354001
vshojo living rent free in the heads of antis

[Anonymous No.]

>>75354001
Because people like you keep bumping it

[Anonymous No.]

>>75354001
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>75354001
vshojofags will defend their liars to the bitter end
https://archive.is/AYrym

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>>75350954
I've seen a lot of falsfaggers and trolls, but I've not seen a lot of dragoons in these threads, besides my stupid effortposts where I try to stop people from attributing stupid takes to our peaceful, goslinging retards in /haha/
>>75294819 (me)