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So... Why did it flop?

>> No.75077128

>>75077097
>kobo kanaeru

>> No.75077137

i want to say it but i'll get banned for 3 days

>> No.75077159

Damn that's actually really bad. Didn't her last two MVs hit 1m in like less than a day?

>> No.75077162

>>75077097
IDK man half a million views in under 24 hours seems really good for any youtube video

>> No.75077191

>>75077162
Considering this probably cost northwards of 100k for production and advertisement... This is pretty awful.

>> No.75077202

>>75077162
Why did Nerissa's original song get 1M in 12 hours?

>> No.75077237

>>75077159
>Didn't her last two MVs hit 1m in like less than a day?
No not really

>> No.75077247

>>75077097
taylor swift released a new album? i don't know.

>> No.75077250

>>75077097
>Indog
There you go

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>>75077202
this one?

>> No.75077256

>>75077097
GRIM

>> No.75077270

>>75077202
the only original song she has hasn't even reached 400k anon what are you talking about?

>> No.75077297

>>75077237
No, I'm quite positive Treasure Box was 1m before the day was done, or at least within 30 hours. This has had about as much time to stew but only has half the views. Losing 50% of your watch audience for the same expenses is bad. Really bad.

>> No.75077311

>>75077097
Half a mil in less than a day is flopping? I know this is a lazy bait thread but christ sister at least try to hide your seethe

>> No.75077328

>>75077297
They're both flops
Come back when they beat REFLECT

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>>75077097
hmm..

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>>75077191
Jeez man thats alot of money for a single video, I get that they're most likely millionaires but I wouldnt drop that much dough for something I dont technically own.
>>75077202
Idk bro, maybe people really liked nerissas song?

>> No.75077346

>>75077137
oshiete kudasai

>> No.75077356

>>75077334
based taytay

>> No.75077360

Kobo unironically.
This isn't a Marine song, Marine got roped into performing one with Kobo and it shows. The whole vibe of the video reminds me way too much of what ID is constantly covering, KDA shit and other K-Pop stuff. The only reason they debuted this song on Marine's channel is the fact she has more growth and prestige than Kobo in the music industry.

>> No.75077372

>>75077328
Treasure Box has 40m views and is one of the most popular songs in Hololive, having gone viral on TikTok.
This song though... I don't see anyone dancing to this, to be honest.

>> No.75077391

>>75077097
Collab songs like this are not popular no matter how much they cost. Shinkiro was exactly the same.

>> No.75077423

>>75077360
The reason it's on Marine channel is because she was the one that was made to pay for it.

>> No.75077427

>>75077372
Reflect has 60M views
None of Marine's flops hold a candle to it

>> No.75077456

>>75077427
What are you counting to get to 60M? Surely just the official MV... Right?

>> No.75077478

>>75077335
>>75077202
She had a whole stream leading up to it to hype it up or something didn't she?

>> No.75077482

>>75077191
Don't be ridiculous. Not even Marine is insane enough to invest that much on a music video. This is more in the Northwest of 20k for everything.

>> No.75077534

>>75077482
>Advertisement
>Animation
>Mixing
>Music track
I could easily see this being 100k+. Animation alone would cost 20k.

>> No.75077541

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxE2sBs022Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8AAbxjcprQ

>> No.75077646

>>75077097
lmaooo this indog bitch can't sing, too much semen stuck in her throat

>> No.75077756

>>75077297
No is not. Music is a volatile thing. You can get 100 million views in a month for one song, then barely beak 1 million views on your next one, just to get 20 million on the next. It means nothing in the great scheme of things. Is like preparing a funeral for a YouTube channel, because it had a viral video, but the next one wasn't viral. Some songs will always be more popular than others. People shouldn't judge Marine's music by Treasure Box or Rouge, just songs and MV's were just really viral - because they had a great MV, they were bops, and had stuff that pushed virality, such as dance moves which were then imitated by everyone on TikTok and shorts. The others just perform normally.

>> No.75077839

>>75077097
This is a Kobo song not a Marine song so it will get Kobo views or even worse

>> No.75077885

>>75077097
>muh numbers
kys

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>>75077334
>muh taylor

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>>75077427
what about this one?

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>>75077328
In that case, you're all flops

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>>75077427
>60m
the other one has 13m. no where near 60m, chumbie

>> No.75078015

>>75077427
>>75077981
>they vocalized 16m as 60m and fucked it up
you can't make this shit up
also >>75077945

>> No.75078082

>>75077541
kino

>> No.75078160

>>75077191
>northwards of 100k
Shinkiro and Unison both were fully animated with elaborate long parts and cost less than 60k.
This one has a lot of repeated sequences with only their characters being animated on a static 3d background for most of the parts of the video. I'm sure that it cost less than her previous MV.

>> No.75078162

>>75077297
Treasure Box indeed broke the record, but I dare you to visit r/Holostatistics and search for "Marine 1M" and you'll see that she very rarely broke 1M within 24 hours.

>> No.75078216

>>75077360
>>75077839
Where in this song would one find elements of kobo? The lyrics only relate to Marine. Marine no longer wants to stream, but she wants to increase her subscriber count. Therefore, she's just using Pekora, Gura, and kobo as accessories.

>> No.75078243

>>75077097
I can't hear theirs vocals.

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>> No.75078275

>>75078257
oh my god it's so SMALL
who is it?

>> No.75078300

>>75078275
Kobo Jr.

>> No.75078323

>>75078216
The lyricist said that the lyrics have themes relating to both of them.

>> No.75078328

>>75078300
adorable. I hope they're healthy and happy

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I love that Kobo lives rent free in this board's mind.

>> No.75078415

>>75078338
I don't think you know what that idiom means.

>> No.75078491

Chumbuds are so fucking delusional holy shit

>> No.75078494

>>75078323
Where exactly is it? It seems like the lyricist is just making post hoc justifications. I've reread it several times, but there was no necessity for kobo anywhere.

>> No.75078522

>>75077097
When did 500k in less than 24h become bad?
95% of youtubers wish for such numbers.

>> No.75078580

>>75078494
In her parts? Those are not related to Marine in any way like you claim.

>> No.75078691

>>75077427
It's 16M.
And reflect is a shit song only popular because muh gura.

>> No.75078804

>>75077297
I fucking hate you retarded dramatic numberniggers so fucking much

>> No.75078945

God it's impossible to not laugh at chumkeks

>> No.75079021

>>75078580
If the purpose was to promote kobo, the song should have put kobo more in the forefront. However, what she's been given is a role that seems more like part of the chorus, something anyone could sing in the same way.

>> No.75079058

>>75079021
Now I'm 100% convinced that you have not actually heard the song or seen the lyrics.

>> No.75079080

>>75077328
>thinking REFLECT is some big shit
come back when that song beats Treasure Box.

>> No.75079082

>>75079021
basically the same as chloe/fuwamoco's song.
It really bugs me that they're not even in the thumbnail.
...oh right as I check it, they apparently have a new thumbnail that DOES show all 3 of them. Good job on fixing that, Chloe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5c9WfWUBZE

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>>75077427
>anon... do you even know how to count?

>> No.75079183

>>75077097
Because people are tired of K/DA slop

>> No.75079325

>>75079058
Have you yourself confirmed the contents of the lyrics? They are simply in English, and there are no elements of kobo included.

>> No.75079526

>>75079325
The lyrics are not 100% english.
If there's no elements of kobo then there's no elements of marine either.

>> No.75079602

For a thread about numbers, a lot of the ones in this thread are not even remotely accurate. Bizarre thread. Song seems to be doing fine.

>> No.75079628

>>75077097
Because it's a decent enough song but would have been 100% MUCH MUCH better if they sang it using their normal sexy womanly voices instead of their squeaky voices. Just imagine it and you'll see what I mean.

>> No.75079668

>>75079628
It's fine though. It's very Giga. Wish she had got Rolua to draw a bunch of it too

>> No.75079843

>>75077334
yeah but has Taylor ever dropped lyrics as hot as "jesus jesus japanesus"?

>> No.75080011

>>75077097
retard

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>>75077097
It’s just not a very good song desu, that’s kinda the short and simple of it. It doesn’t feel nice to listen to and feels very “not marine”. Also it has nothing to do with the song doing poorly, but the forced dance choreography bit with the little chibi versions of kobo and marine just come off as so desperate to gain traction on tiktok that it leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth.

I don’t think it’s kobo’s fault, like her and marine’s singing was of a good quality, but the song itself was just “meh”.

>> No.75080175

>>75077097
Because Kobo is a whore who even offcollabs with males. Beyond the impossible of acceptable. Marine should have known better and picked someone better

>inb4 unicorn chud
I am female and stopped watching Altare because of that indog whore

>> No.75080228

>>75080175
post tits

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>>75077097
https://files.catbox.moe/mobj99.mp4

>> No.75080684

>>75080175
Based femunicorn. Protect your holobros from whores.

>> No.75080737

>>75077254
>>75077254
I didn't know she had an original song until this post. does she not talk about it in her stream?

>> No.75083053

>>75077534
It's a rather simple MV, done by freelancer aided by a Chinese studio. I would be shocked if this was more than 8k. 10-12k for the song, and there you have it. Plus, Kobo likely contributed too. And what advertisement?

>> No.75083209

New META on 4ch ...
Take a new Holosong, 12-24 hours after it launched. All above 100k views, doesn't matter the views.
'Why did it flop? DTHDAAAAAAAAHH!!! DTHDAAAAAAAH!!! *<- handicaped down syndrome kid sounds'

>> No.75083231

>>75083053
Anon got paid dozens of yen to make this thread.

>> No.75083320

>>75077097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUDPjyfmJrs

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>>75079843
Taylor's latest album is chockfull of only the hottest of banging lyrics.

>> No.75084005

>>75083961
>like a tattooed golden retriever

>> No.75084081

>>75083961
>ate 7 bars of chocolate
>fall asleep like a tattooed golden retriever
What the fuck is this bitch trying to say?

>> No.75084741

>>75083320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUqIih-Ilg
the instrumentals alone have no right to be this good as a background music

>> No.75084810

>>75083961
does anyone remember that conspiracy theory that taylor browses 4chan? do you think thats true?

>> No.75085142

>>75084741
boss fight vs a brazilian footballer

>> No.75085408

>>75077297
You're trying too hard.

>> No.75085482

>>75077097
Its Kobover for Kobo

>> No.75085503

>>75080175
if ur female why is ur dick so big to plop it down on the table like that?

>> No.75085532
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Oh look, it's the "Why did it flop" thread

>> No.75085886

>>75077097
>Video released the day before this post.
>already 1/2 million views.
>Y it fail

Will you fuckers go jump off a bridge?

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>>75077097
>HoloID
Why I wonder?

>> No.75086607

>>75083961
My girl taytay knows about golden retriever boyfriend x black cat girlfriend.

>> No.75086915

>>75080014
I agree on both points. I'd add that the butt shots at 1:50 feel the same, almost as if she saw people talking about Chimera and wanted something similar (I don't think she did, the timing seems too tight for that, it's just how it feels to me.)

>> No.75087246

>>75080175
based female unicorn

>> No.75087886

>>75077534
What advertisement anon?
Mixing doesn't even cost 1k
>>75077360
Retard didn't even watch Marine's stream when this dropped

>> No.75087969

>>75080175
holy based

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it's funny how the top song by the world's top vtuber was composed by an indog

>> No.75089244

>>75089017
He's American now

>> No.75089282

>>75077478
>>75077202
Between her original song being a damp squib and her failed 669k sub marathon stream she's probably very unsure of herself right now.

>> No.75089362

>>75089282
>damp squib
I see you have seen the egg corn video as well.

>> No.75089406

>>75077482
This one? IDK. However, Set Sail and I'm Your Treasure Box are both confirmed to cost 200k+ and 100k+ respectively. There are precedences

>> No.75089445

>>75083961
Subtle dig at Charlie Puth for some reason kek.
If I wasn’t into vtubers I would probably be a schizo about this bitch in /mu/ or something.

Was this album supposed to be intentionally bad?

>> No.75089501

>>75089362
No, it's just a term I know from being native English, Ranjeesh.

>> No.75089683

>>75077097
Unmemorable slop with crappy dance moves and the worst possible title searching wise, only Q is worse

>> No.75089693

>>75077097
Collabing with ID = flop.

>> No.75089775

>>75083961
What about the one where she's getting finger blasted with people are playing GTA

>> No.75089837

>>75077097
no actual melody

>> No.75089993

>>75077254
>Less than 400k in more than 7 days
Jesus. Is this the worst performing first-OG from HoloEM members since '22 (or just Holo members in general)?

>> No.75091309

>>75077097
I have no idea who this is for. zoomer? kpoop?

>> No.75091556

>>75079148
This isn't what greentexting is for you fucking newfag

>> No.75091595

>>75089362
Fucking zoomers istg

>> No.75092153

>>75089837
Music doesn't need a melody to be good, but you have to actually be a good musician to pull it off.

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>>75077097
1. It has kobo kanauru or whatever in it so most people dont want to watch it.
2. The song itself just sounds bad in general.

>> No.75092429

The mix is actually terrible

>> No.75094334

>>75087886
Retard https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1786606679657677308

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>>75080737
Having just listened to the song. I just think the problem with its performance is it's a 6/10 at best. Which is unfortunate , cause I was hoping for more after her aishite cover.

Backing track was good, vocals where great, lyrics where a fuckin boner killer.

>> No.75095729

>>75092230
I didn't even know it existed, but now that I know it has Kobo in it I will go watch it.

>> No.75095826

>>75094905
Her Aishite cover was completely mogged by Ado, which is funny because Nerissa's cover of God-ish had already been covered by Ado and was mogged before she even uploaded it. She's a fine singer but the world is full of those.

>> No.75098209 [DELETED] 

>>75079183
>This retard thinks i didn't greentext that one intentionally like this one simply because i want to.

Eat shit newfag.

>> No.75098640

>>75091556
>This retard thinks i didn't greentext that one intentionally like this one simply because i want to.
Eat shit newfag.

>75079183
my bad I mistagged you, got distracted earlier while replying

>> No.75099008

>>75077097
I haven't watched it, sorry.

>> No.75099263

>>75095826
Ado is a professional singer and not a vtuber. We saw even Suisei got easily mogged by Layer in her own live. The only pro level holomems are Ina in drawing, Noel in boobs and Ayame in cute.

>> No.75102919

I'm fairly certain Shiori has a major in something related to video editing, which makes her a professional too

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>>75089993
Not even fucking close. I'm specifically using pekora as a example to show it doesn't even matter if you are the most popular vtuber in the company. The algo changes back in summer 2022 basically destroyed holo music on youtube unless you have a viral MV now.

>> No.75102981

>>75099263
>>75102919(me)
forgot to quote

>> No.75103150

>>75102942
Well since nothing else got affected I assume these changes were specifically aimed at and applied only to hololive.

>> No.75103197

>>75095729
Based dungeater

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