/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I STILL can't believe they hired this nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938473
He faked his death to flee from his previous community, basically

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
It would be really funny if he dipped from Nijisanji by "dying"

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
he'll be fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938550
kek actually psychotic

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938550
Incorrect. He
>was a semi-famous content creator in a specific circle of vidya youtube
>moved to japan
>decided he was done making videos since japan was more fun (based honestly)
>pretend to have a terminal illness to get away from it
>open donations
>post a final video months later saying he's in the final stages
>leaves donations open
>ceases all activities for years
>community fondly remembers him
>so beloved he even gets immortalized in TF2
>comes back with an ARG about a frog melting or something equally schizo
>only after someone notices him playing on his steam account
>reveals in a video "haha yeah it was just a joke"
>everyone hates him
>Valve removes his tribute
Also fun fact. Another person mere months prior to him in the very same circle of Youtube, someone actually beloved by basically everyone and someone hes talked about watching several times, actually lost a battle with cancer. It was presumably what gave him the idea, so the scumfuck bastard faked his death for money after an idol of his actually croaked. He is genuinely subhuman.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanker

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
>these are the type of men to become vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Wow that's... honestly impressive scumbaggery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Holy shit, that's even worse than Finana's joke stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Kitty died way too young. He was the most Fabulous of us all...

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
holy fuck, really puts vox and luca's shenanigans into perspective

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
where the FUCK does niji find their hires? no seriously, how can a company have this bad of a streak with their pulls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWDFMh6ResU

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
so you are saying nijisanji is a hive of scum and villainy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
>>74940884
And now he's worshipped by hordes of Asian fujos. Crazy how the world works.

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>>74940884
Holy shit is this real?

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>>74940977
I'll be honest, even compared to all the shit Vox "I GROOM MINORS" Acoomer and Luca "Mommy does my handwriting for me" Kaneshiro have done, I still think Sonny's the worst of pretty much any vtubers past I've seen. There's plenty of people who infuriate me almost as much or have outright done illegal shit that's significantly worse, but to me his sins are laser-focused on pressing my buttons specifically as quickly and painfully as possible.

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>>74938078
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74941344
>>74941221

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>>74941366
Meant to reply to >>74941175 but both work I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Someone from the same circle of YouTube... Wait, Kitty?! Did he get the idea from what happened to Kitty0706?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74941212
Remember Shindo Raito, the literal rapist? It's not even their pulling ability, they don't even bother with basic criminal record and background checks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Not even surprised, this is just what I expect from a Niji organ

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>>74941523
Can't say 100% for sure, but considering how he started his story mere months after he passed and ended it not even a year after? Well, he'll never say it was why he faked his death, but as far as I'm concerned it was.

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>>74940884
Pretty gross tbhdesu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74941635
>literal rapist
He wishes he was a rapist, all the limpdicked loser ever did was brag about totally roofie-ing people. As a nip I'd have an easier time believing him if he said he dealt heroin instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74941635
he wasn't a literal rapist though
he got kicked for an old joke tweet because males were still the primary audience of nijisanji at that point

[Anonymous No.]

>>74942723
>joke tweet
And a video clipping of a stream where he was down in his room basically going
>bro I just wanna get into like, a vtuber company man, I'd totally bang all the hot chicks after drugging them in their sleep lol, they'd lose to the cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
The amount of replies just finding this out really shows how many drama newfags this board has gotten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Almost gives one hope

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>>74940884
I know TF2's reddit community is pretty faggy but he could've just said he was burned out of the game, moved to another country, and was too overall busy to keep playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Heard he was 17 when this happened, so not an adult but still old enough to know better. Really disappointing behavior from someone in the TF2 community, not sure why niji overlooked how much damage he’d done. They had more than enough applicants to pick someone as equally talented or better, not a reminder of a schizo past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943148
I personally knew about faked death, I didn't know he literally scammed people for money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943476
Honestly if a bunch of redditors wanted to give me free money, I might have done the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943476
I dont understand why he couldnt have just said he wanted to go on an indefinite hiatus and just never return kek
kinda evil to worry people like that for no reason and the bastard got away with it too

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
>>open donations
>>post a final video months later saying he's in the final stages
>>leaves donations open
so how much did he earned by lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943951
This was pre-superchat Youtube donations, so nobody knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>he can't fake his own death to get out of nijisanji because he's already played that card
What he fucking deserves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943715
This is the part that's most confusing.
Unlike Jerma or Ster or basically any other old name who used to play TF2 but now barely does, Sonny didn't want to transition to a new type of content. He wanted to STOP making content entirely. Literally all he ever had to do was just say "I'm feeling burnout and wanna/might quit" and nobody would have batted an eye, there's millions of Youtubers like that. But instead he had to add his name to the annals of history as one of the relatively few who've faked a death for... no discernable reason? And even came back himself for also no reason? People were breaking their backs bending over backwards to rationalize his steam account coming back as him "gifting it to a friend after his passing", and that was seen as a completely believable.

The man is just baffling to me. It's hard for me to see him as a person in the emotional sense of him being someone who spits on graves of people he "likes" for money, but I also can't see him as a person in the sense that his mind is a genuine enigma because he had a perfect getaway but instead decided to ruin his own fame. And then come back as a Vtuber 2 or 3 years after his reveal that he faked it all. It's like robbing a bank and then turning around and walking right back in: it just doesn't fucking make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74944499
He's just not very smart, please understand.

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>>74944634
I understand that people can not be smart, but this is just a whole 'nother level beyond any form of understandable autism. If he wanted positive fame then he had it when he "died" and was immortalized as a better youtuber than he ever truly was, if he wanted negative attention then he had it when he resurrected from the dead and people all but called him a faggot, and if he simply wanted to go back to normal life and not be a content creator anymore he had it both when he first left and when he stopped for a few years post-comeback but pre-niji.

Like... what's even the drive behind any of his actions over the past decade? Is my schizophrenic powerlevel just too low?

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>>74944499
he's a human as far as having the necessary body parts but im sure he's as soulless as his model

[Anonymous No.]

He didn’t scam or try to scam anyone. I’m just gonna repost this
https://web.archive.org/web/20150226152114/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3PDb_Ty9XO49sELeJ_XIQ
Archive of his channel (February 26 2015) showing the support button was there way before he ever announced it
https://web.archive.org/web/20160505074409/https://www.youtube.com/user/sketchek
He removed it sometime in late 2015 or early 2016, right after he left, probably because he realized he didn’t want people sending him money while he wasn’t making content
The support button feature was added to Youtube in late 2014, he probably added it then. It’s even sillier to assume he put it there for the death thing since it was for yen and he never advertised it or talked about needing money

[Anonymous No.]

>>74945572
You mysteriously forgot the link of the exact day when he uploaded his final "I'm dead" video where the support button was still up. How come?

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>>74945653
Huh? I said he removed it some time after he left, my point is that he did not add the feature when or after he announced his “illness” and it had been there for at least months prior. The support button was a common feature used on Youtube, it’s not like he opened a patreon or whatever

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>>74938078
>>74940884
I have no actual feelings towards this guy but I judge anyone who supports someone who does that kind of retarded shit

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>>74945572
how does this excuse lying about being dead instead of being a man and just telling the truth sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>74945940
My post wasn’t about excusing that and you know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>74945736
You said
>He removed it sometime in late 2015 or early 2016, right after he left, probably because he realized he didn’t want people sending him money while he wasn’t making content
If the button was still there the day he announced he was quitting because he was dying, or actually I believe the day after, then what even is your argument?

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>>74946015
By right after I mean shortly after, not literally the day he left. I literally linked an archive from early 2016 which was a few months after he left with it gone, it was some time in between then that he removed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
I was heavily into TF2 when this happened, this dude went from being a complete legend in our niche community to hated overnight. It was pretty sad to see, fucker even made an apology video around the time of rick mays death (voice actor for the game).

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>>74946099
So he did still want people sending him money after his supposed death? Because if he didn't want that and he knew he was going to fake a death, why would he not simply take down the button prior to uploading the video?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74942723
>males were still the primary audience of nijisanji at that point
I know you are saying this with a nuanced relativity in mind but even so...when did they ever stop beong the primary audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943148
The TF2 communtity isn't exactly a big thing mate, this whole drama was only known by a fairly small amount of people. It makes complete sense why anons /here/ wouldnt know about it

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>>74946160
Or maybe it was never that important to him and he never thought to remove it until then. My whole point is that people claim that he added this feature when he announced his “illness” when that’s misinformation and there’s no clue to the idea that he was trying to scam people with it since it was a commonly used feature that he added at least months before. If he actually wanted that money wouldn’t he keep it up forever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946236
So you accept he accepted donations for an indiscernible amount of time after his faked death?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946271
Sure? But he likely wasn’t trying to scam people

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946301
My brother in christ he pretended to die of cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946301
That is the literal definition of a scam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946357
Goal post moving and he literally said it wasn’t cancer when he “announced” it

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>>74938078
>Former content was Team fortress frag montages set to earthbound music
A bit on the fence on if this is based or cringe
It's at least one of the more unique hires for a vtuber corpo i guess...

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>>74946301
>plan a fake death for half a year
>leave donations on after you post the final video you've been planning on doing for that entire time
>leave your donations open through and at the very least slightly after the process
>b-but this isn't a scam!
You should become an artist, you're amazing at making a perfect circular loop.

[Anonymous No.]

why is this sister defending him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946396
my bad replace cancer with terminal illness it sounds just as bad

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>>74946368
Having a donation box that anyone could donate to for any reason that was never intended to be for his illness (which was up way before he ever even announced it) nor advertised and for some reason was labled in yen which most people don’t have access to, is not a scam. We don’t even know if anyone donated to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946434
You should be a detective because you’re great at trying create a narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946448
a hot model changes everything. im sure if he looked like an ogre she wouldnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946484
>We don’t even know if anyone donated to it
>literally the exact same logic as a sister from a couple weeks ago
>>/vt/thread/73148292#p73165758
KEK okay ignore her she's just going to try and spam her retarded argument for another 3 hours to bumplimit

let this thread stay up for a couple days

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946484
>We don’t even know if anyone donated to it
motherfucker you acuse me of moving the goal post you fucking absconded with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946672
>>74946681
>ignoring literally everything in the rest of the post to gotcha the last sentence
Typical tactic of disingenuous people who spread misinformation

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946672
Time really IS a circle, holy shit. Does she get paid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946672
>isreal

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946672
Kek no way it's a literal bot

[Anonymous No.]

>sisters actually get caught timelooping again
poor sis, you should've just stuck with arguing semantics in the first two posts instead of showing your hand

[Anonymous No.]

And now it’s samefagging because it has no argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>74944499
What else is there to understand other than the fact that he was mentally ill and thought that videogames had literally ruined his life? He was constantly doom posting about his life being terrible and wanting to end it all. It's really not that complicated. What twittersis, not enough "cancelling" in the vtuber industry for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946900
I think you replied to the wrong post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946900
DYRBI?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947052
>he was mentally ill
>oh but only in the way that it fits my narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947117
>wah wah my life is terrible i hate making videos
>why don't you just stop making videos
>i'll fake my death, perfect idea friend!
>wait no--

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947216
Yeah, mental illness

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947244
sounds like a wretched personality not a mental illness. by his own words he said it was all just a sick joke sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947304
So faking your death as a joke and because you thought video games were ruining your life doesn’t sound like something a mentally unsound person would do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947304
Really they're both the same thing, the stuff that makes someone an empty husk of a human being.
It brings me genuine happiness knowing Sonny will never be happy with his lot in life.

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>>74940884
Of course this is the kind of male that becomes a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
Why? Nijisanji loves scamming people they even scam their own talents.

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>>74940884
And the craziest thing is that this dude right now is among the most "decent" Nijimales. Or at least he isn't directly involved in any of the big drama.
So not only they hired a complete subhuman pulling a fucking IASIP tier psycho stunt but they somewhat managed to hire even worse tards.
The absolute fucking state of male Vtubers.

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>>74946484
Let's put aside the donation scam and assume that he didn't receive any. He fucking faked having a terminal illness for clout and sympathy and later faked his death. How fucked up in the head you have to be to do that?
He does not have any type of defense, someone like that should not have a platform on the internet, he is a bad person and a terrible influence.

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>>74947786
Ask him if he'll ever stream TF2. Maybe it'll trigger him to have a meltdown

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>>74947786
Skimming the list I'd say Alban is basically the only decent one. The only yabs I've heard about him is that he was a homobaiter. Maybe Doppio too, but he's part of the Zaion wave so it's a 50/50.

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>>74946207
nigga male viewers
you think male viewers are the primary audience of fucking Niji now?????
Mito was still the top dog
Raito debut with fucking Gibara who was going to be the biggest female before she jumped ship after doing an idol gig with Kaza

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>>74948017
I honestly don’t care if you think any of that I’m just calling out misinformation when I see it
The guy had it up for at least months before he announced the illness, almost everyone on Youtube had one since it was rolled out late 2014, he labeled it as if he was only asking for yen, and he never put any promotion towards it nor did he ever allude to needing money. To think that this was a scam even if it was left up for a few months after he left, possibly because he probably forgot about it altogether, is stupid. If anything you could say it was immoral of him to accept the money if he even realized he was still getting any, but it’s not some calculated scam and the fact that he even ever removed it so shortly after leaving makes me doubt that assessment even more so

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>>74948198
>Mito was still the top dog
You realize was and still in this context are mutually exclusive, correct? Nobody can understand what you're yammering about.

And why is that sister still yappin'? Does she think writing up a big-ass post will make anyone forget about >>74946672

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948094
Selen got him to do a big collab stream you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>it was up for a few months
>he removed it shortly
lol. lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948392
>it wasn't a scam because he, possibly, didn't think of it as a scam

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948392
You keep talking about the scam allegations and I don't care about allegations, being depressed, or burn out is not an excuse to fake a terminal illness for months and the fake your death, it's not an opinion, it's not a point of view, it's facts.
You are using one piece of the discussion to defend him ignoring the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948630
The definition of a scam is phishing someone into an allusion that they are donating to a fake cause. He never even asked for money. The donation box wasn’t intended for anything related to his illness. You cannot be this stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948710
I haven’t defended him faking his death a single time in this thread, do you want the final say that badly?

[Anonymous No.]

how is there a thread on this now and not when your 3dpd oshi critikal made a video on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948785
>do you want the final say that badly?
Bold words coming from someone who can't stop screaming
>h-here's why it's okay he had donations on from prior to the second he pre-planned his death
>a-and here's why it's not a bad thing he didn't turn it off at any point during that process or afterwards

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948906
That’s a lot of green that I never said

[Anonymous No.]

if i was him i'd fake my death to get away from TF2 fags too kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948785
You are implying adding comments about is mental health at the time. He is a piece of shit who doesn't belong on the internet nobody cares if he received donations or not, he did something horrid on the back of Kitty0706's death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948996
I know you want to tell everyone how much of a piece of shit he is but that wasn’t the point of my original post

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948630
Would you say that excuse would be dead in court?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74949644
You literally could not even bring this to court, are you kidding me

[Anonymous No.]

>>74949644
It's a double whammy of "I didn't know" and "I was insane at the time"

[Anonymous No.]

>>74949662
>ESL doesn't understand what a pun is
tail as olde as thyme

[Anonymous No.]

>>74949833
I got the pun, I’m just saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>74949890
>I got the pun
>still got mad because someone said court
okay sissy

[Anonymous No.]

I'd kneel if he faked it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950050
Honestly? Same. Any scam artist who gets caught, admits to it, and then goes back to the grind a couple years later after reaching success is worthy of at least a momentary show of respect for the hustle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950175
>setting up a donation box because it just rolled out completely unrelated to your fake illness because it was months before, asking only for yen in the description which a majority of people wouldn’t have, and never promoting it or even alluding to needing money or being in a tight spot which is what scammers usually do, is a scam because i said so okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950050
>>74950175
>Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - shame on me

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950318
>good luck, I'm behind 7 layers of delusions

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950457
All of what I described is fact with proof though

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
>>74940884
You guys should let the JP antis know about this too. If anyone can rewrite this in a good digestible format in Japanese and post it to:
https://suki-kira.com/people/vote/サニー・ブリスコー
It could destroy his ranking in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
sister will turn blind eye to this but try to cancel hololive for selling cunny audio

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950372
>Fool me three times?
>FUCK YOU
>I AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN'T HAVIN' THAT SHIT!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
I would kneel if he did it again to bail ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948183
I agree about those two, but what's wrong with Ver and Bandage?

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized google wallet, which was required to have to receive money from fan funding, and fan funding itself wasn’t available in Japan at the time he set it up. He was in Japan since early 2015, so he never even received money during that time, and probably just set it up because he was a stupid kid. The latter explains why he would even ask only for yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>74951168
Actually correction, fan funding was available in Japan for some reason while Google Wallet was not. Unless I’m misunderstanding something

[Anonymous No.]

>>74951168
So let me get this straight
>sisters argue hes had donations since 2014
>it could have only been set up with yen in 2015
>thus sonny explicitly only opened donations the same year he decided to fake his death
Good catch man.

[Anonymous No.]

>Vox is bleeding viewers
>Nijisisters try to deflect by pointing fingers at non-clique members
Pretty fucked up that Nijisisters are willing to throw even current members under the bus

[Anonymous No.]

>>74951785
He set it up sometime between December 2014 and February 2015, so either when or just after it was added to Youtube in December. What’s your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948468
>he's pro-Selen
That explains why sisters hate him so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>74951168
>stupid kid
he was a grown ass man living in another country

[Anonymous No.]

>>74952234
He was 19 which is legally an adult but still retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>74948972
This. The idiots here don't realize how toxic the tf2 community was around 2016. Peak Overwatch year and most of their content creators and competitive players switched over. Of course they would be salty about any of their content creators leaving.

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>>74952127
But he was only in Japan in the end of summer of 2015, given the rough timespan he gave of "about 3 years ago" from February 2019 (because why wouldn't he say 4 years ago if he set it up in February 2015?), and being in Japan was explicitly what made him believe video games and thus his channel was ruining his life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74952880
The web archive link above shows proof that he had it since at the latest February 2015. Plus in his return video he said he was in Japan in early 2015

[Anonymous No.]

>>74953055
I have a quick question for you then.

What date did the video "bequest" get uploaded on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
sonny is still great to have around, just to boost the niji en numbers. and he has no drama, which makes him a viable option alongside vanta to invest in to propel them to luxiem's level. i think they both has good chances, and might even reach luxiem's numbers in 3 more months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74952234
>>74952294
>>74952880
his parents hated him and made him mentally ill and he was homeless in japan for a bit, for some reason everyone glosses over the homeless part

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946900
If that’s the case you really should have ended yourself Sonny

[Anonymous No.]

>>74953175
September, are we going to loop back to arguing over whether it was a scam or not because he left the donation box open. Because I’m pretty sure he couldn’t even use whatever money he possibly received for anything substantial while in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>if he did get donations from his scamtrain, it couldn't have even really been used for much
We accept your concession sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74953553
Obvious disingenuousness

[Anonymous No.]

>>74953573
Completely correct!
It was a mistake giving a woman any kind of genuine responses for any extended period of time. I should've listened to >>74946672.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74953957
So you genuinely think that he scammed people by setting up a donation box when the feature rolled out way before the illness thing, only asking for yen for some dumb reason, never alluding to needing money, all while he couldn’t even use it for anything in Japan because Google Wallet wasn’t available there? I’ve seen scams before, and they’re nothing like this

[Anonymous No.]

This is the narcissist's prayer as a defense force

[Anonymous No.]

>>74954225
Well, most folks who've been here since before the elections are used to seeing it. The funniest part is how bad mods are being at deleting a nyfco sister literally linking roommates.

[Anonymous No.]

sister would rather create a sad backstory on why a guy is mentally unstable enough to fake his death online so he could fuck off in Japan while scamming people out of money than just admit that it was a piece of shit thing to do. this is what a pickme is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74953240
Yeah he was homeless and he had cancer and was dead too. Sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947786
When the rest of NijiEN faggots are literal sex offenders (Luca), pedos (Vox), and homos (all), it's not much competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74956672
they really see him like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
It was from a long time ago. Move on. I've already changed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74956572
It was by definition not a scam, I don’t understand how anyone can insinuate this. There’s more indication towards him just turning it on when everyone else did, maybe he wanted some extra cash for his Japan trip since he was asking for yen. When someone actually wants money to scam people they open a whole patreon and beg for it or make allusions like he needs money for his medical bills or whatever
At worst the only thing you could argue was that it was shitty of him to continue to accept the donations, but there’s no proof that he didn’t even remember it was on since it’s not something youtube would notify you of and he couldn’t even use whatever money because of the stupid Google Wallet thing (which is also what donors would’ve had to use to donate in the first place)

[Anonymous No.]

>>74941278
No, that sounds like a worthy punishment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74957168
sister he told people he was dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>74957208
And if he really wanted money he would talk about how expensive medical bills are and you know, actually promote his donation box and not label it as yen. The youtube fan funding system was shit and it would’ve made more sense to open a Patreon. PLUS he opened it before any of the illness shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>74956971
>sisters see sonny the con man as Con Man
If only kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946581
I mean, he looks like an ogre irl though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74957554
man the anime avatar really does delude people huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>74956572
Damn, I should become a niji then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74961020
Oh yeah, what happened to the guys that wanted to apply to fuck Petra and uh, another female organ, was it Scarle?
Unless your living conditions and mental health are already in the gutter than going into Niji wouldn't make much of a difference, then it's really not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74962612
Haven't seen them around but I was also in that thread. I got a steady job and I'm old enough to not take bullshit from an under paid under aged nip intern so I wonder what kind of wild ride it would be to join niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74952127
>He set it up sometime between December 2014 and February 2015
Wait wait wait.
So you're telling us that Sonny set up his donations when he was in Japan at those specific points in time, and he could have only done it in Japan because Youtube determines what donation "must be donated to you" (as if exchanges don't exist lol). So when he went to Japan he had an eye-opening experience that made him decide he no longer wanted to make anymore TF2 content, he had that moment in February of 2015 the latest.

So he decided to fake his death
>A
>FUCKING
>MONTH
after Kitty0706 died from fucking cancer?????? You're defending this trash?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963369
He already said he was thinking of taking the channel down when he was in Japan early 2015, not necessarily February. Still fucked up and I’ve never defended this though. Also
>because Youtube determines what donation "must be donated to you"
I don’t think they did I think he just labeled it that because he was dumb and didn’t know about exchanges. Which is another reason I don’t think he was trying to scam anyone with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963369
holy shit that's vile

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963693
The fact that you're still in this tab like hours later after getting mocked out of it is almost as strange as you still going on about donations when he literally looked at someone elses death and thought "huh I could make money doing that"
Seriously is there fucking brainparasites in your towns water or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963822
theyre a sociopath just like their oshi and dont understand why normal human beings think he's a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963822
Anon everyone who isn’t a newfag already knew about that, I’m not here to defend him or preach about how I feel about the situation I’m just clearing up that one misinformation. Why are you so hung up on that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963915 (Me)
Oh I just realized you’re one of the dumbasses who thinks he was scamming anyone with the stupid support button

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963915
So then fucking shit on him instead of playing devils advocate for a guy who, as we've just fucking confirmed, looks at a dead body and can only think of money. What the fuck dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
You know I thought he sounded familiar and doing reps just now, I found out why. This guy used to be on my highlander old community based Team Fortress 2 competitive league team back when I was in highschool. Didnt think I'd hear about him ever again, let alone on /vt/ of all places.
Fucking strange world we live in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964074
The support button could have been added as early as December the previous year when it was added. There aren’t any other saved pages on the archive any earlier than February. I don’t know how you can look at all that I’ve pointed about how it would have to be the worst fucking scam attempt I’ve ever seen and still be convinced that was what he was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74956572
while also harassing a woman who actually attempted suicide due to workplace harassment.
These girls are horrific.
>>74957282
If he didn't want money he would have closed it, moron. Like how Doki didn't want donations so she instead told people to donate to charity while giving direct links to do so.
>>74952211
He isn't pro anything selen other than grifting off of the assets she gave him. He played TF2 on stream and did exactly the same shit he did before joining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964430
>If he didn't want money he would have closed it, moron
He did close it. It is 100% in the realm of possibility he just left it up for a while because he forgot about it since they don’t notify you of any payments and he was busy fucking around in Japan. At worst he could’ve been like “guess I’ll just take this money anyway” which would still be messed up but he never asked or alluded to needing money so it still wouldn’t be some elaborate scam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
How do people find these obscure ass channels that used to belong to now big name vtubers?
Even in the already niche community his channel was based on barely anyone even talked about him, he was just another 20k sub novelty youtuber for a dead game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964251
So you can't say anything bad about him when confronted with the idea he sees death as but a market for his own gain.

I am so, so sorry for your parents. May god find you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964659
Are you baiting? I don’t believe at all that he was trying to scam people.

[Anonymous No.]

After reading through all this and learning about the man, all I can say is I'm jealous and he's based. Negative or not, his PL is infamous. And if you believe he scammed his TF2 fans for money, and now he's in Niji he's earning thousands of dollars as an anime guy? What a life and what a gig. Money and leagues of women fawning over you for the barest minimum of work? He's hit the jackpot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964659
There's plenty of scummy people out there but the dude was just a retarded kid who thought faking his death would be a cool edgy way to kill his small channel. The retard obviously wasnt takin in donations either.

Theres plenty of vtubers here who have done much worse shit than that, yet /vt/ conveniently ignores what theyve done.

[Anonymous No.]

why dont you go scam DEEZ NUTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964920
>The retard obviously wasnt takin in donations either.
Except he was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
He did not open donations, idk why you are lying about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74964920
>Theres plenty of vtubers here who have done much worse shit than that
>literal whataboutism

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965123
Sister. We were there. There's evidence on the wayback machine that it was open.
You can't just rewrite history because you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
Jesus Christ, What??

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965073
Not that anon, but from what I’ve read hardly anyone used the fan funding feature because you both had to have a google wallet. I’m beating a dead horse but given he had the yen symbol in the description he probably didn’t even care about receiving money much since none of his fans were Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

How many newfags are on this board now if they’re surprised by his backstory that was spammed /here/ 2 years ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947786
The big thing is, while what he did is scummy as fuck, he hasn't done anything since.
One psychotic "You should know better" stunt is more 'decent' than those who are still, to this day, doing the same pedo and sexual abusive stuff they have for years.
Because as awful and unforgivable shit as it is, he isn't trying to repeat it right now. Which makes him more decent than ones who have no regrets for the shit they do like luka's constant abuse and vox's pedo grooming.

That said he's only (slightly) better than luca and vox IMO. He's well in the shitpile of nijiEN's garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965318
I watched False. You people are funny and are better than reality TV

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965411
The state of this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965353
Why does no one have anything on Shu Yamino, and why is he so popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965318
There's probably thousands of people on this board on any given day, and I imagine most never gave a shit about nijimales even remotely until it gave us better ammo to shit on them.
The revelation he thought about pulling this shit immediately after another TF2uber died is... quite the new and disgusting one though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
What if when he decides to graduate he just fakes his death again and moves out of Japan to another country

[Anonymous No.]

>>74965573
in /vt/? I'd be surprised. Maybe a few thousand or few hundred at most. Not that we'd know anymore with IPs masked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74966080
he would never because he loves his fans too much!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
he's /ourguy/

[Anonymous No.]

>>74966154
This unironically. The guy is based, retards are only trying to cancel him because he’s NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>74966917
He wanted more of male audience and be a brotuber but it sucks to do that in niji though

[Anonymous No.]

>>74950318
nta but
>activate donation button
>"guys I'm so sad, did I tell you guys I'm really sad? I'm so sad" >>74946900
>"oh yeah btw I might die"
>"did you guys remember I said I might die, well yeah yeah It's over, I don't have a chance, see you guys in heaven"
>remove donation button
did you really need yen in order to donate to him during those times? wouldn't Youtube accept whatever money you gave it and convert it to yen in his end? If you give me a link proving it you're the one defending him, you do the work then I will believe you, you should also make a timeline with more proof so you don't have to explain this all again if it is ever brought back to the catalog
also >>74956672

[Anonymous No.]

>>74967367
I’m not that anon saying he was talking about being sad, I’ve never seen anything like that.
The proof that he had the yen symbol in the description of his donation box is https://web.archive.org/web/20150226152114/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3PDb_Ty9XO49sELeJ_XIQ the earliest archived page of his channel when fan funding could’ve been added (it was added to Youtube in December 2014). It’s not that you could actually only send him yen (probably) it’s that it seems like HE only wanted yen, because you could either have a default generic description (just look up videos on fan funding) or you could have a custom one, and he edited it to just have the yen symbol. My theory is he just set it up before he left Japan, forgot about it, and that it was never related to him faking his death
Also him being in trouble with his family he was staying with and being homeless at a certain point is 100% true

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
>Leaves donation open
completely made up his old fans literally said nothing about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>74963369
Never trust aussies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74967760
>The proof that he had the yen symbol in the description of his donation box
That's not what anon asked.
>did you really need yen in order to donate to him during those times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968325
I never said the latter one though, you misunderstood what I’ve been saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968407
So then he had donations open that anyone could donate to, and your argument was... nobody could donate to him? >>74946484

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
who was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968461
“Labeled in yen”
What I’m saying is he was asking for donations only in a certain currency that none of his fans had. Read nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>74944499
I call it “oh fuck I have no other marketable skills besides playing video games on camera oh god I don’t want to work at McDonalds”

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968546
And this prevents his fans from donating in USD or any other currency how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946484
So it’s okay to run scams as long as you suck at it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968626
For one they might see that and go “oh maybe I shouldn’t donate since I’m not Japanese”. And I’m not saying they weren’t literally able to, I’m saying what other reason would he put that there if he wasn’t saying he only wanted donations in yen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968711
The fact that “he sucked at it” tells me that he wasn’t actually trying to scam anyone at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74967760
>I’m not that anon saying he was talking about being sad, I’ve never seen anything like that.
I was just bringing it up because that and the claims of him saying videogames ruined his life sounds like him doomposting if he was dumb enough he might have had a gambling addiction by opening TF2 cases, Kitty dying not long ago and him announcing his illnes after doesn't help
how can you backup the homeless claims tho? anything that doesn't give you a vacation? or did he said it as Sonny? but once again you can't blame people here for not believing someone who faked his death
>>74968744
answer the qustion, were people able to donate in whatever currency they wanted or not, which he could later cash out in yen? yes or no? google it, there must be google docs explaining it somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968744
>For one they might see that and go “oh maybe I shouldn’t donate since I’m not Japanese”.
That doesn't make any sense but okay.
>And I’m not saying they weren’t literally able to, I’m saying what other reason would he put that there if he wasn’t saying he only wanted donations in yen.
And he would get the donations in yen? If I had donated to him with USD, it would be converted to yen. That's how international purchases and donations work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968852
>anything that doesn't give you a vacation? or did he said it as Sonny
Both
>were people able to donate in whatever currency they wanted or not
I already answer that
>which he could later cash out in yen
He couldn’t because google watch wasn’t available in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968744
>sister actually thought for the past several weeks that you had to have yen to donate in yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968744
>For one they might see that and go “oh maybe I shouldn’t donate since I’m not Japanese”.
What the FUCK is this logic?
Seriously, explain your thought process here. I can't imagine a functioning human even coming up with that sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968506
Just look up tf2 suicide fake

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968861
>If I had donated to him with USD, it would be converted to yen. That's how international purchases and donations work.
Yes, under most circumstances, but he probably didn’t think that since he was only asking for donations in yen, because why else would it be in the description. That’s my whole point. But google watch wasn’t available in Japan at the time so I don’t even think the transaction would work. I think he just set it up as a stupid teenager

[Anonymous No.]

>>74968938
So you believe the only possible way for you to get money from Youtube in 2014 would be a "google watch"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969135
If you look it up, that’s what it says anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969135
>>74969182
Wait, I meant google wallet it’s fucking hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969182
I don't see anything about a "Google Watch" being needed to receive donations, but I did find an article about a Google Wallet.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2014/09/05/youtube-now-lets-you-donate-to-your-favorite-channels-with-fan-funding/?sh=5a18f0fadb10
And I quote
>Right now the only way to give to the channel owner is with a Google Wallet account.
>to give
>g i v e
There is ZERO mention of you needing to have one to receive the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969299
Do more research, you had to have a google wallet because that was the only way you could check your donations

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969299
In fact, here's another one that says it FUCKING OPENED IN JAPAN.
https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/3/6100771/youtube-fan-funding-content-creators

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969299
>>74969378
AIIIIEEEEEEEEE TASUKETE TF2MAAAAAAAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969378
Google watch wasn’t, which was the only way you could actually receive the money. He probably had his own Australian account, which he could never use for things in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969299
>>74969378
>anon actually did more with 2 minutes of research than a sister spent a month doing

[Anonymous No.]

im glad he got in

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969503
Wrong actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969467
So then if he didn't have a Japanese account, of which he couldn't get any currency transferred to yen, why would it not instead display Aussiebux?

C'mon sister, you can do better than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969299
>>74969378
Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969576
Because that was the description he edited himself… Read, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969615
But you said he "probably" had his own aussie account. Which is it, sister? Also, you keep making that watch typo, maybe you could try posting from your computer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969576
Stop! Stop! She's already dead!

[Anonymous No.]

>fan funding opened in japan
>b-but he didn't have a japanese wallet

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969655
The yen description was what he edited himself because he probablyvthought he could use the money in Japan and he would need yen. The complete lack of reading comprehension is melting mg brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969739
I don’t understand Google’s retardation at the time, but yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969752
And when did he say this? Because your claims is that the service only accepted Yen as donations as previously mentioned. Are you saying the Yen symbol there is just him asking for Yen, and not the required currency needed to process a donation in the first place?

Also why did you lie about him not having a Japanese Google Wallet, if the original assumption that the Yen symbol in that donation button was the required donatable currency in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969943
>Are you saying the Yen symbol there is just him asking for Yen, and not the required currency needed to process a donation in the first place?
Yes… This entire time. Jesus.
>Also why did you lie about him not having a Japanese Google Wallet, if the original assumption that the Yen symbol in that donation button was the required donatable currency in the first place?
I didn’t lie, you can look it up, it literally wasn’t available to Japan then. I’m under the assumption that he just THOUGHT it would work because he was a dumb teenager who never dealt with finances much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74969378
>>74969467
>>74969615
>sister gets called out for lying/not doing proper research
>tries to deflect using another anon's mixing up google watch and google wallet
>calls other anons retard to save face
calm down, you can still make it, quick, do a timeloop or deflect to something else!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74966127
Ita the old cycle. Shit comes from /vt/, then gets picked by reddit, then gets picked by dramafags, then gets picked by twitter, who then starts posting on /vt/ and so forth.
5 of February was the 2016 election of this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970079
>Yes… This entire time.
So then you admit that at ANY POINT, ANYONE could have donated in ANY CURRENCY, during the entire span of him having his donations up, correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970113
I posted about it earlier in the thread buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970135
I already said yes to this. My entire point was that he only wanted yen thus he edited his description with just the yen symbol. Which leads me to believe he wasn’t that desperate to scam people

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970079
Literally everyone understood it as you saying he could only take donations in yen. Which was also stupid as exchanges exist. Even dumber since back then the yen was worth more than a dollar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970234
>Literally everyone understood it as you saying he could only take donations in yen
I’m sorry /vt/ is retarded I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970204
>I already said yes to this.
So then what was stopping people from not giving him money in any currency, AKA scamming people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970283
No, just you being an ESL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970079
>h-he put a yen symbol in his donation box so obviously people wouldn't donate yen!
Nigga I see dimes in the penny jar all the time. You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74946672
yeah it was looking very familiar with the archives links. It might even be himself posting here

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970315
Nothing, I’m just saying since he was only asking for yen specifically (why else would he put the yen symbol in his description) he wasn’t that desperate for money. Maybe it wasn’t a psychical restriction but the sentiment was there
Is this concept really that complicated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970368 (me)
Sorry let me correct myself since I'm actively debuffed from this retarded sister.
>so people wouldn't donate things other than yen
Also I guess dollars would work better than the dime example but the point still stands people will donate if you give them an avenue, and the idea of a yen restriction makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970399
So you're saying that, at the end of the day, Sonny had opened donations that could accept any currency (or probably only one of those 4 currencies, but that's semantics neither of us know about), and you have purely been making the argument of
>because he had a yen symbol in the description
>nobody would ever actually not donate yen
>thus nobody donated
correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970454
Read >>74970399
And this is also adding on to the fact that he never even asked for money in his videos, which if he was scamming people, he would do

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970399
Youtube had to ban ARS because people were using it for cheaper donations. Why do you believe nobody would've done the same then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970538
>correct?
Nope
I am saying since he only WANTED yen that he wasn’t that desperate for money

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970556
I did read it, and it only further confirms you're completely braindead. He had donation avenues open: how many top-earners do you see saying "prease donateru"? None, because saying it doesn't matter, it's the potential to donate that matters. If anything people begging for donations make less. And on top of that you're reading a single character symbol as a fucking essay about him totally not asking for donations despite them being open.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970620
But you already agreed that he could take money from any country. Him saying
>I just want yen
means nothing. Which is also something he never said. And on top of that, in 2014 105 yen was 1 USD where I imagine the primary TF2 userbase is.
If anything, he'd want that because the conversion fee would still leave him out on top. Him just putting a yen symbol is him being a weeb and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970667
>If anything people begging for donations make less
This is completely false, if you say you’re sick and that you need money for bills, you’re going to get money flooding in. It’s scam 101. If you don’t even promote your donation box hardly anyone will have the insensitive
>And on top of that you're reading a single character symbol as a fucking essay about him totally not asking for donations despite them being open.
It’s just an educated guess since I don’t know why else he would put that there

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970620
>wasn't desperate for money
>had it open during his fake death plans
Seems like a scam to me then!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970821
A scam is when you have a donation box you had up since the feature was added to Youtube and that you never directly promoted, sure!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938550
Wait, are you saying he is no other than THE Johnny Fox from Gamer Gate???

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970794
If you're going to nitpick then let's go.
> If you don’t even promote your donation box hardly anyone will have the insensitive
Whatever the fuck this means i'm going to assume you're saying
>If you don’t even promote your donation box hardly anyone will donate
but it's on the front page of his channel which is an advertisement by default. GG.
>educated guess
Educated guess tends to have a thought process that can be backed up behind it. The actual educated guess here is me saying
>sonny lives in Japan
>he's a weeb
>puts a yen symbol down
because if he only wanted yen donations, he'd open up a Paypay account or whatever the JPN only transfer thing was at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

why are you guys arguing about some shit that happened 9 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971017
Because a stupid sister opened her mouth and got caught lying on basically every level, and it's fun to beat up women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74970945
>but it's on the front page of his channel which is an advertisement by default. GG.
If you are scamming someone, you’re going to specifically ask for money and directly refer to the donation box. He didn’t even have anything substantial in description. It is by definition not a scam. And this is something he had up months before he ever announced his “illness”. Not to mention how he likely couldn’t even use this supposed money since google wallet wasn’t even available in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

it's really funny imagining her slamming the keys on her phone into dust with these sad replies tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971056
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971124
Why'd you ignore the part where I explained "if he wanted JPY only why not use a JPY only service"?
> since google wallet wasn’t even available in Japan
Objectively false as seen in >>74969378

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971131
it's funnier imagining it's actually him

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971195
I’ll concede on that one part
>Objectively false as seen in
Anon, look up, “since when has GOOGLE WALLET been in Japan”

[Anonymous No.]

Two different arguments at play here, anons are arguing that Sonny is a bad person citing him faking his death whilst having donations open, knowing accepting money under that pretense. Being inspired to take this path because of the real death of a peer. The counterargument is that Sonny is not a bad person because no one was really scammed due to extenuating circumstances revolving around the logistics of his donation mechanism and that it wasn't intentionally thought out as a scam. I honestly don't think money was his primary motivator but it would be a "it's nice to skim some extra cash on the way out". Did he ever attempt to return the money he received? That's probably the defining factor on whether he is a malicious soul or just a dumb kid, which is the central argument here right? If he made no attempt to return the money after the fact, that kind of says it all about whether he's a scammer or just a dumb lad right?

[Anonymous No.]

>HE DINDU N-NUFFIN!
>BUT 2 YEARS AGO MUH N-NEWFAG!!
yeah. spam and hit that bump limit faster Nijisissy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971281
There is no way he could’ve returned the money if he wanted to because if anyone donated it didn’t tell you who donated, it was all anonymous

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971258
The fan funding service, which can only transfer money through the google wallet service, opened in 2014 according to that article. Thus, Google Wallet was available in all four countries in that phase.
Also since you agreed that he should have used a JPY only service you're agreeing he didn't only want JPY by instead choosing to use a service where multiple different currencies were accepted. Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971281
nah, he's scum regardless because he faked his death. The money is another addendum

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971286
there's also the
>HE WAS JUST A DUMB KID

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971403
>At I/O 2022, Google said Wallet was “coming soon” to Japan. It was one of the rollout exceptions alongside India sticking with GPay, and the US and Singapore getting Wallet and keeping GPay. A little over 10 months later, Google Wallet is ready for Japan
First result

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971281
I think the scamming money part is just a bonus to him deciding to fake his death right after the biggest incident in the TF2 community, kittys death, happened. It's like diarrhea frosting on the shit cake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74947786

That's because he's not an idiot. He HAS to stay down, not say anything and just collect a paycheck because in the second dramatubers look at his direction he's completely fucked.

So >>74965353 but without the "he's now a decent person", just self-aware enough that he has zero chances as the main character in a controversy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971498
So lets ignore >>74969299 and >>74969378 explicitly mentioning this.
Can you walk me through what this says, right on the little history tab?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wallet
Because what I see is
>G O O G L E
>W A L L E T
>( 2 0 1 1 )

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971376
>it was all
No it wasn't. You could pin your comment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971615
Do you not know what “available in Japan” means? I guess you’ve just given up and you’re just arguing for the sake of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971615
SHE'S ALREADY DEAAAAAAAAAAAAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971672
NTA but the articles literally say it was available in 2014. The wallet you're talking about is a reboot, apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971672
>forbes 2014 article: Right now the only way to give to the channel owner is with a Google Wallet account.
>verge 2014 article: New function currently only available in Australia, Japan, Mexico, and the United States
>google wallet wiki page: Google Wallet 2011, Android Pay in 2015, Combined into Google Pay in 2018, renamed Google Wallet in 2022
GG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971756 (me)
Oh it was merged through 3 services, classic Google.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971816
wait it's not google pay anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971816
Alright, I did my research wrong, still don’t think he was trying to scam anyone for the other reasons I’ve stated
Are you gonna cum now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971376
Did he make an attempt? Just a broad "hey I'm sorry about what happened, if you donated money and want it back, please let me know and we can try work it out" tweet would've been enough. Intent is important here in grasping someone's character. Dude faked his death inspired by the actual death of a peer and apparently that's an accepted fact. So the onus is on him to right his wrongs if he's not a malicious person. The "ignoring past history and never taking responsibility for previous bad actions" is the default content creator move so I won't pretend I'm shocked if he just moved on as if nothing happened. But it would still make him a trash person and a scammer by definition because it passes from the realm of honest/careless mistake into the realm of "willingly creating a false pretense that leads to potential financial benefit with no intent to provide restitution after being exposed".

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>>74971882
The other reasons you've stated that've all been debunked?
>he only wanted yen
He could accept it
>he couldn't accept it (others reading of your ESLisms, not your fault but also your fault)
Any currency is accepted.
>google wallet didnt exist in japan in 2014
Except it did as proven by articles you ran from reading
>he didn't advertise it
It was on the home page of his channel for at least half a year if not significantly longer. December 2014/February 2015's void all the way to November 2015.

What reasons for him not trying to scam anyone is left? Your blind personal belief in him? And don't worry, I'm almost there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971934
do you really think someone that was piggybacking on someone's else death to fake his own had enough of a character to refund the donations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971934
>Did he make an attempt?
an attempt was made... lol
Jokes aside no he didn't. I imagine the sisters next line will be "you can't prove anyone made donations to him so there's nothing to refund!" despite the fact that its practically guaranteed that someone would donate to their favorite "dying" creator.

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>>74972006
I don’t know, maybe the fact that for something to be a scam you have to explicitly trick people into believing you need money for a certain thing and directly lead them to the place where they can donate. Like all Patreon/Kickstart/etc scams.
And you’re always ignoring how he had this up since around the time it was launched, MONTHS before he ever even alluded to having an “illness”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
>scammed the Troon Fortress 2 community
Holy based, seethe harder tranny.

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>>74972166
>maybe the fact that for something to be a scam you have to explicitly trick people into believing you need money for a certain thing
Is snake oil not a scam then?
>And you’re always ignoring how he had this up since around the time it was launched, MONTHS before he ever even alluded to having an “illness”.
Then why did he not take it down after his "illness" and completely stem all arguments like this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74971934
In all seriousness he probably never had it in his mind that anyone donated during that time specifically because it was never his intent to scam people. Not to mention the logistics nightmare of trying to find whoever donated at that exact time and giving back the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74972260
>Then why did he not take it down after his "illness" and completely stem all arguments like this one?
He did take it down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74972401
But he did not? The capture at November 2nd 2015 shows it as still up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74972501
>>74945572
He removed it at some point in the span of a few months… Probably because he only then remembered it.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys are just jealous of sonny

[Anonymous No.]

>>74972625
And pray tell, when did he first announce his illness?
I shall answer for you: June 30th, 2015. Do you know how many days, weeks, or months there are between June 30th, or let us say July, and November 2nd?

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>>74972865
You said he never removed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74972900
Ah, grasping at semantics now are we? Yes, if the assumption was that he "never took it down ever" was put across that is my bad: I meant instead to say it was still up by November 2nd 2015 the earliest, and was gone by May 2016 the latest.

Now, what other arguments are left? I asked you in >>74972006 so explain to me all your points before the thread ends, so I can crush every last one like I and others have done prior.

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>>74973075
Kek, that’s not “semantics” it’s literally what you said. If you actually think he was trying to scam anyone because he had a feature on his page that everyone added around the time he did, that was up for months before he ever started the illness thing, and that he never formally addressed nor did he ever imply he needed money, which he also removed at some point, then be my guest I guess. But the fact is there is no proof that this was his intention and there is no proof that he scammed anyone, and there’s more pointing to the opposite, and you’re seething over it. Or maybe you’re just bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>74938078
Based samefagging Holobrony GODS allowing Niji pastlife threads to stay up for hours while mentioning the fact that Ironmouse has a kid gets you banned in minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74973327
kek she has a WHAT?

also it's gonna be spicy when twitter gets a hold of this story with Brisko

[Anonymous No.]

>>74940884
what the fuck...

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>>74973321
And I clarified the misunderstanding, but since you wish to continue I will lay out the timeline as clearly as possible. From December 2014/February 2015, the page was open according to >>74952127, and also according to the webarchive posts we can find proof of the November 2nd 2015 donation page existing, and sometime before May 2016 for its end at the latest. As for proof on when the videos started, there's multiple resources such as a Steam group or >Reddit threads being made saying "on June 30th 2015, he became terminally ill". Thusly, from February 2015 being the latest start to November 2 2015 being the earliest end, we have a span of 9 months of the donation being up, 4 of which since after his terminal illness began, possibly another 6 months maximum to the May 2016 date.

And to give the final nail in the coffin, I will address the argument of "but you cannot prove he ever recieved any donations!" with not facts, but a simple line of reasoning due to a complete lack of evidence for or against either claim, as comments were the only way to publicly show your donation back then and his have been shut off for likely a decade now. A certain member of the TF2 community by the name of Kitty had met a sad end merely half a year prior to Sonny's first admission of his faked illness, and the outpour of support said community member had received was a veritable flood. Multiple creators made videos showing their donations to charity in Kitty0706's name, tributes besides monetary were made, and even just a few years ago in 2020 a donation drive and recreation of his most famous work was made in his name. Even 5 years after his passing, he had made over 2,000 dollars in charity. Now I ask you, even though Sonny was never as beloved, with his illness happening mere months after... would you not believe that he too had received at least a single dollar over the course of those 9 months? Even a crumb? I believe it to be likely, and that is all one can do.

But now I end this post not with a tl;dr, but with a simple message to (you). I shall take my bow and bid you adieu. And always remember sister:

Sonny will NEVER fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74943148
I heard he faked his death, never heard the full story like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974115
kinda long but honestly kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974115
Cool story bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974115
>spoiler
Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974115
Damn, killing a sister with a poem is something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974115
Anon I know the entire timeline. Why do you continue to ignore how he had this donation box up since months before his illness? Why is it so hard to assume he just added the feature in December or February at the latest when it was added, left it because he was too busy fucking around in Japan to think about anyone donating, and then removed it when he realized? How can you say something was a scam when money for his illness was never even postured by him as being needed? Your argument against the undeniable fact that there is no proof to any of your narratives is retarded by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974289
Calling my cringe """writing""" a poem is even more cringe than it but thanks. I just couldn't think of a better way to end the post since the sister has literally nothing more to say in Sonny's defense beyond things without any evidence on either side.

[Anonymous No.]

Definitely saving this thread just for >>74972006 and >>74974115 next time one of these show up
Poor sister got assblasted more than her daddys cock ever did kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>74973327
4chan became nyfco once it got taken down. It's all about past life discussions instead of the actual vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974729
While it does suck that these sisters are bringing all this roommate discussion into the board recently, especially with fuwamoco... seeing it blow up in their face with a nijihomo because nerds who played TF2 exist here is cathartic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974839
You came from reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974885
I played The Orange Box, not tf2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974839
Bad when it happens to my oshi
Good when it happens to others
That's just double standards.
It is more reasonable to only have one standard and ban all PL discussion which is already the current official vt policy >>1

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974986
Sorry you lost the argument sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74975074
Not your boogeyman. This was my first post >>74974729

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974254
>jaknigger
if it wasnt already you faggots are tourists

[Anonymous No.]

Stop being jealous of him just because he's living the dream. You should aspire to be like him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974839
Go back to your doxxsite tranny. Oh wait, it got taken down already kek
No wonder why /vt/ is in the gutter

[Anonymous No.]

>>74975333
IMG_ too.
She simply couldn't handle the chad Friend cock.

[Anonymous No.]

He wasn't a teenager when he faked his death. He was an adult already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74974115
jesas
i almost feel bad for the sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>74975872
19 is a teenager

[Anonymous No.]

>>74976107
18 if you're aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically, anyone who is actually a fan would know he didn't get money from YouTube donations because he has talked about this period in his life before. There's no point trying to change non-fan's minds because they already think he's either bad for faking his death or bad for scamming and stealing money from fans. Instead of hyperfocusing on that, why not focus on the fact that he got over $30k for his birthday (this includes his streamlabs which most of fans donate on instead of superchats) and yet he is the laziest vtuber in their branch. Now THAT'S criminal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74972636
This one danced for him

[Anonymous No.]

>sister spamming reports on everything she doesnt like
KEK
wonder if she'll get banned for posting the doxxes

[Anonymous No.]

>>74973496
Weirdly, this shit never sticks to him. Big named YouTubers have talked about him, drama tweeters have too, and it never gets traction. Probably because he's yab free now and so it all boils down to: that was in the past, he said sorry, he's better and has moved on. If you want them to latch onto him, then there needs to be a current yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74976652
poor sister...

[Anonymous No.]

>>74976814
Sonny raped me in the summer of 2015

[Anonymous No.]

>PL thread hitting bump limit
>Call to raids to
Great mods we got here.