Nijisanji in the west

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Is the state of Nijisanji reputation unrepairable in the west at this point? How many more blunders can one company make?

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Q4 is the final verdict. Anything else until then is a sideshow.

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They will never get western goodwill back if they don't publicly apologize and then rectify and address all the things people shitpost on them for. And then follow it up by providing high quality content.
Otherwise they will always be a laughingstock.

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it is not recoverable with the current situation in place. a full tear down and rebuild is required.

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>>74799281
cut loses and the rotting arm
dissolve EN and focus on main branch

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>>74799281
Unrepairable. Literal tax fraud company.

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>>74799736
When do Financials release?

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>>74799281
>How many more blunders can one company make?
They won't stop until they succeed in killing someone

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>>74801172
>dissolve EN
I know anons want it to happen, but that will be the actual final nail in the coffin in the long term for Niji as a whole because it proves Anycolor fails to do what every company wants to succeed - an international branch

An international branch symbolizes the company's growth. No one wants to invest in a company catering to one country which is their own. And there are very rare cases of a company abandoning a Western market

If Riku decides to kill of EN, not only will he destroy any last bridges with EN sisters (and any sisters who continue to stay are fans of JP anyway), but also he will destroy any good faith with the Western market in general, which is still bigger than Chinese one

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>>74801554
June 14/15 I guess

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>>74799281
Picrel tried to warn them.

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How many more threads of this do we need, why can't you make a general

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>>74801554
I believe the actual fourth quarter ends today, but it will be a bit before they're done their financials and then hold the investor call - I think it will likely be mid-June. I do not expect anything to happen - i.e. things like the branch being dissolved/merged or new graduations - before the investor call.

>>74801651
I think EN won't be dissolved, they will probably try to rebrand and create a new branch like "Anycolor International," and merge what's left of EN with their other overseas talents. EN as it's presently constituted simply can't continue, and what can't continue won't continue. I'm anticipating something like a 50%-75% revenue drop in Q4.

My expectation is they will mass graduate everyone who wants to leave as part of the rebranding. If you want to know who is going to be leaving, see who has recently reactivated their PLs.

[Anonymous No.]

yes look here.
only one guy sold out

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>>74802367
Vantablack will save EN

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>>74801651
Riku will most likely leave NijiEN as a zombie branch to maintain that illusion of growth. Very few or no new hires, downscaled events unless they're company-wide, but the branch will continue to exist for the forseeable future.

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>>74800471
^ this. I dont think the current managers, employees, etc, show any signs of being capable of saving NijiEN's reputation. Someone else might have been able to do it, but not the ones they currently have.

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>>74801933
>recently reactivated their PLs
About how many is that, numbers-wise?
Also, do you think "International" will try to rebuild KR/ID work? Is there anything left in ID to work with? Why is Hanama still there?

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>>74801933
>Rebranding
i.e. Virtua Real EN.
That’s that I have been thinking too. The name NIJISANJI EN is far too dirty now. They’d need new and proper management, though.

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>>74803276
Korea is Hololive's territory now and Anycolor is probably banned by Indo fans anyway, especially when notMika spoke up about the tax drama, so going back to Indo is them letting ID netizens bully them hard

And I will be genuinely surprised if Hana still decides to stay after she sees the accusation made by her best friend about her company

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>>74801933
Their other overseas talents are already merged with the JP branch. Any EN merger would be into the JP branch too.

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It's theoretically fixable if they admit fault in the incidents, but it seems like that's unacceptable to them.

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it doesnt really matter how many more blunders there are because they're basically at rock bottom, they're at about the same level as mikeneko where they'll keep a small number of diehard psychos but everything else is cut off.

When the Selen stuff was happening I told people companies were blacklisting them and seething sisters called me a liar. I hope it's becoming clearer every day

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>>74803276
I am not sure how many of them have reactivated their PLs at this point, I think it's almost all of them. I know I've heard Vivi, Kunai, Scarle, and Aia have all done it. I think some of the boys have too. I am not sure if any of the big troublemakers (Elira/Enna/Luca/Millie/Vox) have done it yet.

In terms of international, there's a handful of ID/KR talents still hanging on. This has a decent listing: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/all-nijisanji-members-en-jp-graduated-more-2205600/

>>74803507
I agree, but they have to do something with the EN branch to try to create the illusion that things are changing. A rebrand and throwing some other Livers in seems the most likely step to me.

>>74803648
I think admitting fault and overhauling the company would have helped them in February or even March, but it's too late for that now. A lot of those subs they lost aren't coming back. As long as Riku Tazumi is still in charge, Nijisanji is not getting fixed.

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It is not fixable since certain schizos have already created a logic loop. We know the counter for it but half the fun is seeing if they will actually drop their hubris.

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>>74803335
>Nijisanji World
>Talents from everywhere in the world
They could even sell it to the investors as "we are not closing EN down, we are scaling it up and attacking new markets"

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>>74799281
I want NijiEN to stay alive as long as possible.
You could write a thesis about how to not run a business solely citing it as examples.

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Because they are currently fucking and cucking you guys.
Go spend money on your other breedable oshi, aside from me accidentally spending 50 canadian rubles on his oshi.

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>>74804140
Not sure if Elira can reactivated her PL since she made a brilliant decision of nuking her PL years ago...

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>>74805133
WTF IS canadian rubles? Is this a vtuber reference?

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>>74803504
Niji still has a surprising number of defenders from ID on Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

The state of Nijisanji

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>>74804140
>I know I've heard Vivi, Kunai, Scarle, and Aia have all done it.
Scarle was a misunderstanding, hers was always lightly active, she just privated it for a bit when she got harassed by twitter mob over eating food in McDonalds.
Kunai and Vivi seem like most likely considering the coordinated reactivation and things I heard about Kunai. Wonder how could have they swung an early release if it's true, because by contract they'd still have quite a bit to go.
Aia is a weird one, I'd give her 50/50 chance.

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>>74805666
Money inflation is going so bad in Canada that I can it Canadian Rubles.

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Nijisanji can sink into the abyss

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>>74805730
so the worst kind of people with no money who do nothing but shit themselves on twitter all day

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>>74805632
Nuked or not she wont ever be able to live this down. Its best she stays at Niji and just keeps adding herself to every merch collab. Atleast that way she still gets a 2% cut from merch.

For Niji to salvage the EN branch Niji would have to fall so hard on its own sword by admitting they fucked up that i honestly find this impossible to ever happen. Too much pride from upper management.

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>>74800363
And they can’t do this because then they’d be forced to do it on the JP side because their top talents will complain about the foreigners getting preferential treatment

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>>74806340
I am pretty sure they do this before logging into Twigger

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>>74801651
Niji is too big to fail in Japan like it or not sadly

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>>74806476
Too big or not.
Elira is doing gods work by getting laid by the CEO of AnyColor but white.
This post is relevant >>74805133

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>>74802367
Probably because he is considered one of the better nijimales and I don't think he has ever said anything stupid or is connected with the clique

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>>74806042
>she got harassed by twitter mob over eating food in McDonalds.
The fuck, at this point she is probably one of the better Niji girls, maybe even the only good one left

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>>74800363
The bigger problem is that they will never be able to recruit any good talents going forward. Nijis dirty laundry is public knowledge now, bullying, preferential treatment, lack of support, shit merch cuts, predatory contracts and on top of that you’d be the butt of the joke in the vtuber space. Look at TTT and how poorly they were handled and performing.

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>>74806744
Scarle's cool, but I still believe in Da Wose

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>>74805730
The Niji defenders in ID are the ones that got ousted by Reine and hitsquad.

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>>74806745
Claude is in with the clique, Vivi is taking lessons from Rosemi, Scarle and keeping distance. Kurenai is fucking trapped. Jesus couldn't even save her with how badly her career went backwards.

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>>74807871
Reine family rules bout 85 percent of Jakarta don't they know this

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>>74799281
Not even close. Time heals eveything. They are already recovering in some areas. For example, they do make more money in SC's than HoloEN even now.

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If NijiEN shits out a wave this year I expect them to get the lowest debut CCVs ever for a big corpo

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>>74808131
im excited for the next wave
can`t wait to see what drama it will spawn

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>>74800363
the moment Riku went on camera and basically KNEELED to the Selen drama and had to address it while speaking English was the point of no return, you'll never see any Japanese CEO do this to their EN branch of whatever operations cause they all hate baka gaijin, at least from the Jap related shit I keep up with (bandai namco, Konami, various other Japanese game companies)

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>>74808033
they dont even make more than holostarsen you delulu femcel

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>>74808033
You do know that the reason rrats worked because they had 30% truth in them. We just positioned them as the number 1 conclusions out of all probable choices.
You need some kind of truth stop trying to make up shit sister it's embarrassing.

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>>74806579
The biggest and only controversy Vanta was even tangentially involved in was the Hex yab, and even that was 100% on Hex.
Anyway, I can't help but wonder what sort of punishment awaits Vanta for having better ticket sales than Vox.

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>>74806435
Which is why the true solution involves the entire company being restructured and ALL their processes and everything reworked.
NijiEN's incompetence does not exist in a vacuum, after all, they are established by NijiJP high management, the well was poisoned from the start.
The fact also stands that NijiJP once had their core group of livers INCLUDING motherfucking Tsukino Mito openly stand up to the management, which led to management changing shit to appease them.

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>>74808033
>For example, they do make more money in SC's than HoloEN even now.

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>>74808492
probably less sponsors

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>>74799281
I hope this company rots but speaking honestly, and purely from the perspective of big business collabs and shit... I doubt much will change on that front. They lost that collab with that one PC company, but most industries just want a spokesperson for their merch and if Niji is good at anything it's whoring out their talent to be a corporate mouthpiece. They've already collabed with Sanrio, Good Smile didn't cancel the Nendoroids, none of the big companies rescinded game perms -- the majority of the corporate world just does not care about interpersonal drama as long as it's not human trafficking or pedoshit. The die-hard sisters are too retarded to go watch anything else, and as long as they have that audience of schizoid gachis, they still have an audience to preach commerce to -- so those collabs will keep coming. Even if people complain, unless you have an actual connection with those PR departments, your comments are mostly delivered to :null. Nijisanji has absolutely trashed their reputation and made fools of themselves, but I honestly doubt the EN branch will go anywhere. The girls will -- should, god I hope -- graduate, but no one watches Nijisanji EN to watch women. The guys will remain, because they aren't affected by this by and large, and being affiliated with the company of faggots gets them a fujo buff that being indie would never give (because women don't really watch twitch, either.) In a year this will be old news. People have clearly made their decisions -- people with dignity and taste watch anything else, and sisters watch their homoslop. Unless they all pull a Mysta and expressly tell their fujos to fuck off and die, EN will continue on as a moderately successful zombie company from just doing the bare minimum. Fucked up, frankly, but what could you expect from a company that hired a literal troon and a literal faggot? As long as they got the "progressive" buff they can't lose because of the usual reasons. And the faggot being racist doesn't matter to them, because these people think racism doesn't matter if it's against white people.

TL;DR everyone that matters reviles them but the business world won't care, fujos don't care, and woke libtards think the company is progressive so they won't drop it either. And there's enough of those retards to keep this company afloat for months if not years.

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>>74808010
Is it really that big of Reine's background? I only know she is in a family which has a television station business shit like that? Can someone tell more about this?

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>>74810023
>business world won't care
the investor reaction to Q3 and the retreat of sponsors says otherwise. this business is all about PR and there is only ever bad PR with Niji EN
>fujos don't care
True. This is Niji EN's audience today. Rabid sisters. (Male) Western fans I guess also many female Western fans left with Pomu and Selen. Those were their only female talents with any pull in the West, the only one that actually made money. The talents that have to fill their footsteps now are Rosemi and Scarle, but both of these are far smaller and Niji EN is now such a debuff that they have no way to grow. They just keep the last ones around and those fans that left genuinely wish for them to follow them so that they enjoy are more healthy environment in which they can thrive.
>and woke libtards think the company is progressive so they won't drop it either
Those people are either those fujos in which case you're absolutely right or Twittards who don't watch streams. However, Twitter is more like a hive mind that, in most parts, actually agrees that Nijisanji is evil. This may be the only point in which 4chan and Twitter mostly agree with each other.

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>>74810023
>none of the big companies rescinded game perms
I know at least one has, I'm just not drawing attention to it so they dont get drama from nijisisters

>The guys will remain, because they aren't affected by this by and large,
Vox is pulling worse numbers than the less popular members of phase connect, his career is OVER, even chinese nijisisters are largely making fun of him now

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>>74801933
>I'm anticipating something like a 50%-75% revenue drop in Q4.
I don't think it will come anywhere closer to that. Even with the self implosion of the branch, the YoY comparison for this quarter will have the 3Ds and concert against the absolutely nothing that was last year's (although the lack of valentine merch may offset those two things)

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>>74810481
My guess is she has relations to one of the politicians from the New Order era.
Basically, Indonesia's second president was a very successful US-backed dictator whose underlings have become political dynasties where, to this day, still have massive political and monetary power.
So yeah, good chance she's part of one of those dynasties. These are people who, I shit you not, used to kill thugs/political dissidents in broad daylight and people around just assume they deserved it and moved along. My mother once told of this story where one of her father's factory workers might have stolen money, next day he was a carcass thrown into a ditch. Nowadays they just use ridiculous defamation laws to bully people but they still have an army(literal) and thugs to do their dirty work.

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>>74811174
Thanks for your answer. I only think her family has big business and maybe just do Vtuber for fun. Never thought her family may has relation with ID politicians. Buy the way, Is it dangerous to criticize government based on your last part? but isn't nowadays ID is a democratic country, why do people have to face these kind of threat?

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>>74811828
Yes, it is dangerous to criticize the government/rich people. That's why everyone just shies away from any political/religious topics in any media.
As I said, the dictator was very successful, still beloved even. People just ignore the whole thing about his family being ludicrously rich by siphoning out money out of the nation.

Democracy means nothing when the wealth gap is huge and the laws are so vague and fucked that you can get people imprisoned for talking minor shit at you.

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>>74810023
>what could you expect from a company that hired a literal troon and a literal faggot?

boy, you sure wrote a lot of words just to say "i'm a deranged chud"

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nijisanji en can recover, they are still competitive with holo id and mogging phasegirls in views. we just need the chat restrictions to go away from some of the livers, you cant create new fans if you dont allow interactions from them. i blame the faggoons, they are always looking to harass the livers on any moments available and has caused a sense of paranoia. i hope you faggoons are happy, bullying innocent people and going against what dokibird says.

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Sisters can seethe as much as they want. Unless Riku decides that he's bored and sells his controlling share to people who give more than a thimbleful of shit, the lols will continue.

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>>74812175
So '' Don't criticize government '' become a taboo?
Mother will tell children not talk bad about government?

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>>74804140
Scarle has always had her PL twitter account public, she just privated it during the entire Doki situation and after the liking the Kurosanji comment. She only just unprivated her PL account within the last few weeks.

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>>74799281
It's not a fix that can be accelerated.
The problem is within. But they have no experience or even past attempts at restructuring. They push the responsibilities and faults on the livers and fans. Never blame the company itself. .ie they would have to stop being Nijisanji.

Nijisanji gives a bad rep to all vtubers. They need to be gone for it to truly grow in the West.

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>>74799281
The Q2 report will be the nail in the coffin for them since it will be reflecting all the shit that transpired since Selen's termination.

At that point you just know EN branch will be disolved and merged into JP branch.

And it's kinda ironic because all this issue can be rooted back mostly to a single reason: Elira's Clique. So NijiEN going under will be mainly due to the Clique thinking they were untouchables and could get away with anything.

The other reason being Anycolor as a whole being a black company and treating their talents as meat fodder.

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>>74799281
What I wanna know is what their plan was for the multiple people who nearly killed themselves. Did they think that they would just be able to cover that shit up and nobody would ask questions or go digging for details?

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>>74813994
>And it's kinda ironic because all this issue can be rooted back mostly to a single reason: Elira's Clique.
Nah, it all traces back to poor management. That's what allowed Elira's Clique to take power and caused every other problem.

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Yes, to both questions.
They'll survive but they are gonna still feel the drop for a while. It'll stop and become stagnation at best, this isn't 2020, there are plenty of competitors and they keep producing material. Even the smaller ones are rising, the coffee shop and the jews went from small corpos to potentially overtake Niji on the west.

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>>74808492
Sucking on Elira's fat futa dragon cock
>Verification not required

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>>74814121
>they think that they would just be able to cover that shit up and nobody would ask questions or go digging for details?
Yes, that's how ruthless this industry is. In 3D you have examples like Robin Williams, corpos/companies will always try to hide all issues and pretends everything is fine, until it isn't. And whenever shit hits, minimize it as much as possible.

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>>74804140
Scarle has always had her PL twitter account public . I believe she only privated her account after Selen got terminated.
Although she never mentioned how she felt about Selen getting terminated, it was pretty obvious how she felt. She had a membership stream the day Selen got terminated where she cried twice during the stream, and then cried again in another membership stream the day after Selen got fired.
The day of the blackbox stream, she was supposed to have another membership stream. However, myself and others noticed that she had a pinned message in the stream chat saying “Do not bring any of that BS in here.”. This was around the same time people noticed she hearted the Kurosanji comment.
Funnily enough, when she got harassed by nijisisters for getting Starbucks during her trip to Japan, her PL twitter account was still private. It was only until 4 weeks after she came home from her trip in Japan that she decided to make her PL account public again.
>>74806744
Ironically, but not surprising at all, she got harassed and attacked by nijisisters. Majority of whom were fans of Vox, Shu, Kyo, and Uki.
>>74807737
Yeah she is, I know for a fact both Scarle and I think also Vermillion were the only two to drop in and say hi to Sayu during her return stream which was cool, albeit they did it on their PL YouTube accounts. I absolutely despise Nijisanji in its current state, however both Rosemi and Scarle are the ones I am still willing to watch.

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>>74814121
>multiple people
who besides the dark dragon?

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>>74804140
Scarle has always had her PL twitter account public . I believe she only privated her account after Selen got terminated.
Although she never mentioned how she felt about Selen getting terminated, it was pretty obvious how she felt. She had a membership stream the day Selen got terminated where she cried twice during the stream, and then cried again in another membership stream the day after Selen got fired.
The day of the blackbox stream, she was supposed to have another membership stream. However, myself and others noticed that she had a pinned message in the stream chat saying “Do not bring any of that BS into here.”. This was around the same time people noticed she hearted the Kurosanji comment.
Funnily enough, when she got harassed by Nijisisters for getting Starbucks during her trip to Japan, her PL twitter account was still private. It was only until 4 weeks after she came home from her trip in Japan that she decided to make her PL account public again.
>>74806744
Ironically, but not surprising at all, she got harassed and attacked by nijisisters. Majority of whom were fans of Vox, Shu, Kyo, and Uki.
>>74807737
Yeah she is, I know for a fact both Scarle and Vermillion were the only two to drop in and say hi to Sayu during her return stream which was cool, albeit it was on their PL YouTube accounts. I absolutely despise Nijisanji in its current state, however both Rosemi and Scarle are the ones in Niji I am still willing to watch.

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I unironically don't want NijiEn to collapse. I want it to be better. If it gets axed, the EN vtubing community will be filled with Niji refugees and gatekeeping them will be exhausting. Still won't give my money and view to Niji though, fuck you Yacht boy.

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>>74815767
The only way for Niji EN to get better is for management to admit they fucked up in their handling of the Selen situation, and they are too prideful to make such an admission, even if you ignore any possible civil liability that could result from admitting any fault - they won't even issue a generic-ass "the situation was not handled optimally" statement.
Any "gatekeeping" of Niji refugees, whether they join other agencies or become indies, will be done by their new managers, which is part of the managers' jobs anyway.

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>>74815767
The problem fundamentally was never NijiEN, if you haven't noticed for the past 2 years they've been quitely sitting in their corner, while this board has been chimping to high heaven. The problem has been and always will be Hololive fans who will perpetually attack everything that is not Hololive. Nijisanji got the brunt of it, because they were number 2, but now you're seeing the target slowly being moved towards Phase Connect. Also have you also noticed how every small corpo - without exception - is being called a black company straight from the gate? Weird, eh?
>Aloe was bullied by Nijisisters
She was bullied by Holofans and then they started gaslighting like there's no tomorrow. There's a reason Fuwamoco smashed the panic mute button during the Holostars promo and it has nothing to do with Nijisisters.

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>>74815767
Sorry but it might already be too late unless your a fan of the males. A large of chunk of the girls viewership fucked off and are watching other streamers, never to return unless they come back as indies.
Sisters will be the most unbearable as they attack ex-Nijis and try to find some new male to fill their bfe shaped hole in their heart before eventually realizing most maletubers don't want to do that shit

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>>74816720
>The problem has been and always will be Hololive fans who will perpetually attack everything that is not Hololive

BZZT wrong

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>>74816605
Yeah, they will most likely sweep it under the rug and hope that everyone will just forget about it, which wouldn't happen lol
I don't want NijiEn to collapse but it will most likely happen. Better to brace myself for the shit storm
I meant gatekeeping the Nijisisters, not the actual livers themselves. If the livers to jump ship to another corpo or be an indie, I'd support the girls with the exception of Elira, Millie, Enna and Reimu. The guys can fuck off, I guess.

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>>74815767
>EN vtubing community
Chinese and SEA femcels will fuck off back to kpop

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>>74817413
>I'd support the girls
You won't. You didn't support them before, you won't start now.

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>>74816720
Don't use my triangle wife for your lies sister

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>>74817473
Hopefully.
>>74817489
>You won't
Partially true. I'd watch streams and drop a supa here and there but I won't be a dedicated paypig

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>>74817787
>I'd watch streams
You won't. You'll watch week 1, maybe drop a supa or two during week 1 and fuck off. In the first six months there is a small possibility you'll watch 10 or so minutes of 4 or 5 streams when they came up on your recommended list. After that Youtube will give up and start treating you like a deadsub.
This isn't the first rodeo saviorfags have had.

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>>74818031
You're trying to force some weird fantasy on me. Are you perhaps projecting? Genuine question, by the way.

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>>74817489
NTA, but supporting someone doesn't have to just be financial. Watching streams and vods, doing anything on their socials or interacting with the community are all ways of supporting them.
Personally I've never bought a single piece of merch or been a member to any vtuber, but two weeks ago joined Mints membership

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>>74818157
I've seen saviorfags save and abandon a fuckton of people over the years. (You) have X amount of hours set aside for streamers / vtubers and that amount isn't going to suddenly increase.
Either you already have a set of streamers you're comfortable with and will keep your X hours watching them, or you're someone who changes streamers every few months. In both cases it's unlikely for you to switch to a long-term support to someone you haven't supported until now.
Ergo, the saviorfags abandoning the people they save.

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>>74804140
Finana's is still inactive since 2022

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>>74818453
Brotherman, holodex exists.
>inb4 how can you understand multiple people talking at the same time
Just put up 5-6 streams at once. If you can't understand what's going on while watching only 6 streams, that's a genuine skill issue.

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>>74817413
>I'd support the girls with the exception of Elira, Millie, Enna and Reimu
Why Reimu? I know about the "attempt" tweet, and that pre-Niji Discord thing with the sex pest (and to her credit, she distanced herself from him and his circle once she found out about his buggery)
But she's had a collab with DTTO after 2/5, and has publicly supported Mint; she's the only active Niji EN to have done either. I'm not sure what she's done to warrant a lack of support.

The other three, though... you're right. May they stay in Nijisanji forever.

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>>74818980
Yeah, to be honest I sort of doubted myself when I typed in Reimu. I actually liked her the most in Ethyria. But with the "attempt" tweet and her Dokibird reference reaction in that kusoge, I don't wanna risk it.

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>>74819406
Her reaction to the Doki cameo was panic. She was worried about getting fired or otherwise punished for allowing Doki's likeness to appear on stream, so she dropped the item as fast as she could; and then picked up and quickly dropped a few other items (while making puking noises) to make it look like her reaction to Doki was part of a bit rather than existential dread.

The "attempt" tweet is a bit tougher to forgive, but not entirely unforgiveable. Without the context of the timing, it would have been an unremarkable reference to the "there was an attempt" meme; and while she may be ESL, she's definitely too fluent to not understand what the word "attempt" means in the context Doki used that word, and is also probably too fluent to be unaware why making a "there was an attempt" joke at that point of time would be viewed as distasteful.

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It's not that they can't fix their reputation in the west, "the west" simply doesn't want them anymore. The popular ones bailed out and Elira sunk her channel for the sake of being petty. Some people merely tolerate the company for their oshi and there's basically nowhere else to go for women who both like male vtubers and want an active community, but the ones actually controlling the narrative want Niji to fuck off back to Japan and don't care if it actually improves

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>>74799281
Its dead. They are circling the drain.

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>>74820944
Yup, people only care about the talent they like now. Most people despise the company.

Other then the ones that are stuck in NIJI cause they are radioactive now like Ellira etc. people are just now waiting for their OSHI to reincarnate in another company.

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>>74820709
It's circumstantial at best desu.
I'm on the fence with her. I could be convinced either way.
Either way I actually can see people going to check them out after departure, but it's really on the girls to force people to stay. I checked Sayu out because of the termination notice and fell in love almost instantly with her energy and honesty. A year later and I'm still pretty happy with my investment. She's great.

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>>74822030
their career is basically shelved for now, rotting away while people wait for them to leave
and once they leave people will be watching what they do to see if they feel they can trust them

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A few members played Shinkansen 0 after Reimu did, but I don't know if any of them viewed the supporter content

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>>74799281
they aren't even trying to repair it

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>>74822137
Yeah, I'm even willing to give Elira a chance to redeem herself if she fucking leaves first.