/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>EN vtubing takes over around 2021
>by 2024 the board is full of western drama and ENfaggotry

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
You can always go to /jp/ and seethe there like a faggot.

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>>74788460
>Blames westerners for "drama"
>The main cause for said "drama" is a Japanese Black company
What did OP mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>kensama thinks no menheras exist in glorious Nippon
>Michael Cat happened entirely independent of any filthy gaijin

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>>74788460
>twitch faggots start latching onto vtubing
>rampant doxxing, harassing, and "hybrid" streaming
Sure does make you think.

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>>74788687
That's... that's just Nijisanji.

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>>74788460
>"thing" gets popular in "place"
>wtf "things" fanbase is full of people from "place" how could this happen
yeah... a shocker...
>>74788586
retarded, pls don't be to hard on him
>>74788687
???

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>>74788757
There no "hybrid" vtubers in nijisanji

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>>74789044

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>>74789044
there's also no doxxing and harassing on twitch (besides a few exceptions, like everywhere else of course)
anon is just a bit schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
>thing
>:[
>thing, Japan
>:]

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789197
>fan
>:D
>fan, east asian female
>picrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789290
China...based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789290
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789290
Commies are right about leftover women

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788964
you're defending drama right now
like the concept of drama is what you're saying needs defending

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789132
>there's no doxxing and harassing on twitch except when there is

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789685
>doxxing and harassing happened because of twitch even though it happened before twitch and happens far more frequently with exclusively youtube-based, japanese vtubers than on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789754
You can't name a single japanese vtuber that has been doxed.

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>>74789849

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>>74789913
Why is your "proof" from 2020 if japanese vtubers get doxed ervery single day? There's not even any proof that that one was doxed and you're just parroting that because you read it here.

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>>74789849
Sayu

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>>74789978
Not on youtube and not a japanese vtuber,

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789631
i literally didn't but good for you
wrong reply or wrong thread maybe?
>>74789685
yes, just like everywhere else
i don't know how that's to hard to understand for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789959
Did you seriously just say there's no proof Mano Aloe was doxxed? Fuck off, sister.
>>74789978
Technically correct.

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>>74789631
NTA but they're clearly not, they're just "defending" the western vtuber community by telling it how it is to the classic "it's all much better in Place, Japan" weeb, that it really isn't and the only reason they think that is because they don't know shit about their language nor their community and can only speak for what has been translated to them.
Tldr both sides of their community have their dramafags and suck sometimes, they always have

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789959
>You can't name a SINGLE doxxed jp chuuba
>Why did you name a doxxed chuuba from so long ago? Name a more recent one

Textbook goalposting

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>>74788586
>>The main cause for said "drama" is a Japanese Black company
Flooding the board with SEA shitposts is something you need to take responsibility for, Nijikeks aren't your scapegoat for your own behavior even if the femcels they brought along are obnoxious in their own ways.

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>>74790007
There is no proof that she was doxed, yes. If you can't tell me her real name, physical address or phone number, then she wasn't doxed.
I bet you're the kind of retard that doesn't actually know what doxing means.

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>>74790001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqI5BE6Ua7Y
She's streaming there literally right now and yeah she is Japanese, just raised in the US

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>>74790038
You will refuse to name anyone actually recent because you got nothing. You will just keep screeching about muh goalpost while acting like you're correct.

>>74790058
She is not a japanese vtuber.

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>>74790002
stop typing like a f*male

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>>74790047
Ex-Nijifags like you seem to believe PLs don't count as doxxing, we know.

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>>74790095
If PLs are doxxing then vshojo fans are doxxers since they constantly say vshojo member X is Y from holoniji.
Are you absolutely certain you want to claim that you believe PLs are doxing?

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>>74790070
She is literally a japanese vtuber. She is fully japanese by blood.

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>>74790070
>>74790047
Then how about (You) tell us about such a "truly" doxxed western chuuba that you speak of, where "doxx" fulfills your requirements or real name, address and phone number

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>>74790157
>inb4 another goalpost gets moved

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>>74790047
Obvious bait for a ban, but yes I do have proof

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>>74790095
PL is not doxxing, that's the most retarded shit I've ever heard.
>This vtuber used to be this other vtuber?! That's heckin doxxing!
Unless they showed their irl faces in their Pl, I guess.

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>>74790164
No, you can't just ask the sisters to provide proof! It's their right to scream and yell outlandish statements to get btfo'd while never providing a shred of evidence themselves.

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>>74790157
She is not a japanese vtuber no matter how many times you bring up her ethnicity.

>>74790164
Just last week you were all piling on some kenji guy calling him a doxxer. I don't know or care about who he is or what he did but you faggots yourself said he doxxed someone. Then there's all the western drama channels that post doxx according to you.

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>>74790221
You do... know how he got that information, don't you?
The only people who could've possibly leaked his information was Nijisanji itself, considering it contained her fucking passport.

[Anonymous No.]

cool thread OP but lets not forget the drama currently is because Elira Pendora of Nijisanji EN bullied on of her coworkers into suicide and then refused to acknowledge it, apologize for it or reexamine her behaviors because of this incident. This is a happy hobby but we should not turn a blind eye when bad actors, like Elira, enter it and make it worse.

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>>74790256
And? Twitch vtubers are doxxers. There's dox on twitch. I just looked his name on the archive and there's some stuff about HIM getting doxxed. It doesn't matter if you believe he deserves it when that just adds more dox onto the dox-on-twitch pile.

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>>74790221
>>74790070
>refuse to name anybody recent
Why the fuck would it matter if it was recent if the Mano Aloe shit happened before HoloEN even existed you retarded monkey?

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>>74790123
>If PLs are doxxing then vshojo fans are doxxers since they constantly say vshojo member X is Y from holoniji.
Ex-Nijifags ARE current vshitshow fags, why are you just repeating what I said? But yes, exactly, now you are getting it.
Since you mentioned Hololive, notice how even back in the days after Coco graduated and certain vtubers were covered, clipfags used to be much more careful of how they titled their clips to respect vtuber culture. These days with the washed up Niji crowd? they literally title them with shit like "Michi (PL)" and "Mint (PL)" to get more views. Disgusting.

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>>74790298
>vtubers are doxxers
kek
i don't know what kinda chuubas (you)#re watching bro but i suggest you look for a better oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>74790306
When your claim is that japanese vtubers get doxed frequently you should be able to prove that, but you can't and can only name someone from 2020.

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>>74790306
*Show example of pre-EN era*
>Why are you showing such a recent example? That's too old, it isn't relevant now?
*Show post-EN one*
>Yes but that's after EN tool over and all the western dramafags polluted the entire community!

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>>74790382
>*Show post-EN one*
You have not managed to do this. No, Sayu is not a japanese vtuber.

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>>74788460
Remember how your kind made fun of unicorns? Now the unicorns have taken over and (you) are the dying breed, how does it feel?

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>>74790311
False. vshojo fans have been posting PLs ever since the first ex-holos joined them.

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>>74790221
The point of the conversation wasn't what I or others consider doxxing, it was providing an example that fulfills what (You) consider doxxing, since you say it happens much more frequently in western side, Retard-chama

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>>74790311
No anon, putting the blame where it belongs (Nijishojo) for the awful vtuber culture of today is exactly what they are deflecting them. That is why they want to blame ALL western vtubers, so they don't have to take the heat they so deserve directly.

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>>74790399
Assuming we go by the long-term agreed definition by people capable of common sense of "Japanese = of Japanese descent" then yes, she is, and you can't deny it. Keep coping

[Anonymous No.]

>enjoy thing on 4chan
>eventually the community succumbs to spamming the same tired drama/eric memes
>don't enjoy thing on 4chan

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>>74790458
Why would I know which western vtuber has been actually doxed?

>>74790507
>"Japanese = of Japanese descent"
Oh so EN vtuber now means literally british. You're a fucking moron and Sayu is not a japanese vtuber. Sayu is a perfect examply of doxxing in the western vtuber community. She's ALL yours.

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>>74790450
> the first ex-holos
You mean the only ex-holos who joined as an experiment.The Japanese branch failed to become a good alternative to the better career that Hololive inherently brings, and Vshithsow is a retirement community for washed up Nijis now. Sad.

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>>74790602
Why does any of that matter? That was exactly when this board suddenly allowed posting PLs.

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>>74790311
>This Nijisister doesn't want fans of the livers finding a way to support their oshis outside of the company's grubby reach.
How does the boot taste today?

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>>74790599
>Why would I know which western vtuber has been actually doxed?
NTA
interesting question, is there any other chuuba like Nyanners, who got actually doxxed? i can't think of anybody else tbhdesu

[Anonymous No.]

>Range ban SEA
>/vt/ becomes an amazing place
Jap Moot is being paid off by Reine's people to keep her shitposting and fanfic hub alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>74790627
>allowed posting PL
Didn't one of the bigger Niji fuckers' mods have an entire stream dedicated to posting Niji members' photos and calling them ugly?

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>>74790599
Weren't (You) complaining that doxxing was a western mostly issue and that it's much more common on their community? It'd be kinda embarrassing for you to have said all that only to admit now that you have no fucking idea of what you're talking about

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>>74790692
Why are you trying to deflect?

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>>74790521
it's always some benign shit too
like who cares about half this drama

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>>74790700
I see you faggots constantly claim that someone doxed someone while that does not happen on the japanese side. All you can do is keep saying aloealoealoe or try some dumbfuck argument about sayu being a japanese vtuber.

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>>74790716
>western vtubing and twitch is why everything is bad
>japanese streamers and vtubers were doing it before and since
>don't try to deflect

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>>74790779
If le evil japanese vtubers made it so that PLs are always allowed, why were they not allowed here from the start?

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>>74788460
words cannot describe how much I want to smash (You)r face into the pavement

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>>74790716
Truth is deflecting? Now tell us again how all of western vtubing is le bad and how vshojo fans bear no particular responsiblity for it despite constantly telling us in this thread they are in fact the doxxers who ruined vtubing. Whether you want to blame two Holo fanbases in particular more or less for this current state of affairs doens't change the reality of where we are right now and what the vshojo company is focused on.

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>>74790741
You're acting as if nyfco didn't ever exist. Where have vtubers such as nijiEn ones been fixed before, including their face, names, and age? At a Japanese site written in japanese. You *must* know JP love doxxing, they've done it long before vtuber era with idols. You can't seriously claim that's not a thing

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>>74790741
The Mito poster incident...

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>>74790818
>you want to blame two Holo fanbases
Those are not holo fanbases.

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>>74790682
SEA this, SEA that, go see some bitches. You cumskins are very much capable of spelling and tense errors too.

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>>74790876
yes but unlike (You), we can poo in the loo.

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>>74790826
nyfco is a SEA site according to the geniuses of this board. It also doesn't contain actual dox as far as I'm aware.

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>>74790867
>Those are not holo fanbases.
Not anymore, I agree, Hololive fans are extremely loyal and didn't create a werid split faction the way NijiEN and now NijiID has within vshojo.

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>>74790908
It doesn't contain anything anymore, thank god.

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>>74790908
Google definition of dox: "search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent."
Last I checked, shit like roommates count as dox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74790842
That's even older than 2020. Apparently this happens very frequently but no one can name another vtuber it has happened to recently.

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>>74788460
Ban western vtubing, or ban everyone but hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn thats crazy
I wonder why an english site would largely focus on western affairs.
It is truly a mystery.
If only we had dedicated boards for Japanese affairs.
Hmm

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>>74790975
That information is published by themselves.

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>>74791005
>That's even older than 2020.
Which means it started with JPs, thank you for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791010
That did exist. Then HoloEN happened.
Cut the cancer at the source, not when the symptoms start showing.

[Anonymous No.]

Letting old fans find a vtuber's new identity by informing them of a vtuber's PL is an objectively good thing and actively harms shitty black corpos like Nijisanji. Nijisanji would have been ecstatic if nobody mentioned the fact that Dokibird was Selen after they terminated her.

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>>74791034
>on western affairs
this is chinkshit
don't flatter yourself

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>>74791068
>Cut the cancer at the source,
We are, the cancer that is Nijishojo. Nice try at deflecting yet again sister.

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>>74791045
Why are you moving the goalpost? This was never about who started anything.
Reminder that this is what you're defending
>there's also no doxxing and harassing on twitch
>happens far more frequently with exclusively youtube-based, japanese vtubers than on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791129
and what led to the rise of NijiEN and Vshojo, faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74790876
>westerners
>taking responsibility
The act of self reflection and taking responsibility for ones own actions is not something that exist in their culture today anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74790908
>Thinks nyfco didn't have actual personal information on it
I accept your concession.
You could find faces, names, age, previous employment, and even LinkedIn pages on it. You're blissfully ignorant then

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
Has EN vtubing taken over? Vspo is the third biggest corpo and their English presence is no existent and the EN group brave wants to shit out is nowhere to be seen. Niji is still number 2 despite the absolute shit show that is their EN branch.

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>>74791272
>You could find faces, names, age, previous employment, and even LinkedIn pages on it.
None of these things are "doxxxxx" if they posted it online themselves. The website is not publishing that information as they published it themselves.

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>>74791319
???????
The fuck are you talking about, you think chuubas are just linking their LinkedIn profiles on their Twitter bio? If so your bait is getting desperate.
That's literally textbook doxxing, they even explained how they got said information, which usually involved looking at accidental leaks on stream and connecting personal relationships

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
go back to /jp/ if you don't like it here Ken-SEAma

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>>74788460
Would you like to be honest about the two biggest drama events this board had ever experienced?

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>>74791433
If it wasn't intentionally published by them then I agree that it's dox. Which vtuber are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791231
Sushi sushi boneto flakes seaweed

[Anonymous No.]

If a vtuber doesn't speak English, they don't exist to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791139
>this is something that happened because of western expansion
>it existed before western expansion
>why are you moving the goalposts?

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>>74791319
I'm saving this to grudgepost later, holy shit what a retard. All it takes is one schizo like you to take that information and mail them a fucking pipe bomb or send a swat team to their house to kill them or their dog.

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>>74788460
But EN vtubing took over in 2020...

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791914
I never claimed anything happened because of western expansion, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
i have the same sentiments
there is still /jp/ if you want to exclusively talk about jp stuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791954
>I never claimed anything happened because of western expansion, retard.
>>74788460

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>>74791955
I'm gonna mating press you

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>>74791933
Why are you suddenly claiming that a billion vtubers have been location doxed?

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>>74790198
I don't even like zaion, but people like this should be booked and given real time. Actual doxxing can be life threatening once schizos get a whiff, fuck this piece of shit for acting like dox is a joke and spreading it.

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>>74791988
I''m not OP, retard. OP never even said doxing started because of "western expansion". He is complaining that an EN garbage board is filled with EN garbage like an idiot.

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>>74792047
It was. She had to move because Nijisanji couldn't keep their fucking personal information private.
Recently they tried to get her again, but they apparently missed.

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>>74788584
Fpbp

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>>74791968
/jp/ is full of EN.

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>>74790198
Where's the bait? I was not talking about Sayu as she is not a japanese vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791968
From what I've seen the generals that stayed in /jp/ are much smaller than pre /vt/. To the point where there's barely actual discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

Non-holo en vtubers are all trash. Always have been.

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>>74788460
Vtubing discussion /here/ was already a complete dumpsterfire, thats literally the reason why /vt/ was created in the first place.
If anything it was worse in 2021, as bait threads were made over the pettiest women shit yes even pettier than today if you can believe that instead of actual problems like today.

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>>74792062
you don't have to be okay living surrounded by shit dude
what happened to self moderation

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789290
I wanna say based, but this seems like a real thing china would do.
Even I'm not that anti-women godamn

[Anonymous No.]

>>74792347
This is like going to /jp/ and saying you want to self moderate to have less 2hu in it. This board was made when the EN shit flooded /jp/ and clearly needed to go somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74792479
there's clearly a decline in quality
why is this supposed to be defendable

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
What drama channels were like when not talking about Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74792637
who the hell is that

[Anonymous No.]

>>74794622
False. Even his videos with Niji drama in it are like 20% niji drama then 80% shilling indies and corpos (including niji merch drops sometimes)

[Anonymous No.]

>>74794684
gura would never...

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>>74789197
this but without any hint of irony whatsoever

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788584
You’re the tourist here
Fandom equivalent of a mexican borderwall climber

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>>74790311
Fuck off retard, we were talking about how to find Coco all the way back in the
>still in holo, but hiding from chinese antis
phase of her career on all fronts. Because it was the only way to watch her without 4 million zhang bots named after historical figures clogging up her chat.

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>>74790047
You mean they can't/won't do something that'll get removed from the board the minute it's posted? I get that I woke up early today and it's ESL retard hours, but damn people like you give me a very sad look into the SEA education system if your retard logic works like that... It's genuinely not hard to find the info you're saying they can't provide, but that'd assume you're not too mentally handicapped to use Google, which I question at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>74796150
>calling other people SEA while not understanding what's being said
The fucking irony.

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>>74790047
They were spam calling her fucking house phone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74796300
And who's they? I never saw her phone number posted anywhere at that time so I can only assume she was being harassed by people close to her. That doesn't mean she was doxed even if she was harassed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74796374
Ah yes, the "if I close my eyes and scream loud enough, people might forget reality" approach. Just like Elira. It's a bold move, Chuck! Let's see how well it goes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>74796510
The reality is that her phone number wasn't posted anywhere public. You're the one screaming to try and drown out reality.

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>>74788460
Surprised?

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>>74796582
>doxx bait this blatant
do your reps, you're not worth the ban

[Anonymous No.]

>>74799446
Concession accepted. She was never doxed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
back in my day it was just fun posting with ogeys, rrats and towa. now its just.. i dont know. everyone decent fucked off into their generals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74800667
twapsex...

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>>74795737
/jp/ waits u

[Anonymous No.]

>>74790043
Cope. SEA and nijikeks are one and the same.

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>>74789849

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>>74803656
Hasn't been doxed.

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>>74795737
>Fandom equivalent of a mexican borderwall climber
both are also brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>74803810
She has, actually. The whole deal, by one of her former roommates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74804289
But she hasn't. I think it was the nyfco admin who claimed to have received some info from her but it was never published or confirmed.

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>>74788460

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>>74788584
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789290
Hey, this is fucking gross. Source it or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

EN Vtubing outside of hololive is garbage and i'm tired of hearing retards defend them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788584
holy based

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>>74800667
>now its just.. i dont know. everyone decent fucked off into their generals.
The generals, specially the JP ones, are safe lands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74813601
make a gozaru one and I can tell you what one of the first replies is gonna be

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>>74788460
will we ever have a vtuber as sexy as Hotaru?

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>>74788460

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>>74813601
I fucking wish. It's only safe during NA hours.
t.Ruffian

[Anonymous No.]

>>74807729
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791462
>two biggest
Rushia termination and Selen termination, maybe? Anything in the running either got nuked by jannies or happened so long ago most of the SEAs on this board weren't around for it.

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>>74814652
You weren't kidding. lmao >>74821067

[Anonymous No.]

>>74813601
>>74814652
>>74823670
Jesus fucking christ.
Kind of hilarious in its own way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>74789290
Based

>>74807585
I mean, they're not wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>74791105
The Doki Gambit only worked because of the perfect storm of how much good will Selen built up in the community outside of the Niji Bubble, how cruel Nijisanji was to her and how incompetent they executed her termination. Especially not revoking her mods privileges, which was the biggest reason people found out Doki was Selen.

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>>74788584
based EOP GOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>74788460
Retards will seethe but the moment the board allowed dramanigs and numbertrannies, it was already over
People post reddit, twitter and numbershit pics without being called out most of the time unlike most of the 4chan boards

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>>74788460
Pick your dilated asshole up off the floor and crawl back to /jp/. HoloEN is the reason /vt/ was created. You are a tenant in the house than EN chuubas built. You don't have shit and you never had shit. Go fuck yourself.

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>>74807729
yuki nagato would've been a chuuba