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7429157 No.7429157 [Reply] [Original]

Face the truth. HoloEN and NijiEN are shit, HoloJP and NijiJP are based. Simple as. Well, some of the ENs are alright sometimes, but that's about it.
I will never be Japanese, you say? True, but I'm doing my reps and it's getting better bit by bit. That's how I know JP girls (and boys too, mind you) never stopped being entertaining. I was skeptical about HoloEN like many, then they turned out to be not that bad and I watched a lot of trinity, even watched Ame more than my oshi sometimes. Now this new fad wore off and... EN is boring, both Holo and Niji. I'm tired of collabs without chemistry, half-assed streams, stale jokes, pandering to stupid EOP memes.
Any major Holo Minecraft collab, for example, mogs every collab EN ever had. 5 minutes of Nijisanji AR live mog every content ever produced by any EN excluding maybe some of Ame's creative bursts. Take any EN and there are multiple JP vtubers who do the same thing but better. Korone, Pekora, Fubuki? Better entertainers than any EN. Marine, Mio, Roboco? Better social / collab organizing skills than any EN. Gens 3 and 5? Better chemistry than any EN group. The list could go on. As for Niji of course there's a fuckton of them but there are a lot of people who are really good at singing, collabing, zatsudan or gaming (or maybe even more than one of these things), males and females alike. If you're filtered by males then you're missing out on kino. I won't even start talking about new Niji JP wave, their first collab was so fucking hilarious that I literally had tears in my eyes from laughing.
Actually every day since I started watching JP chuubas had some emotional moments: laughing in game streams and collabs, getting emotional while listening to utawaku, touching moments in zatsudans when they were talking about their inner thoughts, past experiences, current events, future dreams. But I have to try pretty hard to remember moments from EN streams where I genuinely laughed. There were a lot of times where I tried to keep my cringe levels low (especially in collabs) and endure for the sake of one or two good moments. Simply put, while JP chuubas were still entertaining (and a lot of the ones I watch actually came a long way and improved themselves in some sense), it got more and more difficult to put up with EN shit.
>Calliope "5%" Mori who often sounded like she's going to fall asleep any second, both in solo streams and collabs
>Ame with her increasing laziness, eventual pandering to memes and refusing to grow (and I hate these mood swings when she produces kino sometimes but also has moments when she sounds like she's bored out of her mind and hates her viewers with passion)
>Kiara with her obnoxious trying to be funny every second which succeeds maybe once in a 30 minutes
>Ina who is just there and rarely shows any initiative
>Gura speaking in memes, refusing to leave her comfort zone and non-existent outside of streams
>NijiEN as a whole having pretty good chemistry but pandering and pandering and pandering to EOP zoomer memes to the extreme
I tried watching NijiEN2 but Petra is just boring, Rosemi is just annoying and Selen is really obnoxious with her retarded laugh and ""humor"" (honestly, the fact that she became /vt/'s darling shows the absolute state of this board these days more than anything).
Last but not the least. All EN chuubas are really distant from their fans. Supporting chuubas is all about connection, no not a "parasocial relationship" you sociopathic retards, I mean the kind of connection where you are genuinely interested in ALL of your oshi's activities and wish them success in all of their endeavors and they do their best to improve themselves every day and properly show it to you. The one where you cry tears of joy when he or she sings in 3D for the first time. Not the one where you watch le meme clip of them with a retarded clickbait thumbnail and call it a day.
You probably think I'm wrong, but there are plenty of signs that suggest otherwise. If you're a numberfag look at declining EN numbers and unwavering numbers of someone like Pekora or Niji newbie Leos Vincent who managed to get 20k in each of his daytime streams despite streaming alongside a lot of popular chuubas. If you care about Twitter or YT comments compare EN ones with JP ones, where EN are just meme diarrhea and JP (even English-speaking JP vtuber fans) try to have some actual discussion at least. If you care about what /vt/ thinks, look at what this board has come to. Half-dead generals, mulling over the same months old rrats again and again, tribalshit, falseflaggers, muh numbers, that's all. EN is dying. Not in popularity sense, but in quality sense. Soon they all will be fully consumed by mediocrity, eceleb shit and retarded zoomer "community". It's not too late to start doing your reps. Take a JP pill now, anon.

>> No.7429220

The only pills you need to take are your prescribed meds, schitzo.

>> No.7429238

>>7429157
Post is too long for my zoomer brain to read as im pomu

>> No.7429246

>>7429157
tl;dr

>> No.7429262

>>7429238
But Pomu is certified boomer

>> No.7429267

Learn how to use paragraphs instead of a wall of text.

>> No.7429298
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7429298

I cant read

>> No.7429339

>>7429157
Ywnbj

>> No.7429356

>>7429157
Selen is better in APEX than half of Nijisanji and all Hololive

>> No.7429375

>>7429157
wordswordswords
All you need are 5 letters: YWNBJ

>> No.7429388

Can you not mention my wife Leos in this shitty post, thank you.

>> No.7429419
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7429419

>>7429157
who the fuck is gonna read all that

>> No.7429445

>>7429267
I used them, blindchama. Or what, did you want reddit spacing?
>>7429298
>>7429238
>>7429246
>>7429419
QED. /vt/ is filled to the brim with the same underage retards who shit out memes in YT comments.
>>7429356
Somehow one EN girl being good at APEX magically makes all of them entertaining?

>> No.7429483

>>7429157
They're all fine you just have autism.

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7429518

>I used them, blindchama. Or what, did you want reddit spacing?
>QED. /vt/ is filled to the brim with the same underage retards who shit out memes in YT comments.
>Somehow one EN girl being good at APEX magically makes all of them entertaining?

>> No.7429522

>>7429388
Why wouldn't I mention someone who's genuinely good at being entertaining? I really like his gen, they're all good

>> No.7429551

>>7429157
So you’re the guy making all the anti posts about specific VTubers who hsppen to be EN.

>> No.7429555

>>7429356
>half
I can only name one that could compete against her (Bora).

>> No.7429559

The fact that there are only 5 EN members and your writing a schizo rant to convince people that jp is better means you've already lost.

>> No.7429643

>>7429157
i love ina

>> No.7429655

>>7429522
Because you're only mentioning him to shit on everyone else. For some reason aside from the male thread he is only ever mentioned in a "he's better than literally everyone" "look at his big numbers" context and it's quite rude, you did both in this post.

>> No.7429658

>>7429551
>express that I'm bored with EN in general despite all of them having their good moments here and there, not attack anyone in particular
>you're the guy making all the anti posts
How does it feel to have paranoid disorder?
>>7429559
Read, nigger. I mentioned at least HoloEN and NijiEN and I meant most of the new EN startups as well.

>> No.7429683

>I'm horny
>Hi honey
>Pettan
>Pelo pelo

>> No.7429716

>>7429445
>Somehow one EN girl being good at APEX magically makes all of them entertaining?
Not all of them have to be entertaining? Even one good talent is enough to save a gen. And mind you, rosemi and Petra used to be actual JP vtubers. They're just doing the same things they did back then in English

>> No.7429724

>>7429157
anon im concerned please take your meds

>> No.7429727

>>7429683
*Peko Peko

>> No.7429731
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7429731

>he didn't take the NijiEN pill
ngmi

>> No.7429733

>>7429658
I really do agree with you I really wanted to like both EN branches. But the constant repetition of games like Minecraft and Apex and not doing anything that JP wasn’t doing already really turned me off

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7429744

>>7429157
tl;dr you are a fag

>> No.7429761

>>7429445
>I used them, blindchama. Or what, did you want reddit spacing?
the absolute state of retards trying too hard to fit in

>> No.7429793

>>7429555
Lauren is better than Bora or Selen.

>> No.7429876

>>7429793
t. Axia

>> No.7429886

>>7429655
Didn't really come across these, I guess that might be a part of him being new and people wanting to find something fresh to scream "it's the best thing ever" about, so that will probably die out fast. Anyway, I just used him as an example and didn't mean to shit on anyone's oshi considering some things in my post being clearly exaggerated, come on anon. I'm just tired of Holo vs Niji tribalfaggotry and people sleeping on good chuubas

>> No.7429895

>>7429419
i read it all. i dont really have anything to say in response tho

>> No.7429966

I….agree

>> No.7430041

>>7429157
>admitting to watching Nijisanji and actually saying good things about them
Yeah, you are an idiot which also means everything you have to say is wrong.

>> No.7430060

>>7429886
>tired of tribalfagging
>makes a tribalfagging wall of text
Oh ok

>> No.7430114

>>7429157
explain a simple thing to me: why would I want to watch someone who can't even learn to speak human language?

>> No.7430183

>>7429157
I wanted to reply with jwnbj but I actually agree with alot of what you said about EN

>> No.7430238

>>7429157
zomg loud obnoxious japan menhera i understand 10% of good
english bad

>> No.7430255

>>7429157
I'm not gonna pretend to understand japanese nor am I going to pretend to know while secretly watching translated clips

>> No.7430322
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7430322

lolno. That's factually wrong. ENtubers are pound for pound more successful than anyone on the JP side, regardless of their brand association. There are both more weebs and better talent in English speaking countries then there are in nip countries.

>> No.7430430

>>7429559
Not just 5 EN, the top EN Minecrafter is not even Lamy tier yet. EN needs a Gen or two with say Botan level Minecraft to develop the EN server.

If by some fucking miracle, an EN Gen includes someone like FalseSymmetry, the boom. Things will get going on the EN server

>> No.7430434

>>7430322
weeaboos will argue with this objectively demonstrated truth

>> No.7430541

>>7430322
Hololive did not explode in popularity until EN showed up. Suddenly, subscriber and view rates skyrocketed across many of the talents.

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7430544

>>7429157
how many times I have to tell you, I don't speak japanese!

>> No.7430565
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7430565

Watch Elira!

>> No.7430599

>>7430541
Same could be said for Nijisanji, who's EN branch is far and away more popular than any JP branch - probably multiple JP branches combined. VShojo's meteoric rise in popularity is another example, despite having been around for less than a year.

>> No.7430780
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7430780

I took the ID pill instead.

>> No.7430788

>>7429445
>I used them, blindchama. Or what, did you want reddit spacing?
There's a difference between making your blog post actually readable

and

doing

this

shit

>> No.7430829

>>7430255
Why would you pretend if you could just do your reps?

>> No.7430969

>>7430829
go ask that to 99% of holoJP purists here and in /jp/

>> No.7431001

>>7430780
Out of six members, maybe two are worth watching. One is Ollie. The other vacillates depending on the week.

>> No.7431037

>>7431001
I like all of them except for Iofi

>> No.7431080

>>7431037
You don't watch Anya, don't lie. No one watches Anya.

>> No.7431120

>>7430599
At least holoEN is a good bait but saying this about nijisanji is trying too hard

>> No.7431243

>>7431080
I never said I watch any of them, I only dislike Iofi

>> No.7431353

>>7429157
I just watch SMOK specially Subaru I really like their quality. I agree that EN its might not be as good. But not all the world knows japanese.

>> No.7431505

>>7429339
>You Will Need BlowJob
why yes fortune cookie anon how did you know?

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7431585

>>7431080
I watch Anya. Doing my reps right now actually.

>> No.7431662

>>7431001
You know, HoloID aren't the only ID vtubers out there. ID vtubers scene is the most vibrant after JP, EN, and maybe CN. Just because they have far lower numbers doesn't mean that they're not interesting.

>> No.7431669

>>7429157
No, Hell the fuck no, keep those EOP freaks in clips and ENstreams where they firmly fucking belong.

>> No.7431691

>>7431662
If you mean Hana, her dad is more entertaining than she is.

>> No.7434062

>>7430322
>>7430544
>g*ra picture
"opinion" discard

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7434156

Didn't ask, NijiEN as a whole is pretty great though.

>> No.7436966

>>7429157
you are wrong op nijichinks its shit even jp (in this days)
>also
Are you dump? En vtubers are shit but them fans is pure cancer and you want to infectar more the jp vtubers? kys

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7438600

>>7429157
I'm happy enough as is with my current Oshis, and I'm already teaching myself my third language. If I could instantly learn Japanese, then maybe I'll go for a second tour of the JP's, but I'm not sinking time into a dying language just so I can watch something that has an English speaking alternative that I enjoy regardless.

>> No.7439097

>>7429157
Im not reading that. im happy for you, or sorry it happened

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7439149

>>7429157
BREAKDOWN
BREAKDOWN

>> No.7439307

>>7429157
tldr

>> No.7439325

>>7429886
>Acting retarded to bring holobronies and nijifags together to shit on you
I respect it, I guess

>> No.7439663

I won't give OP a (You), but お前は決して日本人になりません。

>> No.7440391

None of you speak Japanese. You're all clipfags pretending you actually watch their streams.

>> No.7446376

I don't even pretend to understand any Japanese but I have to agree

>> No.7450888

>>7429157
I never gave ENshit a chance or will.

You can't trust any muritards.

>> No.7451585

>>7429157
I like NijiEn and Holojp.

>> No.7451972

>>7429157
Holy fuck I'm not reading that shit, Beside Watson and Selen, every HoloEN and NijiEN is shit.

>> No.7452075

>>7451972
Underage zoomer detected. You must be over 18 to browse this board.

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7452137

>>7429157
I ain't reading all that
I'm happy for you tho
or sorry that happened

you will never be japanese >>>/jp/
don't shitpost with daisempai

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7452202

>>7429157
Didn't read lol

>> No.7452285

>>7429157
>needing a wall of text
Nah seems like JP is for whores and JOP larpers only

>> No.7452723

>>7429157
mostly right but no more stupid eops. too many dumb eops commenting in the jp comment sections. theyve drastically increased. now all holo jp comment sections are filled to the brim with dumb eop comments.

yes jp vtubers are superior and more entertain than en vtubers. the contents are diverse and more decently planned. also they have many off collabs most western ones can never have.. its all true but dont propagate it. just shut up and learn japnaese and watch them alone. also use japanese there even if your japnaese is garbage.

>> No.7452769

OP may be right about HoloEN, but NijiEN own
t. HoloJP fanboy

>> No.7453084

I ain't read none of that shit but EN a shit

>> No.7453354

>>7453084
Imagine not reading the textwall of ultimate truth. He's right about almost everything.

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>>7429157
>the one where you cry tears of joy when he or she sings in 3D for the first time
hahaha this nigga crying at ethots singing while hiding behind anime models hahaha re-evaluate your life nigga please hahaha its not too late nigga i believe in you hahahaha

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7453947

>>7429157
moe has always been the only true en vtuber,
has been for the past 5 years.

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7456114

>>7429157
>I will never be Japanese, you say? True, but I'm doing my reps and it's getting better bit by bit.

>> No.7458945

>>7451972
You're such a cool kid, anon, how about Gargoyle Goomba then?

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7462926

>>7429157
>JP is automatically good
Yeah, no. Pic related is on Hololive, don't even get me started on Nijis and NorioPro.

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7463001

>>7429157
Man, Sora is so cute.

>> No.7463120

>>7462926
>Sora, Nene, Korone in GFE
>Fubuki in reddit
>Polka
No amount of meds can save you

>> No.7463334

Wow. What shit formatting. Good that you admit to why EOPs are shit. They refuse to learn the language and live off the white noise and illusion that clippers fabricate. If you did, you'd know they are exactly the same as their EN counterparts more than you care to admit. The only real advantage to JP is that they live near each other while EN is separated by large distances so they can't just drop in like JP can; physically and digitally because of timezone differences. Not as often at least.

>> No.7463437

>>7463120
>Sora
Yeah, no clue what anon is on about
>Nene
I can sort of see it, but not really
>Korone
Actually right on this one, she's hard GFE in member streams
>Fubuki
She used to be very reddit-oriented about half to a year ago, but not now
>Polka
Last time I watched her many months ago this description was accurate, did she get better since?

>> No.7463520

>>7452769
NijiEN were surgically targeted at the EOP Hololive audience and it seems to have worked out for them, but will it stick once they introduce the dreaded males?
(I also think they benefitted enormously from being fresh faces after a long drought and aren't actually all that interesting. See also: IRyS)

>> No.7464247

>>7429157
Op is right about alot of it.

Do you really see any of the EN members still sticking around in 5 years? I don't.

Invert in JP.

>> No.7464483

>>7429157

It is true that the Japanese are just better at this.

If you're a normalfag, the best comparison I could make it Brit comedy vs American comedy. You can like one or the other but the reality is they're just different. It's the same with Japanese streamers vs American streamers.

American streaming culture is bathroom humor, yelling, drama, trolling and ego. None of it translates into what makes vtubers popular.

It's probably the biggest reason Gura got so big. Despite expectations she's the closest thing to a JP streamer that the west has to offer. Ina could probably have been close if she tried harder but her personality is a little too laid back for it.

>> No.7464614

>>7462926

You worked hard on this bait let's see how it does.

>> No.7464709
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>Face the truth. HoloEN and NijiEN are shit, HoloJP and NijiJP are based. Simple as. Well, some of the ENs are alright sometimes, but that's about it.
I will never be Japanese, you say? True, but I'm doing my reps and it's getting better bit by bit. That's how I know JP girls (and boys too, mind you) never stopped being entertaining. I was skeptical about HoloEN like many, then they turned out to be not that bad and I watched a lot of trinity, even watched Ame more than my oshi sometimes. Now this new fad wore off and... EN is boring, both Holo and Niji. I'm tired of collabs without chemistry, half-assed streams, stale jokes, pandering to stupid EOP memes.
Any major Holo Minecraft collab, for example, mogs every collab EN ever had. 5 minutes of Nijisanji AR live mog every content ever produced by any EN excluding maybe some of Ame's creative bursts. Take any EN and there are multiple JP vtubers who do the same thing but better. Korone, Pekora, Fubuki? Better entertainers than any EN. Marine, Mio, Roboco? Better social / collab organizing skills than any EN. Gens 3 and 5? Better chemistry than any EN group. The list could go on. As for Niji of course there's a fuckton of them but there are a lot of people who are really good at singing, collabing, zatsudan or gaming (or maybe even more than one of these things), males and females alike. If you're filtered by males then you're missing out on kino. I won't even start talking about new Niji JP wave, their first collab was so fucking hilarious that I literally had tears in my eyes from laughing.
Actually every day since I started watching JP chuubas had some emotional moments: laughing in game streams and collabs, getting emotional while listening to utawaku, touching moments in zatsudans when they were talking about their inner thoughts, past experiences, current events, future dreams. But I have to try pretty hard to remember moments from EN streams where I genuinely laughed. There were a lot of times where I tried to keep my cringe levels low (especially in collabs) and endure for the sake of one or two good moments. Simply put, while JP chuubas were still entertaining (and a lot of the ones I watch actually came a long way and improved themselves in some sense), it got more and more difficult to put up with EN shit.
>Calliope "5%" Mori who often sounded like she's going to fall asleep any second, both in solo streams and collabs
>Ame with her increasing laziness, eventual pandering to memes and refusing to grow (and I hate these mood swings when she produces kino sometimes but also has moments when she sounds like she's bored out of her mind and hates her viewers with passion)
>Kiara with her obnoxious trying to be funny every second which succeeds maybe once in a 30 minutes
>Ina who is just there and rarely shows any initiative
>Gura speaking in memes, refusing to leave her comfort zone and non-existent outside of streams
>NijiEN as a whole having pretty good chemistry but pandering and pandering and pandering to EOP zoomer memes to the extreme
I tried watching NijiEN2 but Petra is just boring, Rosemi is just annoying and Selen is really obnoxious with her retarded laugh and ""humor"" (honestly, the fact that she became /vt/'s darling shows the absolute state of this board these days more than anything).
Last but not the least. All EN chuubas are really distant from their fans. Supporting chuubas is all about connection, no not a "parasocial relationship" you sociopathic retards, I mean the kind of connection where you are genuinely interested in ALL of your oshi's activities and wish them success in all of their endeavors and they do their best to improve themselves every day and properly show it to you. The one where you cry tears of joy when he or she sings in 3D for the first time. Not the one where you watch le meme clip of them with a retarded clickbait thumbnail and call it a day.
You probably think I'm wrong, but there are plenty of signs that suggest otherwise. If you're a numberfag look at declining EN numbers and unwavering numbers of someone like Pekora or Niji newbie Leos Vincent who managed to get 20k in each of his daytime streams despite streaming alongside a lot of popular chuubas. If you care about Twitter or YT comments compare EN ones with JP ones, where EN are just meme diarrhea and JP (even English-speaking JP vtuber fans) try to have some actual discussion at least. If you care about what /vt/ thinks, look at what this board has come to. Half-dead generals, mulling over the same months old rrats again and again, tribalshit, falseflaggers, muh numbers, that's all. EN is dying. Not in popularity sense, but in quality sense. Soon they all will be fully consumed by mediocrity, eceleb shit and retarded zoomer "community". It's not too late to start doing your reps. Take a JP pill now, anon.

>> No.7464788

Am japanese.
EN girls is more better than JP.
I love cunny shark.

>> No.7464874

>>7464709
>Ame wojack
Kill yourself and your entire family

>> No.7465287

>>7429157
>Supporting chuubas is all about connection, no not a "parasocial relationship"
>Describes a parasocial relationship
?

>> No.7467264

>>7429157
Faggot

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>Face the truth. HoloEN and NijiEN are shit, HoloJP and NijiJP are based. Simple as. Well, some of the ENs are alright sometimes, but that's about it.
>I will never be Japanese, you say? True, but I'm doing my reps and it's getting better bit by bit. That's how I know JP girls (and boys too, mind you) never stopped being entertaining. I was skeptical about HoloEN like many, then they turned out to be not that bad and I watched a lot of trinity, even watched Ame more than my oshi sometimes. Now this new fad wore off and... EN is boring, both Holo and Niji. I'm tired of collabs without chemistry, half-assed streams, stale jokes, pandering to stupid EOP memes.
>Any major Holo Minecraft collab, for example, mogs every collab EN ever had. 5 minutes of Nijisanji AR live mog every content ever produced by any EN excluding maybe some of Ame's creative bursts. Take any EN and there are multiple JP vtubers who do the same thing but better. Korone, Pekora, Fubuki? Better entertainers than any EN. Marine, Mio, Roboco? Better social / collab organizing skills than any EN. Gens 3 and 5? Better chemistry than any EN group. The list could go on. As for Niji of course there's a fuckton of them but there are a lot of people who are really good at singing, collabing, zatsudan or gaming (or maybe even more than one of these things), males and females alike. If you're filtered by males then you're missing out on kino. I won't even start talking about new Niji JP wave, their first collab was so fucking hilarious that I literally had tears in my eyes from laughing.
>Actually every day since I started watching JP chuubas had some emotional moments: laughing in game streams and collabs, getting emotional while listening to utawaku, touching moments in zatsudans when they were talking about their inner thoughts, past experiences, current events, future dreams. But I have to try pretty hard to remember moments from EN streams where I genuinely laughed. There were a lot of times where I tried to keep my cringe levels low (especially in collabs) and endure for the sake of one or two good moments. Simply put, while JP chuubas were still entertaining (and a lot of the ones I watch actually came a long way and improved themselves in some sense), it got more and more difficult to put up with EN shit.
>>Calliope "5%" Mori who often sounded like she's going to fall asleep any second, both in solo streams and collabs
>>Ame with her increasing laziness, eventual pandering to memes and refusing to grow (and I hate these mood swings when she produces kino sometimes but also has moments when she sounds like she's bored out of her mind and hates her viewers with passion)
>>Kiara with her obnoxious trying to be funny every second which succeeds maybe once in a 30 minutes
>>Ina who is just there and rarely shows any initiative
>>Gura speaking in memes, refusing to leave her comfort zone and non-existent outside of streams
>>NijiEN as a whole having pretty good chemistry but pandering and pandering and pandering to EOP zoomer memes to the extreme
>I tried watching NijiEN2 but Petra is just boring, Rosemi is just annoying and Selen is really obnoxious with her retarded laugh and ""humor"" (honestly, the fact that she became /vt/'s darling shows the absolute state of this board these days more than anything).
>Last but not the least. All EN chuubas are really distant from their fans. Supporting chuubas is all about connection, no not a "parasocial relationship" you sociopathic retards, I mean the kind of connection where you are genuinely interested in ALL of your oshi's activities and wish them success in all of their endeavors and they do their best to improve themselves every day and properly show it to you. The one where you cry tears of joy when he or she sings in 3D for the first time. Not the one where you watch le meme clip of them with a retarded clickbait thumbnail and call it a day.
>You probably think I'm wrong, but there are plenty of signs that suggest otherwise. If you're a numberfag look at declining EN numbers and unwavering numbers of someone like Pekora or Niji newbie Leos Vincent who managed to get 20k in each of his daytime streams despite streaming alongside a lot of popular chuubas. If you care about Twitter or YT comments compare EN ones with JP ones, where EN are just meme diarrhea and JP (even English-speaking JP vtuber fans) try to have some actual discussion at least. If you care about what /vt/ thinks, look at what this board has come to. Half-dead generals, mulling over the same months old rrats again and again, tribalshit, falseflaggers, muh numbers, that's all. EN is dying. Not in popularity sense, but in quality sense. Soon they all will be fully consumed by mediocrity, eceleb shit and retarded zoomer "community". It's not too late to start doing your reps. Take a JP pill now, anon.

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>>7429157
>Face the truth. HoloEN and NijiEN are shit, HoloJP and NijiJP are based. Simple as. Well, some of the ENs are alright sometimes, but that's about it.
>I will never be Japanese, you say? True, but I'm doing my reps and it's getting better bit by bit. That's how I know JP girls (and boys too, mind you) never stopped being entertaining. I was skeptical about HoloEN like many, then they turned out to be not that bad and I watched a lot of trinity, even watched Ame more than my oshi sometimes. Now this new fad wore off and... EN is boring, both Holo and Niji. I'm tired of collabs without chemistry, half-assed streams, stale jokes, pandering to stupid EOP memes.
>Any major Holo Minecraft collab, for example, mogs every collab EN ever had. 5 minutes of Nijisanji AR live mog every content ever produced by any EN excluding maybe some of Ame's creative bursts. Take any EN and there are multiple JP vtubers who do the same thing but better. Korone, Pekora, Fubuki? Better entertainers than any EN. Marine, Mio, Roboco? Better social / collab organizing skills than any EN. Gens 3 and 5? Better chemistry than any EN group. The list could go on. As for Niji of course there's a fuckton of them but there are a lot of people who are really good at singing, collabing, zatsudan or gaming (or maybe even more than one of these things), males and females alike. If you're filtered by males then you're missing out on kino. I won't even start talking about new Niji JP wave, their first collab was so fucking hilarious that I literally had tears in my eyes from laughing.
>Actually every day since I started watching JP chuubas had some emotional moments: laughing in game streams and collabs, getting emotional while listening to utawaku, touching moments in zatsudans when they were talking about their inner thoughts, past experiences, current events, future dreams. But I have to try pretty hard to remember moments from EN streams where I genuinely laughed. There were a lot of times where I tried to keep my cringe levels low (especially in collabs) and endure for the sake of one or two good moments. Simply put, while JP chuubas were still entertaining (and a lot of the ones I watch actually came a long way and improved themselves in some sense), it got more and more difficult to put up with EN shit.
>>Calliope "5%" Mori who often sounded like she's going to fall asleep any second, both in solo streams and collabs
>>Ame with her increasing laziness, eventual pandering to memes and refusing to grow (and I hate these mood swings when she produces kino sometimes but also has moments when she sounds like she's bored out of her mind and hates her viewers with passion)
>>Kiara with her obnoxious trying to be funny every second which succeeds maybe once in a 30 minutes
>>Ina who is just there and rarely shows any initiative
>>Gura speaking in memes, refusing to leave her comfort zone and non-existent outside of streams
>>NijiEN as a whole having pretty good chemistry but pandering and pandering and pandering to EOP zoomer memes to the extreme
>I tried watching NijiEN2 but Petra is just boring, Rosemi is just annoying and Selen is really obnoxious with her retarded laugh and ""humor"" (honestly, the fact that she became /vt/'s darling shows the absolute state of this board these days more than anything).
>Last but not the least. All EN chuubas are really distant from their fans. Supporting chuubas is all about connection, no not a "parasocial relationship" you sociopathic retards, I mean the kind of connection where you are genuinely interested in ALL of your oshi's activities and wish them success in all of their endeavors and they do their best to improve themselves every day and properly show it to you. The one where you cry tears of joy when he or she sings in 3D for the first time. Not the one where you watch le meme clip of them with a retarded clickbait thumbnail and call it a day.
>You probably think I'm wrong, but there are plenty of signs that suggest otherwise. If you're a numberfag look at declining EN numbers and unwavering numbers of someone like Pekora or Niji newbie Leos Vincent who managed to get 20k in each of his daytime streams despite streaming alongside a lot of popular chuubas. If you care about Twitter or YT comments compare EN ones with JP ones, where EN are just meme diarrhea and JP (even English-speaking JP vtuber fans) try to have some actual discussion at least. If you care about what /vt/ thinks, look at what this board has come to. Half-dead generals, mulling over the same months old rrats again and again, tribalshit, falseflaggers, muh numbers, that's all. EN is dying. Not in popularity sense, but in quality sense. Soon they all will be fully consumed by mediocrity, eceleb shit and retarded zoomer "community". It's not too late to start doing your reps. Take a JP pill now, anon.

>> No.7469417

>>7464709
>>7469160
eternal 2view lmao can't even greentext properly thats why your twitch is dead

>> No.7469548

>>7429157
>WATCH MY JAPANESE WHORE NOW!!
1 in 20 JP women have appeared in porn.

>> No.7469589

>>7430060
dumbass-kun...
there wasn’t tribalfagging...
just shitting on low effort English branches from every company...

>> No.7469607
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>eternal 2view lmao can't even greentext properly thats why your twitch is dead

>> No.7469688
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>>7431037
Die.

>> No.7469705

>>7452202
>/soc/whore Simp can't read
Color me surprised.

>> No.7469838

>>7462926
>Risu
>Reddit
”Hello /jp/ please remember to take your meds.” -Ayunda Risu

>> No.7469947

>>7469607
eternal 2view lmao

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>eternal 2view lmao

>> No.7470088

>>7429157
Honestly, I agree with everything
The biggest thing for me is how terrible EN collabs are. It's been what, like 10 months and they still sound like they are talking for the first time in every collab. Being an N99 reading live TLs of a JP collab is somehow 10x more entertaining than EN collabs
Also, ironic or not, the "ywnbj" posting just shows how retarded the average EN fan is. Completely lacking self-awareness. This site wouldn't exist if it weren't for people trying to be japanese

>> No.7470121

>>7470004
eternal 2view lmao

>> No.7470174

>>7470004
>828

>> No.7470220
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7470220

>Honestly, I agree with everything
>The biggest thing for me is how terrible EN collabs are. It's been what, like 10 months and they still sound like they are talking for the first time in every collab. Being an N99 reading live TLs of a JP collab is somehow 10x more entertaining than EN collabs
>Also, ironic or not, the "ywnbj" posting just shows how retarded the average EN fan is. Completely lacking self-awareness. This site wouldn't exist if it weren't for people trying to be japanese

>> No.7470265

>>7470088
>This site wouldn't exist if it weren't for people trying to be japanese
nobody ever liked turbo-weebs here Ken-sama. That's why they were kicked out of /a/ you revisionist faggot

>> No.7470379

>>7470088
>t. Newfag cancer.

>> No.7477187

>>7429157
Agreed. Calli, Ame, Kiara, Ina, Gura, Petra, Wosemi, and Selen are all cancer. But you forgot to specifically call out the 3 most based EN tubers, the holy trinity of unity: Pomu, Elira, and Finana. They're what makes EN Vtubing all worth it.

>> No.7481481

>>7429157
Based

>> No.7481593

>>7429157
Not gonna read, shitty bait, YWNBJ

>> No.7481634

>>7470088
You will never fit in with the Japanese, American. They will always consider you their enemy deep down.

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[ERROR]

>>7429157
>Leos Vincent
>20k every stream
Oh no no no no

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