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>> No.74241941
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>> No.74241998

I love FuwaMoco.
I love hololive.
I love holoJP.
I love collabs with JPs.

>> No.74242015
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Since I already feel like shit. Don't forget that there are only 5 people who will get to meet fuwamoco one on one. They will remember those 5 for the rest of their lives.

https://x.com/holomeetxTPE24/status/1782379001576927238

>> No.74242036

Fuck EOPs

>> No.74242056
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most sane joshukun

>> No.74242084

>>74242015
May 11. I wonder if the week after golden week is busy because they are prepping for stuff for that day.

>> No.74242104

>>74242036
>Tells us to fuck off
>Posts it in english
Lmao

>> No.74242117

As someone who catches everything except fwmc morning and weekend streams as vods them streaming stuff in jp time might be a bit better for me. I don't fully get japanese but I can lean on the context, and hearing your oshi laugh and have fun is always good. Reminds me of going back to watching 2019 hololive. I also like the fwmc codeword/spell for vod watchers. People might think it's creepy, like they're keeping track on who watches the vods, but it feels like a nice intimate thing for vod watchers.

>> No.74242141

>>74242015
I see it as the opposite. There will be 5 chumbuds maybe not even from Taiwan that will get to meet Fuwamoco. Maybe memorable but not memorable for all the right reasons.

>> No.74242175

>>74242141
>There will be 5 chumbuds maybe not even from Taiwan that will get to meet Fuwamoco.
Isnt kami-bako taiwanese?

>> No.74242176
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>>74241926
I love my wives so much. I hope they're doing alright mentally, and IF YOU'RE HERE FUWAMOCO I LOVE YOU SO MUCH PLEASE LEAVE NOW!

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I like fuwamoco's streams, no longer feeling the GFE

>> No.74242221

Stop reading this, Mococo, only the truly insane like me are still here.

>> No.74242229

>>74242015
you can still pick more than 1? I fucking hate this shit

>> No.74242237

>>74242180
dumbass, they already left for Japan.

>> No.74242257
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if you are whoreing yourself
do not click on this part of shioris members stream

>> No.74242259

FuwaMoco if you're reading this, you should make it up to us by saying "we love you!" more. At least at the end of mengen streams

>> No.74242268

>>74241775
>accidentally

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>>74242083
Based Joshu, I'm also excited for Friday

>> No.74242295

>>74242221
This, I dont even see gorillas post anymore

>> No.74242298

FuwaMoco if you're reading this, hello.

>> No.74242307

>>74242015
JESAS

>> No.74242318

Just when I thought I'd found women I could love and trust. That understood us...

>> No.74242379

How much sleep are they getting tonight?

>> No.74242382

>>74242257
So I should go member up and click on that stream?
Why are women so confusing?

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>>74242199
>no longer feeling the GFE
I felt it yesterday and it made things even harder. Going this path might be for the best but I dunno if I can do it

>> No.74242449

>>74242379
I would sleep well if I knew I could cry a bit and collect a couple thousand

>> No.74242456

>>74242257
I'm not paying to watch a woman talk about her sex life

>> No.74242460

>Ruffian: -_-
>Ruffian Japan: ^o^

>> No.74242481

>>74242382
>I should go member up
no
I said that for people who already have all membership just to supor the holos but never watch it

>> No.74242510

>>74242379
9 hours. The hard part of having to talk to us is over. Now they collect checks and live their dream with their real fans (themselves and numbers)

>> No.74242512

>>74242199
Having an argument while she cries and communicates something poorly is peak GFE

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I don't think it's a coincidence that ruffians and joshukuns look similar

>> No.74242569

>>74242481
Ah well my Fuwamoco membership is set to expire in a few days so maybe I'll give Shiori a chance.

>> No.74242629

>>74242569
She's very passionate about streaming and creating novel content, unlike fuwamoco. I think you'll have a good time. She's unapologetically honest too. Her and biboo are a legendary pair, depending on what your mood is.

>> No.74242649

>communicate regularly with jp ruffians during your en streams, more so than jp holomems interact with their kaigainiki fans
>any jp ruffian that comments in chat is almost guaranteed read by fuwawa every single time
>jp ruffians send supas and are given one-on-one interactions with fuwamoco
>"we really want to reach out to jp ruffians... we want them to feel included. it feels like they don't even know who we are!"

>> No.74242719

>>74242649
>vod ruffians ask for a scrap token blanket message, laugh in their face
>finally after months of asking, relent as a pity favor when you've completely slammed the Ruffians who stuck with you
They couldn't be clearer who they really care about. And it's not us.

>> No.74242724

>>74242512
this anon is 100% correct. Last night was the most GFE thing I've felt like they've done in ages. The miscommunication snow balling into a big argument because it allows for suppressed feelings to rush out. All for it then to get resolved when you both realise you had the wrong end of the stick and that you didn't want to hurt each other. The only thing it was missing for true GFE was the extremely lovey dovey make up sex session after.

>> No.74242727

>>74242629
Nah nevermind, I'm not interested

>> No.74242750

>>74242629
Neat.
I keep getting her shorts in my feed, so I've been checking her out on and off since Fuwamoco announced their move.

>> No.74242821

>>74242649
Forgot
>every tweet in japanese mentioning them is liked, without fail

>> No.74242831

>>74242176
BAU BAU

>> No.74242879

>>74242724
>>74242512
People weren't ready for the true gfe

>> No.74242911

>>74242724
>The only thing it was missing for true GFE was the extremely lovey dovey make up sex session after.
Those are always the best
Just absolute hot, sweaty passionate sex

>> No.74242923

>>74242257
I don't see the problem

>> No.74242928

>>74242724
But we haven't reached the part where we both get caught with egg on our face because of miscommunication. Unfortunately most Ruffians who were upset or confused posted something in the VoD comments, but they haven't said anything yet, so we're sitting here holding the stick alone.
I can get why they didn't want to get into it on FWMC morning, but tonight we'll see.

>> No.74242964

>>74242923
anon, she was being very cute

>> No.74242984

>>74242649
>>jp ruffians send supas and are given one-on-one interactions with fuwamoco
there are plenty of noneop gaijins who send supas to jp holomems in japanese, and they are read.

>> No.74243017

JP fans don't deserve any more than they already have, that is the truth. 40+ members they can watch in their own language instead of fwmc. They can fuck off.

>> No.74243029

>>74242176
Usotsuki...

>> No.74243050

>>74242257
what did she have to say

>> No.74243071
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Mokoekoe mention on shiori's stream

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>> No.74243101

Apologies in advance to the other Advent fanbases who are about to take on some schizo whiny manchildren

>> No.74243103

shiori likes mococo manipulations.... foreigners, our response?

>> No.74243113

>>74242984
That doesn’t happen as often as you think it does like with FuwaMoco and JPniki

>> No.74243120

>>74243017
desu if you choose fuwamoco out of all ENs but hate JPs and idol stuff you can fuck off too

>> No.74243168

>>74243120
You don’t choose your oshi

>> No.74243178

>>74242649
I feel like I've seen this before with someone else luckily minus the last part

>> No.74243190

>>74242649
>>"we really want to reach out to jp ruffians... we want them to feel included. it feels like they don't even know who we are!"
Honestly? I feel like this quote coming from them is simply them coping. I genuinely think they're confused about why they seem to have so few JP ruffians, so they think it's cause they don't know them. Th
They don't seem to realize that the JPbros DO know them. I would say theyre EXTREMELY well known to them, moreso than most EN girls. The JPs just won't ever stick around if 99% of the content is in English.
At most, JPs will see a clip, tweet, "FWMC are so cute," then move on to their actual oshis.

>> No.74243221

FWMC are just Rushia 2.0x2

>> No.74243240

>>74242964
that I can agree with

>> No.74243252

>>74243168
Yes you do. They told you what they are about within the first hour, before you really fell for them for good, while you were still only intrigued.
Don't pretend otherwise. You could have jumped ship right then, you didn't, live with it.

>> No.74243268

holy shit shiori is cute

>> No.74243272

>>74243101
Hey don't you apologize to my new oshi like that

>> No.74243280

>>74243252
>Yes you do
No you don’t

>> No.74243301

>>74243252
No, you don't.

>> No.74243326

>>74243252
idiot

>> No.74243329

>>74243252
>Yes you do
nope

>> No.74243341

>>74243113
depends on a holomem. jp also has plenty of taiwanese/korean viewers and they send supas to holomems frequently

>> No.74243346

>>74243280
Read the rest of the post to understand that yes, you still had a choice back then.
Otherwise you might as well argue brats have a right to now be sad over male collabs when she made that clear 30 mins into her debut.

>> No.74243364

>>74243221
Will we get dog collars instead of wedding rings?

>> No.74243379

>>74243190
jps side chicks...

>> No.74243388

>>74243190
You'd think they would know after seeing that lesson first hand twice now. But third time will be the charm. Not even being in hololive will make JP fans like EN content. They see them as a cute novelty and appreciate them in collabs but won't be loyal at all or nearly as dedicated as EN fans are to EN vtubers.

>> No.74243403

>>74243221
They aren't secretly married and they aren't actually all-in on GFE, so no they aren't anything like her

>> No.74243416

>>74243329
>>74243326
>>74243301
>>74243280
>FWMC debut starts
>20 mins later it becomes obvious they are ultra weebs who want to be JP idols
>"damn I don't like this, oh well too late, they are already my KAMIOSHIS. Can't do anything but complain and shitpost forever now. "

This is you

>> No.74243453

>>74243416
Retard

>> No.74243463

>>74243416
you're a retard

>> No.74243486

>Y-You don't choose your oshi but you can choose to drop them and immediately oshi someone else
L

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>>74243416
You dense dumb motherfucker

>> No.74243508

>>74243190
I just don't get why they would think they really need to fauster a JP fanbase so badly that it's an important part of the conversation last night. Just say you're going to be doing a bunch of JP collabs in the near future and end it there. The usual suspects will show up to their JP solo streams, but the VoD count and general CCV will get hit pretty hard. Casual fans who buy merch, show up/watch VoDs when they can, and donate occasionally won't watch Japanese streams.

>> No.74243520

>>74243486
>strawman

>> No.74243570

>>74243503
>>74243463
>>74243453
Sorry you got exposed, mongrels. You had a very easy choice way back at the very start already, you could have dropped them before even really picking them up at all.
But go on, keep antiposting them over them doing exactly what everyone understood they would do long ago already: Realizing their JP idol dreams.

>> No.74243580

>>74242649
true and dare I say, baused

>> No.74243590

>we want to bring Japan to YOU
>alienate EN as soon they arrive Japan
>whole ass week of getting to know jp
LMAO

>> No.74243601

>>74242257
>Whoring
You can remove the e.

>> No.74243602

>>74243508
It should be telling that there were essentially no JP fans in the entire stream. They don't care. If Mr Paradise announced a switch to full EN streams you can bet EN fans would flood that chat in excitement.
It was a wet fucking fart because JP doesn't give a single fuck about outsiders, them included. Moving there doesn't change that. They are fat pigs with how many amazing JP senpai there are, fuwamoco are just a cute side trick if they're bored.

>> No.74243607

>>74243520
See you in Shiori's chat

>> No.74243616

These dumb transracial dogs are digging themselves into a hole they can't get out of.

>> No.74243658

>>74242176
This whole pledge and protecting smile bit really backfired for them. They wouldn't get this much backlash if they were less parasocial like Fauna or Bae.

>> No.74243665

>>74243607
I'm there now. cheering her on to 500k subs!

>> No.74243693

I feel like when Fuwawa? said something about it being rough when you're surrounded by mean people she was absolutely talking about here.

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>>74243252
>>74243416
>>74243486
>>74243590
t.

>> No.74243813

>>74243751
Why would I be a sister for mocking retards who now complain over them doing holo idol stuff?

>> No.74243815

Princess Shiori...

>> No.74243826

>>74243658
go back to your nijis

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>> No.74243830

efficiency. Even wapanese who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a Japanese man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your maple syrup.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your manesan will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your canadian birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a canadian is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably white.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>> No.74243839

it's bauver

>> No.74243880

When are the threads going to slow back down?

>> No.74243887

>>74243827
バウバウ

>> No.74243906

>>74243827
バウバウ

>> No.74243916

>>74243693
Don’t let her find out some of her regulars are posters /here/

>> No.74243936

>>74243508
Yeah pretty much. Unfortunately they've ALWAYS treated JP streams as if they "aren't real streams." Even if quite a few ruffians can speak JP, they still act as if none of them will be there.
They treat JP streams like tourist traps, in a sense. Bring in JPs who will eventually become ruffians. It never really works. At most, they end up with a couple JPs who stick around, but the vast majority sub and leave.
It's genuienly not a good way of reaching one million, imo. I guess we'll see next week, though. For their sake, I REALLY hope Golden Week is successful cause God they'll be so menhera if they did all this only to result in fucking nothing.

>> No.74243939

>>74243830
weird post

>> No.74243944

>>74243827
バウバウ
w

>> No.74243959

>>74243880
When doxsite goes back up

>> No.74244003

>>74243190
do you believe they dont know it? they are researcher type nerds like they know about super niche japanese things. they research fucking hard so they ofc know all of it. thats just their easy and neutral official statement. they want to stream in japanese so they just needed to clarify it to their eop fans.

>> No.74244019

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that mahjong shitters got BTFO last night

>> No.74244030

>>74243815
I don't think it fits very well.
Maybe that one guy should call her gorgeous and see what happens.

>> No.74244062

>>74243936
>I REALLY hope Golden Week is successful cause God they'll be so menhera if they did all this only to result in fucking nothing.
The odds of it going well are slim to none. Every JP senpai will be streaming with an established base. What holofans are there in JP that would choose them over someone they know? Unless they convince a senpai to stream on the fuwamoco channel in a collab instead of their own channel, they will get marginal growth.
It's a fucking doomed play and they are retards for even trying it. Of course they are going to cry when it fails even though it never had a shot of success.

>> No.74244063

Did we not already learn how trying to be a multilingual streamer plays out when Kiara did it

>> No.74244073

Fun conversation in the dick sword heh. Feels like a more "seiso" mirror to these threads. I guess it really is Ruffians and not all "sisters."

>> No.74244077

>>74243936
I will bot subs to 1m to avoid this

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>74243830
I assume every anti storming into this place since last night is this deranged and it makes their words easy to disregard. They'd like nothing more than for us to abandon FWMC and make their fears real. I'm not letting it get to me when they clearly love us and want to stay with us as much as possible as they achieve their dreams.

>> No.74244114

Really funny seeing the thread be completely dead but sisters still bumping with their attempts.
The (You) giveaway is over. Go home

>> No.74244119

>>74244063
Kiara selftranslated and spoke both in streams.
FuwaMoco are doing some JP only streams here and there and the majority will still be EN only.

>> No.74244134

>>74243827
バウバウ

>> No.74244154

>>74244073
It's a combination of mentally ill EOPs and sisters smelling blood in the water

>> No.74244175

>>74243388
They would need to go full on 100% jp streamers for jp viewers to come but I don't think they can even do that, contractually speaking I mean. Think about it, Cover hired them to be EN talents. The whole goal of HoloEN is to acquire and grow and international audience outside Japan so why would they hire EN talent and let them just stream for their already dominated and saturated market? So if FWMC even tried to commit to being 100% jp streamers it wouldn't be in Cover's best interest, it would be a 100% selfish choice by FWMC and who knows how Cover would react. Would they see it as a failed investment since they hired to grow the international audience? Maybe they don't care who knows. The point is that what they're doing right now will only hurt their current growth, their fanbase and it won't bring any tangible benefit. There's literally no positive for doing this.

>> No.74244208

>>74244119
>majority will still be EN only
dyrbi?

>> No.74244243

>>74244208
Yes I'm not retarded.
No, next week doesn't count.

>> No.74244365

>>74244175
The stupid thing is, they already fucked up a chunk of the hardcore fanbase as is apparent by all the VoD comments talking about being nervous or scared or having mixed feelings or cloudy thoughts about what they're doing.

>> No.74244374

>>74244208
No, they'll all be in tagalog soon.

>> No.74244379

>>74243936
They'll get some subs but theres no way they'll get regular viewers out of it. There's no reason for them to stay for longer than a week or two at most.

>> No.74244386

>>74243693
its kinda a relief then
it means she knows about sisters strategies

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gentlemen... im so sorry but their schedule for golden week leaked.

>> No.74244484

I don't give a fuck about Nijisanji but I can admit how much it sucks that the most pessimistic outlooks on the FWMC trajectory were correct. It was such a blast to have them stream so much HoloEN content last year, and it obviously wasn't going to last forever, but I thought we'd have at least another year before streams like Cookies and Cream or DKC became a rare treat rather than something to look forward to a couple times a week.

>> No.74244491

>>74244175
they dont care. are you a newfag. haachama was doing every kind of crap and cover didnt give a single fuck about her doing it except overly ero or guro stuff.

>> No.74244492

>>74244365
Yeah, it was a huge fucking yab the way they fumbled the talk. Thank christ it's a mengen, half surprised they didn't private the VOD even though that would make people go even crazier. If there were clips of it people would be going defcon 1

>> No.74244507

>>74243693
Like we've been saying. They're both /here/. The way they addressed the concerns over JP solo streams made it seem like they were DIRECTLY reading one of the many critical WALLs from the beginning of the year.

>> No.74244522

>>74244003
>doing something that is going to hurt some of your fans for no reason
that would be absolute retardation

>> No.74244546

They should have revealed the golden week schedule. Even if they can't talk about the homework and the future, showing the absolute worst week that makes them want to apologize would be a good frame of reference.

>> No.74244562

>>74244484
I'm very happy though, I love collabs with JP senpai.

>> No.74244570

>>74244522
well that's precisely what they did so...

>> No.74244571

>>74244475
>Jong
Fuck it, the sisters were right, it's literally never been more OVER.

>> No.74244616

>>74244475
holy kino

>> No.74244617

They were charging energy for nearly a year for their Woman Moment

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Feeling like shit tbqh

>> No.74244648

So what they want to come out of this is even more Japanese hieroglyphics to appear in their chat than there already are?

Fuck that shit, man. Nips have an 6 fucking gens + Regloss to choose whomever they want to watch from. If they want to speak to FuwaMoco, rely on MTLs or just learn English like those two other JP regular ruffians.

>> No.74244731

I have to laugh that they are promising they're investigating ways to make it easier for EOP. That was maybe the scariest part of all. It means JP streams are here to stay and will be a majority if they are making long term plans to add EN subs to streams.
>holoEN having a dedicated EN translator

>> No.74244741

I almost forgot last night’s stream was a battle plan where we went over their goals lol

>> No.74244780
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>>74244625
I've been in bed since FWMC morning, I just feel stressed out because it's impossible to tell how bad something actually is with these two. I hate women, I love them so much

>> No.74244803

>>74244546
all I can think of is they wanted to see the reactions before deciding how jp heavy it's going to be

>> No.74244828
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74244828

Why are they so obsessed with being Japanese?

>> No.74244830

>>74244522
if you are hurt by the statement you are just too sensitive and easily offended. they werent saying anything offensive.

>> No.74244851

>>74244780
the real gfe

>> No.74244881
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74244881

holoJPs should stream in English once a week and holoEN should stream in Japanese once a week

>> No.74244892

>I've heard your thoughts and am aware it will hurt you but I've decided to do it anyway
Sounds familiar...

>> No.74244898

wish they didnt make the stupid title "(dont worry)!"

>> No.74244919

the gfe holos, I would have it if not for those pesky jp ruffians!

>> No.74244948

>>74244898
at least we'll know in the future if the put don't worry in the title we should be panicking.

>> No.74244959

>>74244892
Ame....

>> No.74244966

I already have Lamy, I don't need another menhera JP GFE streamer. They are making a big mistake, the niche is saturated in JP.

>> No.74244973

>>74244828
Not sure but imagine bending over backwards for a people who can’t stand filthy gaijin and deciding to move to a country belonging to a people who can’t stand filthy gaijin

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>>74244625
I could hear Moco-chan sobbing in my sleep. I feel like utter shit, couldn't even muster comfort words for them because I know where we are headed.

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I seriously can't believe this

>> No.74245018

>>74244546
If it is a bunch of collabs with their JP senpais, it wouldnt be nice for them to leak it.

>> No.74245031

The best time to start your reps was when I told you to pre-debut. The second best time is now.

>> No.74245037

>>74244995
ew

>> No.74245054

Stop overreacting

>> No.74245064

What a week...

>> No.74245080

>>74244830
look around you, look at the vod

>> No.74245085

>>74244898
This is the equivalent to your girlfriend texting you, “can I ask you something?” or “can we talk? It’s not anything bad, I promise” and then they have a breakdown right in front of you over some cloudy feelings they’ve been having for awhile now but they’ve been worried over how to express those feelings to you without hurting you or changing the way you look at them
>t. been there

>> No.74245104

>>74245064
Captain it's only Monday..

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>>74245104

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Oh they at least liked it

>> No.74245170

>>74244625
Overly factual

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>>74244973
Fuwamoco are mentally ill and delusional in their desire to be Japanese and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. No Japanese man wants to watch Canadian white girls larping as their race. They will forever be white pigs and will never be Japanese.

>> No.74245179

>>74245018
they don't need to show names, hell they don't even need to show what they are doing, could just put en stream jp stream en stream or some shit like that

>> No.74245203

>>74245085
>can we talk?
I got knots in my stomach, never type that again. I don't even like hearing that from coworkers.

>> No.74245230

>>74245155
I've stopped calling them princesses. They'll have to earn that title back.

>> No.74245247

>>74244966
It's funny how everyone is freaking out this much when we're nowhere close to Lamy or Polka or Koyori menhera levels

>> No.74245250

>another earthquake hit taiwan
ah ruffians are you sure going there is safe?

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>>74244828
>>74244973
why do you keep posting this when any fan knows that they love japan and are in favor of the japanese xenophobia and knows they will never be japanese

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74245276

Relax faggots kek, you're taking it a bit too seriously.
You're seething like whores.
They haven't actually done anything wrong, it's just worse content and it hasn't even happened yet.

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>>74245174
They’ve even seemingly abandoned the idea of having idol concerts overseas in NA with Amer*ly by permanently moving to and living in Japan. Well at least that’s what’s assumed, they’ll likely touch basis on that Wednesday.

>> No.74245298

>>74245276
stfu chumbud

>> No.74245320

>>74245179
>jp collab
That's all it needed to say. But like another anon said, I'm sure they used the mem stream to adjust the quantities.

>> No.74245322

>>74245276
they lied though

>> No.74245324

>>74245031
It doesn't change much, theres a barrier for both sides.

>> No.74245330
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74245330

Based?

>> No.74245335

How long do we make it in today's stream until someone brings up the japan stuff in a SC or chat?

>> No.74245355

>>74245247
Kek, imagine how zookeepers felt when Chloe told them she was joining HZNTL with the homos.

>> No.74245359

>>74245203
>I don't even like hearing that from coworkers
HR calling you up because of yet another molestation allegation, huh?

>> No.74245375

>>74245330
Anyone that is giving their genuine feelings and not being an asshole about it is based

>> No.74245409

>>74244881
Really should, Polka doing an Among Us stream was English fans was aamzing and there should have more stuff like that.

A stream where Bijou Nerissa and Shiori completely butchering Japanese while trying to play some game would be Kino

>> No.74245485
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74245485

>WHITE PIGGU GO HOME
Is this what everything will boil down to? God damn gaijins

>> No.74245486

>>74245253
do you want to make me upload the ex-swede murasames images.

>> No.74245511

>>74245355
they shut down that doomed project real quick

>> No.74245587

>>74245486
kys inclusive equity shill
you are demons
also he will never be japanese
neither his kids

>> No.74245590

>>74243508
Also are they entertaining enough in JP to steal viewers from the extremely talented JP alternatives? I can't imagine ever oshiing someone who is ESL. Like I enjoy Kiara, but I'll always choose a native English option over her.

>> No.74245607

>>74245330
Well he's not being a cunt about it, so yeah. DLan just made a wall about it, too, btw

>> No.74245637

>>74245590
They just need dead subs

>> No.74245663

Honestly, if you have grievances and can air it in a non-cuntish way, you should do it now. They will take the feedback into account and adjust things accordingly.

>> No.74245688

>>74245355
blessed cover notes comments
best reading ever
do your reps with that

>> No.74245702

>>74245663
What if I want them to cry but don't want them to hate me?

>> No.74245706

How will they either directly/indirectly respond to VOD comments?

>> No.74245716

>>74244830
have you noticed where you are? who you are watching? if you watch them at all, the way they speak?

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>Sorry Wuffians. They said that we can be real Japanese Girls if we absorb a lot of Japanese DNA. HEHEHE
>I'm sorry waffians. We need to be Japanese to become Idols. UNNNN!!!

>> No.74245744

>>74244062
I wonder what their manager has said about it? I'm guessing they gave up trying to convince them not to do it. There's so much evidence this won't work.

>> No.74245752

I feel like I'm making too many assumptions and I've been rewriting my wall for hours. I'm not even looking at work DMs now, I'm so focused.

>> No.74245753

>>74245706
smoke messages

>> No.74245793

>>74245587
you just wish like that. whod give a fuck if fwmc became japanese. coco was american and none of jp viewers did give a fuck about her nationality. why would you give a shit bout fwmcs nationality. they are just vtubers with anime avatars.

>> No.74245808

>>74245706
why would they need to respond to them? they have already made their decision and it probably involves their senpai
just like their japan move nothing can change at the point of the announcement

>> No.74245820

>>74245744
If anything, it seems suzu-chan is frustrated they are not doing it quickly. I can kinda see why. Gotta strike while the iron is hot and the novelty factor is there.

>> No.74245865

>>74245793
you are the one saying they will become japanese and gives a fuck about it tho
there is nothing wrong with never becoming japanese

>> No.74245885

>>74244973
Just be a clean gaijin. It's not even hard.

>> No.74245896

The amount of people reading other people's VOD comments is kinda surprising

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>>74245732
STOOOOOP

>> No.74245926

>>74245808
I think it would be good to better explain themselves, making people wait an entire week with all the stress and anxiety doesn't seem like something they would want to do.

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It's kind of crazy, they were so good at dealing with doom schizos but suddenly they just break their streak.

>> No.74245986

>>74245896
a lot of people want to say something but don't have the balls or aren't eloquent enough so they need to look for someone else who does it

>> No.74245988

>>74245744
>I wonder what their manager has said about it?
Based on what they've said, she was REALLY frustrated that they've been holding back on the JP streams/collabs. I imagine she was the biggest reason why they decided to do Golden Week and focus on more JP content.
She wants them to reach 1 million, too.

>> No.74245991

>>74245931
??? Mococo IS the doomposter

>> No.74245994

>>74245931
That's because they dont fully believe in their own words

>> No.74246001

>>74245590
JPs won't and don't need to settle for crumbs. Even if they made a dedicated JP stream weekly, it wouldn't be enough to gather a sizable fanbase. Not when there's so much competition exclusively catering to JPs. You either go 100% Japanese, or you won't make it. Not when all the heavy hitters are on the JP side.

>> No.74246014

>>74245896
ruffians have created such a fucking hugbox around fuwamoco that they are checking comments to make sure it is okay to air their disappointment this time.

>> No.74246020

Any KFP bros here? How do you feel about FWMC's announcement? Is it kinda similar to stuff with Kiara back then?

>> No.74246038

>>74245896
It's cause people want to see if others feel the exact same way. As it turns out, MANY Ruffians feel the same way for the most part.

>> No.74246073

>>74246020
Go back and kys with your off topic bullshit

>> No.74246084

>>74246020
what happened with kiara?
I was focused on Gura and Ame early on

>> No.74246130

>>74246038
this is just another Thursday for any holofan, sucks to be a newfag, based FUWAMOCO gatekeepers.

>> No.74246131

Anyone else looking forward to the Japanese VCRkino?

>> No.74246146

>>74246014
I think most are too concerned with FuwaMoco's feelings imo. A lot of people really don't want to make them sad. I dont want to make them sad either, but the thing is they're ALREADY sad/menhera about this and there are at least a few things they DO need to hear - like for instance, they need to be more direct about things to clear up confusion cause they literally made everything worse by being autistic.

>> No.74246172

If Fuwamoco aren't going to stay loyal to their english fans, then i hope they don't expect me to stay loyal to them

>> No.74246191

>>74245663
What if I have no grievances other than them being really terrible at just stating or announcing things and I'm actually excited for all the upcoming JP collabs cause I like hololive?

>> No.74246195

https://streamable.com/o02a6c

>> No.74246212

>>74246172
They dont. They already said they understand if some of you will withdraw your support.

>> No.74246217

So what’s this about some code word? Is it just them saying something during stream and people commenting it in the comments? Sounds like a retarded clique idea

>> No.74246291

>>74246131
They would struggle to make friends in VCR

>> No.74246293

>>74246191
Thats a fair criticism. Put it there. Honestly, I think all the negative comments about JP streams since day 1 have been weighing on them and make them second-guess themselves. They are girls with very low self-confidence. It will be stuff they need to work on.

>> No.74246294

>>74246191
Then they weren't talking to you

>> No.74246308

You WILL pretend to be japanese.
You WILL good translate every post.
あなたは日本語を読むことを学びます
バウバウ

>> No.74246314

>>74245865
i dont even get what your point is. ive never said that. i just disagree with your shitty reddit view on japan. why would you be so obsessed with them liking japan? japanese must hate them, so do you want them to abandon japan and go back to canada? even though there have already been many translated fwmc clips and their jp streams gain many views.

>> No.74246315

>>74246217
this is the most baffling post amidst all the shitposting, absolutely astonishing, great job man

>> No.74246320

>>74246217
watch the mengen

>> No.74246322

>>74246146
>I think most are too concerned with FuwaMoco's feelings imo.
Can you fucking blame them when FuwaMoco kept sobbing and whimpering and crying all throughout the damn VOD, damn near on the verge of a breakdown over what was essentially a nothingburger? While you can praise those who are straightforward, you can’t really fault others from wanting to choose their own words carefully because these women are fucking menhera.

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>>74241926
Hey does anyone know the artist for this or have the fuwawa version? I remember seeing it but never saved it.

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>>74246351

>> No.74246428

>>74246322
you are also menhera

>> No.74246435

>>74246217
least obvious sister

>> No.74246444

>>74246322
>Can you fucking blame them
No kek I get it. These two are so emotional and vulnerable it makes sense that everyone will want to walk on eggshells about this.
I don't fault anyone for being cautious.

>> No.74246471

>>74246351
crap I meant of the face against glass picture, not the OP

>> No.74246482

>>74246293
I don't think they have low self confidence. They know this is unpopular but still want to do it. They are stubborn and ambitious. They're not as fragile as Mococo acts. They're just doing what they've seen polka etc do. The menhera act helps bond people to them. People like the ups and downs

>> No.74246498

>>74246384
now pull her a little closer and push her down

>> No.74246559

>>74246471
https://twitter.com/search?q=%401mymiya+%23fwmcpix&src=typed_query&f=top
i don't think there was a fuwawa version

>> No.74246561

>>74246322
it felt like they were putting down their very sick cat

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>>74246314
I believe you are confused

>> No.74246706

I hope chat teaches them all the inventory tricks in minecraft. It drives me nuts seeing some vtubers waste so much time fumbling around with their items.

>> No.74246709

Everyone wants to be a japanese high school girl but thats not relevant

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>> No.74246763
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So what now? Will they address it during the SC reading tonight?

>> No.74246769

>>74246131
I would drop them.

>> No.74246785

>>74246706
>they actually learn the game on their own and pick up all the basics
>people tell them all the helpful basic tricks for inventory management, shortcuts, crafting and such
I can only dream

>> No.74246803

>>74246709
I want to be a japanese janitor who doubles as a rapist

>> No.74246811

>>74246763
They wont let member streams affect non-member content. Is just not how it works.

>> No.74246834

>>74246291
could you imagine. they decide to do vcr for a week and it is just the halloween minecraft collab 7 times.

>> No.74246874

>>74246811
they'll have to when I drop a pink asking about it

>> No.74246884

>>74246803
I want to believe you can rape me anon, I want to believe we can become japanese

>> No.74246886
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My Mocosama

>> No.74246913

>>74246763
No, I think they are pretty dead set on their JP audience blitzkrieg to 1 million strategy now.

>> No.74246927

>>74246763
No. Unless someone brings it up in a supa tonight.
At most, they'll make a membership post addressing the concern and clearing up any confusion. I doubt they'll do that, though. Mane-chan probably read the VOD comments and will bar them from addressing it cause she'll probably worry that they'll cancel half of their GW streams

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>>74246729
I love you, Mococo. Please get some rest.

>> No.74246960

>>74246874
Please do. I want you guys to pressure them on this. They need to remember they're in the English branch.

>> No.74246992

what does the P in EOP/JOP stand for?

>> No.74246993

>>74244830
I'm not hurt by jp streams, I'm hurt by the vagueness, half-truths, broken promises and them doomposting on stream

>> No.74247005

>>74246992
penis

>> No.74247007

>>74246992
penis

>> No.74247017

>>74246992
penis

>> No.74247062

>>74246992
Pero

>> No.74247069

>>74244995
Hot!

>> No.74247080

>>74247062
kimoi

>> No.74247082

>>74246960
Why dont you do it yourself? Too poor?

>> No.74247090

>>74246992
Penis

>> No.74247092

>>74246992
Pau pau!

>> No.74247100
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74247100

>>74247005
>>74247007
>>74247017

>> No.74247110

>>74246960
you smell like a sister
>>74247005
>>74247007
>>74247017
gay

>> No.74247138

>>74246992
Pussy

>>74247005
>>74247007
>>74247017
Can you guys stop thinking about dick for ONE thread?

>> No.74247148

>>74246628
im not confused. you just want fwmc to stop from being japanese or living in japan because japanese are evil, while im saying your reddit view of japan sucks shit and dont give a shit about such an irl thing. and like i said not only me but also most japanese viewers dont give a shit about fwmcs roommates race or heritage. nobody gave a fuck about cocos nationality and her american characteristics.

>> No.74247180

>>74247138
no

>> No.74247229

>>74247148
esl

>> No.74247242

Every time I watch something in Japanese I remember Japan's war crimes.

>> No.74247270

Reading some of the more negative comments, I don't think there's anything wrong with them, but I'm still personally not a fan of giving this kind of feedback. Not even because of making them sad or whatever, they're strong enough to handle feeling sad. What really stings to me is when I imagine them listening to that feedback. They say "ok, we'll follow you", and from now every new full EN schedule we get you KNOW they wish it wasn't like this.
I don't want that. I'd rather get filtered and leave in silence to find a better place for me than have someone be miserable for my sake. It's too depressing.
If they made an announcement they knew would disappoint a lot of people, that made them so nervous they cried a shitload while making it, then they REALLY want that to happen. They wouldn't do this just for fun. Since it happened, they can't go back, things would never be the same.
The only way I want them to give up on this and go back is if they don't get jackshit from appealing to JOPs and regret wasting their time, then I'll gladly go back to how it was, because when the full EN schedule comes out, they'll be thinking that this is what they should always have done, not wishing it wasn't like this.
Just my perspective, since I keep seing people calling those who aren't giving negative thoughts cowards or whatever. I want them to pursue their dreams, always. If I feel like I'm no longer welcome on this journey, then I'll leave, but I'll hope they keep going.

>> No.74247271

>>74246559
shit, thanks anyways. At least I can finally follow that artist properly now.
>>74246763
Unlikely. They only poured their hearts out like that during members stream for members and gotta keep up the cheery kayfabe for regular users.

>> No.74247315

>>74247270
>they're strong enough
Barely

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04.22.24 episode 88. Pekora needs to stop streaming when FuwaMoco streams.

>Hello haro babau~
>Hello hello baby!
>Fluffy morning purifies everything
>fuwamo code word
>special guest
>Koyori Natto
>Fuwamoko-chan likes watermelon games
>Natto time!
>Mokochan suddenly has a straight face
>Detawa na natto
>It’s MokoNATTO time today!
>Types of natto. Other than sticky natto, I only know amanatto...
>[response to above] There is black basedbean natto.
>Moko-chan, how does authentic natto taste?
>Today's dog collie is fluffy, friendly, and cute when she plays with him.
>Good morning good night~
>Fluffy! ?
>Why did you choose to raid Mikochi?
>BAUBAU intrusion
>Fuwamoko Yori made me raid the most disgusting place...
>Mikochi is confused by the fluffy raid.
>Raid in Holo is rare
>[response to above] EN does it often.
>EN raids all the time, but I feel like it's quite rare to give it to JP.
>I absolutely love fluffy stuff
>If I were to say whether I liked Fluffy or not, it would be my favorite genre of games...
>Fluffy is a tough guy who has experienced even worse things...
>I want JP to take note of this and make raids popular.
>I wonder if it wouldn't be awkward for twins to play erotic games?
>[response to above] In fact, they even learned Japanese through erotic games.
>To be able to go in front of Fuwamoko...Mikochi is so proud.
>There is also a theory that Fuwawa is trying to lower the hurdles for herself by showing an old man at the lowest level.
>Well, Fuwamoko isn't some creepy sexually harassing old man...
>When Fuwamoko does live commentary for this game for overseas audiences, they have to verbally translate each line, so you have no choice but to watch it.

>> No.74247343

>>74247271
they liked a bunch of tweets leaking mengen content so it's possible

>> No.74247365

>>74247148
so you just want to steal them for your own so you can dispose of them after you get bored

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>Another jp stream

>> No.74247385

>>74247315
But they are. If they took the Low Tier God speech from people they admired in real life, they can handle youtube avatars treating them with kiddie gloves.

>> No.74247451

>>74246561
I'm catching up on the VOD right now and it's so fucking weird... Mococo was crying right after announcing the golden week thing. There wasn't even any backlash from chat at that point. No edgy SCs. Only headpat spam.
They could've easily sold this as a cool themed week, full of fun collabs with JP senpais.
Instead they acted like it's a fucking funeral - 10 days of grief we have to suffer through to reach one mil. No wonder Ruffians are going menhera.

>> No.74247517

>>74247451
shadow suspension by nijiagents

>> No.74247555

>>74247451
The crying fucked it from the start. She rolled a critical miss 1 and just ruined it kek

>> No.74247577

>>74247451
That's because Mococo know what's on the schedule and (You) don't.

>> No.74247597

>>74247555
she only did it because Fuwawa took care of her
the coy lady took advantage of her bad times

>> No.74247601

>>74247451
Both of these girls are genuienly worried about losing some of the EN fans they've built up over the last 8 months.
They literally mentioned mane-chan getting mad at them for holding back on JP streams. They've been concerned about this for a long time. Honestly, waiting this long has made it worse for any of the fans critical of their actions right now and they both know this.

>> No.74247691

>>74247555
the whiplash from a nice calm check in on their goals to mococo crying as they try making excuses for jp streams was fucking mind boggling. i don't think i've seen the mood of a stream change so quickly and so out of nowhere before.

>> No.74247706

>>74247601
I've posted that they should hug mane-chan before but I regret it. She doesn't get hugs after pushing them to this

>> No.74247725

I love cookies so much

>> No.74247753

>>74247725
Back again for more cookies huh Fatfuck? Jesus Christ you're fat.

>> No.74247758

>>74247601
>join in EN gen
>stream in japanese
no wonder mane is pissed

>> No.74247815

>>74247758
No, she's pissed about the literal OPPOSITE. She wants them to do more JP stuff.

>> No.74247846

>>74247691
Mococo was probably crying nonstop due to the migraine and denpagumi so she was ready to burst at any moment

>> No.74247860

>>74247758
Mane-chan wants them to stream in Japanese though.

>> No.74247866

>>74247577
Nothing on there would make me sad unless it's a collab which men which I doubt

>> No.74247882

>mane chan steps in and forces them to do more japanese streams
>views are shit
>no significant gain in subs from them
>go back to english fans
>many filter out and don't come back
>number of people watching hits an all time low
>superchats drop significantly
>fuwamoco are left with a withered fanbase and no clear path for growth
>their manager gets a promotion and dumps the problem on to whoever replaces her
Remember, Holo managers have proven time and again they have no qualms sabotaging talents because they are never held responsible for it.

>> No.74247887

suzuchan needs a good plapping

>> No.74247898

>>74246834
Yeah it would absolutely end with them in tears like Fubuki who also flopped in VCR. You need to be much more flexible and open to do well with VCR, especially as a non-native speaker. Also there is the weird thing of two voices coming out of one character. They need to allow people to be friends with one of them without having to always be with both of them.

>> No.74247899

>another Silly Strawberry WALL
Jesus dude how many times are you gonna go back and forth on this?

>> No.74247900

>>74247758
Their manager is a Japanese hag named suzu chan, anon

>> No.74247930

>>74247899
they seem unironically schizophrenic

>> No.74247965

>>74247882
it was their decision though

>> No.74247971

>>74247343
Well yeah they're going to have to break the news eventually, at least before golden week.

>> No.74248017

>>74247971
>kino rock n rawr party
>suddenly mococo starts crying
>golden week schedule drop
>tears as the stream end card comes up suddenly
I am thinking she is going to fuck this up a second time isn't she?

>> No.74248020

>>74247899
he's pretty dedicated for a gifted new member

>> No.74248044

>>74247965
Shit ton of holos suffer from their mane-chans. Lamy, Nene, IRyS etc

>> No.74248079

>>74247898
>in tears like Fubuki
when was that? I only ever saw her cry when Coco graduated. Not even for Mel, at least not publicly.

>> No.74248118

>>74247971
>>74248017
Well they'll get a second wave of concerned comments. Only this time, it'll be completely public.
I'm sure they're a bit nervous about it, especially if they're reading the mengen VOD comments.

>> No.74248130

>>74247898
fubukis ccv just isnt stable. if anything her average ccv is becoming higher. she used to struggle with getting 15k-20k views but she often does nowadays. also whod be surprised about her doing a homocollab today.

>> No.74248133

>>74247898
>Fubuki
Fubuki or botan?

>> No.74248136

>>74248017
She will cry harder because they've seen the uneasiness of the Doggy Pack, and they are supposed to be the ones they confide it and lean on. Telling the non-membered fans who have less attachment is going to be harder.

>> No.74248168

>>74248079
Fubuki did cry in the mel announcement

>> No.74248220

>>74248136
>Telling the non-membered fans who have less attachment is going to be harder.
Nah, is easier. Casuals just dont care and will watch if they like the content and is comfortable for their timezone. The hardest ones are long-term members because there is a gap in expectations.

>> No.74248224

>>74247601
It's funny how similar this all is to White Album. Mane-chan (Yayoi) complaining about Fuwamoco not wanting to disappoint their boyfriend (EN Ruffians) and wanting them to put their career first. The only thing missing is Mane-chan creating a channel to seduce EN ruffians away from Fuwamoco.

>> No.74248311

Their crying episode last night made me want to fuck their brain’s out

>> No.74248322

>>74248224
>The only thing missing is Mane-chan creating a channel to seduce EN ruffians away from Fuwamoco.
Don't worry, that's the next step in suzu-chan's master plan.

>> No.74248339

>>74248224
>he didn't get the suzu-chan dm

>> No.74248386

Manechan just kissraped me

>> No.74248401

>>74247270
>The only way I want them to give up on this and go back is if they don't get jackshit from appealing to JOPs and regret wasting their time, then I'll gladly go back to how it was
That sounds like you'll give up on them if they succeed and consider yourself the "second option"

>> No.74248441

>>74248401
If they succeed they'll never stream in EN again, so of course?

>> No.74248479
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>>74248386
Give her the dick wuffian, she really needs it badly.

>> No.74248524

>>74248401
Their drem is the first option. If I still feel welcome as they walk towards it, then I'll gladly be there. But I absolutely do not want them settling for less for my sake. Their ambition is a key part of why I decided to follow them on debut. If they abandon that just to give me content that makes me feel cozy, that's no longer the people who became my oshi. I would be looking at more blatant GFE corpos if that's what I wanted, I wouldn't be looking for an idol.

>> No.74248552

>>74248441
They won't stop but the % won't be 95% EN anymore. Sucks for everyone heavily invested into them though

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Do you guy even casuals would go nuclear if they ever got officially transfered to holoJP?
Would it tarnish their reputation or would they be celebrated?

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>>74248311
>ywn wipe Mococo's tears away
>ywn tell her not to worry
>ywn tell her you love her again and again and again
>ywn pepper her cheek and lips with kisses
>ywn interlock your fingers with hers
>ywn do this all while hilted inside her

>> No.74248613

Gotta say, I'm surprised by you, Ruffians. I was one of the ones saying you "wouldn't say shit" and that none of the paypigs/cliquefags are against this or critical at all. I got thoroughly btfo'd reading through the comments. Sure some are from brand new accounts, but most of those seem to be obvious alts. A LOT of prominent names have said something in the VOD comments, and some even said stuff behind the scenes in the twitter discord(like atm, and a few others).
I dont feel like shitposting, so I'll just say I genuinely hope everything works out for you all and for FuwaMoco.

>> No.74248637

pretending to be japanese = perfect
actually trying to become japanese = grim

>> No.74248675
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>>74248224
It's the notebook. In order for them to reach their full potential, we have to let go of each other. And even if at the end, after everything is done, we end up together, we'll just cuddle and die, because we wasted our whole lives chasing that high.
They saw themselves in the at the time unannounced Japan Move, and that's why they hated Allie. They're no longer entirely sure if their dream is worth the cost, they're now being asked to sacrifice too much.
I'll be waiting for our final dance.

>> No.74248677

>>74248574
They're the only reason I'm even watching Holo EN so it's whatever

>> No.74248681

>>74248136
I think the opposite actually. The casual fans don't give a shit if it's 4 or 12 streams a week and just show up when they want since they have lives outside of vtubers.

>> No.74248682

>>74248574
Most "casuals" watch multiple holos and only show up for big/fotm streams. The ones who will go nuclear are the slightly more dedicated fans. Basically the ones who show up for every stream.

>> No.74248771

hi

>> No.74248798

>>74248771
herro everynyan

>> No.74248812

>>74248771
hi

>> No.74248819

>>74248798
KAGE

>> No.74248879

>you HAVE to feel negative about them collabing more with JP senpais okay, you just have to
>please

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74248883

>>74247451
>Mococo was crying right after announcing the golden week thing.
Cycle moment

>> No.74248882

>>74248613
Nearly all of them are supportive though?

>> No.74248911

>>74248675
This post is gayer than actual gay sex

>> No.74248942

>>74248882
Supportive yes. I just wasn't expecting ANY criticism or people being openly worried at all.

>> No.74248973

>>74248879
They WILL off-collab with Mio and eat her karaage and they will LIKE IT

>> No.74248974

>>74248637
This is such a silly post but I get it and agree with it 100%.

>> No.74248989

>>74248613
the clique and paypigs are overwhelmingly positive on the vod. But, the same people are seething on discord and untagged twitter. I don't think either approach is wrong, they want us to be excited for them.

>> No.74248991

>Koyo has a morning stream after the collab too
Yobai bros, the sleepover dream is done for

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>>74247882
they do hire retarded liars as managers in the japanese way

>> No.74249031

So uh, good thing that anti SC didn't get sent in prechat I guess? schizo was a prophet

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>>74248991
I believe in the lesbian coyote hag, she will find a way to have sex with them

>> No.74249060

>>74248973
I haven't done my reps so im going to assume the best case scenario and you meant bush

>> No.74249065

>>74248991
She should've invited FWMC to asakoyo for a super collab

>> No.74249081

>>74248991
They'll be performing yobai live on stream during FWMC morning, why else would koyo be a guest?

>> No.74249083

Is screencapping the only way to preserve the walls and comments in the members vod? Adding to my folders.

>> No.74249098

>>74248989
If you're sad, then be sad in front of them too.
If you're happy, then be happy in front of them too.

Nothing is more pathetic than pretending to be something else when they see it and then acting another way elsewhere. That's scummy either way.

>> No.74249115

Will Cover let an official unit of Koyori, FWMC and Biboo be called Yobai Party? Would be kino if they got a sexy sounding original song

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>>74249060
no i mean her homecooked food

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>>74246131
w-why are people replying to this seriously...

>> No.74249155

>>74248879
I never felt negative about it, I'm simply curious what the days after GW will look like.
If they genuinely decide to do a jp solo stream once a week, I'll simply have to decide whether I actually take my reps seriously for once or if I disassociate and take steps to no longer be a gachikoi for them since I don't want to feel retarded FOMO and I don't want to start menheraposting.
I won't say anything publicly, though. I'll keep my membership cause it's not that much money at all. I'll just quietly disappear so no one notices.

>> No.74249162

>>74248882
If you read between the lines they aren't 100% supportive as they usually would be.

>> No.74249176

>>74248942
>I just wasn't expecting ANY criticism or people being openly worried at all.
Like I said, they have a better read on the fanbase than all of us. They know there WILL be people who are critical of this decision because they have been receiving comments or see anti-JP stuff in chat before.

>> No.74249192

Sorry but I'm intensely disappointed, I honestly couldn't even figure out what the planning was here, seemed like it was all buildup to say you wanted to break into the JP market, which considering how many JP talents exist, and that you also say barely know you seems like a idea that you didn't exactly think through, why are you set on alienating your current fans for a market that doesn't know you? You cannot please everyone this way, I can see the value in Collab's and wanting to flex your JP skills, I know you want to break out and do more things you find fun and help you grow, but it feels like you're pushing your old fan base away for the new, you're willing to take these drastic measures to grow comes across as just seeing a lot of fans as numbers. And like the goal is more important than what you've cultivated here. And frankly it hurts me quite a bit, maybe it wasn't your intention to come across that way but that is how I feel, right or wrong. I wanna see you grow, be happy, do things you love, make new friends. But this attempt at growing and audience that is already stuffed full of talents is misguided and I don't think this was thought through very well, I think all its accomplished is making people worried and stressed and feel like 'lesser' fans. ut no matter how that turns out or how this comment seems I want you both to know I do care for you, you're fun, sweet, hardworking, and clearly you care a lot, but you gotta decide what you want or you'll never be content. I won't say farewell, because maybe my feelings will reach you and you can at the very least understand how some of us feel, but if not that's fine as well, but I can't pretend, that's not something you do to those you care about. But this division in the fanbase is going to alienate someone. I hope you still want people like us around, but if not well I can't and won't stop you, but I can't be a part of it either, If that becomes the case. I love love love you girls, I really really do, you've helped me through some of my toughest and ruffest times and I truly hope you can get better at either communicating your decisions properly or making firm choices about what you want. Even if you don't see this. But for now, I'm going to take a break, collect myself and my feelings and wait and watch, I've always been waiting for you since I found you. And I hope fate decides to bring us together again. I love you Fuwawa and Mococo. If you read this at all, thank you for listening to my worries and I hope they are totally unfounded.

>> No.74249209

I'll be the final gachikoi and be the only one sending love messages

>> No.74249216

>>74249155
That's so silly to me. A single JP stream per week that might just be 1 hour of them playing 2hu or a zatsu about natto and okonomiyaki and you'd stop being gachikoi for them or go menhera over FOMO?
Man.

>> No.74249230

>>74249162
kek thats schizo

>> No.74249249

>>74249192
Too many words

>> No.74249280

>>74248017
this is the post out of the thread that's ruined my day. I'm fine with the jp streams and collabs since I was learning the language before them anyway. I think they went about telling us the wrong way, but what's done is done now. But the thought of having the RnR party next week and having them stressing out about releasing the new schedule and the same for us in the know. I don't want to hear them crying again, it breaks my heart.

>> No.74249295

imagine not loving your oshi enough to learn the language they are interested in so you can participate in their hobbies

>> No.74249301

>>74249192
>I've always been waiting for you since I found you
I started and stopped reading here. Thank you anon. I agree.

>> No.74249317

>>74249083
ytdlp has --write-comments but you most likely will get a json file out of it and will need to parse it to make it look "pretty"
You can inject your cookies to access the members content.

>> No.74249363

>>74248991
I want the yobai to be real
too bad the thread will be unusable

>> No.74249426

>>74249216
>That's so silly to me.
It is, that's why I said I'm gonna wait and see how things are first. They said streams will slow down in May while also saying they want to do more JP content to reach 1 million. that means if they do only 3 streams a week, it'll be 2 EN one JP. I never had an issue with monthly jp solo streams or collabs, but weekly is something I just don't want to deal with in all honesty.
I said I'll simply make a choice, that's all. I don't want to be hyper-attached to them if the result is FOMO. They deserve better than that, and I'd rather not hold them back or anything. I'm not gonna pretend this isnt absolutely retarded, anon.

>> No.74249436

>>74249192
HOLY WALL

>> No.74249440

>>74248017
>they sing secret base after crying
Might actually have me cry more than during this moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvvMVwjMhwo

>> No.74249450

>>74249295
It would be different if we were actually having sex. Then I'd be willing to learn.

>> No.74249464

>>74249295
they joined hololive english tho

>> No.74249479

>>74249440
a nijisister

>> No.74249512

>>74249464
you knew what they were about when they debuted, don't act like this is a new development

>> No.74249528

>>74247270
I used to be a big fan of them, even sent them superchats mostly in orange, pink and red when something big happened. But, man, there was just too much Japanese for me. So, I quietly left, and I'm happier now. Not having high expectations toward someone actually feels so much better.

>> No.74249545

>>74249479
Anon sisters would hate her, but I don't expect you to understand

>> No.74249549

>>74249464
Anon, IRyS's bday live is in JP and on JP prime time. The precedents are all there.

>> No.74249564

>>74249479
Lulu is one of the few nijis that were decent.

>> No.74249580

>>74249528(me)
Also I am gay.

>> No.74249606

>>74249564
I know but his intent is to spread niji mindshare like a bot he is

>> No.74249604

>>74249512
they didn't say majority of streams would be JP-focused

>> No.74249621

>>74249280
desu I'm just going to leak it on an alt in prechat if they don't mention it by that stream start, fuck it

>> No.74249630

is the average ruffian really this purist? you all seem to absolutely hate their jp streams and demand they should cater only to westerners.

i wouldnt care even if 30% of their streams were in japanese, 50% would be still acceptable given their absolute weeabooness but it seems it has to be under 5% among ruffians here. in the first place, they arent even normal weebs. their weeaboo level is absolutely overwhelming and insane. they are like lv 999 warriors with the strongest and rarest weapon and armor in an rpg game and you rarely see such legendary gigantic weebs even on a weeb site. cant you let them do whatever they want?

>> No.74249657

I honestly don't even really know what to say about all this. The one things that's extremely clear is that they need to communicate better because they have essentially created their own rrat and left it to fester till after golden week. Besides that I feel they are at this very convoluted crossroads where they need to reevaluate their goals, dreams, ect. They've reached a level of success that one can honestly call "making it" and now are presented with a ton of opportunities that before seemed out of reach. They have moved to Japan so they could go all in on the Japanese centric content they have always wanted to, they could legitimately start pushing the RM stuff again, ect. The problem is that all these things take time and effort and their role as a member of HoloEN will always be here requiring it's own unique commitment while featuring a different fanbase with its own needs.

>> No.74249667

>>74249606
Are you retarded?

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>>74249630
>>74249657

>> No.74249713

Asuca…

>> No.74249722 [SPOILER] 
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Wuffians...

>> No.74249724

>>74249688
oo
o ooo
oo

>> No.74249728

Their messaging left a lot to be desired, I completely agree with that comment. But it's also, as usual, a trust issue. It's nobody's fault, you don't choose how much you trust people, but the thing is, if you believe their words, here's what you have to look forward to:
Golden Week: JP Week. Maybe it won't be 100%, but expect that and it won't be disappointed.
After that: Expect more homework days than usual for a while, busy period starting, this has been discussed for many months, nothing to do with Japan arc
After busy period: More JP streams than usual, but with english still being the majority, as it is their priority and what they're most comfortable with.
This is going 100% with words they used, it's what they said. Even JPschizos reading this wouldn't be having a meltdown. The actual real issue is that they're having trouble believing the words, they listen to the tears and assume they're not being truthful. I'm believing them 100%.
I could be the one in the wrong, as I said, trust isn't a choice, I'm not saying I'm a better fan, but do try to keep in mind that the above is what they effectively said. It really isn't the end of the world, if you're willing to at least believe them for now.
If you think having to rely on Andy Tran for a week is a big enough deal breaker, by all means, there's nothing I can say to make you feel better, that's what will happen. But if that doesn't sound nearly as bad as the version in your head, maybe try to wait a little more.

>> No.74249732

>>74249630
>cant you let them do whatever they want?
Yes, but I don't have to like it.

>> No.74249731

>>74249606
She literally graduated because she couldnt stand the niji policies anymore. How the fuck would that help

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>>74249728

>> No.74249781

>>74249630
I think much of the concern isn't about what they're doing now but what they may do. They didn't really instill much faith in how Golden Week will go
What people don't want is to see is them going full IRyS.

>> No.74249787

>>74249728
>I completely agree with that comment.
unironically asking the bots

>> No.74249855

>they all failed at the most basic shit
>trust FUWAMOCO
>ngmi

>> No.74249856

>>74249630
Eh they promised initially that JP solos would never replace EN streams(i.e. if they plan on streaming in JP one day early in the morning, they'd also stream in EN later on)
I'd have no issues at all if they kept to this, but it seems like Golden Week WILL be all JP, which is understandable. If they do more JP streams after GW, like they said wanted to do, they will 100% replace at least one EN stream. I can't really see a way around this. I imagine they'll try to work harder at translating to compensate for this cause they seem REALLY concerned about Ruffians missing out. Who knows, though?
I think they simply made a promise that was impossible to keep. I don't think it was a lie cause I DO believe they probably assumed they could easily do it.

>> No.74249864

>>74249713
what happened? I don't see anything

>> No.74249883

Anyone else hoping they cry some more?

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>>74249580
Yeah whatever you say dude , at least I feel so much better now, no jealousy no shit

>> No.74249932

>>74249728
>Golden Week: JP Week. Maybe it won't be 100%, but expect that and it won't be disappointed.
100% JP wouldn't bother me.
What WOULD bother me is if they do a "choose your adventure" super special stream in JP, plus the JP member only version.

>> No.74249935

I think I'm going to cruise this week and see what next week is like. It hasn't been feeling quite the same after the move except for DKC2.

>> No.74249939

they’re doing a poor job at protecting smiles.

>> No.74249949

>>74248989
Clique paypig here. Dunno about the others, but I was very supportive of their decision in my SC last night, and my post stream tweets and reply. I'm a gachikoi who loves their gfe, but I'm also an idol fag who wants to see the two women he loves achieve the dream they've had since they were little girls. I'm all for people voicing their grievances, as long as they're not being cunts about it. But it's wrong to assume that everyone is against their decision, but is just too scared to say anything.

>> No.74249951

>>74249888
then why are you here

>> No.74249950

>>74249883
no

>> No.74249966

>>74249856
>I think they simply made a promise that was impossible to keep
Thats the case. Not the first time, but its their attempt not to convince people but to convince themselves things will be that way.

>> No.74249993

>>74249728
>After busy period: More JP streams than usual, but with english still being the majority, as it is their priority and what they're most comfortable with.
I have no issue with this if those streams as long as they're either collabs, or "extra" streams that don't replace an EN stream. I doubt this though, since they seem to be going back on the whole "we won't replace EN streams with JP streams" thing.

>> No.74250031

/baubau/ will never be the same again

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I want to have sex with Fuwawa and cuddle Mococo. I also love JP streams
ChatGPT make it longer

>> No.74250057

Big rrat here. Their merchs sold super well among JP fans. Suzu-chan sees $$$ and is begging them to reach out to JayPee more.

>> No.74250083

>>74249932
I don't want that either. That would definitely disappoint me. Not sure if enough to complain or anything, but to me it goes way beyond "you'll be surprised", she's clearly hinting at volume of content, not how special it'll be.
If they simply make the VN streams bilingual with two sets of subtitltes, then I actually think that's good and not sure why it hasn't been done yet, not sure why JP ruffians should miss out on these. If they just switch from full EN VN to full JP VN, I'll be disappointed, even if I personally can still understand it. I just dislike the idea.

>> No.74250090

>>74249949
>But it's wrong to assume that everyone is against their decision, but is just too scared to say anything.
There's far more activity than usual in the comments section. Won't say they represent the majority but theres clearly a group that isnt happy.

>> No.74250094

>>74249295
true my friend who got me into hololive has been learning jp for 4 years for his oshi. I need to be like him.

>> No.74250132

>>74248552
not because new jp viewers but because en are going to leave

>> No.74250148

can you really say you love them if you aren’t willing to do your reps even after they swallowed so much western slop for your sake?

>> No.74250152

>>74249192
Post this in the vod

>> No.74250168

>>74250057
I mean probably but i don't really think you even to make up some big rrat ither. Look at their goal wall. So many o the things they want to do are things they can ONLY get by being popular in Japan

You can be in NA and but very single piece of merch that put out and donate 1000s of dollars and none of it will help get them on Japanese TV

>> No.74250176

>>74250090
>literal who
>don't even chat/superchat
>doggie

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>>74250057
I want to fuck suzuchan silly after a 12 hour sex session with icomochi
>>74249192

>> No.74250195

>>74249993
This is impossible, if you're using the current standard. We will NOT have as many streams as usual even if they were all EN only, so if you compare the current schedule to the future schedule, JP streams WILL look like they're stealing a spot.

>> No.74250241

>>74250083
Really? I thought the surprising part would be the content. They compared it to Christmas.

>> No.74250269

>>74250152
He took it from there

>> No.74250298

>>74249295
I mean, I'm learning, sure, but it's a hard and difficult process if you don't have a ton of time, and I definitely don't have a lot of time.
They've been pretty consistent for 8 months when it comes to JP streams and stuff. If they suddenly do weekly streams, that'll be a bit too much for me and quite a few other Ruffians, even as a learner.
No big deal, though. They can do what they wish, I just hope they learn how to actually include the EN fans like they said they want to. If they make a true and honest effort after GW like they said, then it'll be fine.

>> No.74250334

>>74250241
Listen again, they compared to both Christmas and New Year in how packed their schedules were. They said, "during the holidays you have more time at home, so we do a lot more streams, knowing you can be there at different times. Golden Week is like that for Japan"

>> No.74250351

I'm going to harass them and make them feel like shit in chat during every single JP stream. And I know they'll see it since it'll be a stream of moonrunes.

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reminder

>> No.74250392

>>74250195
Yeah I acknowledge that. I just wish they would bring it up at least cause it's clear they've gone back on it. It's probably why they were also so teary and apologetic yesterday, too.

>> No.74250395

>>74250083
If there were subtitles, I could deal. The thing is that they're doing improv for a lot so that's why it doesn't have subtitles. The cloudy part for me is that they said golden week was like christmas or new years but for JP. That's why I'm a bit questioning. If they're trying to leave an impression to JP, this would also be the way to do it. God I hope not, but guess we'll see.

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>>74249951
I just love checking in here. Well, not liking them doesn't mean I hate their community. Oh, also I love to shitpost here too

>> No.74250409

>>74250351
They banned the guy hinting at doxx in precat today, they're not gonna just sit there and let you shit up the chat. You think they're way more defenseless than they are.

>> No.74250428

>>74250241
Yeah I am expecting a VN stream exclusively in JP. I doubt they translate it, it is the one thing they were blunt about. This was a special week for JP fans only. EN fans need not apply because 'we get christmas'.

>> No.74250437

But what does anan onel have to say about this?

>> No.74250447

>>74250382
they told me to not watch it

>> No.74250484

>>74250409
Interesting they draw the line at complaining about JP streams but let Raul run free

>> No.74250511

>>74250437
already baited his superchat

>> No.74250513

I am FWMC's most loyal knight

>> No.74250520

Seeing people slowly crumbling down over the next few weeks is going to be a ride

>> No.74250524

>>74250057
What suzu chan doesn't realise is that a good majority of the limited merch jp sales were EN fans using proxy services.

>> No.74250553

>>74250395
Yeah, I think it's understandable. Keep their voices in english only and let someone in chat translate if they feel like it, but I was genuinely surprised both times that there was no JP dialogue for the MC.
It's all rooted in a similar issue, I guess, now that I think about it, their approach to appealing to JP is kind of half assed. How many new people they grab during Golden Week will want to stick around once they switch back to "majority EN content"? Even if they go super hard on it and we get TWO WHOLE JP STREAMS every single week, nobody is switching oshis for two streams a week.

>> No.74250563

>>74250484
They have banned Raul before.

>> No.74250611

I need to up my screenshot game if I'm going to be the last Ruffian left

>> No.74250624

>>74250563
And then fuwamoco begged mane chan to unban him despite him not learning a damn thing

>> No.74250625

>>74250553
they don’t want them to switch oshis, they want more attention in general which this will probably give them

>> No.74250630

>>74250553
It's clearly a subgrab tactic the way they explained it. If some stick along then it's just a bonus.

>> No.74250642

>>74250553
You can watch multiple girls.
Many people watch a handful of holos.

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>>74250553
they're wimping out on practicing Japanese on real people so they're coping by streaming for JPs in a bedroom like autists

>> No.74250659

>>74249549
>precedents
it was 1 fucking month ago

>> No.74250665

>>74250553
>Even if they go super hard on it and we get TWO WHOLE JP STREAMS every single week, nobody is switching oshis for two streams a week.
They are not hoping to get people to switch oshis, they want the attention of DDs and casuals.

>> No.74250731

>>74250655
Just make friends with some homeless dude and drill a hole into his head. Holy shit it's so easy to get JP practice. I'm still glad they want to do more collabs with JP senpai because I love those, but what a retarded reason.

>> No.74250737

their birthday lives are 100% JP time next year. Well, I hope not and pray they will have already failed the JP stream experiment by then but if it goes like they want it to it's a certainty.

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All I want is for them to be EXPLICIT about what they want.
If they plan on doing at least on JP stream a week, they should say so. Even if they're still 50/50 on it, they should say this anyway so that the fans actually know what to expect instead of leaving everyone in this wierd speculative state where everything and nothing is true.
Stop being so wierd and autistic with your words, just take a fucking stand. You WILL disappoint a lot of Ruffians, but it'll be EVEN WORSE if you constantly surprise them with shit like this.
Say something so those who feel FOMO can either leave, do their REPS, or become casuals. I bet after Golden Week, they STILL won't be explicit about this.
This will always be my number one criticism, and I hope one of you superchats them about this. If not, I'll do it myself during their GW schedule reveal.
I just want better communicationn so I dont have to always deal with eternal confused speculation

>> No.74250860

>>74249781
IRyS...

>> No.74250865

>>74250737
They should be. Sorry but like 70% of people who tune into 3D lives are Japanese. For some reason JP holo fans will tune into live events much more than any others.
This is why IDs had such big numbers for their 3D debuts, cause they had them at JP hours.

>> No.74250867

how did moco-chan forget about tummy day? Was she drugged against her will? Did Fuwawa take over her body to record it and post it?

>> No.74250879

>>74250737
Why would they ever do that? It's not like birthday lives have a live audience. It's just a recording. If we're lucky they'll actually do it live. It's the dumbest thing to rock the boat over. They already hinted at the Sololive being held in Japan IF it ever happens years in the future and were in tears over it. Or being worried about JP collabs being in japanese. Things NOBODY expected different make them feel guilty. They wouldn't do this with a birthday live that people do expect in PST prime time.
If anything the fact that they freak out over nonissues is part of what is making the reaction so much rougher than it needed to be. The sololive and JP collab talks shouldn't even have been brought up in the same discussion, they are irrelevant. When you bundle them all together you're just adding insult to injury to those upset, but thinking logically nobody would be upset about it.

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For anyone who is actually believing any of that nonsense, Calli and Bae held their birthday lives during US primetime and they're HoloENs that live in Japan. Calli mentioned that there were JP viewers bitching and moaning about the time but she did it anyway.

>> No.74250933

>>74250897
based pink lady

>> No.74250934

>>74250409
I mean how do we know if that's them that deleted it and not their manager or a random mod?

>> No.74250935

I remember reading someone comment about golden week some days ago in one of the streams

>> No.74250979

>>74250826
I don't think there's a point in superchatting about it, their backlog is big, they may not read today's superchats today, even less reason to do so if they notice the supas are all talking about information that wasn't supposed to be made public. Sure, they liked the vagueposts on twitter, but none of them were straight up saying "your Golden Week schedule".
It's just hard to discuss.

>> No.74250991

>>74250879
>but thinking logically nobody would be upset about it.
Anon, they are idolfags. They understand how it is to be disappointed to not be able to see dempagumi performed on the big stage when they finally made it.

>> No.74251036

>>74250979
That's why I said I'll wait for their Golden Week schedule. They'll 100% address it all there

>> No.74251087

>>74250428
that would be the last straw for me

>> No.74251117

>>74250934
They're always reading prechat, they reacted several times, prechat is slow as fuck, the amount of holos with no mods vastly surpasses the amount of holos with mods, and the ones that do have them are all of the attention whore variety, always posting in chat, they never use alts to moderate and then their regular account to chat.
Nobody is doing shit for them, of course it's them banning people, especially when the stream is not even up. They'll pick up a superchat sent in the final seconds of the stream and read it right there, do you really think Suzu-chan did speed of light reading and approving on Discord in 2 seconds? There's no manager review of superchats, they skip what they want to skip.

>> No.74251118

>>74250731
>retarded reason
>retardedreason
>rrat

>> No.74251121

>>74250879
Numbers. Would you rather have 40k watching your birthday live or 100k?

>> No.74251146

honestly the change may be small this time, but part of the reason Im overreacting in vod comments is to make crystal clear that I prefer EN streams, like FWMC regardless, but dont like more JP content. They can choose to listen or ignore my and others views.

>> No.74251150

Funny how this seems to be more dramatic than ririka deciding to join VCR or IRyS deciding to join HZNTL.

>> No.74251223

>>74250991
Being upset about your inability of being there is different from wanting it to be different. People complaining about the first meet and greet being in Taiwan wanted it to be different, people complaining about JP streams want it to be different. Nobody wants them to give up on sololives, they'll just either travel or buy a stream ticket.
It has literally never been a point of discussion even once. At most you have people saying they hope Cover will do another Connect The World.

>> No.74251235

>>74251150
this is something that’s been building up for a while, last stream is just when things hit a boiling point

>> No.74251251

>>74251150
Is because FWMC could be protagonists for EN

>> No.74251261

>>74251150
Emotional stream + poor communication + doxxsite shut down + sisters have been angry at FWMC ignoring homos and being wildly successful for months

>> No.74251267

>>74251150
sisters are on their period

>> No.74251313

>>74251150
Not really, I quit my membership to the former over VCR

>> No.74251321

>>74251117
Allof the girls have plenty of mods on during their streams. The mods are just cover staff and don't post in chat ever because it throws off the vibes. Do you really think with how strict about the girls' image cover is they would let any girls stream go unmodded? Really?
I know they read pre-chat but they are also super menhera about banning people. They have spoken with pride about never banning people in certain instances. It's way more likely to me a random mod did it because yes despite them not being visibly present mods are ALWAYS lurking.

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is 4chan dying or its me

>> No.74251359

>>74251121
Did IRyS get 100k viewers? Not even holoJP numbers are consistent across the board. You need to be a behemoth in your normal content to be a behemoth in events. There's an event buff, but it's not like everyone reaches the same highs just for being there.
Holostars during the no overlap rule period would be able to tell you that, kek.

>> No.74251373

>>74251351
works on my machine

>> No.74251388

>>74251146
I mean, it's pretty evident most of their members at the moment do. They're pretty aware of this as well. I doubt they'll EVER stop or wind down their JP streams. If anything, they'll do what they said and focus a bit more on them.
There's no real way for them to balance this in a satisfactory way. They want more JP fans/subs, and the JP fans won't watch them if they don't stream in Japanese more.
It's sad, and it sucks. They realize this but are going through with it anyway and even said they understand if we "leave or stop supporting them."
Ultimately the only choice now is to do your reps. I say this 100% unironically. They will never switch to HoloJP, but their content will be a bit more JP than it was before.

>> No.74251421

>>74251150
Different women and audiences.

>> No.74251431

>>74251321
>Do you really think with how strict about the girls' image cover is they would let any girls stream go unmodded? Really?
Yes? Unless you're accusing them of lying, to which I wouldn't have any response.

>> No.74251445

>>74251359
It was just an example. At any rate I've seen even ENs get higher numbers for event streams during JP hours than they got during EN hours where their main fans would be.
And I just think it's something about JP fans who are willing to tune into events in general, where EN fans barely do.

>> No.74251517

if you didn't start your reps 8 months ago just fucking give up already because you never will. You could have been fully understanding everything they say in streams by this point. They gave you ample time and warning.

>> No.74251534

>>74251445
or maybe en fans sacrifice their sleep hours while the jp casuals non-fans just join for fun

>> No.74251535

>>74251150
regloss started as a homoshill gen tho
also, ririkas unicorn rant

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I'm tired.

>> No.74251568

>>74251359
Bae's went from (3D debut)49k to (bday)55k, Kronii from 59k to 44k, while IRyS's went from 55k to 70k. So a buff, though not enough to break 100k.

>> No.74251578

>>74251517
with that logic you are a bitcoin billionaire, post proof

>> No.74251602

how did gorilla get a 4 minute tangent for a pink but I got 30 seconds for my aka supporting them

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>> No.74251619

>>74251602
they don’t like you

>> No.74251630

>>74251551
same but I want to watch shiori beat this boss

>> No.74251637

>>74251517
>They gave you ample time and warning.
Honestly, they didn't. If they did, Inwouldnt have any issues tbdesu famalam.
If they said all this day one, sure. But multiple times over the months, they said JP streams won't replace EN streams AND they said they want to translate better, etc. It's clear their direction has changed, which they literally brought up yesterday

>> No.74251663

>>74251517
i don't remember the stream where they told me i had 8 months to become fluent in japanese

>> No.74251675

Can you give me some FWMC reaction images? I need to remake my folder

>> No.74251683

>>74251351
I think you mean reddit touristchama

>> No.74251687

>>74251551
i feel defeated

>> No.74251688

>>74251150
IRyS addressed it directly and quickly it was just full doom for 1 day

>> No.74251714

>>74251688
What did she say?

>> No.74251728

>>74251630
Shiori should beat my meat

>> No.74251745

how many more supas do we have to get through for this upcoming reading?

>> No.74251788

>>74251745
150...

>> No.74251794

>>74251619
that's obvious from the announcement too, but damn I didn't realize it was this bad. I hate my life

>> No.74251816

>>74251517
>JP streams won't replace EN streams
>JP streams will be rare
Nah, if anything, they pretty much reassured us of the opposite.
If they told us day one that this was their intention rather than switch gears 8-months in, that would be completely fine.

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>>74251788

>> No.74251826

>>74251388
>Ultimately the only choice now is to do your reps
no it's not, the rest of advent is looking pretty juicy and they have gotten better over time

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>>74251683
4chan was omoi here
I guess its just the usual censorship bot doing its thing
I hope nothing happens during supacha reading stream

>> No.74251880

I knew from day 1 that they want to move to Japan and be the idol holo types there. Which I was okay with, as I like hololive and idols a lot, this is basically what I'm here for.

Why didn't you know?

>> No.74251899

at this point i’m just going to make a japanese alt account if that’s what they want so much

>> No.74251905

>>74251817
Is really bad timing and I wish they can switch it out with DKC2. But it is what it is.

>> No.74251915

>>74251826
I'm not talking about Advent, though. I'm talking about if you decide to continue to watch FuwaMoco.

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>>74251728
You need to beat her meat first.

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My wives are going away with their Japanese boyfriends for a week or two, then everything will go back to normal and it will stay that way.

>> No.74251976

>>74251714
that she wasn't going to interact with the homos directly and management forced her, she did a karaoke the day the homos got fired so the sisters took it really bad

>> No.74251987

>>74251880
i don't watch streams and that includes debut streams

>> No.74252005

>>74251956
stop being such a BITCH Ryan

>> No.74252008

>>74251880
>Why didn't you know?
The fact that they wanted to move to Japan and interact with JP girls was clear from day one. What wasn't clear is the rest of it.
They reassured us multiple times that they would never replace EN streams with JP streams, and they that JP solos would be rare.

>> No.74252041

>>74251956
go fuck yourself ryan

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>> No.74252128

>>74252084
wtf is that aids font

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This was the real curse all along...

>> No.74252170

>>74252008
>The fact that they wanted to move to Japan was clear from day one
Now you're just making shit up

>> No.74252183

>>74252008
And people told you multiple times that was not a promise they could keep.

>> No.74252195

How many weeks will it takes before things settle down?

>> No.74252206

>>74252152
i will never forgive her

>> No.74252222

>>74251956
that is if they don't enjoy their cocks more and decide to never come back or send you to the watching chair

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>>74252152
i'm literally enjoying every seccond of fuwamoco since that stream announcement
mori should end herself

>> No.74252236

>>74252195
Never.

>> No.74252268

>>74252170
>Now you're just making shit up
They literally said this during their debut stream, anon. Watch streams.
>>74252183
Yeah I know, but I don't care about this places opinions. I care about theirs. My main criticism is them going back on their word and not being clear about their intentions from the start, that's all.

>> No.74252278

>>74252195
It'll be worse on Wednesday

>> No.74252292

>>74252170
if not day one then it was somewhere around the first week though, most likely mentioned in the Q&A too

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