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What went wrong?

>> No.74204925

The AR “live” can’t bring back their lost audience, it only would appeal to their intact fans. I doubt they will grow under and duress, even if they pulled a rabbit out of a hat.

>> No.74204949

>>74204664
Why did you cut it off before Elira's POV numbers?

>> No.74205022

Concerts are for established fans

>> No.74205162

>>74204664
>phase has officially overtaken nijiEN
Sisters…

>> No.74205222

>>74204949
Because those in that list were 3views, which are terrible for major EN corpo streamers. Elira managed to peak at 1.3k (4views) - that's still bad, but at least way better than those in the list

>> No.74205469
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74205469

>Big concert that has a 6000 yen entry fee and wouldn't really mean anything to someone who isn't already a fan
>Doesn't attract new viewers
Yeah, no shit. What did you expect?
I think it's safe to say anyone who left over the drama has probably been burned too deeply to ever come back unless Niji made significant changes to its business strategy (and also publicized the fact that it had improved things). The only realistic way for them to "heal" at this point would be to invest heavily into advertising and pray it brings in a new audience who's willing to overlook their past sins.

>> No.74205486

There's a guy called Claude Clawmark? I'm pretty sure I made better names for my stories back in high school and most of those were for homework.

>> No.74205489

>>74204949
Don't worry, sister
Elira is also a 1k shitter now
I will put her on the list once she hits 3views

>> No.74206013

>>74204664
>Live
more like VOD from 1 year ago KEK

>> No.74206101

meanwhile mika 7k at twitch lol

>> No.74206144

No free segment archived on youtube and it never trended on twitter. It brought no new eyes to NijiEN.

>> No.74206208

7 Kurosanji streamers combining for 10 Finanas and 1 Aster...RUMAOOOOOOO

>> No.74206218

>>74204664
top2 major corpo vtuber agency btw lol

>> No.74206633 [DELETED] 

don't you niggers ever get bored of nijisanji

>> No.74206878

more like what went right

>> No.74206888

>>7420466
>Collab buff for millie, vanta and claude
Holy fucking 2 finana.

>> No.74206923

>>74206633
they do thats why nobody watches them

>> No.74207058

are we ignoring the fact that its just bots in their viewcounts?

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>>74204664
I have a plan to save Aster. Give him the punishment stream for being a sexpest. It'll be his redemption and apology and the fans can get some femboy punishment kink out of it. It's a win-win for everyone. Also lock him in a cock cage just in case. Also might as well release Aster-themed sex merch like the Aster dildo and cock cage. Actually, if Niji pays a good amount, I wouldn't mind running NijiEN for them.

>> No.74207326

>>74204664
killing all buzz with their copy strikes on memes, even if the live were scuffed they could have just claimed that it had "soul" and that is looked better in motion.
oh and re record bits that they cut, so it looks like a full product and worth they entry price.
But the sad truth is that this live was not about redeeming the livers, it was about money.
If they waited any longer that "live" would be unsalvageable so they had to put it out or throw it in the trash

>> No.74207396

>>74207195
“sigh”

>> No.74207458

>>74204664
>Aster
jesus christ, how does this man pay his bills?

>> No.74207675 [DELETED] 

>>74206923
engaging with niji content ironically is still being a nijinigger.

>> No.74207775
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74207775

Not gonna write a whole essay about it but nijisanji left the problem to fester for too long.

The AR live would have been great for them if it debuted back in feb 2023 like it was originally planned, but the fuckups and mismanagement were literally aeons in vtuber time and cost them a huge chunk of their fanbase.

>> No.74207847

>>74205222
>1k shitter
>was pulling 2k 3 years ago before the boys debuted and was 'bad' compared to kiara and mori who were pulling 12k
Holo and niji have both shat the bed so hard but niji is worse off because they flew close to the sun and then cut their wings off out of spite.

>> No.74207886

>>74205469
They should force Finana to collab with VAllure. That would do some "healing"

>> No.74207897

*sigh*

>> No.74207900

>>74207847
i would never get into vtubing today if I weren't into it already.

>> No.74208068
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>3viewsanji

>> No.74208394

>>74205486
Keep reading Anon, look at "Ver Vermillion"

>> No.74208503
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>>74205486
It's claude clownmark, and if you want better names you could just FUCKING ASK

>> No.74208669

>>74204664
this is really fucking embarrassing, right? like these numbers back then were only for finana, now it's everyone?

>> No.74208856

>>74204664
were those guys even in AR live? i thought it was just luxium and ethyria/obsydia
of course it didnt do jack. still find it funny tho

>> No.74208955

besides aster being below 300, everyone else is not having terrible numbers. not great but not terrible, the drama is dead and the EN branch needs refreshments. lets see what vox is cooking later and how Niji EN's q4 report goes, i think it won't be as bad as you antis are predicting.

>> No.74209229

>>74208955
Look im not exactly hoping for EN's downfall but you have to be delusional to think Q4 for the EN branch wont be terrible. Thats when the whole Pomu leaving/ Selen drama happened AND they all skipped any kind of valentine stream because of the boycott which is a major cash day. Im just morbidly curious at this point since the dramas over

>> No.74209265

>>74205469
>I think it's safe to say anyone who left over the drama has probably been burned too deeply to ever come back
Speaking as a former elira fan this is the case for me. I might've been able to grudgingly go back without that black screen stream but after that there's zero trust that the livers aren't all truly awful human beings, and the few that I feel are safe are ultimately still working for the corpo that allowed things to get so appallingly bad that it ended the way it did.
Short of elira coming out and basically saying management conspired everything on top of a COMPLETE purge of current management (and yes I know this scenario is basically impossible that's kinda the point they crossed the rubicon) there's no trust and I can never ever watch them again.

>> No.74209269

>>74208856
Millie is there, blindchama

>> No.74209386
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>>74204664
>everyone is 1-2 finanas

GRIM

GRIM

GRIM

GRIM

NIJISANJI ISN'T DO AS GOOD AS THEY EXPECTED

>> No.74209409

>>74204664
Don't worry, the SG Live will

>> No.74209433

>>74204664
>top not even 3 Finanas
>bottom not even 1 Finana
Holy grim

>> No.74209473

>>74207326
>But the sad truth is that this live was not about redeeming the livers, it was about money.
This is 100% true. If this was at all about the company showing their love for the livers, they would have spent some time last year polishing it and unscuffing it for a September or October release, instead of just mothballing it.

>If they waited any longer that "live" would be unsalvageable so they had to put it out or throw it in the trash
...Yes, but actually worse. It was already unsalvageable trash when they finished making it, which is why it was mothballed in the first place (along with management thinking that the lie of "postponed due to covid" would somehow not look worse than the truth of "cancelled due to piss-poor quality")
It was only removed from the vault as part of Niji's desperate efforts to salvage as much Q4 revenue as possible. They didn't have time to remove any of the scuff; the only work they could do was to remove Selen's scenes and the graduated livers' 3D models (but not their voices), and they had to do it quickly because there was only 6 weeks left in Q4 when they started doing any of that work.

Oh by the way the stock closed at 2226 today. It also dropped under 2200 for a few minutes.

>> No.74209490

>>74205222
>Elira managed to peak at 1.3k
It's lower than Iofi's MonHun stream from yesterday. Talk about grim...

>> No.74209569
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>>74209386
>Vox "Hololive tech issue in shambles"

>> No.74209602

>>74209490
Doki got more than that playing Hello Kitty on her dad's iPad, after a delay of over an hour due to technical issues

>> No.74209675

>>74209602
And she made less than Elira. Looks like dramafags don't pay up

>> No.74209747

>>74204664
>battletech minis
nice, based scarle.

>> No.74209771

What part of Riku Tazumi being a dumbass billionaire trust fund baby who was inevitably doomed to failure do you dumbfucks not understand

>> No.74209807

>>74208955
lol we predicted Q3 is disaster. and its more than what we expected.
cant wait for Q4

>> No.74209818

>>74209675
nah elira still made less. all spent on yacht fuel

>> No.74209865

>>74209771
chink sisters from a kpop background who don't understand economics and are huffing massive amounts of copium. they cannot be saved.

>> No.74209872

>>74209747
as retarded she is her fans are pretty based.

>> No.74209877

>>74209807
Q4 might be not great, not terrible

>> No.74209921

>>74208955
Nijibro, 300 was somewhat good back then, now literal whos who aren't streamers get close to those numbers these days.

>> No.74210021

>>74209807
No you didn't, you faggots. You were hyping up Selen killing Niji only for it to come out and then you realized it was a report for shit before had her menhera meltdown

>> No.74210040

>>74209386
its both funny and sad that mysta was saying how he's so tired and scared of what to say privately and then this gets dropped

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>>74209675
>still not sold out yet
why nijisisters didnt support their livers?

>> No.74210076

>>74209872
i wish all the normies that got in and aren't dramafags a safe graduation or a way to get out. all the hanamori fags can stay and rot.

>> No.74210156

>>74210021
yes we did. go back to doxxsite nijikeks

>> No.74210203

>>74204664
Uh oh sisters, didn't you tell me AR Live was better than Holofes? What happened???

>> No.74210235

>>74210069
nijiwhores only suck dick, they dont care about vaginas

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>>74210156
they cant

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>>74210076
i mean lot of her fans already follow her pl (hell she active there lmao)

>> No.74210432

>>74210348
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.74210472

>>74210069
>"Nijisisters are all SEAfags, that's why they sell out to Asia and why most their superchats aren't USD"
>"A convention in SEA isn't immediately selling out, I knew SEA Nijisisters didn't care about EN"

Pick one

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>>74209675

i even included apples to apples to save you from your own embarrassment now fuck off sister...

>> No.74210847

>>74209807
same. q4 is gonna be kino.

>> No.74210879

>>74210656
>19th vs 21th is apples to apples now
dookiekeks are not smart arent they?

>> No.74210936

>>74210348
>>74210432
It will be back in like 3 months, this has happened before like twice even. Nobody can permanently kill that shithole,

>> No.74210996
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>>74210656
>Uses Elira's debuff game collab stream started at midnight
Kek. Now use her Zatsu and see how hard it mogs Doki

>> No.74211111

>>74210996
>started at midnight
No? It was 6PM ET, primetime US hours, which is her normal stream slot.

>> No.74211113

>>74204925
This. It's a bit of a stretch but for reason I would liken it to the progression and treatment of Parkinson's disease. With this disease, your motor control neurons keep dying and there's no real cure for it yet, but the standard treatment that helps keep it from progressing for a while is to give stimulants to the remaining motor neurons that are still there to compensate. This only works for a little bit however and the harder those last ones are working the more they'll just keep burning out.

NijiEN will keep being sustained by the remaining fans being milked harder and more fiercely until their wallets burn out. It won't cure the disease, of NijiEN's management and talents coming across as unprofessional, arrogant, condescending to fans you name it. It also explains IMO why the remaining niji fans seem so fucking extra-insufferable - they actively tolerate the level of shit they are at that many others did not. It's not bad enough yet to make them leave - it has to somehow get even worse for that to happen.

>> No.74211254

>>74211113
this post is offensive to the parkinson communtiy and i demand you take it back.

>> No.74211279

>>74211113
There are no new fans. Anyone that would be into Nijisanji would have been in by now, it's been years. The Vtubing industry in general is past the honeymoon period and everything is slowing down even without drama. It's only natural

>> No.74211294

>>74210936
>2-3 months of “dookie”posts on the ‘log from the NDF’s retarded doxxsister division
Well, at least they won’t have their precious updoots

>> No.74211297

>>74204664
>AR Live
>"Live"
It didn't even feel like one...

>> No.74211450

>>74207458
Bullied Scarle for her lunch money

>> No.74211553

At some point we might have to adjust 1 Finana to <300CCv

>> No.74211591

>>74211279
So how will Riku prove he can prevent stagnation if the branch he created to do just that cannot grow?

>> No.74211657

>>74211591
All of the first 20 members just got that 3Ds and the next two gens are getting them soon

>> No.74211809

>>74211657
Yeah, that’ll do it. Can I interest you in a lemon?

>> No.74211831

>>74211591
Simple 1. prune the roster, 2. rebrand 3. Hire a professional PR company. 4. Go on a professional charm offensive in terms of PR 5. get fresh blood in.

>> No.74211875

Shockingly it's hard to come back from cause a coworkers suicide attempt and the successive pr fumbles

>> No.74211981

>>74211875
If this is how they remember NijiEN's legacy... It ain't a very good one lol

>> No.74211992

>>74211657
Let’s say your friend owes you 5 bucks.

If your friend gives you 5 bucks back, is that a good thing?

Yes, it’s a good thing. But it’s also the bare minimum. You are expected to make good on debts like this. To do so isn’t a special gesture.


We call this basic decency.

>> No.74212206

>>74211450
>imply she need lunch when she sleep at 11 am lmao.

>> No.74212217

>>74211992
better yet, he owed you those 5 bucks over 2 years ago and is just now paying you back

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>>74210472
Even the most zealous SEAmonkeys dropped Niji. Good on them.

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>>74211113
Go back to pathology 101 nigger, thats not the pathogenesis of Parkinson’s. If motor neuron death was the cause then conscious movement of the extremities and eventually most muscles would cease. Basic fucking anatomy.

The progression of the disease is due to progressive decline of dopamine in the substantia nigra part (literally black substance, because dopamine stained black with the first used stains) of the brainstem. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter and part of its duties are to regulate movement. So its a functional disease regarding the motor system not a structural one. Motoneurons being directly affected? Thats minimal.
Source: This is fucking basic, also random openly available book on pubmed: /books/NBK536722

TL;DR: Kill yourself

>> No.74212573

>>74211831
So, they essentially have to nuke a good portion of their lasting audience in a clear business-related pivoting maneuver, which is unlikely to mend their image successfully. They are presently only able to make amends over longstanding gripes held at management because they entered a deep-water phase, internally and externally; I doubt they can rebrand without fucking it up royally again.

>> No.74213902

>>74207900
The EN Vtubing scene was relatively drama free in 2020, it was literally cute girls doing cute things. Today it's turned into a cesspit.

>> No.74214277

>>74213902
if niji wasnt this black it still would be.

>> No.74214278

>>74211657
Too little too late. Should have thought about the branch morale before things shit the bed.

>> No.74214372

>>74210996
>Elira went from a $4k return stream to less than $300 the next
This helps you prove elira is a massive success compared to doki how, exactly?
You realize she made only about 80 bucks from today's stream right sister?

>> No.74214494

>>74210472
Sisters being SEA doesn’t mean the majority of SEA likes niji you idiot.

>> No.74215396

>>74214277
Board was getting spammed with Kenji for two days.

>> No.74215474

They never recovered from the Zaion terminations
Everything only went downhill from there

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>>74204664
>The company is going through a PR nightmare
>Lowest numbers ever
>The concert was paywalled and the free segment removed
>They don't even allow sharing clips or screenshots
Geez, I wonder why the AR didn't help them

>> No.74215543

>>74215505
Seriously, motherfuckers can't make a single right decision.

>> No.74215651

>>74215505
Making the concert free would have helped in the long run, but that would have wrecked (even more than it already is) their Q4.

>> No.74215695

>>74208955
In 2021 being below 900 viewers was bad for the branch.

>> No.74215828

>>74207847
>holo shat the bed
wat? Isn't EN doing fantastic right now? Viewership is up. Superchats are up. Merch sales are up. Events are up. Did I miss something?

>> No.74215928

>>74215828
Just nijiniggers trying to lump others with them

>> No.74215960

>>74215651
>implying they're planning on salvaging the branch past Q4
They're just clearing the warehouse and making a buck wherever there's a buck to be made.

>> No.74216158

>>74214494
This is actually true, seeing Filipinos drag Millie is some fun SEA-on-SEA violence for a good five minutes of your time

>> No.74216214

>>74214277
>niji niji niji niji
yet you keep making threads about it. did nijisanji force you to post about their numbers? is OP being paid by anycolor?

>> No.74216317

>>74210021
Yeah we did. And it got way, way worse because of Selen. She wiped out the entire buyback, which crippled their response for when the actual financial results came back, completely removing any room they had to fall, and it's been downhill from there as Q4 had virtually no fucking financial results to speak of despite their desperate attempts to shill. The western audience is gone, and so is their money. The chinese fujos are trying, but they can't keep the investors happy with their pennies.

>> No.74216361

Even in the Lazusydia days you would never see streams this low.

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>>74210348

>> No.74216708

>>74208955
Speaking as a former fan of the branch, it was rough when Reimu was getting sub 1k back in 2021. This right now is catastrophically fucked.

>> No.74216742
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>>74204664

>> No.74216897

>>74216742
kek

>> No.74216919

>>74215505
Lets not kid ourselves here anon. allowing sharing of screenshots would not have helped them in the slightest either.

>> No.74216938

>>74216742
Kek'd

>> No.74217007

>>74208955
In the Lazulight/Obsydia era, normal numbers were 1k-2k with Selen at 3k
Today? Those are Luxiem numbers. Everyone else is far below that. We're seeing streams under 500 viewers for fuck's sake. Back then, Petra was mocked when she had 800 viewers. That would be considered GOOD for a NijiEN girl today.

Also just look at the content change.
Back then, it was a wholesome friendship atmosphere mostly centered around the cute girls bantering with each other. Today it's all about appealing to vile disgusting fujos who demand explicitly sexual and degenerate content. Enna talking about her shits, Vox talking about his cumspurts. Reimu shipping herself with a new guy every week. It's become a shitshow. To be perfectly frank it's unwatchable if you're not a fujo.

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>>74204949

>> No.74217446

>>74216361
>Even in the Lazusydia days
In the "Lazusydia days" Finana would normally stream to 1k+ people. Even after Ethyria debuted and Reimu was the first regular sub 1k in the branch, there was still a general sense that the branch was inclining. if you told someone back then that we'd eventually have members regularly peaking at 300 viewers max you'd have been told to fuck off.

>> No.74217471

>>74217435
Kek

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>>74217435
>0.3 Finanas
what the fuck?
>league of legends
>PART 20
oh no fucking wonder

>> No.74217590

>>74217435
>2view corpo stream
GRIM

>> No.74217729

>>74217435
>buff game
>not even 1k
jesus

>> No.74217784

>>74217568
>>PART 20
I dont get why he even does that its league you can jump in whenever a match ends its not like you need to watch the previous 19 parts because you've missed vital context otherwise.

Its completely unnecessary self inflicted number cancer in the title.

>> No.74218023

>>74217784
The stream content is mostly just his chat talking to each other because he doesn't talk, although that may be a blessing considering his voice

>> No.74218060

>>74217729
Reminds me of that time last week when they failed to break 1k on a helldivers stream

>> No.74218070

>>74204664
Not gonna lie, but you want to blame the AR bit can we talk of a collab having 4 identical, very amateurish edited thimbnails?
Even 2views would do a different thumbnail for each video depending on the vtuber. It screams “effortless corposlop done quick”.
The AR wasn’t a big moment, it was something left one year ok a shelf and cut over and over as livers kept leaving over this level of quality. You don’t inspire confidence showing how wounded oyu are and how unable to address it you are, people naturally move where they can expect something actially exciting.

>> No.74218076

>>74218023
It's a good lesson in what it takes to make this kind of content streamable. Selen didn't dare make her Apex ranked grind too long, she'd grind offline and she'd call in friends who could help her get the job done.

>> No.74218078

>>74217435
>Waiting for the end of stream to take the screenshot
Elira had 1.2k steady, but I assume she'll fall to 3view in a few weeks. Bitch better starts making drafts and rehearsals for her excuse when she has to bail.

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>>74204664
>What went wrong
they used gmod

>> No.74218223

>>74215651
Maybe AT LEAST don’t make obvious PR damage control moves as to not allowing screenshots and privating tge free part asap. It screams “problems” even to randos.

>> No.74218284

>>74216742
They did. They doubled the stock growth (-20 to -40)

>>74217435
holy shit. Please tell me this is out of context

>>74217784
Listing part numbers is a fucking stupid idea if it's more than 2 and all the good streamers know that all it does is chase idiots off who don't want to go in feeling they "missed" something.

>> No.74218413

>>74210879
>21th
Holy ESL

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>>74218223
Isn't that what they always do? At least the screenshots part. This time it blew up in their faces because the concert was extra scuffed, and it's pretty easy to find awkward or downright terrible-looking moments. So the shitposters are having the time of their life, while the most hardcore nijifans can only watch and seethe because they don't want to disobey the company and share good screenshots to balance things out. It's a pretty funny situation if you ask me.

>> No.74218487

>>74218129
Aside from Petra's neck and the purple models, what's supposed to be bad about the other pictures? I mean I haven't watched it so maybe they look worse in motion.

>> No.74218545
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>>74218487
heres some motion

>> No.74218583

>>74218545
>they are not profesional dancers
so?

>> No.74218757

>>74218583
so you admit they are shit dancers
ok ty

>> No.74218830

>>74218545
I mean, am I supposed to be mad that they're not cartwheeling around on stage like Korone? They aren't Hololive. As far as I remember Pomu was the only one in the branch serious about doing her dancing reps.

>> No.74218892

>>74218583
People generally use this footage as proof they didn't really take the time or put in the work to make their choreography with the models look good.

They're only, like, three people onstage. If you're trying to command stage presence in a mocap suit, you need to have very animated movements and the choreo needs to be good. They fail at both of these things, and only Uki seems to have any ounce of life in those gay bones of his.

Yes, they are not professional dancers. But that's not the point. The definition of a professional dancer would be someone who is paid to dance. It doesn't matter if they're paid to dance or not, people can be good at dancing without being paid for it. Considering how long this concert's been in the works, the display is a liiiiiiiittle embarrassing.

>> No.74218932

>>74218830
>mfw when they fire Yugo, one of the most talented male singers
>mfw they fire Selen who actually has a background in dance
>mfw they fire Pomu the idol geek

>> No.74218954

>>74218583
bad/good dancing won't save that ugly ass 3D model and rigging.

>> No.74218971

>>74218583
so learn to be one retard. ppl paid money for this

>> No.74219002

>>74218932
>mfw they fire Pomu the idol geek
She left on good terms.

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>>74218545
>>74218487
Anon it's a concert you can't just leave out the music.
https://files.catbox.moe/i7q5nw.mp4

>>74218830
They literally fired all the people who gave a shit about putting on a good show.

>> No.74219050

>>74218932
>>mfw when they fire Yugo, one of the most talented male singers
A woman
>>mfw they fire Selen who actually has a background in dance
I thought she was fat?
>>mfw they fire Pomu the idol geek
They didn't fire her, she left cause she was sick of their bullshit

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>>74219002
>good terms

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67DAc2egFmw
>I learned something about my previous job that left me traumatized

>> No.74219082

>>74219002
yeah, being traumatized and unwilling to pursue vtubing due to feelings of worthlessness without heavy support from multiple sources sure sounds like good terms

>> No.74219104

>>74219050
>I thought she was fat?
She's literally not. She hikes and runs regularly on a treadmill, has history as an athlete and trained in ballet.

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>>74218487
notice those shiny outlines. notice how faqing strong the lighting is

>> No.74219152

>>74219076
nijiniggers ruin everything
fking total nijinigger death is the only solution

>> No.74219204

>>74219104
Huh, I never knew. It's sad in a sense then that I'll never see Pomu and Selen dance on stage together, but I'm still happy they're out of there.

>> No.74219224

>>74211831
How they treat JP will always anchor them into operating as they are right now.
Imagine the fucking shitstorm on the JP side if EN starts getting better treatment than their local talents do.

>> No.74219264

>>74218436
No because they allowed screenshots for Nijifes.

>> No.74219303
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>>74218583
this reminds me of those nijinigs that keep defending AR live unknowingly admitting that the performance was subpar

>> No.74219315

>>74219204
>74219104(You)
For what it's worth, she's not very good at dancing anymore since she's out of practice, but she still has most of her stamina and works very hard whenever she gets something. She also said that she had a dance routine she practiced a lot for, but that it sadly won't be seen, likely referring to the AR live that she got stalin'd from.

The whole "fat" thing is because she's asian with a round face in a selfie she posted 6-7 years ago, and she once posted a picture of herself in tights with the camera coming directly from her torso/hips, with the foreshortening making her legs look "fat." She's not an amazing dancer, but she's cute because she works extra hard. You can see the results in her birthday concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQCIOD6Vl74
Comparing her and Rosemi to Pomu in the back you can see a clear difference in skill/experience, though. Losing Pomu in the live was a serious loss.

>> No.74219320

>>74219050
Everyone keeps saying "she's fat" but she's probably more fit than almost anyone in the corpo that kicked her out with how many varsity sports she's mentioned having experience in lmao

>> No.74219353

>>74219315
Agreed on this, it's like how she's not the most skilled singer but damn everyone loved hearing her voice

>> No.74219426

>>74218078
It probably wouldn't have even hit 1.2k but Enna raided the waiting room

>> No.74219495

>>74219353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQaHOhSbFVE
Her singing wasn't "good" but holy shit it's adorable.

>> No.74219502

>>74219315
Man watching this is depressing as shit. Can't believe only Rosemi is left.

>> No.74219603

>>74219502
On the bright side Rosemi has become the Queen of NijiEN.

>> No.74219607

>>74219502
It's okay, her birthday concert outdoes all of COLORS easily

>> No.74219610

>>74219315
Pomu actually had underground idol dancing experience herself in addition to knowing how to do choreography and etc. It's as much practice and training for that kind of thing you'll ever get on that front without being Japanese.

>> No.74219619

>>74204664
>What went wrong?
When your "talents" (lmao) are zoomer twitch whores but without main selling point of twitch whores

>> No.74219656

>>74219619
Men cant be whores, retard

>> No.74219669

>>74219315
>The whole "fat" thing is because she's asian with a round face in a selfie she posted 6-7 years ago
That's it? That's why sisters keep calling her a whale? God damn.

>> No.74219778

>>74212331
Poppadegen you drop your Fedora and murican purity with it

>> No.74219818

>>74209265
I loved Elira because I love Xenoblade. I don't love the forrmer anymore

>> No.74219819

>>74219656
Ones like you for sure lmao.

>> No.74219848

>>74216742
Wheeze

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>>74219818
>Xenoblade

>> No.74219930

>>74219669
she's been called fat since forever
guess you're another dramanigger who got here 2 months ago

>> No.74219948

>>74219669
It was probably on the doxxsite as a high up image (I never visited that hellhole so just guessing) but yeah. It does go to show how little they had to try and get selen on though that its about the main thing they could throw at her.

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>>74219818
Come back home Famelira.

>> No.74219991

>>74219819
Wrong faggot, I never had a gf so I'm pure unlike you
Dumb whore

>> No.74220022

>>74219669
Its funny how sisters ignoring bunch of photos of their idols like luxiem - it's fucking freak show.

>> No.74220061

>>74219991
That's what i'm talking about my neurodivergent transfriend.

>> No.74220088

>>74220061
>trans out of nowhere
KEKAROOOO

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>>74219972

>> No.74220143

>>74220088
I mean it's murrican board and we talking about EN livers....

>> No.74220175

>>74218583
they literally paid for choreography dumbass

>> No.74220257

>>74211657
>All of the first 20 members
*five waves
Where's the Selen, Nina, Mysta, and Yugo 3D?

>> No.74220287

>>74220143
>livers

Aaaand the sister outed herself again.
I swear it gets funnier every time.

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>>74214372
That's still a lot more than the $7.40 she would make as niji manager.

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>>74214372
To be fair, people tend not to donate in collabs because the messages don't get read. Even Fuwamoco's normally high superchats dry up in collabs.

>> No.74220603

>>74218757
>>74218892
>>74218971
Again, so? You can find plenty of holos who don't know how to dance, and their fans still love their performances. I agree on the AR being a shit show, but that particular clip is just cherry picking.

>> No.74220719

>>74220603
It's a person-to-person thing for this in particular. If you think it's just cherry-picking, then that's your opinion. Other people disagree, and that's just what I've observed in the line of thinking.

>> No.74220868

From somebody that is still subscribed to them:

They won't grow until they start interacting normally with rest of vtuber-sphere; And a lot of vtuber-sphere dislikes them because of what they did to Selen. Like, did anybody notice how whole NIJI en stopped guest collabbing to Twitch, thats because there was huge backlash on twitter from several prominent Twitch vtubers about them kicking off Selen on Christmas. They probably burned their entire bridge with Vshojo that way.

In my opinion a vtuber can only get more views by finding new audiences, and for past months all Niji was doing was being a close-clique, and receding deeper into the Nijisanji rabbit hole, pandering to the JP management ant and collaborating with Niji JP. You are english vtubers for a reason , and if you cast off that reason, I'm not gonna watch you.

>> No.74220905

>>74204664
Because AR live flopped

>> No.74221030

>>74220868
>Like, did anybody notice how whole NIJI en stopped guest collabbing to Twitch
I think everyone understands the situation and that people need to cool off before collabs with NijiEN can start again. I'm sure in two or three months you'll start seeing more of those. There was already that relatively big balloon one between NijiEN and Holostars EN.

>> No.74221218

>>74210996
>Return stream
kys

>> No.74221611

>>74221030
>I'm sure in two or three months you'll start seeing more of those.
I doubt it. Elira, Vox, Ike, Millie, Enna and Luca are toxic waste right now, and it will stay like that until someone decides to step forward and actually talk about everything that happened. Reimu and Scarle are the only girls who I can see getting some collabs, but I can't imagine them bringing new viewers to the branch. And the boys are pretty much doomed to second rate collabs thanks to the crazy chinese sisters poisoning everything they touch.

>> No.74221794

>>74219002
kekw, saying how niji fuck her chances literally as pomu, on her new persona shitting on niji too, yeah man they are buddies, the nijifanfics are getting crazier

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>>74219002
>She left on good terms.
You stupid fuck

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Update! Elira is running to china.

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>>74222084
I'm guessing Nijisanji is going to force everyone to try Bilibili. It'd work for the boys, but pic related for Elira. That's the breakdown of the money she got last stream. Her return stream was also >60% USD. This won't work for her.
Despite what some anons are saying her audience remain strongly in the NA sphere, if she's smart she'll bail if/when they merge the branches. A career as an indie (even with some bad stench) will be more fruitful for her than being forced to pivot to Asia.

>> No.74222398

>>74222084
kek

>> No.74222416

>>74222084
Fucking coward LMAO
Vox would be proud of you

>> No.74222470

>>74210069
Imagine the people that actually got tickets for the meet only go to to talk about all the controversy lmao

>> No.74222504

>>74222084
Holy shit they're actually doing it

>> No.74223132

>>74222084
bing chilling

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>>74216429

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>>74223141
God, I love Sayu so much

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>>74222084
niji thriving

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>> No.74223516
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>>74223141
It will never stop being funny that the sisters are willing to pay for Sayu's membership just to dig up some dirt on her, and the worst thing they can find is the usual 'I'm sad today' that they could get for free if they bothered to hate-watch her streams

>> No.74223895

>>74222084
Loser

>> No.74223946

>>74223269
FALSE WHERE IS THE FUCKING NUKE
APRIL IS ALMOST OVER
FALSE YOU HACK

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>>74223946

>> No.74224194

>>74222084
KWAB

>> No.74224237

>>74223516
>Sayu: Nijisanji is so terrible, they're horrible. They unjustly fired me, please hate them
>Sayu the next day: Why does nobody in Niji like me? I wish I could have stayed there longer. I fucked up my chance in Nijisanji. I admit I'm a menhera, maybe if I wasn't I'd still be there

Kek.

>> No.74224368

>>74222084
is this in preparation for something lmao

>> No.74224451

>>74222084
And just like that, any potential sympathy I might have had for her is completely and utterly gone. Innocent people don't run to stream on fucking Bilibili.

>> No.74224629

>>74204664
>still doing worse than cuck-connect
grim

>> No.74224732
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>>74224237
Setting aside the fact that those statements don't contradict each other, are taken out of context and there's even a couple of lies mixed on them, what does that have to do with the fact that sisters are still willing to pay for something they could get for free?

Sisters, if you have that much spare money lying around, you could give some of it to Millie. I think she needs it.

>> No.74224739

>>74219002
not-pomu called her previous job "heaven but they gave me wings made of cardboard and couldn't even fly properly"

>> No.74224798

>>74224739
Yeah, which is a reference to her 3D. The fact you fags grasp at straws prove she left on good terms

>> No.74224899

>>74224732
>No you're lying. LA LALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
I didn't even have to pay a dime to get that screenshot kek. If you can't see the contradiction in "they're a terrible and abusive company, I wish I was still there" then you're a retard

>> No.74225657

>>74204664
GRIM

>> No.74225722

>>74224629
at this point they should be compared with jewcorp instead

>> No.74225783

>>74223516
Actually someone of her own membership leaked this and posted a thread about it

>> No.74225917
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>>74224899
Anon, your basic reading comprehension needs work. Did I say you paid for the screenshot? I'm talking about the sisters who actually got a membership just to try to dig up some dirt.

Now, let's go back to your post and add some of that context you left out:
>Sayu: Nijisanji is so terrible, they're horrible. They unjustly fired me, please hate them
Here, Sayu is talking about the company. She has mentioned many times how poorly they treat their employees, while also praising her previous coworkers for their talent. The "they unjustly fired me" part is the lie here because she has admitted multiple times that she messed up and it was the best for everyone that they parted ways.

The thing is, getting fired is one thing, and "how" she got fired is another thing altogether. But let's continue, shall we?

>Sayu the next day: Why does nobody in Niji like me? I wish I could have stayed there longer. I fucked up my chance in Nijisanji. I admit I'm a menhera, maybe if I wasn't I'd still be there
This is just a continuation of her previous statement. She doesn't like the company but acknowledges that she messed up and could have tried harder. Even if Nijisanji is a difficult company to work for, there are plenty of people who seem happy to be there, so Sayu thinks it would have been smarter to try to play ball and just keep her head down, and maybe at least that way she would have made some friends.

But I digress. If you want, you can create a bait thread about Sayu. The point of this thread, however, is NijiEN dying, so this is the last thing I will say about the topic. Have a nice day.

>> No.74226261

>>74225917
>She has mentioned many times how poorly they treat their employees
How the fuck would she know? She had no friends and was there for a month. And she has complained about her termination not being justified while also saying she did do everything they said she did and she did deserve to be fired. Then she cried because her manager didn't console her good enough over the death of her pet. Kek

>She thinks the company is an abusive dumpster fire. She also wishes she was more normal of a human being so she could have stayed in the company longer and found happiness
She also thinks it was her first real chance of success. Sounds like she knows she blew it and is just constantly seething about being a "failure" in her own words

>> No.74226304

>>74204664
>League of Legends

of course the sexpest plays this shit
but why the fuck he streams it?

>> No.74226551

>>74226304
Can't play anything else. Aster is comically bad at games and a terrible coop partner to boot.

>> No.74227367

>>74217435
Oh no no no

>> No.74227878

>>74226304
Groom some underages

>> No.74227990

>>74219303
>Niji is NOT Idol-based
I'd be interested to hear what nijifags think are Nijisanji's strengths and core tenants as a unit.
Hololive has the loose, general goal of being an idol company. It produces music and concerts and generally engages in idol-adjacent activities. The day to day operations of streaming and fan interactions are to promote themselves, Hololive as a whole, and foster a relationship with the fanbase. Streaming is the means to an end. The goal of participating in concerts and making music gives their chuubas a greater purpose and a reason to improve themselves and their skills in the areas of singing, dancing, etc.
What is the Nijisanji equivalent? What is the end goal that streaming is facilitating? If they are not an idol company and have no aspirations in that regard then why put on a concert? Why make music? Do they only do it now because Hololive does it? This may sound like I'm just being shitty, but I think that the directionless, aspirationless nature of Nijisanji is a big part of why they've ended up where they are and if they ever want to become a factor internationally again they should be asking these questions as well.

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>>74210348

>> No.74228775

Bullying coworker to attempt suicide and calling her negligible might have been a mistake.

>> No.74228891

>>74227990
The 3rd quarter review already told us effectively. The goal is to make money, but in the short term. Almost all events they have done have been to meet that specific goal. Concerts make money? Push it out as quickly and cheaply as possible. The difference between the 2 is that Holo actually invests the time and money, for this example, training the girls up to do dance routines, as opposed to whatever the fuck they did during the AR live.

>> No.74229036

>>74228891
And we know this is the case because the Hoshimatic Project from last year, has shown that these projects happen over a lengthy course during the year

>> No.74229257

>>74204664
Riku should just axe nijien at this point

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>>74204664
I'll never not be mad

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>>74224739
And Nina called it Hollywood. so what? You would have known what she meant if you ever saw her before she became Pomu, but I guess this misinterpretation or simple lack of critical information about her literal lore is the mark of the newfag.
Even if you think this was meant positively, she basically said that "heaven" was a shithole of disappointment and broken promises. if this is your best argument to show how great Niji is, then it's just sad at this point.

>> No.74229480

>>74221030
>I think everyone understands the situation and that people need to cool off before collabs with NijiEN can start again. I'm sure in two or three months you'll start seeing more of those.
>I'm sure in two or three months you'll start seeing more of those.
>in two or three months

Niji's Q4 report is in a little less than 2 months. Will Niji EN still even exist "in two or three months" from now?

>> No.74229832

>>74229336
"sigh"

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That's a big loss from last year

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>>74222084
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.74230216

>>74204664
What's the point of nijien at this point?

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>>74208955
Do sister really?

>> No.74230770

>>74209877
You're delusional, RBMK reactors don't explode.

>> No.74230835

>>74229982
yo what site is that if you don't mind me asking

>> No.74230896

>>74229982
>70k decline
WTF

>> No.74230905

>>74230835
vrabi

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>>74230905
thx. ALSO 70k DECLINE NIJI THRIVING KEKEKEK

>> No.74231061

>>74209265
I'm confused. If Elira is your oshi why would you assume that her side of the story is a lie?

>> No.74231155

>>74229982
*whoop whoop* PULL!! UP!!
*whoop whoop* PULL!! UP!!
*whoop whoop* PULL!! UP!!

>> No.74231462

>>74229982
>71k loss
Oh dear jesas

>> No.74231539

>>74204664
Public opinion of Nijisanji is just in the gutter and would take years of building up good will to recover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnRBTiUo8AY

>> No.74231585

>>74204664
>Battletech
I kneel to Scarle, /choc/huubas are too powerful

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>>74229982

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>>74231722
Holy recline, WTF? Fatter recline than Vox. Looks like it's over for Holokeks

>> No.74231866

>>74222363
It depends on whether Elira wants the money or the clout of being attached to a famous (if damaged) brand more. I thought some anon once said her family is rich, so she could easily continue riding along with Niji.

A lot of newcomers to the various creative industries seem more interested in being paid in social media likes, followers and clout as long as their basic needs are being taken care of. I've never understood it.

>> No.74232229

>>74229982
And he had that 60k black screen collab with Elira just a few months ago

>> No.74232437

>>74231866
Isn’t she stuck with them because Anycolor is sponsoring her visa?

>> No.74232700

>>74229480
I kind of doubt that they'll actually shut down the EN branch because if they do that's it for them. They're pulling the plug on what was Hololive's most profitable market last year. This isn't India where pulling out meant passing up on a few shit-smeared rupies. This would be a massive admission of failure in the entire English speaking market. It would be YEARS if ever before they could try and enter the market again.
I don't think they'll shut down EN not because EN is doing well, but because Anycolor actually cannot afford for NijiEN to fail.

>> No.74232848

>>74232700
That means it's gonna be a slow burn for kurosanji until they make a proper apology video

>> No.74232979
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>>74232229
yea, piece of shit threw his "friend" under the bus and sucked hard on that nijidick

>> No.74233136

>>74232700
They’re fucked either way, the EN branch is anemic as fuck and will just be a continual blight on their investor reports.
Having 4+ continual quarters of downward trends is fucking terrible for optics, this is why they killed KR and ID to begin with before they went public.

>> No.74233177

>>74232848
The fact that they're still keeping that black screen video up, even after Elira started streaming again, pretty much indicates that they'll burn the company to the ground before issuing an apology.

>> No.74233781

>>74219002
Nigger

>> No.74233947

>>74233177
I’ll at least give them that deleting it will instantly trigger a tsunami of laughter at them, but I guess the managerial heads fear that PR hit more than the current one.

>> No.74234043

>>74229982
kek

>> No.74234702

>>74204664
>Vantacrow has higher views than the rest
I honestly didn't see that coming.

>> No.74235223

>>74204664
lol lmao even, that's a paid event, literally paywall. No fucking way that's gonna heal f2ps

>> No.74235436

>>74234702
Vanta actually has a western audience which shows that the branch can recover but they’ll need more Vantas.

>> No.74235904

>>74234702
I'm not, dude is smart enough to see shitstorms coming and get out of the way while just doing his own thing. He got a lot of traction for being one of the few consistent streamers during the selen apocalypse and somehow managed to both avoid drama and not kiss ass at the same time

>> No.74236316

>>74215928
Hololive en's numbers are objectively down from 2021. Cope.

>> No.74236707

>>74233947
Oh yes, because as we see in this thread people are definitely NOT laughing at Nijisanji.
>Streisand Effect
That's when something obscure blows up, because of an overreaching pushback to it. With that video everyone and their normie friends already know about it.

>> No.74236823

>>74235436
>they’ll need more Vantas.
Exact mindset that got niji to where they are. Accelerating to try and get another Vanta will only sabotage the first Vanta.
tbf they don't have any other options than to shoot for the stars now that they shot themselves in the foot, but it's not going to save them.

>> No.74236887

>>74236707
>>With that video everyone and their normie friends already know about it.
Yes, but their claims within it are serious to the level of it being admitting total defeat if they nuke it. Pretty sure that’ll actually kill their chances at recovery permanently, but it’s just speculation on my part.

>> No.74236963

>>74235436
The only time I've watched him was during one of the big FF14 collab streams.
I actually had some respect for him putting up with how actually braindead most of NijiEN is for wiping 4 times to the first boss of the game.
The first boss that is literally a free win as long as you do the one very thing that he repeated multiple times. I was surprised he didn't just lose it because 99% of players I know would have told them to just uninstall after the third time.

>> No.74237117

>>74235904
Oh yeah, the closest to drama he was in was hex going
>yeah I flushed my friends grandpa's ashes down the toilet, he was so upset about it, why are people so sensitive.
so he really avoided the heat even when people tried to bring it to him.

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>>74219002

>> No.74239173

>>74219031
I've been away from this hellsite for a month and a half now but what the fuck is this???
Is this really the supposed big event that NDF has been touting for years?

>> No.74239705

>>74223141
Holy rent free

>> No.74239784

>>74225917
English is not nijisisters' primary language, please understand

>> No.74239955

>>74204664
Whatever went wrong, I'm sure its negligible

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>>74229982
holy shit

>> No.74240261

>>74231061
Nta. If you think you have to side with a streamer just because the character they are portraying is your oshi then you need help. You'd the perfect target for cults and those late night tv evangelists

>> No.74240278

>>74233136
I agree that they're pretty boned, but I feel like allowing EN to slowly fail while leaving the door open for a turnaround might play to investors better than closing the branch. Closing the branch along with the other closures that they made to get themselves ready to go public will further the idea that Nijisanji has extremely limited growth potential outside of Japan and hasn't been successful in any foreign market.
Nijisanji also has never re entered a market that it bailed out of so it's not like they can point to some success story of trying again and making it work the second time. Following the trend that they've set, pulling the plug on a branch means pulling the plug on that market as well which in this case means pulling the plug on 20% of Earth's population and a very large portion of the population with enough disposable income to afford luxuries like supas, memberships, merch, and concerts.
Investors care about growth first and foremost. What you are now and what have been in past don't matter nearly as much as where you're going. If Niji pulls out of the largest growth market in the industry and retreats back to Japan where the market is saturated where is the growth potential?

>> No.74240433
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Based Vanta and Claude stealing Elira's virginity

>> No.74240646

>>74240433
poor shu...
imagine orbiting her for years and not getting a single crumb of her pussy

>> No.74240956

>>74229982
I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning, I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own

>> No.74241162

>>74239173
It's the AR live thsy got shitcanned last year that was hurriedly cobbled back together because Riku promised to have EN events during the dogeza stream and because they didn't revise their revenue projections for yhis year after firing Selen and thendrama that ensued and now they need every penny they can get to try to meet their target

>> No.74241486

>>74217435
Was this taken on Aster's end screen? I knew that faggot was bad but holy shit

>> No.74241501

>>74229982
lmao
isn't he a chronic numberfag too?

>> No.74241611

>>74226261
>How the fuck would she know? She had no friends and was there for a month.

Sister... You didn't even read her document.

>> No.74241674

>>74241501
Yeah, he would legit cancel or reschedule streams if he didn't get the numbers he expected on the waiting screen and blame his wifi

>> No.74241777

>>74232979
nah bro he totally would've quit in solidarity

>> No.74241947

>>74226261
I'm sure this is a foreign concept for you subhuman sisters but emotional management is part of a talent manager's job as well. Though you wouldn't know because your oshi isn't even a real human being but an inanimate lifeless corporation.
But for most reasonable people, between
>"My pet died"
>"My condolences, I am here for you. Let me know what I can do to help."
And
>"My pet died"
>"Fuck off we don't care. Deal with it yourself"
The choice is obvious. But again this is something you sociopaths whose only emotion is NIJISEETHE wouldn't understand.

>> No.74242118

>>74207326
NTA but if they went the 'claim to have soul' route, you know as well as I do, that they would just have all the talents tweet "AR LIVE has SOUL" in a very "Thank you artists" or "I <3 my Family" cringe way.

But imagine the parrot videos

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>>74216361
I wish we can turn back time...

>> No.74243211

>>74231061
NTA but I'm not going to ignore clear proof of someone being a complete piece of shit just because I enjoyed their professional work. The black screen video is completely inexcusable, especially considering its release timing. That one video made me turn completely against Elira and Enna despite defending them to that point.

>> No.74243230

>>74216361
Sobering post.

>> No.74243863

>>74241947
For all we know, they did say "I'm sorry your dog died". Don't know why you'd bring up your dead dog to your manager when you're suspended from your work other than trying to get pity from them so they can take pity on you. Sounds like Sayu was just desperately trying to get some mercy

>> No.74244239

>>74240278
>allowing EN to slowly fail while leaving the door open for a turnaround might play to investors better than closing the branch.
And it was working perfectly. Right up until they fired Selen and put out that "negligible" notice, which had more or less the same energy as the captain of an airplane going on the PA system to tell the passengers that the engines are operating normally.
And then the black screen happened, followed by a general boycott. The investors noticed the drop in subscribers, superchat revenue, and merch sales.
And then the Q3 report was published. The investors noticed that not only was there a 40% dropoff in YOY revenue for EN, but that this nosedive did NOT include Selen's termination or the fallout from it. The stock tanked, had a dead cat bounce, and has been steadily declining ever since.

They have a week plus a few hours to make the turnaround the investors want them to make. If by some miracle Enna's 3D gets more CCV and SC than Kiryu Coco's graduation, and the Singapore show sells more tickets than the World Cup, the investors will want Niji EN to maintain that degree of revenue growth in perpetuity. Absent such a miracle, the investors will see the not-miraculous Q4 numbers in June, and then will ask Riku about it to his face in July.

>> No.74244438

>>74209602
Rent Free

Seems like she can't let NIJI go despite everything she says.
Makes you wonder if everything she has said until now....

>> No.74244790

>>74232700
>>74232848
>>74233177
How much can the investors twist their arm into a proper apology for Selen's termination and the black screen?

>> No.74245236

>>74244790
The investors seem much more interested in bailing out than saving Anycolor.

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>>74244239
Niji was all the way up to 3820 after the buyback and growing pretty well.
You can see exactly what happened on Feb 6, then again on the 13th.

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>>74229982

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>>74229982
>>74241501
>>74241674
>Was going to sudoku for seren
>Now has to sudoku for shamefur dispray

>> No.74245554

>>74222084
lol, but this is just the beginning. Expect more EN livers to transition over there.

>> No.74245814

>>74244239
>The investors noticed the drop in subscribers, superchat revenue, and merch sales
funny thing is that the subs numbers were in a fall since late last year iirc. What's grim is that some channels totally reversed the somewhat natural growth trend into a decline for quite a while now

>> No.74245895

>>74241674
man that's just sad

>> No.74246189

Someone post the screenshot of Vox cancelling his stream because the numbers dropped lol

>> No.74246335

>>74244790
There is literally no proper apology at this point. The only proper apology would have been a summary termination of everyone involved in the black screen stream, a total retraction of all statements made within the stream and by her termination notice, and an official apology video addressed to Selen, all within the first couple days after the black screen stream took place. Anything they do now will look hollow and fake.

>> No.74246842

>>74244790
anything coming out publically months after what happened is going to be just hollow or insincere now that the branch is getting their shit kicked in and dealing with the fallout of what they've done. The riku one was somewhat okay PR wise but it came after that black screen video so they ended up contradicting themselves yet again with the fucking CEO in tow.

>> No.74246902

>>74244239
>then will ask Riku about it to his face in July
and the belief is that his plan is to shutter the branch rather than give some canned bullshit statement about encountering unanticipated struggles in the EN market and laying out a plan for turning things around? That's what seems more likely to me, but maybe we're beyond that point by now.
Either way it's hard for me to envision a situation so dire that Anycolor would rather weather the fallout of a branch closure/merger than accept the lumps that will come as a result of investors seeing them have a few soft quarters. It strikes me as anons thinking more in terms of what's funny or dramatic rather than what's realistic.

>> No.74246980

>>74204664
>battletech
am i actually going to watch a niji?

>> No.74247277

>>74246842
Even without the context of the black screen, Riku's "apology" was a farce. His apology was only to the investors, and the only thing he apologized for the IR statement saying that Selen's termination was negligible.
And he still managed to piss off the investors with that apology. He did a 90 degree bow, but he did it with his hands behind his back; the people he intended to "apologize" to were not impressed with his lack of sincerity.

He'll have a chance to do a proper 90 degree bow at the meeting in July.

>> No.74247760

>>74247277
well it was a farce, but it could at least deescalate the shitstorm they themselves created by acting somewhat professional and by having the CEO on board

>> No.74248127

I remember Ike being really angry that they cancelled it the first time. Based on the screenshots, it's one of the few smart decisions that AC has made for his branch. Is it possible that Ike is - dare I say it - dumber than Vox?

>> No.74248320

>>74248127
?
Ike literally walked away scot free from the black screen video. he's smarter than most, he knew what not to say and streamed like normal, while also taking part in basically all music related projects that nijien produces
the only problem is that he's swedish, unfortunately

>> No.74248704

>>74248320
How? HOW did he walk away scot free

I'm not denying that he did at this point because everyone seems to have forgotten that he was in that shit, but he was in fact IN THAT SHIT

>> No.74248915

>>74248704
Because people have finite attention. This place had it for Vox and Elira shared a lot of her audience with Selen. Anyone could have been #3, except Enna or Millie, and they'd have walked away scott free.

>> No.74248934

>>74248704
He has a forgettable voice and what he said was neutral for the most part
He overshadowed by two greater idiots, Elira and Vox, who went out of their way to shit all over Selen but ended up shitting on themselves.
Ike just sat there crinkling his water bottle.

>> No.74249575

>>74248704
because he's literally that forgettable

>> No.74249692

>>74248934
Keep in mind this was prerecorded and had a script for it. That vid was somehow the best possible outcome they could've cooked in their minds.

>> No.74249695

>>74208955
This is why phasefags are always shitting on you sisters. Imagine being in one of the top 2 vtuber corpos and getting mogged by some literal who 4chan grifter in a bunny suit

>> No.74249749

>>74236316
I wonder what was happening in 2021 that was keeping most people indoors and allowed for vtubers and other online media to thrive. Kill yourself subhuman

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>>74248704

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