/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>having to bribe people to make clips
Is Phase doing okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
Doesn't Phase already have a handful of clippers that get paid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
They should do it for free? You must be a janny.

[Anonymous No.]

it's funny because they've wasted so much money on advertising and people still only watch pippa

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837625
A corpo paying clippers just to clip their vtubers isn't the norm, Cuck-chan

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>>73837710
People getting paid is bad? Fuck off janny.

[Anonymous No.]

BUY THE FUCKING COFFEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
they're the second most popular en corpo now coma-chama

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
>1 of each coffee
I think it's a neat idea for a coffee enterprise to advertise themselves with vtubers, it's a novelty idea and panders to the office workers of us like myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
no lol
they are spamming rm channels with the usual "if you know you know" and the owners actually replying to them
all organic ofc

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
Phasecucks clowned Idol pedos when their corpo did that btw
watch them defend this

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837826
Except most of the comments were hololive fans saying it was IRyS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
I've been thinking about this.
They spent so much money already. I don't think they're earning as much as they're burning money, considering how small they still are.
I'm worried that the entire phase company will just suddenly get canned after years of not earning a profit

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>>73837335
filian is paying clippers an incentive too

[Anonymous No.]

>complaining about free money

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837948
irystocrats have no shame with their shit, and none of those have an oshi emote on display
nice try

[Anonymous No.]

>>73838100
Cease anon, your newfag is showing

[Anonymous No.]

>>73838261
Honestly what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837778
I never said it's bad, Cuck-chan
I'm saying it isn't the norm. Companies don't need to pay clippers since they can monetize their channels if they want to. Even without monetization, as long as the vtubers have memorable or clippable moments they'll be clipped and uploaded by someone on youtube. I guess now it makes sense why phase has so many random boring clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>73838336
Okay? Easy money is still good.

[Anonymous No.]

It's about 10K USD total cash. Another 2-3grand in store credit IF that. That isn't much for what will be effectively a grass roots ad campaign

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837798
ok alternate universe chama

[Anonymous No.]

Everything PC does is based on gambling on experimental shit, hoping something sticks so they can climb to greater relevance. Giga menhera streamers, haha xd abusive manager relationship, being buddybuddy with their mods (who are half managers, unpaid) and now this clipper begging campaign. I'll give 'em some credit for trying new shit out but god damn, they should work on things like consistent streaming first

[Anonymous No.]

what exactly is the issue? community engagement is a good thing

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>>73837625
Turn on ads then if you want to be a bitch about it. Sakana isn't going to do shit.

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>>73837798
How many people will show up to a large PC event? Like, the Advent New Years outfits got around 25k-45k ccv if I remember correctly. And the Niji concert got 24k. How competitive is PC in this area?

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>>73837826
>>73837948
>>73838261
>>73838317
What the fuck are any of you talking about?

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>>73838016
I'm not sure why you're making baseless conjecture and guesses, you just look like a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not surprised by that since they have "phase is without a doubt the best company" simp (content creator).

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
>this anon is still trapped in early 2023

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>>73837710
Phase is successful exactly because they don't conform to the norms.

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>>73839332
>bait thread
>what is the issue?
OP's mom drank too much alcohol while pregnant so he's retarded enough to make this thread
Beyond that, Phase already has enough clippers, they're just incentivizing them because reasons
>4NGRXT

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>>73840098
>literally copying the jews
>who they mocked at the time
good to know they follow the kike way, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>73840409
money laundry
gotta pay back bvtm for its services

[Anonymous No.]

>>73840098
Do you mean the norm of holo and niji having vtubers with 20-40k avg ccv?
The only reason phase is getting bigger right now is because they're burning money more than what the livers combined could earn

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>>73837625
they have those here too lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837948
>it was the holofags
yeah sure
and that's why phase keeps using the same JP talent for their EN branch clipping ads
suuure

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
>Is Phase self promoting?

YEAH!
*tea kettle noises*

[Anonymous No.]

>store credit

[Anonymous No.]

>>73841566
I tried to post proof of phase cucks falseflagging as holo fans and stirring drama and I got banned, rumao.
I guess the jannies are also on the phase payroll

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
This,
phase is big around here doing get me wrong, but in the industry as a whole their a blip on the radar compared to corpos like Brave and VSPO, let alone hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73841459
>they're burning money more than what the livers combined could earn
That's what a company is supposed to do to grow, not piss it away on yachts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842072
It is. The problem is there's still barely any result. As the other guy pointed out, most of the talents are still a bunch of 3views that barely sell merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842179
They have a positive cashflow, so what's the issue?
>that barely sell merch
I think they do fine on merch, why do you think they don't? I feel like you're just running off a bunch of baseless assumptions

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>>73842179
Lumi undersells the most, and she is one of the big 3-4 in PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
>store credit
GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
Their corpo is pretty bad overall, but the blue haired girl in OP pic is actually pretty good.
Hopefully a Holo scout can get her into gen 4. She deserves better than having to pander to Pippa's EOP normalfag fans.

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>>73838100
>>73837335
I see they're taking notes from andrew tate

[Anonymous No.]

>>73841459
>niji having regular 5 views
this is new to me
i thought kazuha wasn't streaming frequently

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842556
>EOPfag finding out that nijijp has other vtubers other than Kuzuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842179
>The problem is there's still barely any result.
When they debuted gen 3 it was a massive buff, and that was just before the new year, there's been massive results.

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>>73837679
It's 2024. Phase is now the second bigget EN vtubing company on YouTube. You've missed a lot anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842683
>handful of 5 views out of dozens upon dozens of low 3views
grim
vs
>dozens of high 4 view and 5views
thriving

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842750
>2nd biggest EN corpo
Pretty sure that title goes to Vshojo anon, by a longshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842893
>phase has neither
What are you trying to say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
what's the problem here? small independent company incentivizing people to help them grow with ads and money. From what I can understand, you just do the same shit you normally do by clipping, and then you get extra if you win.

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>>73837335
>1 of each coffee
>+30 bags of coffee
kek, broke uni students go for it

[Anonymous No.]

>money and store credit
Yeah nah sorry please pay me in One (1) Lia date, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
Here you go, a potential viral clip to rival Miko's "nigga" moment https://files.catbox.moe/s4t2dn.webm

I'll take that $2k now, you can keep the store credit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837948
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>73843042
roru
rumao
you must be living in 2022
vshojo already imploded with half the talents going to mythical

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
Why are they even doing this when they already have niggas clipping their vtubers and it gets decent views?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73850753
holy cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
what happen to niji this time anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73841770
>>73842411

...Which is a bonus added to the real money prize. You're not making any point here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73850753
What is this schizo actually on

[Anonymous No.]

>>73850753
If that is imploding then sign me up for the next one, they are literally the only company being normie accepted aside Holo massive fame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73852608
>normie accepted
lolwut

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive clippers? They want views.
Small corp clippers? They are just groomers. They are not doing it for the money but for the attention their oshis give them. Dont fuckin pay them money to groom your vtubers, stupid Fishman.

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>>73851090
>>73852587
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>73852500
That 2000 monopoly money not petrol dollar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73839778
A decade old video of Currently Clara from Phase Connect has been picked up by YouTube's algorithm and is being pushed towards those who watch or have interacted with Vtuber stuff on YouTube, other videos are being pushed too, funny thing, most if not all of these girls happen to be Asians born in Canada. Now, Why the fuck? No fucking idea, what a specific way this algorithm works, man.

Oh and ofc, IRystocrats with no shame/humanity on them happen to be the majority commenting on these videos.

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>>73854303
>Homo pic
>Shitting on IRyS or her fans
Say it ain’t so! And anyone who thinks irys is Canadian ain’t a IRyStocrat. Just clip watchers who think they found le forbidden knowledge of a Holo EXCEPT it’s actually from a litteral who from phase instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>73854510
Oh, FFS anon, don't rip my head off for not adding “And no, IRyS is not from Canada” on my post somewhere. Also, I'm ESL, so I'm lazy. Anyway, like I said, the videos that are many years old, got picked and are being pushed on people's timelines are, the Clara one, 2 videos of the dogs, 1 of a lolita fashion cosplayer, some dancing girl with brown hair and a black haired girl singing, ad yes, all are confirmed to be born in Canada. To finish, no I'm not shitting on IRyS, I used to be a dedicated follower of her until I naturally stopped watching her streams. I only listen to her Karaokes or watch special content. In all the videos I wrote are filled with IRyStocrats simply thinking If any of them are IRyS, specially the Clara one, that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73841459
>>73842179
the problem with people in here is that they don't understand scale, talk out of their asses and either undershoot numbers they want lower or overshoot shit because they think one corpo is built like the other
merch has been largely said to be selling very well, they've done sponsorships and the ceo being chinese opened a lot of doors that traditional jp run corpos don't normally get and scale is important, we're talking about a corp with much smaller operating costs that isn't public,
also this is an ad campaign for roughly around 10K which is far under most ad campaigns you can run online, it's also constant ad placement on youtube and other platforms and it's hoping to start a boost in trends on all these platforms
taking even the most basic google trends numbers, also this affects all 27 of the talents so instead of just promoting pippa or tenma it's boosting all the talents since people will go for the smaller members more likely to award them a prize
it's really not a bad idea when you put it all in perspective

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>>73837335
This is an out of the box attempt to drum up publicity and attention without being able to raise capital and spending a ton via the traditional means of advertising to get the attention of people. A lot of that capital firepower was already spent with the traditional advertising method Phase's new JP gen when they debuted last year. It was expensive enough to basically burn through what cash reserves Fishman had and I still don't know why he tried to crack the oversaturated JP market and decided to burn his money there. So this is basically what is left on what he can muster. And it's not like their viewership didn't grow, they were one of the few small corpos that benefited from the exodus of NijiEN fans mostly alongside other smaller EN corpos going under so Phase has gotten a few of their members from being 3views into regular 4views now. Out of all the small corpos, it's the most stable and has outlasted all its competitors of similar age.
But I think Brave Group has the bigger cash cannon and will be able to outspend Phase to get the #2 position soon overtaking them. They don't have the right timing but they are fairly big already and are actively expanding faster than anyone in the space at the moment. They aren't as rock solid as Phase and it is still unknown if copying NijiEN's playbook without falling into the same pitfalls is actually still a viable strategy or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73838815
>easy money
Only if you don't value your time. It takes quite a time to make a proper clip. Remember it's a contest; your chance of getting rewarded is lower than 10% so you have to take it into account

[Anonymous No.]

>>73842683
think operating costs, if you have tons of staff and few golden geese, you're paying for all that staff with that one talent, now I'm not saying you don't make money, but I am saying you're like twitch, very middle heavy and open to fuck ups like what happened earlier this year, where one talent leaving is big enough to cause a stink that bad in your share price whereas last year it was less than a blip

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>>73837811
I’ve said before that as much as Phase coffee is a meme, it’s a unique item I don’t think any other vtuber corpo has tried. I thought about buying some for myself simply for the novelty and I think thats part of the appeal, only problem is that it was like $50 in my shitty leaf currency and I’m not paying that much just to try something I might hate. If you could get habitual coffee drinkers to pick up your product, that could easily be a very steady revenue stream, if a larger company like Holo tried this it might actually pay off.

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>>73854853
I agree with that second part but not that first part,
I work in an advertizing agency and from what fish has said when it comes to his own liquidity what he's spent overall for gen 3 and jp has been more than before (basically zero) but it's been extremely conservative,
most corpos will drop 10k on a single ad campaign and it can seem like a lot of money but even with the shortest margins that's only 1000 standees sold at their store
also depending on the contracts the talents have you're making your money back pretty quickly off of one merch drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>73841211
Phase did this before the jews even existed retardchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>73854853
>It was expensive enough to basically burn through what cash reserves Fishman had
This is the only thing wrong with what you said. From what I've gathered Sakana has a fuck ton of capitol from previous business ventures and is probably one of the reasons phase is still here today.

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>>73854853
I think you're overstating how much was spent on advertising. Anybody competent and it's safe to assume Fishman is at least competent would've factored in startup costs for a JP branch. I highly doubt that he would've burned so much capital considering he has 2 JP talents since day one and has living breathing proof on his roster of how difficult it is to crack the JP market in addition to historical evidence like vhsojo's attempts with a bigger budget and more well known JP talents like kson and mike. He would've spent some cash but it wouldn't be a make or break amount

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>>73854853
>Phase Wars 2 is about to happen
>oh, let's do Clipping Contest 2 while we're at it
All this headcanon for simple nostalgiabaiting. They're running out of ideas, not capital
>So this is basically what is left on what he can muster
Except they're probably going to have a big presence at Offkai like they always do, which costs a fuckton of money, even more now that HoloENs are attending

[Anonymous No.]

The first half of this thread is completely asinine. People /here/ keep looking at phase the same way they look at Holo or Niji when they should be looking at them in terms of Kawaii, V4mirai, Vrev...
Phase has been able to break out of the "small" corpo tier and has become what I would consider a medium sized corpo. Fishman has plenty of captital saved up and something as small as 10k is not going to break the bank for him. I know it's ridiculous of me to expect anything else but fucking' A this console wars bullshit is annoying.

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>>73855129
Wasn't aware he talked about this so soon, was this on X or an interview?
>>73855433
It's a good amount of capital he has built up but I don't think it's enough to get a Vtuber corporation into the big leagues hence why he wanted to invest in a Vtuber corporation in the first place and not make one until he essentially had no choice. But he doesn't care obviously about growing gangbusters and slow and steady is better here than going Icarus with your entire venture given how many graves there are in this industry.
>>73855442
Probably, but I still really don't understand why he decided to enter the JP market. It been a done thing a long time ago and no reason to pull out if it is making money and sustaining itself.
>>73855638
They aren't going to outspend Holo at Offkai, but it makes sense for them to attend still even though they got slighted really badly there last year and the newer girls are attending so it's for publicity for getting a new audience in for whoever attends. Probably also is the hope that Holo there and the community backlash from last year makes this year's event worth it and run better but it might be Offkai's last chance on this front.

[Anonymous No.]

>10 million clipper
>still no rie bbc song clip
it's like they hate free money

[Anonymous No.]

>>73855820
>I still really don't understand why he decided to enter the JP market
1. He wanted to get his foot in the door even if it wasn't going to be immediately successful. (Like he did with EN)
2. I honestly believe he wanted to appease his two original JP talents. They may not be as big as the EN girls but they're still a valued part of the company.

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>>73855129
late last year he did a QnA withe shiina and jelly where he talked about it, they had a whole part about how he's budgeted in the early years compared to now if you want to look into it, he seems to run a pretty tight ship

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>>73855914

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>>73855926
>>73855820

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>>73854818
This thread has been retarded but this is the correct rational. It's actually a very small amount to pay for an ad campaign and if even somewhat successful those dollars it will be many many times better spent than they would be on any kind of traditional advertisement campaign. It encourages people to make additional content for all 27 talents. If people buy in it's also going to be a huge push for Phase in the algorithm. If YouTube sees a lot of people making Phase content YouTube is going to think a lot of people really like Phase so it's going to start recommending more Phase content to more people. It's kind of an ouroboros, once it gets started it feeds into itself.

People that think this is too much or that it's a sign of desperation are extremely fucking dumb. This is very little in terms of spending especially for the scale that it has to benefit the company. Niji is on fire right now, there are a lot of disenfranchised fans out there. Sakana sees a gap and he's trying to exploit it the best he can with the limited resources he has available. This is incredibly smart spending and this is the perfect time to push. Honestly I had been expecting a harder push for a while now. He would be incredibly dumb not to try at this moment in time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
>advertising
You mean on /vt/? That just got them schizos. Not mainstream success, which vshojo has way more than them. I doubt a big phase event can ever get comparable tourism numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73855820
>Probably, but I still really don't understand why he decided to enter the JP market.
Because where else can Phase go? No-one wants to deal with mainland China. ID? No chance. Extreme longshot even more than JP. More EN? They just did that. CAD is the highest it's been vs the Yen in a decade, they've now got a reasonable size roster of JP talents of I count 6 native in addition to Tenma, Clara, Iori, so they've got a varied collab rotation with a bridge to EN via those 3. Most of Phase JP is anywhere between 1-2 Finanas so while they're not a runaway success, that's decent for small corpo standards going into foreign territory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73856848
>between 1-2 Finanas
The fact that this has become an actual unit of ccv measurement is fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73856016
I just watched it, thank goodness for timestamps. Yeah, he does run his company well but that is kinda a minimum exception given he's been doing startups for a long time. But if his spending seemed to be low then it is probably what it is. Seemed to have worked, all the JP girls are above 10k subs so in 4 months or so, not bad at all considering where V4Mirai/globie is at after they started out in a similar short timeframe.
>>73856224
>Sakana sees a gap and he's trying to exploit it the best he can with the limited resources he has available.
I would think he should be taking more risks now to grow viewership at this point in time but getting capital investment in entertainment is hard nowadays when the money isn't flowing into anything but AI. It's not that he lacks it but capital still seems to be his biggest problem in getting Phase to grow by not being able to hold the large scale type of events that get people hyped up and to watch. Yeah it is captial intensive and not efficient spending but it is proven to work.
>>73856848
ID would've been the natural choice here because of the nature of what he is familiar with in terms of language with Chinese diaspora being a big minority there to help him through what would've been needed but that ship has sailed. If we're talking about what he's comfortable with, Mainland CHina or Taiwan would've been viable if the Coco situation never happened but no one is going to risk doing business there ever again and risk their company going through a headache of that magnitude outside of Nijisanji's joint venture which Sakana doesn't have the resources or connections to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73857086
I sometimes wonder why an Aia unit was never considered

[Anonymous No.]

>>73838100
$25 per 100k views is insulting

[Anonymous No.]

>>73857136
>ID would've been the natural choice
No it isn't. He has a roster full of JP speakers. He has 0 ID speakers. Let's look at Holo ID - the only corpo ID branch that is still alive. They needed a shit ton of luck in recruitment(Moona, Kobo, Kaela) and PekoMoona to really get going. And that's with Holo branding. As for the Chinese diaspora there - they ain't doing shit for him. He can speak it - so fucking what? Protip-there's a significant a Chinese minority diaspora in nearly every country on the planet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73838016
They are cash flow positive silky goose

[Anonymous No.]

>>73839901
Maulington should die (in real life while I play Minecraft)

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda funny how a bait thread turned into actual discussion regarding phase. It's kinda nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858119
God that guy is a gigantic faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858158
This honestly happens a lot with phase bait threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858158
That's what happens when 80%% of your fanbase is here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858642
It's not 2022 anymore anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858158
I'm surprised that it isn't filled with doxing half of Phase, which is what most seething threads result in

[Anonymous No.]

Phase has been recruiting for clippers and video editors for ages. They even had a dedicated section in the "Work with us" tab on their website.

I get why they are doing it. Lia, Pippa, Lumi. They've got very dedicated clippers. Not Theo has basically introduced Tenma to tons of casuals via his work. Nobody however is being as forward with clipping towards Gen 2 or JP unless prior names are included in a stream with them.

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>>73850753
Nigga Vshojo has been on an absolute huge incline numbers and quality wise since those 3 quit.
Just because the idea of them being successful pisses you off doesnt mean its not true.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Phase Connect because all the girls look like they could be pushed over really easily. I don't know why, but I like the idea of pushing over girls these days. There isn't even the thought of sexual or further physical violence after the fact. Just the pushing is enough.

Michiru looks like the most pushable, so I guess I'd choose her. I'd love to feel her delicate figure give only the slightest resistance against the force of my arms before disconnecting from me entirely and crashing to the ground with a light thud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73859053
holy cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>73859393
How is what I said cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858158
>surprised and Ad attracted phaseniggers
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73858158
It's almost as if phase connect fans make up 80% of the catalogue. unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837811
There's the problem: gamers don't drink coffee because it's not sweet enough, and even half of Phase can't drink it. Now, rightoids will gladly drink coffee because they're on a grindset, and you can import coffee from any shit hole for pennies on the dollar, but compared to GamerSupps, which doesn't need an expensive coffee machine to enjoy, can be ANY flavor instead of "mmm, fertilizer and pesticides", and can actually be creative with its packaging and has somewhat reusable containers for something ACTUALLY useful, like protein powder. Come to think of it, if most the audience is dudes and Phase girls like guys who lift, it would be stupid easy to promote something like that.

I swear to God the majority of the coffee is just being dumped at maid cafes and con events to make their return, and they can dissolve their coffee for better merch ideas instead of disposable subscriptions no one likes. Either that, or get a blend that my oshi likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
Half the corpo regularly sits at the 800-1200 range and the rest at 300-600 with only a couple at 200-300 and a couple over 1500 to 2100.
Phase is the first western mid corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73857240
Less impetus to immortalize her as a joke in the industry

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>>73860880
For real, I will never buy coffee but I'd buy the shit out of a Phase drink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73843042
vshojo isn't a corpo in the traditional sens, they don't really want to grow their ccv like a traditional corpo, they want to add more sponsors, it's why most twitch streamers go after each other the way they do and get categories banned, they won't get any new viewers, but they can snipe a few sponsors that will move to you, it's also the reason why they will flat out tell you they don't give a shit about superchats, it's not nearly as important as getting an extra sponsor which will splurge like crazy on them and the perks for your streamer group when overall the ccv is usually around what niji or others will do

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837335
Phase gives me menhera hags. Good enough for me.

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>>73837335
It's smart actually. The thinking is:
>offer incentives to clippers
>existing clippers of other talents/corporations watch Phase chuubas to find clippable moments possibly converting them to watch and clip for Phase chuubas permanently
>many first-time clippers will be drawn in with the possibility of winning rewards and might decide that they enjoy doing it or cultivate a following leading to them watching/clipping for Phase chuubas permanently
>net result of more clippers, more clips, and additional advertisement for Phase
At a cost of ~$12,000 + some merch that's just sitting on the shelf anyway it's a pretty good play. Clippers are an important part of growth for corpos and Phase recognizes it as an area for improvement. 12 grand is much better spent on a method of advertisement that could eventually self-perpetuate rather than traditional marketing efforts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73859053
I'm just surprised on how Nyanners has really fallen in CCV since she left. Hell Pippa mogs her even on Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
I think their issue is they got a low ceiling, they dont do the idol thing but that's also what vrings in fans. For example they can't even do a proper idol concert, expenses aside who is even gonna go and to see who? Pippa? Tenma?

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>>73862824
it was a terrible idea on her end, but you have to see twitch like a medieval kingdom or a mafia, different castles fighting to be higher on the totem pole compared to others,
her moving to mythic was her thinking vshojo was a crumbling castle and mythic was supposed to be the next big thing, but in the end mythic just ended up becoming a mess and deep down being more like the guy selling your cows and not an actual castle, she lost all the perks of being an insider like having your ccv randomly double or getting all the algo boosts others get, it knocked her out overall and it's the reason why she's gotten more edgy over the last few months after getting her bf to act like a petty bitch about pippa before she left

[Anonymous No.]

>>73839448
if they advertised it and rolled it out over a month you could probably get around 15k, pippa rarely hypes events up but the second she does she usually does close to 6k just by herself so if you add 2k from lumi's fans that usually aren't there for pippa, tenma that has a very different fanbase and the ex-tsunderia fans you can get pretty close to that number purely off of the fanbases, it's all about actually having the girls all show up and hyping up an event

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837679
They went from a 2view corpo to an averange of 500~700ccv per talent in like 2 years since they started pumping the ads, id say it worked.

Captcha: 4rat

[Anonymous No.]

>>73863627
yeah saying "they only watch pippa" is like a normie saying people only watch gura, especially when some of the fanbases have large overlap and others are completely different and still hit 2 to 3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>73863191
vshojo is just iron lung's support group

[Anonymous No.]

>>73862967
Pippa should only have one song between the beginning and the end so the pipis get hyped and stop asking uuuuuuu where's pippa??
She should also have a solo bit in the opening group song, she's the biggest girl thete after all, but someone who actually sings should open ro really impress everyone. The last song should also be a group song and start with Pippa to get back the intetest of pipis but transition focus to other girls.
The rest of the songs should be by the heavy hitters, phase has some really good singing talents they should showcase and few mid level talents that could have some part too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73837625
spbp
I don't like phase but on this I agree with them.