What are the chances she’s wrong?

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Maybe she is the lying, manipulative, attention-seeking cunt the sisters believe her to be. In what universe would that be true?

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>>73799461
He is proud of nijiEN AR, that is a clear sign that doki was wrong, it would never be a desperate move to try and bring in sisters after falling to 1.5 finanas.

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>>73799461
If nijisanji hadn't gone full retard mode and tried to pull a zaion on her a lot more people would've believed she was wrong. Thankfully Niji is as retarded as the sisters and can't resist self-sabotaging

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>>73799461
Maybe I am literally Hollywood actor Ryan Gosling

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>>73799461
>Maybe she is the lying, manipulative, attention-seeking cunt the sisters believe her to be
She is, but so is just about everyone in the industry

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>>73799972
>maybe
also I made this post

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>>73799627
He’s absolutely regretting his graduation and trying to act like a “victim”.

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>>73799461
I dont care about niji and i dont care about her. Never did, never will.

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>>73799461
Fuck off Millie

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>>73799461
dunno dont care i just love seeing niji burn in hell

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>>73799627
Most deserved downfall in this industry.

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>>73799461
Fuck off Reimu.

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>>73799461
Fuck off Elira.

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>>73799461
>it's not my faaaaaaaaaaaault eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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The truth is almost always more nuanced than either side is willing to admit. It’s probably a case where she was shunned/bullied by some of her coworkers, but also that much of it was brought upon by the fact that she was rebellious and difficult to work with.

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>>73799461
Perception is reality so until something happens that would change the public perception of the situation there is a 0% chance that she's wrong.

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>>73799461
0% chance and the moment Niji tried to sue her for a weak as fuck reason that was noncriminal the faster Niji would disappeared.
Niji takes a permanent L.

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>>73801496
Nigger, you know where else that phrase is used to disgrace someone you fired, right? Hollywood. Being difficult to work with can literally mean 'Im not letting myself get groomed'

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>>73799461
Selen: Nijisanji is a toxic work environment.
Selen privately to nijis lawyers, there was bullying by affiliated livers due to mismanagement as part of this toxic work environment.
Niji: Lets try to destroy selens reputation on the way out.
Niji: Fuck we mismanaged this, lets send the livers out to counter-program her first gaming stream back and shit on her even though everyone was trying to move on and the drama dying down (look at the sub losses, it was actually relatively light until the stream when they fell off a cliff)
Nijis own publicly visible actions effectively evidenced the core claims they self reported as having been made against them.

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>>73801671
I mean, just because the phrase has been used to smear people before doesn’t mean there aren’t people who were indeed fundamentally difficult to work with. Even in Hollywood, it’s not like the term has never been used honestly. There are plenty of high profile adult male actors that are known to be difficult to work with.

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>>73801496
She is so difficult to work with that se has sponsors, cons and collabs lined up for months

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>>73799461
In bizzaro /vt/

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>>73802443
Difference between working with partners temporarily such as in the case of sponsors, cons, etc and working long term in the same company as somebody.

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>>73799627
Kek desperate times calls for desperate measures

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>>73799627
I really hope this guy just fucks off from vtubing at some point

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>>73799461
What exactly do you think she was lying about?

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if you believe in infinite universes then i'm sure there's at least one where she's the evil mastermind nijisisters treat her as, but that isn't the one we live in so I don't see why we're discussing it.

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>>73799461
I thought the sisters left with her. Much of the criticism is from impartial bystanders that don't like anything niji, which includes her. It was always obvious from the start that she was not telling the whole truth, because her activity didn't line up with her story. When they did show some logs the story was changed to how dumb of them to show logs, and before that how dumb of them not to show anything. To some people they were always in the wrong and always going to be the losers no matter what they did. Clout chasers and dramatubers latched onto it and amplified her narrative. Now you're asking if it's even slightly possible that people were being biased against Nijisanji. I don't even like them or watch them but that's pretty obvious.

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>>73799461
It doesn't matter. Niji and their livers shouldn't have tried to sweep the legs out from under her with no ground of their own to stand on. If she was that bad, fire her ass and move on.

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>>73803582
> her activity didn't line up with her story
Care to elaborate?

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>>73800761
Wrong
>>73801080
Correct.
Know which NDF tactic to assign to which Clique member in tongue-in-cheek jest:

>Reimu
>will belittle Selen for her suicidal ideation and mental illness

>Enna
>defaults to crass insults like her Dookie and fat

>Millie
>goes out of her way to defend the company and everything they do

>Elira
>insists Selen was in the wrong in how she conducted herself and ruined the company's public image

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>>73799461

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>>73800469
No matter how hard he tries, he won't be seen as a victim because of "that" Sayu's reply.
The karma from making fun of her termination cannot be negligible.

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>>73804059
Reimu is innocent in my book. It's just anti-niji confirmation bias.

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>>73799461
Everyone involved is retarded and wrong

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>>73799461
yeah I'm sure she manipulated management into tweeting from her account while she was in the hospital and revealing personal info that wasn't their to share.

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>73799461
maybe when selen want grad, you just let her grad...

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>>73799461
Even if that is true, she would still be in the right
think about it, in a scenario doki planned everything to make nijisanji private the MV and even fake a suicide attempt, all the nijisanji actions and leaks that happened ever since showed us nothing but a hellhole of incompetence and petty highschool mean girls bullshit
2 opposing sides can be evil

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>>73799461
none

[Anonymous No.]

alright lads, lets settle this once and for all. who has the better ass:

exhibit b:
https://litter.catbox.moe/owcl7f.webm
exhibit k:
https://litter.catbox.moe/7kumup.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

selen is a grifter, and was always leeching numbers from luxiem members. dragoons hated vox and ike, because they could never have the same intimate conversations with their suicidal oshi lmao.

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>>73813909
This

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>>73799461
Zero

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>>73799461
None at this point. If Nijisanji had played PR game correctly, then there can be FUD on this front if there were aspects of it that weren't revealed. If they had anything else other than the MV video Discord messages, they would've used it against her during the Black Screen stream and actually spilled the beans on how she is actually lying, manipulative, and attention-seeking. But none of the other talents in that stream could do that, the best they could do was those Discord messages on the mishandling of the MV and that is more of an indictment against EN management than Selen. Why would the people at the company still have ammo they haven't fired against her if any of that was true?

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>>73799461

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>>73799461
>>73799627
>>73799981
>>73800502
>>73801161
kys faggot

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>>73799461
In this universe, you autist. It's obvious if you ever actually watched Niji that she loved lying

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>>73799461
If she was actually that, Nijisanji would still be a black company for the termination notice, zaion, black stream, and all of the other ex-nijis who corroborate how batshit the company runs.
They would've just gotten away with it for a few more years before a different person killed themselves. Probably Rosemi or Vox, and they'd actually succeed.

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>>73823065
>Nijisanji would still be a black company for exposing lies
KEKAROO
>Zaion
The same Zaion that admitted to breaking all the rules and religiously cries every couple of months about how she wishes she could have stayed in Niji longer?

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>>73823254
You can believe whatever the fuck you want, but it's not going to change the reality that the western fans are NOT coming back because Nijisanji has proven itself to be both incompetent and malicious.

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>>73823343
Oh no! The subs that never watched streams or gave money! Whatever will Nijisanji do? Kek, Elira mogged Gura in USD

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>>73799461
Sis, it's time to move on, she has been ignoring you and every mental disease you are having for 3 months, literally find something else to do. She'll keep doing her thing and Niji should keep doing theirs, you literally spend more time /here/ than watching the talents, I feel kinda sad at this point their audience is full of dramafaggots angry that they are getting nothing more.

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>>73799461
35%

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>>73823254
>Nijisanji would still be a black company for exposing lies
>KEKAROO
At this point the truth wouldn't matter. The following 3 months the company and livers have done nothing but fumble their reputation, and the fans (sisters) have proven to be ravenous and toxic. So much that they think they're fighting for a right cause but incidentally dragging nijis name through the mud and being oblivious to it.

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>>73823514
The subs that never watched streams are the ones that remain. If they don't watch then they don't know about the drama and therefore didn't unsubscribe. Everyone who watches (live subs) are the ones who left. Please, a little bit of simple logic will do you good.

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>>73823514
sister...

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>>73799461
I like how the sis new strategy is to answer the OP themselves falseflagging like shit to try to fake public opinion is changing.
Keep being /here/ retarded, we are are laughing at your ass and nothing else for being so much of a dramafaggot you can't move on like her.

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>Elira mogged Gura in USD
>Literally putting a 3000$ gain return over the 200mil in one month and never streams girl.
Sure, on the seventh day at the six hour of the fifth minute a fart was expelled at the exact coordinates a person will wrote in 20 years on a piece of paper, so it all aligns and you win.
Or you are just so pathetic you are literally gone out of your way to find a minimal win when everyone not in Niji gained 10 times for their "return" stream.

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>>73823514
oh and before you swap to "YEAH BUT SONNY'S BIRTHDAY"

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>>73802443
the drama buff was huge, everyone wants to get a slice of the savior pie. maybe she really is that great, or maybe we'll see things break down over the course of a year, who knows?

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>>73823685
>>73824001
>But if I deflect from the original argument

Holokiddies are seething. Elira's Zatsu mogged Gura's in USD. Sonny's birthday made more than Bijou's. Cry about it

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>>73803811
The online activity on both accounts, what logs we have seen, and statements from both parties show that it doesn't line up with a cohesive victim narrative. It's just not possible to look at it logically and come to the conclusion that she is free of any fault or was unaware of the situation as it developed over months.

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Reminder that about a week after 39daph acted like a retard supporting the Nijiclique, her organization Sentinel's contact page became a blank black screen. I know for a fact that it didn't used to be that because I sent them a message through that page.

Sentinels is literally in full support of everything Niji has done. They could have done a normal "404" page, but they chose a black screen.

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>73825190

>Says a bunch of big words without presenting actual proof.
Did the Nijisis actually opened a vocabulary? I'm so proud of them, one day they might actually have a cohesive wrong argument instead of dramafagging on the board!

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>>73799461
The chance ? 0%, because it was the black screen stream that gave the rrats plausability
It's just as simple as that
Time to move on sister

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>>73825224
And this is relevant to the board because? A SJW organization is retarded. The sky is blue. Next shit.

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>>73825190
>source: it came to me in a dream.

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>>73799461
Very unlikely. It is conceivable to me that she could have BPD, but a more quiet type where all her energy gets funnelled into pleasing her fans and failing at this makes her hate herself. This would give her the impetus to actually go through with bold moves like encouraging the reupload of her Coffee video or the suicide attempts, and also give her a sensitivity to know when people are deliberately messing with her.
Regardless of that, though, it's clear that Nijisanji did and had been responding to her in a hostile way, at par, and an incompetent way, at best. The black screen video's timing confirms that and also reveals that the real trigger for the attempt was, after her tweet for people to reupload, the livers collectively confronting her while she was already obviously stressed. Millie's tweet was outrageously smug, and her termination notice is explicitly trying to smear her in the court of public opinion so that her tweet (which accurately states, 'Management took down the video') isn't outrageously embarrassing to the company, not because the situation in itself is embarrassing (in a normal situation it would be grounds enough for a smooth, easy dismissal and everyone knows that), but because of the underlying message that Selen (extremely popular, hardworking, and regarded well by every independent who worked with her) disliked the company enough to not care anymore; an implicit criticism against the company that points to something being seriously wrong unless one were to simply take Selen as duplicitous and crazy. Which is the track that they went with. They were paranoid people would not see Selen as wrong. Because she was not wrong.
Double this with 'the company' just being a euphemism for 'Elira+clique' if you follow the GURRAT, because it becomes a sort of indictment against them personally.

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>>73799461
In the world where she was a lying, manipulative, attention-seeking cunt
The sisters would be singing her praises everywhere, because she'd be the one paying sisters in gift cards

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>>73799461
>What are the chances she’s wrong?
12%

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>>73799461
Couldn't care less if she was
Sisters are trannies anything that pisses them off im going to back

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>>73825190
I would love to see these logs, if they're even real
Sadly they're just your headcanon

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>>73799461
have I got a story for you, anon.

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>>73799461
this universe, it is true. People have such short memories, Selen was the laughingstock of /vt/ for years. Everyone hated her. She IS nijisanji, to its core, she stood for everything they stood for, she helped mold nijiEN into what it is today. The fact that she sperged out doesn't change that. She fucking sucks, and she always has. The only difference is now she's also a suicide baiting grifter too.

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>>73832407 (me)
Doki was extremely manipulative behind the scenes and used her disorders as a means of leverage to get her way. Doki was supposed to graduate normally but decided to expedite the process by making a scene of herself, which actually made Niji look like the bad guys (in this rare case, members of Niji, including the management attempted to help her by any means necessary, all to no avail).

I've technically already said more than I'm allowed to say at this point, so I'll have eave the rest for you.

>inb4 source
If LK was your prophet, then I'm your god

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>>73802443
it's called virtue signaling, look it up. These retards just want the good PR optics of 'helping the poor downtrodden mentally ill bullied little girl'.

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>>73799461
Niji would have just dropped proof that shes awful instead of trying to smear her

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>>73832928
Your story stinks and lacks both credibility and creativity.

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>>73803811
Her supposedly recovering from a second suicide attempt while playing Apex, watching Twilight with her friends , her writing the document and being involved with a legal fight all in the same time frame

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>>73833081
They did and you seethed

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>>73833177
I wish I was wrong, anon. I wish her success wasn't a byproduct of a false narrative perpetuated by people like you hell-bent on the idea that Doki is some flawless angel who beat the odds when they were stacked against her, but I'm afraid it is.

It was Zaion who revealed that Nijisanji was a black company, and it was Doki who hinged on that narrative to propel herself to fame. But I'm sorry to say that in all reality it was the exact opposite.

You are living a lie, and I wish there was something more I could say to convince you. But as I said earlier, I'm not supposed to speak on the situation for a multitude of reasons, so I'll have to leave the confirmation up to you. The most information I can give is that there are some crucial details you might find interesting in the big NijiEN off-collabs, as well as a few streams from Selen when she got denied privileges to host a tournament.

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>>73832928
>>73833832
This had more effort put into it than the usual sister nonsense so I'll be nice and hand out a (You).

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>>73832928
>>73833832
>Nijinig chuuni RP
Cringe