We got to talk about Irys

[Anonymous No.]

What happened?

>624k views for caesura of despair
>only VOD over 1 mil, her debut
>all but one other VOD <500k views
>second cover just released with <50k views an hour later

She's making Kiara look like a legit pop star at this pace. She's not even close to Mori or Gura's popularity with singing. I thought she was supposed to be hot stuff. She has all of Cover behind her singing, with levels of support at levels that Kiara nearly quit in disgust. Yet this is what we get?

Why is Irys failing? Why isn't she catching on? I'm subbed to her, yet even i couldn't be bothered to watch her latest cover, yet i was on Mori's latest drop the moment it dropped this morning for Envy Baby. (230k views, and it's not even a good cover)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>yet i was on Mori's latest drop
Outed yourself for shit tastes already OP, commit alt + f4 irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351463
>Envy Baby. (230k views, and it's not even a good cover)

I clearly said is was a shit cover.

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>>7351353
>Nothing unique about her singing, tries to sing 1:1 versions of the song
>Horrible design, makes you nauseous after about 5 mins
>Solo Apex
>Apex at all
She wasnt a good pick for the vsinger position, she probably wouldve done better as part of EN2 since she seems like a good person.
Shes one of the few holos im not subbed to (Mori, Kiara, and Anya)

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>>7351506
You wasted time to watch something Mori made is my point

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>>7351353
If you don't appreciate her, I will

[Anonymous No.]

>NUMBA NUMBA NUMBA
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>muh numbers
She got the bad end of the deal with that "mature deviantart" model. If they gave her a sweet & cute model like Sora, Watame or Ame, people will gosling her hard. I can't even make memes of her since I hate looking at that model.

[Anonymous No.]

she's mine, keep fucking off

t. santa

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>>7351584
Santa please get her a better model for Christmas, you dont even have to give me anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351550
mori's done some solid shit. you can hate the player but respect the game. she's pretty low on my list as a vtuber, but she has done some good stuff. her english cover of Roki, Alive, Red, all solid listens.

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>>7351353
Oh, you wanna talk about IRyS? Let me start by telling you how much I love this adorable Nephilim.

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>>7351632
Roki is one of the worst things on her channel, Red is the only solid one you listed

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>>7351353
Kiara, it is like 4AM in europe. You really shouldn't seethe this late

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
I'm a tako since day 1
Never cared about numbers
My oshi doesn't too
But if you think Irys is bad because only one video of her has passed 1m vod views you're DEAD WRONG
https://youtube.com/channel/UCMwGHR0BTZuLsmjY_NT5Pwg
Ina is so fucking succesful and yet she only has her debut that surpass 1m vod views like irys
so, OP, can you shut the fuck up and fuck off this board? thanks.

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>>7351353
Her Shrek face is filtering everyone.

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>>7351353
Stop browsing 4chan Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS
Why are you like this?

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>>7351353
Don't you get tired of doing this?

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>>7351353
Gura is an outlier, not the norm

[Anonymous No.]

kys op

>>7351708
based tako

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>SEAmonkey? SEAmonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
it's literally just her ugly fucking model

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351849
Yeah I can see a seamonkey face in that pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351849
Her face does look like a monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>7352074
>>7351888

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>Why is Irys failing?
Ugly Tumblr nose avatar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7352097
>meme_1626279400578.jpg
Just end it SEAnigger, go back to imgur community boards or wherever you monkeys hang out

[Anonymous No.]

She's actively debuffing herself by not premiering her covers and only releasing JP songs. She might be a good singer but whoever is managing her sucks at marketing.

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>>7352506
Honest question. Why do you think releasing JP songs is bad? I know she is EN, but vtubers are for weebs only so why do you think it is bad?
I really don't get retards like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
The real answer is fanbase. She doesn't have a big following yet compared to the others. Her MVs not reaching 1M is not that surprising. A lot of Holo MVs don't reach 1M. It takes awhile for them to get there. Another thing is that her EP doesn't have full MVs and are literally everywhere but her channel. I would rather have a full simple MV for Here Comes Hope than the PV that they made. The last thing that you have to bare in mind is hype. She doesn't hype herself much. She doesn't do premieres. She only tells us to listen to her songs when people compliments her.

I wish more people listened to Watame but I'm not going to push it because she genuinely just wants to release music that she wants. I'm content with that.

[Anonymous No.]

It's only been a few weeks you fucking idiot, her fanbase is still in early stages. It's not going to catch up to the others for a few months minimum. You really expect her to catch up instantly?

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>>7352506
She's releasing covers of Holo Songs who are mostly JPs. I don't think she can rap. I won't be surprised though if her next song is Live Again. I think she likes emotional songs. Also, she said she couldn't do premieres for these specific covers for some reasons. She wants to but couldn't. She will for her next covers though

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>>7352777
Dont worry, IRyS will make a soulless cover of one of Watame's personal songs and she'll get a few views thrown her way

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>>7351353
Her first album needs to be on her channel

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>>7351506
Op there's no point talking about taste in /vt/ everyone hates mori here even if she drops a good cover. Envy was decent. She doesn't just sing the song but she added her style into. She's doing cover songs "properly". She, Suisei and Gura are up there in my list of singers

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>>7353238
Gura and Suisei are good singers. Mori legitimately has no range and can barely sing anything that isnt rap, shes a great music producer, but not a good singer.

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>>7353238
That's what i want IRyS to do desu i don't want just some generic shit when i could just listen to the original, She got cover helping her hope she find what she truly wanna do

>>7353412
You mean musician? Mori's a good musician but she can sing, she's learning pretty fast for someone who just started vocal lessongs 1-2 months ago
https://youtu.be/RXFm7HNg6Eo

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351708
Violet will easily pass one mill, that's the catch.

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>>7353626
I honestly forgot Music Producer was a job and meant literally making the music since I was under the assumption she puts everything together, but yeah musician is probably more accurate. Her singing is very flat, she cant really go past that one pitch that takes up like 85% of her songs that isnt rap

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
Maybe if she sang in English, more people would've listened to her songs.
Seriously, why launch an English singer only for her to not sing in English? There are plenty of Japanese holos who sing in Japanese already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354455
I enjoyed her archived karaoke more than the unarchived. Her Odo is really good. She has range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354455
I never heard this complaint from a weeb fanbase until IRyS debuted. Weebs have never been bothered by japanese songs until now. Is this some kind of organized campaign by Nijiniggers to trash IRyS? With how much the NijiEN talents were shilled on this board its pretty obvious the Nijiniggers are organizing on discord to do this shit.

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>>7353968
She's improving at a fast pace desu i never really thought she'd be putting out this quality of music, her latest EP was big exclamation to that and her recent musics been good Envy was decent to me. It's only a matter of time before she learn how to sing properly and be covering songs that has 100% singing in it. My only wish to cover to let mori and IRyS make a song together, since they're both in Japan.

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>>7354732
>I never heard this complaint from a weeb fanbase until IRyS debuted
Where have you been? People were bitching about Kiara's JP karaoke songs for a while after her debut.

[Anonymous No.]

I like listening to her sing
I don't give a shit about anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>numbers numbers numbers

[Anonymous No.]

just take a look what we got today
a fucking cube with background story hype

WE DOESNT CARE ABOUT BACKGROUND STORY

that why they fuck up everything, poor management

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>>7354732
Do you not know anyone who watches anime, but only if it has dubs? That's how casual the holoEN fanbase is.
>>7352777
This is also part of it. She doesn't have a big following and, IMO, not having gen mates is a big part of it since that creates a lot of cross promo material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7353238
Covering Envy was stupid desu. Her version isn't good enough to tie the shoelaces of Polka's one, and isn't different enough that it was worth doing for the 'style' she added to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7355784
Even dub fans don't complain about the opening and endings being in Japanese. Its a complaint I've never heard before until now and its constant. I'm sticking with my theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7355897
>Even dub fans don't complain about the opening and endings being in Japanese.
They would complain if the studio explicitly hired an english singer to appeal to western markets and have her sing the OP in japanese though, because that makes no fucking sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354732
typical HL mindset lol, blame everything that triggers you on Niji fans or the Chinese

[Anonymous No.]

Irys has convinced me that if I like an indie vtuber, the last thing I want for them is to get into hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Even when compared to smaller groups and indies, Irys isnt anything special in the vtuber realm in terms of singing. She just got lucky that she got picked for singers thanks to her impressive track record. Once people listened to her for a while, there's really nothing special drawing them to keep watching or listening to her.

[Anonymous No.]

She would have done a lot better as HoloEN 2. Hyping her up as VSinger even though her singing lags behind AZKi and even other Holos like Suisei and Gura is just setting her up for failure. Her singing as of right sounds nice but that's about it. It's really flat and has no emotion at all.
I don't know why Cover is so hung up on this VSinger thing when they recruit utaite anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363330
The Vsinger position basically makes Cover pay for everything themselves, they really shouldve just promoted one of the EN girls like Gura or Mori to have that privilege though

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363330
Vsinger requires someone bilingual with japanese/english and a permanent enough position that they wont quit after a year or two. That way they can use vsingers as part of all their advertisements and promotions and that's something they cant risk with the HoloEN positions.

[Anonymous No.]

I see that /vt/ hates vtubers as much as /v/ hates video games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363728
Hololive=PS5

Everyone's just mad and jealous at the best and most successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351708
Takodachis based as usual

[Anonymous No.]

Be Cover
>Cancel Marines, Matsuri, Pekora, Kanata and Coco's projects because you're a small entertainment company with limited resources
>Refuse to fund your own Vtubers personal projects
>Expect your vtubers to pay out their own pockets for merch, music and 3D streams.
>Use all the money instead, on projects like a now cancelled Senchou manga. A 4 page manga staring Mio and Fubuki. And many worthless music videos that will amount to nothing.
>Investing in every hololive member is too expensive
>What do you do?
>You make a Vsinger who gets everything handed to her on a silver platter for FREE

Cover favouritism. It disgusts me. COVER HATE.

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>>7351353
>>7351653
>>7351849
>>7352097
it's the nose

[Anonymous No.]

>>7355573
clearly you've never seen a hololive girl cry over her numbers. as much as we fag about it numbers are important

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363924
Her nose looks like a young pimple on her face

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363982
Even Botan broke a little upon crossing 900k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363851
they like em exotic hags

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
I stopped watching after the first week when every song she sang was in Japanese. For me there's really no point in watching her when the only thing I wanted out of her pre-debut was English songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>always sing JP song

enough reason for me to drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>7364229
>>7364258
She talked about singing english songs, and she did deliver them, but hey, it won't fit your narratives, will it?

[Anonymous No.]

Zoomers get absolutely filtered by sincerity and are only entertained by world-weary whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7364418
Zoomers are obsessed with being "REAL" and nihilism. This is why few watch JP chuubas and obsess over Gura, Calli, and vshojos. They act like a little fanservice and kayfabe will kill them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7364258
>always sing JP song
You missed her unarchived karaoke, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>with levels of support at levels that Kiara nearly quit in disgust.
lol u wot m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363982
They are important but only until the chuuba decides when tho.
Otherwise RBC, Mel, Aki and even Choco would had dropped Hololive months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
They made Pekora cry for this, just so this orc bitch can get handed everything in her debut month for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354732
>I never heard this complaint from a weeb fanbase until IRyS debuted.
this isn't true. there was critisism about Gura, Mori and Kiara's first songs all being japanese (sorta, gura's is jap-english-greek)
Gura's and mori's critisism tailed off pretty quickly though due to the quality of the stuff being kicked out regardless the language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7364951
>They made Pekora cry for this
?

how did I miss that? I recall Kiara crying over it, but I don't remember pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354732
Anon... half of the NijiEN fanbase were previous Holotribals

>>7355104
Kiara was a combination of annoying voice, extroverted personality, and speaking English for only about half her debut.
Latching onto her singing in JP was just another excuse to complain

[Anonymous No.]

>>7353238
Your list is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354732
>Weebs have never been bothered by japanese songs until now.
Anon you retard. An English vsinger is supposed to sing in English. IRyS is defeating her own purpose by singing in Japanese. She could have been something special but instead she chose to be just another Holo girl singing nip songs. IRyS is a tragedy of wasted potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7370449
Pekora cried in her membership stream due to those canceled project, so far we know kiara and pekora complained about this policy
retarded cover, pekora is not even my oshi

[Anonymous No.]

Her covers are not good. No reply value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
HER FUCKING DESIGN IS ABYSMAL. I gave her a pity sub but I'm really considering unsubbing. I don't wanna watch her shit and her songs/covers are all boring as shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7371689
kek, even i prefer amelia-regret over her song

[Anonymous No.]

I like her model and especially her voice, her covers are so good

[Anonymous No.]

>>7352506
Spoken like a true EOP

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>>7351353
She looks like a fucking monkey that's what happened. I also just don't like her personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>Has only debuted 3 weeks ago
>Design is godlike but drawing is dogshit yet still gets 10k or more viewers.
>Numberfags will tell you how good her sub count is going
This is just some KFP nigger trying to doompost IRyS. At least try harder next time retard.

[Anonymous No.]

i love her she’s adorable. that’s all there is to be said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>What happened
That ugly ass model thats what, and she's so goddamn boring it drives me insane

[Anonymous No.]

They could have debuted a piece of cardboard on a stick and it would've reached the same numbers, because that's simply what the Hololive brand buff does for the braindead youtube masses.
Hell, looking at Irys' model, they might as well have been better off going with cardboard...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7373084
Irys will be looked at as a fluke. But if EN2 are like this, it will start hurting the brand.

[Anonymous No.]

I really did expect English covers of Japanese songs. Plenty of indies do that with some success. And some original songs that mix English and Japanese lyrics like Mori's stuff. I just don't see the point of making an English equivalent of azki if she's just going to sing in Japanese.

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>>7376650
Yeah I feel the same way. I don't really understand the choice. She even sings way better in japanese than English

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>>7351353
She looks like a fucking gremling
No not the cute kind like ame
No not the fluffy kind like a Furbie
She looks like a female Smeagle from LotR was given a wig and high end fashion clothing
Why would I gosling to a girl that is not cute?
She sounds cute, but I am watching a stream, not having in the background while I play/fap/cook like some pedestrain stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>7377429
>having in the background while I play/fap/cook
oh shit good idea, I might be able to start listening to her streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>weird model that looks uncanny on pair with the rest of EN
>really bad rigging that makes her look like a troll
>unimpressive singing that makes you think she was hired mostly by popularity
100% Cover's fault on this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>7355786
>>I wanna people save!

WHAT DOES IT MEEEAAAAANNN?

[Anonymous No.]

So is IRyS basically EN AZKi?
That's the vibe I'm getting from her Unique but Ugly design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7379413
>EN
seeing as singing is her main focus and she barely does any of it in English, she's more like Jp lite

[Anonymous No.]

>>7363011
The monkey's paw closes a finger, and your favorite indie gets signed to Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

Her design is fucking AIDS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7379759
This, for all the talk about her good design, she really looks like something a Deviantart kid would have come up with. Paired with the horrible model itself, she's hard to watch. God help me I tried; I am a Holofag after all, but I couldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7354732
>Nijisanji boogeymen

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>>7351849
Why are calling your oshi a monkey, that's rude anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
please keep my Oshi out of your Schizo posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
>Extremely shitty design to the point that watching her becomes painful
>Decent singing voice but not good enough to stand out

[Anonymous No.]

>>7371586
>Pekora cried in her membership stream due to those canceled project

what canceled project? how is this irys's fault?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7388177

That crying incident happened months and months ago, way before Irys even debuted. We still don't know what the canceled project was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7383483
your Oshi permanently made herself part of Irys anti-threads; with that narcisistic screed in rage over the "lack of support" she gets from cover and how much cover does for Irys. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if Kiara herself made this thread.

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>>7351538
>>Horrible design, makes you nauseous after about 5 mins
This is the main reason I’m not interested in her and will never watch her, maybe if the art style looked better or if the model look better, I just don’t know it looks like shit to me especially compared to every single Holo girl. I don’t know what they were going for when they designed irys

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351653
Like why does this model look like shit it’s nauseating

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
well when you compare her with hololive standards she´s doing fine/regular, if you compare her with other company chuubas she´s mogging everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351538
>Horrible design, makes you nauseous after about 5 mins
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>7370449
Kiara cried over canceled projects? Sorry I’m asking cause I haven’t been paying attention lately to Hololive and this Irys shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>7388561
It’s a shit design

[Anonymous No.]

>>7388625
In a member stream a few weeks back she vaguely vented about "internal issues" she had when producing original music. Didn't cry about it as far as I remember

[Anonymous No.]

>>7391274
I thought she was bitching because cover didn't tell her they were planning the Irys debut the same day she released sparks and fucked it all up

[Anonymous No.]

Was having a "vsinger" a good idea in the first place? Azki is the least successful part of old hololive. I don't know why they thought they should do it again for the English market who in general seem way less interested in the music side than the Japanese audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351687
The worst is the Princess Connect song, Ibasho

[Anonymous No.]

>>7399470
Anon
Azki revealed most of her job were actual live concerts on live venues.
But due the coof that stopped.
Maybe IRyS is just going regular stream for now until Cover gives her a 3D to start doing live concerts.
>inb4 she gets 3D before any of EN1

[Anonymous No.]

>>7399470
I don't think much of the English audience gives a shit about vTuber music unless the viewer already has some sort of attachment to the streamer. Her singing in Japanese and just the genre of music she sings to is a further debuff. Weeb music in the West can do numbers, but its mostly stuff like Moe Shop which doesnt really lend well to a singer. Sadly, I think she's gonna end up a costly failed experiment, which is too bad because she's a nice girl.

[Anonymous No.]

The Internet really has warped peoples scale of how big numbers really are. 99% of streamers in general are lucky to constantly get triple figures on their videos.

200k is not a small number of people.

[Anonymous No.]

That's the lowest level that a VSinger/VTuber should aim to when doing a debut song or EP
23M views on YouTube + 4.5M on YT Music. Even on SoundCloud the DeadBeats EP has better numbers than IRyS's debut EP

Yes, quote this while saying NUMBERS NUMBERS as a good faggot should do

[Anonymous No.]

>>7400178
Oh holy shit I had no idea this had gotten so popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>7400221
deadbraps are too strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>7399370
That’s a rrat. She even says in her rant it has nothing to do with IRyS. She said it was something internal in Cover that she’s not allowed to go into. It’s also worth noting that Sparks still has certain issues with its release, such as being having her artist credit in Japanese on Amazon Mysic instead of English. Love or hate Kiara, Cover’s incompetence is increasingly apparent.

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>>7400221
Pretty much anything that Mori shits out on her channels performs really well view wise aside from ibasho iirc her lowest songs are the reaper rapper shitpost with 2,5M and Cursed Night with 3M, after that everything jumps to 5M+ and in a related note, Getcha just got to 5M too, but that's because Suisei + Mori buff is huge

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>>7399666
Even if she doesn't do well number wise in vods, she still has a good following now who always shows up no matter the random sched she puts up. Her SCs are consistent as well. The first time her SCs went down $1k was on her guerrila stream and this collab because we all know there won't be any SC readings so what's the point. She's going to be fine either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7378895
Ja mamama ma

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351849
>>7352097
I think the teeth look weird too, looking more closely. It makes her look like some kind of gremlin, except unlike Ame, she doesn't have enough personality to pull that off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7405887
the Irys gremlin came out a bit in the minecraft stream, it's just grown up and got more devious

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
Her covers are too soulless and 1 for 1 to make up for her model. Her concept is also a little odd not everyone's going to instantly connect with like shark girl or goth reaper girl. If she had a different model and concept she'd be at gura numbers. New usually attracts a shit ton of people and holds onto them because they're refreshing. It's not a good sign if people lose interest in a month despite that. She spiked because she was with holoen but now that the initial brand interest spike is dying down she'll have to do a lot to attract viewers that gave up on her.

Alternatively she could just not give a shit. Even if she drops to practically nothing compared to the main girls she'll still be profitable in comparison to indies. She might be their first not crazy explosive unprecedented superchat numbers girl but she'll still make an okay amount of money.

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>>7406257
Her viewership hasn't gone though. It's still consistent between 9k-10k. It goes up when the game is hyped or when she does karaoke

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>>7406257
As the other guy said >>7406474, her viewership is doing pretty well outside of her debut buff - above most Holos with the exception of the very top, including her SC reading sessions (which usually only attract solid supporters). I wouldn’t call that “not a good sign”. She (or any Vtuber, Holos or not) doesn't need to be a record breaker to be considered successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
Her song only failed to overtake Sparks to 1 million because Kiara kept shilling her song everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
That's what you get for being trend hopper. I would do my archive reps just to bring the times I said she's DOA

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351538
>Nothing unique about her singing, tries to sing 1:1 versions of the song
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351849
Yes, Irys is an actual seamonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>7352097
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>7352777
So can we agree Gura has biggest active fanbase?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7388280
Anon... music takes months to produce

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351538
>tries to sing 1:1 versions of the song
She misses the mark with this too. Because it sounds like she's aiming for 1:1 any mistakes she makes no matter how minor are glaring.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel bad for Irys because she seems like a sweet girl but her model is so fucking ugly it makes me not want to watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>7351353
that's why you will never be happy anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412775
She's not singing 1:1. She approached all covers differently. Highlighting different portions. You can hear it in Ghost most especially. If you hear the mix that azukano did you would be able to tell. Btw, they sound great together because of the fact she sang it differently which sounded like they were singing to each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7405650
Honestly her SC are cratering extremely fast compared to EN at release

[Anonymous No.]

>>7406474
>He still believes in live views cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412830
Her sc performance is yet to dip in any way. It's consistent. It actually goes up when she does hype streams like karaokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>7411077
Sparks has as many listens on Spotify than 3 of her EP songs combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412853
And?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412885
please compare the first few SC enabled streams of Irys to even Ame.
Let alone Mori, Kiara or Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412913
Oof can't get more than 300k unless it's minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412974

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412974
Or

[Anonymous No.]

>>7413063
Anon Chama the dates

[Anonymous No.]

>>7413103
>bottom feeder of holoEN
oggey

[Anonymous No.]

>>7412964
I checked Ame and Irys got a higher SC when she got hers enabled. 21k vs is 24k. They both got 2-3k each stream. Amelia bottomed to as low as $500 after 5 streams. They have ups and lows but Irys so far is holding at minimum $1k except for the guerrilla and the collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>7413118
If I use an earlier date for Ame it will be lower since it's an sc reading. Ina is closer since they get similar numbers when Irys is streaming around 11AM JST or 9PM JST

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>>7388445
too wide, too cluttered.

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>>7351353
ooga booga gaga gugu gluluk

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>>7414144
golok blag gooru glak glak

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>>7413103
that male debuff though

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>>7413103
i'm wondering if kiara got shadowbanned to everyone but her subs, I didn't even know holotalk happened until I started seeing clips and haven't seen a stream pop up while live in a week or two

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>>7413407
Idiot... use the timeframe that IRyS vods have.

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>>7414332

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>>7351353
>EN VSinger
>sings in japanese
Simple as

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>>7414349
>>7413407
>>7413103
>>7413063
>>7412913
kys

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So, does she sing good or not?

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>>7418921
yes, she's very good and she has a very pleasant voice
every complaint I see about her singing is subjective (i.e SOUL, muh emotion) and just seems like a difference in taste

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she's BORING. Also her singing kind of sucks

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>>7419045
It's all they have to latch onto for antiposting, that and "no personality" because not screaming your ears off = boring

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she really needs a 2.0 2D model ASAP or she will end up killing her own career at this point

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>>7420408
yea i don't get the boring complaint
since her second week on, she's been very comfortable and has been pretty fun to watch, more so than most of EN for me
>>7420600
won't happen for a while if at all, I would guess 3d is more likely than that
her 2d is fine anyways
>moves when she speaks, isn't stuck closed like some other models
>looks good when singing
>decent eye movement
>expressions are unironically really good

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>>7351353
Everything Irys does Ina does better and that even includes singing.

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>>7420859
Based takodachi

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>>7363851
>>Expect your vtubers to pay out their own pockets for merch, music and 3D streams.

what is this from? havent heard of this yet

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>>7418921
She's technically competent and has a pleasing tone, so yeah, she does "sing good". She's certainly up there in the top percentile of Holo singing talents (but of course, anything less would be a bad look for someone who was specifically scouted for a singing job).
Of course, any further evaluation is too dependant on personal biases. Does she have that "special something" for you, that elevates her above the mass of other similarly "technically competent" good singers? That's your subjective judgement to make.

In my case, I'm not really "feeling it". As I said, I have no problems admitting that she's not a bad singer, far from it, but she also doesn't grip me so much that I'd go out of my way to listen to her specifically. (Musically, my tastes gravitate more towards the "power vocal" style singers, so maybe Towa or Suisei etc., out of Hololive, but to be frank, I don't really listen too much to "vtuber music" either, I have much more "real bands" that are more satisfying to listen to). Now, from what little I've seen of her, I'm sure she's a "nice girl" (but that's the thing... just "nice" alone probably doesn't really cut it when you're in the field of entertainment, vying for attention, and your personality doesn't particularly stand out or give people reasons to come back for every stream), I wish her all the best for her development and I'm happy for the people who like her, but personally she just doesn't have "it" for me that'd make me prioritize her over the dozens of other chuubas that are much more entertaining for me.

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>>>Expect your vtubers to pay out their own pockets for merch, music and 3D streams.
>what is this from? havent heard of this yet

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>>7422273
For music at least, multiple talents have talked about it here and there, so you can piece together a certain picture.
Cover only pays for songs when it's a big "Hololive project" song the company itself has planned. But most of the songs/covers that the talents put out are "personal", so for everything else the talents are on their own and have to commission everything themselves.

There's probably some legal/licensing stuff going on in the background, as Cover technically "owns the character" of Hololive talents, so they could lay claim on any music they put out, but they probably say "we waive that right for your personal projects, you can keep the profits from your songs, but in return we also don't help you produce them, you have to pay for them yourself".

As for merch, similar story. Some is on Cover, some is on the talents. In any way, someone has to lay out the initial cost of producing it first, and then it gets made back (and more) in sales.
A quick rule of thumb to discern "Cover projects" from "Talents personal projects" to go by is: How hard do they shill for the stuff (be it songs, merch, etc.)? If it's just a one-off announcement without much passion behind it, you can probably bet safe that it's a Cover project, where the talent doesn't really receive much profit from it. But when they shill hard for stuff, repeatedly and enthusiastically, it's probably a personal project, which they paid for themselves and get to keep the money if it turns profitable (therefore, they have an extra incentive to shill it to make sure it becomes profitable).

I never heard HoloJP talents talking about having to "pay for 3D", so I can't comment on that.

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she had trouble holding onto views in her past life too, it's just how she is. she's a bit... basic

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=ODTxNmp3VMk

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>>7351353
>What happened?
her model happened.

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>>7351353
>new vtuber, just started three weeks ago
>hasn’t gotten a stable following yet
>still in the awkward streaming phase

Are Nijiniggers always like this?

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>>7427948
It's not just the model. Don't get me wrong, it certainly doesn't help, but even that debuff could be overcome if - and that's probably the bigger issue - her personality was more than just... meh, uneventful.
The other EN girls at least all have some sort of noticeable character type that you can either love or hate, but Irys so far seems just so nondescript and bland in her personality and there's not much there that'll make people come back and think "oh THAT was amazing entertainment, I'll absolutely HAVE to watch her next stream again!". She seems like a nice girl but not much else, so far, and that probably isn't enough in this business.
I don't know, maybe she can develop more in the future. Or maybe not, and we'll see how strong the Hololive brand buff truly is if it can continue to carry even a piece of cardboard.

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>>7428328
The big issue with Irys is that she's just discount Ina. Why would I watch her, if Ina is just so much better?

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>>7352736
>Why do you think releasing JP songs is bad?
There are already enough streamers doing that.

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Problem with Irys is that she is an English cast member but she doesn't sing well I'm English. There are amateur singers from /wvt/ that MOG her hard in that department. I think the label on her is wrong, misses expectations of people.

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>>7428328
A good entertainer needs a core gimmick they can build around. It can be almost anything, from a vocal tick, to a design element, to a fetish. As far as I know, IRyS was supposed to have "being a singer" as her gimmick. This is a terrible mistake, because almost every big vtuber is a singer. She's simply not talented enough to make that the core of her entertainment work. So she's left without a core, with no foundation to build off of. This isn't necessarily a disaster, but it makes it way harder for her to build an identity and following.