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73303088 No.73303088 [Reply] [Original]

Why did it take so long for miko to hit 2 million?

>> No.73303314

it's hard to find people elite enough to sub

>> No.73303334

>>73303088
Her fans are loyal but she can't attract a new audience, desu she should join vcr if she wants more subs

>> No.73303469

>>73303088
She hasn't spammed shorts and vertical streams enough

>> No.73303557

she has a very strong core of active fans which is far more important to cultivate than subs

>> No.73303632

>>73303088
If not because of her 3 months hiatus years ago, her sub should be the same or higher than peko. Her sub growth that time is pretty much one of the fastest in all of Holo. But then she got health issue and stop making content thus her subs stagnated.

>> No.73303636

>>73303088
How come she has a higher CCV than people with more subs than her? Also the most memberships?

>> No.73303829

>>73303088
Pregnancy put her behind

>> No.73303965

>>73303829
but enough about pekwhora

>> No.73304271

>>73303557
This
I'll never leave Mikochi for as long as I draw breath

>> No.73304422

>>73303829
They still have babies in Japan?

>> No.73304432

>>73303636
They buy subs meanwhile Migo is earnest

>> No.73304445

>>73303088
alot of vtubers wont even hit that number in a lifetime

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>>73303557
>>73304271
This

>> No.73305625
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>>73303088
Why did it take so long for the rest of Holo to hit 4 million ?

>> No.73305929

>>73303829
Sorry about that guys, but our baby is very healthy

>> No.73306037

>>73305929
Your daughter is going to have a short tongue LOL

>> No.73306128

>>73305625
Gura is a talent there is one in a decade, there will never be a more popular vtuber in hololive

>> No.73306422

>>73303088
She doesn't have ANY clout outside of an limited Holo JP bubble.
Her music is not good which doesn't help her name to reach outside of the vtuber community like Marine or Suisei.
Or she's not a meme everyone knows which is why Pekora is the most famous vtuber on the JP internet.
Or she's not popular overseas like Korone and Fubuki, because despite being the very first vtuber to get noticed through the GTA clip, she hasn't have any meme or moments that got popular overseas like those two
But those who know and understand her knows how entertaining she is so she pulls one of the highest ccv all the time

>> No.73307130

>>73303088
Youtube is actively suppressing hololive in the algo. That's why their growth is so unnaturally slow.
>>73303334
She wanted to have a dedicated vcr holo server but management said no

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>>73303557
she ditched core audience a while ago and started pandering tourists with garbage games

curious to see if she goes back to doing actual content now that 2mil is done

>> No.73307299

>>73303088
There is a limited number of vtuber fans. Anything over a million is dead subs. You collect dead subs either by being around for a long time or by making viral videos where people will sub and not come back.

>> No.73307307

>>73307130
>Youtube is actively suppressing hololive in the algo. That's why their growth is so unnaturally slow.
There's no grand conspiracy, vtuber audience market is saturated, new viewers are not going appear out of thin air

>> No.73307321 [DELETED] 

This SEA Noufagi is also schizoing out in the Miko thread as well. What compels people to act like this? Why is it so mad and upset?

>> No.73307418

>>73307233
That's exactly what Pekora was doing last year with those mobile games or slot machines lol
Miko has had the most hako-oshi's support for a long time now and that hasn't changed at all

>> No.73307430 [DELETED] 

>>73307321
Side effect from having poop colored skin and living in a straw hut

>> No.73307432

>>73307233
What do you mean? I looked over the games she's been playing these past few months and it all looks like the usual stuff she plays minus Minecraft. Unless you're talking about her dropping VNs but that was a long time ago.

>> No.73307716

>>73303088
>>73303334
The reality is that she's not as big as Marine, Peko, Gura or Kobo no matter how much Cover or her core fans want to pump her up or how many things Miko gets let into. Miko is a good mascot for Cover but that didn't work as well for Sora. Miko grows as Cover grows so it's less Miko reaching two million than Cover's recent explosive viewer gains.

>> No.73307858

>>73307716
I don't think Gura or Kobo get anywhere near the viewership Miko gets.

>> No.73308690

>>73303088
Imagine still thinking subs actually matter in the grand scheme of things when Miko still has
>more viewers than most vtubers out there even the ones with over 2M subs
>more average CCV than most vtubers out there even the ones with over 2M subs
>more merch sold than most vtubers out there even the ones with over 2M subs
>more superchat than most vtubers out there even the ones with over 2M subs
>more memberships than most vtubers out there even the ones with over 2M subs
That just means Miko's subscribers are natural and not dead subs like most vtubers out there with over 2M subs

>> No.73308735 [DELETED] 

>>73307321
There is a good chance it's not a nousagi and just that pekomiko schizo that samefags as both sides. Truly mentally ill and very brown

>> No.73308790

>>73307321
because the rabbitch doesn't stream today

>> No.73308850

>>73307233
Kill yourself schizo, stop falseflagging

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>>73307321
>What compels people to act like this?
picrel
>Why is it so mad and upset?
The planets are coming into alignment

>> No.73309331

>>73307432
Meaning she hasn't done long story based games(+20h) in almost 6 months

I still remember weekend RPG streams, which had abysmal viewership but it was a game Miko wanted to play and shit was legit funny.
And most of the Soul Calibur meme characters 35P make are from those streams

>> No.73309448

>>73309331
Miko became a numberfag. Simple as. I don't blame her either, she's doing very well with the stuff she's been doing the past few months.

>> No.73309544

>miko thread
>pekora brought up unprompted several times
>nousagi brought up unprompted and blamed with no proof
I used to think it was a joke that Pekora and nousagi live rent free in 35p's heads but holy mother of all rent free it really is true.
>>73308735
You're replying to a Pekoschizo. There are two in here actually. Just doing what they always do 24/7, 365 days a year, every waking hour; thinking about Pekora and nousagi. Never before has there been a case of more rent free in the history of rent free.

>> No.73309576

>>73309331
She didn't ditch her core audience, because there's nothing wrong with only playing something that your fans actually want to watch. 35P literally means Miko Producers, her fans decide her content and watch her streams, they're the core audience.

>> No.73309658

>>73303088
Truth is, streaming focused chuubas play in hard mode compared to music and shorts focused chuubas when it comes to sub growth. You can very clearly see it whenever they release a successful MV. It's the reason Marine passed Pekora and why Suisei will likely pass her as well, probably within the year. Everything considered, she's doing exceptionally good. 2 mil is almost 2% of the entire Japanese population.

>> No.73309671

She used to be a 2view that had no one show up for her meet and greet. Hitting 2 million is a joyous occasion and SEA is full of smelly retards.

>> No.73309692

>>73309544
Then why are you here Mikoschizo noufagi? because you're obviously the one shitting on Miko

>> No.73309795

>>73309658
its gonna be a sad day when suisei surpasses miko in subs

>> No.73310118

>>73307130
their growth settled down now that covid is no more. they also can't attract new audience because they refuse to get out of their comfort zone. good for keeping the current fans but bad for growth. cover still being shit at getting perms is also a problem.

>> No.73310169

>>73309448
That's why I'm curious does she plan to keep this up, next milestone projections is well over a year away
>>73309576
because tourists viewers don't have the patience to sit through 60hour RPG game streams, no need for massive iq to detect who the content is for then

>> No.73310220

>>73308905
The race with the highest predisposition to schizophrenia are racial jews. I dont see that represented in this map.
this is not racism meido, this is factual

>> No.73310672

>>73310118
>they also can't attract new audience because they refuse to get out of their comfort zone
Holos are still the fastest growing chuubas in JP, so that's clearly BS. They just hit diminishing returns, growth is not infinite.

>> No.73310856

>>73310220
Do you not understand "topographic?"

>> No.73311162

>>73303088
Miko was always far behind in subs because she was a 2view shitter until the holobox saved her, also as >>73303829 mentioned, her extended hiatus shortly after the COVID growth neutered her incline in subs

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>>73310220
brave of you to make pleads while shitposting offtopic

>> No.73311508

>>73310118
>they also can't attract new audience because they refuse to get out of their comfort zone
Good. They shouldn't change their content to cater to normies, kids and other lowest common denominators.

>> No.73311546

>>73310672
>Holos are still the fastest growing chuubas in JP
thanks to brand power
>growth is not infinite
yep, it's why they're trying to look elsewhere for growth. and regloss is a very poor attempt at it.
>they also can't attract new audience because they refuse to get out of their comfort zone
>BS
not exactly. aki is a perfect example for this. she tapped a certain audience with her VCR ARK streams. new fans from that arc are not from the main hololive fanbase because it was riddle with male interactions.

>> No.73311615

>>73303088
Her condition
When she reach time peak, 99% she often get sick
Example when make WWE game famous toe to toe with salami, she collapse

>> No.73311739

>>73311508
This also means they can't do talent written kino like MiKoro skits, Cover is literally micromanaging content at this point

>> No.73311880

>>73307321
Because the faggot predicted a few days ago that Miko would announce her sololive today and was wrong again. Retard made a big deal about how Miko can't afford a house and a sololive, and kept crying about it. Just a whiny bitch that's mentally ill and projecting it's poverty on Mikochi.
>>73104966
>>73111639

>> No.73312242 [DELETED] 

>>73311880
>without using 2mil milestone wish
forgot the small detail there.

but people please understand our resident white knight 35P lives in a mudhut, he has no understanding what "down payment" is or how much one would be for a house in tokyo, or how much does it cost to hire a full production team to do a concert.

I can say that both simultaneously cost about the same as what Miko has earned during her whole holo career in superchats(after taxes ofc)

>> No.73312389

>>73312242
Like clockwork, the broke faggot has projected it's poverty once again on Miko and is crying about it. Obsessed about money cause you don't have one?

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>>73309795
anon?

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>>73312389
>Obsessed
rich coming from someone who is digging up old posts from archives

>> No.73312515

>>73312242
>Gets proven wrong again
>Resorts to crying about Miko's money again
Is this a humiliation kink?

>> No.73312574

>>73312512
Yes, I am richer than you. Thanks for acknowledging, poorfag

>> No.73312783

>>73311546
>aki is a perfect example for this
No, Aki is an abysmal example, because her low sub count was always a symptom of her unwillingness to integrate into the holobox. Case in point, she probably had more collabs with outside streamers since her breakout success with VCR than she ever had with other holomen since the start of her career. I might be exaggerating, but not by much.
Actually, I'll double down on my stance: the reason their sub growth is stagnating is because the holobox is at its weakest it's ever been since 2019. They need to pivot back to strong box games that promote casual interactions like Minecraft or Rust like they did pre-2023. That's what people like about Hololive, that's their main weapon over the rest of the industry.

>> No.73312951

>Poorfag seethed so hard it deleted its own post
Guess it's gonna make a new bait thread again kek

>> No.73313296

>>73312783
>need to pivot back
Not gonna happen.
Talents themselves are repeating the mantra "we've become so popular we can't do things we used to" and they actually believe this bullshit staff feeds at them, all under guise of "purity of Japanese business company" and all that

>> No.73313637

>>73313296
They literally tried to do that with Palworld just two months ago, which failed only because it has no endgame content or pvp elements (yet). You can settle down with your retarded narratives.

>> No.73313980

>>73313637
>narratives
well please do explain to the class why some members are practically banned from collaborating.
No there will be no "casual interactions" it's all pre-approved by PR department

>> No.73314147

>>73313980
>why some members are practically banned from collaborating
Holy schizo. Who the fuck are you even hinting at?

>> No.73314376

>>73314147
since (You) brought up VCR, did (You) know holo management was hesitant to give them permission to stream it?
and how did that saga end? Matsuri making a porn video that went viral

that's why

>> No.73314547

>>73312783
no point for aki in trying to integrate with the "main holobox" to gain fans because she was already a "lost cause" for them.
minecraft is too overdone. rust is too "safe" because of the childsafe rules. botan refuses to play it because it's that bad.

>> No.73314758

>>73314376
No, I wasn't the one who brought up VCR. Also we were taking about holo x holo collabs you dumb schizo faggot.
>>73314547
Aki's never been a lost cause to anyone but herself.
Took to early 2022 for Minecraft to become 'too overdone', your point is moot.
Rust had no rules in S1, watch streams.

>> No.73314991

>>73314758
>holo x holo collabs
The example still applies, some Holos just can't be left in the same room without adult supervision because it is guaranteed it will escalate into something company twitter has to apologize later.

>> No.73315362

>>73303088
asking the right question

>> No.73315558

>>73307130
>Youtube is actively suppressing hololive in the algo.
Youtube algo and management is sus. It fucks over everyone who isn't in their approved clique.

>> No.73316391

>>73303088
because she wasn't allowed to say nigga anymore

>> No.73316536

>>73314991
I'm afraid that's just a fabrication of your sick mind.

>> No.73316657
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73316657

>>73315558
>sus
xD

>> No.73317446

>>73303088
Not enough EOP pandering.

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