Actually impressive

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He sure as fuck isn't EN, and I can't condone his methods, but I respect the chinese grift. Good job clique man, and good job sisters for finally fucking putting your money where your mouth is.

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>impressive

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>>73108387
Didn't jannies JUST remove your thread?

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>>73108535
naw I stole it from that guy. gotta give credit where credit's due.

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>>73108387
Why do Asian girls pay way more than the western audience anyway?

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>>73108387
I bet all of those are Vox sisters coping after being ghosted for 2 months

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>>73108387
I unironically have no idea who this is

[Anonymous No.]

i guess you could say... reports of his death were greatly exaggerated

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>>73109175
It's Fitzthistlewits. Nu4chan won't remember him.

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>>73108387
Oh good for him, he made 8 Ennas.

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>>73108387
He got good numbers, Riku will look favourably upon him when the merge happens

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>>73108387
does anyone have the streamable of him telling someone in his chat to go get a blog

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>>73109068
>picrel
You just showed the western audience paying more than asian one

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>>73109068
>6 times less
>more

[Anonymous No.]

People talk about Vox having a really dedicated fanbase but Sonny's fans are pretty devoted too

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>>73109744
>>73109868
Compare to the OP, retards. That's the point.

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>>73108387
NijiEN really is dead in the west holy shit

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>>73108387
but /vt/ told me niji was dying and is making zero profit. dookiekeks how do we respond?

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>>73108490
That's undeniably impressive, at least if we are talking about SC. For reference, he made almost more than all Promise girls and only Irys matched him if you count memberships, despite having like 1/5 of their popularity.
>Irys - 3,386,273 / 1,313 members, 982 gifts
>Sonny - 3,719,265 / 149 members, 353 gifts
>Bae - 2,498,394 / 298 members, 768 gifts
>Fauna - 1,960,688 / 151 members, 389 gifts
>Kronii - 1,493,027 / 95 members, 663 gifts

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>>73110096
Why compare to Promise? Use Myth and Advent too, or Holostars

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>>73109922
No, the point you're making is that one has a bigger audience than the other. retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73109175
he faked his death once

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>>73109175
the tf2 fag that pretended to die

[Anonymous No.]

>>73108387
That's cute

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>>73110300
They are roughly equal in audience these days when you look at views and VODs.
It's just a fact that Asian fujos (Sonny's audience) pay more than Western fujos (Bettel's audience)

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>>73110554
now compare the jp organs to the jp homostars for a more accurate representation

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>>73110759
jp livers blow the jp homostars out of the water in terms of popularity so it wouldn't even be a fair fight

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>>73110139
Just because 4/5 of Promise just got their birthday less than a month ago so it was a lot easier to check (and it's not like they are runts among ENs when it comes to SC either).

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>>73110759
compare what? jp homostars were always shitters which is why fagoo is so desperate in recruiting so many homos hoping to find someone popular.

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>>73110096
yeah, even if this is outside the norm, 24k usd equivalent in asiabucks is undeniably good for him. It's not enough to make up for everything else, and it won't save the opinion on him, but that's probably more money made than the rest of the branch did in the entirety of march. This one stream is probably better press for the investors than the AR live.

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>>73110554
>It's just a fact that Asian fujos (Sonny's audience) pay more than Western fujos (Bettel's audience)
how is it that hard for all of you retards to realise the truth about fujo? it is not about western fujo,eastern fujo etc,fujo are the biggest TRIBALLIST,they worship their fav company,majority fujo already in niji fanbase,in fact the recent data showing niji JP fandom as a whole showing majority FEMALE.

FUJO WILL NEVER WATCH OR ACTUALLY SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF NIJI,specially holostars,not because kuzuha is better or roberu is not as entertaining,but because THEY ARE NOT NIJI,as simple as that,how many time sister psyop leaked that they shit on holostars because they are niji "enemy" their tribal "enemy".holostars WILL NEVER EVER become bigger,because most fujo already in niji. yagoo must switch to full brotuber otherwise holostars will never grow

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>>73110316
>>73110325
Wait, is this true?! I don't mean faking his death because i know who that is, but is it really him?!

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>>73111251
how new? yes that's him

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>>73109068
Western women HATE men!

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>>73111251
yes, it's him. He's also hanamori so the clique rrat is even more solid.

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if the sisters could come together like they did for this stream and do this regularly, they might actually save that shitty branch for a few months.

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>>73110096
arent you forgetting something there, anon?
>merch that isnt 1-2% cut

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>>73109492
>8 Ennas.
Wait, we have a new metric?

[Anonymous No.]

First Luca killing dramafags and now Sonny is doing it too? With a 7 am karaoke and 8 AM birthday stream on a Saturday?

Must be rough to be an anti

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>>73114153
1 enna = 2k usd since 2 ennas is less than 1 paper (4450 usd)
>73114199
>luca killing dramafags.
Didn't you get blown out last night already? Grim.

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>>73111726
>hanamori
That's actually not true, I think you mean claude

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>>73114290
ah, yeah. I mixed up my blonde boys. He's just the guy who faked his death.

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>>73114287
>Didn't you get blown out last night already? Grim
No? The retards in those threads just exposed that dramafags and Dokifags are one in the same then completely derailed the thread because they lost

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>>73114500
he may have died... BUT HE SURVIVED!!

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oh nonono i thought niji was supposed to be dead ? more like dramafaggots dead, burning alive with their own fuel.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn’t really pay attention to this guy but I thought he came off pretty kind in Pomu’s grad stream. Then I learn he’s the guy who pretended to off himself. Can’t trust any niji

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>>73114797
I like how you retards overblow an obvious joke then act like someone is secretly a serial killer because you're too autistic to understand when someone isn't being serious. You faggots actually thought he was announcing his death?

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>>73114797
>>73114914
He actually killed himself and came back to life. But noone would believe that and he'd be considered crazy, so he had to do it like this.

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>>73114797
He's my dark horse bet for the next graduation considering he had 2 collab covers recently after having basically nothing music related for 2 years

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>>73114287
I thought 1 Enna = 4K USD since it included both the concert and the bday zatsu afterward.
Which is funnier since it's actually 2 streams combined that got mogged by a sheet of paper

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>>73115075
It's funny how that piece of paper completely mogs Doki's channel besides her two first streams post drama buff. I'm glad Dokifags are self aware enough to know that their money is better spent going to charity than to a grifter though

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>>73114914
>obvious joke
Fucking VALVE had to remove a tribute reference they made for him when he came back.
At least make up a better excuse for this sister

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>>73110554
Well, Sonny lives in Australia so there's a high chance he will stream during AU aka JP time.

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>>73115867
This entire thread is retarded because they’re ignoring how he streams at 5-6am EST almost every day, of course he’s gonna hardly have a western audience

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>>73114652
Yeah, Luca's doing fine. He's totally growing just like Nijisanji needs him to.
What gets me is I don't know how the fuck they let Mysta escape. The man was earning this kind of money every other day, and they just bled him dry and threw him to the tax wolves.
I honestly forgot Sonny was ever in LuxNoc due to how irrelevant he usually was. The sonny thing is just weird. He's earned more in this one stream than he has in like 6 months. He averages 100-200ish on a regular stream and maybe 1k on an event.

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>>73114652
Yes, he's totally doing fine. He's absolutely growing just as Nijisanji relied on the EN branch to do.
Actually, fuck, man. I was curious to see if this is the biggest NijiEN has had and went to Mysta to check, but god, they really fucked up. Mysta was making this kind of money almost every few days.
It's really bizarre, too. Sonny usually averages 100-200 usd at most each stream, with 1k on very, very rare occasions. This one stream has gotten him more money than I think he's earned in like 6 months. This one, single stream is nearly 7% of his total earnings SINCE DEBUT. It's higher than mysta's highest karaoke when he was raking in 5-10k every single stream. I wonder if the sisters can actually keep this up, or if they're seriously worried about the branch closing and are desperately trying to inflate the numbers...

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>>73108387
Are you jealous incel

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>>73115815
>The entire community is retarded and don't know when someone is clearly joking so I must also be retarded

You are not a free thinker. The fucker said it was a joke and he didn't expect so many people to actually take it seriously

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>>73116448
More curious, if anything. Where was all this money over the past year and 2023? Can the chinese sisters really keep up this kind of income? They could actually save the branch if they do this 5 or 6 more times before the Q4 report comes out.

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>>73116434
>Child thinks that fans supporting their oshi on their birthday is an attempt to inflate his numbers

Just admit it, brother. You were wrong, Nijisanji EN still thrives

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>ITT: Holotrannies getting BTFO... AGAIN

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>>73116510
A joke that lasted several years and he only "apologized" for when called out?
4 fucking years of fake cancer is just a joke?

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>>73116605
>Where was all this money over the past year and 2023?
It's a birthday stream
Why don't you pull up last year's birthday to compare if you want a serious analysis?

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>>73116434
If the EN branch does close, they will keep him as part of the merged branch. If he is making money from his streams and not cussing problems, then there is no point to get rid of him.

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>>73114714
Kekekekek Sayu wishes she could have stayed in Niji long enough to get her hands on some Niji money but her retardation cost her the job so she shifted into going full anti despite her document trying to saying otherwise. Let's see how long her saviorfag grift goes on for, she will never see 25K in her streams in her life

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>>73116605
>he only needs 5 or 6 more birthday streams to save NijiEN
Kek, I wouldn’t put that past Niji to try to do all in one month.

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>>73109068
Asian women are forced to work in China so they actually have disposable income, unlike Western vtuber sisters who leech off their parents hoping to snag a boyfriend who will support them (they won't.)

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>>73116841
He was never “called out” he came out about it on his own lmao

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>>73110096
Holos make good money with memberships, merch, and sponsorships. Just because someone earns a lot of money during birthday stream doesn't mean they earn more than holos.

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>>73108387
btw the bottom half of that image is from last year's birthday stream
https://hololyzer.net/2j3j/archive/superchat/HuuEFM5ND5I.html
>>73116605
That money has always been there, do not compare birthday streams to normal streams. He actually earned even more this year, pic related
https://hololyzer.net/2j3j/archive/superchat/0XuGsiO2TfY.html

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>>73117163
>Holocope

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>>73108387
Was he always that popular? Because that's pretty crazy even for a birthday stream and beat out Fulgar hard so it feels like an outlier

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>>73116856
huh, wow. I guess they actually save it all for his birthday. Kind of weird but whatever, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine getting all that money and only 30% goes to you.

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>>73117211
Yeah that's pretty much what I expected. He gets very little for normal streams but overperforms on birthdays.

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>>73116841
>"It lasted several years!"
>Any kind of basic research says it was three
>"he only "apologized" for when called out?"
ESL. He removed himself from the Internet for three years, came back and realized people actually took it ass blast seriously.
>"I am of the opinion you should be able to joke about anything you want as long as it’s funny, but in this case, it really wasn’t funny. “I really don’t have an excuse. I mean, what can I say, I just really love the feeling of taking someone for a ride. I just took it too far this time."

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>>73117210
20% of his earnings since debut come from his 3 birthday streams. This is actually kind of interesting. I think Luca's is coming up soon so hopefully the fujos can put out another miracle.

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>>73117334
>hopefully

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Wow so not inserting yourself needlessly into retarded drama actually allows you to do decent even if you don’t necessarily have the most fans? GOLLY GEE GOOSHERS BATMAN SOMEONE SHOULDVE TOLD ELIRA!

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>>73117316
crazy but I guess if it's consistent there's probably no foul play. More power to him, I guess.

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>>73117331
It will be funny when he fakes his death in niji too

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>>73117334
That it is strangely consistent

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>>73116434
>drink whenever I am below 6th place
Jesus. That poor hag had it rough.

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>>73117233
Blame jewtube. Wonder how much money he got from Donolabs though, they're less greedy

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>>73117442
Well Pomu shoved Pomudachi's into a rocket during the final part of her graduation stream. He could get murdered at the end of his. Don't worry, I got your back, Sonny my man.

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he has a very dedicated yume fanbase, even more than vox in my opinion since vox drove his all away. most of his fans are doxsis who stalk him everywhere and shit on every female he collabs with. feel bad for him since he has the most menhera fanbase but at least they pay well

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>>73117442
This is the equivalent of saying Kyo and Mysta faked their death and tricked his fans. You retards are inconsistent as shit

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>>73117654
>feel bad for him since he has the most menhera fanbase
this is true, anyone who has ever stepped foot in /NijiEN/ knows about the br*skadet menace, but at least they do pay up

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>>73109378
NO FUCKIN WAY REALLY? Shit I don’t want to sub to a Niji…

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>>73117680
Unless they also faked their deaths in the past, I don't see the relation here sister

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>>73117654
>getting stalked everywhere by Taiwanese women with access to their fathers’ coffers
A fate worse than death.

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>>73117702
If they didn't drop him after finding out about the fake death thing, nothing can stop them. They're too far gone.

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>>73117654
Sounds like another opportunity to fake illness when he needs to get away from niji.

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>>73117834
>Kyo and Mysta both say they're gonna fucking die in their graduation stream
>Kyo pretends his house was broken into for a bit in a stream

Where's the autism for them?

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>>73117936
I mean we already have faked suicide attempts to attack Niji. Wouldn't be surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>73117959
AFAIK they didn't disappear off the net for years so people would assume they actually passed, sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118028
>to attack Niji
Funny, that’s now how I remember it.

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>>73118028
>fake
Didn't Nijisanji say they were real? So now you think they're lying but only when it's convenient to defend the company?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73110096
>good merch vs slop
>why aren't Holos sending more SCs?

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>>73114199
>Using EN timezones when sonny's audience is primarily asian
Stop huffing copium

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>>73116688
Did you miss the part where this was the highest supa'd stream for ANY niji in 2 years?, This is literally the entire fanbase pooling their energy around this guy, Fulgur's birthday wasn't even remotely close to this, neither was his outfit reveal, And those were both in march too

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118457
Tbf it's actually consistent for this guy to do this well on birthdays for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118457
Almost everyone who donated was a year member, you’re retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118600
That doesn't disprove what i said about the whole fanbase rallying behind him, Old fans probably just fucked off

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118028
Niji themselves acknowledged it was real you shit eating worthless brainless thoughtless sub-human

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118703
I meant to say 1+ year member, a ton of them were also old (2 year) members, you’re a baffoon if you think the entire fanbase just decided to pool their wallets into him

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>>73118230
They do. They just send it every stream instead of once a year in a lump sum.

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>>73118037
Retards assuming someone was being serious because they fucked off from the Internet is still the fault of retards. It was obviously a joke, the same way Kyo and Mysta were obviously joking. Are you really saying that if Mysta decided to get an office job post Niji, people would actually assume he fucking died?

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>>73118703
yeah anon I hate him too but I think this one is just too consistent to be foul play. Briskadets apparently have a thing for birthdays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118457
Fulgur’s reveal managed to be a Vox-tier massive downgrade though. Who’d want to donate to that

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118849
>Retard unironically shows his Oshi getting mogged by a male

I thought you retards were smart. Why are you admitting to losing to Niji?

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>>73118851
>Retards assuming someone was being serious because they fucked off from the Internet is still the fault of retards. It was obviously a joke, the same way Kyo and Mysta were obviously joking. Are you really saying that if Mysta decided to get an office job post Niji, people would actually assume he fucking died?
Is it a joke to pretend to have an illness for months before going offline for several years, diluting people's empathy for people ACTUALLY going through that shit?
Fuck off. I've had enough creators actually fucking die to get pissed at this scumbag.

[Anonymous No.]

I genuinely don't see what's impressive about one big stream a year when holos make thousands upon thousands across multiple streams, This guy's supas every OTHER day of the year is mediocre at best and that's even before the drama, compare his monthly earnings to any holo girl and he is instantly eclipsed

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>>73118914
Sister that's over 17000 usd in one week. She makes 2 sonny birthdays every single month while he's waiting for next year's dump.

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>>73118914
>Sonny's streams have supas in the low 3 digit or 2 digit range 99% of the time
>He has 1 stream which surpasses the rest of his streaming year combined
>This somehow means he is mogging every other vtuber in existence just because his audience only pays him once a year
kekaroo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119011(me)
*two weeks. Point still stands. Sonny's actual income is pitiful as far as superchats go compared to the hologirls, so I don't understand what you're trying to say.

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>>73118851
To be fair this isn’t the best angle to defend him on. It was a sick joke as admited by him in his apology video but he was also serious about wanting to escape the internet and he was in a dark place at the time (also a teenager) which lead him into wanting to do it with a “bang”. I think it’s reasonable for people to hold it against him but what isn’t is not considering the situation on a nuanced level (and actually listening to what he said when he atoned for it) and realizing people can do shitty things and make mistakes in their youth that they later learn from to grow better as people, which if you actually paid attention you could tell is the case for him but no one here’s gonna budge on their opinion since you know why

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>>73118950
>Pretended to have an illness for months
He said in the same video he took before his three year break that he never talked about his "illness" because it was a "major bummer". Not something to take seriously
>going offline for several years
It was three
>diluting people's empathy for people ACTUALLY going through that shit?
Next time, retards shouldn't believe everything they hear online without evidence. I'm actually a very important US politician and I'm here to announce that the government is planning to attack Russia. Do you believe me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119011
So even with her birthday stream included, she still couldn't match a male's birthday stream in a week? What an absolute failure on your part, numberfags. I still like Fauna because she's an Issac player so stop using her in your wars. It's making me feel bad having to larp that I care about her money

[Anonymous No.]

>sisters trying to pull this SC game despite him pulling in overall less than Kaela
Holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73114989
I wonder if the covers actually lead to an uptick in interest or popularity for him? Hence a bigger birthday. He might actually stick around longer if this sticks

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118851
Holy shit, a vtuber joking like "haha i'm graduating that means im dying lol" is not the same as telling the community you're DYING OF CANCER and then disappearing off the internet for lliteral years!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119469
What else do they have at this point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119492
No he literally just gets insane birthday numbers. And never anywhere else.
>>73117211

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>>73119510
Just letting you know, but this is another thing twisted about the situation people like to spread for some reason, but he literally explicitly said in his “announcement” that it wasn’t cancer. It was explained as more of a mysterious neurological thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>73117163
Not saying that he was earning more than Holo. He definitely isn't. Just that amount of SC he got for his birthday (and that only) was pretty respectable for his popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119510
He never said he was dying of cancer, he said it was an illness. In his video back, he said he talked to people that had cancer and stopped thinking the joke was funny so he apologized. Glad to see you admit that if Mysta disappeared after his graduation stream that you would have actually thought he was dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>73108387
Don't like males, but he was an
very obscure youtuber I liked as a teen in 2014 so Sonny gets a pass from me. Seems like an alright guy as a vtuber,too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119378
Yeah fauna is SOOOOOOO mogged by brisko i mean just compare their lifetime supas and you'll se-----Oh....

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119613
>Conventionally doesn't include his streams that got 2K

Least disingenuous numberfag

[Anonymous No.]

what is "Actually Impressive" about a guy who has HISTORICALLY only done well on one singular day of the year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119784
I know it's hard for you to do math, but 5 streams of 900 dollars is worth more than 1 stream of 2000 dollars.
Do I need to bring out the goats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119784
You mean all the streams during 2022 and early 2023 when LuxNoc were at their height? What are his recent numbers looking like outside of birthdays

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119710
>Compares Fauna's birthday week to Sonny's birthday stream and shows she got completely mogged
>Immediately runs to life time superchats while ignoring that Sonny doesn't stream as consistently as Fauna

Like I said, you can just give up now. Shitting on you by numberfagging Fauna makes me sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119378
>nijiseethe
say that again without crying

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120072
>Compares Fauna's birthday week to Sonny's birthday stream and shows she got completely mogged
Compare the last 30 days both had and tell me who was mogged again?, You shit eating fujo retards don't seem to understand that brisko ONLY makes money on one singular day of the year, That isn't impressive that's just sad, Also
>sonny doesn't stream as consistently
He is one of the only NijiEN members who HAS been streaming during the past 2 months

[Anonymous No.]

>73120072
>sister can't read
>claims victory because they can't read so clearly we must be moving goalposts

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120072
>Like I said, you can just give up now. Shitting on you by numberfagging Fauna makes me sad
no keep going,its funny looking at retarded sister like you trying to look smart but only end up being a clown

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119873
It's a good thing it wasn't 1 stream but 2 along with a stream that got him 800 dollars in superchats not including gifted memberships and Donolabs. This is all shifting away from the point of his birthday mogging hers hard

[Anonymous No.]

How did he do it without the asmr buff like Vox?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120290
>Maybe if I continue to aggressively goal post shift, I can derail the argument again!
Sonny doesn't stream as consistently as Fauna, don't know you're bringing in other Nijis when we're talking about Sonny and Fauna
>>73120345
Dramafags continue seething while being too pussy to actually respond to people. Who brought up Fauna again? Cause it wasn't me. In a hilarious misplay from numberfags, they showed that Sonny beat Fauna's birthday stream when no one was even talking about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120601
>Not one stream but two
Where?
>Also including gifted memberships
That is a rabbithole you REALLY don't wanna go down because all of tempus and armis get spammed with gifted subs on a regular basis, Way more than they are actually superchatted

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120601
>sonny earns 20k in one month, barely 3k in last month and roughly the same several months prior
>Fauna earns over 20k every single month.
>nijisanji thriving

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120869
It's not goalpost shifting to point out the reality of a guy who only gets paid once a year vs every other vtuber in existence
>Maybe if i bury my head in the sand and screech "NO THAT DOESN'T COUNT REEEEEEEE" over and over again nobody will notice i'm getting owned

[Anonymous No.]

>>73108387
>Canada plus Australia make almost as much together as USA
>less than 1/5 the total population
Many such cases!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>73121004
>Argument is about Fauna's birthday week vs Sonny's birthday stream
>Sonny's birthday mogs Fauna's birthday week and the week before
>"But...but...muh lifetime superchats"
Yeah, that has nothing to do with the original argument you were making. You lost so you started to bring up lifetime numbers. What's hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120945
>T. Sapling that doesn't support his Oshi on her birthday and is trying to find excuses

[Anonymous No.]

The constant HOLOSEETHE ITT brings me joy

[Anonymous No.]

>>73120345
Should've seen the last thread about Luca, they couldn't even count.

Did you know there's 31 hours in a day?

[Anonymous No.]

>sisters still don't understand that the whole thread was commenting on how strange it is for a streamer to have shit numbers except for one single day of the year this whole time. Constantly moving goalposts to make their streamer seem less pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122207
Who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122119
I saw it. Thanks for the reminder. I should've used more goats in my examples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122119
Count this. What's the bigger number? 25,000 or 11,000? Let's multiply that 11,000 by 2. Is it bigger than 25,000?

She got less than half of what Sonny got despite him being Niji when dramafags swore they were finished and Hololive won. I'd be ashamed if I were you

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122119
It was fucking hilarious watching a sister lose a hypothetical they themselves made up, you literally cannot make that shit up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122207
>except for one single day of the year this whole time.

Holy shit. Are you actually a tourist dramafag? Are birthday streams a foreign concept to you? Not only are you too pussy to respond to people properly, you're also admitting to being a tourist. Jesus , you faggots have no shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122587
>Least obvious samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>73121933
>Argument is about Fauna's birthday week vs Sonny's birthday stream
No it wasn't you just decided that it was
>Sonny's birthday mogs Fauna's birthday week and the week before
And literally any vtuber including holostars and HoloID regularly mods sonny outside of his One oh so special Day a year
>"But...but... muh birthday superchats"
Yeah, that has nothing to do with sonny only making money once a year. You lost so you started to define what the argument was in order to save face. What's hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn it why is my oshi always fucking brought up in the vicinity of fucking numbers all the fucking time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122476
>>73122686
ok, now divide 25000 by 365, the number of days in the year.
For fuck's sake, in the same two months him and Luca combined hasn't even beaten Dokibird despite being backed by the second* largest vtuber company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122881
Sorry I brought her up, she was just the first one on my mind as a comparable holo from around the same time frame. Love fauna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73110959
I feel bad that they're debuffed so hard by being in the girls' shadows. Hololive is known for the girls so the men can't thrive because their audience doesn't want to share one with the girls (unless they're dykes).

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122476
>>73122686
You fuckers just don't get it, Look at every other Sonny Stream the past 6 months, only three of them break 4 digits in supas before for his birthday stream,That's the point, Holos and other Vtubers make less on their birthdays but comparing in a vacuum is retarded when every other vtuber gets supas throughout the year

[Anonymous No.]

>>73109068
China is a country of extremes, you either work 18 hours a day, 1$ an hour, or your family owns 15 factories and half of Canada, naturally the factory drones quite literally can't watch streams between working and sleeping, so the only chinks on YT are actual oil barroness'

[Anonymous No.]

>>73111382
That's news to me too, and here I thought Sony was one of the sane and descent ones. His chemistry with Pomu made me kek. Why did he do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122769
>Faggot shows a screenshot of Fauna's superchat numbers in two weeks vs Sonny's single day
>Faggot proceeds to show a different screenshot of lifetime supers despite his original example proving Sonny made more in one day than Fauna in two weeks including her birthday stream

And that's not goal post shifting? You lost on your own grounds then ran to life time supers. It's embarrassing

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123002
I bet you’re from reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123288
He was young and dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123381
nah, just having fun
>>73123303
OK, so if Sonny earns more in a single day than Fauna does in two weeks consistently, that should be reflective in his superchat history, right?
It was an example to show how Sonny earning money on one day of the year and doing dogshit at all other times is bizarre and unusual, and not at all indicative of the health of the branch considering his average earnings on all non-birthdays are so pitiful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123747
I think you should stop caring about numbers on a screen and watch streams, you’d probably have more fun doing that than shitposting over stupid shit on a basket weaving forum

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122921
>Retard actually thinks he makes 0 money on non birthday streams despite his VR chat streams consistently getting over $2,000
Dokibird can't even beat Luca's lifetime superchats lol
>>73123078
Not the one who started comparing Sonny to other tubers. Sapcucks were and they accidentally proved that Sonny mogged what Fauna made in half a month, birthday included

[Anonymous No.]

>impressive
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123870
Just for the sake of asking how often does he stream VR chat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123857
Last time I did that my oshi nearly committed suicide because of these freaks.
>>73123870
Sister we can see the superchat history ourselves. The man's earnings are completely pathetic and in scattered lumps for someone who's supposed to be a "rival" to hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123747
>Sonny made more in a single day than Fauna did in half a month
>What retarded inbred ESLs heard: "Sonny consistently makes more money than Fauna every single day"

The point being is that holofags failed at tearing down Niji and post drama, Sonny is still thriving. He made more this stream than the stream the year before despite faggots loving to cope about Niji in specific declining. He also consistently makes over 2k on VR chat streams so don't know where you're buying your drugs over him making 0 money on non birthday streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124146
>Last time I did that my oshi nearly committed suicide because of these freaks.
What… Does that have to do with superchats? Numberfags are truly something else

[Anonymous No.]

>>73123870
You fucktards keep screeching the same stupid point, If this was ANY other day of the year sonny would be getting mogged by the runtiest of holostars in terms of supas for fucks sake

[Anonymous No.]

Well all this dumb thread told me is that there are unironically Niji numberfags who shitpost using numbers. All this time I thought it was mostly holofags and phasefags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124146
Multiple instances of him getting over 800 dollars on regular streams including a monster hunter stream ( a debuff game). His VR chat streams get him over 2k and his average seems to be around 500 per stream. The larp is getting old

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124319
>He consistently makes 2k on VR chat streams
>He only had 3 streams that did above 1k in supas over the course of the last S I X M O N T H S
>Sonny making 25k in a month means the branch is alive and well!!! pay no attention to the fact that he was the O N L Y one to make above 10k in supas the past 2 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124721
>his average seems to be around 500 per stream
More like 100, Look at how many streams are making 10-70$ in the past month

[Anonymous No.]

>>73109378
no fucking way it's fitzthistlewitz.
Stop talking out of your ass, post proof
I miss him so bad.. .it's been a literal fucking decade

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124413
More that last time I focused entirely on streams, I wasn't paying attention to all of the fuckery going on in the community driving her further and further into depression.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124754
This relevant to everything you just were seething about
>>73124721
Also keep your stories straight. Were half the Nijis hiding from dramafags in the past two months or were they not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73109378
>>73117822
>>73124883
it's not, the correct guy has already been mentioned in this thread but not by name

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124413
You're replying to a dokifag who really hate nijisanji.
see the last time he used that image >>70518375

[Anonymous No.]

I just wanna say as someone who hates Anycolor for their practices all this numberfagging is just plain retarded, Desperate tribalists trying to tear down this guy's stream when (afaik) sonny hasn't been accused of any bullying or had any big yabs beyond being a fujobaiter I get people wanna tear niji as a whole down but you really can't impeach this guy's birthday numbers, Fujos are gonna fujo and sonny himself hasn't been involved in any of the big dramas so why are we expecting him to take a hit again?, Numberchimps seriously need to be put down cause they make this hobby absolute cancer i mean serious did none of you listen to Calli's overkill song?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124923
That sounds like a stretch, just watch streams, having a slap fight over numbers is pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124879
Guy streamed 10 times last month and only two were under 100. Two of those ten streams were over 400 dollars and one was over 800. He constantly plays RPGs and obscure indies too. Just give credit where credit is due

[Anonymous No.]

>>73108387
If you look at his past birthday streams they do this every year. I don't know what these people see in this guy at all but whatever the fuck he's doing is working. Does he do BFE? I looked up some clips but I don't really understand what his deal is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124721
>monster hunter stream ( a debuff game)
thats shit is FOTM sister and his SC are PATHETIC for your so called "niji is the strongest for males" that full of fujo,wheres the fujo money? 4amm8

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125152
Yeah, maybe. God, I'm so tired. I just want to go back to 2021 when things seemed to be looking up and everybody was happy and growing and not viciously attacking each other directly to the point where I'd actually have to fear if the entertainer I used to cope with my own shit might be dead or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125365
You’re part of the problem though

[Anonymous No.]

>>73124319
>The point being is that holofags failed at tearing down Niji and post drama, Sonny is still thriving. He made more this stream than the stream the year before despite faggots loving to cope about Niji in specific declining. He also consistently makes over 2k on VR chat streams so don't know where you're buying your drugs over him making 0 money on non birthday streams
sister,nijiEN already buried under the ground,thriving from what? hell? lmao even your beloved riku sama are struggling to come up with something to cover up this shit,take your meds so you can stop your delusion

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125146
It's just the catalog that is talking about this because the catalog really hates Nijisanji. The number thread briefly talked about it and lost interest because it's not really that interesting to talk about in the end. He did do well today.
I blame Fulgur and the discord leak for making numberfagging and tribalfagging a permanent part of this board's discourse

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125362
>Game that released in 2018 is a flavor of the month game, I swear!

Where's the fujo money, you ask? Mogging Holo birthdays as you can see

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125362
>>73125578
You two numberfags should kiss and go make out in a discord or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125481
Today, maybe. These past few months have just been fucking awful. I can't really focus on streams anymore when nearly all of the places I do that get raided daily by this fucktarded tween girls, and the fact that they're even doxxing and going after the people I watch in person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125365
Listen kid you need to be 18 to visit this board, also real talk all the shitposting about doki does literally NOTHING to her, All the seethe and tribalist nonsense is worthless and has no effect on the actual vtubers (Well except for the doxxing the nijisisters do to literally everyone including their oshis because they are unhinged sub-human trashpiles) Doki had a fun apex stream today and was in good spirits despite doing poorly, Go watch that instead of fretting about what unhinged dramafags /here/ are saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>73121259
>>73120996
Hey buddy where's the epic bombshell that will take down Niji once and for all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125333
If I'm guessing, it's because he plays into the big brother role a little and I guess women like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125677
For Doki, maybe. But for others like fuwamoco, the fuckers are seriously breaking containment to twitter and even RM shit to harass the girls and it's seriously weighing on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125677
>except for the doxxing the nijisisters do to literally everyone including their oshis

Sonny got softdoxxed in this same thread. What is this projection?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125365
>God, I'm so tired. I just want to go back to 2021 when things seemed to be looking up and everybody was happy and growing and not viciously attacking each other directly to the point where I'd actually have to fear if the entertainer I used to cope with my own shit might be dead or not.
oh really? then you should kill niji as a whole because they are literally the problem here,thats not an OPINION,that is a FACT,holo is thriving,they dont drive their talent to suicide,they are a japanese company too and a fuckng idol on top of that.how is holo can be thriving with multiple country/audience while niji is full of mess?

you want to free of the problem,then get rid of the problem,that is nijisanji,if you want to cope and be ignorant then prepare yourself dealing with more shit to come,oh yeah this is not the end btw,its not like niji "fixing" their problem lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125866
The holo numberfag goes full mask off. If you want to complain about companies driving talents to suicide, look no further than Hololive and Rushia. But she's Japanese so I guess you don't care about her

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125578
>>Game that released in 2018 is a flavor of the month game, I swear!
>Where's the fujo money, you ask? Mogging Holo birthdays as you can see
we all know you never watch stream sister,thats why you dont know about MH being fotm.
mogging holo? lol,lmao even,even phasefag will laugh at you

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125866
Anon, I fucking hate Niji. They can't die soon enough.
>>73125846
For one, that was a shitpost and isn't Sonny. For two, posting someone's address, legal name, and passport is not the same as a past professional work account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125967
Where's the exploding popularity of Monster Hunter Iceborne? Nowhere, meme supermarket game , poppy playtime and content warning are Fotms. Not a game released six years ago that's not even the newest in the series

[Anonymous No.]

>>73118899
His fans have known the old man model were coming for years, they wouldn't be put off by it if they already watch his content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126101
>sister has no idea what's going on in the video game scene
holy shit I knew they only cared about cute boys but this is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126101
Are you an actual retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125992
The shit post was a result of bringing up Sonny's past life. And what Nijisister harddoxxed anyone? You faggots love saying this shit but don't realize Twittertards don't watch streams so they aren't Niji fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126264
>ignoring the nyfco in the room

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125961
>The holo numberfag goes full mask off. If you want to complain about companies driving talents to suicide, look no further than Hololive and Rushia. But she's Japanese so I guess you don't care about her
mask off? sister,only you and your retarded fellow fans that using mask,falseflagging like a pathetic piece of shit you are,LITERALLY EVERYONE,holofag,phasefag,vshojofag,indie even fuckng normie LAUGH and SHITTING on you because how retarded you are,want proof?

you said it yourself "look further for rushia" everyone PRAISING cover for getting rid of rushia and dodge a fuckng NUKE of menhera,yeah only you are the retarded one here lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126187
I do. Just because people are starting to play a game again doesn't make it a FOTM. What next? Is Apex a FOTM now too? New releases are FOTM, not old games getting a resurgence

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126415
nah,you just fuckng retarded,lets just make it simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126328
>Thinks Nijisisters own Nyfco and that it includes full names, addresses and passport information

You probably get all your information from retards here

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126352
>Yeah, Rushia did attempt suicide multiple times because of Cover but SHE'S A MENHERA SO WHO CARES

Yup, the Holofag goes mask off

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126713
NTA but the point was that she's self-destructive to the point of being a liability not just to herself, but to the safety of the other talents under cover's protection. After her departure, she was relatively popular for a long time until her abusive nature got exposed by her ex husband, followed by a slew of inane legal cases, some of which got thrown out due to being fucktarded. She was never bullied by the company itself and was very well liked up until she was exposed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73125823
What happened to/with Fuwamoco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126713
>Because of cover
Because she was a domestic abuser and the amber heard of japan?
>Rushia/Michael Cat is totally on the same level as selen/doki who had a fully unimpeachable record and universal goodwill outside of nijisanji to the point where companies and sponsors are swarming her, Let's just forget all of rushia's suicide baiting and beyond the pale intense GFE while she was abusing her husband

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126918
They're extremely prone to being one-guy'd. The sisters were spreading a bunch of mean shit all over twitter and they got visibly depressed. It's definitely not helping with all of the stress about the move right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126876
Rushia got fired for talking to Korekore. What was she saying to Korekore? That she was being harassed by a senior coworker and was suicidal because of it. What safety was being threatened? She also told Korekore to not talk about anything she said to him on stream , no one's safety was threatened except hers after her unicorns turned on her. She filed 0 legal cases against anyone but her ex and her ex was caught lying in his post too

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126595
>well, who cares if the sisters live on the doxxsite
>it’s not like THEY ever doxxed anyone before!
DYRBI? Who am I kidding, of course you do.

[Anonymous No.]

Comparing Rushia to Selen should be a genuine fucking crime, I don't remember rushia getting 3 pages of smear campaign directed to her when she was terminated, I don't remember the other talents shit talking her after she left or fully and completely memory holing her (well until the shit with MFMF came out atleast), Like seriously the only thing they have in common is that they were both fired and both attempted suicide at one point, But the circumstances are in whole other universes

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126595
>the people who use the doxxsite as a playground and regularly talk about real world information that's actually actionable are totally free of guilt when that real world information gets abused by the bad actors (the same people talking about the real world information in the first place)

[Anonymous No.]

>>73127281
They’ll persevere and the sisters will lose another organ or five.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder: don't engage the doxxroaches, they are not worth the air they breathe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73127350
Holofags are pussies too afraid to directly respond while anonymous. An increasingly common thing. Very concerning. There was no smearing, everything in the notice was factual and Rushia basically got the same treatment, if not worse due to Cover calling her a liar
The other talents completely erased her and they didn't respond because Rushia never attacked them. She said she was suicidal because she was being harassed by a senior coworker to Korekore and was fired for it and called a liar. 10x worse than what Nijisanji did

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijinig headcanon
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73127808
At least stop drooling before you type retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73127808
You can makeup bullshit all you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73127808
>There was no smearing, everything in the notice was factual
Literally rewriting history you mongoloid, Almost nothing in selen's termination was factual
>and Rushia basically got the same treatment,
No she didn't not even close
>if not worse due to Cover calling her a liar
Making shit up wholesale as if none of us can fact check the events we all saw with our own god damn eyeballs
>he other talents completely erased her and they didn't respond because Rushia never attacked them
Pekora talked about how much they fought to keep her, Mori expressed regret and sadness and up until the MFMF stuff happened she was a shoe in for projects like holocure which contained references to her even AFTER her termination
>She said she was suicidal because she was being harassed by a senior coworker to Korekore
Prove that's what she was saying
>and called a liar.
By who?, certainly not cover corporation, You seem to be confusing her story with mel's
>10x worse than what Nijisanji did
Bull fucking shit you worthless liar

[Anonymous No.]

>>73127808
>Because rushia never attacked them
Are you implying selen attacked her former co-workers in any way?, Cause she didn't also rushia was threatening to sue cover but backed off when she realized she didn't have a case, Selen just wanted to move on and never threatened a lawsuit once

[Anonymous No.]

This board is just trolls and seethers falling for the bait of the trolls every single fucking day, None of you watch vtubers, None of you give a shit about vtubers, It's all trolls trolling trolls and sub-humans spazzing out

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128152
So Selen didn't do shit without permission, never paid anyone late and didn't disobey managers then run to Twitter? Whatever you say, drone
>Prove that's what she was saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yadVEV-f4

Read it and weep. Don't know in what world "spreading misinformation that could harm our reputation" doesn't mean someone is lying. They memoryholed Rushia and some members just removed her from everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128381
Yet still, here you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128253
>Selen writes a document accusing multiple people of harassment
>Selen threatens legal action against multiple members
>Selen didn't attack anyone though

Hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128585
>Selen didn't do shit without permission,
She was accused of breaking third party copyrights when she didn't
>never paid anyone late
Yeah that was niji as per every single artists coming out of the woodwork to say it was niji's fault and not selen
>and didn't disobey managers then run to Twitter?
Covid huh...
>Links 1.5 hour long stream with no timestamps and says "read it and weep"
So in the mind of a nijifaggot rushia and korekore are totally 1000% trustworthy and legit and sayu and falseeyed are lying cloutchasing dramawhores okay sure thing buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128868
>Nijinig fan fiction

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128868
>Selen writes a document accusing multiple people of harassment
We have no idea what was in that private HR complaint we've never seen that nobody but HR and lawyers were supposed to see but go off sis
>Selen threatens legal action against multiple members
Literal fanfiction that never ever happened not even once
>Selen didn't attack anyone though
Exactly she said she wanted to move on, But niji certainly attacked her with that smear campaign of a termination notice full of lies and the deliberately timed black box stream to fuck over her neopets stream and smear her with even more lies

[Anonymous No.]

As a neutral third party i think niji fans need to shut up cause they make themselves and their corpo look utterly horrible each time they speak

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128585
>So Selen didn't do shit without permission, never paid anyone late and didn't disobey managers then run to Twitter? Whatever you say, drone
Yes. That's exactly what we're saying. Since the people she allegedly "didn't pay" or "didn't get permissions from" say that she bent over backwards to accomodate them despite Nijisanji themselves fucking up countless times.
If Nijisanji had the receipts to prove their obvious lies, they'd have put them out months ago after they got called out the first time. Or the second time. Or the third time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73129144
Yeah i agree these people are so utterly mystifying in how stupid they look repeating the same exact lies over and over again, Who is taking these guys seriously again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73129199
Don't bother these drones are utterly hopeless and know they are full of shit, They just think they can drown out rational voices by repeating the same lies over and over again and spamming threads with their opinion to drown out other voices

[Anonymous No.]

ITT we have
>Number chimps flinging shit at eachother in ever increasing levels of desperation
>More sister seethe at doki because they somehow can't let her go after 2 fucking months
>Random fandeads coming out of no where to defend michael randomly

[Anonymous No.]

>>73128921
>She was accused of breaking third party copyrights when she didn't
Completely memoryhole her fucking up fall guys perms so hard, she was barred from organizing JP tournaments and her streams constantly being removed because of her fucking perms up like resident evil
>Yeah, Selen didn't pay the artists on time but that's still Niji's fault.
I accept your concession
>Thinks shitting on management at all is the same as breaking the rules and blaming management for it
Kek
>Holofags constantly mention that Rushia was fired for talking to dramatubers but don't want to actually listen to what the dramatuber said what happened
He seems pretty relevant and is someone that knows what happened. Don't know what you fags are afraid of

>>73129020
>We have no idea what was in that private HR complaint we've never seen that
So you agree that there's 0 proof it's an HR complaint because no one has seen it and that no one knows what's in it meaning there's no evidence of harassment? Are the dramafags evolving?
>Literal fanfiction that never ever happened not even once
Ah but Niji said it did. Are you saying they're lying? In that case, throw out any information you got from the notice and the stream
>Retarded timeloop of a Dokifag crying about his menhera being exposed
Telling the truth isn't smearing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73129199
>Retard artist confirmed Selen paid her late since every Niji member to ever exist talks about paying out of pocket for MVs. Like Aia talking about commissioning Ike for mixing and Maria saying she pays directly for MVs
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462

Why do they need receipts when the retards also proved they were right in an attempt to smear them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73129846
She didn't fuck up the fall guys perms she just didn't get perms of niji management to hold international tournaments, She said MULTIPLE times in her statement that she was free to make NA only tournaments before and AFTER the incident, It had nothing to do with game perms, also her streams weren't CONSTANTLY removed you worthless fucktard, The RE thing was a one time deal
>Yeah, Selen didn't pay the artists on time but that's still Niji's fault.
That's not what i fucking said you mongoloid infected cunt jakarta bitch, She paid them on time MONTHS before Nijisanji would send the artists proper NDAs even sending them to artists AFTER SELEN WAS TERMINATED for fucks sake
>Thinks shitting on management at all is the same as breaking the rules and blaming management for it
Never once did selen blame management for breaking their worthless retarded rules, She took the fall every single time, To the point dragoons were getting sick of her battered housewife routine with how hard she was sucking niji cock
>Believing dramatubers only when it's convenient and they are shitting on hololive
kek fucking W
>So you agree that there's 0 proof it's an HR complaint
doki said it was a private document meant only for lawyers and management to see
>because no one has seen it and that no one knows what's in it meaning there's no evidence of harassment? Are the dramafags evolving?
We have evidence of harassment and bullying in PUBLIC based entirely on the actions of nijisanji and their conduct in terminating selen you inbred
>Ah but Niji said it did. Are you saying they're lying?
Doki said they were lying when she said she just wanted to move on and leave and that's exactly what she fucking did after they finally left her the fuck alone
>throw out any information you got from the notice and the stream
>Nijisanji is totally completely 100% believable but cover corp isn't also rushia is completely and utterly believable but selen is a lying menhera
>Retarded timeloop of a Dokifag crying about his menhera being exposed
Retarded timeloop of a SEAMonkey crying about her black company being exposed on a global scale by some of the biggest names on youtube
>Telling the truth isn't smearing.
If only they actually told the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130341
>Management is so worthless and nonexistent that they expect livers to handle and process all payments, NDAs, Project logistics, And self manage themselves even though we have proof of nijisanji being the ones responsible for sending NDAs by them sending NDAs for selen's music video after she was fucking terminated
Why are you inbred mongoloids so fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

how little of that is actually going into his pockets though

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130341
you mean they confirmed that Nijisanji never paid her like they were expected to? Thanks for playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130628
he gets 35% of it after youtube and niji take their cuts, probably even less if those donations were made on an iphone cause apple takes a cut too

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130628
Same as Hololive :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130341
>since every Niji member to ever exist talks about paying out of pocket for MVs
They pay with their own money but that doesn't mean they are the ones who are responsible for directly paying artists out of their personal paypal accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130822
So less than mint and dokibird are getting?, Cool cool, Atleast holo talents get 50% in merch instead of 2%

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130822
Didn't Cover state that their investors complained about how cover pays hololive talents too much and that they should "be more like Nijisanji" before being told to fuck off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122881
Kissing Fauna on the lips

[Anonymous No.]

>>73117163
True.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73126595
It's not like they doxxed anyone, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130982
Shhhh don't talk reason into nijifaggots they are oxygen deprived from the sheer volume of black company cum clogging their throats

[Anonymous No.]

>>73122881
because she has premium numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>73131067
kind of hot desu
Not necessarily knowing what we know about these specific girls, but the concept is hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73130414
>had nothing to do with game perms,
Proof? Because no one ever talked about needing perms to collab with people in the same company. I accept your concession on the RE fiasco being her fault
>She paid them on time
Half the artists said they had to wait for months and that Selen's communications were shaky
>Never once did selen blame management for breaking their worthless retarded rules
Sure! She only broke rules and ran to Twitter about how fucked it was she was being punished for breaking the rules
>Dramatuber directly talks to former member and has a big hand in the overall drama meanwhile all dramafags shitting on Niji know nothing
Keep on acting like it's the same
>Doki said they were lying when she said she just wanted to move on
So Doki says they were lying by never saying that all? Speaking of lies, let's talk about her moving on from Nijisanji. She's doing a great job copy and pasting everything from Niji. Can't wait for her new model to just be a Selen recolor

Cope more, Dokifag

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>>73130545
Of course they had to do Selen's remaining work for her, she was fired and left it undone for months

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>>73131321
>Proof? Because no one ever talked about needing perms to collab with people in the same company. I accept your concession on the RE fiasco being her fault
Actually, Luca himself talked about it. Specifically, he talked about he himself was exempt from the rules about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPJta-yUvI

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>>73130883
>but that doesn't mean they are the ones who are responsible for directly paying artists out of their personal paypal accounts
That's a nice rrat with no basis in reality but Raziel's smear piece proved that Niji members directly pay for commissions through PayPal since that's how Luca was paying her for the work

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>>73131321
>So Doki says they were lying by never saying that all? Speaking of lies, let's talk about her moving on from Nijisanji. She's doing a great job copy and pasting everything from Niji. Can't wait for her new model to just be a Selen recolor
Nah, she's just continuing where she left off. Cope and seethe as she continues to not give your organs the time of day as they slowly lose more and more subscribers, and more and more money. Her achievements are hers and she got them DESPITE Nijisanji, not because of it. The company's rules were fucking bullshit and even they know that nobody's buying it anymore aside from you lucultists.

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>>73131478
>Vivi is new and doesn't know that you don't need to ask for permission to collaborate with people in the company (unlike Hololive) so Luca tells her she doesn't need to
>This proves that Nijisanji bars people from collabing with each other despite open channel streams being common

Start living in reality

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>>73131568
The work that he legally wasn't allowed to commission her for and said he'd be fired for if they found out? (Which still hasn't happened due to the blatant favoritism)

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>>73131321
>Proof? Because no one ever talked about needing perms to collab with people in the same company.
>>73131478
>Half the artists said they had to wait for months and that Selen's communications were shaky
They didn't say SELEN's communications were shaky retard, stop making up bullshit, Also livers aren't responsible for sending NDAs, The company is
>Sure! She only broke rules and ran to Twitter about how fucked it was she was being punished for breaking the rules
That isn't what she said though, She blamed herself every single time and apologized, again """Covid Huh..."""
>Dramatuber directly talks to former member and has a big hand in the overall drama
But enough about sayu
>"NO SHE MUST COMPELTELY AND UTTERLY ABANDON EVERYTHING """SHE""" MADE BECAUSE NIJISANJI LITERALLY OWNS HER ENTIRE EXISTENCE REEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*Pisses and shits herself in rage*
>Cope more nijifaggot

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>>73131885
Why wasn't he legally allowed to commission her for the work? Don't just make shit up. And he never said he'd be fired for commissioning her either. Your larp isn't reality

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>>73131837
>Completely made up fanfiction interpretation with hololive thrown into the mix out of nowhere for no reason
Mind broken

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>>73132044
>Why wasn't he legally allowed to commission her for the work?
Hey blatantly obtusechama, That isn't what was said, What he did was leak future luxiem promotional materials that raziel had NO BUSINESS seeing, and also giving her his company email address so she could skinwalk him in minecraft, All of these things are MAJOR fucking NDA breaches, Also he didn't """commission""" her to write his 1 million subscriber script or his birthday script or his god damn signature

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>>73116839
Delusions run wild in Nijisisters' brains

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riling up the nijisisters is pretty funny

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>>73131568
>Luca illegally pays his sidepiece VR Chat mommy for under the table work and building his entire career for him
>This is somehow proof of official business practices within the company
Nijisisters are mindbroken retards

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>>73116839
>ITT. Coping pagpag eating gutter oil swilling Fujoshi femoids getting BTFO'd... for the 1 trillionth time since February

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>>73131974
Read
>>73131837
Pic rel. Aia mentioned having to send all the paperwork for commissions in one of her art streams. Prove the company is the one sending NDAs and not the people commissioning them. All they do is write the NDAs
>That isn't what she said though, She blamed herself every single time
Tell me what she blamed herself for in her fall guys tweet , her voice pack tweet and her mv tweet
>Admits Sayu is a dramatuber
Thank you for revealing you have a semblance of intelligence

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>>73132062
>Clip where Luca jokes about Vivi being so new she thinks she has to ask for permission from managers to collab with people
>Somehow it's delusional to not get the opposite message from this
>Ignores that new Holo waves are barred from collabing with coworkers for a month

The mental gymnastics put Twitter to shame

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>>73132410
A pussy too afraid to respond directly that's also spamming buzzwords? Where's the backbone, lil bro?

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>>73132419
holy shit now you're not even trying to hide your lies. This is getting sad.
You've used this same image so many times and each time we have to remind you that they're talking in favor of Selen and against the company for being worthless and incompetent, not the opposite. Also she constantly blamed herself in every apology she made, just like Management told her to, like a good little mindfucked, overworked, underappreciated soldier.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine how much larger doki's fanbase could be if it weren't for the "muh kurosanji' retards turning away anyone slightly normal

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>>73132419
>At that time, An email was sent to the management department to sign an NDA, But it wasn't until the end of january this year that I received an official contract
So... are you implying doki sent her the official contract at the end of january while she was also fighting to graduate with niji?
>And up until now, I haven't received any follow-up emails inquiring about the payment details.
Yeah.. from nijisanji
>Although the communication with Selen wasn't very smooth,
Because she was trying to do things by the books and wait on niji management to do their fucking jobs
>In the end, she did pay me for the work
Which she did by going AGAINST THE RULES and paying them without nijisanji's input because they didn't do their jobs
>With this kind of efficiency, You still criticize liver for owing creator's wages.
This is her saying nijisanji criticizing selen for owing wages is retarded because the COMPANY'S EFFICIENCY is utterly nonexistent
>In most cases, Commercial commissions only start after the contract is signed
The contract that NIJISANJI NEVER FUCKING SIGNED
>The project was completed, Selen had left, And there were still some artists who hadn't even seen a contract - tell me, whose fault is that? :)
How the fuck can you ESL mongoloids possibly read that as the artist blaming fucking selen?????

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>>73122086
>constant HOLOSEETHE
Pretty sure it's the other way around

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>>73132868
Imagine how much larger nijisanji's fanbase could be if it weren't for the "Muh BPD menhera grifterbird dookiebitch" retards turning away anyone slightly normal

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It'd probably be smaller. The kurosanji stuff put a ton of new eyes on her, and she's done a fantastic job keeping them and making good use out of the attention.

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>>73132817
>The retarded artist was smearing Niji! Don't use the facts she disclosed to prove they were innocent!
The irony. Like I said, where's her blaming herself on the MV tweet and fall guys tweet? What about the other voice packs? I'll be waiting

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>>73132419
>Pic rel. Aia mentioned having to send all the paperwork for commissions in one of her art streams.
It's hard to send NDAs that the company is refusing to sign, Also the part where she says she was sent the NDA in late january, Why would selen be sending her that NDA months after she fucking paid the artist???
>Prove the company is the one sending NDAs and not the people commissioning them. All they do is write the NDAs
See above
>Admits sayu is a dramatuber
They were referring to Falseeyed you illiterate faggot

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>>73133005
Nah, I don't need to spoonfeed you anymore if you're just going to keep going "BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT" every time you get shown hard evidence, or hell when you self report and post evidence smearing the company.

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>>73133005
>The retarded artist was smearing Niji!
So much for that WE LOVE ARTISTS bullshit huh mongoloid
>Don't use the facts she disclosed to prove they were innocent!
You mean like the fact that NIJI finally sent her the NDA in late january?, Again are you implying DOKI sent it to them while trying to graduate from nijisanji?

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>>73119227
NTA but three years IS several, retard. Actual definition of the word several: "More than two but not many." If you're too ESL to grasp that then it makes sense why you're deepthroating Sonny so hard.

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>>73133420

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>>73132903
>So... are you implying doki sent her the official contract at the end of january while she was also fighting to graduate with niji?
Holy shit, read the thread.

>Yeah.. from nijisanji
It was already established she was already paid. Did you read the sentences before it?
>It's not fair to fault Selen on not paying people on time but management bad
That flies in court. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. "I did bad thing but other people did worse thing so why me punish?"
>Which she did by going AGAINST THE RULES
Already debunked by every Niji liver talking about paying for MVs and not Niji. Did you actually think they shelled out 5k to 20k on request?

What contract did they not sign? What are you even blabbering about?

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>>73133496
>Already debunked by every Niji liver talking about paying for MVs and not Niji. Did you actually think they shelled out 5k to 20k on request?
Anon... Have you never had a job before? The money comes from them, but the actual invoice and NDA comes from Nijisanji. Whenever the organs contact people directly, Nijisanji management gets PISSED. It's the main reason Selen kept butting heads with them.

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>nijisister in denial
what a loser lol

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>>73133154
>>73133420
You faggots really think they didn't do the menhera's work for her after she was fired? Why do you think they got NDAs only after Selen was booted? Does any form of logic go through your barbaric, cum filled brains?

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>>73133496
>Source: My smelly ass

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>>73131321
>Nijitranny seething because his black company cant sue Doki since she is using not copyright material
KEKAROO

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>>73133789
See>>73133830

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>>73133748
>T. Cowardly dramafag
>>73133628
>The money comes from them, but the actual invoice and NDA comes from Nijisanji.
And Luca has a PayPal account he uses to commission work disproving your entire larp along with every Niji ever never mentioning invoices coming from Niji and they say "out of my own pocket" consistently. Looks like common sense really isn't all that common

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>>73133789
>after selen was booted
weren't they still trying to keep her in late january? That's the whole fucking point and the reason her termination became such a public affair. She was trying to get out quietly and they refused to let her go. The only reason they ever sent a NDA (which STILL had the wrong fucking name on it) was because they were being constantly called out for the MV bullshit.

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>>73133496
>Literally fails to read the entire post they are replying to and repeats the same debunked nonsense
How much spoonfeeding and one itchy cunt take before they FINALLY understand?
>Holy shit, read the thread.
Yeah please read the fucking thread
> It was already established she was already paid. Did you read the sentences before it?
First of all ESL, Second of all Selen paid her UNOFFICIALLY MONTHS BEFORE Because nijisanji never followed up with her
>It's not fair to fault Selen on not paying people on time but management bad
Yeah it's not fair to fault the employee for failing to send things the company isn't giving her, She never got the signed NDA from the company, ALSO NIJI IS THE ONE SENDING THE FUCKING NDAs, As per the OTHER fucking artist who said they were sent an NDA after selen was officially fucking terminated
>Already debunked by every Niji liver talking about paying for MVs and not Niji
Fucking hell please read what we're saying god fucking DAMN IT *headdesks*, It's the livers money but they aren't allowed to pay until all the paperwork is done and nijisanji kept fucking up the paperwork
What contract did they not sign?
>An email was sent to the management department to sign an NDA, But it wasn't until the end of january this year that i received the offical contract, In most cases, commercial commissions only start A F T E R the contract is signed

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>>73132994
she's not going to fuck you

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>>73134092
>and Luca has a PayPal account he uses to commission work
He literally told raziel that if niji found out about her he would be in trouble you fucking illiterate mongoloid

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>esl sisters seething that because they don't understand plain english, we must not be able to read either.

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It's okay, nijisisters. I'm also masochistic and too pussy to suffer physical pain.

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>>73133789
>You faggots really think they didn't do the menhera's work for her after she was fired?
You inbred pagpags really think nijisanji would waste their fucking time sending NDAs to artists that were already fucking paid months ago for an MV they took down and will never ever put back up?, What fucking logic are you operating on????, Seriously what are you even trying to argue by writing such inbred fanfiction?

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>>73134166
She isn't the one doing dicksucking rape ASMR sister stop projecting your degeneracy

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Can a single nijisister please link the clip of aia amare saying she had to send all the paperwork to artists for her projects?, Cause that just sounds completely and utterly made up

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>>73134111
>weren't they still trying to keep her in late january?
How much of a retard are you? Selen was suspended and she was refusing to make up for her MV retardation. She never said she wanted an immediate graduation, the bitch even says she wanted a proper goodbye to her fans
.They were preparing to terminate her so they started doing all her work for her

>>73134115
I'm not entertaining your schizophrenia anymore. Prove that Nijisanji pays for personal projects and that they're the ones sending NDAs to people that get commissioned

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>>73134199
He was talking about the Minecraft account and him talking to her about work, you retard

>>73134358
>Retarded jobless loser thinks that someone doesn't have to do the important work left behind when a worthless employee gets fired

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>>73134666
>Inbred screeching and lying that goes against what both dokibird AND nijisanji said
Jesus fucking christ you have to be a troll
>Prove that Nijisanji pays for personal projects
Nobody is saying they are
>And that they're the ones sending NDAs to people that get commissioned
Them sending NDAs to artists after selen was suspended/terminated?, And this
>They're just making up for the work SHE never did
Bullshit literally makes no sense in any fucking reality, How would they even HAVE the NDAs to send if selen was supposed to be the one MAKING THEM AND SENDING THEM, Your argument is beyond inconsistent

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>>73134666
>I wish I could've had a proper goodbye to her fans
Holy shit, how ESL are you to take this as "I was trying to have a graduation stream"
She was trying to leave ASAP due to the harassment and shitty workplace. They refused to respond. They wanted to punish her for not taking the bullet for the 400th time for their own fuckups.

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>>73134225
>>73134311
T. Pathetic pussy dramafags too afraid to engage

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Seething Nijinig tears are delicious!

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>>73108387
Can you compare to his 2022 and 2023 bday numbers? I thought he did better those years

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>>73134827
>He was talking about the Minecraft account and him talking to her about work, you retard
No SHE wasn't you inbred mongoloid sister, We were talking about luca breaking NDAs multiple times unrelated to this whole "paypal to commission artists" bullshit
>Retarded jobless loser thinks that someone doesn't have to do the important work left behind when a worthless employee gets fired
Holy seethe, Doki was worth more than the entire english branch + management team combined, If she was so """worthless"""" why is she thriving so much and getting endless deals and sponsorships now that she is free?, Fuck your worthless inbred femcel self loathing mysoginistic guts pagpag, Gutter oil Seamonkey loser, Please explain to me why nijisanji would bother sending NDAs to artists that were already paid for a project they fucking shitcanned?, How would they even KNOW the NDAs weren't sent if they weren't the ones who were supposed to send them?

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>>73135076
He didn't, actually. You can see them here. He seriously only gets paid on his birthday. 20% of his total superchats since debut were on his birthday. >>73117211

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>>73134894
>Says that Selen paid artists under the table because Nijisanji wouldn't pay them while also saying Selen was always supposed to pay them
Okay. Like I said, did you think no one was going to do shit Selen needed to do after she was fired? You think no one was gonna do the remaining work for her and just leave it undone? No one said Selen was even the one making NDAs, you faggot. Just sending them
>>73134903
Prove she was trying to leave ASAP. If she was , she wouldn't have waited until the end of January to ask for a graduation

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>>73135306
>Says that Selen paid artists under the table because Nijisanji wouldn't pay them
That ISN'T what we're saying, We're saying she didn't pay them OFFICIALLY because the official process was stalled to no ends, We aren't saying niji failed to pay them, WE'RE SAYING THEY FAILED TO SIGN AND SEND THE NDAs
>did you think no one was going to do shit Selen needed to do after she was fired?
Provide proof that selen was the one that was supposed to send NDAs, and don't just vaguely say "Aia said it once", Provide actual fucking proof of a liver saying THEY are the ones solely responsible for the entirety of the paperwork

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>>73135123
>No SHE wasn't you inbred mongoloid sister
This faggot is actually losing his mind, he can't even keep up with his own argument
>Wah Doki was important, you're wrong, wah
Is that you, Doki? I know you're here more than half the time. Why don't you check your emails and fire that faggot manager?
>Please explain to me why nijisanji would bother sending NDAs to artists that were already paid for a project they fucking shitcanned?,
Because they worked with you and had company information because of it. Are you actually retarded? Your gaslighting won't work on me
>How would they even KNOW the NDAs weren't sent if they weren't the ones who were supposed to send them?
Because they had access to your accounts, you dumb bitch

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>No one said Selen was even the one making NDAs, you faggot. Just sending them
Selen knows who she's commissioning. What kind of ESL retard do you think she is that she'd keep sending NDAs that had the wrong names on them? What the fuck. Only an ESL wagie would ever do something that retarded
>>73135306
She told people to pirate the company's IP, dropped a suicide note in the discord, and then immediately tried to kill herself. Do you seriously think she wanted to spend even a second longer at the company?

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>>73135306
>No one said Selen was even the one making NDAs, you faggot. Just sending them
Okay sure let's assume this, How does that explain the constant typos and incorrect information in the NDAs that were sent to artists?, Real professional of a billion dollar corporation, Even sending MULTIPLE NDAs with mistakes, Are you saying selen just sent the typo'd NDAs without looking them over with her manager?

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>sisters trying for the gold medal in mental gymnastics

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>>73135632
>Doesn't dispute anything and that was said and just throws insults and writes more nonsensical fanfiction
I accept your concession pagpag ;)

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>>73135632
>Is that you, Doki? I know you're here more than half the time. Why don't you check your emails and fire that faggot manager?
Doki is never here, she is way too busy doing important things with her life, Reimu is the one who has this website fucking bookmarked idiot

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>>73135769
This is the part that's the most insane to me. Selen was always extremely transparent and open to communicate. If she had any contact as far as NDAs or payment was concerned, she would have gotten them dealt with as soon as humanly possible, hence her paying directly when Nijisanji kept dropping the ball.

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>>73135598
Prove that they stalled the official process you definitely know exists and they don't pay through their own accounts like Luca did
>Provide proof that selen was the one that was supposed to send NDAs
Provide proof that Nijisanji was ever responsible in handing paper work to the people members commission. A member's word is more valuable than randoms online
>Only an ESL wagie would ever do something that retarded
Yeah, Selen
>Schizo babble said completely seriously
>Do you seriously think she wanted to spend even a second longer at the company?
Yup

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>>73135632
>Because they had access to your accounts, you dumb bitch
That doesn't show what was and wasn't sent tho, It just shows what they have and why would they waste their time sifting through the accounts of a terminated employee and make assumptions as to what was and wasn't sent regarding projects they supposedly had no involvement in?
>Because they worked with you and had company information because of it.
And if that was SO IMPORTANT why would they trust the "useless livers" to do something like that when it's literally the most important job management is supposed to have

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>>73108387
lmao anyone giving this stupid faggot money should legit be hanged

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>>73136075
Because everybody who's ever worked with her says that she pays them on time and is extremely easy to work with, yet they constantly say how nijisanji fucking sucks to work with and is so disorganized they fucking lose the organs' trophies without compensating them or god forbid ordering a replacement.

The rest of your post is just hilarious, though.

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>>73117316
One thing I learned from the niji thread is that this guy also gets most of his money from streamlabs instead of supers since many of his fans know about the superchat cuts and want him to get more money so they send the bulk as donos

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>>73136075
The burden of proof is on you for accusing selen of fucking up retard, The artists say it was niji's fault, Niji said it was selen's fault, YOU are saying the artists are wrong, Prove them wrong

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>>73135769
>How does that explain the constant typos and incorrect information in the NDAs that were sent to artists?
Prove that random retard online even got contracts. I'm pretty sure it was cosplayer saying they got her name wrong. Why the fuck would a Vtuber ever commission a cosplayer? LMAO
>>73136035
>Selen was always extremely transparent and open to communicate.
Ghosted artists and couldn't even tell her friend RPR she wasn't dead

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>>73117334
Luca's bday will earn even more, and there's Vox's birthday too which will be the true gauge of if his core fanbase has really left him.

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>>73136387
>EVERYONE SAYING ANYTHING ANTI NIJI IS A LIAR REEEE REEEE REEEE REEEE REEEE
I accept your concession, Prove she was lying

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>>73136387
>Ghosted artists and couldn't even tell her friend RPR she wasn't dead
She never ghosted artists and RPR didn't have her RM account, She was kinda busy.. y'know... not dying from her two suicide attempts and negotiating her exit from the company?

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Why do nijisisters constantly make up bullshit that neither doki OR nijisanji themselves have fucking said?

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>>73136292
big if true. It'd explain the insane discrepancy. Is there any record of that?

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>>73136223
>Because everybody who's ever worked with her says that she pays them on time and is extremely easy to work with
>>73132419
Imagine not being able to read
>>73136303
>Third parties with an interest in bandwagoning say it's Niji's fault and provide 0 evidence that they know what they're talking about
>Nijisanji members say the opposite even before drama and they actually work there

You're saying it's Niji's fault. So prove it. Prove that they were supposed to pay people and that they were supposed to send NDAs to people the members commission for their own projects

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>>73135206
Oh I was right, he did better on his first bday

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>>73136548
>She never ghosted artists
She did
>RPR didn't have her RM account, She was kinda busy.. y'know... not dying from her two suicide attempts and negotiating her exit from the company?
She was playing apex all month. Wouldn't have killed her to tell RPR she was breathing

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>>73136453
maybe, but also maybe not. Sonny's bday streams even blow the fuck out of Luca's. Luca splits his birthday streams up into two and last year's both streams still lost to Sonny's if we go by raw superchat numbers.

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>>73136670
A few of the boys' paypigs do that. I was going through the niji thread archive and Sonny got $5k from a streamlabs from one person for a karaoke. Luca's is the most insane one though, at one point he received more than $20k from a paypig called Annie. Don't know if that person still supports him, but that was just from one person, not counting all the others.

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>>73136469
>The world actually ended yesterday and this is a reset. Prove I'm lying
It's that easy. It's completely retarded that a cosplayer gets hired by a Vtuber to do a photoshoot. Might as well as said it was the president himself

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>>73136671
Did you not read the multiple breakdowns debunking >>73132419

Here they are >>73132903 >>73134115

>Third parties with an interest in bandwagoning say it's Niji's fault and provide 0 evidence that they know what they're talking about
What's with the persecution fetish you nijifaggots have?, Where was this "bandwagonng" when zaion was terminated?, If it's truly without any fucking evidence why didn't they do it before???
>Nijisanji members say the opposite even before drama and they actually work there
Provide, Fucking, Proof, You, Shit, Eating, Retard
You're saying it's selen's fault, So prove it, Prove that she was supposed to send NDAs to people that nijisanji was directly responsible for making and signing

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>>73137030
>It's completely retarded for a vtuber to commission an artist for a project because... WELL IT JUST IS OKAY?

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>>73136707
It's close enough to be negligible(tm).
>>73136671
>selen paid me despite the shaky communication because nijisanji was uncooperative.
>sisters somehow take this as selen was in the wrong here
>nijisanji claims that nijisanji did absolutely nothing wrong, and the only people who agree with them are people employed by nijisanji
Nijisanji needs to prove they were in the right. They already failed to do that three times (four if you count zaion).
Nobody's going to believe their lies anymore unless they have video footage of Selen raping Vox on camera with her massive drock.
>>73136823
He didn't have access to her personal accounts. He literally said this himself. That's why he was fuming. Him and iPN had no need for her personal accounts as all contact was done through Discord.

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>>73137039
>Debunking
Retards making shit up isn't debunking. I don't think you know what that word means. It means evidence would be provided and there isn't any
>Prove that she was supposed to send NDAs
Prove that Nijisanji was. Do you not have any?

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>>73137419
...The artist themselves said the NDAs they received from nijisanji were wrong. Are you okay?

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>>73137419
>Prove that nijisanji was
The artists got sent them after selen was terminated
They were supposed to sign them
It is literally the job of managers to MANAGE shit

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>>73137216
>The random people online that don't know how Niji works aren't full of shit but the people who worked for them are because they're brainwashed!

So you have no evidence. As per usual

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>>73137419
>Retards making shit up isn't debunking.
They aren't making shit up, They are literally spoonfeeding you inbred faggots by breaking down what the artist is saying in the god damn message you keep throwing around

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>>73137634
Provide evidence of nijisanji livers saying they are fully and utterly responsible for making and signing and distributing NDAs, You just keep saying they did, But we haven't fucking seen the evidence of them saying it yet

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>>73137583
What artist? It was cosplayer obviously lying and grifting. In what world would a Vtuber commission a cosplayer to cosplay?
>>73137626
We've been through this, SEAmonkey. That's not evidence since all jobs have someone do the work left behind after someone gets fired

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>>73137634
More that the people who want Nijisanji to keep paying them money don't want to say mean things about the people paying their rent. Every single person who's left the company says they're fucking awful. The organs and Nijisanji are not impartial, and they are the only people on the planet saying that they're in the right (without proof, no less.) Every attempt they've made to explain themselves has met serious criticism and backlash on how fucking out of touch, manipulative, and greedy they are.

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>>73137826
>What artist? It was cosplayer obviously lying and grifting
Proof they were lying next thread???
>That's not evidence since all jobs have someone do the work left behind after someone gets fired
PROVE THE WORK LEFT BEHIND WASN'T DONE

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>73137826
Watch streams. You clearly don't know anything about Selen and her deep involvement with her community.

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>>73137826
How would they know what work was and wasn't fucking done?, Why are you so desperate to accuse the ONLY niji talent worth a damn of being lazy or not doing her job when that's literally ALL she fucking does and has been doing since becoming an indie

[Anonymous No.]

I think you should all fuck each other

[Anonymous No.]

So now nijisisters are accusing selen of being ESL and fucking up making and sending NDAs based on literally no evidence because they are BTFO'd SO god damn hard they are literally incapable of seeing reason

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Not only that, they're calling Selen of all people incompetent and lazy. While defending Luca and Sonny. Laughable.

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>>73136670
Bearing in mind that most of his paypigs use streamlabs and considering his fanbase, he's likely cleared at least $10k so far this month on streamlabs

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>>73138353
woah cool. LuxNoc is real. Anyone else in that group who primarily earns through streamlabs? I know SEA has issues with youtube superchats so I'm sure there are others.

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>>73137731
>They're making sure that their schizo interpretation of this artists message which it's revealed Nijisanji wasn't lying actually says the opposite.
Sure,kid
>>73137805
https://www.youtube.com/live/FhyXoyNY8jY?si=64KtbPekFZy5BkdI
1 hour and 37 minutes in

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>>73138447
Back in LuxNoc's heyday, Luca definitely did. Nowadays though, it seems like only Sonny does. I'll be monitoring Luca's for his birthday, but I don't think he'll be getting as much as he did in the past what with NijiEN's decline and all the drama surrounding him personally.

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>>73139045
>partially on the livers to make sure staff isn't fucking it up
holy shit you're dense.

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>>73137856
So you have no evidence they're lying and they're the most reliable source of information because they work there and see the paperwork. I accept your concession
>>73137937
Prove the random person online was telling the truth. Aia already said that livers are responsible partially for the paperwork, it's already confirmed

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>>73139330
>Get BTFO'd, run interference and stuff words in people's mouths
Dramafag flowchart

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>>73139529
Do you not understand what the word PARTIALLY means????

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>>73139790
They still think the chinese artist is shaming Selen. Of course they don't know what it means.

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>>73108387
that's a lot for a tf2 guy

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>>73139790
Stop coping. I never said members did all the paperwork. The artist was just exposed for not knowing what the fuck they were talking about in saying it was Niji's fault she didn't get papers when the livers are in control of deadlines and paperwork and legal shit . Accept reality or seethe because your argument is already moving from "Nijisanji is responsible for NDAs" to "They're kind of responsible"

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>>73140084
Hey if they were supposed to get papers from Selen... Why did they make a point of saying that Selen paid out of pocket to cover Nijisanji's fuckup?

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>>73139045
(Me)

She also talks about needing permission from a member for one of her projects a minute later. Funny how so many rrats die if you actually watch streams

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>>73140614
The artist literally never said that. She only said Selen was late in paying. You must be a tourist if you don't know corpo Vtubers pay for their own projects out of pocket especially when it's already confirmed Luca had a PayPal with his Niji name on it

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Yeah, which she already had. Hence the project being complete. We've been over this.

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>>73140912
She had permission from members including ones who left? Want to prove that?

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>sisters who've never had a corpo job desperately writing fanfiction to explain how their incompetent, useless company was unable to provide perms for a project known a year and a half in advance.

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>>73141113
But it wasn't about external perms, it was internal which makes it worse. They pulled it because they had to check if they could use their own IP kek

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>>73141113
>Commie copes about people not immediately hating corporations
>Commie is too afraid to respond
>Commie ignores that the employee didn't send the video to be checked up until last second
>Commie says the project was known for a year and a half but that'd be impossible because Mysta and Nina hadn't even graduated yet

How can one person be so wrong