/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why was her debut so much smaller than Doki's. Whilst they were in Niji Pomu was like 75% of Selen not 25%. Is leaving on good terms really that much of a debuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
timing. she waited too long

[Anonymous No.]

Mint's return was bigger than Pomu's debut.

[Anonymous No.]

The roach ruined any hype she could have had with a solo redebut

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
she was luca's cocksleeve

[Anonymous No.]

No sob stories about attempting suicide (twice!!) to buff her like dramabird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043962
we're not talking about your mom now anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
her model is really ugly. so is dokis but mint is on another level.

[Anonymous No.]

Her initial CCV may have been lower but their average CCV will be dead even like it was in Nijisanji. I am calling it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044159
Bad opinion

[Anonymous No.]

No drama buff. End of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044195
she'll probably have more, poopiebird is just annoying and rude and you can tell how obsessed she is with staying relevant, she plays a different game every stream now for the first time buff, today's apex event only getting 3k viewers must have pissed her off too so she instantly set up a no archive karaoke stream for later

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>>73043912
Agree to a degree but I also think pomu got really fucked up in the head with the nijiprogramming and basically wasn't going to return at all without the training wheels so i dont really put that on matara.
It is what it is you know.

[Anonymous No.]

man, sisters do not take the very existence of Mint lightly, do they?
have fun screeching to each other autistically and don't forget:
>Enna is a stupid bitch
>you are the reason why everyone hates Kurosanji
>Mint is healing because she got rid of you - all her fans are still with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044441
>poopiebird
You need to be over 18 to post on this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044525
shitbird

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
She's not a #fag

/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044441
>poopiebird
You’re either 12 or Enna

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044672
if he's 12, he should better avoid Enna at all costs

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044672
ok rpr

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Based retard GOD

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>>73044441
yeah man I bet she must be seething about her 3am stream getting less viewers than usual for unexplained reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044815
so why is she playing a different game every stream? looks like she's scared that her viewers would drop off (they already are) if she just streamted a full playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044513
Yeah, it's clear that whatever happened in Niji completely fucked up her psyche. Who knows if she'd actually ever return if it weren't for Matara giving her support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Selen was bigger than pomu. not sure what you are talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044996
They were dead even when they collabed and had multiple POVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>73044441
>The karaoke was planned for 2 weeks
Isn't funny that you say you are 18+ but these shitpost always coincide when kids wake up or school ends in SEA?
I hope when you grew up the regret of these moments don't make you feel like shit.

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>>73045162
No, they weren't.

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>>73044899
Because games like "the murder of sonic the hedgehog" and "sonic dreams collection" don't give enough materials for 2 streams you dunce. She's done repeat streams for games that were longer like arkham asylum (which she's already said she's going to continue the series) or are multiplayer like apex. You're just a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044796
man I'm loving the new numbermonkeys images, they make me wanna be a #ape so bad. They're just so happy and enlightened, the old ones just made them look crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044159
The only thing that bothers me is that the cloth triangle on her head blends too much with her white hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73045204
They were
https://vrabi.net/video/0Ffw7-zvA38
https://vrabi.net/video/25yl5fC7MDs
4.1k vs 4k

https://vrabi.net/video/jXsYitRvLy0
https://vrabi.net/video/P3UEN_5aZcI
1.8k vs 1.9k

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
no drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>73046307
The images don't convey the smell sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73046664
you're on 4chan buddy. If computers transmitted smell this board would make asmongold seem clean.

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty easy to understand
- She graduated on her terms.
- No drama story, She didn't fuel the drama.
- She was active on Twitter and made some space
- The return stream is actually the third stream.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't even know she came back...

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
My reasons for not watching her were: she's part of the clique and she's a simp for Luca.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704

> Small debut
> Still over 76 finnanas

good try Nijinigger, she did a quiet redebut and it was not even a hyped planned first stream
and yet she outperformed all of NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704

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>>73043704
doki was streaming to 2-3k last night why did she fall off so hard?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>73052113
Why use the Polish flag?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>73044523
As if mint isn’t still friends with everyone in Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044899
>so why is she playing a different game every stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044523
>>you are the reason why everyone hates Kurosanji
No, I think the reason everyone hates Niji is because of how they treat their talents, not fandom warring that only exists on /vt/ and doxsite

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
meh. an indie talent can make a living on 1k ccv. If she gets the same numbers as pomu she'll make it well enough since niji isn't stealing half of her earnings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044523
>sisters sisters sisters

So why isn't Mint following Doki yet? Why is Maia her mod? Why is she still talking about people in "the clique" and supported by "the clique" if she's totally on Doki's side?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044996
ur right selen really needs to lose some weight that fat fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
None cares about Luca's 2nd plate

[Anonymous No.]

>>73046475
Isn't that on purpose? Like Jotaro's hair/hat

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
>ALL OUT WAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>73047249
>She graduated on her terms
Selen wanted to do that, But they didn't let her
>No drama story
That nijisanji caused
>She didn't fuel the drama
Neither did selen
>She was active on Twitter and made some spaces
So did selen, Dearsqn also had major freakouts and breakdowns over her time in niji but i guess that we can ignore as "fueling drama" when it doesn't tank niji's stock price

[Anonymous No.]

>>73051954
>2 AM stream time
>Apex with fleshie homos
>Half of the time she wasn't even playing
>Still a higher CCV than anybody in nijisanji has gotten in a month
Watch her karaoke be a 5view tonight while you cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>73055055
Then the ex-Nijis should have no issue interacting with her, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73055125
You'd have a point of doki was trying to interact with them and she was being ignored like sayu, It's clear that DOKI is the one ignoring them, She is in her own world and doesn't want to look back, She has said multiple times a large part of what she wants to do is "Meet new friends and try new things", She doesn't need to be a part of the Ex Niji pity party like matara kuro quinn and mint are, She is flying solo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044523
ah yes the sister hate mint so much look how much they are hating or her yes

[Anonymous No.]

she will be 3view streamer soon, 500-800 range maybe or slightly higher. the brand made her famous, without the brand she is just another face in a bottomless indie sea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73056485
Shut up nijicuck, The vtubers are what make the BRAND famous, She will be at her same level if not higher like doki is, The only livers that get fucked as Ex-Niji are males because the fujos have that brand loyalty, Hololites like selen and pomu get a buff from holochads who WOULD have watched them if they just weren't in niji, and now they are indie so they get to keep all the money for themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>73056623
Holy falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043912
This desu, I don't have anything against Matara but she's not my cup of tea. Not really interested in participating in their buddy buddy adventure

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044001
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>73056764
nta but
>who WOULD have watched them if they just weren't in niji
is absolutely true. I don't watch corpo on principle even if I think they're interesting but now that she's indie I'll be watching mint

[Anonymous No.]

>>73059637
>is absolutely true
I mean, you didn't watch Mint when she was an indie either. Like it or not corpos get you more exposure. Hardly anyone knew she existed before Niji. Same shit for Holos, the only one that had any posts on this board before Advent debuted were Fuwamoco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
she was retarded enough to do two 2 streams with matawhore before her own debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>73060640
Niji used to give you exposure, but even before Selen they had their latest gen member doing worse than her indie PL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
As a fan of both I watched doki's and didn't mint's because I don't trust mint.
I was stung badly by elira's reveal and the only sign was all her close friends being megacunts.
Mint keeps very shir company and has completely avoided doki, seems pretty obvious she's not to be trusted. If anything she might be the member the leaker said was hoing around behind the scenes to help their pr and fixed ethyria ip with their meeting with kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73060791
It's mostly because the branch has fallen off really hard in terms of content. Niji no longer represents quality, it's just a friend group who stream for income whenever they run out of vacation funds.
>inb4 hurdur Niji never represented quality
Lazulight was probably the peak of EN vtubing and you cannot convince me otherwise. Their first few months were absolutely magical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73060640
I didn't because I wasn't watching vtubers back then... I also had a different entry point to them than most others, an irl friend does L2D models and I would watch her stream as she made them. she's friends with buffpup, and I worked outwards from her. I know most people come in through corpo clips but I didn't like the corpo setup (don't own your IP) so that entire group is a mystery to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
she has autism and is not a turbonumberfag, it's not hard to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
I would say it's the opposite, if anything. When your exit from the company comes with the drama and shit flinging that was involved to the point that normie streamers are giving their two cents, that's only gonna be a buff. Compare that to someone who left on good terms and with relatively no fuss involved and kept her head down for three months before dipping her toes back in the water. I don't think it's all that deep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73061710
It really makes no difference, most streamers stabilize back to where they belong after debut/redebut buff. Doki is now back to a 3-6k streamer and Mint will probably be a 2-4k streamer when she streams more. This is where they want to be since it guarantees a stable income without all the unwanted attention of dramafags.
The only way to really benefit from a big drama is to create a grift around the drama, like a slow drip feed of drama, or a crowdfunding campaign to promise to reveal more details at a later date. Basically be like Sayu.

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>>73055537
>sisters can't bring themselves to hate Mint
>/mint/ general is full of dragoons happily bonding with fantomos
>total Mint world peace
I kneel. She really must've been holding the branch together.

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>>73044525
>>73044672
Because sister is such a dignified, mature insult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
bad luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>73065454
Between trying (and failing btw) to getting drama bird to stick and ever other variation of shit bird we expect you to have give up or become clever >Muh Dignified Mature Insult
lol lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73065454
broadly the only people still defending niji are fujos, that's why I use sister as a femanon when talking to them

[Anonymous No.]

>muh numbers
SEAfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73070839
post your tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Selen said fuck you to Nijisanji. More can relate to that. She has proven to have good character.
Mint is still suffering from PTSD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73070839
I doubt anyone except fujoshi are still clinging on to Niji.

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>>73044001
100% this. Mint, Sayu, Matara etc were normal, rational professionals. They left, waited a bit, went on with life, then started up again. They didn't sperg tf out like a giant child that didn't get her way and throw one of the biggest pity-bait tantrums in history, scamming and grifting countless bleeding heart morons. I have infinite respect for them, and infinite hatred for Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Real answer: She didn't have a drama buff like Doki and came back to vtubing months after she graduated, compared to Doki who returned a few days after she graduated.

[Anonymous No.]

She needed to suicidebait

[Anonymous No.]

>says she will go back to college
>goes back to streaming
So that was a lie huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074115
>>says she will go back to college
She never said that

[Anonymous No.]

>>73073675
Ah yes just to forget pomu's meltdown membership stream right

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074578
That was 6 months prior to graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074578
QRD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074781
when she cried about the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that niji denied

[Anonymous No.]

Is she always so boring? She was much more energetic as Pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074844
She's been sick the past week, she was having a coughing fit during karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074924
Why the fuck come back when you're sick and make a shitty first impression?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074578
That was hardly in the same league. She vented for like 2 minutes about being bummed out, she didn't pretend to kill herself twice and screech from the rooftops for months trying every pity tactic in the book. Oh I'm so broke, oh I'm so sad, Oh I'm gonna off myself, oh I'm such a good person look at me doing charity work, oh I sure love hololive, watch me stream holo games and gush about holo girls, on and on and on

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075051
bad first impression on who? the only ones watching are the people that already watched her

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075051
She graduated on 4/4/2021 and returned on 4/4/2024

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075360
That's only true because Maid is a retard and can't hype. Doki got 1.4 views on her re-debut and is doing better numbers as an indie than when she was in Niji.

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>>73075293
Gotta evade that once in a lifetime thing is what made her graduate in the first place eh.
Seething much about doki's success
You're brains surely are dead

If you're even seething about charity work then you're a big chungus faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075495
>Doki got 1.4 views on her re-debut
Doki's not even a 2 view...

[Anonymous No.]

I hate that Pomu larps as a huge fan of MGS. Bitch you didn't know shit about MGS until like last year, and you're a woman so you'll never get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075679
1.4 mil*

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>>73043704
You ever wonder if vtubering as a whole would be better if people watched who they wanted to watch, instead of recreating native american tribal wars with anime girl streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075708
You sound intimidated

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075869
I'm a veteran and have killed men and watch my brothers die, this bitch will NEVER understand what being a soldier is like

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075708
Fans like seeing their favorite streamer first get into a series they like
Wow what a surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075523
shilling charity stuff to stay relevant to xitter normies is bottom of the barrel shit and you know it. And there is zero proof that some sponsorship or whatever 6 months ago had any bearing on her graduation, just more rrat speculation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73076003
And yet here you are, on a mongolian basket weaving forum, crying about an anime girl streamer on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>73076003
You've never been down range retard, unless you count sitting in a FOB for six months on guard duty as "killing and watching my brothers die". If you actually did you'd know nobody outside of who deployed with you gives any kind of fuck.
Ive seen some pathetic things on vt, but LARPing with stolen valor is a new low.
t. two tours in afghanistan

[Anonymous No.]

>>73076249
The jewermcain government pays me a nice pension as thanks for all the fighting I did for ZOG so it's my G-d given right to shitpost.
You go to bed under the jewmerican world dominance that I helped to enforce, I'd appreciate a thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044899
Yeah, that's how content creation works. People don't generally watch part 87 of your minecraft playthrough. You can notice the drop off even from part 1 to part 2 to part 3+ on any streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73076412
1v1 me in Ukraine nerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>73060640
Shiori had posts on here before Advent

[Anonymous No.]

>>73076689
https://youtu.be/dna792reuvI?si=6cwayJ78tAKmxjUn

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043912
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>73046513
surprising. I always thought pomu was bigger than selen and that she was a distant #2 or #3 after her and Nina. Pomu was always far more involved with niji than Selen, who just hung out in her own little corner organizing events and assets and shit for the rest to use.

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>>73055055
selen was active on twitter for like... a week or two. After that she was actually dead silent aside from her fucking steam names. I don't know if she was doing it on purpose, but her randomly changing steam name changes to weird youtube videos and updates was probably the only thing keeping us sane in January.

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>>73077224
Selen had like 200k more subs at both their peaks
Nina was only "bigger" during Luxiem's heyday because of all the sisters who'd tune in to her streams to hear her yap about their boys... before she became the sisters' public enemy #1

[Anonymous No.]

>>73056623
I flat out gave up on her in 2022 after she started getting beaten down so much by management and told myself I'd come back whenever she got out of the company. I sure as fuck wasn't expecting that exit, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73073675
>sayu
>normal
she was an emotional wreck from all the harassment and doxx threats on her home.
Her "drama buff" lasted all of a single stream since it took her so long to start over and get back to streaming (several months), and when she did, she was still a sad sack desperately trying to figure herself out again and ended up even lower than she was before joining Niji. She had to work hard for months to get herself back up to the point where she could even take advantage of people taking her seriously again.
For fuck's sake, she streamed for over 1000 active hours in just november and december alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075764
It's also not monetized because someone on the twitch side played a clip of freebird for like 5 seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

shes ours its too late

[Anonymous No.]

>>73046475

For me it's the eyes. I've never been much for the droopy/aloof-type eye shape. But I've been told I have shit taste and her personality makes up for it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73077996
>ended up even lower than she was before joining Niji
her number better than most nijiEN, thats not even counting that she is full indie, she got sponsored even from genshin, shes going with double stream so theres 2 from twitch and youtube with very consistent number for LONG STREAM like 10-20 hours,even more collab with big twitch name like filian boost her even more,hell shes well known more than most nijiEN now,idk what is the world you are living sister lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
A little bit of a lot of things.
Selen:
-Was just out of the hospital after an attempt and people wanted and update on her well being
-The biggest drama buff in history, extending even past the vtubing scene, so it got a significant new viewership
-People were craving for a scoop on niji, like people were HUNGRY for any info on how bad Niji is
-People were awaiting for NijiEN's reaction to her redebut

Pomu:
-She left quietly, people talked about the missed opotunity but that wasn't in the graduation itself
-She waited very long to come back which actively discouraged the drama buff and basically only her previous audience came back.
-Matara may have killed some hype, but arguably advertised her actual comeback

[Anonymous No.]

>>73077996
thats my point, if anyone deserved to be a dramafag pitybaiter it was her, but she didnt do it like that. Bitching about unfair things is a far cry from actual premeditated grifting. Like I said, I have a lot of respect for Sayu for not taking the easy path of the scam artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043912
ppl realise that matara are part of the elira bully clique which is why shes avoiding doki and sayu and choose to shill quinn instead, now mint are close to her,shilled by her while also avoiding both sayu and doki prove it even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73077996
Why do Sayu's fans always try to portray her as the most pitiful creature in existence? She got fired from a job for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73079386
>Matara ignores Sayu
>"AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEE SHE'S A BULLY!"
If Sayu was a "victim of the bully clique", why is she trying to reconnect with Matara, who you say is "part of the bully clique"?

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>>73079237
chill. I'm talking about after she was terminated. She worked hard to get to this point. It was really rough back then. It was crazy watching her grow out of it. She's come so far. She's like a tomagotchi but she with asmr and rude jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Making pointess comparisons between exNijis isn't gonna stop the yacht from sinking, Nijisisturd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043912
I hate that filthy grifter roach so much that it's unreal. Screw that whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73079791
I watching her stream for the first time rn and she's already mentioned being insecure and jealous of people watching other streamers several times. I can definitely see her appealing to gfe saviorfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044159
Doki and Mint's model are way better than Henya and Matara's models.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Debut numbers correlate with dick size. Can't beat the drock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73079405
even her fans agree she should've likely been fired.
The problem is how she was fired and the subsequent harassment and pariah status as a result of being unperson'd by the second biggest vtubing company and having her personal information spread all around twitter and the doxxsite for sisters to beat her over the head with.
It was really, really fucking bad.
>>73079760
She's fucking stupid honest with people and naive in her own ways. She opens up to people almost immediately, and it seems like she really attached herself to Nina both during her time at Niji and after the termination. After the little subathon breakdown though, Matara ghosted Sayu completely. Even sayu's fans (mostly) don't blame matara for it, but it still seems petty for Matara to hold it against her for so long with the little information that's actually public about it, considering how much she's embraced how shit her time at "Hollywood" was these days.
Sayu gave up though recently after Quinn started getting shilled by Matara, as Sayu seriously can't exist in the same circles as him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73060883
That's really weird since Mint was following Doki on twitter at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080074
nah. They're both old and crusty and need serious updates. Doki's working on it but I don't know what's going on with Mint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080197
She cleared her follows when she unlocked and has slowly been following people since. She hasn't followed Doki at any point since then. (There was a fake edited screenshot posted here though.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080231
What's more concerning is Doki unfollowing Mint... It really is over for pomulen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080382
Did Doki ever follow Mint in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080159
I don't think people necessarily agreed to that premise as much as agreeing the charges do make some sort of sense within Kurosanji's rules system applied to the letter. The problem is that favoritism basically means everyone else can get away with worse and the punishments are dealt out on a unfair basis and the termination notice was written with such impunity that it did actually cause damage to the company's reputation. And that didn't deter them from eventually committing an even worse termination with Selen later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080440
I don't know...

[Anonymous No.]

>>73079760
>If Sayu was a "victim of the bully clique", why is she trying to reconnect with Matara, who you say is "part of the bully clique"?
do your fuckng reps,you cant even watch a clip? i know its impossible to ask you to actually watch stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074115
What do you she was doing in Japan all this time, you fucking retard?
>>73074578
Not the Nijisister who you replied to, but I wouldn't call that a "meltdown". Also, that Nijisister is full of shit since she intetionally left out important context just to shit on Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080551
Answer the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080440
one thing for sure,they havent interacted yet,if a small thing as interaction on twitter is impossible is basically a statement,knowing thats how nijisister will attack and label as "traitor" for who support doki and sayu,so look like mint are part of the clique after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080159
>but it still seems petty for Matara to hold it against her for so long
No it doesn't. Why is it Matara's responsibility to reply to Sayu's begging? If she doesn't wanna be her friend, she doesn't wanna be her friend. Let the woman live her fucking life. You're not entitled to someone acknowledging you just because you had it hard. Even if Sayu apologized for all she's done to Matara, she's STILL not entitled to a response or forgiveness.
Matara has been incredibly professional about her whole stint in Nijisanji and wanting to move forward with her life and not disparage anyone. She works really hard to not traumadump in her streams and focus on making people smile. It's Sayu's fans who keep bringing this shit up in every single Mint/Doki thread as if no one's allowed to move forward unless it's on Sayu's terms. This is seeming a lot like an attempt at bullying ex-Nijis for not wanting to befriend Sayu desu. It's the same shit her fans accuse people of doing to her, and I think everyone is getting tired of it.

Respectfully anon, Sayu and her community need to move on from an event that happened in January 2023. She needs to form new friendships and stop crying over Matara not wanting to talk to her. She needs to stop pitybaiting over being "betrayed" every time she needs to pay rent. It's getting tiring. Phase Connect supposedly offered her a position in their corp with funding and support and a large friend group and she rejected all of that to continue being a sad girl apparently. If you really care about her you should push your oshi to stop acting like a child that got rejected from the popular kids table instead of enabling her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080636
>Answer the question
what question? i told you to actually do your fuckng rep and WATCH,this is /vt/ not your fuckng reddit,you think ppl will spoonfed you? specially for some "hot drama" that clipped to hell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080800
If it's already been clipped, then there's no harm in answering the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73078054
Fuck off, vshojo orbiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080724
After seeing what Nijisisters did to Sayu, do you blame Mint for not wanting to get on their bad side?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080748
She has been moving on. She streams for 10-15 hours every day, but the only thing you ever hear about /here/ is when she answers a question about her last job for 2 minutes every other week.

She's not even pitybaiting, she's just far, far too honest and attentive to the chat to the point of answering random questions she shouldn't have. There's no malice or pity begging, but that doesn't stop the sisters from continuing to harassing her because the big N told them to. It's all been defensive on her end for over an entire year, and you'd know that if you ever gave her even 5 minutes of your time.

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>>73080800
Why don't you just post the clip?

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>>73080748
but shill quinn so hard,which is part of the clique and also shit on sayu before? use your brain atleast once nijinigger,when you finally learn to use your brain and not get fucked again and again because these "vtuber" is not really a good people as you think they are?

just in case its still too hard for you to process it then fine, matara and kuro are part of the clique,their connection are still tight with elira clique, then going to vshojo is actually making a "bridge" for the clique to safely jump or connected, that is fuckng why there is only 2 EX NIJI that is avoided there,guess who? SAYU AND DOKI, is it really that fuckng hard to process that? if you want to keep in denial about it,go ahead,you will learn the hard way again.

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>>73080829
>"no,you must explain it to me,i dont want to look for it"
NO.

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>>73080748
That image is cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73081099
Post clip or it never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73081099
If you can't provide proof, then it didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73074115
>>73080620
She never said it was college. She was in Japan doing a 3-month japanese language course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73081147
>>73081163
"there is no harrasment in nijisanji" le retard de vox akuma
not gonna spoonfeed you anon

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>>73081250
>deflecting to Nijisanji
So you have no proof, got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73081242
She said something along the lines of going back to school. Obviously she was referring to the language course.

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>>73081250
What does that have to do with Sayu and Matara's cold war?

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>>73081045
Eh, Matara still was important to Sayu up until the Quinn thing. She at least deluded herself into thinking that Matara was somebody worth attempting to reconcile with. Thank god that's over with. Another large hurdle cleared for her. (I hope.)
>>73081351
Go find it yourself. It's all you drama starved whores ever clip of her, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT: Sayufags still crying and with a severe case of "ME ME ME"
Just like their oshi huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>73053811
I miss her bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>73081608
at least people are actually watching her, unlike the branch that spurned her. Sayu actually recovered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73078908
Droopy eyes work best on milfy characters. Mint is not a milf. Therefore droopy eyes make her look like she's permanently high, which fanartists noticed instantly and have been taking advantage of.

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>>73081544
>Go find it yourself. It's all you drama starved whores ever clip of her, after all.
All I see is a clip of Sayu apologizing to Matara (but not at Matara), and no clips about Matara bullying Sayu.
If Matara was the one bullying Sayu, why are there no clips of it?

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>>73043912
my dude if it wasn't for matara hyping her up she would never returned. You can see how strange she was at first but no she is a lot more open and chill

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>>73081703
I don't know where you got the idea of Matara bullying Sayu. They were friends up until Sayu talked about Matara's insecurities during the subathon. Matara ghosted her after that. Completely no contact. That's the only public knowledge on their relationship. Outside of this, you know about as much as I do.

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>>73081784
>I don't know where you got the idea of Matara bullying Sayu.
From this faggot who started the whole discussion >>73080551

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>>73081687
Mint would look terrible with sharp eye outlines, it wouldn't fit her personality at all. Rounded eyes generally give a sense of approachability and friendliness, which definitely goes well with her personality. Angular eye shapes like Mel has give an aura of more confidence (which goes well with her being more of a tomboy).

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>>73081901
Hell yeah I'll smoke to that

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>>73081854
oh, he's just uninformed. Nina/Matara didn't bully Sayu. It was a betrayal of trust as best we can figure, and it's understandable that she'd cut contact, even if it's disappointing as a Sayu fan. Her relationship with Sayu is absolutely not something I fault Matara for.

I fault her for Quinn, though.

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>>73081950
That was from her rig not being calibrated properly during the first streams, especially her mouth being huge for some reason, though the eye also looked huge and shifty all the time. She looks much better on her last stream now that she's actually adjusted it properly.

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I look forward to Mint joining VShojo after the podcast ends.

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>>73082020
I don't think the droopy eyes fit her. She's too cheery for them and they're usually reserved for comfy, calm characters.

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>>73043704
Because she didn't have one of the biggest controversies in vtuber history garner mass attention.

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>>73082020
Yeah, the podcast streams were done before she had a chance to touch vtube studio (after 3 years). Fortunately she was able to adjust the rigging and it looks much less wacky now

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>>73043704
I can't believe anyone would be retarded enough to actually ask this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043805
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044063
redditor

[Anonymous No.]

I look forward to what the next couple months is going to entail. I know that Mata doesn't want Mint to give up on streaming and is probably going to do everything she can to help integrate her into the vtubing scene and restore her confidence outside of the confines of a corpo where she had a permanent, established group of people around her at all times. And she has the other VShojo members to help her in that mission.

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>>73080231
>There was a fake edited screenshot posted here though
That was posted for April Fools no one took it seriously... right?

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>>73082534
nah I remember seeing it before April 1st. i'd say check the MD5 hash but it looks like you changed the hash of the image you attached because it's not showing in the archive at all

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>>73043704
It helps when your former employer decides to do a bit of free advertising for you.
Judging from the sub numbers, a lot of marginal subs probably don't even know she's back.
Also, Doki's style may appeal more to normies, so she benefits a bit from retention from that demographic.

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>>73043704
I'm still not convinced she's completely innocent in the Selen bullying due to her close ties with Elira.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73082685
I made this on April Fools. How could it have been posted before then? I'm literally the creator of this image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73082793
Then why isn't it showing up when I do an MD5 hash search of your image?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73082793
No you aren't and no you didn't, because it was posted back on February 14th
>>68983875

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>>73082890
>>/vt/image/WJI1Lvr0BhbU8g1V_KaZVA
>>72708004

>>73082985
That is a different image from mine. It seems there is a misunderstanding between us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73081978
Sayu was collabing with worse people like parrot and DN so I don't think Sayufags should be pointing fingers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083068
So you took the original image and changed the pfp in order to frame the entire thing as an april fools joke?

[Anonymous No.]

She didn't stage a publicity stunt

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>>73083185
I don't remember if I did that or if I edited a brand-new image myself. Sorry for the misunderstanding. But I did make it for April Fools I can tell you that much.

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>>73083171
Last I checked, even DN wasn't directly attacking people and piling on them for clout, or threatening them with their fucking address, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083315
Neither was Quinn

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>>73083171
Why don't you remind me of the time when she shilled DN for multiple weeks with several hour collabs, constantly hyping her up for months before a debut to try to funnel as many people to his channel?
Oh wait that was Matara.

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>>73083287 (me)
During April Fools everyone was posting fake edits and other stuff like that /here/. No one took anything seriously on that day.

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>>73083338
Clearly you're the only one who believes that, sister. Maybe if you want to shill him that much you should actually fucking watch him.

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>>73081978
I just frankly find it weird that Sayu latched onto Matara so much when the two never even interacted in Niji I don't think? They may have had like...one collab? idk.
Quinn is absolutely not as bad as Depressed Nousagi though. They're both trash but one is an existential doxxfag threat to vtubing while the other is just a wigger.
Actually even Doki refuses to acknowledge Sayu's existence despite Sayu begging her on Twitter. It's weird how even ex-Nijis who left the company on bad terms want nothing to do with Sayu. Leads me to believe they know something about her that we don't. Maybe the rumor that she's responsible for maliciously doxxing Kotoka to the sisters? idunno.

>>73083315
He was selling doxx of holo members behind a paywall. I feel like that should be the biggest crime you can commit in vtubing. Not only is he a doxxfag but he was trying to profit off of it too. The moment him and Sayu have a falling out he'll do it to her as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083185
Doki and Mint were following each other during their niji days. Mint wiped her following list before redebut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083171
>nijisister seething as usual
you love to see it

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>>73083444
>He was selling doxx of holo members behind a paywall. I feel like that should be the biggest crime you can commit in vtubing. Not only is he a doxxfag but he was trying to profit off of it too. The moment him and Sayu have a falling out he'll do it to her as well.
They were documentaries about their work history. It was in bad taste considering how insane people can be, but it's not the same as giving out someone's fucking address so they can be harassed to the point where they had to move residences. Maybe actually look at the shit you're criticizing.

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>>73083504
are you seriously defending selling doxx now? the guy was profiting off of people looking to harass holo girls.
you can't downplay that shit as "just" their work history you piece of shit.

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>>73083405
So where is the direct attack and doxxing of Sayu? Are you gonna post it next thread?

>>73083364
Does the magnitude of shilling matter when the people Sayu collabed with are objectively way worse scum? I don't think so. At most you could say both are dumb for collabing with these rejects so I don't see Sayufags having any kind of moral highground here.

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>>73083405
>4 hours
>barely any traction
>"pilling"
Why does this feel like a Streisand effect
>>73083444
I'm more surprised Matara didn't dropped Sayu after that, outside of the whole "breaking her trust", Sayu pretty much gave a platform for a guy that basically used her friend's private matters for profit (Kiara), that shit ain't worth it

[Anonymous No.]

I wish all doxxers and their apologists a day so nice they don't ever need or want a tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

God, the sisters are really working overtime tonight, huh? Are they that upset over Millie's outfit catastrophe?

Have fun trying to rewrite history. Maybe if you keep repeating it hard enough some newfag might actually believe you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083606
Trying too hard.

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>>73044441
>hur dur why do content creators do their job right
she cares about the views because that's her job if she didn't she would end up like one of those irrelevant dumb fucks who complain about how big corpos get all the views and they are 2 digit nobodies while playing some boring ass game 50th time in a row because if they enjoy it people will totally enjoy watching 1000000th episode of the same old shit
also the karaoke was pre planned and she even moved it back because it interfered with tourney so you are just retarded if you think that is related to that

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>>73043704
because doki is very good at driving attention so when she got a chance because of the drama she milked the views as much as possible and it paid off
also im pretty sure mint will get her viewers back it will just take a bit more time because her start is way less explosive so im sure some of her old viewers dont even know she is back yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044441
>no archive
so uh, what's this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXgD_IeXhh4
also 3k? Her bottom point during that 2 AM sweaty debuff nonsense was on par with luca's fucking PEAK that you're salivating over in the other thread.
Once again, I can't stress this enough, 2 AM japanese tournament with sweaty partners who barely held a conversation, and she fucking bluescreened and lost all of the team's momentum from it (the drastic drop around 20:00).
Yet unlike Millie she didn't lose everyone immediately and then fail to recover anybody because the dragoons find her entertaining enough to watch even when she's struggling to stay awake. And to rub it in, she even drastically outsold Luca's stream, too. What a pathetic waste of a company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73086488
Wait, vrabi tracks EN indies now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73086862
yeah but fuck if I know how to actually get there naturally. I don't even know how I found it the first time.
https://vrabi.net/general/channel/UComInW10MkHJs-_vi4rHQCQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>73086896
Ah, looks like Vrabi only tracks indies every 5 minutes. For corpo they track every ~15 seconds. I guess Vstats is still better for indies then (1 minute).
Anyway, good to know. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73087074
I didn't even know vstats had doki on it.
>doki's average is seriously higher than Luca's fucking peak.
holy fucking shit the absolute STATE of this company.

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>>73082728
She would've been implicated already if she was clearly in the clique even after graduating, she went to great lengths to not interact with any of her coworkers still at her prior employer or involved with drama at the company publicly. I think she is innocent but at worst, she is in the same camp as Rosemi at the moment with regards to how much benefits and interactions with the clique they possibly had to interact with and benefited from. The latter part of benefits and the fact that Pomu got less merch/deals compared to others and had her lifetime opportunity denied is why I think she is more innocent than not.
Just about the only thing that you can kind of dunk on her is keeping "bad company" aka having friends that the larger public doesn't like in some way or form but given her personality, I am not surprised that is the case. I personally for instance don't like Matara's "true colors" or personality after she left Nijisanji and think she has a lot to do with where Vshojo is headed in a direction I don't necessarily like even though she is highly accomplished in the field. I respect Mint's decision for being her friend especially when the way they interact with one another is of friends. Matara also is responsible for bringing Mint back and giving her up to date rigging so I have to begrudgingly hand it to her for doing that as a service to us Wisps to get our oshi back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075708
She has never hid when she got into MGS, stop being a gatekeeping faggot holy shit let people enjoy things you joyless fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Mint saying she'd concider taking a part time job in a grocery store instead of streaming shows that she's too brainwashed by corpo propaganda to be entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044771
rpr is based, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73052332
the Polish flag is white/red not red/white you imbecile

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>>73089464
It's a joke.

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>>73087544
She does sound like she's carrying a lot of damage from her time in "heaven", and I wouldn't be too surprised if she feels guilty over not doing anything about it even if it's not her fault.
She might also be too vulnerable to manipulation, perhaps.

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>>73043912
this for me.
Honestly I have a neutral or only slightly negative opinion of her but I fucking hate her model. I hate roaches, be they in cute anime girl form or not. Roaches are a disgusting, useless pest that I wish was exterminated forever.

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>>73080998
>but the only thing you ever hear about /here/ is when she answers a question about her last job for 2 minutes every other week.
QFT

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>>73081037
nta but you wouldn't watch it anyway.

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>>73081978
>It was a betrayal of trust
the roach is just a hypocrite, this is ALL that happened, a literal nothingburger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb30zpql0tw

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>>73083611
>So where is the direct attack and doxxing of Sayu? Are you gonna post it next thread?
you fucking retard.
>just post doxx to prove the doxx happened so you can get banned and I can continue pretending she wasn't doxxed!
kill yourself.

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>>73089554
>muh polandball
you ain't helping your case, buddy.

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>>73090356
I'm not your buddy pal.

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>>73055537
Now imagine if she ever collabs with Doki.

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>>73090199
yeah, I agree, but at the same time you can't force two people to get along. If the roach thinks it's a betrayal, then she doesn't need to forgive sayu. She's allowed to be unreasonable.
I still think she's a cunt for quinn, though and that pretty much soured any opinion I had for her. .

[Anonymous No.]

>>73090391
im not your buddy, friend

[Anonymous No.]

>arigatou arigatou chuuu~
that donation sound still runs rent free in my brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>73090490
Well, I'm not your friend guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083611
That Twitter thread explicitly mentioned Sayu/Zaion.
>P-proof?
I'm not you spoonfeeding slave.

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>>73090423
I'd agree with you, except the roach's whole "personality" seems to be revolving around preaching about forgiveness, then we have the nothingburger I linked which is touted as an unforgivable sin... only to then to turn around and shill Sayu's doxxer.
as a last addendum, the roach has no problem leaking actually sensitive stuff herself... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn9LU-u-rYM

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044159
I've never been attracted to Pomu in a sexual way, but this ghosty is making me go wild.

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>>73091113
Yeah, she's a hypocritical cunt. The mint thing just makes shit really confusing unless she's just taking advantage of pomu. I want to wholeheartedly believe I'm wrong, but I can't think of any world in which it's okay to shill quinn but completely fuck over sayu over something so minor. She was talking about her insecurities even as Nina, long before Sayu brought anything up.

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>>73089951
I was never into her before her redebut, something about niji's way of operating just always grated on me, I don't know what it is. I really hate roaches though, having a raoch vtuber model killed any interest in her I had. I actively block any of her clippers on youtube.

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>>73091705
>unless she's just taking advantage of pomu.
ding ding we have a winner
>but I can't think of any world in which it's okay to shill quinn but completely fuck over sayu over something so minor.
because it's NOT okay.
>She was talking about her insecurities even as Nina
I'm smelling NPD in the roach, it fits the patterns I've seen from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73073675
Ok Riku

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075293
Anon she was cut up not just in that membership stream. The entire time Nina left she was in a bad way about the treatment in Nijisanji. She took a long break from streaming in Japan at that time because of all this shit. Her concerns weren't just expressed in the membership stream which Niji btw went out of their way to private. Her Firewatch stream expressed that she had decided to change her situation.
You are also ignoring Sayu because you have no fucking clue or just don't care about how badly Niji treated her. The Niji circle extended their influence to alienate her in the vtubing community doing their best to shape her as a pariah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Waited too long, part of the clique, avoided talking to doki, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73044441
Wtf? She has always streamed a variety of games with apex being streams she personally likes

[Anonymous No.]

>>73075708
Yeah, she exaggerates it too much. Typical of a scammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Selen already one upped everyone for eternity by lying about attempting suicide twice nobody jumping off the Niji bus will get a quarter of the reaction she did

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
This is what happen when you are buddy with a desperate clique chaser and fight an all out war.

[Anonymous No.]

>sisters still think selen was lying
>sisters ignoring the fact that Nijisanji themselves confirmed her medical records and said not to take it lightly.

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>>73081778
She was fleshtubing dance videos with kiara pl, you retard. She was not -oh so- conflicted about the scene. She would have debuted either way.

The breadtubing roach attaching herself to pomu made me not want to watch. Not to mention the fact the roach has been actively hounding her, to the point pomu had to outright decline her invitation to karaoke with the vishojo people (including mysta and kyo), only to have the former passively kvetch on twitter about getting rejected.

Oh and about Sayu that's being mentioned ITT. The communist roach has no right to be buttfrustrated. The only thing that sayu mentioned was that Nina had told her about her plight during her time in nijisanjien. That's the major infraction that supposedly caused nina to ghost her.
The only reason she'd be upset over people learning that she had issues during her time in niji, would be because she is *in* the clique and doesn't want to defame the company that her clique-mates are in.

Also Sayu expressly stated that there is a certain someone in vshojo that does not want her there. And that regardless of her collabing with vshojo girls, she would never be able to join the corpo because of that certain someone.

Fill in the blanks.

That's just one guy's opinion.

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>>73043704
It was a few things. She waited too long, for one. Second I don't think she went and got a manager for herself like Doki did. Third she redebuted with Matara and got congratulatory tweets from NotReimu, and otherwise continues to be friendly with the clique, rather than making a true fresh start. Any anon who has been following the internal drama going on at Nijisanji and who knows who is in Elira's friend group is not going to watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73055537
They are larping. Sisters do not watch female chuubas.
No matter how much they astroturf each other to virtue-signal, their rentry proved no one there watches girls.

Just scroll back a couple thousand pages. It's pure seethe against the females 24/7. They hated Nina for leeching. They hated Pomu for unicorn-pandering and idol-pandering. Then they hated pomu for getting close to Luca. They hated Rosemi for the same reasons. They hated Reimu for leeching.

The only girls they have consistently liked (but still wouldn't watch) are Enna, Elira, and more recently Kunai and Aia. I don't mention finana on purpose, she is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73084125
Ok. Sea and brown and ESL underage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73093794
wait, is the reimu thing real?
grim if so. hopefully Mint ghosts them (ha) if she wants to get out of this unscathed.

>73094022

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>73094022

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>>73079386
She was literally the one that was left out of the side discord. 3/4 ethyria members were in the side discord.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73083504
Interesting how he felt these pay to view documentaries needed to included childhood videos from facebook (Gura) or recorded Sexual assualt and stalking vids (Kiara) to tell the "full story" of a vtuber, among other things that no one needs to know.

PL is one thing, Depressed Nousagi took some of the darkest vtuber moments found by deep divers on /vt/ and sold them for profit. He is literally the scummiest fucker in vtubing and sayu is a brain dead retard for defending him. KYS for even entertaining the idea of defending him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73079386
Matara is avoiding sajudas because that retard leaks everything she gets her hand on to get attention. She sold out trust for 30 pieces of silver from falsefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>73080748
You're such a retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
It's probably mostly this (>>73043805) but the fact that Matara is close to Kyo, who may have had a hand in Sayu's torment, and is close friends with 39Daph, who definitely had a hand in Selen's torment, post termination, puts a huge elephant in the room with Mint that will haunt her every performance until she tries to collab with Doki or at least mentions her name to clear the air - something neither performer has done thus far.

Despite all their heartwarming collabs together, in which Selen and Pomu appeaer to be having an absolute blast together and act as the closest of friends, it seems no one associated with Nijisanji is above suspicion of being part of the clique that helped drive Selen to suicide anymore, and that fact inevitably taints the air in which Mint performs.

Personally, I find it hard to believe, given all the moments they shared that were along these lines:
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk
But my belief doesn't remove the purple miasma suffocating the green ghost, that could be so easily blown away with one simple nod toward the other by either performer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73097073
>darkest vtuber moments found by deep divers on /vt/ and sold them for profit
NTA but, his excuse was that he wanted a gateway between the information and the general public, so he was "selling" it at the absolute lowest price allowed and likely didn't make much in the way of dosh out of it, but yes, it was both retarded and unnecessary. If he hadn't done that, and had simply placed the information in his usual twitter blogs, none of us would remember the incident today.

So I'm not sure how much of that was actual malice and how much of it was him simply being retarded, but it is a black mark on his record that even Sayu's apparent forgiveness cannot remove.

Though, yes, still not as black a mark as actually leaking a chuuba's physical address.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73101658
>But my belief doesn't remove the purple miasma suffocating the green ghost, that could be so easily blown away with one simple nod toward the other by either performer.
Mint is streaming that Shinkansen game on Tuesday. She may or may not acknowledge the Dokibird item in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
75% of Doki's fanbase is people who never watched Nijisanji but love an excuse to shit on them. Mint isn't actively trying to get into a legal battle with the black corpo, so no one really gives a shit about her one way or the other except the die-hard fans who followed her from Kurosanji. Doki has the tourism buff and the drama buff, but aside from that she's just an average e-sports e-girl with a generic model that will probably do ok as a medium 3-view a year from now. Mint has a more interesting design, but doesn't even have the FPS skills that Doki has to draw in an audience, so without the boost from drama she's just naturally going to have a lower ccv. Even the biggest indies who hardcore leech like Shoto never approach the numbers of a modestly successful cam streamer. Vtubing is just a niche at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73093644
I never watched matara or whatever her niggersanji name was, is she actually a fucking commie? A communist roach?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73093644
>The only thing that sayu mentioned was that Nina had told her about her plight during her time in nijisanjien. That's the major infraction that supposedly caused nina to ghost her.
>The only reason she'd be upset over people learning that she had issues during her time in niji, would be because she is *in* the clique
While agree that a friend airing the fact that the company you are working for is making you feel depressed and worthless, is the kind of "betrayal" that begs the question "with enemies like this, who needs friends?" - she did it while Nina was still in the company, drawing unwanted attention to herself from a company that is truly vicious about any of their talents doing anything that may even vaguely taint management's reputation, not to mention from the clique itself, assuming it exists. That "leak" was a real threat to her continued employment at the time. So I don't really blame her for being angry, nor if she didn't want to risk getting close enough to her to risk such confidence again... Though, still, a simple "I forgive you, but I can't trust you" or words to said effect, would be nice. The fact that she's being so friendly with Kyo suggests she's chosen a side and that isn't going to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73093882
The biggest donators for the Nijigrls outside of fans that have been following them since day 1 are girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>mint thread
>sayufags make it about themselves and their grifter oshi

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>>73102077
He should have been well aware from the fucking beginning. He's always been biased and stupid but that's no reason to say shit like "he might have simply been retarded". No, fuck that. You don't accidently make money from selling info you've known for years you aren't supposed to share, or even fucking sell like he owns the fucking rights to it or something. He can forever beg for forgiveness for all anyone should care.
This is 100% malicious. The only retarded part is thinking he can get away with it.

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>>73103020
Not that surprising when many of the Nijigirls only get $30 in superchats a stream nowadays

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>>73103264
Even before things were this grim for Niji it held true, the biggest donator for the male nijis also donated to the girls back then.

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>>73103158
it happens every single time
Sayu has the most dedicated fanbase of shills except when it comes to actually buying ads.

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>>73102426
She was a fleshtubing breadtuber, dude.
Unironically a full-blown communist political commentator.

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>>73102474
No, sayu made the comments when Nina graduated. Like a couple of days following the graduation irrc

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>>73073675
Where's the hat, Millie?

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>>73104388
I don't really know many vtuber pls, never felt a need to look them up
Guess I hate her outright now, then. Fucking commies.

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>>73104551
She was the female version of Hassan. That's all you need to know.
You can find her pl on nyfco if you are interested for whatever reason

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>>73102397
Doxxsitewatchers don't even know she is working on a new model. I wonder who it could be, can sisters handle another beoved Nijiartist turncoating?

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>>73081687
This is the opposite of a problem.

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>>73079405
Yeah, getting swatted and having mentally ill chinks spamming all your facebook friends with made-up bullshit about made-up crimes sure is amazing!
Having mentally ill menheras call your house 24/7 and QUITE LITERALLY CONTACT YOUR PREVIOUS EMPLOYERS WHICH ARE GOOGLE AND META, which could get you blacklisted from employment in the california area, sure is fun!
Thousands of clearly mentally ill people having access to your address, full name, family house address, and personal social media handles sure is FUN!

She was just fired, right? You charcoal gorilla nigger RETARD

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>>73043704
doki just had way more drama going on to draw in viewers. Mint on the other hand returned fairly casually

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>>73104488
Lessee... Sayu made the comment in maybe October 2023, and Nina's graduation announcement was in June 2023?

Well shit, you're right. Now I gotta revise my whole thinking on this incident. ...and now I'm just confused.

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>>73103158
Every time, without fail
Between the clear users from the fucking dox site and them, I dunno what else to expect on some EX Niji thread.

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o shit, pomu redebuted?

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>>73103250
>sell like he owns the rights
wasn't it like 1 buck to access all of them? It sounded like a filter rather than someone actually trying to make bank.

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>>73076003
A south american mall cop saw more action than you

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>>73043704
doki was cuter

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>>73105696
yeah, but we don't know if it's permanent yet. Niji really did a number on her and she's completely broken.
Go support your oshi and convince her to stay! She has a schedule up.

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>>73043704
The situations werent really comparable, Doki had basically the biggest dramabuff of all time
But still, I always thought, all things equal, Pomu would fare far far worse as an indie than Selen. Pomu isnt good at the right kind of self promotion you need to thrive as an indie, so I think she will probably fail miserably. Will be below her NijiEN numbers very soon and in a month or two she will be in the 300-500 CCV swamp with a thousand other indies

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>>73114535
An indie streamer can live quite comfortably off being a mid 3 view, and Mint has quite a few paypigs already hanging around so that would likely be fine. More money wouldn't be bad obviously, but as long as her loyal fanbase has reason to stay around, she'll do quite well.

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>>73093644
>The only reason she'd be upset over people learning that she had issues during her time in niji, would be because she is *in* the clique and doesn't want to defame the company that her clique-mates are in.
exposed yourself as a retarded rrat peddler here because she has no problem doing that herself.

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>>73104551
I dont like her either but if i had to say something positive about her is that, at least to my knowledge, she never brought up her political stance when she was on Niji.

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>>73116209
Hopefully the tourists never get wise to how stupid they sound.
Pretending they would watch "Pomu" if not for the roach is also really funny.

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>>73114535
her fanbase seems to be totally disconnected from niji and very loyal, especially her paypigs like they tend to be. mint's return was bigger than pomu's debut, after all. she may even exceed her niji self eventually.

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>>73102077
Even the biggest retard out there knows that uploading a video of someone being stalked and groped isn't a good fucking idea. You can't make esxcuses for the guy, he was acting purely to make a profit off normies.
>>73107428
It was ten dollars for the patreon only videos tier.

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>>73116732
>>73114535
I think she'll be fine eventually, but only if she can get her confidence back.
>>73117021
wasn't it in the context of showing how fucked up their career was and how far they've come? It was bad taste and autistic, but it wasn't exactly malicious.

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>>73118043
Why are you doing this? Is it so hard to believe that someone who knew there would be consequences for their actions but did it anyway is malicious?
Just because they didn't care about it before it blew up in their face doesn't absolve them of shit.
It's one thing to be ignorant (and it could be argued then) but that was clearly not the case here.
Fuck off.

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>>73118490
yeah because it's exactly the same shit in every other video he's ever made.
He talks about shit as if it's historical without thinking about repercussions towards people still living through them. He looks at "oh man she had a rough life" and doesn't go "HAHA DOX THIS LOSER BITCH HERE'S HER ADDRESS" but instead goes "look how she went from screaming into the void to 2 people every night to performing on stage for tens of thousands."
Didn't seem malicious to me. I consider malicious being shit like picrel.

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>>73118730
I didn't realize there are actual DN simps on this board
please commit suicide to save your parents from the shame of having such a pathetic spawn

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>>73118730
Let me try an analogy.
Is someone speeding and going 70mph through a quiet neighborhood malicious?
They are aware of the consequences of their actions: possibly killing people or causing accidents.
They don't mean to kill people, they just want to go fast for the thrill or whatever.
The answer is yes. It is malicious. Just because you don't care about the consequences doesn't magically justify how fucked up you are.

You don't need to be a sadistic cunt to be a cunt.

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>>73118826
>>73118958
I hope your oshi joins or stays in nijisanji forever. You'd fit right in.

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>>73119200
>everyone not simping a doxxer is a niji simp
Right, how about you do the world a service and don't see tomorrow?

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>>73118043
>"Thank you for watching my video series on the history of the pop singer madonna!"
>"Be sure to join my patreon to see an exclusive video on her early early days struggling to get into music, including the leaked video where she got dragged onto a new york rooftop and raped!"
See how completely retarded that sounds in a different context?

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>>73118958
Fuck you going fast is not malicious
Speed limits, speed bumps and school zones are an affront to God

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I have yet to find a single ounce of proof that Kyo/Quinn directly doxxed her. There's like a bunch of he said/she said, and the only thing I have to encounter is this >>73083405
Which still was a dick move, but comparing that to the faggot Nousagi which sold private matters like how that RDJ interviewer brought up his drug addiction, is a whole different take. Hell even this >>73118730 barely has any traction just like his tweet.

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>>73119917
There's no proof Kyo did anything to her. The rumor came from the fact she was bantering with him in one of her last collabs before being fired. But Kyo never did anything to her as far as we know. It's all just rumors and hearsay from Sayu's fans because they need an enemy.

Kyo is an annoying wigger though so I don't care what happens to him lol.

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>>73119917
It wasn't just one tweet. It was a lot more than one tweet.
The kyo thing is too long to deal with a dead thread at bump limit. It's a lot of circumstantial shit and followed up with the fact that Kyo is the only person Sayu's ever shown any serious malice towards. Like at all. She hasn't even shown active malice towards the people at Niji who betrayed her, and she's chronically naive and has a history of forgiving people for literally cucking her. She's always been honest and willing to confront people to iron out issues directly, and if she's still pissed at Kyo, he did something horrendous to her.

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>>73043704
>Why was her debut so much smaller than Doki's.
dokibros...is it over already?
I like both but I refuse to watch Doki collabing with m*les

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Unpopular goon opinion, but I don't care if Mint and Doki collab. My fellow goons are being blinded by nostalgia. They haven't considered the possibility that Doki herself told them(Ex-NijiENs) not to mention her and to even leave her alone. Let’s use rationality and passionality here. Think about it—Doki hasn’t interacted with another ex-Niji since being terminated. Doki clearly wants to move on with her life and avoid anything related to Nijisanji, with the exception of U-san because U-san is awesome. More importantly, U-san wasn't involved in this situation and is drama-free. Doki is looking to close that chapter, which is why she's reconnecting with old friends and making new ones. I respect that, so I don't expect Doki/Mint collabs or interactions. Instead, I look forward to the new friends she's making, such as Snuffy, Shylily, PiaPi, Filian, and reconnecting with old friends like Mumei, RPR, Uto, Dtto, Nicewigg, TSB, etc. It’s time to stop living in the past and look toward a brighter future.
t. Futuragoon to Archeogoons

[Anonymous No.]

>>73119917
Now deleted tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
kys numbermonkey
>>73043962
kys lucaschizo
>>73044001
>>73043912
>>73044001
>>73073675
>>73079386
>>73098604
and probably like a hundred more
kys dramasisters
i hate /vt/ so much
ok back to the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>73043704
Because she didn't try to kill herself

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>>73120217
>Hard HARD dox posted In replies to her own tweets
I think Sayu fucking sucks, but nobody deserves this. Lives have been ruined over doxxing and I hope those faggots got what they deserved.

Why do people feel the need to ruin peoples personal lives over streaming as anime girls on the internet?

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>>73120531
anon, how could she try that when she's already dead?

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>>73120446
Speaking as a Mint 1.0 fan and occasional Selen enjoyer, pretty based actually. They can be friends behind the scenes and we don't need to know about it. Also fuck yeah PiaPi, you go get that

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>>73043912
this, matara debuff - but ultimately she wouldn't even have come back otherwise so it is what it is a net positive. it would be nice if she collab with doki but i dont think they will at this point unless its like some major event for the podcast or w/e more than likely nothing though at least for a long time :/

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>>73120714
It never stopped, too. They're still trying to find her, even after she moved, and she's been getting threats and harassment to this day.
>But WHy DoESNt ShE JUsT MoVE On???