/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Collabs with homos and male e-celebs
>Hates gachikoi
>Barely streams
>Still extremely successful
How?

[Anonymous No.]

Learn what an idol is, hakujin

[Anonymous No.]

it doesn't matter that she collabs with homos because she is one of those workaholic "married to my job" idols, Same with mori, They care more about their careers than some cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
>Same with mori
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
Comparing Suisei with Mori should be a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Because Suisei doesn't act like she absolutely despises her fans
Next question

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Homo collabs are a sign of being a normal person that can get you far
GFE only gets you gachikois and their disposable money and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016349
>Homo collabs are a sign of being a normal person that can get you far
What does that even mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
normie audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
>care more about their careers than some cock
kek you wish cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016349
>GFE only gets you gachikois and their disposable money and nothing else.
Saying this like it's a bad thing. Rushia is still the most superchatted vtuber on the planet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
The only people who like suisei are lesbians, same with towa
there are very few lesbians but their entire groups income is focused on less than 10 vtubers so it superficially boosts the vtubers they like

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016654
>Rushia is still the most superchatted vtuber on the planet
In which bizarro world?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Her fans are idolfags who love her journey. They're not unicorns, if anything they're pegasi because they want to see their oshi soar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
she has appealed to the normie market, basically the nijiJP demographic

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016669
This statements are factual.
>t.lesbian

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016669
Do people still believe her fake lesbian act?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Most of her fans don't care about those

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016687
Yeah she's basically the most Niji-like holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
The difference between Suisei and Mori is that Suisei built her career from ground up and Mori got everything handed to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
>Skill
What else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Whatever you do, don't look at her Sukikira ranking

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017000
How does having some loser antis make her less successful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017000
>only 1% less hated than Rushia
based, Suiseis behavior on Valentines day made realize she was a cunt
We don't even have any proof of any of the holos being rich besides Noel anyway so the merch sales cope will always be cope to me until people cough up real proof of high net worth

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>>73016654
>Using Rushia as a positive exemple

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017000
Kek when did it get so low?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017109
how is she successful compared to Asmongold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017000
>Hated by nijifans and vtuber-antis
Oh no, whatever shall she do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017172
Did you see Asmon's singing stream? He's not releasing an album anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
Nice try
>>73016247

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
Suisei beautiful inside, a hero's journy
Mori is ugly inside and outside, a cautionary tail

[Anonymous No.]

Do Suiseifans actually hate Mori or is it just one schizo samefagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016907
Are you sure Suisei didn't take any... "shortcuts"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017504
Mostly just one schizo pitting holo vs holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017504
>Suiseifans
There isn't a single Hoshiyomi here since you need to actually know japanese and not only watch clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017516
What are you even implying retard, Suisei joined hololive when it was still small and not that popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017218
But you know he could, and we should thank him he didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017504
I hate anyone who tries to prop up their oshi by attaching themselves to mine so I hate kfp and deadbeats, not the talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017602
Think again about shortcuts a woman can take in her career, not only in Hololive. I'm not implying she did, just asking...

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017504
>Holo vs holo
Take a guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017691
Oh so you're just the schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017728
You're pure, that's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017766
You're a nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016654
It is a bad thing, you fucking retard. Depending on that type of content and a mentally ill audience is very risky. You can lose everything in the blink of an eye, just like what happened to her.

[Anonymous No.]

Because unicucks don’t mean shit. You will never reach a global audience if you cater to exclusively mentally ill men. Cover fully recognizes this and are taking steps towards driving mommy’s basement dwellers out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017444
Why does Suisei like Mori so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017218
>singing
>three decades after people stopped paying for music and just open YouTube instead
Remind me again, literally who actually cares about singers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017974
>three decades after people stopped paying for music and just open YouTube instead
Whatever you do, do not look up Suisei's album sales

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017794
Naah, i just don't believe in fairy tales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016247
JP listeners do it all the time, Mori is thought as the EN suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016907
Mori made Hololive popular worldwide

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017161
Holy shit, what did Miko do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018060
No they don't, larping EOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018065
*Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017000
>The site 80% made up by jp female Nijisanji fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017856
>saying this
>when theres literally 0% chance of anything going wrong if you stay single
>when literally most idols do this anyway
>when being caught dating somebody is still a risk for any female celebrity regardless of her content
Idiot, there's a reason niche hobbies total up to being more valuable than something with "mass appeal"
niche sells better than mass appeal unironically

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>>73018094
Lmao, you are the EOP if you think that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018462
MTL-ing 5ch posts doesn't mean you aren't an EOP, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018123
>Source : my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Unironically, by having her main draw be the idol gig instead of streaming or GFE, she can get advertisements and sponsorships, which are far more important to being successful than superchat numbers, subscriber count, or hours streamed. Look at pic related. If a holo wants to actually do more than stream games, getting with established franchises and brands SHOULD be the game plan, above all else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018515
4chan is where I go for EN vtuber popular consensus
5ch and the anti thread is where I go for JP vtuber popular consensus
Where do you expect me to look for unfiltered, candid opinions? Twitter? The fucking livestreams themselves? Please

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018065
Hololive was already popular worldwide before EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018081
It's a site for antis and sisters, they hate Miko for being associated with Suisei and for raping Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018081
She actually speaks English better than average JOP antis. From their perspective, Miko is bragging about her English proficiency when it's not that great.

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>>73016472
This is what they mean.

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>>73020069
Japanese people are this sensitive about english?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020144
I was shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020099
I look like this and do this

[Anonymous No.]

Deadkeks bringing up mori in any relation to Suisei is one of the most consistently hilarious things

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>>73016072
She's successful musician, which part are struggling with?

>>73016114
(You) should too

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020157
I will now spread your shitpost as gospel

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016907
I'm not a fan of Mori but that's not true. Mori was an ultra weeb-wigger for years rapping in small venues with almost no recognition. She definitely put in the work on a small scale to have enough experience for Holo to consider her as a performer.

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>>73016072
Because she's more musician than vtuber at this point, and I'm really glad, I love her vtubing stuff, but I love her music even more.

>>73016654
Superchat money is not the only measurement of success

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020253
>Mori was an ultra weeb-wigger for years rapping in small venues with almost no recognition.
so not much changed

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Nobody that matters ever said they can't collab with men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020569
the adults are speaking, quiet cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020703
>Unicuck calling anyone a cuck
She'll never fuck you little bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020221
Suisei loves Mori, cope tribalnigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>73020064
ACKSHUALLY Miko was already hated there way before Suisei's ranking plummeted because of the yab, Suisei used to be like rank 10 or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>73022881
anything that helps you sleep at night deadcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Because she doesn't give a fuck about retards who complain about those things and simply does what she wants to do

[Anonymous No.]

>Still forcing holo vs holo
You should watch your failing organs instead nijinigger-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>How
Because Suisei's goal is to be an idol (an ACTUAL JP idol not a LARPing one) and succeed no matter what.

Many other girls (specially talking about HoloEN) are too busy not trying to make /vt/ mad about muh males and whatever other elementary bullshit, and tiptoeing in every stream they do. Also many don't have "idol goals". If they do both it's even worse.

People like Bae and Mori also have this mentality and are successful, but I know retards will have to obligatorily disagree because they're retards who can't think objectively

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>>73016072
Her 'barely streaming' is literally her fulfilling once per week quota and telling her fans if she is taking long breaks on top of giving updates on her Twitter and post break stream, which most lazy Holos with weaker commitment can't even do. She is also both always present and giving full commitment in annual collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
>>Collabs with homos and male e-celebs
So you're saying she doesn't allow antis and schizos dictate how she wants her content to be, and by extension, "ignores the 1 hate comment in a sea of 100 positive comments"
>>Hates gachikoi
So you're saying she doesn't put all her eggs in 1 basket, relying on a few potentially fickle people to support her entire livelyhood
>>Barely streams
So you're saying she's focusing more on music and 3Ds and events and concerts and sponsors, than relying on superchats (which she only gets 30% of max)
>>Still extremely successful
>How?
You ask how but you already answered your own question. Do whatever streams you want, don't pander to unicorns/unicorn LARPers, don't rely on and pander to a few people to support your livelyhood, do more than just streaming, (and obviously with some luck) you'll succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73024013
Also didn't she make a stream showing how to point out blatant trolls and antis, and then those said people got extremely angry and started spamming her (proving her point)?

Yea you gotta be a little based too, if you wanna succeed, and many Holos aren't

[Anonymous No.]

The same way americans love and worship niggers, the japanese are obsessed and love NTR, seeing their women in the hands of other men just give them the tingles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
>"married to my job"
>the job in question

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>>73016072
>another Suisei anti thread
I feel like there have been at least one if not two every day recently. it is worse than normal. Whats going on with this board??
By the way, shitposters, you realize all these threads are useless right? It is literally impossible to damage Suisei's repuatation or change her fans minds. Give up.

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>>73017144
>Suiseis behavior on Valentines day
what, when she was calling Miko during her mengen? kek

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>>73016654
Despite all the money she's still miserable and mentally unstable, specially now that she has lost a lot of her gachis and her husband.

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>>73024445
wasn't she spending all her money on host clubs kek

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>>73016349
Gachikoi =/= unicorn
Suisei has tons of gachikois. She doesn't have unicorns that insist that she can't talk to males ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
she is cool

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>>73024354
Yeah, I've noticed they've ramped up lately. Maybe because she's on break?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016669
Interesting! I didn't know that I even could be lesbian as a man but hey, you learn something new everyday!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73024266
Thought for sure that was going to be a pic of a hoers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
she has good legs

[Anonymous No.]

What happened in Niji this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016247

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Normie audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Unicorns are full of shit that's how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73027622
That and new Nijidrama is brewing.

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>>73016654
If they mostly decided to be a vtuber for money than pandering to unicorns does work but it's more stressful and has several downsides. Hololive talents like Suisei that have never cared about unicorns tend to have more western vtubers that look up to them. Vtubing might be a niche anime hobby but she did get closer to a mainstream audience.

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>>73024354
EOP Nijisister antis like to focus on one JP Holo that they think is the center of Hololive's success for some reason. It used to be Marine in the past. It was Miko at some point (where you'd get schizos that shit on 35p for everything under the sun). Now it's apparently Suisei.
Since a lot of Nijis are doomposting on their PL accounts now, the anti sisters ramped up too.

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorn pandering and gfe are for hacks who don't have actual talent and need to rely on being virtual prostitutes
Suisei has actual talent, so she doesn't need to whore herself out to succeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Her success story is substantive and she isn't just a pretty face that can sing and dance like most idols. She has a solid determination to push herself and produce a body of admirable work.

Also... Sakura Miko. Mikochi promotion of her helps more than people realize. Stellar Stellar would not have become such a hit had she not been such a fan of Suisei and the song and given it more exposure by always singing it. The girls should self promote songs more like they did with Treasure Box, Ahoy, and Stellar Stellar. Songs from one idol may not hit the broader fanbase unless most of the girls try to cover or stream it. They individually are popular, but together they massively boost the popularity among the collective vtube industry.

[Anonymous No.]

she has good design, good voice and being jp, doing male collabs is ok. the jp audience does not seem to mind anymore, unless its lamy, the en girls, nene holojp or kanata doing it yeah i can see backlash happening. even koyori who is gfe also gets no backlash at all from offcollabing with tenkai and shibuya. jp audience are more forgiving now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
>>Collabs with homos and male e-celebs
>>Hates gachikoi
>>Barely streams
these are all okay when its JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>73017873
So whores with boyfriends. Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha

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>>73016247
Yeah, Mori streams a lot more, makes more songs, and is more successful than Suisei.

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>>73035547
She is a nepotism baby pull there from Blackrock investors and the Rochthild and Rockefellers like all vtubers and streamers

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>>73016072
Cause Suisei is unironically The Chosen One.
Actually talented Gigastacy who many look up to for going from zero to hero. Her fans dont even care about idol shit, they are just happy to see how far she has gotten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73036088
So many cucks and femcels whores in here.

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>>73036436
So she is the antichrist. A whore women is the antichrist like in Adam and Eve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
>people like her as a musician first and foremost
>she has the blue dorito logo backing her
That's the secret

[Anonymous No.]

>>73036500
Anon, I am already sold on her. But thanks anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016247
Yeah, Mori actually streams while Suisei doesn't

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>>73016072
>Making an anti thread about Suisei of all chuubas
Kill yourself, shitstain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016873
Quit insulting her like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73036436
>hoshityomi complaining about idols.
why is this so common? she joined hololive instead of nijisanji, get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73018036
You believe in getting scammed by your boyfriend instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73036392
And 1000 other bullshit you keep spouting, retarded Nijisistrash. Luca is a loser, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73036902
Are you still coping and seething because your precious black company doesn't have a Suisei? Wow, you're a total loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73023677
Don't compare Bae or Mori (who actually work hard with all the shit that they do and constantly stream for their fans on top of it) with someone like Suisei who has pretty much given up on spending time with her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just one fag RPing as all these Suisei antis

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>>73036436
Whenever you see braindead shit like this post, you know it's the suischizos falseflagging and replying to each other again. They aren't even subtle with their posting style.
I miss the days when you can look at the unique poster counts and instantly see these threads for what they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016186
This. Monkeys can seethe all they wany about it, but Mori and Suisei are objectively both idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73038641
>Mori
idol
Nice try cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>73040348
Seethe more, monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73016072
Talent. Western roasties lack this hence why they need to whore themselves out to compensate

[Anonymous No.]

>>73038605
>accuses others of posting braindead shit
>posts braindead shit himself
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