/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

So now that the dust has settled, taking into account the majority opinion of everyone who has left, Nijisanji basically did nothing wrong, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Not only did niji do nothing wrong, we were doing a public service by teaching those bitch traitors their place.

[Anonymous No.]

Enna is cuter than Doki

[Anonymous No.]

>>72987791
Enna is cuntier than Doki*
*FTFY

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>>72986803
Your people crap on the sidewalk.

[Anonymous No.]

Good luck convincing Vtuber normies of anything but the established narrative. Omg my dramatuber said doki did nothing wrong based on his research of tweets.
I think niji screwed up pretty hard but I’m guessing doki also messed up since no one in niji or ex-niji wants to defend her it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji are the victims
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>72986803
>>72986908
>>72987791
>>72988551
Samefagging your bait thread isn't gonna get it traction faggot, It will be deleted just like the last one, GIVE, UP, Stop trying to rewrite history, we all saw what happened in feburary and literally everybody has moved on except for you blithering femcels who can't let it go, Stop dramafagging and watch some streams

[Anonymous No.]

>One of the only Ex-Niji members to not shit on Niji whenever possible
>Sisters deem her worst then the Anti Christ
Someone explain why their brains work like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>72989166
>Everyone who disagrees with me at all is the same person
> I eat a diet of exclusively chalk and crayons.

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>>72989216
Because she made them (Niji) shit on themselves, and in a massive way
Which in turn validates everything everyone else has been saying about Niji, from the former talents and from fans, for the past 4 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>72989166
>Nooooo, they all said something I don't like, such things can't be possible, they only can be the same person, yeah, HAHAHAHA, that is what is going, they are all THE SAME PERSON HAHAHAHAHAHA
Schizo

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>>72989216
>the best revenge is living well
>Sisters: if we make her life a living hell, she can no longer have her revenge!

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>>72989216
Because niji's smear campaign against her and the subsequent backlash is the reason EN is in serious risk of dying (let's ignore the fact EN was dying before selen and pomu were gone as per the Q3 results), They think if they can smear doki and turn public opinion against her that somehow that will bring NijiEN back into the spotlight, They are delusional and can't fathom that even IF selen somehow was """overreacting""" to everything and somehow in the wrong, The reason everyone hates niji is due to how THEY acted publicly and how they responded, Not to mention the blatant lies about selen's character that were disproven by the dozens of artists she worked with coming out of the woodwork to call out the BS in that termination letter, Also the counterprogramming of her neopets stream which caused her to cancel it and nearly have a full panic attack breakdown on stream, These fuckers can't grasp it was niji's fault because they are brand worshipping third world garbage eaters who lack human decency and empathy

[Anonymous No.]

Only thing Doki did wrong was not expose Niji and what they've done. Oh wait, forgot Niji did that themselves & thought it looked good.

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>>72989362
> I eat a diet of exclusively chalk and crayons.
Yes, we could tell by your insistence on defending a blatantly black company, through one of its manifestly worst offenders no less.

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>>72986803
>taking into account the majority opinion of everyone who has left

Pomu, Nina, Mysta, and Kyo all make it sound like they were battered housewives who finally managed to escape.

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>>72989362
>>72989614
Samefagging again retard?, Give it up, You inbred retard, Kill yourself you fetid little pagpag, Doki did nothing wrong, Nijisanji killed itself by smearing her with lies that were easily called out by all the people who have worked with her over her career and vouched for her character, She has done NOTHING to dramabait or shit stir even once, Only responding to niji's attacks on her and then moving on, Go shitpost about matara and quinn shit talking niji every chance they got, Or sayu who leaked her fucking contracts to that gator, Doki is the LEAST of your worries sister

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>>72989812
Pomu broke down in tears, Matara keeps talking about how shit ""hollywood"" was, Quinn talks about how much of a NIGHTMARE it was, Kuro as well, We have sayu constantly obsessed with it, And Mint on her dearsqn account certainly acting like a traumatized wreck with how much she was breaking down over the support she was getting even from her twitter spaces, The ONLY Ex-Niji members not actively shitting on niji are doki and u-san, for fucks sake doki ran counter-rrat defenses for them and didn't shit talk them or make snide comments ONCE in her vtuber advice stream,

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>>72990043
(Me) *Pomu broke down in tears regarding her Once in a Lifetime opportunity, Is what i was trying to say

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>>72989406
>>72989615
So sisters are literally just too petty to take the easy out of just NOT fanning the flames and are in too deep to back down?
>>72989658
Wait they actually thought a smear campaign against one of their only big name EN members with good PR would work?
What third world idiot thought that was a good idea?

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>>72986803
Is it a requirement for bait threads to have “now that the dust has settled” in them?

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>>72990205
The same third world idiots continuing to seethe and smear her a full 2 months later, Calling her a grifting menhera, comparing her to rushia, Making blacklists of anyone supporting her, Obsessing with her /here/ and on their nyfco doxxsite because they see her as their mortal enemy when she never once fired a single shot at them and just kept trying to move on

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>>72989779
> black company
As if you fags had heard that term before niji or could name any examples of black companies. All you “people” can do is repeat talking points fed to you by this site or Twitter.
I hate that you retards are incapable of not making everything into a neat easy narrative. Niji clearly fucked up with how they handled stuff, that’s not really even a question but it’s also entirely possible doki fucked up. One does not exclude the other.
They didn’t approve her video on time, she freaked out and told people to reupload it. I can understand where she was coming from but she also had the option to just play by their stupid Japanese rules and leave at the earliest opportunity like everyone else does.

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>>72990514
Hello newfag
I don't know if you know but she literally said
>I asked to have a normal graduation and they denied me and they terminated me
So she did exactly what she tried to do but your black shithole deathtrap of a company that everyone wants out of, denied her.

You're fucking retarded stop bootlicking

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>>72990514
>It's entire possible doki fucked up too
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK IF SHE MSSED UP OR NOT
>She could have just played by the rules
Why is luca not playing by the rules and allowed to go on like nothing happened?, He stole a Hololive BGM, Fucked over elden ring perms for everyone, Had his entire career built FOR him by his VR Chat mommy, the list goes on, What did doki do wrong?, Oh a single MV?, Yeah that justifies them lying about her not paying artists or breaking third party copyrights only to retract that excuse after it came out she DID get all the perms and make up some BS about needing permission to use nina and mysta which future organs wouldn't need to do when they used pomu in their MVs

[Anonymous No.]

Which EN members can recover from NijiEN collapsing?

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>>72990514
>2% merch cut
>They can steal half your paycheck at anytime for infractions they have unilateral say over
>They own everything you use when working for them, Even equipment and assets you fully pay for and commission yourself or things you owned BEFORE joining
>Management is nonexistent lazy ESLs
>They can lock you into your contract without your consent
>T...Totally not a black company guys

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>>72990915
Scarle and Aia mainly, despite the low view numbers they are the only ones doing good in supas

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>>72990724
> You're fucking retarded stop bootlicking
You are literally incapable of critical thought. I don’t care about defending niji I don’t have some brand loyalty I haven’t watched any of their streamers in a while because I didn’t want to deal with all the drama around the company.
Niji could be a terrible company but that doesn’t mean doki wasn’t in the wrong in some respects. Two things can be true at once. For example I could hate my boss because he is an asshole but I would still be in the wrong if I leaked company documents or something.

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>>72989658
You forgot to mention their slave contract.

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>>72989812
I can believe everyone except Kyo, he's a lying two-faced motherfucker who tried to have it both ways wherever he went. He's the reason 39Daph was trying to shit on Doki.

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>>72991133
>I don't watch Niji or know anything that happened but I'm right!
Are you a fucking retard? What's even your point? You say Doki was wrong. Ok, about what? Literally what did she do wrong? Tell people to reupload her song? That's the only thing she did, and fine sure I'll make you happy and agree that was wrong. Was it wrong enough for a month long suspension and a termination? What warranted that?

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>>72991039
Damn Vivi Rose and the Chunni boi aren't doing well? sad to hear but good for Aia and Scarle

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>>72991133
>doesn't mean doesn't mean doki wasn't in the wrong
Because it doesn't matter, stop trying to simp for a corporation you bootlicking faggot

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>>72989812
The only real difference in opinion feels like the grads blame the cult but refuse to acknowledge the cult members part in it.

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>>72991039
Yeah these two are the ones away on their own little islands. Their ccv is very low but consists of whales. So they wont actually really lose anything. They dont have enough of the wider nijibox to really lose anything by cutting it off, and the viewers they do have are 100% dedicated enough to follow them.

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>>72991613
Because doing so is just unnecessary drama and instead of wanting a nonstop petty deathwar like S*y*, everyone just wants to move on with their lives (and because S*y* is so obsessed it's why no one has reached out to her lmao).

And that's a reasonable and sensible decision to make. You don't want to come off as a vindictive bitch who's whole personality is your ex job.

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>>72986803
Heard Kotoka was going to get the boot. Is it true she was the snake who sold out Mel? I honestly feel sorry for her bcoz I watched her a lot when she debuted and I don't really care about what she did to Zaion anyway but her being the cause for Mel's termination would unironically make me hate her guts.

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>>72991133

>>72990971

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>>72991910
Did you unironically censor Sayu's name tik-tok style? Go back nijisis.

>>72986803
Let's assume that we say "yes". What does it change? All the shit Nijisanji is eating is caused by their own devices. The problem is not rooted in public perception, but the literal inability of a company to shut the fuck up.

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>>72992859
>>>>>>>>tik tok invented vowel censoring
Anon you exposed yourself

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>>72992859
>Did you unironically censor Sayu's name tik-tok style? Go back nijisis.
Ironically, you're the one who needs to go back. That's been a 4chan thing for forever

[Anonymous No.]

Her model and fanart can be hot, but everything else about her sucks.

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>>72990915
I'd imagine that pretty much any NijiEN member (except for maybe people like Luca and Elira who have a shitton of drama weighing them down right now) could probably leverage their experience to get themselves hired by one of the smaller corpos, then use the fresh start to rebuild.
As far as specific examples go, though, I can think of at least two who will almost certainly be fine:
>Rosemi has her ex-Tsunderia connections in Phase that she could easily lean on to get nepo'd in if she wanted. Harada might be willing to take steps to help her out, too
>Kunai literally had more subs on her PL and had plenty of connections in the League of Legends scene (including a few people who are bigger than most NijiEN members, lol); unless she's done something to burn those bridges since putting her indie identity on hiatus, I'm sure her old social circle would be more than happy to help prop her up

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>>72986803
Here's a (You) to go with your rope

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>>72986803
Enna anon. It's ok. Let it go.

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>>72989838
You seem to not know what samefagging is, schizo

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>>72986803
Enna cute

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>>72991133
If you can find anything that was actually her fault in this, good luck. I'm sure Nijisanji would pay you your weight in gold to save their stock prices. Selen hasn't had a real yab in her entire career to this point that wasn't her overreaching for the sake of her fanbase or missing important emails due to being overworked. Her career under the company has been virtually spotless, and everybody not directly under Nijisanji's payroll has ever had a bad word to say about her.

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>>72991910
>sayu's so obsessed
She's been harassed for over a year. In person, too, cuz you know the "people wanting to move on" got ahold of her personal information and address. It's hard not to acknowledge those people when they're sending you death threats every day, sometimes to your actual home.

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>>72995708
>uz you know the "people wanting to move on" got ahold of her personal information
You stupid faggot
Why're you pretending I meant fans when I clearly meant ex nijis. You're arguing in bad faith.
And I'm not condoning that shit, but that wasn't the original point

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>>72998896
She's not. Most of her complaints about actual backstabbers come from people who were "friends" before joining Nijisanji, and then ditched her after she left, only to jump onto Doki's coattails as soon as it was convenient, like Cy Yu. Those felt more like betrayals than anybody at Niji other than Nina, Kotoka, Finana who she actually tried to get close to.

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>>72989216
>Hurr durr me tried to killz meself cuz Niji bad
>One of the only Ex-Nini members to not shit on Niji
Someone explain why their brains work like this

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>>72993056
I've been here a lot longer than you, sister - and it hasn't been a 4chan thing. Do try to remember that this board is practically uncensored and unmoderated, and the world is vastly better for it.

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>>72989216
>One of the only Ex-Niji members to not shit on Niji whenever possible
And other jokes you can tell yourself. She has no identity past being Selen who was wronged by le heckin evil corpo. She has no identity past being Selen, that's why everything she does is just a rehash of what she did in Niji. She even makes the same long neck jokes despite that not even working with her model.

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>>72991133
>doesn't mean doesn't mean doki wasn't in the wrong
Because it doesn't matter, stop trying >>72999785
>noooo you can't tell people you tried to kill yourself think of the COMPANY IMAGE
shut the fuck up freedom hating nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>73001636
Rare based fumo post, holy shit.

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>>72989658
>The truth doesn't matter!
>It's because Nijisanji were rude and lied!
The Dokifag playbook when they realize she's a liar. Half of those artists confirmed she actually did pay artists late but blamed Niji for it since they're retarded and don't know how anything works. Them being "mean" is them defending themselves, they're not going to stalk Doki to find a time where she isn't streaming to defend themselves. The world doesn't revolve around your menhera

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>>73001636
>>73001837
No one said she wasn't allowed to announce her attempt retard. That's a strawman you created. But announcing that Niji is to blame for the attempt contradicts the statement that she didn't shit talk Niji. Learn English so I don't have to explain next time. And stop samefagging. It's pathetic.

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>>73001895
Based truther!

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>>72999785
Doki said nothing about what happened to her at Kurosanji EN until the termination notice came out, and it contained a great deal of actual "shit" (defamation of character and half-truths).
If Doki hadn't pushed back, the narrative would have been accepted in Zaion/Sayu fashion. It has been accepted uncritically by the NDF sycophants.
Ultimately Niji did this to themselves. Their unhinged sister fan-base continues to pour gasoline on a raging fire. Someday this will be a teachable moment at university level.

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>>72990971
>2% merch cut
Disproven by the contract
>They can steal half your paycheck at anytime for infractions they have unilateral say over
You can't fucking read. That's only money made off unauthorized content uploaded on company accounts
>They own everything you use when working for them
Wrong, it says they own everything they lend you. Have you never read anything important before?
>Management is nonexistent lazy ESLs
Actually the majority of Nijis talk and hang out with their managers when they're in Japan
>They can lock you into your contract without your consent
Do you mean they give you two weeks if to decide whether you want to leave your contract or not? I don't think you know how companies work if you think they can just force you to stay in a contract . The real ESL must be you

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>>73002033
Not reading your shit until you pull the corpo arm using you as a meat puppet out of your ass nigger

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>>72995708
It's funny how you retards insist that Sayu was harassed in person but no one posts any clip saying she was and instead it's just Sayu schizoing out about the possibility of someone shitting on her in person

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>>73001895
MONGOLOID RETARD, SHE DIDN'T LIE ABOUT ANYTHING BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T S A Y ANYTHING
>The truth doesn't matter!
Actually it does, the truth is doki got fucked over by a seething jealous clique cause she had everything they didn't, Connections, Talents, Fans, the works
>Half those artists confirmed she actually did pay artists late
Mongoloids making up bullshit lies again and again kill yourself seriously
> Them being "mean" is them defending themselves
DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST WHAT!?, SHE DIDN'T S A Y ANYTHING, AGAIN, THEY FIRED EVERY SINGLE SHOT THEMSELVES
> they're not going to stalk Doki to find a time where she isn't streaming to defend themselves
Oh sure they don't, Must have been a coincidence that they initially scheduled the black box stream for 5:30 pm PST. a full half hour after doki was set to go live, But then RESCHEDULED IT to 5:00 pm flat ONLY after doki's waiting room went up, Yep totally not a deliberate stab in the back
>The world doesn't revolve around your menhera
Neck yourself mongoloid
>>73002033
>But announcing that Niji is to blame for the attempt contradicts the statement that she didn't shit talk Niji
We seriously need to region ban SEAfaggots from this board jesus fucking christ, The way you think in circles and cling and claw and scrape so DESPERATELY for anything to justify your shitflinging is downright pathetic, Her saying she experienced bullying and harassment within the company was the ONLY thing she ever said negatively about them up to that point and the only thing she ever said negatively of them SINCE, Meanwhile matara goes on a """hollywood""" rant every other week, Sayu is perpetually living in the past for it, Kuro shit on niji for months after too, Quinn made his WHOLE fucking redebut all about how much of a "nightmare" it was there, But someone DOKI is the only one you inbreds focus on, Seriously get over it, Get over her, She has done NOTHING to you, It's all niji's own god damn fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>73001895
>Half of those artists confirmed she actually did pay artists late but blamed Niji for it since they're retarded
Source?

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>>73002464
What, do you want audio records of the phone calls and death threats?
There's records of her information being spread all over twitter and the dox site, and for several of her early streams back she cried about the harassment. Did you think people just forgot about it? She had to move because of it before someone tried to swat her house or set her car on fire.

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>>73002335
>Disproven by the contract
No it wasn't
>That's only money made off unauthorized content uploaded on company accounts
No where did it specify this
>Wrong, it says they own everything they lend you
No it didn't
>Actually the majority of Nijis talk and hang out with their managers when they're in Japan
Irrelevant nonsense and doesn't at all dispute the claim they are ESLs
>Do you mean they give you two weeks if to decide whether you want to leave your contract or not?
Did you not read the part where "Any activity done under the identity of the character signals automatic consent to renewal of contract or any and all edits to the contract"?
Jesus fucking christ literally EVERY one of your bullet points was a fucking lie, Kill yourself you worthless inbred pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

>>73002324
The funniest shit is this is 100% on them. If they just let Doki leave quietly like she wanted, she would've even let the suicide thing get covered up as she focused on her new career, just like she's doing now. She's done nothing but continue where she left off.

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>>73002778
The source is they made it the fuck up, Literally EVERY negative thing they have to say about doki has been completely and utterly fabricated, Literally every, single, one, There is no arguing with inbred tribalistic mongoloids

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>>73001636
nazrin why are you here

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>>72986803
April Fool's Day was three days ago.

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>>72989216
Honestly I think it's just shitters looking for drama, because nobody really hated her in /NijiEN/ before or after.

That said, she isn't a saint, but that's neither here nor there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73003092
It's discord raiders trying to flood threads with whatever narrative their collective 39IQ can muster. The doxxsisters are sadly sending their best and this is it

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>>72986803
Foreigners need to understand the importance of loyalty to the company. In Japanese society, treason is not accepted. This is one of the reasons Japan is considered a leading nation in Asia. Riku-sama is performing excellently, and he has the support of all Japanese people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73001629
Women tell me where I'm wrong? When has she shat on Niji?
>>72999785
Hi Enna how's becoming irrelevant?

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>>73002636
A GURrat believer expects anyone to take his delusions seriously? What talent does Doki have? The only connections she's built is through being the anti Niji cash cow
>Mongoloids making up bullshit lies again and again kill yourself seriously
Kek half those artists complained about NIJI not paying them so Selen had to despite Selen always being the one that's supposed to pay for her commissions. Multiple Niji members talk about having to pay for covers out of pocket.
>DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST WHAT!?
Seethe more. They didn't just make up an accusation to defend themselves against. She wrote her all in her document which she said she'd talk about to the public.
>Must have been a coincidence that they initially scheduled the black box stream for 5:30 pm PST.
Bingo. Now you get it. When three people have to meet up to record something, these people would rather do it sooner than later because they would be busy. They also learned that Tazumi would make his own statement. You schizos are actually obsessed with Niji. Someone could be talking about soul and you'd twist it into them saying Doki should be dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>73003258
They definitely know about loyalty as an american vassal state lmao

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>>73003449
Don't they have to pay through Nijisanji specifically so it can count as a business expense on their taxes?
>Seethe more. They didn't just make up an accusation to defend themselves against.
They literally did. Doki never made anything public despite them claiming she was blackmailing them. If she was blackmailing them, why not release the information after negotiations broke down? It's not like Niji was playing nice with the whole "We're gonna make sure you never work in this industry ever again btw thanks for all the money and assets you made for us."

[Anonymous No.]

Only divine intervention will plug the holes in this sinking ship. I hear more graduations coming soon. I don't think this branch is gonna last til summer...

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>>73002977
"Now that the dust has settled" we have before us a perfect example of how anti-marketing never works and always blows back. Saner companies would have learned their lessons from the repeated failures and moved on to more successful strategies - like shutting the fuck up. This one does not. Won't make a difference to Riku, though - he'll just shut the EN branch down or fold it into the JP branch like he did with IN and EN v0.

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>>73003449
>what talent does doki have?
More ambition and drive to actually get shit done then all of Niji EN combined. High level FPS player and ladder grinder. Extrovert who can get a collab going in an industry dominated by introvert shut-ins.
>They didn't just make up accusations
Well I'd argue there was a lot of bullshit in their termination notice, but you're right. They were the first to bring up harassment and bullying. They were the ones to do the black stream after doki wanted to move on.
>insane cope about the timing of the black stream
Out of your mind.

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>>73003449
Post arm and power outlet

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>>73003681
If only Riku forked a couple coins hiring a real lawyer instead of some random shmuck in the office, a lot of this retardation could've been avoided.

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>>73003847
I'll save you the trouble, their arm is brown and their power outlet looks like this

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>>73003449
>The only connections she's built
Was by being the biggest female member of NijiEN, The FACE of Nijiunity, The collab organizer, The deal maker, The project organizer, The logistics girl, And being completely and UTTERLY spotless within the company, Her only "sin" was actually being the OPPOSITE of "Anti Niji", You history rewriting fucktard, SHE WAS THE B I G G E S T Nijishill in the fucking company, She defended the corpo when they cancelled AR Live while all of luxiem minus luca were bitching about it, She defended niji for EVERYTHING they were fucking up, She took the fall when THEY fucked over her projects, Took all the blame onto herself multiple times over, To the point dragoons were considering dropping her for how much of a battered housewife she was being
>Kek half those artists complained about NIJI not paying them so Selen had to despite Selen always being the one that's supposed to pay for her commissions. Multiple Niji members talk about having to pay for covers out of pocket.
Nijisanji is still supposed to handle said payments even if the organ is the one paying, They had to send artists NDAs and paperwork in order to work with selen and they either never did OR misspelled them and sent them late, Wasn't one of the biggest complaints they had about selen in the termination document something about her not getting proper clearance for things?, WELL WHEN THE COMPANY IS FUCKING UP NDAS AND ARE MONTHS UPON MONTHS LATE FOR DEADLINES, OF C O U R S E SHE'S GONNA TAKE MATTERS INTO HER OWN HANDS RETARD
>She wrote her all in her document which she said she'd talk about to the public.
A nijisanji dicksucker expects anyone to take her delusions seriously?, She never said she was gonna make any fucking document public, Niji lied about it, Like they lied about everything else, Doki has ONLY ever said she wanted to move on, You can say this is a "she said corpo said" situation, But considering doki has N O T O N C E shown any bitterness or lingering ill will after it was all said and done, And niji has a LONG long history of being vindictive and garbage and untrustworthy, Yeah i'll take doki's word that she had no intent on making her suffering public, Also here is a minor little factioid that is a little important nothing too major but uh N O B O D Y W O U L D H A V E K N O W N A B O U T T H E D O C U M E N T I F N I J I S A N J I D I D N ' T T E L L U S I T E X I S T E D
>Bingo. Now you get it. When three people have to meet up to record something, these people would rather do it sooner than later because they would be busy.
Do you seriously... S E R I O U S L Y believe that livestream wasn't pre recorded?.. Oh my fucking god you brainless fucking ape how utterly retarded can one sister be???, You S E R I O U S L Y want all of us to believe they deliberately rescheduled it half an hour early on coincidence?, God you inbreds all deserve to die, Your organs deserve to die, Your company deserves to die, You are all worthless fucking dregs and wastes of oxygen, a cancer on the entire vtubing community

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Much like every time Niji fucks up it's because they're idiots.
Literally just needed to NOT speak after the termination and everything would have been fine but whoever is in charge of the EN branch had to be a petty child and give the okay on the black stream.

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>>73002424
I accept your concession pagpag

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>>73003258
Uh, no, Riku-"sama" IS the problem, and Anycolor's current stock price is a reflection of same.
The investors recognize it, despite the majority being Japanese themselves (which would ensure a shared set of cultural values).
As it turns out, dumb-ass trust-fund kids running companies into the ground and burning through shit-tons of Mom & Dad cash is a universal trope.

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>>73002778
This is one, there are two others. Also Aia revealed on stream that the person responsible for sending contracts to people working on commissions is the commissioner. So any horseshit about people not being sent the contract on time is Selen's fault

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>>73001629
Man you clearly have never watched a single dokibird stream since she came back cause literally everything you said was a complete and utter lie
>OMG THIS PERSON HAS THE SAME PERSONALITY AS BEFORE WHY DIDN'T SHE CHANGE ALL OF HER MANNERISMS AND JOKES DOESN'T SHE KNOW HER ENTIRE IDENTITY IS NIJISANJI PROPERTY NOW????"
Kill yourself and your entire inbred pagpag kind sister

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>>73002636
Retarded SEA sister is seething. I ain't reading all that.

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>>73003904
Riku-"sama" was saving his coin for the inevitable buybacks.

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>>73004092
I think the sister is pulling your leg because he jerks off to your emotions. Please calm down.

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>>73004241
Post the two others

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>>73003838
>High level fps player
Kek.

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>>72986803
>Sister thinks the dust has settled
lol, lmao even
We haven't even seen the effect the SEREN SHOKKU will have on Riku's yacht yet.

Oh yes, here's the goat translation:
>Q3 was when farmer Riku had to tell his landowner that he only sold 60 goats compared to last years' 100 goats
>Q4 is when he's sold almost 0 goats thanks to his main female goat peddler getting fired and abused so hard, no one else wanted to buy his goats

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>>73002636
>REEEE WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOKI
Because the thread is about Enna allegedly bullying Dooki. SEA sisters displaying their subhuman iq once again.

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>>73002886
You whine like a bitch. Guess you're not called /vt/rannies for nothing. It's amazing how everything you say is either a lie or just marker sniffing retardation

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>>73004241
>ESL machine translation
>Somehow spins her blaming the corpo as her blaming selen
>Bullshit nonsense about something entirely unrelated that aia said
roru, rumao even

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>>72989166
Let them believe there's nothing wrong! It's exactly that kind of attitude which imploded Nijisanji ID.

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>>73004291
Uh anon that person was defending doki, They were responding to said Retarded SEA sister

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>>73003646
>If she was blackmailing them, why not release the information after negotiations broke down?
Are you playing retarded? That's like what she did the second she found out she got fired

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>>73004193
>corpo slave calling anyone a paypig
Thanks for the laugh dao, I don't even watch doki but I'll be sure to send a dono in just for you the next time she's live

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>>73004380
Top percentile is top percentile. I personally don't jerk off to e-sports pros, so replace "high level" with whatever you like.

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>>73004538
>Doesn't dispute any of the points made
I accept your concession sister, Wash your itchy infected pagpag cunt

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>>73004688
Damn, you SEA fucks are just going full retard in this thread. Never go full retard.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>73004380
If you want, you can prove her wrong. She always says she never hides her map on stream because if you need it to find her, you can't kill her.
She's no pro, but to deny she's at least great at FPS games is just disingenuous.
>>73004241
Selen is not a lawyer able to draft contracts or NDAs, and last I checked, neither is any of the organs. You're an idiot and that screenshot is not arguing in favor of you.
>>73004571
You really can't read, huh?

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Can you bitches stop using my oshi's face for your war? Unicorns hate Enna, drama vultures want someone easy to hate as their big mastermind villain, but none of that shit has anything to tie Enna to Selen being some grand adversaries. Hell, Selen is one of the few NijiEN's Enna would happily collab with more than once, and they were all friendly collabs with good banter and chemistry. The idea she's a bully is a fanfiction for drama starved addicts.

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>>73004571
>Picrel for ants
>Doesn't dispute any of the points made
I accept your concession, Also we all literally read it and we know what was in it, You are just straight up wrong

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>>73004784
>Doesn't dispute any of the points this thread is about
>Deflects
I accept your concession sister. Wash your itchy, infected, pagpag cunt. That's how the sentence would look if you actually knew English.

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>>73004682
Really? So can you link me the document that has Elira, Millie, and Enna's address in it? That's what the blackmail was for, right? Or are you just being intentionally obtuse?

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>>73004848
>unironic Ennacuck

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>>73004682
What info did she leak retard?, All she said was that she experienced bullying and harassment in the company, and that it was so bad she made an attempt on her own life, And now she was moving on and done with it

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>>73004799
I think you replied to the wrong person anon.....

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>>73003838
>More ambition and drive to actually get shit done then all of Niji EN combined
And then she proceeds to not actually do things properly then goes off the rails instead of following the rules.
>High level FPS player
kek
>Extrovert
KEK What kind of tourist shit is this?
>They were the first to bring up harassment and bullying
Wrong, that was Selen. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. The fact you think people streaming at the same time as each other is proof of malice shows you're a deluded faggot

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>>73004958
Shit's flung in such quantities he literally can't tell who's dissing who anymore. Pls be patient.

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>>73004958
No, I'm talking to you. You confused pagpag with paypig. Retarded SEA cunt.

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>>73004682
Ah yes she posted the blackmail after she was fired. And your proof of that is where exactly? Surely you have SOMETHING to back this up?

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>>73005021
>Nijinig still seething at Doki to this day
lmao

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>>73005021
>Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen
Actually that is exactly what it means, Nijisanji accuses selen of accusing them and saying she is gonna go public, Doki says she had no intentions to do anything except move on, Doki's word is more trustworthy because nijisanji lied about other things like her not paying artists or breaking third party copyrights when she did neither

[Anonymous No.]

Guys stop fighting! You're making Kronii sad! She might have another meltdown again!

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>>73005229
I love Kronii even if she doesn't love herself.
We love you clock.

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>>73005155
>seething at Doki to this day
>Nijinig
Pot meet kettle

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>>73005021
>And then she proceeds to not actually do things properly then goes off the rails instead of following the rules.
the rules were so bad that in the two months she's had since leaving the company she's put out more successful projects than the entirety of NijiEN in 2023. And all she's doing is the exact same shit she was doing for them, only faster and better.

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>>73005297
>Put out more successful projects
Name one.

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>>73005229
A kronii and doki collab would be hilarious

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>>73005127
Nice try champ

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>>73004092
>Nijisanji is still supposed to handle said payments even if the organ is the one paying
Interesting because Raziel's Luca hit piece proved that the payments come from the member's pockets directly
>They had to send artists NDAs
Wrong, the person commissioning them is supposed to send the NDA. It's faster than way
>She never said she was gonna make any fucking document public
Memoryholing the Neopets stream is a common Dokifag tactic.
>Yeah i'll take doki's word
So you admit you're retarded? You're trusting someone insanely mentally ill with a history of being a gaslighter that has motive to lie because Niji bad
>The stream was pre-recorded
Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum

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>2 months later
>Doki still infuriates sisters by simply existing
kek

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>>73005355
Her charity event which raised over 250k
Her apex tournament appearances and twitch rivals tournaments
Her various merch drops
Her new model which is coming really soon
Her Dokibites animations

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>people defending fucking nijisanji
Even for shitposting reasons, that is kinda pitiful.

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>>73005355

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>>73005521
>4 years later
>Niji still infuriates sisters by simply existing
Kek

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>>73005530
NIJI dipped below Phase and Idol in terms of rep, it's incredible.

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>>73004846
>Selen is not a lawyer able to draft contracts or NDAs
It's a good thing the only thing she's supposed to be doing is sending the contracts and not writing them. Retard

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>>73005021
Retarded rules don't deserve to be followed

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>>73005522
So a charity event that anyone could've done. Wow. So much....

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>>73005506
You're telling me a company like Niji trust's people with no experience in writing NDA's to write an NDA?

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>>73004940
Who the fuck was talking their address? Nijisanji said she was threatening to make her claims public if negotiations broke down then that's exactly what she did. Claim being "I was harassed to suicide in Nijisanji". They told you what would happen, it happened and now you're just denying that people already told you what would happen

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>>73005530
That's literally this board whenever someone tries to bring up Hololive

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>>73005756
you of course have proof of this yes?

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>>73005506
>Interesting because Raziel's Luca hit piece proved that the payments come from the member's pockets directly
...What on earth are you talking about? You didn't even read the document. Luca said he specifically could not give her a contract or pay her properly because he'd be fired if he did.
>Wrong, the person commissioning them is supposed to send the NDA. It's faster than way
Source?
>So you admit you're retarded? You're trusting someone insanely mentally ill with a history of being a gaslighter that has motive to lie because Niji bad
and you're trusting Nijisanji, the company hated by absolutely everybody who's ever been able to escape, as well as everybody who's ever had the displeasure of working with them as an outsider.
>Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum
Yes, it's a common strategy. That's why Elira was fake crying to appeal to emotions, Vox sounded authoritative and dismissive, and Ike was the "rational" one, but he really just sounded like someone who didn't want to be there at all.

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>>73005506
>Raziel's Luca hit piece proved that the payments come from the member's pockets directly
Luca paying her directly when he wasn't supposed to isn't proof of proper procedure retard, in fact its the exact opposite
>Wrong, the person commissioning them is supposed to send the NDA. It's faster than way
That* way first of all, Second, Are you SERIOUSLY telling me talents are not only expected to do everything themselves for their projects but WRITE UP THEIR OWN NDAS FOR EACH THIRD PARTY THEY WORK WITH?, What in the everloving fuck is management even FOR at that point??
>Memoryholing the Neopets stream is a common Dokifag tactic
Oh you mean the one where she was hyperventilating and struggling to speak because of the stress she was under?, The one where she kept stuttering and speaking in circles as to not say anything self incriminating?, Yeah sure she was TOTALLY in a right state of mind and everything she was saying should be taken at face value, She DID release a statement by the way, The one she put out on twitter after she calmed down and spoke to her lawyer about what she should do
>You're trusting someone insanely mentally ill with a history of being a gaslighter that has motive to lie because Niji bad
>The stream was pre-recorded
Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum
She isn't insanely mentally ill, She isn't a gaslighter, She has and always WAS completely spotless and yabless within the company, She had NO history of lying or fucking anything up before, Also "has motive to lie because Niji bad" Fuck off she was their biggest shill and is STILL the only one not shitting on them after leaving, AFTER EVERYTHING, She was running subtle DEFENSES for them and didn't say a single negative thing about corpos during her vtuber advice stream, Jesus fucking christ
>Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum
They very obviously edited it together to make them look as sympathetic as possible retard, Elira's crocodile tears and the "fear" in her voice, Vox's "betrayed" voice, yeah it was all intentional, Also the part where they show screenshots from discord, Those were obviously edited in and not pulled up live like what the fuck are we talking about???

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>>73005158
>Doki says she had no intentions to do anything except move on
She never said that. Why must you lie? She said she ORIGINALLY had no intention of making anything public. She clearly did make things public. And having lawyers at the ready to threaten legal action against people doesn't sound like someone who just wants to be left alone. You faggots and your victim complex are unreal

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>>73005685
Really? Because sisters were crying about how Vox completely mogged her at first because Vox earned "so much more" before she shot past it.
You should be happy it was so successful! She raised that money for you, after all!

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>>73005809
They literally win by doing nothing, I don't even have to half the time lol

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>>73005609
>Retards still think nijisanji will still exist this time next year
kek

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>>73005756
wait, so you're saying she should have denied that she attempted to kill herself because it made nijisanji look bad?
She should've lied to save the face of the company that wanted her dead?

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>>73005609
>self proclaimed largest company and their cultish fans shit up the industry for years
>get shit on for being a tumor
oh nyo how could this happen?!

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>>73006007
>Stock price going down
>Win by doing nothing

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>>73006048
That's just how japs roll in these kinds of companies. No wonder so many go hikki.

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>>73005756
>Who the fuck was talking their address? Nijisanji said she was threatening to make her claims public if negotiations broke down then that's exactly what she did. Claim being "I was harassed to suicide in Nijisanji". They told you what would happen, it happened and now you're just denying that people already told you what would happen
Per the black box stream THEY SAID that the "document" that doki had contained elira's, enna's and millie's addresses, and a recording of vox taken without his consent, A document that doki never mentioned up until having to respond to them, The part about doki "making her claims public" was done IN RESPONSE to nijisanji's smearing termination letter, what was she supposed to just stay quiet and take it like sayu had to?, Accept the career ending smears they were throwing at her to make it so nobody would ever work with her again?, Fuck you

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>>73006058
But enough about Holo

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>>73005963
Lawsuits are public. If she actually took action, we'd know about it and be able to search them up. You're an idiot. She's made no attacks whatsoever towards anybody in Nijisanji. You know who did? Literally everybody else who left the company, but I don't see you making daily Quinn seethe threads calling his "nightmare" defamation.

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>>73005963
Please explain how she made anything public other then confirming that she tried to get them to let her graduate on neutral terms and that she did go to Niji about bullying?
Please explain how she made that public when the first mention of bullying or an attempt to take her life was brought up PUBLICLY by Niji in the termination notice.
Surely you have evidence to back this up right?

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>>73006141
Literal slave mentality, it's no wonder they still bow to washington

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>>73005963
>She said she ORIGINALLY had no intention of making anything public
Yeah and the reason she couldn't is because nijisanji fucking smeared her and fired her
>having lawyers at the ready to threaten legal action
Lawyers don't automatically mean legal action you third world retard, They were their to make sure she didn't incriminate herself in any of her statements and to help her legally negotiate a way out of her contract, NOBODY mentioned legal threats or actions, not once

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>>73006167
>Career ending smears
Bitch started throwing smears first with her "I tried killing myself cuz Niji bad." Fuck around find out.

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>>73006176
>t. newfag

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>>73006325
Actual ESL holy shit

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>>73006117
yagoo is probably hoping the stock crashes so he can buy it all back up and take the company private again, he is in it for the Idol Dream and has repeatedly told vulture investors to fuck off, Unlike riku who has pulled every trick in the book in order to inflate the stocks and yet they are STILL crashing down

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>>73006117
Ahmed, aren't you were supposed to be at the goat market right now?

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>>73006366
Show me what errors were made then Mr. English teacher. Fucking retard just cries ESL when he can't refute a point.

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>>73006423
Post outlet and hand

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>>73006325
The termination letter CAME OUT BEFORE HER "i will not be silenced" tweet you fucking timelooping illiterate fucktard

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>>73003203
I'm just saying I doubt there are many actual Nijisanji fans starting these threads. I mean I wasn't the biggest Selen fan and I see no reason to shit up the board with lies and bullshit.

Honestly, it feels like at about noon Australia time this site gets an influx of trolls and shitters in both directions. Like people can't wait to start trouble.

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>>73006391
Cope. Delicious cope.

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>>73006325
Please tell me where she smeared Niji the company or anyone specific in any of her statements. You do realize the Termination Letter came before any public statement right?
Surely you understand that unless you're a willing idiot right?

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>>73006444
Exactly. Yoj cry ESL and can't even point out the supposed mkstakes in the sentence. Retard has to cope because his stupidity has been exposed.

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>>73006423
Here let me carefully breakdown everything wrong with
>Bitch started throwing smears first with her "I tried killing myself cuz Niji bad." Fuck around find out.
She never threw any smears around, Her i will not be silenced tweet came out after the termination letter came out, "Fuck around and find out" is what happened to nijisanji after they fucked with their best talent, So i guess you got that part right

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>>73006423
The sentence has awkward flow structure indicative of not speaking it natively with other native speakers.
Also it's fucking retarded because the only people to publicize that she was hospitalized due to her mental state was Nijisanji itself. If they didn't fire her to paint her as the daughter of lucifer, she never would have had to clarify why she was hospitalized.

[Anonymous No.]

idk about the others, but Enna is a top-tier bitch. A lifelong bully with serious mental problems.

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>>73006448
And the career ending smears you were crying about came after Selen's tweet. Subhuman can't even get his argument straight.

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>>73006477
>t.

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>>73005887
>Luca said he specifically could not give her a contract or pay her properly because he'd be fired if he did.
Yeah and if you look at the screenshot, you can clearly see him paying her by labeling her work as commissions. You retard
>Source?
Her art stream from a month or two ago. Time to do your reps
>Don't trust overy thirty people because I don't like the company they work for
The mindset of children
>Yes, it's a common strategy
So in your ill mind, they decided to make Vox sound authoritative but included him stuttering. You're a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006528
Still don't see your hand and outlet, must have some reason to hide them but I wonder what.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006591
Which Selen tweet? the Skin walked tweet? The please Reupload the Cover tweet where niji later does in fact confirm management did take down the cover? Which tweet did she make to smear them woman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006554
Cope.
>>73006545
Ok, and? Termination letter said why she was fired. Are you implying a termination letter were "career ending smears" now, even though originally you were talking about the black stream? By that logic Hololive smeared Mel when they gave the reasons for her termination.

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>>73006464
Nijisisters are holed up in self-containment since they'll get prolapsed by everyone else, even in cucked sites like reddit. If it really is aussies, a great deterrant is lolis, since I recall it's literally illegal over there.

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>>73006591
>The career ending smears came after Selen's tweet
Uh no they didn't, They said she failed to pay artists and broke third party copyrights and all demanded unfair restitution IN THE TERMINATION LETTER which came B E F O R E her tweet, You fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.]

If Elira hadn’t posted that black screen shitshow and it was just Riku’s apology video, I think far more people would’ve moved on by now. And I’m a holofag. Vox pissed me off especially. This still doesn’t discount anything Sayu and Pomu said. OP is still a fucking nigger.

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>>73006048
So how come she was threatening to in the first place instead of just immediately doing it if she's so just? Surely if you catch someone committing a crime, you report them instead of threaten to report them in exchange for something. That is what you'd do, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006605
Nice family photo
>>73006679
Still haven't seen the mistakes in my English, giving a reason to show hand and outlet.

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>>73006325
You don't even have the sequence of events correct.

That's okay. It takes courage to admit you're wrong. You won't, though, and the board is amused by your efforts to make a compelling argument.

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>>73006738
Ok Hololive smeared Mel when they said why she was fired. That's your logic.

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>>73006167
>The part about doki "making her claims public" was done IN RESPONSE to nijisanji's smearing termination letter, what was she supposed to just stay quiet and take it like sayu had to?
You retards still can't explain how exposing multiple suicide attempts and pining it on people is in any way defending yourself. She didn't say anything in the notice was wrong and never even mentioned it. How the fuck is that considered a response?

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>>73006737
I don't think it's Aussies specifically, but Australia shares a timezone with most of Asia.

I just don't think it's Nijisanji fans. Maybe some of them are, who knows. I know I'm certainly sick of all the bullshit being blamed on "Nijisisters" like it's a goddamn witch hunt.

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>>73006727
>Ok, and? Termination letter said why she was fired. Are you implying a termination letter were "career ending smears" now, even though originally you were talking about the black stream? By that logic Hololive smeared Mel when they gave the reasons for her termination.
They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly failed to pay artists, She did not
They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly broke third party copyrights, again, She did not
They claimed she was going to go forward with a smear campaign against them and break her NDA in the process, SHE, DID, NOT
Not paying artists and breaking third party copyrights and breaking NDAs are HUGE Career ending accusations you fucking shit eating retard also this " even though originally you were talking about the black stream?" Is literally made up fanfiction, I was talking about both, and i was ALWAYS referring to the termination letter first and foremost

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>>73006727
>Cope.
With what? Doki's thriving and Nijisanji's "top talent" can barely touch half her numbers on a late night unadvertised guerilla zatsu stream. The entire english speaking world despises that company, not just the vtuber community. And all of the ex-talents except for that snake Quinn are performing FAR better and seem far happier than they were under that awful company.
I think you're the ones having to cope here, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006793
Sorry, goat trader-san. I know modern economics are a little hard for you to understand.

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>>73006767
See that's the thing almost everyone with a working brain agrees that the Riku Video being the last thing Niji ever brought up in regards to the situation would have been enough. It's just third worlders that think the black screen video was a required to clear Niji of any wrong doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>72986803
>Enna pedo deflection thread

Please tighten the noose, pagpag enjoyer

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006770
>So how come she was threatening to in the first place
Because she wasn't and never did?

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>>73006903
>She did not
Evidence?
>Because she said so
Fucking SEA sisters. Which gets us to the whole point of the fucking thread you are trying to avoid. Where is the evidence Enna is a bully. This goalposts shifting ends here.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this thread a time capsule from February?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006912
>>73006915
>Cover stock going down
>I-I'm not c-coping. G-goats!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006898
Please tell us who she blamed for the attempts. Please show where she named a singular member of Nijisanji as the cause.

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>>73006848
>Yagoo and A-chan retweet mel and talk about how hard working she was and how important her legacy to hololive was and always will be and how much they regret what happened
>They let her tweet on her mel account to say goodbye before terminating her
>The termination letter in itself just says mel broke NDAs and doesn't insult her character or smear her with easily proven lies
>Nijifaggots comflate the two because they have 39 IQ

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>>73006770
Do you have proof she was threatening to release them? Because she said specifically that she never intended to publicize the document you love to worry about.
>>73006848
No because they were so vague that people don't even know who or what she might have leaked NDA about, she still meets regularly with hololive talents who speak well of her, and her career seems to be going fine on her new(old) account. Compare this to Sayu immediately after her termination who was borderline suicidal and returned to numbers worse than before she even joined the damn company before taking into account the fact that she's still harassed by you cunts to this day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007032
>Farmer A starts with 32 goats in their public herd
>Farmer B starts with 12 goats, in their herd
>Farmer A, Despite buying more goats, lending goats, and cutting their herd of goats into two mini herds of goats, now only has 25 goats in their public herd
>Farmer B, Who still has some goats privately held in a pen on their property, Now has 24 goats
>Going from 12 goats to 24 is good
>Going from 32 goats to 25 is bad
>Each goat represents 100 yen in stockprice

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>>73006898
She never blamed any specific person for the attempts retard, She didn't dispute anything because she didn't need to, They were so blatantly false that everyone she ever worked with came out to dispute them FOR her, All she said was that she was moving on, And she did, end of story

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007032
Since when was Doki part of Cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006903
>They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly failed to pay artists, She did not
>>73004241
>They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly broke third party copyrights, again, She did not
If you forget about her resident evil perm fiasco, her fall guys tournament and many other times she fucked up perms, she never violated copyright!
>They claimed she was going to go forward with a smear campaign
And then she did. Nothing works better for a smear campaign than multiple suicide attempts and sad parents! She also started constantly bringing up her dog and how much she missed it.

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>>73006986
>Evidence?
All the artists and third party copyright holders coming out to say she paid them and she got permissions and it was all niji's fault?, there's the evidence
>Calling nijiAntis sisters while literally being a SEA Pagpag herself
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006986
You clearly don't use twitter because there were over a dozen artists claiming Selen was the one who paid them because the corpo didn't. I don't care what your opinion on the website is, it's there. Find it, you waste of chromosomes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007068
>Smear her with easily proven lies
>Has given no evidence they're lies
>Holofags deny the similarities because they have 39 IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007171
>>73007178
>A dozen nobodies claim Niji didn't pay them
SHOW ME. If anything this just goes as more evidence Doki would take on projects before getting managements approval.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006793
Nope, you're not going to post it because it'll prove you're brown and retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007073
>Do you have proof she was threatening to release them?
Release what? What the fuck are you talking about? I'll throw you a bone with the document though. It's in the Neopets stream you faggots love to forget didn't happen unless it's about Niji being mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007164
People like you are the reason victims don't want to share their stories. You'd probably say "she deserved to be raped" after seeing a bitch in slutty cosplay. The inferno is too kind for alley trash like you.

[Anonymous No.]

Kek the fact multiple people are actually arguing in this thread at all is proof that the Doki narrative is shifting and the bullying accusation is made-up psychotic shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007164
That image is arguing FOR Doki, not against her you twit. They're talking about how incompetent Nijisanji was and how Selen had to cover for their ass AGAIN. And on top of this, you're seriously saying how she should've just lied about trying to kill herself to save the face of the company that wanted her dead. You're disgusting.
>>73007183
>easily disproven lies
...what? are you okay? Have you been getting enough sleep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007271
Only brown and retarded person here is you for calling everything ESL and now you're seething because you've been exposed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007171
The proof of your lies is in this very thread. Artists didn't get paid on time, third party copyright holders weren't consulted about the video as it says in the contract they exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006986
Oh so you can provide evidence that she never payed any of the artists she's worked with?
Surely you can back up this claim?
>Evidence that Enna is a bully
See that's the neat part: the evidence is Elira saying the names of herself, Millie and Enna. Niji claimed that the Livers were the cause of the bullying. Simply by using common sense seeing as Doki never named anyone as the the source and the only reason we know about any bullying is because of Nijisanji, then the only people who were named in the document are the most likely suspects.
Funniest part is the only reason this is public is because of Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007344
False victimhood is another reason actual victims aren't believed lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007320

>>73005933

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007371
Exactly. I've seen people arguing it on the black stream comments too. This bitch is lying. Elira is coming back with receipts. Mark my words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007344
I don’t paint targets on my chest and go walking around a firing range. I’m NTA and Niji can get stuffed, but I still hate that mentality you’re spouting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007320
The neopets stream where she was clearly under distress and thus none of her statements would hold up in court? The neopets stream where she was having a mental breakdown on stream after being caught without a lawyer on the very first scheduled stream where Nijisanji knew when her stream would be and specifically moved a program a half hour back to match her stream starting late? That one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007371
I want to point out that she never said she was bullied. Nijisanji claimed that she said she was bullied.

If you believe them (that she said she was bullied), then you should give weight to their other claims. It's illogical to pick and choose facts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73006986
>Where is the evidence Enna is a bully.
She literally SAID that, she bullied kids all throughout school. She even gave us explicit examples when she randomly goes off on people who were just being nice to her. She has been a bully since childhood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007440
Selen naming them doesn't actually prove they're bullies, just that SHE PERCEIVED THEM AS BULLIES.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007476
>Exactly. I've seen people arguing it on the black stream comments too. This bitch is lying. Elira is coming back with receipts. Mark my words.
Yeah, two more weeks and she'll bring ALL the receipts. Now when the entire company's lost nearly its entire viewerbase and superchats have dried up faster than a fish in the desert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007440
>They were mentioned in a document I don't know the contents of
>They could have been mentioned for any number of reasons
>This proves they're bullies
Schizo speculation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007376
>That image is arguing FOR Doki
And it's also saying that Selen has shitty communications and paid her late. Which means Niji isn't lying. I also never said she lied about her suicide attempt, she did turn it into a weapon though. Like a highschool drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007267
>SHOW ME
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462?lang=en
https://twitter.com/LilyPichu/status/1754736476762640409
And a dozen others, Fucking kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007546
Are you aware of the contents, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007515
>She bullied someone ten years ago that means she was mean to Selen
Holy fucking schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007519
It doesn't have to. Nijisanji's response is all that's needed to show them harassing their employees, both past and by extension, current. Even the normies don't buy that bullshit. They SAW the Neopets stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007596
Kek. Lilypichu. Asking a twitch whore to cover a song over a tweet is legally different than getting legal permissions. Anyway, want to provide evidence that Enna is a bully instead of deflecting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007484
>Doki threatens to release the document publicly
>"It doesn't count because she's a menhera!"
Now you're taking a page from the NDF playbook? Did you get perms for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007639
Enna is a mentally fucked up person anon. She is fucked up. She bullies people, she bullies her own fans, that's part of her streams. Her fans are all submissive faggots who want a woman to bully them, that's her entire appeal.
She used to bully her coworkers too before the Secret GC stream, which made her finally stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007655
Yeah me too the same stream where she essentially shut down and started repeating the same line for about five minutes straight because Niji were calling her out on her shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>72986803
The only thing they did wrong was that they didn't vet their hires enough to make sure they are not hugh crazies. I mean, causing all that drama, all that emotional stress for your coworkers and fans for a shitty cover based on a shitty song. Why would you hire someone like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007371
>>73007476
>Kek the fact our timelooped brigading and dismissal of all proven facts again and again is a CLEAR sign we're winning!!!!
Kill yourself and you inbred kind pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

>>72992859
she really meant Soya duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007576
...No, it says specifically that they were expecting Nijisanji to give them a contract, and they did, but in late january, which was after the video was completed for over a month. They clearly fucked up the process and have a history of doing this as countless contractors have corroborated the same story. It's proof that Nijisanji is a complete shitshow that can't even be trusted to do basic tasks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007599
No, which is why I'm not claiming anyone as the bully, unlike you. Retarded schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007412
See >>73005499
Your turn retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007711
>Doki threatens to release the document publicly
SHE NEVER SAID THAT, All she said was that she was gonna consult her lawyer and issue a statement, Which SHE FUCKING DID

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007478
NTA but a decently-sized number of people think this way, and that's reality. It's fine to be skeptical of both sides, and it's in vogue to be skeptical of Doki recently since playing contrarian is funny for anons to farm reactions. None of it is genuine argumentation because an overwhelming majority agrees that it's likelier Niji fucked up more than Doki has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007714
>>73007711
I mean if you want to argue it you can, but literally every person in the western speaking world is still taking her side over this, and the numbers show who they find more trustworthy. Nijisanji has broken the west's trust for the last time, thank god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007710
So no proof other than your schizo delusions. I accept your concession.
>>73007791
Pagpags are retards who make assumptions with no evidence. Smart men clearly don't do that. Do you think Einstein would agree with you? Subhuman iq.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007844
You buy the organs’ claims at face value, though. You likewise have no answers but choose that your perception is favorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72986803
Raiding /vt/ because you are scared of a ghost. LOL BOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007706
>Receives the proof they asked for
>Dismisses it
>Deflects with a point nobody was talking about
Kekaroo, I accept your concession, I wasn't arguing about whether or not enna was a bully, I was arguing about whether or not doki was in the wrong, And she isn't, Fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007975
Weren't the sisters supposed to like Mint? After all, she's not Doki. Did they turn once they saw she might get better numbers without them again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007800
So the artist confirmed that Selen did fuck up payments and fucked up communication but you're ignoring that because they said Nijisanji bad? You faggots are delusional. Nijisanji does not directly get involved with people hired for commissions directly. The person responsible for handing over NDAs is the person commissioning them. Raziel's hit piece proved that Luca hired someone he described as a commissioner and that Nijisanji never spoke to her directly

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007946
>No evidence
Maybe if you are blind deaf and retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007967
Impartiality is not taking anyone's words at face value. I don't expect a worm like you understand such concepts. You just go along with whatever is trendy to feel better about your insignificant ass. The truth will always prevail. It may take years but it always prevails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008005
Give it a week, it might actually start happening. If Matara drags out a few more anti-Niji sentiments out of her, the hate will start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008027
>So the artist confirmed that Selen did fuck up payments and fucked up communication
Taking Machine Translation at face value and deliberately reading it wrong to extract he opposite meaning of what it was actually saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007854
Oh no! A liar! It's not like anyone can just look at the transcript for the stream and see how many times the term "document" is mentioned

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007987
>Deflects with a point nobody was talking about.
Retard this thread is about Enna and bullying. You've been Deflecting this whole time
>Receives proof they asked for
Isn't legal proof of anything retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008027
Luca also hasn't been punished for his blatant NDA breach, copyright violations, subcontracting out his work, false advertising, and harassment. I don't think Nijisanji's responses to him should be taken at face value since there's clear signs of favoritism.

[Anonymous No.]

>The n-narrative is shifting guys! We are winning! WINNING!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008005
They love her because she's pretty firmly in the Hanamori crew and won't be caught dead shilling for Doki. Maia is both Elira's best friend and Mint's mod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008047
>taking anyone's words at face value
AGAIN RETARD, WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF NIJI FUCKING LYING, STOP IGNORING IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008047
My skepticism reigns above your supposed impartiality. If you believe the truth falls in your court, that’s not impartial; you are clearly partisan by how you type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008112
OK, and she did. The twitter statement is a document. Did you think all documents had to be in pdf format?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008041
So where is the evidence then? A document nobody knows the contents of? Except you, who does know what the document is and it is a piece of paper that just says "Elira, Enna, Millie meanie poopie heads."

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't been her for a while, did the sisters ever acknowledge doki's numbers, did her !big popularity boost make them seethe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008047
>it may take years
Good good, that's smart. Already prepped for the "two more weeks" for years in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008047
Bud, I know that projectors are expensive, but isn't this far more labor intensive? I don't even get an image, just a description, and strangely with me as the villain instead of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008112
She mentions the document was signed to be private and NOT shared with anyone you fucking inbred mongoloid, She didn't say ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING IT PUBLIC, also she was in a panic because she was worried they leaked her personal fucking info, Which was IN the document

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008152
...And if you've paid any attention at all you'd know that that's not a big CCV drop from before the Selen fiasco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008213
they're seething in this very thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008153
Grim. I'll still hold my judgement until things cool down. Either way her content isn't my style so it wouldn't hurt too much to drop her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008137
You know subcontractors are allowed in Nijisanji mentioned in the contract, right? Luca didn't harass anyone and there is no false advertising as management gave Luca a signature before he even debuted. Faggots are reaching

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008152
Those numbers reflect the decline of covers stock. Good job "winning."
>>73008163
Ok. Niji lied. Where is the evidence Enna is a bully? Enna isn't Niji. Try again pagpag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008027
Selen's greatest sin is her recurring habit of not responding to emails, something that has continued to happen since her return to Doki.

But artists receiving NDAs with the wrong name in them and expecting payment for months, only for Doki to foot the bill personally, tells anyone with a functioning brain that there's incompetence in the management. How hard is it to get a NDA template and copypaste *artist name* into the blank fields?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008272
Why did his signature change drastically, then?

[Anonymous No.]

im begging you shitters what does this shitposting do? this isnt gonna save niggersanji, can you just watch them in peace and buy your chinese merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008187
>Clearly partisan by how you type
By saying that people have no evidence of the claim they make?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008239
On any given day all of them are sub 700 and half of them are sub 400, This was an abnormally good day for them, supas are still completely in the shitter tho regardless

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008317
It didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008272
Allowed with express permission from the company. Which it was acknowledged multiple times, Luca didn't have that permission. He tried to keep Raziel secret. Raziel herself tried to contact Niji to get something properly set up, and they ignored her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008335
>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008361
Proof?

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>>73008207
Yes, the one that Nijisanji claims was so dangerous that they immediately terminated her over and had Elira and Vox come up with a sob story about how Selen is evil to stop their numbers bleeding out the ass after the termination.
The one you sisters are still demanding she release despite her stating that she never had any intentions to, but you're outright demanding she release the "blackmail" you claim she has and that she's always said they were lying about. Maybe if they get desperate enough they'll leak it themselves just like before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008288
>This is the greatest day
>Ha ha Haa Ha ha Haa buuu dululup

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008317
Oh I see holocucks are trying to deflect now that they have been called out for not having evidence that Enna is a bully. Here's something for you to seethe over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008389
>Being so utterly buttfucked by logic and reason that you whip out the bot

I won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008382
Sister's are so dumb, they should just ask Vox and Elira to show them the documents. Maybe they would have because they are all a bunch of idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008335
Are you sure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008233
>"I guess I will be releasing these documents very soon. I prepared something , just in case but I was going to keep it quiet and keep it private"
So how exactly did she prepare a response to the stream before it even happened? Are we running with the psychic narrative now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008361
They didn't terminate her over the document. And why can't Selen be evil? Is she immune to criticism because she claimed to have made an attempt on her life? Your bias is showing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008395
>clearly the same penmanship
Wew lad

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008446
That isn't "Drastically" different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008288
>le cover stock
oh paki-chan, how many times do we have to bring out the goat analogy before you understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008419
I quoted Enna's tweets on the days of Selen & Pomu's letters? Did you think it was rambling lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008446
Deflection. Cope. Enna isn't a bully. You have no proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>TFW I play devil's advocate but start to unironically believe Niji were in the right

[Anonymous No.]

Do not let sisters shitting themselves distract that Sisters claimed Doki has publicly smeared Niji and when backed into a corner because they couldn't prove/they started claiming that the thread was about Enna being a bully and started begging for evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008395
Did you accidentally post this instead of Luca's ex gf signature?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008466
>If it's Holo it's ok
>If it's Niji it's fake
How about you just admit you're a retard who doesn't know what he is talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008447
They released a termination slander piece on her a week prior. She prepared things in defense after seeing the shit they did to Zaion. She's not an idiot, no matter how much you try to paint her as one. Her lawyer has more brains in him than the entirety of Nijisanji's legal team and staff combined.
>>73008452
She can't be evil because her record is spotless and the closest thing to "yabs" she ever had is overreaching for the sake of making her fans happy, or missing an email due to being overworked and being unable to hire assistants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008516
https://streamable.com/32zdvc

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008549
Go to the sister's doxxsite. Either their retarded rambling there will cure you, or you've found your new home. Good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008447
>Again taking anything she said as though she was fully sound of mind and not stressed the fuck out and panicking
God you fuckers really DO lack all emotional empathy, I hate asian culture so fucking much

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008452
Anyone can commit crimes and not one living person is without fault. The problem is in the lack of the patterned behavior being consistent with claims against her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008561
Look at the main subject and picture OF OP. It was clearly about Enna. You're the fags who were backed into a corner and now you're so desperate you're churning out two week old Luca signature drama.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys know if you spent even two percent of the effort you put into shitposting, into supporting the streamers instead, it would be much better for niggersajjer right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008339
But she doesn't know whether or not he had permission because she never spoke to any staff in Niji. She never said she went to Niji and asked for things to be set up. She said she emailed a manager about her being harassed by people she timed out and that they didn't respond then Luca told her to just let him handle it

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008549
>TFW i make up complete and utter nonsense

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008648
nijinigs don't care about the organs, only the company's honor matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008596
>>73008599
Pretening to understanding a online person's personal qualities and nature is schizophrenia and not proof of anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008653
If she didn't know she had permission, she didn't have permission. Isn't this the same logic you use when you call Selen a moron for the tournament perms problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008568
It’s more like that in your example, it’s clearly a single author.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCKING SISTERS YOU PUSSIES. GO BACK TO FAILING TO DISPROVE DOKI. I WANT TO SEE SOME TRULY INSANE NONSENSE FROM YOU FAGS. PUT SOME EFFORT INTO YOUR SHITPOSTS YOU LAZY CUNTS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008687
So isolating your gen mate is not bullying. Mmmm kay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008635
>Lack of patterned behavior
>Niji shows patterned behavior in termination letter
>Hurr that doesn't count

[Anonymous No.]

i gotta say, china's one child policy has been disastrous for the human race

[Anonymous No.]

dokifag arguments really just boil down to "It happened it's obvious trust me" "the company bullied her to death" and random cursing interspersed with "sister"

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008637
Only the OP image is Enna of. The Subject of the thread was initially and quote "So now that the dust has settled, taking into account the majority opinion of everyone who has left, Nijisanji basically did nothing wrong, right?"
Notice that once you Sisters are called out for being idiots you derailed the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008687
So you're calling her evil because... vibes? Because it's impossible for Nijisanji to be this overwhelmingly stupid, malicious, and mismanaged?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008715
>Grown women crying when coworkers don't want to talk to her
And this is proof of Enna bullying Selen, how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008474
>flat lines where curvature used to be
>essentially brutalized in it’s most recent adaptation
It’s not even a stylistic variation, it’s just an objectively lower quality of both cursive ability and shaping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008596
>She prepared things in defense after seeing the shit they did to Zaion.
It's funny you say that when the response directly talks about things said in the stream and that she said she was shocked that the other members were allowed to read it. What an insane prediction from her part on her knowing that Elira would complain about her location being alluded to and that Vox would talk about him being recorded while also not knowing what document they were even talking about. She's just insanely smart, guyz

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008758
It's more like "Anything that anycolor says that's clearly throwing somebody under the bus to protect themselves is a lie, so the truth is clearly the opposite due to their previous behavior."
but go off, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008773
I never said she was evil. That's a strawman. I'm just saying her words shouldn't be taken at face value just because she tried killing herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008758
bro Doki's side is literally NijisanjiEN Termination letter
>o btw even though she was hospitalized and we tried calling her, we found no evidence of bullying but we HAD to terminate her because of this private letter
Nigger the reason why Niji didn't go to court is because they would lose on day 1 and make her even more popular and very rich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008769
>Called out for being idiots.
Sounds like you guys, which is why you shifted to Luca

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008722
And ai remain skeptical given how practically no one not in Niji’s umbrella grants corroborating stories. Anykara has decided to cease all transparency, and I doubt that’s due to being immutably correct here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008873
Nice narrative and speculated reasons but there is no evidence for any of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008804
she was being fed the information through messages sent by someone else. How do you sisters always miss this obvious point? She took several hours to prepare and modify the statement, which is longer than Nijisanji took for the termination notice. They fucked themselves so hard that they had to walk back half their shit on twitter afterwards.
>>73008847
Yes, and Selen's pattern of behavior has shown her to be a trustworthy source throughout her several years of service. Meanwhile, Nijisanji has shown itself to be a malicious liar on several occasions to the point where they couldn't win a fucking defamation case in japan against a drama tuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008873
Attempting suicide and blaming it on Niji doesn't make it true. And again the stupid letter wasn't why she was fired. It's because she's dumb and didn't ask for song permissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT nijipags timeloop the same talking points from February

[Anonymous No.]

>>73004538
>>73007371
>>73008419
>>73008549
>>73008758
>>73008909
nice filenames

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008873
So if I attempt suicide and accuse someone of torturing me for three nights, that's proof I'm not lying? I didn't "but your honor , I was so upset I almost killed myself" flew as evidence in the court

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008936
>and blaming it on Niji
So you’re just making shit up now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008909
apparently the narrative is solid enough to have destroyed Nijisanji EN's reputation, so the pressure is on them to get that back now. If they have evidence to save themselves, where is it? They're the only one with something to gain here. Doki's got sponsorships, viewers, and donations out the ass while Nijisanji EN's floundering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008916
Your evidence of Nijisanji being a liar literally comes from other people who may or not be trustworthy. And again, just because Doki showed you a positive side of her persona on the internet doesn't make her immune to lying. That's why I've been saying this whole thread, provide evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

This nijinigger is samefagging so hard
Maybe he should calm down by watching Elira's recent streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008936
>Didn't ask for song permissions
https://twitter.com/LilyPichu/status/1754736476762640409 Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008936
She got permission directly from the original artist nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008948
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008793
O I see, you have absolutely no fucking clue about gens and vtubing in general. Just a very bad shit poster that is winging it. Lol well I can educate someone with baby level intellect.
Gen mates are suppose to co-operate little one, that requires communication. This is a primary source of information (which means it's an authoritative take of the event) that can only be derailed if one of the three accused dispute it that they did keep Nina in the loop. Instead of ostracizing her from gen collabs/ exposure/ events. Their job as per say.
Did it get too technical for wittle baby?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009004
Hey retard, we've been over this. Asking a twitch whore for permission over a tweet will not hold up in a court of law. You still have to get the proper paperwork, which i am assuming she didn't do. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008994
He needs a bit of Vox and Kotoka for good measure.

[Anonymous No.]

i sure hope you're at least getting your 7.50 from nigggersajjer for this effort youre putting in, itd be embarrassing doing this for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008988
Nah, the point for that is long gone. Nijisanji's the one on the back foot here and it's up to them to fix the mess they've gotten themselves into by not shutting the fuck up and letting the woman graduate quietly.
Doki does not need to prove a single thing at this point, as she already has the public opinion on her side due to Nijisanji's easily observable lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008916
>she was being fed the information through messages sent by someone else
The proof being in your ass because she didn't even know what they were reading. She took hours to respond because she ran to her lawyer to find out what actually happened because she didn't even know what was being read which is why Niji released that statement saying that they made sure no laws were broken despite rrats saying otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009043
>Gen mates are suppose to co-operate
Then why hasn't Kronii tweeted about Mumei for like a year? By your logic it's because she's a bully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009048
So Lily is lying then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009048
She didn't ask for permission over twitter. In fact, the manager's discord message didn't even talk about the song. Selen specifically asked them to check the e-mail to respond to the manager's perms request. You'd know this if you did any research at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008879
Here sisters are reacting to being called out >>72999785,>>73001629
Here is where sisters start demanding evidence about Enna being a bully >>73006986 when the chain was talking about smear campaign. Please keep up or be less obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009077
>I don't have to provide evidence for my claims because dramafags stirred up public sentiment for Doki
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009099
Hololive isn't Nijisanji that does obnoxious full gen collabs all the fucking time to milk their fan base. They are smarter at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009048
>muh permission
She's the original artist she's not going to sue

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009077
>The person who is making the accusations doesn't need proof because they already have a mob at their side!
Are you sure you faggots aren't Twitter tourists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009048
>Asking the Person who made the Song for permission and them Coming out as saying they gave permsision is some how not getting permission for the song

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009125
>Reasons for termination are smear campaign
We've already been over this faggot

[Anonymous No.]

Instead of autistically spazzing out the fag could at least concisely say in 1-2 sentences what she did to warrant the BLACK treatment from Niji. He's just throwing shit at the wall to pray it sticks

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009048
She didn't ask her "over a tweet", SHE SAID THAT SELEN GOT PERMISSIONS FROM HER BACK IN AUGUST OF 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009081
...Wait, are multi monitor setups not a thing in your country? Do you not understand the concept of windows or texting? Here in the west, our computers are powerful enough to run applications on two or more monitors. This is a common setup for streamers because they can have chat on a large vertical stream to keep track of without losing space on the main screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009155
>>73009171
>N-no your Honor, I asked for permission over a tweet s-so it's ok
Fucking SEA sisters don't understand how actual court works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009156
>The person who is making the accusations
Is nijisanji, Not selen, Nijisanji made all the accusations, They need to provide the proof

[Anonymous No.]

please. this will not make money for you or your streamers, how about you watch them or go do some work so you can fund their sexcapades, you DESPERATELY need to bump numbers up for the Q4 report, and they dont cover defense posts on 4chan in financial reports

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009222
Proof she asked over a tweet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008994
>It isn't possible more than one person thinks I'm a faggot. They must be the same guy
Keep on munching on crayons, kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009156
>>73009140
I mean... yes? She has her reputation to give her credibility, and Nijisanji has ITS reputation to take theirs away. Nijisanji is completely untrustworthy and even its own messages they cherry picked for "proof" show blatant mismanagement and incompetence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73007946
How about this example when some guy is nice to her and she just randomly tears into him and says nobody likes him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTnDX__w9aE&t=18368
5:06:08 -- 5:12:30

This is a clear example of Enna being a bully

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009222
You haven't posted hand and outlet yet :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009222
Source that permission was asked over a tweet? Surely you have evidence of this. it's not like we have the person who owns the song confirming they did in face give permission to use the song

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009222
>Repeating the same disproved lie again and again and again
She didn't "ask for permission over a tweet", SHE GOT PERMISSION BACK IN AUGUST 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009222
You keep assuming it was purely by a tweet because that’s your only “argument”, even though you cannot prove that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009222
anon, don't even pretend you live in a country civilised enough to have laws, let alone copyright laws

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009245
Have you seen Nijisanji's numbers lately? I'm not even convinced 2 people still watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009228
Did we need to talk about this again? Do you faggots not read? Just because you didn't see the accusations before Nijisanji talked about them doesn't mean they don't exist. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to see it, did the tree fall or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009245
Can you actually do >>73009198 without resorting to blatant samefagging or are you just a threadshitter who doesn't even care about what he's saying

[Anonymous No.]

>invent your own "truth"
>repeat said "truth" to make it real
sasuga nijizhangs

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009189
Notice how the posts calls out how sisters START ASKING for evidence for Enna being a bullying in the chain about the letter being a smear campaign.
Or are you just blind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009314
Yes, that's literally how it works. The person who talks first has to explain themselves and prove that what they're saying isn't full of shit.
Selen says that she never would have said anything publicly if they hadn't dragged her through the mud on her way out, and so far she hasn't. Nijisanji said complete trash, and nobody believes them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009314
> Just because you didn't see the accusations before Nijisanji talked about them doesn't mean they don't exist
Yes actually, Because them saying selen accused them privately IS IN AND OF ITSELF AN ACCUSATION RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009335
The irony of a dookieturd saying this loool

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009236
>>73009264
>>73009271
>>73009273
>Hurr u don't have evidence it was over tweet
But I was just doing the same thing you guys were doing? Making up claims without evidence. The argument was that because Lilypichu said so it was ok. SAID so. She didn't say she signed an NDA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009253
Damn, I guess that guy wasn't a rapist because he did charity work. And that guy is actually a serial killer because he shoplifted one time. Everyone knows reputations definitely matter in court

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009414
So you can’t prove your vehement claim?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009261
Kek. This cuck is still seething because his own ESL was exposed by not understanding a grammatically correct sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009414
what does an nda have to do with this, chink?

[Anonymous No.]

>RULES RULES RULES RULES RULES RULES
Corporate streaming was a massive fucking mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009409
>bug tears

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009459
Bitch you can't even prove your claim kekekekekek
>Inb4 doki and lilypichu said so it iz true

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009414
She also never said she didn't sign an NDA. Your WHOLE argument is that permissions were asked for over tweets. There for it's on YOU to provide evidence to back up your claim.
You have proof of course right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009476
I posted mine though, It would shut me up instantly and you'd win the argument if you posted it but you won't because it'll prove my point kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009414
So because she specifically didn't say she signed an NDA I shouldn't believe her? Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009518
>makes shit up
>HA you can't prove it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009414
Lilypichu is the person who owns the song... jesus fucking christ, I don't see any tweets where she gave permission back in AUGUST OF 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009414
NDA has nothing to do with copyright

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009478
>Artist crying about Niji not sending NDA
>SEA sister cries about NDA
Get your argument straight subhuman

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009361
>The person who talks first has to explain themselves and prove that what they're saying isn't full of shit.
Exactly and Selen talked first. Once again, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Glad you agree though
>>73009374
You faggots must be deprived of food and water for your brain to be this shriveled up. Saying someone accused you isn't an accusation, learn what accused means

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009520
>>73009533
>>73009535
>>73009541
>>73009556
>>73009559
>Hurr lilypichu say it on tweet so it iz duh true
Fucking retards.

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>>73009565
>Artists
>post chain is about the song owner and copyright holder giving the okay
Which is is Sea sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009590
>Accusing someone publicly of accusing you privately isn't an accusation
ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009518
>>73009601
Proof next thread? I do enjoy this timelooping, but it’s not exactly winning me over to the organs’ side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009601
Why would she lie you fucking retard? She gains nothing from lying

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009601
>>makes shit up
>>HA YOU CAN'T PROVE IT

[Anonymous No.]

This is literally like a supervillain rant

https://streamable.com/oq1cdc

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009601
>Lilypichu
Is the owner of the song, end of story, If you don't believe the copyright holder, You'll believe literally nobody and nothing, Keep sucking nijicock i guess retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009601
>I have no proof beyond going HURR SHE ONLY GOT PERMISSION IN A TWEET
concession accepted

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009646
catbox for archiving purposes

https://files.catbox.moe/sdszbb.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009590
>Selen talked first
Nijisanji released their termination letter before dokibird tweeted out anything about them you shit eating fucktard

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009205
This is some new cope. So apparently she was watching the stream and was just not responding to anything said in the stream and didn't even know which document they were reading. Funny

[Anonymous No.]

I'm at peace knowing that, no matter how much they shit up the board, Nijisanji continues to fail and Sisters' spiking blood pressure shortens their lifespans with each post.

[Anonymous No.]

HELLO LUCA

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009590
> just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen
That is exactly what it means, Otherwise i can easily say that enna elira and millie raped selen during their off collab, Just because YOU haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't happen, See how easy that is to say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009689
>Termination letter is posted first
>Doki responds after
>Subhuman Sea sister: DoKi TaLkEd FiRsT!
Lol lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009634
>>73009641
>>73009643
>>73009654
>She said it over a tweet so it's the same thing as an NDA or contract
>Niji says they don't have permission
>But dey do have duh permission duh Lilypichu say on duh twitter
Fucking retards crying about evidence but don't have any themselves. Prove that Niji indeed had permissions. And not just some dumb twitter whores words. Actual legal documents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009741
Another loop without proof it was solely via tweets, very compelling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009741
>>>Makes shit up
>>>HA take that you can't prove it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009703
>Cover stocks going down
Kek, you're aboard a sinking ship, you just don't know it. Phase will rise to the top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009741
>Niji says they don't have permission
ACTUALLY what they said was "Audio okay, We need permission on the VIDEO"

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009689
>Once again, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen
>>73009618
>Accuse:charge (someone) with an offense or crime.
Please tell me what crime is being charged against you if someone says you accused them of something

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009784
>>73009786
Diaprove Nijisanji without using tweets, because those don't hold up in a court of law in regards to copyright. You faggots can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009741
The only one making claims that permissions was given by the song owner over tweets is (you).
She is publicly admitting to having given permission back in 2022.
The ONLY claims that this wasn't done through proper channels is (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009788
>Cover stocks going down
Because the yen is crashing and EVERY stock is going down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009741
Sorry I will continue to believe the copyright holder over your shitty company

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009845
And you think Cover is going to be the only company that leaves this unscathed. Kek. Holocope

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009667
Selen literally said that her interaction with the copyright holder was
>Hey can I use your song
>What? Of course! Sure!
>Can you respond to the e-mail then so I can use it, please?
It was in her damn aftertalk stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009834
>Disprove nijisanji without using tweets
Okay i will disprove them using the black box video they uploaded where they SAID the "audio was okay" in regards to the video, and that selen needed permission for the Ex Livers appearing IN the video

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009646
Nah, this is more supervillain esque. She literally did exactly what she suggested someone should do if they were having problems at work

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009834
>>>>Makes shit up
>>>>NOW PROVE IT!
how many times are you gonna repeat that perms were supposedly given over a tweet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009834
Prove Nijisanji is correct without tweets because those don't hold up in court in regards to copyright. And here's the neat part you can't because by Nijisanji's own admission the Audio wasn't a problem it was the images that were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009858
>I don't have evidence to refute the company's claim but will continue to act like Dooki is right
Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009695
You can watch her eyes constantly drift off to the side before every sentence. I know you can't read, but are you blind, too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009877
Yagoo is probably salivating at the chance to buyback stocks and take the company private again, He actively tells shareholders to fuck off and just wants to run his Idol Dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009646
>tells her chat to have self-confidence
>LOOK AT THIS EVIL BITCH /vt/ ZOMG

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if this same energy will be kept for the next niji to leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009911
Did you not see the black box stream where in the DMs they show that the "audio was okay" and the only problem was the video itself?, For which selen didn't have """perms""" to the characters in the video (aka the other organs)

[Anonymous No.]

>>72989406
>Because she made them (Niji) shit on themselves,

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009931
That's yet ANOTHER time she talks about her "anger and hatred" overriding her supposed "social anxiety".

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009911
source: Nijifuckingsanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009912
Yeah because she's reading her chat, you retard. I guess every time a streamer looks somewhere else, they're actually just watching a movie on a different monitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009880
>Can you respond to the e-mail then so I can use it, please?
Fail to see an issue as unless anyone can prove that Lily DIDN'T respond to the e-mail. This would be enough. Not sure why people are harping on the Song when by Nijisanji's own admission the issue was the use of graduated livers and not the song it self

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009967
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009963
I don't care?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009952
Which makes no sense to me since Anycolor owns the rights to those characters anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009983
This entire thread is sisters timelooping easily disproven bullshit and lies in order to keep the argument going that selen/doki was evil and in the wrong and niji did everything right, Ignoring blatant reality in the process where it is inconvenient and repeatedly pulling lies out of their ass to loop again and again and again

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010021
because it doesn't make sense. They had storyboards months in advance. There's no world in which the perms weren't gotten as soon as they got the storyboards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009967
How the fuck did Luca avoid getting fired, but Selen gets fired for something so minor?
>Luca is sending pictures of Luxiem members without their consent of permission
>Luca announces who he is in VRChat to get attention for himself
>Luca gives away his accounts to a random person with no NDA (who later spills all the beans)
>Luca cheats at contests so he can feed his ego even more
>Luca abandons sponsorship streams because he "doesn't feel like it" so he can go play VRChat instead
How the fuck is Luca still employed, that's what I wanna know

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010021
They literally don't, read the fucking contract. You faggots are illiterate

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010041
I'm agreeing with you tho? unless I'm miss reading the intent here

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010069
Nijisanji doesn’t own their characters? Then they don’t need to keep the playbuttons either, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010096
I'm explaining what's going on in this thread anon, We are on the same page

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009990
In her earlier streams Enna absolutely did brag about bullying kids in school and claimed she jumped a girl on her way to school and beat the shit out of her, and stuff like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>73008909
If it was a nothing burger it should not have been mentioned in the Termination letter. Fuck, any half decent organization would think 'Hey, people don't need to know this shit' and leave it out. But Black Corpo gotta crush people when they can for the lulz

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010069
>Read the fucking contract
Not this fucking debunked horseshit again, You're REALLY gonna pull the "party b = third party" shit AGAIN?, fuck off you inbred nobody is buying that bullshit you illiterate monkey

[Anonymous No.]

sisters, i know your parents were disappointed that you weren't born a boy, and that under china's one child policy, they tried to hide your existence, and any attention you got from your parents was no that of love, but of begrudging duty to raise a child, and that this irreparably caused you great trauma growing up, but being retarded on the internet like men won't make you a boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009990
>>73010130
>>/vt/thread/S15745198

[Anonymous No.]

this is the fastest thread on the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010069
>anycolor doesn't own their own ip
wait, is this the whole "third party" shit again? For fuck's sake the organs are NOT a third party. They are Party B in every single circumstance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010047
Prove anyone in management got the storyboards. You faggots are running off of rrats sculpted out of pure lip service from retards online that don't even say what you're saying they said. Story boards were completed turns into

>NIJISANJI HAD STORY BOARDS DESPITE NOBODY SAYING THEY DID AND THEY DELIBERATELY FUCKED SELEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010069
Nijisanji steals your fucking computer and takes everything you used while working under them but SOMEHOW they split the rights to the fucking vtuber characters with ex-talents?, Get the fuck outta here

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010192
>brag about bullying kids
>"I was bullied a lot"
I knew my queen Enna was innocent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010130
Can confirm, did a week reps on Enna and she's just a shitty person. Lul chat, this bus driver was the fucking worst, you know what I mean chat? Sisters are all 'yeah that's right'. She hates her little step bro because she hates her dad. Bitch has issues and uses it as fuel for her vtubing. I double checked and yeah I was still watching youtube not Twitch. Could of fooled me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010215
>proof management had storyboards
are you serious? Are you seriously implying that Nijisanji, a two billion dollar company, is so incompetent that they'd miss out on getting fucking storyboards to guarantee the perms process would be done smoothly? Whose side are you on? You can't be thinking THIS little of them, right? Even the antis think more of them than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73003937
Wtf is this the third world marker?
t. power outlets look like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010197
I fucking love the wafting aroma of nijisister cunts, sorry. I’ll try to calm down and not post so feverishly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010256
She uses her victimhood complex to justify her shitty behavior to others. It's a common pattern with her. She always hypes up what a victim she is so she can say nasty stuff to other people and get away with it. Her fake victim narrative is one of the most annoying things about her

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010198
Who gives a shit? The fact is that Nijisanji needs permission from a third party to use shit and Selen didn't have permission yet. If you're gonna cope and say Nijisanji is lying, fucking prove it. You shit stains have just been claiming shit without evidence for the past three months

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010288
It's fun to watch them twist around and time loop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010269
anon Nijisisters have no concept of what management does, they can't visualize the creation process that occurs in business. All they know is how to suck metaphorical cocks. They glug glug and pay for the experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010269
So you have no proof. I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010303
No, that's literally not what it said. What it said was that Party B cannot use Party A's IP to attack or defame either party A or a third party that has granted party A access to use, like a collab, if you want to take it literally. The restrictions are ONLY on party B. Just like every single restriction in the entire contract. Party A has no restrictions at all at any time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010303
your mom needed your dad's permission to keep you and i can tell she didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010298
It's easier to just say "I was mistaken, I thought she claimed she bullied others but actually she was the victim of bullying"

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010215
Think about what you are saying retard, Let's say nijisanji really truly didn't have ANY idea what was in the last cup of coffee video until the last moment, that would mean the following
>They got signed permissions and notices for the cover from selen and lilypichu and had NDAs written out to all the artists without ever once checking with selen or the artists about the nature or contents of the video, Leaving the entire creative process up to selen until the very last moment without once inquiring with her as to it's contents in order to check and make sure they were allowed at literally any point since the start of the cover's production in august of 2022 up until the day it would RELEASE on december 25th 2023
If that is the narrative you are trying to convey, That paints nijisanji as the most worthless incompetent fucking corpo in the universe, who would EVER wanna work with them if they are that fucking inept??

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010378
She's told so many stories about bullying people it's ridiculous. That's literally her brand

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010373
fagoons are so fucking worthless lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010351
your concession is that the company is run by people who shouldn't even be running a grocery store, let alone a company. In this scenario, no company with half a brain would EVER want to work with them for any reason whatsoever because they'll just lose all of the papers. This is NOT better for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010249
Everything you just said proves you can't read. When the fuck did they say they were allowed to steal your shit and not that they're allowed to ask for the shit they lend to people back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010303
It's in their clauses that all assets of a livers IP is owned by Nijisanji. That's why even on Selen's termination they still sold her merch instead of immediately obsoleting it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010414
>fagoons are so fucking worthless lol
I'd say they're worth about 18 million dollars, considering that's what Nijisanji lost the instant they left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010430
They don't lend ANYTHING to the fucking talents retard, they get a one time budget ONLY if niji feels like it and they have to pay it back later, They OWN everything you use while working under them, that is what the contract says

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010430
They took Sayu's epic games account that she had before joining Nijisanji, including all games and microtransactions purchased on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010385
>>73010426
As was already said. Personal projects aren't the responsibility of Nijisanji management. It's the members project so it's their job, the management only exists to get perms and make sure the members don't start shitting the bed. You have no proof they're involved with the MV past getting perms and making sure people got paid. Just a whole lot of text to say fucking nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010414
they contribute more to a streamer than 4chan defense posts sister, im begging you, just watch one of those nijifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010385
It's great anon, we used a sister like this in order to highlight the Elira management rrat. Sister's think they can cancel everything out but never realized it puts emphasis on another point that was being discussed at the time. They did their best to save management 'Niji can't do no wrong' which put all the pressure on the livers as the guilty party. In the end we established occams razor since there should have been no way they obtained access to these files unless 1. someone in management was feeding this to them. 2. one of them was in a position of management

[Anonymous No.]

>>73009967
>>73010524

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010414
Irony coming from a Nijinigger lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010441
>It's in their clauses that all assets of a livers IP is owned by Nijisanji.
Except that's the opposite of what is said because they mentioned third parties having IP ownership. They also said the only reason Selen merch was still coming out is because she already gave permission for it prior. Maybe learn to read?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010524
If it's on management to get perms they didn't bother to check if they needed to get perms for former EN members or to see if anything could come up that required them to get perms for anything till the literal last minute?
Is management so hands off that they do basically nothing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010524
>You have no proof they're involved with the MV past getting perms and making sure people got paid.
Both things that we know they failed at?
>Personal projects aren't the responsibility of Nijisanji management.
They sure as shit are retard, Any and ALL activity done while working under a company is the responsibility OF THE FUCKING COMPANY

[Anonymous No.]

I can't see how a neutral party can sit here and think Dokifags have a stronger argument
It's all ad hominems and extremely emotional arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010060
Luca is simply too valuable to Kurosanji in these trying times considering he’s from Luxirem, plus he likely has someone covering for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010625
> third parties having IP ownership.
For brand deals and pop up cafes, Ex Livers don't become third parties when their contract ends, They are Party B

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010674
You put any random person in a room to review the time line of events which culminates into the shit show that was Elira black screen and Riku bows to foreigners and they'd laugh at how stupid of a company Niji is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010646
They didn't see the video up until Selen sent it to them last minute. If you're going to start believing what Nijisanji says, don't just start picking and choosing. How are they going to get perms on shit they haven't seen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010674
>a “neutral” party

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010674
No one believes your shitty company, Nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010674
I can't see how a neutral party can sit here and think nijifaggots have any argument at all
It's all lies and timelooped bullshit repeatedly disproven over and over again by hard evidence and facts

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010524
How are the members supposed to get perms then if management isn't involved? For fuck's sake she wasn't even allowed to put out her own schedules without okaying it by management. She's commented several times throughout her tenure how she can't even put anything on the schedule without their approval, which means she had approval for the video in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010733
>>73010745
>>73010754
>>73010756

You retards immediately rushed in to prove my point

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010625
>They also said the only reason Selen merch was still coming out is because she already gave permission for it prior.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>Source: The voices in my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010799
You have no point to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010740
storyboards. You can't even start drawing without sending them for permissions. Anybody who's ever even heard of the animation process knows this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLwOrBwxGFA

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010674
yeah, that's surely why the western world keeps spitting on Anykara kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010740
>They didn't see the video up until Selen sent it to them last minute
That is their fault for not being diligent, Any manager worth their fucking salt knows exactly what the talents under them are doing, The resources they are expending, The projects they are working on, How else are they supposed to MANAGE them if they don't know what they are MANAGING?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010799
>implying the Nijikek has a point to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010799
You need a brain to make an intellectual point.
I'll take in a way to make you understand
>HURRR DURR GURR ZZUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010799
>Covers self in shit and screeches like a monkey
>People call them out for being a shit stained monkey
>"Hah you proved my point"
ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010799
>my point is i'm sticking my head in the sand

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010855
>>73010845
>>73010835
>>73010823
You literally can't stop using "uh hurr durr retard you have no point no u you have no brain" ad hominem attacks, you're not proving your point and a good amoutn of the shit you say can be easily disproven

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010831
NONONONOOOOOOO DON'T MAKE ME LOOK BAD T_T

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010799
We've had them already. The neutral parties were the normies. They don't like Nijisanji.
>>73010800
Nijisanji was still selling selen merch after her termination. In your bizarre world, they'd be sued for that due to not owning the IP and not having permission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010740
This requires them to be completely hands off though. Why would they NOT check to see if they need more perms ahead of time? Why make more Future work for themselves that they can solve before it becomes a problem. Even if Selen didn't show them until the very last minute this requires them to not ONCE in the year the cover was in production to make any attempts to check to see if everything was on the up and up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010909
>amoutn
Retarded Nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010909
> a good amount of the shit you say can be easily disproven
Then disprove it instead of screeching like a shit skinned monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010909
You are getting mogged by 5 different people. I guess sister's are natural bukkake enjoyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010920
Drama-hungry vermin who don't know a thing about the situation are not a neutral party

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>>73010714
Prove that's what was being referred to in the contract and prove that Nijisanji is lying despite the contract being proof of what they said. It's also just extremely retarded that you're saying that the people who deal with Nijisanji are given rights to their IPs and now Niji needs a license to use it

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010909
>I can't see how a neutral party can sit here and think nijifaggots have any argument at all
>Ignores NijiEN's demolished PR and becoming the butt of indie chuubas' jokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010920
> In your bizarre world, they'd be sued for that due to not owning the IP and not having permission.
Uh no because i'm not the one making the retarded argument that doki owns any of the rights to selen tatsuki you fucking retard, Ex livers don't own or have any of the rights to the assets and IPs they operated as under nijisanji, They AREN'T THIRD FUCKING PARTIES

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>>73010956
Outnumbering us doesn't make your argument correct

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine believing a Niji manager who uses an off hand comment in order to control their liver to behave because they are too fucking lazy to do their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010960
no, that's the very definition of a third party. If they don't know anything about either side, and they pick one overwhelmingly, they were a third party who picked their side, in this case against you.

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>>73011034
Your argument being deny anything and everything when proven wrong doesn't make you right either sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011034
True, maybe you should go back to Nyfco and stay there

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011034
You don't have an argument though? If you did people would take it for granted and the issue wouldn't have to be a debate, just simple fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011034
>my argument is covering my eyes and ears

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011034
Then maybe you should go back to the doxxsite you hate. Even the sisters are getting second thoughts these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010831
Fucking retard. We already went over this. There is no evidence they were given storyboards
>>73010840
Wrong. It's Selen's fault for not getting perms for HER project beforehand. Managers manage entire waves, they don't have time to make sure Selens vanity project has perms when she should be the one asking

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine spending your days trying to spin past events and wishing everyone gets struck by dementia. What a pathetic existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73010981
>Prove that's what was being referred to in the contract
You're the one that made the claim, YOU prove they're referring to ex-talents as third parties when everything in the contract directs the talent to be Party B
>and prove that Nijisanji is lying despite the contract being proof of what they said.
Again the contract ISN'T proof of what they said because it doesn't say that except in delusional ESL illiterate fucktard brains like yours, They lied because elira didn't want selen to have her MV on christmas so they fucked her over out of jealousy and spite, Do you SERIOUSLY think they got pomu's permission for the MVs she was in?, Pomu who was in japan and a nervous fucking wreck nearly throwing up and trying to put the whole traumatizing ordeal behind her?, Yeah no it's a made up rule they put in to fuck selen over

[Anonymous No.]

This thread has made me sexually attracted to Nijisisters. They’re just so retarded...FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011163
>There is no evidence they were doing the bare minimum
>actually choosing to die on this hill

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011198
To be fair, I can understand your logic. Easily manipulableand can be put in their place by the simplest of actions.

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>>73011164
>You're the one that made the claim
Wrong. I said third parties are involved with their IP shit and that Nijisanji said graduated livers have rights, you said it was about brand deals despite nothing in the contract saying so and that Nijisanji is lying about how they operate. It's your job to prove they're lying about how the rules they wrote.
>Exposed to be a GURrat faggot
Tragic. Here I thought someone would give an actual argument. More emotional dribble

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>>73011163
>Wrong. It's Selen's fault for not getting perms for HER project beforehand.
She got the perms fucktard, Then they rug pulled her with bullshit about Ex-Livers that were never a problem either before or AFTER
>Managers manage entire waves,
Only because they are a skeleton crew of 7$ an hour college students
>they don't have time to make sure Selen's vanity project has perms when she should be the one asking
"Vanity Project" It was a tribute to the entire branch, A heartfelt one at that you shit eating worthless dreg of a sub-human inbred fucktard, And selen DID again, Get every relevant permission except for the "ex livers" bullshit that they made up out of the blue when nijisanji OWNS THE RIGHTS TO ALL EXISTING AND PREVIOUSLY EXISTING IPS

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>>73011198
Don't do it anon. There's a reason girls are cutest when they're ALMOST retarded. And most of them are ham planets... unless you're an architectchad that's into that, then more power to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011280
>Nijisanji said graduated livers have rights
They never said that

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011280
Can you educate us and tell us who the managers are for which gens?

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisisters should posts selfies of themselves so we'll be less mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011163
>Managers manage entire waves, they don't have time to make sure Selens vanity project has perms when she should be the one asking
weird. Hololive handles it just fine. Aren't nijisanji supposed to be better since their stock is higher? Why can't they do it despite their talents doing far less projects? What about Rosemi who got all the perms by the book for her 3D live but STILL got DMCA'd and had to private her vod and absolutely GUT her growth?

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>>73011223
Wiping someone's ass for them is apparently the bare minimum now. Should management also make sure they're eating and have a healthy sleep schedule? Should they play counselor for their personal relationships? This is what you're suggesting they should do if you're gonna say they should be constantly hovering over people's personal projects

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011280
Nijisanji never said former livers had ANY of the IP rights to third parties, Not once did they say that's how they operated, It's fair to assume "third parties" refer to other COMPANIES that use the IPs for promotions and brand deals because what the fuck else could it possibly be referring to?

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>>73011280
>Wrong. I said third parties are involved with their IP shit and that Nijisanji said graduated livers have rights, you said it was about brand deals despite nothing in the contract saying so and that Nijisanji is lying about how they operate. It's your job to prove they're lying about how the rules they wrote.
proof? can you show me exactly where in the contract it states that party b becomes a third party capable of influencing party a's usage of party a's ip upon termination of the contract?

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>>73011364
>she thinks checking storyboards every now and then to make sure perms are good is some colossal task

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>>73011364
Yes. That's literally what they do at every fucking other company. Their job is to MANAGE the talents so the talents can focus on PRODUCING the content that they are getting paid for you dunce. Your "managers" are apparently just tax collectors who get off on rugpulls.

[Anonymous No.]

Yep, dookieturds BTFO once again in this thread. I won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011364
NTA but Managers do a thing called scheduling you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.]

>I won
>while the company lost massive PR and money
KEKAROO

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>>73011364
>Should management also make sure they're eating and have a healthy sleep schedule?
Unironically this is what hololive managers do for their talents, And yeah they probably should cause what the fuck ELSE are talent managers for except for MANAGING THE FUCKING TALENTS
Also all this hyperbole in your argument fails to take into account the simple fact that, All we are asking the managers to do is keep up with this ONE SINGULAR PROJECT that was in the works for OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, Like seriously fucking mori calliope pumps out original songs and covers every other week and yet her manager seems to be able to keep up with her, This is ONE SONG after 1 and a half fucking years

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>>73011287
No evidence she had permission for the graduated members as per usual and there's no evidence they made it up. There's actually evidence they didn't in the contract, funny.
>>73011334
Termination notice, read it
>>73011365
>HOLOLIVE OUT OF NOWHERE

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>>73011446
Shut the fuck up you braindead mongoloidistic fucktard, The only ones getting BTFO'd here are the fucking sisters, Kill yourself pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011446
KEKADOODLEDOO nice fanfic

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>>73011493
>There's actually evidence they didn't in the contract, funny.
link it directly. give me the exact quote.
>Termination notice, read it
sure, give me the exact passage
>HOLOLIVE OUT OF NOWHERE
yes, nijisanji's big "rival" company that somehow manages to do the things that the incompetent team at nijisanji deems impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011364
>getting perms is now a too big of a task
Then what the fuck do they do then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011446
How Sad :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011493
>No evidence she had permission for the graduated members
It isn't something that should require permissions, It hasn't required permissions from ANY OTHER LIVER WHO FEATURES EX TALENTS IN THEIR MVS
> there's no evidence they made it up. There's actually evidence they didn't in the contract, funny.
There is no such evidence you mongoloid
>Termination notice, read it
??? where the fuck in the termination notice does it say talents have the rights to their IP afterwards, You'd think that would be a big deal, It's not fucking there and never was stop making bullshit up

[Anonymous No.]

Get shat on Niji loser like any other day ending in Y.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011379
It's actually not fair to assume that because the contract is about them and is about what they own and have IP rights for. They also said the graduated livers had rights that were being ignored in the termination notice. So you don't know what you're talking and you're making shit up to explain away you being wrong. There is no need to clarify that being sponsored by someone doesn't mean you own them now
>>73011400
The proof is Nijisanji saying so and they wrote the contract

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>>73011639
thursday doesn't end in y, fucktard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011669
>They also said the graduated livers had rights that were being ignored in the termination notice.
They never said this

[Anonymous No.]

Thread has my seal of approval

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011669
timestamps and links next thread? you have exact quotes from the sections of the contract and/or termination notice that state how the terminated or graduated organs still retain control of the IP?

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>>73011669
Nijisanji literally never said anything you are saying you fucking mongoloid, If they did, Show us, You're claiming all these things that literally have NEVER been brought up before in the entire 2 months since the termination letter came out, Where are all these big brain revelations that everyone but YOU seems to have missed?

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>>73011748
I refuse to take this bait no matter how tempting! Begone foul creature

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>>73011568
Read, you retard. The contract is in this thread. How much do you want to be fed? Ownership of rights. Termination notice mentioning that assets and works belonged to people affiliated with Anycolor and that being the graduated members.
>Hololive has people that can actually follow directions . This is proof Nijisanji is gay

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>>73011844
the ones that only apply to party b? Holy fuck. nowhere does it say that party a has to follow the restrictions, only party b
the people affiliated with anycolor are the organs period. they're blaming her for their own fucking ip

[Anonymous No.]

As a neutral party, I'm starting to come around on Nijisanji after reading this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011904
You're literally the same troll from earlier in the thread you shit eating fucktard, Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011904
Good. They desperately need the views. Drop them a pity supa if you can, while you're there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011791
>>73011795
Holy fuck, the Dokidrones are allergic to fucking reading
>Assets and works belonging to other affiliated livers "
Meaning they don't own it and the livers do. Do you need it translated to Arabic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011844
Screen cap the SPECIFIC clause in the contract that states Party B becomes Third Party after graduation/termination, Otherwise shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011904
>le neutral party faggot is back

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011947
Finana Ryugard is another affiliated Liver. Vox Akuma too.

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>>73011947
>>Assets and works belonging to other affiliated livers "
>Meaning they don't own it and the livers do.
"""Belonging""" Doesn't mean permanent IP ownership, It just means they are the IPs they are operating under WHILE THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT, It's like saying a company issued uniform "belongs" to employee A, It's employee A's uniform, But that doesn't mean employee A gets to keep it after they leave the company

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>>73011947
Ah yes I'm sure she can get the okay from Mysta and Nina. you know two graduated livers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011904
it's so exhausting seeing it, like all they can do is cuss you out, spout nonsequitirs, and not engage with any arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>73011889
It's in the first two articles of the ownership of rights section. How do you struggle with reading this bad?
>THIRD PARTY THAT HAS GRANTED PARTY A LICENSE TO USE

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012032
Stop samefagging mongoloid, Kill yourself, And your whole retarded kind, And stop using holos for your shitposts you nijifaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012039
yes, as in Code Geass or the cafes you dunce. They are PARTY B. Even after the contract terminates, they are Party B.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012032
>least obvious samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>the organs own their IPs, but not a single one gets to keep them because..
>they really don’t need those playbuttons, either..

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012070
>all they can do is cuss you out, spout nonsequitirs, and not engage with any arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012039
>THIRD PARTY
So not Party B, Which is what the fucking livers are

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012032
>samefaggot posting different chuuba images to fit in

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>>73011947
By Nijisanji's own admission the use of EX-NIJISANJI Livers was the issue.
Who owns the rights to Those EX-Nijisanji Livers.
because it sure as hell isn't Kuro or Matara

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>>73012031
What is this new form of cope? If assets and works belong to them, they own them. Otherwise it's just borrowing. Plus it's about people who left the company already so they aren't under the contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012081
They can have their play button and Reimu and Mysta both confirmed it

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>>73012032
>>73012095
>>73011904
What arguments do the nijifaggots have that hasn't been completely and utterly debunked 10 trillion times over the past 2 fucking months?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012133
>couldn’t even see the name on Reimu’s
>>>>Mysta
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012131
They're still party B and the usage of party a's ip is clearly outlined in the contract.

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>>73012133
>Reimu
Posted playbuttons of her PL account on her PL
>Mysta
You mean Kuro, Who was OH SO EXCITED that he got to "finally own the button himself"
Stop making up complete and utter bullshit challenge :IMPOSSIBLE

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012095
Have an actual argument then. So far it's been denying proof derailing about something else and derailing when presented proof of the contrary

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012138
They should just claim they’re retarded, as no one can fight that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012133
kuro said he's been waiting his whole life to get his playbutton...
weird for someone who allegedly had a gold one.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly? I'm a neutral party and I think I'm starting to see Nijisanji's point of view.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a neutral party and I'm honestly really starting to understand Anycolor's argument.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly? I'm a neutral party and I think I'm starting to see Nijisanji's point of view.

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>>73012197
Her two silver play buttons?

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>>73012071
Prove that's what they mean despite the notice saying otherwise. What you're saying isn't even proof that livers don't own shit either. Also party b isn't party b anymore once they leave the contract, you retard. They get a different contract entirely
>>73012108
This retard is saying Party B means ALL members. They aren't signing as a collective. Party B is specifically a single member and Party A is Nijisanji
>>73012124
But they said they own the rights and they wrote the contract so Mata and Kuro do own the rights. Unless you're saying they're lying in which you need proof

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>>73012342
Yeah just like how FWMC own 2 buttons retard

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly? I'm a neutral party and I think claiming to be a neutral party on repeat when losing an argument is idiotic

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly?, I'm a neutral party and i think nijisanji are a bunch of faggots and their supporters are sub-human vermin

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012342
Which she hid the names to and didn’t post it on her Niji-owned twitter account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012124
Post proof that any graduated liver owns the right to their Nijisanji selves. You keep claiming they do.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that the dust has settled, at the end of the day, after all is said and done, in the long run, ultimately, as neutral third parties, I think we can all agree that Nijisanji was right.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly? I'm a neutral party and I think both Frieren and Dungeon Meshi aren't your average MOEslop series

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, I'm a neutral party and nijifans are really winning me over.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly I'm a neutral party and i just wish nijisanji fans would shut the fuck up and stop harassing people constantly, It's making your livers look bad and they don't deserve it after all they've been through

[Anonymous No.]

>Resorted to spamming nijisanji was right after getting destroyed again
Sisters are masochists aren't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012417
>>73012374
Seethe more. You drones rely on shit with no evidence and emotional arguments because you're too retarded to actually think

[Anonymous No.]

>Dokifags absolutely mindbroken that people with no stake in this drama are starting to side with Nijisanji of all things instead of their an hero because they're so insufferable and sensitive
Can't believe it's come to this.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly as a third party i think enna allouette should kill herself to show dokibird how it's really done

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>>73012350
holy shit, you looping retard. That's the fucking point. They don't own anything. They are ALWAYS party b. no matter what. they are party b in their personal contract with nijisanji. It is not a collective name. Each organ is party b. give me explicit proof that nijisanji states that graduated organs retain any form of rights to restrict nijisanji from using their own ip

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012350
Post proof that any graduated liver owns the right to their Nijisanji selves. You keep claiming they do.
>>73012485
Post proof of your claims

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012184
You're a retard that is unironically arguing that even if someone leaves the contract, they still have to follow the contract. I guess anyone that got fired or quit still has to give Nijisanji a cut

[Anonymous No.]

>HOLOSEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012485
Honestly? I'm a third party and seeing nijisanji fans in this thread has really shown me how utterly worthless they are as human beings

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012536
That's literally article 28, you moron. You didn't read the contract.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone please end this thread. please just post cunny or something till the jannies kill it or we reach bump limit, For fucks sake i hate all of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012598
Thanks, love you, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012518
>Post proof
The proof is that they fucking said so and they wrote the contract, you retard.
>>73012516
Do you faggots unironically not know how to read or do you stick your head in the sand when evidence you're a retard pops up? Termination notice, go read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012598
I can't think of a good bait thread at this time of night to bump it off, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, Dragoons kinda got BTFO this thread desu. Your oshi is cool and Nijisanji is a black company, but you all got played pretty hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012505
>headcanon
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012652
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012480
>Resorted to spamming nijisanji was right after getting destroyed again
So, this gettingdestroyedagain,
is it in the room with us right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012628
so the proof is that you can't read english, got it. see you next seethe thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012628
Where is the contract then women? Site your source.
>>73012652
No matter how many times you post it the tears won't go way sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012652
>Dragoons
Nobody in this thread watches vtubers anon, Dragoons are jerking it to doki porn in /HAHA/ and everyone else is watching their livers, This is dramafaggot country

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012695
Explain your presence itt, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012505
>thinks the people spamming third party lines are actually new people and not us fucking around

[Anonymous No.]

>[Incomprehensible ad hom babbling]
Yup, Nijiwon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012679
After two months of pushing your narrative and failing you've resorted to violently shitting yourself.
Please sister you're embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012652
>he wrote this when Nijitroons are still seething about Doki months later

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012695
But current fagoons on 99.9% consist of dramafaggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012695
Hey, I'm jerking it to doki porn while I read this thread, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012652
I agree as a neutral party.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012763
Excellent choice, anon.
t. A Neutral Party

[Anonymous No.]

>73012730
>Only Doki fan's us ad hom attacks
Yep I'm thinking Sisters are brain damaged
>73012753
Don't you have a dying branch to pretend to support?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012753
As a neutral party who watches both Dokibird and Nijisanji EN's livers, I can agree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012741
>two months of pushing your narrative and failing you've resorted to violently shitting yourself
The projection levels... they are beyond any comprehensible limits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012559
You're a retard unironically arguing that Nijisanji can still get revenue from people that quit and that people who graduate still have to follow what actions are prohibited in the contract they left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012753
it's weird to call us fagoons considering almost all of us want to plow her smug fat chink ass until she can't walk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012890
Have you found an argument beyond deflection and easily disproven lies? No? Then back to your mud hut

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012907
yes, that's what a surviving clause is. l2legal

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012683
>Where is the contract then
In the thread, you ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012913
>it's weird to call us fagoons considering almost all of us want to plow her smug fat chink ass until she can't walk.
Yet the only available fat ass you'll be ever able to get is another fagoon's one. That's why you are called fagoons.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fagoon Fagoon
Someone here is repressed lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012933
>Have you found an argument beyond deflection and easily disproven lies
Has the one who haven't given any argument so far
>Then back to your mud hut
Post hand. Now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012992
fujosister... please spare them...

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012992
Still salty about Dragoons leaving and shitting your shithole called /NijiEN/? LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012723
Nah, I'm saying that seeing all those 'neutral party' comments really broke fagoons because they know deep down the narrative is shifting. Otherwise they wouldn't seethe and spam "as a neutral party" comments as a defense in order to dilute the effect, because the thought of it puts the fear of god in them. They've been on this hugbox so long they don't know that the general mindset of the vtubing sphere has changed. They lash out with poor arguments full of logical holes, which normally work since they're only ever arguing on this Pro-Doki echo chamber. But when confronted with actual questions wondering where the real evidence is, they start shrieking and throwing insults, since they know they don't have any hard, concrete evidence, just circumstantial rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013044
>>Fagoon Fagoon
>Someone here is repressed lmao
That's you official name /here/ though. It's always been, newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73012949
Even if your retardation is true, that doesn't disprove that graduated members don't get rights and we don't know what that contract says

[Anonymous No.]

So if Graduated livers own their Nijisanji Selves once they leave why have none of them used them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013126
>how to identify a Nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013119
sure, got any proof of that tide shifting and not Doki just getting more and more public support? Cuz these days she's getting more ccv t han the entirety of nijien combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>73013126
>That's your official name
Sister just because you invented a pet name for them doesn't mean you speak for the whole board lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013158
Uh, maybe they just need to fucking ask?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013112
>Still salty about Dragoons leaving
Not really. In reality, only a small fraction left. Doki's current audience is mostly holoniggers and dramaniggers. So I am not salty about literal subhumans and children watching her now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013156
yes it does because party b doesn't magically become a third party once the employment ends. They are still party b unless stated otherwise as in the rest of the contract. which doesn't matter because party a has no listed restrictions on their ip

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013119
Ah Yes I'm sure you've got evidence that public opinion has turned against her. Or did you mean /here/? Or did you mean the doxx site?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013119
>meanwhile she is doing collabs, getting invited to tournaments/events and having a lot of support
Sister...

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013162
>HOLOSEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013220
True. At least a good thing that came out of this is Doki stealing some of Holo's numbers in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013220
ok so where's nijisanji's audience then? cuz last I checked they're STILL bleeding subs. the drama's over, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013158
Because they need permission from Nijisanji just like Nijisanji needs permission from them. Learn how co-owner ship works

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013220
>subhumans
We are talking about Dragoons, not about Nijifans

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013212
Then what about the JP members? Or is this ONLY for En? something isn't right with that logic kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013261
Is she? I think she could end up being a great holo orbiter if she plays her cards right. She could be the EN Ui-mama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013260
>said the one posting on an actual NIJISEETHE thread
????

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013279
Of course there’s no logic to it, the NDF have no answer for it save for deflection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013228
Read the contract, you retard. Article 4 proves that agreements exist and we have never seen the graduation contract that Nina and Mysta got. The contract also says they need permission from third parties while talking about their IP. Your inability to read is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.]

>almost 700 posts
This is quite a lot more seething than usual from the Nijisisters. What happened this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013264
Those are dead subs, anon. They basically never watched them, because they are just holonigs who subbed to them at the very beginning.
Want proof? Just look at the pattern of sub losses. The biggest loss is for the oldest waves which got the biggest exposure to holonigs at the very beginning. Latest waves have little to no sub loss, because no holonigs there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013384
Another ex-Niji is doing better than when she was on their company
Expect the same is for some reason Rosemi does the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013384
Not sure what's got sisters in a bad mood this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013381
no it specifically outlines restrictions for party b, not party a. read harder.
>>73013425
dead subs can't unsub. That's a manual action. It also means that they're not gaining new subs to offset the loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013432
And that Ex-Niji is on team pretend Doki doesn't exist proving that she's full of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013425
>literal day one members unsubscribing from Elira

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013275
>We are talking about Dragoons, not about Nijifans
Do you have a reading impairment? I was particularly mentioning holoniggers and dramaniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013435
>>73013384
mint came back. she seems really, really traumatized and isn't even sure if she's going to keep streaming after the matara podcast is over. That's how fucking bad Nijisanji fucked up her self confidence.

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>>73013384
If you actually read through the thread, you'd see it's a few comments questioning the full authenticity of Doki's statements, followed by ten apes flinging shit for daring to think independently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013453
>no it specifically outlines restrictions for party b, not party a. read harder.
>Third party that has granted Party A license to use
Sounds like a restriction to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013494
Seems like you are proyecting, Nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>73013499
and it doesn't matter what she said because people can judge nijisanji being shit just off of the things explicitly stated and actions done by nijisanji. and they have.

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>>73013425
Dead subs can't unsub. Those were active subs and the dead subs stuck around.
>73013499
>for daring to think independently
Lol lmao is that what you call it?

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>>73013432
>Another ex-Niji
I forgot about that kek. I bet it's Luca seething again /here/.