/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

so now that the dust is settled... why did he leave?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
>niji deflection thread
>gura deflection thread
nice try, homobegger

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
he had a mental breakdown in japan and probably got fired for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
>retard joined an idol company without wanting to do idolshit
>retard joined a jap company with known perm problems and goes menhera over perms

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904647
but enough about Sana

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>>72904499
>pretended to be Gura to get Free factorio codes
>told his manager to fuck off
>is Laplus' boyfriend and keeps inviting her to Valorant games when she's supposed to stream
>wore a sheet over his head and pretended to be a ghost to scare the shit out of Chloe
>sells Mori her Xanax, lean, alcohol and fastfood
>hacked Rushia's discord during the GTA collab with Miko
>is the Japanese drama tuber that Rushia contacted and lied about her leaking confidential information
>hacked Towa's discord and was the male voice on her stream
>opened the door behind Matsuri and accidentally showed his hand onstream
>is the host that blackmailed Matsuri
>was Mel's manager and sexually harassed her
>fingerbanged Ollie onstream
>set fire to Subaru's house
>orchestrated the trash taste collab
>Connor and Veibae's statements about hololive were written by him
>is the reason for Nene, Laplus and Shion's depressions
>photoshopped Luna out of the holofes poster when nobody was looking
>spoke perfect Cantonese and perfectly impersonated Bae's mother onstream
>keeps spiking Ame's food with bread
>convinced Pekora to buy a monkey
>dug the hole in minecraft
>injected Ina with the vax and gave her heart disease
>broke Luna's neck during the VR horror stream
>ripped a fat shart during Mori's stream
>gave Kronii books about woke gender shit during her childhood
>built Bae's cuckshed
>damaged Suisei and Marine's voices
>is the reason why Aqua, Shion and Ayame barely stream
>sent anti messages to Iofi after the among us collab
>made kobo eat literal shit
>traced Nene's drawing
>forces cover to sell acrylic stands
>drugged Mori right before meme review
>gave Mio food poisoning and made her puke onstream multiple times
>runs the Argentinian central bank and is responsible for ARS superchats
>intercepted Flare, Nene and Irys' initial designs and replaced them with designs he made
>coded the YouTube analytics page to list Taiwan
>is the shadow president of Taiwan
>simultaneously runs the Chinese anti botfarms
>managed HoloCN and is responsible for every bad decision they made causing the entire branch to get fired, including watching wolf warrior onstream
>ordered Russia to invade Ukraine so Russian fans couldn't donate to Botan any longer
>Killed Fauna's cat, Noel's hamster, Sana's dog and Roboco's cat
>told Mori's sister about the airBNB and suggested the "rager"
>fed boner pills to every dude at the houseparty and told them where Gura was hiding, told Mori she was up to "shenanigans"
>added himself as a friend on Gura and Irys' switch accounts
>is singlehandedly responsible for every orange woman bad post, ran the eggcord
>convinced Miko that Pekora would totally enjoy it if she initiated sex with her out of nowhere without asking during their sleepover
>is the CEO of Capcom and caused the holocaust by deciding to copyright strike Mio for playing some decade old DS game, requiring permissions for games ever since (also caused the real holocaust)
>planted the Reine dox pictures in Ollie's image folder
>infected Kanata with her ear disease
>got Choco and Kiara shadowbanned
>told Susan to crack down on lewd content
>tweeted out all the anti tweets that made Huke cancel the Kiara minecraft collab
>Fired Shinove
>Forced Kira, Suzaku and Kaoru to graduate
>Hired Hitomi Chris
>gave Hitom Chris her equipment in return for sexual favors
>Graduated Hitomi Chris
>is Aloe's father
>leaked Aloe's private stream
>pretended to be Nijisanji fans and anti'd her until she graduated
>convinced Ame, Kronii and Ina to Collab with tempus, still trying to convince the rest of EN/JP
>hired Tempus
>hired Mori
>raped every single member of Hololive in front of Yagoo while doing lines of coke off his dick and suckerpunching Sora

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>>72904499
A mentally unwell indivdual with anxiety issues that doesnt like being around people much being asked to sing and dance on stage in front of thousands despite very little training right next to people that can? Its a mystery

Just to note. I dont blame him and Magni for what happened. I put it all on Omega. We could look at Roberu being a nice harmless meme for years and see inhereantly there is no problen with Holostars its just when Management wants a Niji branch based on one managers high school fanfics you run into problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
And he did it all in just over a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
he's kinda... kinda based ngl

[Anonymous No.]

He's a male Vtuber. Of course he's a faggy manchild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
he's just a little guy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Mental illness

[Anonymous No.]

he was too based

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>>72904499
He applied for a job he didn't really understand nor did he want to do what the job demanded of him. In the end he left and all his legacy is Yabba Dabba Do posting and a daily thread willed with furries and gay people.

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>>72904728
you forgot that he impregnated Kronii's best friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
he was more menhera and mentally weaker than women in Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905062
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING!

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
wow so unhinged!

[Anonymous No.]

He thought he could force himself on girls who wanted nothing to with him or Magni. If his viewership was higher and it wasn't shit compared to the amount of headaches he caused he probably would still be apart of cover Corp. He should consider himself lucky that none of the girls publicly undressed him like the girl who pulled out the dirty laundry that Luca from niji has. He's lucky that false who deleted the vod of him basically saying he is contact with vesper and leaked internal protocols for what a vtuber gets in cover Corp before debut is on his side when it came to his removal from cover corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
>told FWMC finding an apartment in Japan would be easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
kek

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>>72904499
he was a faggot, just like every male vtuber

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>>72904773
Then why tf did he even apply in the first place? Actual retardation?

[Anonymous No.]

>Assume HoloEN will be normal and not have a bunch of insane unicorns that put JP's unicorns to shame
>They have insane unicorns

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>>72904773
/thread

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>>72904728
lmao bas—
>Forced Kira, Suzaku and Kaoru to graduate
FUUUUUCK I MISS KIRA
THIS IS UNFORGIVABLE

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>>72904499
Anon the dust hasn't simply settled, it has recompacted into a fucking rock by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905349
Thought it was easy money without many obligations, like a lot of people think

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>>72904842
/thread

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>>72905349
Either that or just applying with the idea to ditch it if wasn't what he wanted. He's a manchild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905349
Unironic retarded 40 year old manchild

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>>72905395
Are those unicorns in the room with us right now, anon?

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>>72905532
The only obligation is idol shit, stream every now and then to keep memberships alive, and shill merch/events when something drops. See Gura for example, she's living the life

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>>72905630
He’s just like me fr fr

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905730
A lot more than the usual NEET that only wants to play games has to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Seemed like he didn’t like Japanese corpo autism and just wanted to stream, seems like he’s pretty happy nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905493
Kira Kira Koseki?

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>>72905730
Now you see why he's retarded. Apply for idol company then leave when they made you do idol stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905684
Yes, in this very thread even.
You probably just didn't notice because you're one of them.

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>>72905349
Probably because even a year in Hololive netted him a truckload of Jewgold NEETBOX and Holocoins that will set him up for life if managed well that getting 80 CCV as an Orctuber couldnt hope to match. Now he gets like 500 CCV and still wont ever need to work

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>>72905920
So a retard

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>>72904728
Based as fuck
I kneel to the bit-king of HoloPro

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904842
>he's a male of course he's a manchild
ftfy

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>>72904773
>A mentally unwell indivdual with anxiety issues that doesnt like being around people much being asked to sing and dance on stage in front of thousands despite very little training right next to people that can? Its a mystery
I don't buy this shit. No way he's more autistic than the girls, like Gura, Ame, or Mumei. He did something really bad behind the scenes, so bad that he gets mad at NotMagni whenever he hints anything about their time in StarsEN

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>>72905268
>He thought he could force himself on girls
He's a fudge packer
A taint tickler
A queer eye IT guy
A vamp

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906087
Conrrection a RETIRED loaded retard that will be going to McDonalds without a second thought toay....YAY MCDONALDS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906169
So true, sister.

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>>72906195
The reaction to socially anxious nervous girls is to want to cuddle and protect them. The reaction to a male like that is to call him a faggot and tell him to man up.

As it should be

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>>72906195
He's older than all of them, that's the difference. The girls were just conditioned to shut up and do their reps, it helps that they can kinda sing while he can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906258
>tranny pretending to be a male
grim

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>>72906195
He literally spazzed out because he couldn't get weed in japan so avoided all contact with his genmates while there. Girls are naturally menhara but autistic men take it to another level.

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>>72904721
It's exactly the same as Sana, he didn't wanted to do other activities aside his main thing. For Sana was art, for Vesper was streaming. No singing, no MV, no events, etc
It's just as simple as that

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>>72906415
Hey babe what containment breaker linked you here

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>>72904499
he's a little bitch who can't handle the mildest of pushbacks

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>>72904499
He couldn't take his weed to Japan nor could he get it there, so he had a breakdown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906442
Sana doesn't want to draw on her holo streams at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906521
Magni Dezmond

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>>72906638
Every pothead I know is a huge fucking man baby who whines about everything and has a super short fuse.

[Anonymous No.]

Because he's an asshole. He was always an asshole but people thought he was 'based'. Everything good anyone remembers about Vesper is from debut up till his suspension, and that happened because he couldn't stop himself from being a gigantic rage baby to his manager over game perms.

Dude was unprofessional as fuck too (ghosted his manager/didn't turn in work on time constantly; fucked off the weekend Altare and Magni had an off collab leaving Axel as the only member available to stream; ditched their 6th month anniversary, never apologized for it publicly, and then shoved the most quarter-assed "sorry not sorry" in his T3 membership; barely did anything after that involving his branch; started fucking taunting the Live side just to be a dick). I'm glad he's fucking gone.

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>>72906731
Dead men tell no tales, sweet cheeks

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>>72906743
this but unironically, irl the only people I know who aggressively beg you for money more than potheads are xan addicts

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904555
>muh gura deflection thread
nice try phasekek

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>>72904728
All of it was for the bit.

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>>72906673
Doing art w/o streaming it or streaming at all is all what she does since she was back on her PL.
She works making official art for certian game, and she gets paid a lot for it.

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>>72906442
I can understand Sana because she's a professional artist working with big companies, while faggot could've kept streaming in his own corner without ever needing to apply to a corpo

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>>72906760
>Live side
You were so close

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>>72906999
Magni told him to quit because he's legit a bigger menhera than greenman.

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>>72907139
They're fucking each other in the ass now so I'd say it's a match made in heaven

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>>72904728
you forgot that he also made Keala OD on coffee to have cronic GERD that needs regular check ups and forced Kaela to use her food money to LoL

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>>72904499
rest in piss. /MANS/ is a dead thread now. Objectively speaking, the most yab holoproEN chuuba of all time. The worst hiring ever. The catalog and vtubing in general are miles better once all the vespissies decided to an hero.

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>>72906743
Most potheads ive known are just unambitous layabouts who talk about how much the system fucks with them for smoking weed and its why they cant get ahead in life. Ya know despite being able to stop smoking to pass a drug test for a better job

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>>72904499
contract wasnt paying enough.

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>>72906826
You need to be over 18 to post here

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>>72905915
Remember to rope, retard.

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>>72904499
Did you miss him after seeing the kino greenman stream? Me too..

[Anonymous No.]

>>72907221
It was never the same after the butt baby debacle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
>plow Kronii
>she was mid
>leave
Simple as

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>>72905053
He didn't hire himself, you know. Nice casting you have there Cover, keep up with hiring lefties for their beliefs instead of doing your work with background checking.

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>>72904499
Why does this Randon fag even have a thread? It's just people posting drawings, no one ever talks about his streams there, I even see it die without even reaching the bump limit

[Anonymous No.]

A vespiss classic.

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>>72904499
he lost it when he couldn't take his weed with him to japan

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>>72904499
kronii wanted to keep it
he left
kronii aborted.

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>>72906195
He admitted on his return stream after his suspension that he had anger issues.

He probably went ballistic on Omega and Magfag seized the opportunity to get out as well.

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>>72909211
kek

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>>72904499
Vesper and Magni got vtuber models they didn't like so they had sympathy for Kronii that got stuck with a coomerbait model. After getting their model redesigns they got into a fight with management and were fired. That is why their "graduations" were unexpected and Cover had to delay the Tempus anniversary to remove them from the group merch.

[Anonymous No.]

He was a lazy whore who didn't want to sing or dance.

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>>72910419
Timeline doesn't match up, Omega likely fucked off sometime shortly after December 2022 (probably January 2023?). Plus it seems very likely Omega was actually their big ally and advocate, they probably lost a lot of "pull" when he was deposed for botching everything so badly.
The month break before the graduation announcement seems like contract negotiations to me. I'm guessing they wanted more money, or some sort of special privileges (not having to do 3d?), or both, and got told no. Combine that with falling popularity, increasing controversy with the Hololive fanbase, and the impending debut of EN talents that they presumably knew were going to totally ignore them, and they decided to leave.
Orc doesn't seem to regret leaving but NotMagni apparently has a ton of hang-ups about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
react content hort

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>>72904499
He and Magni slapped Roberu in front of YAGOO and called him a magging nigger.

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>>72904499
His boyfriend told him to and he was tired of Nijisanji Kindred and mentally ill Krocucks seething at him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906423
>weed
Adderall*

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>>72909077
Its Randon astroturfing, I think of it as a containment and so should you.

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>>72909077
He was revealed to be lurking in /MANS/ while he was in holostars, so I wouldn't be surprised if oftentimes it's just self bump.

[Anonymous No.]

A year after they've graduated and you faggots are still whining about him lmao. Everything lives free in the Holofag's mind, from Nijisanji, to Phase, to Homostars.

[Anonymous No.]

He wanted to stream, but he didn't wanted to do
Gen collabs (any kind)
Singing
MV videos
And with the limitations that jap corpo, plus his anger and frustration issues, not a very good combo.
When Magni had his menhera outbreak (because he wanted to fleshstream again thinking he could grab his holo buff like the numbers were for his "talent", that's also why he's still seething so much), Vesper just jumped into the ship to get out. At least he's not seething like Magni, kek

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>>72909211
Fake

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>>72911239
That's sounds more like a fanfic of yours anon.

[Anonymous No.]

because magni left and magni was being an impatient diva.

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>>72912793
well I said it was a guess. seems fairly plausible to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Likely just disagreements with management at the time, and him just not being a good fit. That said, he isn't being vindictive and I'm glad that we're able to continue following him into his current endeavors.

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>>72912739
i was a regular member. it is 100 percent real and i fucking hated his guts after reading it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72912974
>he isn't being vindictive
this surprises me considering how bitchy magni got after he left

[Anonymous No.]

>>72909211
>>72913094
Vesper seems to have taken this in stride. Can't speak for Magni. But at the very least this isn't Niji levels of seethe.

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>>72913031
Nice try but that post allegedly made behind the tier 5 paywall or some shit, no 'regular' member exists here to confirm it

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Couldn't handle the heat

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>>72908476
So you agree with me then because nothing in your post disagrees or denies what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Unicorns really do be winning the invisible war

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>>72912488
Don't forget about his perms autism, especially when you see the games he's played since. Disco Elysium is a good game but it's heavily political and Fear and Hunger has a ton of rape and penises everywhere. Yes there's a censorship mod but rape is still heavily implied and you still get messages like 'your anus is bleeding'.

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>>72913319
Magni knew they were taking a risk to help Kronii but that if management has been less angry they could have talked everything out. He does have reason to be angry that a discussion over a model redesign somehow led to a double termination. That he can't even give his side of the story while unicorns can make up any negative stories they want does make the situation extremely unfair.

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>>72915436
Those faggots did not help kronii in any way. They torpedoed her career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72912416
This board still brings up Rushia and Sana, they're not special

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>>72904499
sexpest menhera chased out

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>>72913906
Most of his member posts were for tier 3 actually and you can check the archives to find some of them, including this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Management fucked him over.
This the true, real, honest answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72915588
>woman can't keep her tits contained
>men at fault

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>>72904499
the stars talked about how their expectation for success was around 100 ccv but i dont buy it tbdesu. i imagine all of them except ragus expected to be the next huge thing on the block because they misinterpreted wannabe holostars pestering cover for a male gen for stars fans that would watch streams
grandpa realized he wasnt vtuber jesus and they wanted him to actually do idolshit and paperworkshit and bounced

[Anonymous No.]

Interesting timing for this to get posted kek
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xwRl_ukvBWo

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>>72904499
>>72917087
Apparently he couldn't handle some paperwork kek

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>>72907126
>started taunting the fanbase of the EN girls in a trashy move because he's a fucking dick and everyone but him would end up getting heat for it

Fixed, good now?

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>>72904773
How the fuck do you not blame them?
How was it a mystery as to what they are signing up for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72917730
>cant handle paperwork
Heh, even Nijisanji gave Luxiem dommy mommy slaves for that. Shows the difference between the two companies.

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>>72906195
Because the girls can suck it up and act normal when they have to.

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>>72913031
This. I stopped watching him because he kept intentionally antagonizing people. Holopro isn't Nijisanji, and I feel he didn't realize that fact until it was too late.
For better or worse though both him and Magni became the driving force behind stopping and separating Hololive and HoloStars for EN again.

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>>72918136
Have you seen Lucas sisters? They're retarded, they'll forgive anything because they're too stupid.

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>>72907340
>/MANS/ is a dead thread

That's a funny way to spell /orc/ considering like 90% of that thread is just uggo drawings and 10% dead memes.

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>>72905684
I think we need an ouija board. Maybe a seance to help conjure up a unicorn or two.

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>>72915436
A question if you wouldn't mind. Did Magni and Vesper help Kronii with the collabs and such or is it more behind the scenes stuff?

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>>72920581
>Did Magni and Vesper help Kronii
No.
Those collabs were all asked for by Magni and Vesper because Kronii had a policy of "accept but don't ask" for that sort of thing. It's why Kronii, Ame, and Mori all got hit the hardest with them leaving. Not because they liked them that much or anything, but because those three all had "serious talks" and aggressive stances against anybody who hated homo collabs, only for the two who caused it to walk out and make them look retarded.

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>>72921098
Damn that's unfortunate

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>>72921098
.

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>>72921098
>Kronii had a policy of "accept but don't ask"
She also had a policy of "not hosting" those collabs on her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>72921861
No she didn't. She said she wouldn't "stream her POV" if it "made people happy". Then she had her whole "I'll do what I want and you gotta deal with it" moment.

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>>72921098
Reminds me how they kept trying to prop up the "we only collab when the girls ask us to" narrative only for the dingo to open is big mouth and say that he's been the one asking Zeta for collabs which killed that narrative.

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>>72914678
Not to mention that one shotgun roulette game. It’s sad he’s gone but he’s no doubt happier where he is now. I think he applied on a whim and was surprised to get in on one go
Just wish he was more consistent but then again, so does he.

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>>72907126
the hololive side now has something to point to when they're worried about the homos. I can understand why fans of the boys don't like it

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>>72910419
>He admitted on his return stream after his suspension that he had anger issues.
He explained as epic green man that he exploded during a meeting, left said meeting, then wrote a colorful email to one of the staff involved. Very likely it was either over perms being denied or because he was ordered to work on things related to the "idol life"

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>>72911239
Anons really dont want to accept that contract negotiations was the answer. They still want Sexual harassment to be the reason

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>>72911239
Interesting. So that's why Magni had his whole "I'm still filled with rage" talk.

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>>72906760
Didn't Dingo heavily imply that he and Altare would get into verbal fights? I remember he said something along the lines of "Mom and dad are fighting" at one point. He always struck me as the type of guy that wouldn't take shit from someone way younger than him.

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>>72923526
Yes

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>>72923378
He's butthurt that his Magni audience didn't follow him to his PL

[Anonymous No.]

>>72923378
QRD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
ANXIETY HORT
TIME TO CHASE MY NIP MANAGER WITH A SPEAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Because hes a loser who couldn't take the heat from Hololive fans

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>>72904728
the (also caused the real holocaust) kills me every fucking time

[Anonymous No.]

>>72924665
Based

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>>72911239
Holo/HomoEN were under the same management team until Omega got fired. Sometime around fall 2020 is when management got restructured and Jap got hired as the HoloEN director and Gorimane got promoted to HomoEN director. I think Omega was a huge reason why mixed collabs were being pushed/encouraged because the moment he got let go was when the collabs died and it just became SALT as the only group who collabed.
For Magni specifically, he was always pissed off that he was never going to be accepted as being part of Hololive (he had a whole speech in his first couple months about how he finally felt like he was a Hololive member).
>>72924241
He went into debt setting up the whole classroom setup he has and was hoping that homo fags would jump ship to his rm. I think the Doki reception made him question why he didn't get the same amount of fanfare when he left.

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>>72912793
you're one of the retards that pushes the "they got fired rrat" even though cover gave them the alum status but not rushia or mel.

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>>72925976
That he asked why he didn't get the same amount of fanfare only showcases how deluded and out of touch he was with the community

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>>72920581
Magni and Vesper wanted to help Kronii and they clearly did feel sorry for her situation. Kronii got stuck with a highly sexualized design that is bad even by Hololive standards. Anya hated the boob physics on her default outfit so much that she almost never uses it while Flare did the same thing until she could get a redesign so other talents had the same issue. The guys had sympathy for Kronii being embarassed with her model and they clearly did start talking with management after they got their new models. There a lot of coincidences with statements they made during the TTRPG GUN collab, the plot of Snowpiercer, and Magni's last membership post telling fans that he always repays a debt. They were fired but management did feel guilty enough afterwards that eventually they reached a deal with Kronii and HoloEN was noticeably more optimistic for 2024 after that December meeting.

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>>72927411
>Anya hated the boob physics on her default outfit so much that she almost never uses it
Not reading anything more than that because you're wrong about Anya. She was literally never meant to "have boobs" in the first place and was the result of a rigging error.

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>>72922831
It's kind of funny they did almost everything the opposite of how JP does it and it blew up in their faces so badly. Maybe they should have actually acted like Holostars.

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>>72924606
He talked on his PL that he's gonna get his own vtuber model, and that he's gonna give them a try because his previous vtuber worked left him filled with rage in which his friends commented that he seemed extremely angry when was doing a few rounds with a punching bag.

[Anonymous No.]

who?

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>>72927411
A deal made with Kronii?

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>>72927411
They were promised greatness the same level as hololive girls by omega, magni is probably one who believed it wholeheartedly which is why you'll notice him saying he didn't got a chance. Since the only possible way to take advantage of the success of hololive to holostars branch is by trying to ask for more collabs which sparked frictions since the talents already has an understanding of their own fanbase. Previous management pushing whole holoen to be like nijisanji didn't help. Add the whole neglecting the girls in reddit/holoen channel/twitter too with their reasoning of "the boys need it more" it looks like a symptom of something behind the scenes being bad till 2023 happened, a talent from en side probably skipped en management to complain directly to jp side.
Anyways separating the two branch management and workings seems to be for the benefit of everyone else looking at the current nijisanji and luca leak. With the separation the expectations would also be lowered towards the holostars but what do I know I'm just an anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72930010
>since the talents already has an understanding of their own fanbase.
More like they had an understanding of what Hololive was.
Reminder that Ollie wanted to "break down barriers" within Hololive early on and attempted to do tons of Holopro collabs only to get so much hate and get shat on so hard for so long that she became meek and said she's ok just "existing" even if she's on the bottom now.
It's such a selfish thing to try and force.

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>>72930010(me)
Remember jp side don't have too much of a problem collabing with holostars, the talents/management/and the fans, which brings to a point that the omega management is at fault here focusing to much on holostars and neglecting support for the hololive girls. They went 2 years not debuting more gens not utilizing the vtubing hype & covid lockdown. While the boys had numerous gens in just 1.5 years. The content in the official en side is lackluster too, that the holoen youtube channel was dead in the water when you compare it to holojp at the same timeframe. You can see why advent received great welcome due to all of that bringing new life to hololive en.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72930905
Weren't it because she said the other girls are more talented than she is, and she also dropped her crazy act because others do it too? That she seems to find it hard differentiating herself from her colleagues that seems to have more talent than her. So she said she's okay being on the average/mundane side before getting cheered on by kiara.
I think it has something to do with the fact that people can only remember her for her collabs but not her solo content that the audience really didn't stick around for her that much?
>People were quick to point out that she tried helping others too much she felt down about her own self worth. I don't know didn't watch ID that much

[Anonymous No.]

>>72932933
Ollie got pumped and dumped hard by the twitch scene and that seems to have hurt her, she very rarely tries to collab with people who are more popular than her as a result now.
She also has a big insecurity when it comes to "Olivia" because people seem to largely prefer that persona instead of her real self.

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>>72904499
Being a lazy menhera

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>>72905730
"idol shit" is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting there
it means singing practice, dance training, travel, recordings and live performances
only retards fail to acknowledge the workload involved

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>>72928983
Huh, how about that. I knew Magni hated his model (understandably) but I didn't know he hated being a part of Hololive.

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>>72935849
Having to deal with the red tape of perms, mandatory singing/dancing lessons, dealing with a manager, and the general stars anti and unicorn, it'd make sense why he left with so much anger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72935849
He never said he hated being in Hololive, he said "what happened was fucked up" and that he "didn't deserve it" which is what he's angry about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72937141
>and the general stars anti and unicorn
That one was his own fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72937210
What exactly was so fucked up? He got some criticism for trying to turn hololive EN into nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72937780
He's not being forthcoming with that information.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72937780
Pretty sure Magni was referring to the "break" he and Vesper had before graduating

[Anonymous No.]

>>72918013
Better. No one here uses 'live' 'stars' side unless you want to tell everyone here you're from reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
How many times you have made this dust settled thread already sister ?

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>>72938112
The more these two talk the more I think that the two wanted more perks during their contract renewal like not having to deal with perms for example.
Magni started ramping up his rm activities and launching merch/going to cons while he was on this "break" which left a sour taste when he didn't even do a graduation stream.

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>>72929909
Why do you think Kronii and IRyS swapped themes during their birthday lives? There was plenty of symbolism with devil Kronii and angel Kronii which indicates that she was able to make a deal with management related to her situation.

>>72937780
Anon you know Magni signed an NDA and he can't spell out exactly why he was fired. That he "took a sacrifice" though heavily implies he was trying to help someone else.

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>>72904555
Nobody cares about Gura anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>Be Vesper
>Be the most successful Holostar member
>Still treated extremely poorly by management
>Harassed by unicorns
>Go to Japan, be disallowed from bringing meds because Japan drug laws
>Go to HoloHQ and directly complain to managers. It goes so poorly , you have a mental breakdown
>Come back to streaming and your new model is finished
>Your motivation is so shot you decide to quit anyways
>Your friend quits with you
>He talks about how bad you had it in the company and that you just wanted to soldier through it to not cause trouble
>Retards /here/ still think you quit because you were a piss baby who couldn't hold an actual job despite you working in an office for a decade

Holofags are on full defense mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>72925976
>Jap
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72939460
your faggot should've killed himself in japan

[Anonymous No.]

Magni NEEDS to let everyone know what a black company Cover is. Fuck them for their bullshit, they barely supported StarsEN and basically left them to rot after the first two months. I hope he goes the Selen route and gets redeemed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72938919
A graduation stream would have help smoothen things up on fans side. To show like your moving on and hope people that watch you continue their support on your next endeavour. Not straight up quitting leading holostars to be stunted in growth and given a bad look for potential fans.

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>>72939632
>2 and a half years
>Beloved person in company
>Fucked over publicly many times
vs
>Half a year
>In a side group with low viewership
>Threw a fit over model, got a better one and quit
Yeah, nah.

[Anonymous No.]

He’s doing better than the other one that graduated at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>72939936
AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
he left because he was too busy having sexual intercourse with me to hold a job at cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905295
That's fucking evil lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72939632
What's funny is that nobody would care because everybody was hoping for the dissolution of HomoEN. Even the HomoJP fans.
There's a reason they keep to themselves nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906195
anxiety problem is real anon.
It's not when you see people and goes spagheti sperg.
It is when you see a normal sidewalk bush then your heart start racing hands shaking your heart is thinking a lion is in there to pounce you but your brain know that it's not there.
basically this for your wholelife so it's kinda bad to live without med.

Explained alot why he's crazy when he's can't bring his med to Japland

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
Ngl I liked him more when he was in Holo (until his last wow arc) , now he's more happy but meh to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>72939460
considering the chair seasoning I think he only kept that office job because of certain bonuses for hiring people with mental health problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>72941406
Yeah see that would be right if it wasn't disproven by his own stupidity. The dumbass never checked if he was allowed to bring his meds to Japan. So he went cold turkey like a fucking moron. I get anxiety, but that doesn't cover making sure your meds that are vital to your brain chemistry are good to travel with you.

Contrast Hakka and Flayon who went to Japan and checked if their medications were allowed. Both got letters/notices from their doctors explaining the medications and weird, no issues there. (Expect Flayon's ADHD meds were still confiscated for some fucking reason.)

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>>72904728
>Was in a relationship with Mikeneko
>Was the one who told Mafumafu that Mikeneko was cheating on him
>Formed HLZNTL
>Was the person that Mel leaked info that would lead to her termination.
>Culled ReGloss's sub numbers constantly during their first week.
>Convinced Matsuri to take part in that VCR stream.
>Pretended to be the Niji investor that told everyone that Selen's termination was "negligible"
>Exaggerated his complaints to NotMagni so he'd talk about them on his stream only to make a more level headed reason after making him look incredibly bitter.
How does one man do this?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know, but thank god

[Anonymous No.]

kronii...

[Anonymous No.]

>>72939189
that "deal" doesn't make sense to me. What symbolism is there in Kronii's birthday live theme? It's about the duality that makes up "Ouro Kronii" when it concerns her singing

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to interrupt your rrat/gossip jerk-off session here but coincidentally few hours ago he posted this short and I think it explain pretty much everything:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xwRl_ukvBWo

[Anonymous No.]

>>72945179
So basically work is hard. Got it. As if half the people here haven't already had this clip shoved at them you dumb fag.

TL;DR He's still a fucking quitter and couldn't do the work all his younger coworkers were easily able to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72942043
>bonuses for hiring people with mental health problems
oh shit where do i apply?

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't been in this shithole for nearly half a year and you faggots STILL can't let this shit go, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72945179
Cool. That short didn't say why he left at all and what Lando was so angry about. Didn't even explain what the sacrifice was. Holofags desperately are trying to have this die

[Anonymous No.]

>>72911239
>not having to do 3d
that's not a real requirement
only 3D debut is mandated they are more or less free to nope out of everything else... And you don't even need to do idol shit for your 3D debut you can do literally anything else.

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>>72935849
>being a part of Hololive
he never was a part of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>72948725
2 more weeks before NotMagni and NotVesper drops all the evidence that’s shows Cover is a black company sister, trust.

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>>72925976
>Holo/HomoEN were under the same management team until Omega got fired.
that's literally not true
>he finally felt like he was a Hololive member
did he unironically say hololive and not holostars? (or at least holopro?)

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>>72941406
>pothead
>anxiety issues
He can fix his anxiety issues by not doing pot. He's nearing 40 and he still types shit like "idk". He's a fucking loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>72924826
>kills me every fucking time
anon?

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>>72927411
what is this retarded narrative lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>72949333
I really have no idea but it gets posted every time either of these homos are talked about

[Anonymous No.]

>>72949241
Nah, notMagni said no one will ever know what happened so that's what'll happen unless there's some secret whistleblower in Holo willing to get burned at the stake for them. Whatever wrongdoing Hololive did is successfully covered up and the fags are trying to squish the drama

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>>72949333
>They totally did it to help someone else
It's a cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>72949399
They’re coming to your house right now to silence you. Better wipe that hard drive sister. Can’t have any loose ends in this cover up

[Anonymous No.]

>>72949399
>hololive
when will you fags understand that hololive is not holostars?...

[Anonymous No.]

>>72949850
When will you fags understand that no one cares about the difference besides retarded unicorns that would blow their head off if Gura collabed with a guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
He realized he was an amateur all along and couldnt hack it with the pros.

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>>72949902
A lot of people care tho dumb FUCK
hololive new year's stream had 270k+ ccv while holostars got pathetic 17k
That's the difference. Holostars will NEVER be hololive. Never. They are pathetic useless fucking LEECHES.
Gladly most of them understand their position (unlike their stupid as fuck fanbase)

[Anonymous No.]

>>72950209
>besides retarded unicorns that would blow their head off if Gura collabed with a guy?
This applies to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>72950458
I literally never mentioned anything about collabs you braindead clown.
>Gura
I don't give a fuck about EN failures...
As I said stars fanbase is too fucking stupid to understand their position or the issue. It's all about muh collabs with you fags... So dumb
Newsflash, idiot
NOBODY gives a fuck about collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
He actually released a short just yesterday I believe and the title of the short was "Why Vtubers Leave Corpos".

He basically admitted that it was much more stressful than what he imagined. That's basically it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
You could tell sea ran out of shit to shit the catalog with when they're recycling stuff that happened a year ago. Jesus Christ what a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72934966
>only retards fail to acknowledge the workload involved
Only retards would sign up for it and then complain about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72916382
Also, he wanted to play golf with Yagoo at 1m

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904773
>A mentally unwell indivdual with anxiety issues
That's half of first gens
>doesnt like being around people much being asked to sing and dance on stage in front of thousands
So he doesn't like doing "idolshit" and then joins THE idol corpo? Is he retarded?
>despite very little training
Oh, please, just look at Botan (my beloved). Now, im not saying that her dancing and singing skills are abysmally low, but she did become a lot better.

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>>72950910
So he was basically Sana?

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>>72953115
Sana at least has a very prolific job and it's one she greatly enjoys a whole much more. Doesn't help that the majority of her time in Hololive she was injured and had a hard time streaming because of it. It was a very understandable graduation.

Vesper was bitter but in the end accepted that it was not for him.
Magni is very fucking bitter about the whole thing.

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>>72950910
He never said that's why he graduated though. He pretty clearly said there's a lot of reasons why people quit corporations and Lando said they both were being fucked by the company. He even said Rando didn't want to talk about what happened and just wanted to let it die

[Anonymous No.]

>>72953115
>>72953239
Do you fucks not know that she graduated because of fucking CHINA?
wtf is this history revision

[Anonymous No.]

>>72950910
Oh yeah i saw that short and it just seemed to me like this guy is mentally weaker than a bunch of girls.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine being mentally weaker than younger(!) women(!).

[Anonymous No.]

>>72954976
holos like shion never experience nothing like that so they take hololive for granted...

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904499
His brand of 'tism was not compatible with jap corpo 'tism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72950910
Basically
>It's a demanding job, I'm too old for this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>72912150
Doesn't make any sense since you are actually allowed to take Adderall with you to Japan as long as you fill in a form
The same isn't true for weed

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
The man the myth the legend. We will never see another

[Anonymous No.]

>>72905268
I think it's the opposite. The girls saw him as their gay daddy and wouldn't leave him alone. It was clear Kronii was obsessed with him

[Anonymous No.]

>>72944788
>What symbolism is there in Kronii's birthday live theme?
Devil Kronii is sexy while being arrogant and rude. Angel Kronii is modest while being kind and humble. While that might only seem like a duality joke I get the feeling there is hidden symbolism in that choice especially when Kronii and IRyS switched themes for their birthdays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72906760
His first japan stream was the most unhinged stream I've ever seen. He was pounding cans while threatening to walk into the sea one moment and planning to buy Japanese samurai armor to terrorize his bosses in the next

[Anonymous No.]

>>72921098
Funny. Vesper has the same policy and collabed even less than Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>72956417
clear? how was it clear?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72938405
>>72949194
>>72949850
>>72949245
Literally who gives a shit? "Holopro" is short for "Hololive Production", but people use "Hololive" as an abbreviation for it as well. Nobody cares except for unicorns who are terrified they'll catch cooties if they don't have their own clearly separated "no boys allowed" treehouse to sit in. Everyone else doesn't bother because the difference usually either doesn't matter or is obvious from context.

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>>72957254
it's short for "hololive production" because cover wanted to "help" their fucking failures by plastering hololive name onto them
>but people use "Hololive" as an abbreviation for it as well.
and the yare retarded for doing so
>Nobody cares except for unicorns who are terrified they'll catch cooties if they don't have their own clearly separated "no boys allowed" treehouse to sit in. Everyone else doesn't bother because the difference usually either doesn't matter or is obvious from context.
stop being a corporate bootlicker
"the difference" here is that 20 times more people usually watch hololive and NOBODY gives a fuck about holostars
all this retarded projection about "no boys allowed" or "unicorns" is your fucking COPE
COPE and SEETHE
holostars will never be hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957468
>"the difference" here is that 20 times more people usually watch hololive and NOBODY gives a fuck about holostars
You fucking idiot, if you didn't give a fuck then you wouldn't keep sperging out over whether they're included or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>72927411
>>Anya
Nice research there, you dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957846
reading comprehension?
NOBODY gives a fuck about holostars
not only me
That's a simple fact
Why do you keep projecting and deflecting?
I never said anything about collabs, inclusion or whatever another dumb shit you'll come up with

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957987
>"Nobody gives a fuck about Holostars"
>Proceeds to cry about Holostars for 11 days and 11 nights
Don't know who you're fooling

[Anonymous No.]

Lol this thread is still going?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72958375
>Don't know who you're fooling
Okay... Tell me which holostar has a channel with 1 million subscribers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957987
>we are in a thread about Vesper
>people are talking about his and Magni's time in "Hololive"
>everyone, including (You), knows exactly what they mean
>you and a handful of other retards still feel the need to go NUH UH AcKshUALLy, they are part of Holo*STARS*, not Holo*LIVE*
I'll say it one more time: nobody cares, fuck off

>I never said anything about collabs
Holy delusion, neither did I, so why are you bringing it up? It's completely irrelevant to this discussion
>>72958557
Another cute attempt at moving the goal posts, but see above

[Anonymous No.]

>>72958978
>I'll say it one more time: nobody cares, fuck off
You are mistaken - the thing nobody gives a fuck about is holostars
>Holy delusion, neither did I, so why are you bringing it up? It's completely irrelevant to this discussion
>>72949902
> head off if Gura collabed with a guy
sure you didn't lmao
shut the fuck up
>Another cute attempt at moving the goal posts, but see above
Okay? nevermind that. Which one has 500k subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
i know exactly why he instantly bacame my oshi, he's so fucking based it's unbelievable

[Anonymous No.]

>>72959121
Did you ever think that two different people think you're retarded? Tough concept to understand, I know

[Anonymous No.]

>>72959283
I mean even if it's not you it's the same exact fucking argument? I didn't mention shit you were talking about too.
And both of you are deflecting from a simple fact - holostars is not hololive.
They are irrelevant fucking leeches. Why lump them together with hololive in the first place huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72927411
You're such a fucking schizo holy shit, you're been spouting this nonsense for months

[Anonymous No.]

>>72956716
It's clear if you have brainworms like that person obviously. She was so obsessed with him that she only did a single solo collab the entire time while Mori setup every single group one save for the one time she skinwalked the dingo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72927411
Get some help, and by that I mean of the 9mm to the side of your head kind, you damn schizoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72959391
>Why lump them together with hololive in the first place huh?
And why not huh? They're part of the same company and the minutiae of the official labels aren't important here. I'll continue to refer to them as part of "Holo" or "Hololive" when it's convenient to do so, the same way I do with DEV_IS/ReGLOSS and the same way I did with AZKi when she was still INNK. Not that I've ever even done that in this thread, >>72957254 was my first post here and >>72949902 and >>72959283 are both other people btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957468
Yeah, like how wavy lays will NEVER be normal lays, and the company will refuse to advertise wavy lays chips because people might hurt their mouth on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72960953
>And why not huh?
Because they are not the same thing?
Half of this thread is about how magni was delusional enough to think that's the case only to be forced to encounter actual reality - hololive girls are immensely popular while holostars are irrelevant low view leeches. And after he became disillusioned he got real butt mad and graduated (he's still mad).
Like the only reason dumb fags like you do it in the first place - to leech relevance and fame of hololive. It's that simple.
>I'll continue to refer to them as part of "Holo" or "Hololive"
Where fags like you are even coming from I wonder. Reddit?
Holostars are also "holo" tho nobody is really calling them that they are usually referred to as "stars". But thinking that stars are hololive is fucking RETARDED. They technically aren't. And they weren't under holopro in the beginning.
>the same way I do with DEV_IS/ReGLOSS
DEV_IS is HOLOLIVE DEV_IS
>I did with AZKi when she was still INNK
AZKi was in EVERY holofes Tho she herself says she joined hololive 2 years ago and differentiate INNK and hololive.

Either way you people are retarded just like magni was about the whole thing. He learned it the hard way lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>72961077
Are wavy lays 20 times less popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72960442
She collabed more times with Vesper than anyone in Advent

[Anonymous No.]

>>72915806
at least the Aloefags are dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
>gave kronii woke gender shit during her childhood
this implies that he knew that vtubing would be a thing and that kronii would become a talent 20 years ago. i kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>ctrl + f "kronii"
>33 mentions
based. do not let the bitch get away with it. always remind her fans that she is cock sucking whore

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>72948725
Unicorns want to portray Magni and Vesper as greedy and selfish. The alternative is they were trying to help Kronii and management was in a foul mood and fired them. I wouldn't say that Cover is evil but they are extremely strict and they will fire talents for stupid reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72963988
>I wouldn't say that Cover is evil but they are extremely strict and they will fire talents for stupid reasons.
breach of contract and leaking NDA shit are not "stupid reasons", sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>72963988
>fired
>two talents who were known for being annoyed at being in the corpo
>after exactly 1 year, aka at the time of contract expiration
>but not before giving them model updates that were only used for like two streams
>fired
You guys can repeat this rrat all you want, it still won't make it make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>72963988
Funny, because you on other hand try to make them into some kind of selfless heroes

[Anonymous No.]

>>72963988
>Kronii has been noticeably happier since those butt-monkeys got canned
Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957254
Your homos will never be hololive, when someone is talking about them is STARS or HOLOPRO, stop trying to leech from the girls for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>72964224
Firing Rushia and Mel for "breaking NDA" when they just told their friend something privately is , indeed, fucking retarded. Rushia especially because she was asking for advice on how to deal with workplace harassment

[Anonymous No.]

>>72963988
I don't know you think anyone believes your "homos were in some inexplicable way trying to help Kronii get a more modest outfit by getting fired" schizo posts.

Kronii would not be as into the self-love gimmick if she actually hated her model on some level, let alone do multiple 3D events where that's the whole gimmick. You just come across sounding like a bitter sister that she's been doing fine if not better ever since your toxic assets got their pink slips.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when Vesper was suspended for 2 weeks and when that 2 week period was up we were all like 'Cool, Vesper can stream now, where is he?' except Vesper took another week off without telling anyone leaving all his fans even longer in the dark?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72965160
Are you retarded or just a newfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72955047
Enough about gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72904728
Homobeggars are a fucking stain on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72965248
Knowing what actually happened doesn't make me a newfag. No one knows what was even "leaked" by Mel and we know that Rushia never shared anything to the public and only privately asked someone for advice. If you know of a secret reason they were fired, share with the class

[Anonymous No.]

>>72965160
Leaking company documents to Korekore is not "asking for advice on workplace harassment."

The Mel stuff is more regrettable admittedly, but it would absolutely set a bad precedent if someone more popular did the same thing but got a slap on the wrist when it came to light while someone else got fired for. Her termination while regrettable was also mutually agreed upon which is why she at least got to leave a final message for her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72963988
The other way round, it's mostly unicorns who are pushing the "fired" rrat because it feels like some kind of victory to them that they can celebrate unlike the realistic alternative which is "they realized that they hated the corpo life so they walked out after their initial contracts expired"

[Anonymous No.]

>>72957254
why are stars fan so obsessed with being called "hololive" too when "holostars" is a pretty cool name?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72965427
What company documents? Korekore said she DM'd him and asked for advice on how to deal with her situation. No documents were ever even mentioned. Mel shouldn't have even been fired because no one even knows what she said to somebody else. A single rule break resulting in getting immediately fired is extremely strict. Is it any wonder why Lando thinks the workplace was toxic as shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72965410
You don't know fuck tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>72966325
retard she was leaking shit to dramafags FOR YEARS
she also was writing anti shit on boards for years lol (despite knowing extremely well that they will easily give her ip away)

[Anonymous No.]

In the obvious minority here but what happened with these two, Coco and other events over the years really killed whatever enjoyment I had for Hololive. I always considered myself an ironic fan out of step with those who were more about 'muh idols' worship and I just put up with that while enjoying the more unhinged moments. Finally had enough late last year and haven't watched a single Hololive stream since. The ones I do miss watching, kind of hope there comes a day they are indies again but in the meantime I have found something much more up my alley and not having to deal with all the baggae that I grew to hate about Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72965427
Lot of good that final message did for her, last I checked she was close to dropping below 1000 viewers the other day. She's fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72966738
schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>72966738
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>72966809
Considering her average for HL was around 3-5k on a good day, 1k on her RM is honestly fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72967221
Maybe but I don't think she has found her floor yet. I may not be a business major but I don't know if relying on a core of hundred or so dedicated fans and bleeding them dry to support your finances and projects is the best way forward. Might be her only way forward all things considered

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>>72930010
>Anyways separating the two branch management and workings seems to be for the benefit of everyone else looking at the current nijisanji and luca leak.
This is a bad hire decision, not a justification for separation as if it's a regular thing and not a unique situation. NijiJP works just fine without the separation (they have other issues, but it has nothing to do with being mixed gender).

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>>72964753
Vesper and Magni did say they were friends with Kronii so wouldn't be a shock if they believed management was not being reasonable considering the situation with her family. After the Taiwan flag incident Cover made a new model for Nenechi in only 5 months so getting a redesign shouldn't be that much of a challenge. If management was flat out refusing to even consider a redesign than it could explain why things escalated into a double "graduation".

>>72965201
>Kronii would not be as into the self-love gimmick if she actually hated her model on some level
The model with a skimpy outfit and huge jiggling boobs is obviously not perfect and that is several layers of irony.

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>>72970793
If Kronii wanted an actual model change, it would have happened by now.

Flare and IRyS vocally talked about wanting a new model for months and months because their originals objectively looked bad. Kronii has shared zero desire to change her model in a similar vein, and you have to huff gas fumes to come up with dumb reasons to justify your schizo posting like "SHE USED A CONTROLLER ASSET WHEN PLAYING A GAME, THEREFORE SHE HATES HER BOOBS ACKSHULLY."

Like I know I'm not the first to say it, but seek medical attention.

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This thread will reach the bump limit. Hate is still real.

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>>72941406
Whenever I have a panic attack I'm reminding myself I am in fact probably not dying, as the other times that happened I was still alive the very next day.
Dealing with clinical anxiety in a foreign country and having to interact with anyone is hard, but manageable.
Doing so while withdrawing from depressants or weed, hard not to feel sorry for him.
On the other hand, it is not like he hadn't had a notice long before he was to travel there.
My best guess is this guy has completely forgotten what it's like to withdraw with physical dependence or never had to and decided to 'just wing it'. Which is pretty naive, which fits him. He's a bit of a naive idiot.
If he wasn't trying or being forced so hard to collab with the girls I would've probably become a fan. He is pretty relateable.

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>>72950209
It's one thing to just state the fact that hololive is way more successful. It's another to call starsJP, who do not cause trouble, leeches. From one 'unicorn' to another, you aren't based, you're just a neurotic asshole who hates their own sex.
I'm glad I can enjoy my favourites without ever thinking about the stars at all, unlike you deranged fuck.

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>>72927411
Nigga what is this cope, you really think magni and vesper were some kind of EN coco or something? vesper went out because perms autism and magni found out that they won't be snatching money from the girls to make their shit anymore.

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>>72971744
I always assumed the "kronii hates her default model" rrat was due to her not showing off her tits in streams. Plus, how does Kronii hate her model if she likes Wadarco's other designs? My retarded brain distinctly remembers Kronii saying she likes Meltyris and Koyanskaya, both designed by Wadarco, in the sponsored fgo collab with Ina.
>inb4 she only did it to suck up to her artist or type-moon fans

And let's not forget how much she actually gushes over her artist when she appears in chat or posts something on twatter

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>>72975044
He's a schizoid who has been spamming shit about how Kronii and Ina actually want model redesigns for a while now and he's ramped up his insanity lately.

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>>72961599
>The unicorn must smear Magni and Vesper as evil because they're exposing shady Hololive business practices
Typical

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>>72975342
You have to remember Kronii has been a persistent bait target since debut, getting multiple bait threads hitting bump limit from people calling her "a man hating-tranny" for having the audacity to have a slightly deeper voice than everyone else in her gen. The "she hate her model" bit was an extension of that because someone designed a controller asset that just happens to cover up her under cleavage in her setup.

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>>72904728
>is the host that blackmailed Matsuri
qrd?

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>>72921098
Don't forget it just the homos and Mori leeching off kronii and killing her career.
Mori still hasn't stopped in an attempt to prop up her dead CCVs.

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Japan broke a nibba, Axel warned him and failed sadly. If he got over the perms autism and mandated one cover song a year and realized he could stream on his personal account as a JPEG he would still be in STARSen enjoying a brotherhood to its fullest extent.

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>>72904499
He didn't know what he was signing up for, he had no understanding of a japanese corpo and unironically thought he could keep streaming whatever like usual and it didn't cross his mind he would have to do idolshit like sing and dance. When it clicked part of the job is being a stupid mascot and you cant just do what you want he had a menhera breakdown, then just up and left.

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>>72976110
So are the unikeks just going to try memoryholing Magni and Vesper obviously getting shit on by management so hard in Holostars that they quit despite being the top members? Because the idol shit wasn't mentioned a single time

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>>72904728
>spiking Ame's food with bread
huh?

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>>72966738
Cool, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

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>>72976427
Show me evidence of them getting shit on by management. No for real, I see this shit repeated here by the menhera Vesmites all the time, so bring me fucking proof. And not them just bitching and moaning, actual evidence.

Bonus: Magni given the cover song he wanted that he bitched about not getting to do on debut for his birthday, got merch made, got an orisong with merch, etc. Vesper still got the kiddy gloves treatment after getting suspended too, even admitting that he was holding up work that everyone else finished far earlier. Both flaunted that they ignored/ghosted their managers and didn't do work or turned it in late. And they got new models at the expense of Altare and Axel not getting shit (yeah, they agreed to it, but that management let that go through says something).

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>>72971744
>If Kronii wanted an actual model change, it would have happened by now.
Hololive talents don't own their characters and whether they can get a new design is a management decision. Cover is a business and would be reluctant to give out a redesign for a coomerbait model. They don't want their vtubers to be miserable but their main concern is selling merch.

>Flare and IRyS vocally talked about wanting a new model for months
Vague complaints on RM accounts is not the same as openly complaining on their Hololive channels.

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>>72904721
Neck yourself, retard.

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>>72976427
>Be vesper
>Apply for job
>They tell you what you can't and can't do
>Accept job
>Be a tard
>Get suspended
>WHAT THE FUCK?
No other holoEN or holostarEN had ever managed to get suspended besides him.

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>>72904499
He joined an idol company but it would have been impossible for him to do idol things because he needs to be medicated to be a functional human being and his medication would be illegal for him to have in japan. It's just an unworkable situation.

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>>72978003
>I want evidence that legally they aren't allowed to post without getting sued
You're not being very subtle, unikek
>>72978741
>No HoloEN was ever suspended
DYRBI? It isn't about the rules because not a single person mentioned breaking them. Not Magni talked about something really bad happening that he couldn't talk about it and that not Vesper was getting it worse than him but didn't want to talk about it. Vesper obviously had a good reason to get angry at management which led to him being suspended

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>>72915436
Ehatvdid Kronii even need help in, if anything she was helping them.

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>the fanfic about Vesper and Magni fighting management to help Kronii get a redesign
>unironically claiming that management hated homos and sabotaged them
lmao, didn't know homobeggars were THIS delusional.

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>>72970793
How do you explain that Kronii and Mori are now more unicorn friendly?

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>>72970793

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>>72980088
They get handed the world and they still demand more. Never have so many sacrificed so little for so much.

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>>72978457
IRyS said on multiple occasions during streams her redesign held her up from getting a proper kimono alt like all the other Promise girls got the winter prior, this isn't "vague posting on RM accounts" which surprise, surprise, Magni speedran calling his own model shit on his RM account.

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>>72953115
thats the reason
anything else is a rrat