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Hoshimachi Suisei Thread

Original Songs Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAo9RlHR2tDZwddeEyp9nTfpaFB58DrXd
Pieces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAuvl17sRs
Now on Space (Acoustic Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKyEVCPEV6c
Now on Space (Trio Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snM-fzz6hEs
Bluerose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfDYRy17CBY

Soundboard
https://suisei.moe/

Stream or Purchase 『駆けろ』(Kakero)
https://suisei.streamlink.to/run

Upcoming Events
(July 31st) TUBEOUT With Hanabasami Kyou (Re:ACT):
https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21073118-TO10
(August 21st) Original Song release and Important Announcement
(September 29th) Still Still Stellar: Hoshimachi Suisei 1st Album Release.

Physical CD Pre-purchase
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/HOLO-2

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati

Hoshimachi Suisei and Azusa Tadokoro: Heikousen Scramble
(Radio Show with Bunka Housou every Sunday 17:00)
https://twitter.com/sensuku_agqr
https://www.uniqueradio.jp/agplayer5/player.php


For any questions you may have and older threads, check the FAQ:
https://pastebin.com/6BqBUJ3i

Previous Thread: >>7188400

>> No.7289665
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I would die to protect that smile

>> No.7289723

Where's the new discord

>> No.7289724

>>7289665
We are all suiseis meat shields in the end

>> No.7289976
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Note: Tubeout is in less than 12 hours.
If you wish to view or purchase them, you can go here to purchase your tickets.
https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21073118-TO10

Both Suisei and Kyou are amazing singers, and it's not the first time they did a duet gig.
https://youtu.be/0fjmqG3RQuQ

Kyou herself is famous for her rendition of 名前のない怪物 by EGOIST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPJGCQU_v0

Be sure to check her out if you're interested!

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Have a good thread everyone. Remember, don't reply to bait and don't misbehave. Don't fall for scams

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>>7289976
Forgot to mention, there will be a free portion here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b0XA51cJJo

Don't expect a lot, though. It's mostly gonna be advertisements for the special ticket as well as lots of commercials. We'd maybe get a song, maybe two at best.

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>>7289665
>>7289724
Dying for Suisei!

>> No.7290868

>>7290036
Will be archived the free portion?

>> No.7290994

>>7290868
I think yes, but only until the next TUBEOUT is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGtOZ1x6ync

>> No.7291770

>>7289723
still wip please be patient

>> No.7292114

>>7290208
Why does she spread her legs wide?

>> No.7292178

>>7292114
proper evisceration technique

>> No.7292264
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suityan!

>> No.7292338

>>7292114
Because she has wide hips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAA62BCVjak

>> No.7292559

>>7292114
You're never too old to fuck up your back.

>> No.7293680

Are you guys going to watch TUBEOUT? I'm thinking of buying a ticket, but I'm not sure.

>> No.7294427
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>>7293680
Just bought mine. The ability to sell tickets and songs is what makes the suits give Suityan more concerts and songs. And she has anyway delivered a good number of free concerts in her utawakus that I might as well be paying for at the same time.

Of course, if you have something like food or rent or a ticket out of the hellhole you live in that you need to buy instead, then it's probably not the best use of your money. Personally I didn't find the ticket all that expensive.

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>>7293680
Of course

>> No.7297038

>>7293680
tubeout is a super good price for a concert actually, and kyo is an awesome performer to go alongside suisei. If there ever was a ticket worth getting, I would definitely say it's tubeout. Definitely better bang for your buck than holofes2

>> No.7297989

>>7294427
>>7296396
>>7297038
Alright, you guys convinced me. The more we show support for Suityan, the more opportunities she'll have in the future. She's already given us great shows for free, it's only fair to pay her back.

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>> No.7303130
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>>7302424
Suityan wa?

>> No.7303182

>>7303130
kyoumo kawaii!!

>> No.7304397
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Suityan

>> No.7304820

>>7294427
booba

>> No.7304932

>>7304820
Clearly that's Anemachi pretending to be Suityan.

>> No.7305370

>>7304397
Cute dork

>> No.7306671

>>7304397
Fat Suityan...

>> No.7307793

>>7306671
Don't doubt Suityan's metabolism. She's one of those people who can eat anything and not gain weight.

>> No.7310461

>>7289976
You should also include the song that made Suisei a fan of Kyou: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtD7xcruYAk

>> No.7310574

>>7304820
can't unsee it now fuck

>> No.7310806

Almost for the TUBEOUT

>> No.7310843

>>7310461
Pretty good

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This thread is taken over by Tokomachi supremacy!!!

>> No.7312677

>>7307793
Sweaty workout Suityan...

>> No.7312904

>>7289723
>>7291770
the discord is unfucked now desu
vanity url is /hoshiyomi

>> No.7312928
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Suichan is a good partner for Miko, I'll show some support here and get a ticket Hoshiyomi.

>> No.7312952

>>7312904
Still can't believe he fell for the cheap free Nitro :^) scam. Is he third worlder poorfag or something?

>> No.7312993

https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1421365078939496451
[Good News?] Suityan has cured her hypotension by using the anxiety of a live performance.

>> No.7313088
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>>7312928
Thanks 35p, Suisei will appreciate it

>> No.7313141

This was never the place to discuss the discord

>> No.7313514
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I'm commissioning a pen and pencil sketch of Suichan from a local indie. I've bought her Holo portrait sketches before at anime cons.

I'm thinking of asking for Suichan in her usual outfit and a pose like her TUBEOUT one, but her hair down outfit would be cute too, or winking and doing a V with her gloved fingers. Does anyone have any other pose ideas before I lock in the request?

>> No.7313627

>>7312904
Just rejoined in. It looks barebone, but I only want its stream pinging.

>> No.7313682
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>>7313514
I would like something like this but it's your choice

>> No.7313692
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>>7312993
>hypotension

I always wondered if that wasn't just a joke about not being a morning person, but I guess she's at least dedicated to it?

>> No.7313739
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I feel like we're coming full cycle to a new Suisei outfit soon.

>> No.7313849

>>7313141
half of this thread is discordfags you dumb nigger

>> No.7313946 [DELETED] 

I've never used spwn before, where do I go to use the ticket?

>> No.7313963
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Free portion starting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b0XA51cJJo

>> No.7314022

>>7313849
Yet this still isn't the place to discuss it
Go somewhere else

>> No.7314027

3 12 is so good. I kneel InoTac.

>> No.7314038

>>7313682
That's a good idea. I want the gloves in somehow which is why I mentioned the V pose. Head resting in hand could also capture her bracelet and I can have Suichan giving me a soft smile.

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>>7313946
Go to https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21073118-TO10, make sure you're logged in and click on the icon for the ticket you bought. Might have to click twice to get to the actual stream, just ignore any questionnaires that might pop up.

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3 minutes left, get hype.

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NCP

>> No.7314426

>>7314412
I meant Tenkyuu

>> No.7314457

Tenkyu!

>> No.7314463
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https://vimeo.com/581477423
https://vimeo.com/581477423
https://vimeo.com/581477423
Free restream

>> No.7314473

Those dance lessons are paying off

>> No.7314557

Oh, that was Kyo's original? I, uh, have that on my Suisei playlist ever since the Bunka Housou concert and have been meaning to check out whose is the original ever since but never got around to it...

>> No.7314576

Suityan is dangerously cute today

>> No.7314596

Suisei/Kyo Roki isn't as good as the Suisei/Himehina, but it's still pretty great.

>> No.7314655

>>7314596
https://streamable.com/wvikvk
I agree with you

>> No.7314749

>>7314655
God this whole thing is just so good, especially from 2:15.

>> No.7314870

Kyo is a good singer, but I keep getting distracted by the ass shots

>> No.7314898

>>7314870
Ass shots be damned, this model is all leg and I'm all about it.

>> No.7314907

>>7314870
you can enjoy both at the same time though

>> No.7314916

>>7314870
>>7314898
Anything but the face

>> No.7314930

Ohamachi~

>> No.7314934

Bluerose!!

>> No.7315018

NCP TIME

>> No.7315074

Tenkyu
Bluerose
NPC

Kakero is coming!

>> No.7315096

>>7314655
best Roki

>> No.7315232

>>7314463
you're the hero of poorfags like me

>> No.7315256

Migo is gonna like this

>> No.7315268

Holy shit Gokuraku Jodo

>> No.7315360

LETSF UCKING GOOOOOO

>> No.7315368

Has she ever sing GARNiDELiA in utawaku?

>> No.7315379

Kyou...

>> No.7315396

>>7315368
You would know the answer to this if you actually watched her streams

>> No.7315437

kyou.....

>> No.7315474

GHOST DUET

>> No.7315476

GHOOOOOOOOOOOOST

>> No.7315481

GHOST

>> No.7315483

UOOOOHHHH GHOOOST

>> No.7315527

So now Suisei's friends already sang GHOST. Toko, Mememe, and Kyo.

>> No.7315532

KOTAE WA

>> No.7315559

Who is the literal who she is singing with? Would much prefer a Suisei solo concert to be honest.

>> No.7315560

MITAI DAAAAA

>> No.7315571

Seeing that background reminds me of just how beautiful Ghost's MV is. I really hope Kakero can live up to it

>> No.7315610

>>7315559
Why would come here and post such a bad bait?

>> No.7315656

>>7315610
Ummm, it wasn't bait, lol. I've literally never heard of them before.

>> No.7315661

>>7315610
different anon but same desu, solo Suityan concert is special

>> No.7315666

That song was so nice. Is it her original song?

>> No.7315691

>>7315666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZWJPndzLs

>> No.7315695

>>7315666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZWJPndzLs

>> No.7315724

>>7315559
>>7315661
You can both kindly fuck off.

>> No.7315734

>>7315724
fuck you too fag

>> No.7315735

>>7315656
Jesas, where are you people come from?

>> No.7315737

She will sing Kakero

>> No.7315759

>>7315724
Strike a nerve or something? My lord.

>> No.7315763

>>7315691
>>7315695
thanks

>> No.7315795

>>7315759
Her name has been posted multiple times in this thread already, you either are a dumb cunt who can't read or it's shitty bait. Either way fuck off with your shit.

>> No.7315880

>>7315074
You were right

>> No.7315926

Kakero with Kakero MV in the background

>> No.7316000

Rank the best Suisei duet.

>> No.7316113
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Kyun deathe

>> No.7316138

>Rolled out of bed and arrived at the concert half asleep
As expected of Sui-chan

>> No.7316202

>>7316138
Suityan...

>> No.7316237
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>>7316138
sleepy as always

>> No.7316272

anyone know what the keyword they gave at the end is for?

>> No.7316434

This is my first time hearing the extended version of this BGM w

>> No.7316451

>>7316000
Behavior was the best. Roki was good, but in the shadow of the HimeHina version. GHOST is of course a great song, but Suisei sings it so well that no partner could measure up in my mind.

>> No.7316471

>>7316272
prize for 5 people. don't apply.

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It was great. Next live when.

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It was really fun, money well spent.

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suityan... your pose reps...

>> No.7317165

>>7316471
Smart anon weeding out the competition.

>> No.7317348

Tubeout clips onegai...

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dorky as always

>> No.7317473

sasuga nanakagumama. No1 Hoshiyomi
https://twitter.com/nana_kaguraaa/status/1421398047699783680

>> No.7317555
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After watching the free part of TUBEOUT on YouTube, I appreciate Suisei's free 3D concerts even more. To think that she does it for free is almost unbelievable.

>> No.7317569

>>7317555
Ikr, Suityan's 3d concerts unironically have SOVL.

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Suichan dancing is always so fucking dorky...

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>>7317575
That's a good thing.

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>>7317555
lamy-chan??

>> No.7318185

>>7317625
What she would do for boobs as big as hers...

>> No.7318698

So which one was your favorite today?

>> No.7318942

>>7318698
Tossup between Ghost and Behavior; I completely didn't expect them to duet their original songs (I really should have expected it...).
Really wish they did Kyo's Starry since it's a banger and fits Suisei's theme, but still well worth the money

>> No.7319339

>>7318698
Definitely Next Color Planet, though Ghost is a close 2nd.

>> No.7320686

Tenkyu was great too. You can watch Tenkyu in the free part.
https://youtu.be/8b0XA51cJJo?t=1854

>> No.7320825

>>7316525
Kyo and Suityan are suprisingly nice duo. Probably because she has a similar "strong" type of voice like Leona so it mix well with kyo's voice

>> No.7321447

do your Shoujo Rei reps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9tsfkdgByA

>> No.7322003

Has Suisei streamed Pokemon Unite?

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>>7322003
No.

>> No.7324134

>>7322003
I don't think she's played any MOBAs. It would be fun to see her tryharding though.

>> No.7324779

SuiSEX

>> No.7325769

>>7289613
Why isn't Now on Space on any of Suisei's playlists?

>> No.7325962

>>7325769
Because there's no official video.

>> No.7325983 [DELETED] 

>>7325769
She forgot maybe? The 4th 3D live isn't on the respective playlist too.

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>>7325769
Legal limbo with Bunka Hoso, she doesn't have the full rights to the song.
I hope they have that straightened out since it's another good song.

>> No.7326035

>>7325983
Oh you were talking about the song. Sorry, I'm a retard.

>> No.7326297

I hope Now on Space would be released on 8/21

>> No.7326462

>>7326297
Pieces and NOS forever locked away...

>> No.7326544

>>7326462
If you can only have one, what would you choose?
>Pieces
>Now On Space
>Nari

>> No.7326828

>>7326544
Pieces, sad/emo songs are good.

>> No.7327126

>>7326544
Pieces no doubt

>> No.7327420

>>7326544
is nari going to be on her cd?

>> No.7327444

>>7327420
on the cover

>> No.7327592
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3V4sAXUJ-g
Thank you Suisei for introducing me to this song.

>>7325769
There is no official version of that. The best thing that you could get is this https://streamable.com/nxvhla

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3:12 is selling really great.

>> No.7327716

>>7327662
isn't this old

>> No.7328045

>>7327592
>https://streamable.com/nxvhla
Now I want an official release. What's the story about the license? The artist made that song because he felt like doing it and Suisei accepted? Cover fucked up? Why is it in a legal limbo?

>> No.7328243

>>7328045
Bunka Houso (radio station) made that song for Suisei's radio show. After the show concluded Suisei said that they (radio station and Suisei) don't know what to do with that song so other than that one VILLS2 appearance the song is in limbo.

>> No.7328309

>>7328243
>don't know what to do with that song
Can't she just buy it from them? I don't know shit about Japanese copyright law, but if they're on good terms I don't see why it should be stuck.

>> No.7328642

>>7328309
Suisei would rather just whale for gacha than waste her money on getting the rights to her song.

More seriously it could also be something along the lines of Polka talking about wanting Cover to own the rights to her songs. Suisei could be in a similar boat here, and Cover just aren't doing anything about getting it.

>> No.7329297

>>7328642
>could also be something along the lines of Polka talking about wanting Cover to own the rights to her songs
What was the full explanation? Clip?

>> No.7329900

>>7329297
I can't remember exactly where I read it, it was definitely on here somewhere though seemingly not in one of her last three or four archived threads. She didn't really go into any crazy detail about it though, simply that she owns the rights to her songs and was trying to get Cover to buy them off her for whatever reason.

>> No.7330829

>>7329900
isn't this about getting it on streaming platforms and stuff? i don't remember the full details though.

>> No.7330863

>>7330829
Probably was something along those lines, I really wish I could find where I read it.

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>>7330863
I believe it's from a members' only stream which might be privated since at least some of that stuff could fall under NDA and she was having second thoughts about talking so freely already during the stream. Not membered to Polka either, but I remember it getting discussed in a thread or three.

Incidentally I've seen a narrative go around saying that Suisei (also Mori) would own her songs, but I haven't seen any source for that. I wonder if it's from that same stream, some other privated and/or member's only stream by someone else, or just headcanon. Given that Suisei has said she needs to pitch every song to the suits separately, it sounds to me like Cover pays for and consequently owns them, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

>> No.7331732

>>7329900
Oh I remember this. Isn't it on public translated clips? She did negotiations with cover and it doesn't only include her songs, but also her avatar and brand itself. Which is why she couldn't easily debut to Hololive and started on INNK.

https://youtu.be/LZ87zuPkqMs?t=278

>> No.7331866

>>7331732
Talking about Polka, not Suisei on that part. Definitely something Suisei has been through though.

>> No.7331952

>>7331866
Ah shit.

Well the thread is about Suisei, and the long topic points to Suisei's gacha addiction, so pardon me anon

>> No.7331984

>>7331465
>but I haven't seen any source for that. I wonder if it's from that same stream, some other privated and/or member's only stream by someone else, or just headcanon. Given that Suisei has said she needs to pitch every song to the suits separately, it sounds to me like Cover pays for and consequently owns them, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
I fear for the future if Suisei needs to leave hololive someday. I hope she knows what she's doing and didn't signed any weird contract. She owns the right to the character and the songs are attached to that character, maybe they would be in a weird limbo like Now on Space. It would be a shame if it happened.

>> No.7332399

>>7331984
That'd be counter-productive and Cover will receive backlash. Public is harsh on corpos. Their middleground would probably be share on future earnings for the collaborative work.

>> No.7332796

>>7331984
>>7332399
I think the most likely scenario is that she could buy the songs back. Cover would have the incentive to sell them because they couldn't make money otherwise, and Suityan would have the incentive to buy them to continue performing.

>> No.7335059
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7335059

>>7329900
>>7331465
Found Polka's claim about her song https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/6391543/#q6481224 Follow the conversation.
It depends on the talents it seems. It would make sense for Mori to own the rights of most of her songs. It would be wierd if Suisei doesn't own them too given that she is releasing songs and paying for them.

All this was in a members only stream though, there's no direct source.

>> No.7335098

New costume when?

>> No.7335948

IIRC, NOS was made by SAKANOUE YOUSUKE, and it was made on his own. Even suityan was surprised about that. So I think it needs some rights between SAKANOUE, Bunka Housou, Cover, and suityan.

>> No.7336308

>>7335948
Nice license fuckery tbqh. Source on this?

>> No.7336838

>>7336308
I forgot which one, but of course from Mspe. I'll try go look through my Mspe reps.

>> No.7337799

Did the Suicord disappear for anyone else?

>> No.7338112

>>7337799
Check the previous thread for the reason why, its already back but you need to join again dot hoshiyomi

>> No.7338117

>>7337799
Timeloop? >We are discussing about other things here. Check the last thread if you want to know more.

>> No.7338189

Sorry it was wrong >>7335948

Mspe #3 Apr 19
https://youtu.be/rUr2pgn9Icg?t=111
Mspe #4 Apr 26
https://youtu.be/bxqgFiP5318?t=56

suityan said she wants to make an original song for this radio, and Sakanoue brought it next week. So I think Bunka Housou didn't have anything to make this song, but it needs to own the rights since this song was made in this radio. The song was made by Sakanoue, the lyrics are written by suityan, made in Bunka Housou, and needs to go through COVER. It's pretty complex.

>> No.7338474

>>7335948
the fucking guitar man created that banger?

>> No.7338982

>>7338474
Yes, he made it in 1week>>7338189
Actually he really did a great work.

>> No.7340069

>>7338189
I wish Suityan luck. She'll need it to untangle all of that and one party will lose something in the process. I hope she can release it one day.

>> No.7340220

So what happened to that youtuber project brought by a mainstream TV channel?

>> No.7340443

>>7335059
Just read through the whole thing, Shiranui Kensetsu is pretty insane with both a royalty and a millionaire in it, no wonder every holo is trying to join them now.

>> No.7340902

>>7340220
I don't think she's appeared in that yet and it's also suppose to be really bad.

>> No.7340995

>>7338189
>The song was made by Sakanoue, the lyrics are written by suityan, made in Bunka Housou
Why can't she simply pay them for the work done? To Sakanoue and the radio studio, I mean. Is it different because the song is already done?

>> No.7341197

>>7340995
She can. Just depends on what price they'll charge her for it. A market with only one seller and (probably) only one buyer; the price could be anything.

>> No.7345082
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all tubeout vol 10 performances (please help me name the songs)

https://streamable.com/s906qc
https://streamable.com/cu2r3n
https://streamable.com/flf5ge
https://streamable.com/6z8pg1
https://streamable.com/zj3c1j
https://streamable.com/59oqbp
https://streamable.com/tug4r0
https://streamable.com/ajx2kz
https://streamable.com/51hv2n
https://streamable.com/mg78q9
https://streamable.com/6ant71
https://streamable.com/21hsf3
https://streamable.com/lnbxk8

>> No.7345103
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Bump for good luck

>> No.7347777

>>7340902
>it's also suppose to be really bad.
Yikes. Is that another case of out of touch geezers tried to join the latest fad and got burned? That sounds oddly cathartic, if I have to say.

>> No.7347854

>>7340902
Is it at least bad in an entertaining way?

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What makes all of this rights even more complicated is that you can't actually transfer copyright in Japanese law. You can only promise (via contract) that you won't exercise your rights. Normally contracts clarify this stuff, but Now on Space seems to have been written on a whim

>> No.7349699

IRyS covered Ghost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzEEffCJOjs

>> No.7349968

>>7340220
It's only an interview for her.
https://twitter.com/upstation4/status/1417091860342923270

>> No.7350329

>>7349699
I don't think her voice fits the song very well, maybe NCP or comet would've been better. It just doesn't pack the punch that Suityan's does

>> No.7350384

>>7349968
...That's it? So much for nothing.

>> No.7350720

>>7350329
Same thing as I thought. NCP would have been better

>> No.7351656

>>7350329
>I don't think her voice fits the song very well
This. I like IRyS and her singing a lot, but GHOST is just not a good match for her voice, persona, or image. It's the exact same thing as what happened when Sui-chan tried singing Umapyoi Densetsu in that one fairly recent karaoke.

Rather, IRyS just needs to find something that has a sound like A Sunny Day with You. She killed on that one really hard. I don't think I've heard a better rendition of it from any Vsinger to date.

>> No.7352942

suityan's Umapyou was dorky and cute. It's nice to have that kind of songs sometimes. Sometimes.

>> No.7353357

>>7345082
TUBEOUT setlist :
1. Tenkyuu - Suisei
2. Ao ni Tamerau - Kyo
3. Roki - SuiKyo
4. My Angle - Kyo
5. Violet - Kyo
6. Bluerose - Suisei
7. NCP - Suisei
8. Gokuraku Jodo - Suisei
9. Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari - Kyo
10. GHOST - SuiKyo
11. Behavior - SuiKyo
12. All Night - Kyo
13. Kakero - Suisei

>>7349699
It's good but just like her previous two covers it doesn't have as much soul as the original.

>> No.7353390

>>7352942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDLsxmpkeg4

>> No.7353473
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Why are they like this?

>> No.7353579

>>7353473
What does this pose mean?

>> No.7353628

>>7350329
>>7350720
I wonder if it's a rights thing. There's barely any (singing) covers of NCP on youtube. The few that exist barely have any views or have extremely altered lyrics. Meanwhile there are a ton of GHOST covers. Maybe some JASRAC or weirdness?

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>>7353579
No idea

>> No.7354415

>>7353628
Why would it be any different? There's almost no covers of comet or Tenkyuu too. GHOST became pretty famous pretty fast and that gave people more incentive to make their own renditions of the song.

>> No.7354568

>>7354415
>comet or Tenkyuu
Because there is no instrumental version of them until recently.

>> No.7355209

>>7354568
You can't do covers with official instrumentals according to JASRAC, you have to make your own. Either way, I doubt the reason why NCP doesn't have more covers is because of some weird thing with license.

>> No.7359199

>>7353579
totem pole

>> No.7359390

>>7355209
you can if you get permission. suityan is using Shoujo Rei's original instrumental. I remember KING and Champagne Day too.

>> No.7359655

>>7350329
I was hoping for Tenkyuu or comet since those fit her well. I also think that if she did an acoustic for Ghost, it would have been better because the instrumentals drowned her. Her raw voice sounds way better and you can hear the emotions clearly that way

>> No.7360159

>>7349699
GHOST is a really boring song no matter who sings it

>> No.7360168

do your sensuku reps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ittqDrlI1Bg

>> No.7360327

>>7360168
nihongo wakaranai

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>>7353357
Thanks anon!

>> No.7361267

will she stream today? i remember her saying she can't stream Aug 2,8. I bet Aug 8th is Towa's Birthday live.

>> No.7361398

>>7359390
Those three songs are vocaloid songs. The three artists gave the instrumentals with blanket permissions for use in cover songs, probably.

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hoshimachi~

>> No.7365545
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>Subaru playing FF7. She named Aerith, Suisei.
Looks like suityan's gonna die

>> No.7365691

Sensuku starts in 5min.
https://www.uniqueradio.jp/agplayer5/player.php
https://fms2.uniqueradio.jp/agqr10/aandg1.m3u8

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>>7365545
What is the reason for that?

ib4 suichan is actually that pretty irl

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>>7365900

>> No.7366086
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It's good that Koro likes 3:12

>> No.7366242

>>7366086
Anyone got a 3:12 wallpaper that that lets me pretend being a normalfag?

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>>7365900
aerith is a big dork so it fits

>> No.7366451

>>7365900
I have this unshakeable belief that Suisei is hot as fuck irl. I have no real reasoning behind this belief, there's just something deep in my soul that leads me to believe it to be true. Also Aqua did gush about how pretty Anemachi was after meeting her the first time, so it wouldn't be at all surprising if Suisei was similar

>> No.7366477

>>7366451
Use your brain. If she was hot as fuck she wouldn't be a failed idol turned vtuber now would she.

>> No.7366492
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>>7366451
cause she is hot as fuck irl

>> No.7366501

>>7366477
It doesn't work like that anon

>> No.7366530

>>7366501
I absolutely does. Looks are important IRL but any troglodyte can make it as a vtuber if they have other talents.

>> No.7366561

>>7366530
Like 90% of the Holo roommates that have faces out there are attractive, why would Suisei be any different just because someone was bad at their job and thought she wasn't good enough?

>> No.7366574

>>7366086
What's the sauce for this, anon? Saucenao is giving me nothing.

>> No.7366576

>>7366492
this was from amanekanatch btw
https://youtu.be/knE2Xv0y6wA

>> No.7366627

>>7366530
We already know she looks great coming from other holo members though

>> No.7366632

>>7366561
Also just adding to this, anything short of a picture showing her as actually being some fat pig isn't going to change my thought process on this. Not that that would change my opinion of her in any way either, she'd still be my oshi. And I'd still marry her ass in a heartbeat

>> No.7366646
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That IRyS cover is pretty decent.

>> No.7366656
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>>7366561
eh maybe migo, rushia and mel can be considered attractive, other? not so much

>> No.7366670

>>7366561
So naive. Let me teach you. No holo is actually attractive. They are all average. When people see roommates the natural expectation is someone super ugly but they see an average Japanese woman, pretty cute right? Could've been so much worse! That mismatch in expectations combined with mystique is what creates the illusion of attractiveness.

>> No.7366711

>>7366574
https://twitter.com/hievasp/status/1416461757447512066?s=20

>> No.7366736

>>7366656
Towa is pretty cute irl, don't mind most of the hags from what I've seen either. She's not a Holo anymore but god knows Coco a hot bitch.

>> No.7366749

>>7366501
I bet she did her cute dorky dancing and instantly failed.

>> No.7366757

I find fat unhealthy, but if it's Suisei we can work it out.

>> No.7366766

no one cares about what they look like irl, fuck off.

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>>7366736
yeah I forgot but pretty sure the entire Holohouse is hot af

>> No.7366785

>>7366670
why would you expect them to be ugly in the first place tho

just because someone likes the privacy you get with vtubing doesnt mean they're anxious about appearing ugly; dysphoria is a thing and it also saves girls makeup time either way. also less likely to be stalked/have awkward irl encounters/etc obviously

>> No.7366830

>>7366785
doesn't meant they're ugly* idk why i phrased it like that in the first post

>> No.7366907

>>7366785
Another thing to learn for life. People are wired to expect the worst. There is a negativity bias built into humans as a survival mechanism.

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>>7366477
have you seen how anal suichan is about everything? my headcanon is that suichan only failed cause she applied for huge agencies and had to compete with thousand of other, also explain why she said she was rejected because she is a jack of all trades.

>> No.7367041

>>7366907
we're built to prepare for the worst when it's directly related to our survival lmao; what you're doing is trying to play off your pessimism as common sense which is just blatantly silly

>> No.7367141

>>7366711
Thank you, it's wonderful.

>>7366736
Towa irl is MAD cute.

>> No.7367287
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7367287

Also the word Akutan used to describe Anemachi is 別嬪, uncommon but pretty sure only used to describe exceptional beauty. So rest assured guys, Anemachi and Suichan are both insanely pretty.

>> No.7367431

Why the fuck are people discussing these things? Stop this shit

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>>7367431
for no particular reason

>> No.7367582

>>7366670
Nah. Mel is pretty hot

>> No.7367665
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>>7367478

>> No.7367744

>>7367431

You will experience vtubers growing up, and either quitting or breaking into something thats more comfortable for them. Your idol is not a soulless automata, there is a person behind the mask.

>> No.7367830

>7367744
Yes and? It's an hypothetical question, don't answer, I don't care

>> No.7367960

>>7366986
>how anal suichan
I didn't know that

>> No.7368035

>>7367431
It's weekend anon, pardon our random rambling.

But I for sure is looking forward to that day when Suisei debuts in real life. Her voice tells me she's really fit.

We have a lot of good fat singers here in the Philippines, and there's always that distinct quality when they sing. So it's the same from what I've observed with JP.

>> No.7368364

>>7361267
stream at 22
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1421765357526675459

>> No.7368660

>>7367041
>we're built to prepare for the worst when it's directly related to our survival lmao
mfw youre making me think of what might happen if suityan decides to leave cover. at least well still have her

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>>7368364
https://youtu.be/_RsCsb6sVgU

>> No.7368727
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>>7367830

>> No.7368897
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7368897

>mfw Suitytan's birthday was already 4 months ago
what the fuck

>> No.7368945
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7368945

>>7366477
The feeling that I get from her is that she's too strong willed and talented to be a mere idol. I really don't think she was lying when she said that the agencies wanted someone that they can easily control.

>>7366451
I recall Marine or Aqua saying that the sisters looked like twins.

>> No.7368951

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQ0LGZUvv8

>> No.7369012
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>post what you think when you see this image

>> No.7369066
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>>7369012

>> No.7369097

>>7369012
suicha

>> No.7369156

>>7369012
Feels "We are finally making our dreams come true! Keep fighting!

>> No.7369175
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>>7369012
This >>7369066
Flat girls are nice to hug cause you can get closer to their heart.

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>>7369012

>> No.7369276
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>>7369012
I want to hug her body

>> No.7369536

Mario Kart today

>> No.7369601
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>>7349699
>gets to 500k subs just by existing
>covers Ghost, a personal song about Suichan's own struggles, feelings and journey as a vtuber

It was a technically accurate cover but thematically a bit tone deaf.

>> No.7369658

Nobody fucking asked

>> No.7369659

>>7369601
GHOST is meant to lift all Vtubers up, anon. IRyS is no exception.
https://youtu.be/O0Ni3iTzzSA?t=170

>> No.7369697

>>7369659
lift irys up where? she and the rest of the hololive vtubers of recent times have been born into success

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>>7366986
>>7367960
>how anal suichan

Kind reminder that Suisei's asshole is all slimy and smooth inside so she can poop easier, not so you can rub your dick against her sensitive anal walls until you fill it with your fresh semen. Only degenerates would want to cum inside an idol's warm and soft butt while her head is down in a pillow. The same degenerates who would enjoy going balls deep inside her poop chute, the most private and intimate part of her body, before slowly and gently sliding out so Suichan can enjoy the faux sensation of taking a long and satisfying dump while her anal muscles twitch and coil lovingly around their penis. And when they get close to cumming, they would do unimaginable things like fully taking their dick out with a loud and wet plop before resting it on her soft butt cheek, admiring the lewd gaping of her messy and wet shit hole and the slimy juices oozing out of it as she squeals in embarrassment. Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.7369804

>>7369601
All of Suisei's songs are about the same things. it's getting repetitive. That's probably why i prefer her earlier work when she was still fresh and had some soul.

>> No.7369849

>>7369697
Their specific Hololive selves start off successful, yes, but certainly not the streamers behind them. It takes a shitload of hardwork and dedication to pass Cover's auditions, that alone should be rewarded.

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lol, I was actually about to reply

>> No.7369886

>>7369849
But it's not talking about the struggle of all content creators. It's talking about the personal struggles of vtubers and how they're being written off as a vtuber without being given the time of day. Which isn't the case with Irys as she was born into success from the get go.

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>>7369601
You surely missed the point. She wants to be acknowledged just as much as any aspiring artist. Irys acknowledges her as a great singer. She loves her songs. A cover is pretty much a nod to that. Anyways, they sound great together. Suisei's voice blends really well with Irys. Noone is drowned. I would love to hear an official cover from the two.

https://youtu.be/r3noFBWeTR0

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>>7345082
I got my tube out while watching tubeout.

>>7369707
She hates yaoi so she probably wont be into anal. She seems like she'd prefer to be on top, riding you like a horse who's well being she doesn't care for instead of being face down and ass up.

>> No.7370076

suityan...?
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1421787574197055490

>> No.7370078

>>7367830

if you dont care then dont post, you autistic retard.

>> No.7370086

>>7369886
It's talking about the prejudice towards Vtubers in general and how people are not giving them a chance. Irys is the same. Even more so because we have assholes like you who are judging and nitpicking her actions as if there is something malicious behind them when in fact the girl just wants to celebrate her Senpai's songs.

>> No.7370173

>>7370086
500k people have already given irys a chance without her doing anything. That's the exact opposite of what she's went through and what she experienced.

>> No.7370319

>>7370076
Schizo Mario Kart, let's go!

Or rather, it's more like an adaption of Matsuri's Acting Interview game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS61ujQ3pxY

>> No.7370324

>>7370086
I don't hate Irys by any means, but as a vtuber she has never been a dancer in the dark

>> No.7370351

ok do your reps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9tsfkdgByA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYFciXBcXIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfDYRy17CBY

almost 5mln
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjlMPu5sEgw

>> No.7370355

>>7370032
What about Suichan on her back while you nut buckets all over her flat chest while she scowls?

>> No.7370356

She covered a song you fucking boring retards, stop overanalysing everything.

>> No.7370415

>>7370173
Are you stupid or what. Suichan got a boost after joining Hololive. Her progress got sped up 10x after her model was redone and then she got a 3D with a concert to boot. She got a leg up. Just because Irys has 500k subs doesn't meam 500k people are watching her btw. Not all of those 500k subscribed right off the bat. 60% only did after the debut. If Suichan joined today she will definitely get the same if not more subs than Irys and people like you will discredit her just the same. Irys is acknowledging her as a singer and thus covering her song.

>> No.7370432

>>7370324
She has always been part of that group anon. She has been way longer than Suichan has ever decided to even start her own career.

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>>7370415
You're talking in suppositories and assumptions. The fact of the matter is that Irys didn't have the same personal struggle as other vtubers did, especially around the time Suisei started when she did. It doesn't matter if Suisei started today, because she didn't, and her personal struggle and her perception of the times and reception of vtubers from the general public is what gave rise to GHOST. You keep on trying to muddle the entire matter by relating it to things that don't matter but the fact is that irys didn't and won't experience the same things that GHOST is talking about. It's just not the same.

>> No.7370478

Roommate baiting? Nice, there are less than 10 posts until bump limit anyway.

>> No.7370603

>>7370465
You must be on another level of bait here. Irys has worked and grinded way longer. She has released several works without actually getting big numbers except for a couple of MVs. She has released 110+ covers for the past 10 years consistently. The fact that she stayed on and got accepted is a testament of that hardwork. She probably resonated the most with the song because of the fact that she feels that Hololive is a sign of that recognition. Everyone already understands that the struggle isn't really when you get in Hololive but is before you get in because of the sheer amount of competition you have.

>> No.7370673

>>7370478
It's not like there's anything to bait.

>> No.7370754

>>7370603
Irys literally debuted this same year. If she's a 10 year old vtuber then props to her for being older even than Kizuna Ai

>> No.7370758

>>7370673
Yeah, hard to roommate bait Suisei when it's just not there.

>> No.7370866

>>7370754
Lurk more. She's an utaite in NND that streams as most of the past holos are. She has done 2 EPs. An Anime song. Over a hundred covers. Has been featured in over 10 other artist albums/eps. She started early.

>> No.7370916

>>7370866
I mean, might as well link that Renai Circulation cover for him.

>> No.7371001

>>7370866
No, I prefer to not talk about roommate shit since I don't care about it and this thread isn't the place for it.
Lurk more.

>> No.7371070

>>7371001
Lol. Keep hating then

>> No.7371073
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7371073

Instead of arguing, do your reps or at least doing them while typing your essay:

https://youtu.be/vQHVGXdcqEQ
https://youtu.be/zLak0dxBKpM
https://youtu.be/ZfDYRy17CBY
https://youtu.be/3cqV5BKJHyk

>> No.7371115

>>7371070
So this is what the audience of irys is like. You look at the entire line of discussion and still think that people are "hating" on her. I highly implore you to stay away from these threads and stick to her threads if this is the kind of discussion you want to bring.

>> No.7371128
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SoraSui Love!

https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1421756285679116288

>>7370351
We all just forgot about Absolute 5, didn't we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiekN5DmNZE

>> No.7371173

>>7371115
Taking high ground, eh? Despite the one who brought up her in the first place and put baseless hate on her.

>> No.7371273

>>7371173
The original statement was that it was thematically tone deaf. If this for some reason was misconstrued as hate then that's not my issue. Everything is high ground when you play the victim.

>> No.7371303

>irys covering Suisei's song
>thread full with off-topic,narrative,roommate,bait and hornypost
This is a similiar situation when Suisei was invited on chicken probably the same people trying to bait.Hopefuly the next thread become better

>> No.7371350

>>7371303
I like to think it's the same person arguing with himself to derail the thread(and probably it is).

>> No.7371363

>>7370866
>utaites are the same as vtubers

>> No.7371394

>>7371303
>>7371350
Talking about the problem isn't really any different. Just ignore it.

>> No.7371710
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7371710

'ate doxniggers
'ate samefaggers
'ate hornyomi
'ate goslings
'ate eops
not a jap just don't loik 'em
'ate discordtrannies
not a sikrit klub member just don't think they fit our culture

luv suichan

simple as

>> No.7371864

Bump limit reached and "they" go away

>> No.7372009

>>7371128
If Error turns out to be a horror game of some kind, I hope Suityan plays it.

>> No.7372105

>>7372009
Part of me fears it'll be a AR game, so the Holos wouldn't be able to stream it.

>> No.7372123

remember to remove tubeout in the OP if you're gonna make a new thread

>> No.7372151

>>7367830
I assume you meant rhetorical question

>> No.7372536

>>7372151
Yes, ESL leaking

>> No.7372570

5min for suistream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RsCsb6sVgU

>> No.7372622

>>7372123
the archive is still up until the 7th for purchase, I believe

>> No.7373008

>>7372622
So should it be changed from upcoming events to "the tubeout archive is still available to purchase until the 7th" or something like that?

>> No.7373358

Suityan your throat...

>> No.7373368

She's gonna strain her voice..

>> No.7373380

So this is a screaming stream?

>> No.7373660

I love Suisei.

But girl your voice, don't kill it...

>> No.7373688

>>7373380
Since the game has decided to give her 10 mushrooms per match, apparently so.

>> No.7373695

I know it's fake crying but crying Suityan turns me on so much.

>> No.7373818

This stream is a prime example of why you need to take your meds

>> No.7373981
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7373981

suichan please...

>> No.7374089

She ain't listening to us anons, should we take our own meds?

>> No.7374117

All these kinoko are going to break her and her voice

>> No.7374131

>>7373818
>>7373981
She's self-medicating with shrooms

>> No.7374145

She's popping off LMAO

>> No.7374191

>>7373695
Yankee Suityan is where the money is. Shit get's me going like nothing else.

>> No.7374524

>>7374191
Going where?

>> No.7374843

>>7374524
To my Koikatsu card collection.

>> No.7374866

>>7374191
Femdom Suityan...

>> No.7374884

>>7374191
For me, it's deep voice Suityan.

>> No.7374891

Someone save me, I can't keep up with this stream either

>> No.7374897

mushroom-san...

>> No.7375080

>>7374891
Deep voice is nice to, but when she starts throwing around the temee and the konoyarou and rolling the Rs is my fetish.

>> No.7375188

>>7374191
If you say to me that Suisei is a delinquent IRL I can believe it

>> No.7375207

>That brief pause of despair whenever she gets a gold mushroom

>> No.7375242

>>7375188
She's too much of an otaku now, but I think she could have gone through a phase.

>> No.7375694

This group...
https://twitter.com/esta_vesna/status/1421820491157827590/photo/1

>> No.7375716

shiraken collab when??

>> No.7375732

This stream turned out way funnier than I was expecting

>> No.7375865
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7375865

I love my crazy Suityan, she forgot to take her meds today.

>> No.7375899

>>7375716
Aug 3rd

>> No.7375930
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7375930

Suichan please remember to do your honey rep tonight...

>> No.7376003
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7376003

10/10 stream

>> No.7376090

https://twitter.com/ino_tac/status/1421827792539308045
https://twitter.com/ino_tac/status/1421831039412969473
Inotac was enjoying the stream

>> No.7376170

>>7376090
kek

>> No.7376255

That was a pretty KINO-ko stream

>> No.7376417

I hope the Shiraken collab is GTA

>> No.7376690

One of the best moments from the last Tokomachi Radio got clipped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQ0LGZUvv8

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