/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

why did she reject vshojo? It's the best en corpo and she was an easy walk-in...

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
she's traumatized by corpos

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Imposter syndrome, she barely got convinced to stream again in general

[Anonymous No.]

She left Nijisanji because she wanted to get embrace her love of Japanese idols and get away from the western whores.
It wouldn't make sense to join another group of western whores.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive or nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
when did she say she reject vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
>best en corpo
lol,lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>72798125
In the podcast announcement stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>72797631
i hope hololive don't let her in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
>we have all summer
>I'm not joining Vshojo YET
She didn't, you fool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Being an Indie is better.

[Anonymous No.]

who

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
She could still be joining Vshojo.
Matara specifically said Mint won't be joining Vshojo, but she could still join as someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Vshojo is in danger of just becoming nijiEN 2.0 if it keeps absorbing ex-nijis and she probably knows she would doubtless be a huge contributor to that if she joined. She specifically left nijiEN to get away from the drama clique shit in the first place, if she goes right back to it I (and it seems many others) will consider her a weaker person for it, it's be like she has battered wife syndrome about Niji basically so went back to some facsimile of it.

Everyone assumes she can just walk into Cover headquarters and become a HoloEN but that reflects retarded kid thinking IMO and I highly doubt it is that easy. No, Kiara cannot just hire people if she feels like it, she'd probably have to play all her cards and push all the buttons merely to make EN management take a second/third look at her and there might be some stupid high r-up internal policy like "we try not to hire ex Nijis" after Luna that could bar her irrelevant to her talent/worthiness.

She's generally too big for any small corpo besides Phase maybe and it just feels so out of place for her to be there as they are not an idol corpo at all, I cannot imagine her taking that position instead of just remaining indie. So there may not really be realistic options for her besides indie or vshojo. Given how successful Doki is Pomu could be fine as an indie really, she would even get to keep more than 2% of merch sales. If Cover wants to be fucking stupid and do nothing that is up to them because Mint is that uncommon variant of female Western weeb who genuinely likes a lot of what Cover offers, vs standard twitch indies having basically no interest in idols or Japan outside of pure financial gain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72797631
Hololive is that old decrepit empire that's slowly losing relevance. Once, it was the center of vtubing but nowadays, it's seldom found outside hololive bubbles or one-off collabs.

It's still a golden ticket for many, but for big indies and other successful chuubas who can view through the brand image BS for what it is, a Japanese corpo with tight control over its talents, it has zero appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
>I can’t shake my ass 24/7, thus I say DOWN WITH THE EMPIRE
Very odd

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
Okay nijinigger, seethe at how 5th fes was a success and Holo taking over the Japanese and oversea market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
bizarre bait, have a (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799012
>YET
so basically she's waiting to see if she got the EN4 golden ticket

[Anonymous No.]

vshojo offers nothing but a branding.
The only people who got figurines are Nyanners and vei and they are out LMAO. Silver made her own figurine.
Concerts? Talent managed and made.
Covers? Also talents job.
Voice and Dance training? We are just an agency here to get you RAID shadow legends deals lmao.
Vshitshow has no value to a person like Mint. She has big dreams and none of them are facilitated through this company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
Preach sister! Plappa connect is the future!

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799195
Stop begging Pomufag. Hiring Pomu does nothing for Hololive. Everyone already knows her, her audience is already established. She will not bring anything new except retarded refugees like you who will contaminate the fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799692
Are you retarded or just incredibly angry? Honest question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799785
Do you want more Shioris in the future who clearly give zero fucks about anything in Cover or do you want more people who actually might reasonably connect to it and feel like they belong there? The pool of the former is infinitely deep and the latter is very shallow and always was in the West.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799842
Nta but he is just spilling facts, vshojo doesn't actually do a lot besides exist to suck up other peoples' clout and pretend they accomplished something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799842
vshojo has no value and your post doesnt disprove this.
In all facets they offer even less to the talents than nijisanji but at least it isnt a toxic enviroment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799865
I’d rather not have Nerissa 2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799922
Half of it is either completely wrong or willingly misinterpreted. Kson and Henya at minimum have figurines coming. They have managers that assist them in whatever the fuck they want to do. They accommodated Henya so well that she never has to leave her house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Because she's aiming for the top, Hololive.
She needs to wait for EN4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799865
NijisanjiEN first wave was created in direct opposition to HololiveEN. Now Niji has lost you want to switch team and pretend we are all good?
Shiori actually brings in the audience and money despite all the rrats you try to cook up.
And like i said, Pomu brings nothing new, she is too well-known. Hiring her is like VShojo picking up used talents past their prime who can only bring their leftover audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800149
>Half of it is untrue
>but they are totally planning for kson and henya to have figures (I cant post proof though)
>they have managers that assist them
what I said:
>they have no value and offer nothing
i will add specially to mint the fucking idolfag
>no voice and dance lessons (true)
>no assistance with covers and originals (true)
>no plans to setup company produced concerts (true)
so, none of mints goals can be facilitated through vshitshow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800395
You absolute disingenuous faggot. They made a concert for Henya after four fucking months. They can hire whoever the fuck they need to give her what she wants at warp speed.
More importantly,
MINT
IS
NEVER
JOINING
HOLOLIVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800587
nta
>MINT IS NEVER JOINING HOLOLIVE
I hope that is true, holochads do not want her.
Pomufags keep falseflag begging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800587
did they give henya the concert or was that henya's doing on her own?
i also dont give a shit which company she wants to join, im just saying that vshojo has no value for the goals she has in mind from what I understand.
If what I know about her is true, than in the long term online concerts in vrchat arent gonna cut it. Mint wants a real audience and a real stage. Vshitshow cant provide that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800587
I!d be very grateful not to have ex-Nijis aboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796671
>>72796699
What these guys said. Severe trauma and severe impostor syndrome, same as nearly all other ex-Nijis.

Also she just got back from Japan, and hasn't been in Not Japan long enough to even look at a Vshojo contract with a lawyer, much less actually sign it and officially join them. But she seems content being Honorary Vshojo for now; and keep in mind that Kson and Haruka and Geega were all also Honorary Vshojo for months before officially joining Vshojo.
Also also, the only substantial differences between "Honorary Vshojo" and "Official Vshojo" are in merchandising/marketing and tax purposes, and Matara is nullifying half of that by helping Mint on the merchandising/marketing thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800690
I'm assuming they mean the vshojo candy pop concert. the company organized everything but talent had input on their own songs if they wanted to

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800752
Then why seethe all day over Mint basically crashing on Vshojo's couch for the summer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
>Hololive is that old decrepit empire that's slowly losing relevance.
Phasecuck immediately outing himself.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm cool if minty fresh joins hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799692
lol, there's a clip or product to disprove everything, except for the voice&dance training thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799692
>The only people who got figurines are Nyanners and vei and they are out LMAO. Silver made her own figurine.
Ironmouse and Kson have a Nendroid. And both Zentreya, Melody and Henya also worked with the company who made Silver's figure.
>Concerts? Talent managed and made.
Still need some to basically check out everything, it's a stupidly complicated process that Ironmouse would have never done it herself. While it's true they don't have their own, only if Mint joins Hololive this would be easier for her than doing it alone.
>Covers? Also talents job.
While true, it was through VShojoJP they worked with people in the industry of JPop and KPop.
>Voice and Dance training? We are just an agency here to get you RAID shadow legends deals lmao.
Kuro said just this morning, besides getting them sponsors, they are paying his therapy appointments (same that Froot, Nyanners, Melody and Matara have used/use them too), JP lessons and singing lessons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800873
I’m not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
I honestly hope Mint stays an Indie. But the real question is: does she have what it takes to be an Indie? In order to be an Indie, you need three things. First, a team to assist you, for example, friends and employees. Second, networking, which means putting yourself out there in the limelight by talking to potential collaborators and sponsors. And third, drive, which is the motivation to work hard as a Vtuber, pushing projects, hosting/participating in events, and doing things you normally wouldn't. Can Mint do these things?

[Rich Investor No.]

>>72796453
From what I understand the Niji contract prevents her from working for another corp for 6 months. So she might just be going "indie" until the time limit is up and then joining officially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72801574
>they are paying his therapy appointments (same that Froot, Nyanners, Melody and Matara have used/use them too), JP lessons and singing lessons.
Sorry, they pay for them but Kuro is not taking the last two
https://youtu.be/eWTNLW6Frcc?t=13271

[Anonymous No.]

>>72801615
It didn't stop Kuro or Matara from joining Vshojo after 1-3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

She has more then enough publicity to make it on her own. Freedom > corpo rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>72801615
Only another JP corp. So even if there's any chance of Holo taking her, it's not possible for at least another 3 months+. NA corps are not bound by this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72801877
>It didn't stop Kuro or Matara from joining Vshojo after 1-3 months.
Vshojo is a Western company so the Niji contract probably doesn't apply. What if Mint wants to join a Japanese company? That's why Mint is buying her time.

[Anonymous No.]

She's burned by composition and don't need the exposure a corpo can give her anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72803928
>composition
Corposhit

[Anonymous No.]

>>72803928
This is how your numbers look when you don't have pity suicide views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72803233
3 months ain't too bad when you consider holoEN gets one new gen a year (if we're lucky and it's not just more homos); it's well short of a year since Advent and they still feel kinda new so it seems very unlikely there'd be another new EN gen for like half a year+, and we can guess that the Cover pre-debut training period takes like three months average (maybe more or less, seems to vary but it's generally a couple months). So there would easily be time for her to wait out the noncom and someone at Cover would shoot her an email and see if she's still interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72804036
Pomu also was like half or a third-ish of Selen's noombers depending when you checked generally, she simply was not as popular as laughing dragon. I'd say she'd be doing fine if she at least hangs onto 4view status really since she didn't get boosted via drama megaphone.

Doki had an extremely unusual (if not unparalleled) situation of millions of views of free advertising from disparate parts of the internet, that just ain't gonna happen for Pomu and she'll just inherit the Pomu fans onto Mint. I think she'd manage to remain solid however since her fans carrying over are probably going to be pretty stable and aren't gonna be rubberneckers there for a month or two max because Asmongold or whatever mentioned her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72803928
this is the kind of situation that vshojo is made for, quite literally. if she does start streaming again she's going to immediately have a large audience wanting merch and companies offering sponsorships (doki who's in a similar situation JUST talked about being overwhelmed on the business side), vshojo handles all the non-creative aspects of streaming so the talent can focus on the fun part. I don't want her for tribal reasons, I think she should join primarily because she's going to need the support and finding a manager and setting that shit up as an indie is stressful because there's no guarantee who you're getting is good. vshojo employees are vetted by talent she already trusts (matara, mouse, henya) and the talent will fight for her if something is wrong because they're friends. and look at all the indies being scammed by merch providers lately, a company like vshojo will take the financial hit in the event of this kind of issue so the talent is unaffected

[Anonymous No.]

>>72804185
Pretty much. All the subs she's gaining right now are active viewers. Her ccv and revenue will be carried by pomudachis, who get their oshi back. A bit of networking with old friends, a fun collab here and there, and she'll be just fine without contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72804185
>I think she'd manage to remain solid however since her fans carrying over are probably going to be pretty stable and aren't gonna be rubberneckers there for a month or two max because Asmongold or whatever mentioned her.
It's not like Doki didn't have her own stable fans. Drama-thirsty passers-by caused crazy numbers, but now they're mostly left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
>holo fans mad she choses vshojo
>vshojo fans mad she rejects vshojo
who am i supposed to believe here

[Anonymous Mogul No.]

>>72796453
>>72798321

[Anonymous No.]

>>72798125
Watch streams catalogfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800873
4chan is not just one person anon, is that hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72805421
No, 4chan is a hivemind now get with the program like the rest of /vt/.

[Anonymous Mogul No.]

>>72797631
But FuwaMoco, you're already a part of Hololive. No need to revert back to your pre-debut selves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
she didn't reject vshojo. gunrun is hinting at BIG things happening soon and mint still has to wait out her non-compete before she can join another company. 07/20. remember that date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72805949
Literally shut the fuck up with your already-debunken rrat. Mint couldn't have been any more direct with how she said she was not going into Vshojo. She was even talking about long-term stuff such as potential events and cons, and she said that Vshojo will only help her a bit with stuff like that through Mata but that's it. Matara was even complaining about people like (You) assuming she's some sort of recruiter trying to rope anyone she talks/interacts with into Vshojo, while she just wants to interact with them.

Since I know you don't watch streams there's even a clip of that already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3AWm_pdXZo

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
She associates with vshojo and still works with them in some capacity even if she doesn't officially join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72805949
I wouldn't call almost 4 months from now "soon"

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806057
>Mint couldn't have been any more direct with how she said she was not going into Vshojo.
Remember when she also said she would never leave nijisanji? She doesn't always speak the truth about this sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806163
/vsj+/ is a thing for a reason. vshojo actually interacts with and is friendly with vtubers from across the EN sphere. compare that to hololive who never leave their tiny little bubble.

[Anonymous Mogul No.]

>>72799195
It's already NijiEN 2.0 because of that grifter roach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799195
holofags never seem to consider that she doesn't have any interest in joining their corpo. all of mint's friends and her kamioshi are in vshojo. what connection does she have to hololive? a couple of collabs with kiara? that's nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Son, it's time to get off /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800656
I don't want her in Hololive. There is absolutely no benefit to her being in Hololive to me or her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
>best en corpo
you are a delusional retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806352
It's nijisanji, you fucking moron. that place is volatile and once you're out of the clique they make your life hell. completely no comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806378
It makes me wonder if Vshojo will "adopt" more indie vtubers like Mint for semi-official merchandise deals or sponsorships without them needing to join the group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806378
>associate with all the grifers
>thinks its a good thing
That's how you got Veibae the whore and Rushia the menhera retard in your company in the first place

[Anonymous Mogul No.]

>>72805949
Gunrun can gun himself for all I care. His shit-tier twitch thot corpo is nothing but a big pile of garbage.<div class="xa24desu"></div>

[Anonymous Mogul No.]

>>72806057
glad to know that we live in that godawful grifter roach's head rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Zaion and Pomu are not core clique members.
Clique is dead nlw

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
unironically, too over qualified.
she is too big to take the risk in the current vtubing market status. Cover prefers to build them from zero, and Vshojo's chuubas are getting worried of too many ex nijis in the house

[Anonymous No.]

>>72809016
>Vshojo's chuubas are getting worried of too many ex nijis in the house
I've seen a similar comment a few days ago about Mouse being aware/nervous about vsj being seen as the ex Nijien foster home. Is there a clip or source for this rrat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Because Traumasanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>72809139
source: pagpag-induced /#/fag delusions

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
She seeks true power

[Anonymous No.]

she's probably afraid of being labeled as a traitor if she joins right away. We all know how schizos the nijisisters are.

[Anonymous No.]

>72804036
Not worth the (You). The fact she lives rent free in your mind is all the W needed, Sonic says.
>>72803928
I will say I’m willing to wait for her on 4/4 to see the numbers because I’m fairly sure not everyone want her to associate with Matara. The podcasts are gonna lose traction fast, they only work when there is debate and arguments inside, in streamer culture you put together different ideas and views to make them popular.
The major reason she may not join Vshojo is one: Twitch. Japanese people barely touch it, Youtube is more mainstream. Joining Vshojo will force her to use it more and more to stick around the corpo and keep her further and further from her desired culture.
Also people doomposting “Vshojo will be NijiEN 2.0” are idiots, Vshojo has actual staff and not jp high schoolers. You saw how they deal with drama, cutting it in half is not a problem for them.
Maybe Mint can get in but whoever tries to be a bitch will get a kick out in obscurity as fast as possible. Ethyria can’t survive in Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
>literal whole stream and first episode is Nina telling Pomu she's a good entertainer
>going out of her way to buy her a new rig and get her merch
>thousands show up between her twitter and PL
>pomu: guys idk if I can be a fun streamer....

[Anonymous No.]

>>72814536
>Maybe Mint can get in but whoever tries to be a bitch will get a kick out in obscurity as fast as possible.
It's the Mouse's House. If she likes 'em they stay, and if she doesn't they don't. Silvervale said as much herself and while on one hand she's menhera on the other hand Mousey does the "everyone is my best friend forever!" schtick that I've seen enough of to know Silvervale was completely fucking right. There's no such thing as a good person who does that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72814536
>Niji take 50% of earnings, up to 98% for merch; have talents managing eachother because they won't pay for staff
>VShojo take nothing and have staff coming out their ears
How does this work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72814751
I didn't follow the reply chain but if anon's implying that then he's retarded? Vshojo opened the company saying they only take a merch split and nothing else so at the very least they take something.

[Anonymous No.]

>Reject western whore corpo
Unfathomably based

[Anonymous No.]

she will join for monetary purposes when she realises not everyone can be dokibird

[Anonymous No.]

>>72812104
Thanks for confirming. I wish a miserable death on all numbersisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
Kiara made her think that she has way more pull than what she actually has

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
She didn’t reject them, they’re getting her used to streaming again before they announce it at AX. Do you seriously think they would put all this money into a temporary podcast?

[Anonymous No.]

So what do you think, how many Finana will her comeback pull? And how many Finana will she pull in the long run?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72814710
Show proof. I don’t remember Silver ever saying anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
She's going to Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72815917
You don't remember the "just because someone says they talk to someone else a lot doesn't mean they actually are" speech she had? It even reached the catalog for a good week, but okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ3j_-NyGfI

[Anonymous No.]

>>72816053
that literally confirms nothing of what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72816266
There is only one person in Vshojo who is insistent on the fact that she talks with and is besties with literally everyone she's ever interacted with. Who do (you) think she was talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72816302
She was talking about mouse but it doesn't confirm what you said at all, mouse holds no grudge against Silvervale, defended her while she was harassed during the hogwarts harassment and still sometimes talks postively about her.
Also you are right that Silvervale is a menhera. That's why she said that and posted this tweet.
The idea that mouse forced her out is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72816615
>She was talking about mouse but it doesn't confirm what you said at all
What point did you read across my posts? I said Mouse was a fake bitch, and we have a first-hand accounting of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799865
low effort shitpost, shiori is unironically good now
>Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72816869
The fake bitch is obviously Silver. She even deleted that VOD after Filian reacted to it.
Still either way, it doesn't really support what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796671
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
She is based

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800690
>did they give henya the concert
well, the concert was already in the works but they moved a lot of things around so Henya could be included:
>made her the 3D model that was used in it and in a few VRChat streams afterwards
>wrote her (and Haruka) the song Umbrella
>the bit before the two songs (other's a cover) was based on Henya's "9IQ" moments
>they made the choreography for both of them
basically, Henya's part in the process was giving her voice. and no, unlike with corpos, she didn't have to leave her home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806057
> Matara was even complaining about people like (You) assuming she's some sort of recruiter trying to rope anyone she talks/interacts with into Vshojo
which is good news, VShojo is free from the threat of the clique entering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72806664
buy a PC and wired internet you SEA fuck

[Anonymous No.]

This is why she failed at making nijisanji more known in the west. she never took chances or innovate. She could have been the gura of nijisanji instead she stagnated. It truly was an all out war and they got obliterated on all sides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72798588
>>72805313
All she said was that she isn't in VShojo, there was no mention of whether they even approached her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800149
Do vshojo managers also sign fan letters and write voice pack scripts too? That's awesome!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>72803363
Why would she come back just to graduate into another company?
Why would she even want to get anywhere near Japanese business autism again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799692
>We are just an agency
You clearly don't know what an agency actually does

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799865
>Do you want more Shioris in the future who clearly give zero fucks about anything
Least obvious holo anti

>>72816925
>now
She's always been cute though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72798125
She didn't. She just said she wasn't part of them currently because people were confused. However Vshojo is funding the whole thing and she'll be joining their minecraft server like most Vshojo friends do. Much like Geega and Pikamee before her and we know how that turned out.
They're also doing meet and greets at Offkai together.
https://twitter.com/OffKaiExpo/status/1775191491280879947

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800395
Henya was in a concert like what, 3-4 months after joining and she had little experience with singing, however they helped her figure out the best type of song for her and how to sing what parts in the big song together with everyone at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72809139
Doesn't exist. Mouse will shit talk idiots on stream on occasion but she hasn't mentioned niji a single time since they've been in this endless drama cycle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
holy niji-phase-vshojo joint copium

[Anonymous No.]

>>72816869
my favorite part about Silver's rant is you can see she was lying about the timeframe by looking up the VRchat recording of them hanging out just a couple months before she sperged out where she hugged mouse and told her how much she meant to her and how great she was and Mouse did the same. Then as soon as Silver leaves she tries to complain that Mouse just didn't talk to her enough specifically by saying "what is a friend, someone who doesn't speak to you in 9 months" or whatever goofy timeframe she gave. Silver lost the plot with mouse as soon as mouse started becoming hugely successful and getting big numbers because early on Silver was way ahead of her. That's why she would frequently have breakdowns on twitter about numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72824847
also ironically, all this talk about "idols" with mint and the song the concert ended on with everyone together was "idol"
If you want to do idol shit Vshojo isn't going to tell you know, they're going to try to help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72829894
Mouse, and Geega are also both hardcore idol fans notably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72796453
she is just going but is probably getting some stuff set up

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799865
well, you bring up a good point: what does the future of EN look like? Is it to create content that appeals to an audience outside of anime conventions? Then they need will have to hire those who are "Shiori" and "Nerissa" types. If Cover is fine with only being niche and very small in the west, then they can continue their current hiring practices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72800656
Why ate those who label themselves "Holochads" invariably the most insufferable and obnoxious Holoposters barring unikeks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799865
Shiori actually cares about tech and will tardwrangle.
Funnily enough, both things that nijisanji and vshojo desperately find lacking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72799228
N8 b8 m8 r8 8/8
>Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72830501
If you mean the way concerts look as in tech, fair enough, but that's also because it's very expensive. However taking care of like, computers and other hardware of the talents, Vshojo has gotten high end computers out to all of them. Gunrun has personally gone to some of their houses to help set them up, and is always at the conventions handling all the livestreaming tech for appearances since that's his forte.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72830776
Didn't ironmouse's concert look like it was made in yandere sim?

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>>72830983
Are you illiterate?

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>>72799228
Anon, trolling or not you perfectly described Nijisanji. They use to be at the top of the world, supposedly the "best 3D", high stocks, popular chuubas and now look at them....

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>>72831166
Calm down retard I didn't mean to quote you specifically
I was just asking since we're talking about tech and shit

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>>72796671
>She has ptsd from losing her all out war.
Lel

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Vshitshow is a group, not a corpo

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>>72831623
tbf everyone has ptsd from StarsEN still existing

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>>72831678
imagine the PTSD of realizing that even the fucking sub 100k subscribers Armis are outdoing Luxium and Noctyx in CCV and Supas nowadays

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>>72796453
>best en corpo
lol
lmao even

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>>72821736
bro she literally said that she was traumatized on a twitter space
sorry if facts hurt your feelings

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>>72796453
bros the holodream is real

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>>72830983
That wasn't a Vshojo concert, that was Mouse's own concert who she had issues with the production companies involved and she footed the bill for herself. She credited Vshojo for constantly helping her get through all the bullshit and runarounds the production were giving her and it not being a total flop that nearly didn't even release. She didn't want to name the companies because they were high profile, and didn't want to burn bridges with said companies, but they essentially took her for a ride. Suffice to say she will likely not work with those same people again.

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>>72799228
Show me someone who can attract 181k viewers by debuting their mother I'm waiting

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>>72838544
That's cute, but 118 million people watched Mouse win her trophy at the game awards last year.

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>>72838139
Here comes the goalpost moving... I thought vshojo had super duper high tech shit? If so why the fuck is Mousey contracting other people to handle it?

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>>72840263
Are you retarded? The company has little to do with making 3D concerts, why would she, when making her own concert, ask someone within the company to handle that? That's not their forte. Gunrun's tech revolves around livestreaming and other PC and camera shit. Implying anyone there are pros when it comes to 3D Modeling or adding lighting to a 3D enviroment is stupid. If Vshojo could do literally everything they would never collab with anyone else for anything. Do you think they think they stitch their own shirts and plushes themselves as well? It's normal for a company to get together with other people to handle things. In this case it was entirely Mouse's idea for her own concert though and she went with who she wanted to do things.

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>>72839350
Wow, so 118 million people tuned into the game awards just to watch Ironmouse? Very impressive!

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>>72838139
>Ironmouse's 3D concert almost dies due to 3rd party fuckups
>Nijisanji EN's 3D concert got delayed due to 3rd party studios fuckups
>Neo-Porte's 3D debuts gets delayed due to 3rd party studio fuckups

Seems like Cover's strategy of developing 3D production in-house while expensive gives them more crucial control over avoiding a lot of issues working with outsiders.

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>>72796453
Gotta give Griftara some time to work her magic

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>>72828995
>>72826434
Watch streams while paying attention. Get a working brain. Every time vshojo was mentioned it was clear she won't be joining them.

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>>72841677
>>Nijisanji EN's 3D concert got delayed due to 3rd party studios fuckups
What ended up being the thing that fucked it up

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>>72796453