Will Q4 really be the end of NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>several livers haven't streamed in at least a month
>public sentiment at all time low which will adversely impact merch sales, their biggest revenue source
>3d lives were the worst performing in history in terms of CCV and superchat income
>SEREN SHOKKU will kick in
>Half of Q4 has already passed by the time of the Q3 report
Will this be the final straw that broke Riku's back, causing him to do to EN what he did to the previous side branches? Or can he turn things around and regain his fans' trust in half a quarter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
The Singapore concert will save NijiEN, China and the Philippines will save NijiEN, trust the plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Who knew pseudo-indie vtuber tactic while taking most of the cut was such a bad idea long term wise
>Riku didn't buy a yacht, he still got millions of dollars in the end with little to no effort. He's still a winner of the game he made and nijisanji failure would have meant vtubing was just a gimmick if it weren't for hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
>public sentiment at all time low which will adversely impact merch sales
90% of the merch sales are asian women. That merch was pushed hard at Nijifes for example where not a single EN fan attended. That is the fundamental lie behind the EN branch, it's always been asian women propping up the merch sales.

Anycolor doesn't even have the infrastructure to deliver merch to the west. Western fans report 2 month long delivery times and merch damaged in transit or simply lost. Their entire merch selling operation is set up for Asia

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473296
Hey Ennaschizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
>China and the Philippines
Grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Riku will make off with money regardless, its the people who work at AnyColor and especially in the EN branch that can expect layoffs and terminations/graduations. Surely they can make some money still, but well below previous rates, and not in line with their projections for growth on the EN side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Doubt it will be the end of EN. But unless they pull some crazy magic trick out of their ass, it will just cripple them even further.

[Anonymous No.]

Victoria should take the lead and save EN, start a new beginning, with females only

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473685
Unless they get rid of the clique it will never work

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473613
it'd be insane if they don't cut the losses, but then again it was insane to make an announcement video after the selen termination and not apologize in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
his dad is a multi-billionaire, niji will never fall.

[Anonymous No.]

he can just merge the talents with the main branch. nobody is going to get fired or forced into a graduation if they dont break the rules or declined a new contract renewal. en can still recover if the branch can find a new talent that can draw good numbers and sell merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473852
Who said anything about Niji as a whole? And even if Niji as a whole does fail, after five failed companies, his daddy's patience has to run out eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473685
Not possible. Management is hell bent on making the clique the new face of NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473964
>if the branch can find a new talent that can draw good numbers and sell merch
for the EN branch "good numbers" is 1k viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473852
Riku would just leave in a golden parachute. If you think his family would take a stupid gamble you are wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474078
And Elira is doing strongly on that front!
Oh, wait....

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474078
That seems to be what they were planning pushing Pomu and Selen out of the way. They were going to go all-in on Enna/Millie/Elira.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474319
Absolutely, it made no sense from a business perspective, to not push your top sellers up front. A good example is Gura for Cover, they shill her hard, because she sells, and it works great for them. Why the fuck would Nijisanji not be promoting their high earners better? The clique wanting to play parasite and hog up the space, is the occam's razor for that one. Nepotism is common. Hence why you do not let the lunatics run the asylum when there is money involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474626
Sure anon. But the thing is those girls are "top sellers" in ASIA not in the western market. If their plan was to grow in the western market they are self-defeating by doing this.
Millie's fans are all Filipino, Enna's fans are all chinese, a good number of Elira's fans are Japanese.
They lost the western market the moment they lost Pomu/Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474932
They even lost the urban market when Kyo left kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474626
Never in any timeline the clique were top sellers. They became the default optoo
when the big hitters like Pomu and Selen left, and even then, Elira was getting more merch than them when she sold even less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474626
An entertainment company pushing a top seller is one thing. That company treating the push as part of a zero sum game and actively sabotaging other talents as part of that push is an entirely different matter, especially when that sabotage angers the very fans whose wallets the company is aiming for. Cover may push Gura, but they don't hamstring other talents in the process.

Giving Elira and Enna and Millie a push because their merch is the top selling merch among female EN talents is fine. But whoever decided that they needed to nuke Selen's MV (among many, MANY other things) as part of that push needs to get fired, whether it was a talent or a manager or another employee who made that decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474059
>his daddy's patience has to run out eventually
You're thinking like us commoner. Spoiled rich fucks don't give a damn whether you failed 10 times or 100 times as long as they still have money. Which is why you see a lot of them turn into motivators cause they think everyone has the money to try and fail 100 times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72477074
Yeah, but there's also the honor culture we have to take to account. Riku collapsing five companies can not be a good look on his daddy. In the West, you'd be right, however.
But we still have to look at individual cases. Who knows if his daddy actually gives a fuck about appearing honorabru in front of his own billionaire friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72474319
This must be what sisters mean when they constantly gloat "Nijisanji won."

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473296
>That merch was pushed hard at Nijifes for example where not a single EN fan attended.
Imagine demanding having an address in Japan in order to attend their con, why do they hate their international fans so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
>several livers haven't streamed in at least a month
Why though

[Anonymous No.]

How can Riku tell them Q4 will be the best, when it's been a huge drop in the past? What is different?
After Q4 falling way below expectations, there will be less backlash for cutting the EN branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72481390
To let the drama die and/or preparation for absorption into JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72482072
It won't be a drop. This time it'll be a sheer cliff.
Everything went completely south.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72482310
They have a little less than 5 weeks left in Q4. Their objective is to reach the internal earnings projections which were set months ago. After having had a catastrophic February and an anemic March, they need to have Holofes-level sales for their Singapore Live2D karaoke, and cannot have any yabs between now and then.

The fate of the EN branch depends entirely on the livers' ability to achieve a level success never before seen in the vtuber industry - a level of success which is generally unachievable without cheat codes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473964
>nobody is going to get fired or forced into a graduation
They'll just get ID negligence treatment until they leave by their own choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72484489
>They gonna have to wait in line though it's unfair for those who wanted to quit first

[Anonymous No.]

sisters is it over?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhhG9P5HKrE

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.nijisanji.jp/events/en_3rd_anniversary/
Blown the fuck out you stupid drama faggots.
Get fucked.
Cant wait to see the cope you faggots come up with now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
Aiiiieeeee holobros don't look

[Anonymous No.]

>>72484056
They just released restrictions on purchases so that people can buy more than 1 ticket, and are now giving away free gifts with the purchase. They're clearly not selling.
This "concert" is not the out they need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
>Will Q4 really be the end of NijiEN?
No, but unless they do some number magic it's going to be rough on their stock price. Whether or not that really matters is a different question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72485433
>Also if they start a stream or send a scheduled tweet without first opting out of the 2 year contract extension they had just been sent two minutes prior to the stream or tweet, it means they've fully accepted the new contract
>Also if they start a zatsu stream on △ day, □ month in which they talk about their future plans with the company including the next week's schedule, but two minutes before that stream started they got an amended contract which expires on △ day, □ month at 2359 their home time zone, then starting that stream counts as accepting the new contract and that zatsu is now their graduation stream even if they don't find out until after the fact
>Also management won't let them play Apex any more, even on their own non-streaming time, solely because EA gave Doki a sponsorship

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Riku and the rest of the nijigarchy will take the money and run

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
>company reputation in shambles
>quick bring back the AR live!
And nijidrones eat it up of course. I'm looking forward to embarrassingly low CCV though

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487094
Hoping for a slow bits by pieces crumbling as a company as their facade drops, and the audience get tired and leave. Instantly crashing while people still have attachment would make those sisters, livers mad and jealous at hololive
>but when have they ever relented?
Welp might as well look at them seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
Holy shit
They're actually going to give them the bare minimum?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487390
>>72487613
And so the cope begins.

[Anonymous No.]

we back

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
They didn't even try to hide the Pomu- and Selen-shaped holes in the poster for the AR Live.
And it's not for lack of ability, they hid the Nina- and Mysta-shaped holes fairly well. They just didn't feel like doing a better job.

Almost as if they're glad that Pomu and Selen will not be there. Almost as if they're boasting that they delayed the concert specifically so that the two of them in particular could not perform on stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>nijiEN does nothing
vt cries
>nijiEN does anything
vt cries

how sad is your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487671
Yeah, nijiniggers thinking this will revive the branch is cope I agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
Is there supposed to be something impressive there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487979
lmaoo ikr... they were crying 4 hours ago because niji streamers barely stream or there are some livers havent streamed in months
now there's something, they're crying "cOpE tHiS wOnT bE aNyThiN9!!"

mental illness i tell you

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
>EN
>china and Philippines saving EN
Grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487979
>a mongolian basketry forum pokes fun at her oshi named ANYCOLOR Inc. (5032.T)
>"I'm not crying, /vt/ is crying!"
hunny, log off and fix your mascara

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487782
lookin real grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>72488305
yeah like i get it you don't like the branch but to actively post about it like some rabid dog is crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
everyday is the end of nijiEN if you believe what gets posted here

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
Pagpag tasting stream when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
oh no no no lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
ehh it will get cancelled again just like year lmaooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487782
Not 3D in 2024 as the 2nd leading EN company. You are a failure. Pomu & Selen were right management is hopeless they are fucking years behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
>>72487782
>We're so back
>Lost 4 of their performers ever since their first announcement
Starting to wonder who's in the copium phase here

[Anonymous No.]

>>72489754
I would actually watch this. It'd be even funnier if Vox didn't know what pagpag was and agreed to eat it, only to get loudly disgusted by even the idea of pagpag live on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487782
AR live?

[Anonymous No.]

How is Anycolor stock currently doing, by the way? Is it actually recovering, or just crabbing until the next report comes out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72492431
Crabbing. The new equilibrium seems to be a little under 2600.

Incidentally, in order to recover half of the value lost in the morning after the Q3 report, the stock would need to close at 2795.

[Heaven No.]

>>72493012
reminder there's still a sales ban on the stock in effect. The stock can and will drop further once that is lifted

[Anonymous No.]

>>72493197
When does that ban get lifted? Does anyone /here/ know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72493197
And how long does it last? Until their next earning reports?

[Heaven No.]

>>72493587
>>72493589
I don't know, and I'm not sure if anyone outside anycolor really does. From where I'm looking, it seems like prime ostrich head in the sand behavior (though to be fair I don't really have the business/stock qualifications to say so)

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487671
You better make that AR live and the Singapore concert successful, sister, you don't want your poor livers to be out of a job, do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
Honestly, good for NijiEN fans, they really needed something after a horrific February, something that was even worse than last years (with the Zaion stealth suspension, the Secret GC stream, the lack of Valentines Day streams, and the original cancellation of AR Colors). But it's still frustrating that it took Anycolor this long just to get their shit together, that it took Pomu + Selen leaving and one horrific financial to commit to and improve the branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473685
Pomu and Selen are gone, Victoria has no star power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72482072
the scariest part is that this is before the whole Selen thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72491233
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>72494835
...Do you really think they'll improve?
Once this quarter is over, if they survive they're shuttering the branch entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72494835
They really.really don't want to give up the money they already have to reinvest since riku has seen it as just a short trend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72488690
But enough about sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Is this thread Holofags' attempt to cope after their EN-only concert is cancelled in 2024?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
3D concert next month. nijiEN is doing fnie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
The concert? No, they are tossing money at it to sell more tickets, thet are in damage control already.
China? Maybe, but grim as fuck, if their entire plan is knowtow for the rest of their life, might as well attempt, there is a reason both Niji and Holo pulled out of china in the past.
Fact is Riku has yet to show a plan for April and trust me, absolutely no one is happy about it. The most posted question by the share bros is “Is the sell ban over, can I dump it?”.
The situation is so bad NijiJP will need saving if it goes on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72485828
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
>Philippines
an actual GARBAGE eater kek RIP

[Anonymous No.]

Graduation announcement when? They can't hold them up forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486979
>"but but hololive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487782
>to garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
Holo sisters... I thought EN was owari da, what is this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486979
They're not looking. That's what makes it so funny.
Nijisanji EN isn't even a rival anymore. It's below Phase Connect now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72488305
>sister seething
yas sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472856
The grimmest truth is that he’s still around because there is more to pocket before leaving. His parachute is well ready.
>>72473296
And still utterly flopped. At least I hope those west fans start to wake the fuck up and smell the fire from the engine overaccelerating into nothingness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487979
>>nijiEN does nothing
>vt cries
>>nijiEN does anything
>vt cries
>literally everyone even outside of vt laughing at niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>72487979
Cries? We're laughing our ass off now. We cried when a woman nearly died and got harassed live on stream, you psychopath.
Now it's just fucking funny to watch them self destruct due to their own actions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503079
>Nijisanji EN isn't even a rival anymore. It's below Phase Connect now
holy GRIM,they are even below phase now? damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>72486789
Pfff…they are streaming it exclusively on Bilibili. What an absolute joke, EN indeed, good luck with those numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503252
Phase has a bunch of consistent 4views+Pippa.
Maria just had a fucking costume reveal + Announcement stream at 3 finanas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503352
>Maria
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503419
The aussie girl with the eyepatch and like 21 fucking cover songs. Including one with Zaion who she stalin'd out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
>Philippines
this stupid country cant even save itself from the bugmen bc it doesnt have money to buy even one properly functioning war ship, how do you think it's gonna help riku

captcha: KYS4N

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
ARLIVE WILL SAVE ANIKARA!! I BELIB

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Reminder they completely tarnished someone's name over a fucking DEEZ NUTS joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
It's clear they're expending little effort to shit out loose ends (like the AR Live) before they fold the branch into JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>72482072
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Riku say that like 40% of Nijifes sales will be recorded in Q4? Mayb they are banking on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503550
>who she stalin'd out of it
She confirmed management did that and was not happy about it
At first they removed only Zaion's name and left Maria's in, but she went in after them and removed her own name

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
What did Gura do this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72505645
Damn, she sounds like a good person too. I hope she gets out unharmed because she seems like a hard worker who shouldn't go down with the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503214
What an obvious tourist fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72505666
Her latest collab earned 2 million dollars. I guess that's where she was all this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72505714
No, just an old dragoon happy that she's finally, finally free. I've been wanting her out of there since early 2022.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72501531
Wait im ootl. You mean connect the world 2??

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561

[Anonymous No.]

>>72505645
Well we know who is gonna get bullied out of the company next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72501531
Uh…sis, are you having mental problems, Holofes just happened, is your new disease selective memory?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72494835
>NijiEN fans
Fucking who? Who is even left? Chinese fujos? They don't deserve shit. They don't deserve human rights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Someone will bail out this company. Maybe if another yab nuke drops. Wouldn't happen anytime soon cuz they're lying low for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
They are pretty fucked if projections hold, and investors get wind of how bad their standing is with EN audiences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72513326
They'd have to really clean house, like nuke all staff and some livers... a risky gamble

[Anonymous No.]

>>72510215
>EN-only concert
>Holofes
Wut? Likely meant CtW2 there

[Anonymous No.]

>>72490963
My friend got tricked into eating pagpag and almost strangled the guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>72508260
There’s no loop for you to be out of, CTW2 wasn’t announced at Holofes, so it’s either not announced because it’s not happening this year and they weren’t planning on doing it this year, or they haven’t announced it yet because it’s happening later in the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72473852
>his dad is a multi-billionaire, niji will never fall.
Is that so? If that's true that speaks a lot on why he's an ugly worthless dog. I can't wait for the tables to be turned around on him for helping destroy so many people's dreams some who are his own people no less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472731
Has NijiEN completely forfeited on having a Western audience? Will NA be entirely dominated by Hololive (followed by Phase, Idol, etc.)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72515465
Seems like it, at least until they can find a foothold on the EN market again

[Anonymous No.]

>>72515465
Pretty much. They already shafted a good portion of the EN audience they built up with Lazusydia during Luxiem. The only difference is that a bulk of those sisters left, so now they're awkwardly trying to win back EN fans before they shift towards appealing to China/SEA/Japan forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72515286
Advent haven't even gotten 3d yet so there's not much point in CtW2 until they do. If I had to guess advent 3d showcases will happen in a few months followed by the announcement for CtW2

[Anonymous No.]

>>72517027
I’d assume Advent gets it in July or early August, considering Regloss is aiming for 3D in August. Either way, the previous anon’s assertion that CTW2 was cancelled is patently false because it was never announced in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72515465
NijiEN has always been dependant on Asians to begin with, so NA has been monopolized by hololive for a while now when it comes to YT based ENcorpos

[Anonymous No.]

nothing ends

[Anonymous No.]

>>72503079
>It's below Phase Connect now.
I doubt that. That seems more like something phasefags are desperately wishing for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72472561
Good

[Anonymous No.]

Nothing can save them anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72516610
Win them back how? A thing that everyone paid tickets for and had to refund, only more cut and dry to 2 days to 1?
Good luck, there aren't enough consumerfaggots left, and they are yabbing already. If not them the Nijisis will keep fueling the drama and making sure to keep the memes up in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72522688
I don't wanna dig through my numberfag folder, but it's sad, but true. Phase now has a bunch of 4views, and many of Niji is just mid to high 3views now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72477369
honor culture is bullshit. Its just rebranded face culture. rich japs are on average as degenerate as the worse from the west. His (sugar) daddy doesn't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mr Riku, how will you salvage Nijisanji EN?