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Cheesed to meat you Edition. New waspies welcome.

>What is /wasp/?
/wasp/ is a thread for Female Vtubers to give and receive advice related to Vtubing

>Why /wasp/?
Men and women target different demographics and this thread is geared towards gender specific strategies to increase their numbers, and gain an audience.

>Can I self post and promote?
Sure, although we recommend you eventually leave this thread and this site. You will have your own community to care for soon.

>I'm not really new to streaming/ vtubing, it's ok if I post here?
This is the advice thread ma'am, just ask. We also help with redebuts and rebranding.

>I'm just a lowly viewer but I want to help my oshi grow. Can I ask here?
Go ahead, but remember to ask for her consent for sketchy stuff ( like 4chan ads)

>"I am X vtuber and I have to say Z girl is an schizo/bitch/liar! Read my Tweetlong..."
Since it's technically off-topic, we would ask you kindly to take that to back to /asp/, if you must talk about it at all. It will be better for viewers if feuds between vtubers are never made public, nor /here/ nor in twitter. Hold a facade for the sake of the children, your fans deserve better. No one likes it when the mommies fight.

>Some resources
https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK

>Scared of being groomed? check this guide to recognize tactics.
https://twitter.com/firozera/status/1745548628591325449

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/wasp-vtubers-16934564

>Threads of interest:
>>>/vt/wvt/ - OG EN indie thread
>>>/vt//lig/- Large Indies Thread
>>>/vt//aus/ - Aussie
>>>/vt//fig/ - Fighting gamer chuubas
>>>/vt//asmr/ - ASMR chuuba discussions
>>>/vt/euro/ - European vtuber thread
>>>/vt//hag/ - Chuubas of 30 years old and up
>>>/vt/jong/ - beloved offspring for mahjong players

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>> No.72375170

First for HAGS
Hag sex is superior.

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>>72375031
No FAQ because I'm not personally a fan of it. Gomen.

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My suggestion on how to use /wasp/

>> No.72375707

My oshi is Tanyuu Kiing

>> No.72375796

>>72375707
Good taste.

>> No.72375818

love all the waspies they are so cute and i want to see them all succeed!!!

>> No.72375972

>>72375818
We love you too!

>> No.72376188

>>72375031
>Another schizo thread

>> No.72376350

is the euro thread dead? haven't seen it in a while

>> No.72376379

>>72376350
Yes we don’t need it anymore

>> No.72376467

>>72375031
>Non-/wasp/ie image
>no faq
>no video
>early bake
why does this /asp/ faggot not leave /wasp/ alone?

>> No.72376470

>>72376379
I need euro chuubas

>> No.72376512

>>72376467
Miu is waspie

>> No.72376539

>>72376512
Miu isn't waspie
Mond isn't waspie
Gura isn't waspie
LUMI ISN'T FUCKING WASPIE
PUT A FUCKING WASPIE IN THE OP YOU TROLLING SCHIZO FAGGOT

>> No.72376541

>>72376188
>>72376467
Morning Lumi/Mel schizos, you need to wake up earlier now if you want to make Lumi the OP again.

>> No.72376560

>Schizo is mad we actually outbaked him this time.

>> No.72376566

>>72376541
>everyone I don’t like is MEL!
Troll confirmed
Why are you not banned yet?

>> No.72376567

>>72376539
miu kyun started in these threads, you retard. She is a waspie.

>> No.72376605

>>72376567
No she posted outside of it first she isn't a real waspie.

>> No.72376619

You really don't have anything else to do than spamming this thread? What a sad life.

>> No.72376623

>>72376605
kill yourself schizo

>> No.72376652

>>72376619
He gets mad and accuses people of being Mel whenever people point out he is trying to destroy the thread.

>> No.72376680

>>72376652
>>72376619
thread started so nicely then you can spot when the seething faggot dropped in.

>> No.72376681

>>72376350
Ufortunately it was very hard to keep it bumped. But feel free to make another one.

>> No.72376730

>>72376680
Pretty sure this is around when he either wakes up are done with his wagie cagie, it always starts around this time.

>> No.72376749

>>72376680
>bake bad thread on purpose when thread is slow to sneak it in
WHERE IS THE FAQ YOU FAGGOT

>> No.72376797

>>72376749
He is trying to destroy the op piece by piece

>> No.72376810

>>72376749
>>72376797
stop samefagging

>> No.72376848

>>72376810
>implying
Quit trying to destroy /wasp/ fag

>> No.72376852

>>72376810
Schizo thinks everyone but the voices in his own head is the same person

>> No.72376887

You are a horrible and sad person schizo no doubt about that. I will make sure the OP is made before you wake up from now on.

>> No.72376922

>>72376887
You forgot to accuse me of being Mel. You’re getting sloppy.

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>> No.72376934

With all that said, hope you have a good day bumping the thread, I'll be leaving now.

>> No.72376969

>>72376934
No you won't schizo we all know you'll be here all day spamming about males and mels.

>> No.72376978

Blue debuts in 2 days! :D

>> No.72377012

>>72376978
UOOOOH I LOVE KANIIIII

>> No.72377103

>>72376978
>>72377012
I know you are self posting pretending to be someone else so remember to only communicate with girls.

>> No.72377110

>>72377103
>>72376934
>I'll be leaving now
lol

>> No.72377120

>>72376470
Reposting euro waspies from last thread
Mond - 4 am CET https://www.twitch.tv/MondVampir
Layla - 9 pm CET https://www.twitch.tv/leolaylavtuber
QB - 8 pm CET https://www.twitch.tv/khubie
Bonni - 6 pm CET https://www.twitch.tv/bonnipaws

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>>72376350
>>72376470
>>72376681

the bumping wasnt the issue, the problem was that I was the original baker left and he was the one who edited the google doc in the op.
The real usefulness of the thread was the database and there was no point going on without someone willing to fill that role.
I was hoping someone would step in so I kept baking it until we did the full cycle and we did every country, so now in a sense the database exists in the archives so the project was technically taken to its competition.

The other problem it had was that as a burger I would bake too late for them so I couldnt be the first baker in the first place.
If someone autistic enough wants to start over and make another google doc there is interest in an euro thread, just there no one willing to do the hard work part.

>> No.72377176

>>72377120
Only one of those is a real waspie and you posted her past

>> No.72377235

>>72377167
>/euro/ thread is getting made by burgers
sad fucking day for euros

>> No.72377237

>>72377167
I don’t think it is worth the effort

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>>72377103
>captcha: FGGT

>> No.72377306

>>72377167
/euro/ was only made as a way to keep /wasp/ bumped and we don’t need that because we have schizos now

>> No.72377445

>>72377306
The euro thread wasn't the one who bumped wasp

>> No.72377480

>>72377012
Blue crab cute, all other crabs must die immediately

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>>72377306
>>72377445

Common confusion.
/euro/ wasnt made by anyone associated with waspies, people just mingled together because both threads were born around at the same time.

Jong on the other hand as made to keep mahjong discussion out of both fig and wasp since the figposters that came here kept talking about it here and there.

>>72377237
Euro fans are the most miserable vtubers fans of them all and i genuinely fell sorry for them.
Imagine having to wake up at 2 am to catch your oshi, and having dead hours while you are awake. It isn't strange they wanted a database of their own timezone.
>>72377235
making a thread is like making a jong room: everyone wants it but no one wants to do it themselves

>> No.72377704

>>72377515
If people want it people will make it. The fact it does with you shows that it wasn’t really important.

>> No.72377727

>>72377480
>all other crabs must die immediately
Riabros…

>> No.72377745

Finally a cute op!

>> No.72377832

>>72375146
>>72375170
Reminder for potential wasps
You DO NOT need to be over 30 irl to be a hag vtuber. You don’t need to be 9 to be a loli vtuber. If you say you are and act the part people will believe and love you.

>> No.72377833

>>72377704
>If people want it people will make it.
hmm.. in my experience people will only do things around this site if they require zero effort.
They can want it pretty badly but they want someone else to do it.
There is a term for that, even
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Schizos for example usually give up when they need to imput some effort into the conversation and thats how you can tell when someone is geniune about what they say

>> No.72377858

>>72377832
What if I want to be both?

>> No.72377874

>>72377833
By that logic people talking about males and Mels and Lumi aren’t schizos. I don’t buy it.

>> No.72377905

>>72377858
That is perfectly okay. Just use a loli model but a hag voice with the hag tag and claim to be over 30. Guys will love it.

>> No.72377908

>>72377832
>You DO NOT need to be over 30 irl to be a hag vtuber.
The appeal of hags is that they lived for longer so they have more interesting stories to tell, and tend to be more interesting people to talk
Anyone can pretend to be a loli but faking a hag is nearly impossible.
Kuku got away with it because he was a man and her interested on male related topics was disguised as someone having a breath experience

>> No.72377951

>>72377874
repeating the same thing over and over isnt effort
you can tell schizos for example by the fact they drop short lines which barely address what being said

>> No.72378027

>>72376539
pcg will never be /wasp/ related
Go away already

>> No.72378038

>>72377908
I'm almost a hag irl and I don't feel interesting

>> No.72378112

>>72378038
You just need a few more years to ripen and sour to become a true hag.

>> No.72378128

>>72377908
>The appeal of hags is that they lived for longer so they have more interesting stories to tell, and tend to be more interesting people to talk
You say that but most hagfags just talk about wanting to fuck them, save them etc.
Thinking that being a hag can’t be faked is a good thing because it makes it easier to fake because people are more self assured and less on guard, especially since in theory being a “hag” is considered a bad thing in normal day to day life.
Anyone that is a cake can easily fake being a hag, some already do. Beyond that you will need excuses for being naive and sheltered, but that can work too: being an older lady that doesn’t know much about those vidya games and is learning with her viewers fits a hag stereotype too.
Hagfags don’t like hearing this but this is a thread for the girls not the viewers.

>> No.72378142

>>72378038
Cute girls are always interesting.

>> No.72378179

>>72378038
Just claim to be a hag anyway. Hagfags like women with low self-esteem just as they like ones that are mature and self assured. They will in their mind make stories for how both are a sign of a true hag despite being opposite traits.

>> No.72378189

>>72378142
How do I become cute?

>> No.72378210

>>72378189
Sloppy older sister blowjob asmr

>> No.72378231

>>72378189
Just stream, just exist. Chat will make that cuteness come out

>> No.72378269

>>72378210
>tfw too old for this to be possible with an almost hag or fresh hag
I should never have started watching vtubers and its too addicting to get out of now

>> No.72378270

>>72378189
All waspies are cute! CUTE!
I have yet to encounter a waspie that isn't cute.

>> No.72378305

>>72378270
This is why people say that all vtubing is gfe.

>> No.72378320

>>72378270
I love your posts, thank you for making them.

>> No.72378327

>>72378305
I don't get parasocial for everyone even if they are cute and enjoyable streamers

>> No.72378336

>>72378210
>Sloppy older sister blowjob asmr
See? It is what the people want
>>72378269

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>>72378038
Well in your life you probably have seen one thousand movies, playing one hundred games, watched a bunch of anime, and had at least three different jobs

Compare yourself with someone in their early 20s whose favorite movie is one of the Harry Potter or something pixar and their favorite anime is Freiren.
These "life experiences" are conversation points which you can go back at any given moment and which your younger counterparts lack.
Sure, someone who is an autist neet in their 20s would have watched my have watched more media than you but they also lack outside world experience.
Basically these are tools in your arsenal. My advice would be, before you start streaming, sit back and think of a happy or funny memory, and start your monologue with that, that will probably make your talk more interesting

>> No.72378369

>>72378327
If you care about them personally, want them to succeed and want to reassure and help them then you are already being parasocial.

>> No.72378439

>>72378340
That's actually great advice! Thank you, will try to do that.

>> No.72378448

>>72378369
I do want that all the cuties succeed and have a nice life but i would be lying if i said i care about everyone personally. That is reserved for those i actively watch

>> No.72378503

>>72378340
You say that but there are plenty that are 30+ that are Disney or harrypotter girls. Or both, I know a few. If you are like that as a “hag” people will just excuse it as youthful immaturity, low iq and gap moe, especially if you act like you are easily influenced and open to their suggestions (grooming)
Even zoomers are becoming cakes now, people lose track of time.

>> No.72378509

Maybe im just getting old but hags don't even look old. So many times i have met cute girls that claim to be in their 30s but look like they are at least 10 years younger

>> No.72378526

What if I used lolibaba as a tag? How bad is putting that on a Twitter bio too?

>> No.72378540

>>72378503
Surely they have lived a bit at that point? Even the younger ones tend to have lots of crazy stories to tell so i expect no less of someone older

>> No.72378562

>>72378526
Twitch probably fine but not sure how twitter is with lolis these days

>> No.72378591

>>72378526
I wouldn't put it in twitter bio, but twitch is fine. People will find out about it one way, or another. Best is a loli, but looking like they've been old for a long time.

>> No.72378597

>>72378439
The alternate advice can be useful once you have an audience of parasocial guys wanting to fuck you: think of some event (real or not) from your “youth” that is sad or cringe. Act a little down in the dumps and then explain that you were remembering it and feel like you wasted your youth OR were so stupid and cringe as a kid.
Headpat spam will follow and after they reassure you thank them and talk about how happy you are that they are there for you and how glad you are that you became a vtuber.

>> No.72378631

>>72378189
Don’t have any contact with boys. That is the most important thing.

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You can do it waspies I belive in you.
Your Life is Your life - Charles Bukowski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbpM65HJsP0

>> No.72378728

Just be on guard hagposters. Mel is almost a hag now and was claiming to be one with goldensun. She knows it is just another thing she can do to get pity.

>> No.72378767

>>72378728
rope

>> No.72378844

post art of your fave wasp chuubas

>> No.72378847

>>72378767
It is serious advice. People even said she wasn’t Mel because Mel isn’t a hag.

>> No.72378953

>>72378562
You’ll get banned

>> No.72379302

Pretending to be a hag is a good way to whore yourself. Women over 30 have much less appeal generally but you can use that to act nervous but pleased as your simps cheer you on. Like marine said about the age of 30 being in demand, you should pretend that it is a surprise.
Depending on how naive you want to act you might not even want to use the hag tag at the beginning, just allude to your age vaguely as being over 30 and people will start spamming about hags and happily “explain” it to you. They will love the ideal of making you feel more assured about your “age”

>> No.72379390

>men are easy, just lie to them

>> No.72379414

>>72379390
this unironically

>> No.72379584

>>72379414
Men think they are smart because they are dumb.

>> No.72379716

>>72379302
I don't really get this age thing. As long as they are cute i enjoy and if they are nice to me specifically i may give them some money too

>> No.72379781

Brown vtuber models can be useful to get certain fans for that too but if you aren’t brown it is s bad idea because it will limit you from doing handcam or other flesh posting streams/images and those are great for drawing your gfe simp whales further in once you have them hooked.

>> No.72379852

Men are easy just dominate- and abuse them for their own good. Pretty please...?

>> No.72379906

>>72379716
It is fetishized and associated with other traits by sad perverts.

>> No.72379915

>>72379852
I wish it didn't but yeah that works because girl autism wont make them as socially awkward as men so they can always carry even if im super awkward and not great at talking

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>>72379781
brown models are a debuff
if you arent brown yourself dont do it
this is not only because of racism(?) but because brown tones have a hard time looking good on anime style and not every L2d artist can do it well

Sana drawings were pure sex but her model felt short

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https://www.twitch.tv/miukyun
Miu Kyun with the morning stream.

>> No.72380116

>>72379951
>brown models are a debuff
A debuff if you are already made it in a corpo with guaranteed 4views. But if you are just starting out it is a buff because then you can post in /choc/ and get a few viewers interested right away.
The difference between 5000 and 2000 viewers is small. The difference between 30 and 10 is huge.
You still should be cautious doing it if you aren’t brown unless you just treat it as a tan, because it will limit further handcam scamming in the future.

>> No.72380193

>>72376566
We know who Mel is, you retards just love giving scammers money then cry when she runs away saying she scammed you.

>> No.72380228

>>72380193
They even get upset when we protect them from scammers by calling Mel out. She is proven to be posting in /wasp/ yet people still fall for her repeatedly.

>> No.72380230

>>72380020
She is so adorable

>> No.72380517

Are all those follows really coming from this thread

>> No.72380671

>>72380517
most influential thread

>> No.72380823

how do i make my character look like a signalis replika without looking like i'm stealing their designs

>> No.72380863

it's so weird to see people actually like and appreciate hags. I hid my age to the Twitter world, because I assumed people only liked vtubers that were 18-22. the whole 'older women = more experience = better stories' makes sense though because I feel like I can definitely just yap about so much. I just don't wanna end up over sharing my life since I've done a lot... but thanks haglovers for making me feel appreciated.

>> No.72380910

>>72380517
No there was a big raid yesterday but those fans were from a chuuba with heavy male presence so hopefully it won’t influence things.

>> No.72380947

>>72380863
Yeah that is the ticket. Make viewers believe you feel that way and they’ll simp.

>> No.72380970

>>72380863
I feel secure in loving hags.

>> No.72381197

>>72380910
>Hopefully we can keep potential waspies at low numbers so they don't succeed
Funny how the "male influence" propped her up yesterday.

>> No.72381470

>>72381197
>smoke cigarettes it helps you lose weight
True? Yes. But you still shouldn’t be sucking in fags for many obvious reasons.

>> No.72381664

>>72381470
Avoid boytuberd
Avoid fans of boytubers

>> No.72381987

>>72380910
Surely those would have followed yesterday?

>> No.72382033

>>72380863
Old men like hags because they can't relate to zoomers and want to hear someone gush about stuff they grew up with, simple as. If single 30+ year old women in real life didn't show signs of aging or didn't become neurotic messes who hate men because of multiple failed relationships they'd be more popular compared to the 20-year-olds offline as well.

>> No.72382149

>>72382033
The aged looking ones are closer to 50

>> No.72382358

>>72382033
I like my women like I like my wine, finely taken care of and aged.

>> No.72382524

>>72382149
Not true.

>> No.72382593

Hags are less likely to be pure which makes it tougher to get whales

>> No.72382669

>>72382524
Depends. The small and cute ones can stay that way very long

>> No.72382715

>>72382593
I just want a community like Geega, but I'm not white so I don't have white NL humour.

>> No.72382914

>>72382593
If you want something pure unironically go for a 1 view male. Nothing purer out there

>> No.72383657

>>72382715
>a community like Geega
Bland and boring turbo normies?

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I hate these weirdos

>> No.72383993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKevU3Mtj0g
the lesson here is never stream valorant

>> No.72384141

>>72383950
Clear chad Rizz

>> No.72384335

>>72383795
I'd say I'm a bit higher up, I just have good intentions and I don't abuse my power.

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>>72384141
Will you lock that answer?

>> No.72385249

>>72384335
Bullshit

>> No.72385313

>>72382669
>they’re cute if they’re cute
Retard

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VAllure auditions close in 5 days.
https://www.vallure-agency.com/auditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hAuJGicloA

>> No.72385525

I like my women like I like my wine
cheap and white

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>>72375031
This OP is... passable. Not great, just OK. It could have been perfect, but I have to remember to temper my expectations with you lot since you're still nothing but a bunch of startup companies and aspiring women.

>> No.72385786

>>72384335
hi rinna

>> No.72386041

rinna is a male?

>> No.72386112

>>72386041
Worse, a tranny enabler.

>> No.72386156

>>72386112
the voice has me very confused but maybe this is just the hag experience

>> No.72386504

>>72385571
Waspie veibae love

>> No.72386526

>>72376605
Now that is an straight out lie, her first post was literally on /asp/ asking on advice on how to stream rhythm games

>> No.72386629

>>72386526
>her first post was literally on /asp/
Exactly. Not /wasp/.

>> No.72386666

>>72386629
It's the same thing, literally all /wasp/ies post on /asp/ too

>> No.72386703

>>72386629
nta but wasp needs to claim people who didn't start out here to look good

>> No.72386777

>>72386629
I have a secret to tell you: WASP WAS CREATED AND BUMPED BY ASP GIRLS. Aspie girls were the first waspies and the mothers of this thread. Nothing would exist without them.

>> No.72386780

>>72386703
Even pittie asked for help on her design on asp lmao

>> No.72386915

>>72386703
this thread literally began 2 months ago

>> No.72386938

>>72386777
Okay this is the best fanfiction that has come from here yet, half the /asp/ girls that posted here got crabbed instantly because they had a male friend who was hated.
This thread was created as a joke and bumped mostly by the schizos from asp and an anyafag

>> No.72387017

>>72386666
I don’t believe that. How would you even know unless you were an aspfag too?

>> No.72387094

>>72386938
No one should have male friends. It is a mistake and if people don’t let the girls know they will keep making it.

>> No.72387099

>>72387017
Because the only way to keep up with grace is to lurk asp too, not my fault that you bunch of degenerates scared her off

>> No.72387152

>>72386938
The asp girls were crabbed by schizos that didn't want the split but the thread is only alive because of them and would not exist without them

>> No.72387166

>>72387099
Kill yourself aspfag

>> No.72387244

>>72387152
It isn’t crabbing to not want a bunch of leeching male collabers from /asp/ in /wasp/ to take attention away from real /wasp/ie girls that need and deserve it. It is the opposite of crabbing.

>> No.72387249

>>72387152
Olga got crabbed the first time she posted because she refused to stop watching and chatting with Camui

>> No.72387259

>>72386938
>Okay this is the best fanfiction
and you, dr retard, fell for the bait, as usual

the only reason the anti male spam exists is because you asp mongoloids keep lurking this thread and falling for this bait
Unicorns have no need to reply to it, they already believe it, so they give them (you)s

You stupid triggerable folk on the other hand cant see an anti male post without crying your tears out. He did it on asp for years and you all fell for it, and he is doing it here now and you are still falling for it

>> No.72387387

>>72387259
>no one in /wasp/ is against girls talking to boys! It is just a troll
Imagine being this bad of a falseflagger, aspfag.

>> No.72387584

Does it still count as GFE if she is in your dms talking about her mental health troubles and occasionally freaking out about something she is not very confident in? Every once in a while i meet a vtuber like this and never really know what to do but usually whatever i go for seems to work

>> No.72387725

>>72387387
oh everyone hates male vtubers, even female vtubers
Only male vtubers reply to male vtuber hate posts tho

>> No.72387750

>>72387584
Daydreaming is not GFE, anon.

>> No.72387943

>>72387750
Not so sure about that. Makes me care about her way too much and i couldn't drop her even if she started doing ridiculously low effort streams

>> No.72387974

>>72387584
Sorry, ill stop dming you...

>> No.72387993

>>72387725
Which is why it is a good thing to do so they self-identify before they can take over the thread.

>> No.72388152

No one here watches streams. They only schizopost and shitpost all day. Why can't you guys actually do something useful?

>> No.72388157

>>72387974
I don't mind it but sometimes i feel a professional would do a better job

>> No.72388208

>>72388152
I just watched my wasp oshi and have donated to multiple wasps.

>> No.72388478

>>72388208
Who is your oshi?

>> No.72388566

>>72388478
Pippa

>> No.72388606

>>72388478
The cutest

>> No.72388677

>>72388152
This isn’t a thread for watching streams it is a thread for how to stream better.
Even when they aren’t vtubers, men seem to think everything is about them.

>> No.72388712

>>72388566
Why didn’t you post pippa’s link then

>> No.72389009

>>72385571
>>72388566
Go back

>> No.72389093

>>72387974
its okay you can DM me instead

>> No.72389232

>>72389009
They’re wasps

>> No.72389966
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72389966

>>72388677
technically right
this isn't a community thread its an advice thread
the community thread is /asp/
In truth there are no "waspies", thats just a made up term since every vtuber here posts in both threads
Streams of local girls are brought up exclusively because we want to help them improve , since they are /here/ and they will listen to feedback. Streams of other girls outside of wasp can be brought up as long as they are doing something interesting worth watching. These were the rules set up from the start, and why sometimes people post Gura or others.
Local schizos still dont get this even if it was told to them several times before. They think they are still in /asp/ and speak of things like "they dont belong" or "this isnt a waspie" as if that made any fucking sense in an advice thread.

>muh tiermaker
Its just asp tiermaker without men for fun purposes. Include Lumi or Gura or Towa if you want to, that will just allow for more jokes.

Why is this? Because /asp/ was ruined by becoming a community thread. It is basically a discord for them to hang out and lust after one another after their own discords and their own male threads exploded. This will not happen here, for girls move on, they always move on. Meanwhile there are people over there calling themselves aspirants when they have been streaming for 10 years, and have been posted in /asp/ for 3 or more. Basically they hijacked the advice thread as their own personal space, which is why /asp/ no longer gives advice, and why reform was needed.

I usually dont bother to explain this but this might help out our new /pcg/ friend to understand the spirit of this thread.

>> No.72390105

>>72389966
Then explain why vtubers who never asked for advice here get constantly talked about

>> No.72390155

>>72388677
Would be pretty hard to find all these vtubers if the viewers didn't come look here

>> No.72390181

>>72389966
>this is an advice thread
DYRBI?

>> No.72390272

Welcome and check out /wasp/!
Check the descriptive tags to easily look for the streamer you want!

>mond
cunny, moe, autism, sleepy, ESL
http://twitch.tv/mondvampir
>rura
gamer, /fig/, autism, variety, ESL
https://www.youtube.com/@rura_taurus
>rinna
cunny, /choc/, voice acting, ASMR, EOP
http://twitch.tv/rinnanoe
>ria
tomboy, autism, art, rants, EOP
http://twitch.tv/riacitrx
>andy
idol, karaoke, variety, hag, EOP
http://twitch.tv/andygraviti
>pafu
lewd, funny, hag, educational, EOP
https://www.youtube.com/@PafuPafuVT
>olga
cozy, art, hag, ESL
https://www.twitch.tv/olgaokami
>pittie
karaoke, variety, sultry voice, EOP
http://twitch.tv/pittiepitohui
>khubie
endurance, autism, hag, /jong/, Brit
http://twitch.tv/khubie
>bonni
retro, hag, comfy, Brit
http://twitch.tv/bonnipaws
>elfin
gamer, autism, variety, drinking, EOP
http://twitch.tv/elfinpsyop
>miu
cunny, moe, /fig/, variety, EOP
http://twitch.tv/miukyun
>neruru (pre-debut)
cunny, kusogaki
http://twitch.tv/nerukanimiya

>> No.72390427

>>72390272
Im retarded. What does EOP mean?

>> No.72390457

>>72390272
A third of those never posted here, also this isn't advise and this isn't a community thread or a viewer thread

>> No.72390512

>>72390427
English Only Pleb
>>72390457
DYRBI

>> No.72390986

>>72390457
Fact but offtopic fags ignore it.

>> No.72391082

>>72389966
Quit posting Lumi this is wasp

>> No.72391091
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72391091

>>72390105
>Streams of other girls outside of wasp can be brought up as long as they are doing something interesting worth watching.
Also, they can be discussed to.
>>72390181
Well, we have to try, but that is the spirit of the thread, to fix /asp/ mistakes. Schizos are free to do as they please but there is a problem when normal people don't understand the cultural concept that made this thread emerge.

In fact, there were THREE attempts early to separate the advice thread from the community thread.
/mvp/ collapsed after they fucked up their once chance they had with /cbdct/ to bring new viewers into them. /sig/ and /bvg/ had a similar fate but that was only because people fairly argued it was the same fucking thing as /wvt/

Now, the only way to reverse course was actually to rebuild /asp/ from scratch and leave the old thread to the community. Thus, the prank thread /faspie/ was hijacked by agents who were lurking in shadows for an opportunity to incorporate the needed reforms. Who were the ones who bumped wasp in the early days? The reformers that created sig and bvg, of course, those who saw the need for advice and community to be separated.

And now you all understand why this thread is so weird. A game of cloak and dagger balancing forces that have been on the move for years now. Even now /asp/ , despite throwing a fit earlier on, now seems to agree the split has been for the best, since their thread has since slowed down and improved considerably since the schizos are busy here. And even better, the split managed to do the one thing mvp and its predecessors failed to do: bring new viewers. Schizos from /pcg/? Sure, but new people even so. And more will come.

>> No.72391170
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72391170

Damn jwu and read Andy's tweet. I am depressed now

>> No.72391185

>>72391082
Lumi is as much of a /wasp/ as rura/mond/khubie since none of them ever posted here

>> No.72391200

>>72389966
Except people still this as a community thread by posting streams and fighting about vtubers they like or hate. It is speedrunning the exact shit you say. Instead of posting for advice it is people talking about how such and such is their wife or so and so doesn't belong. It's all viewers instead of vtubers.

>> No.72391255

>>72391170
what if andy joined that new corpo

>> No.72391535

>>72391200
>how such and such is their wife
these folks will follow their oshi to /lig/ once the time comes, as it happened with /wvt/, that isnt as bad of an issue as having 0view males talk about each other for eternity since none of them will ever move on.

To understand the scope of the project, you need to think not in terms of weeks or months but years.
It has been almost than 2 since /sig/ was attempted and failed. The consequences of what happened 2 months ago will be felt a decade from now, this board still exist.

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72391550

>>72391091
>>72389966
Why are you posting that shit instead of your anyas? It's obviously you fag. It isn't your thread to dictate what is and isn't allowed any more than anyone else.

>> No.72391591

>>72391535
Then have them go to /wvt/ now.

>> No.72391600

>>72391550
whats an anya

>> No.72391604

>>72391255
I doubt it

>> No.72391653

>>72391600
Avatarfag. He should just use a tripcode.

>> No.72391671

>>72389966
>>72391091
This place only exists because it has become a viewer thread like the majority of the generals, when /wasp/ tried to be advice only it kept needing other threads to bump it because there isn't a big need for advice threads, it literally had multiple people bumping with jiggies to keep the thread alive
>>72391091
The only benefit asp ever got was the decrease in schizos shitting up the thread because they got what they wanted which was a this thread

>> No.72391713

>>72391653
whats a tripcode

>> No.72391798

>>72391591
In theory they should like in the old days but rebel and gael live there so its a bit unhabitable. This is why the grace period extends to lig

>> No.72391841

>>72391798
So go do something about that there and don't turn this thread into another /wvt/ clone instead of what it should be.

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72391864

>>72391671
> literally had multiple people bumping with jiggies to keep the thread alive
all me

>> No.72391887

>>72391713
oh my god

>> No.72391937

>>72391798
Both of them are in this thread, you can probably bait Gael into going menhera in this thread

>> No.72391958

>>72391170
She wasn’t a waspie anyway. Now more time can be spent on girls that matter.

>> No.72391969

>>72391958
Kill yourself

>> No.72391979

>>72391937
All the more reason that there is no reason for people to treat this thread like something it isn't.

>> No.72392017

>>72391969
Andy is already dead like so many other aspies. If more followed her lead then we wouldn’t have this problem.

>> No.72392038

>>72391841
>So go do something about that there
its easier to start from scratch, rebel is a powerful entity. Normal schizos eventually get bored but he isnt doing it maliciously he just is. To say /wvt/ is his prison is inaccurate since he can escape it any moment he wants, rather, it's the labyrinth of the minotaur

>> No.72392049

>>72391958
t. Neruru
Debut and stfu

>> No.72392119

>>72392038
Quit typing like a 13 year old retard. This thread is going to hell because of your “dude everything is allowed” faggotry.

>> No.72392164

>>72391091
By your logic people could post and talk about male vtubers and their streams too because there is still something to learn from them like "Don't contact men".

>> No.72392176

>>72391170
corpo?

>> No.72392197

>>72392049
Keeping thinking that. I know you’re already one of my followers.

>> No.72392277

>>72391958
Like who?

>> No.72392329

>>72392277
For example Elfen, Bonni, Neruru? Literally /wasp/ies?

>> No.72392362

>>72392329
You didn't list a single /wasp/ie
So basically you are trying to shit "stop talking about vtubers I dont like" down everyones throats

>> No.72392365

>>72392164
that could indeed happen in /asp/ if it were a real advice thread but
>Men and women target different demographics and this thread is geared towards gender specific strategies to increase their numbers, and gain an audience.

specifically it has been pointed out that the advice given in this is related to gender. In order threads it even recommended vtubers to ask for "technical" advice in /asp/ instead.
Hypothetically there could be many things that can be learned from good male vtubers, but none of them are female specific by definition.

See it was all thought through beforehand.

>> No.72392410

>>72392329
Elfin and Neruru post in /asp/ and Bonnie ... well you know.

>> No.72392520

>>72392410
All of them post there, there is only so much they can get here after all

>> No.72392533

>>72392365
>>Men and women target different demographics and this thread is geared towards gender specific strategies to increase their numbers, and gain an audience.
>specifically it has been pointed out that the advice given in this is related to gender. In order threads it even recommended vtubers to ask for "technical" advice in /asp/ instead.
>Hypothetically there could be many things that can be learned from good male vtubers, but none of them are female specific by definition.
No it would be female specific because they could learn to not do what the males are doing, why that won't work for them. Super educational right?
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!
Then stop spamming non-wasps in /wasp/ you bitch. It doesn't make any more sense than spamming fags, no one wants it.

>> No.72392540

>>72392365
So no one is allowed to give any advice that isn’t female specific? Bullshit.

>> No.72392570

i lose 5 braincells whenever i look at this thread

>> No.72392606

>>72392540
That would mean no posting any streams while they are live only afterward to discuss something relevant or ask about it if it is about advice and only female advice.
Simpler to just realize anyafag is a faggot that wants to let other shit slither in.

>> No.72392637

So why do we suddenly hate Andy now?

>> No.72392654

Here is a girl playing final fantasy five.
JRPGs are said to be a debuff but maybe people can learn that from the stream right
https://www.twitch.tv/miaguwu

>> No.72392718

>>72392533
>No it would be female specific because they could learn to not do what the males are doing, why that won't work for them. Super educational right?
Not really. Stuff that doesnt work for men often work for women. A men might be dropped for crying, a woman might become a 3 view for that, like what happened to Ebi. See?
You cant compare oranges to apples in any way that makes sense.

>> No.72392724

>>72392637
Andy is an /asp/ie instead of a /wasp/ie. One guy would post her treating this like /wvt2/ but she doesn’t belong. Maybe that is why she was posted, to make people hate her.

>> No.72392760

>>72392637
Same reason we hate Elfin, Mond and Khubie. She is too good for this thread.

>> No.72392772

>>72392540
ask me this question in /asp/ and I will give you a serious reply

>> No.72392794

>>72392718
>Not really. Stuff that doesnt work for men often work for women. A men might be dropped for crying, a woman might become a 3 view for that, like what happened to Ebi. See?
You just proved yourself wrong because that right there is already an example of a male stream event that could be used to advice females by pointing out it is different like you just did. You are so fucking stupid with your wanting to push garbage like gura here instead of wasps.

>> No.72392795

>>72392637
Because this thread is full of tourist, this place grew too big too fast and these are the consequences of attracting the catalog spergs

>> No.72392804

>>72392724
No one hates Andy except the seeting faggot(s) that just troll the thread all day.

>> No.72392818

>>72392724
false flagging faggot

>> No.72392865

>>72392804
No one hates Andy because Andy is gone. Why hate a dead woman?
>>72392818
Yes that is what people that spam non-wasps in wasp are.

>> No.72392889

>>72392794
>This male did something and his numbers dropped! Dont do this!
>actually this woman did the same thing and her numbers increased.
>Ohhh ahhh this is why i posted the man, so you could post the woman that refutes what I just said
>why not post the women alone then

>> No.72392934

>>72392889
Because a ready example for the woman alone might not be available or recent. Come on now. I thought you just wanted this to be /wvt/ except even more broad?
Or maybe you're just full of shit and can't make up your mind.

>> No.72392944

>>72392329
Elf is literally Mel Nekomata though..

>> No.72392963

>>72392944
So what if she’s Mel?

>> No.72393030

https://www.twitch.tv/pinkkittyrose 3view girl playing pizza tower watch and learn something

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72393036

>>72392794
>>72392794
>push garbage like gura
you didnt complain when it happened tho, could it be that perhaps you werent here back then?

>> No.72393089

>>72393036
It is the same thing as relying on euro for bumps. We don’t need it but now you have people posting about pippa and lumi all the time

>> No.72393127

>>72392794
newfag tourist

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72393132

>>72393036
>>72393089
Nothing wrong with posting Lumi?

>> No.72393161

>>72393127
No u. That trash is how we get lumi ops.

>> No.72393170

>>72393132
Tourist

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72393232

>>72393170
Lumi belongs in the thread it was already decided.

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72393234

>>72393170
>No not like that
No.

>> No.72393287

>>72393030
Who?

>> No.72393317

This place was nice for a tiny bit. Why did you guys have to start again!?

>> No.72393322
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72393322

Let me cut it out for you schizo.
>asp turned into a social club for failed men and it was all about them and their turning female vtubers into their gf drama and crabbing.
>Fasp was created by everyone's favourite schizo, druggie and abusive bf so we could get tits pics, but it didn't happen.
>Wasp (name was changed) was then taken over so that all the advice and women self-posting wasn't drowned out by 0view males, gay erp and spergs that vagueposts and cut themselves for attention.
>Any asp or aspirering women that is not corpo, or too big numberwise, can be posted here, if /asp/ can have her in their tierlist they are considered /wasp/.
>It was better for women to be posted here to get numbers and to get design advice than to drown in /asp/ because no one wanted to look in there for female vtubers because of all the males. Good times were had.
>Then the mel/malehate schizos and that one troll that tries to post lumi in OP and camp in thread all day came
[we are here]

>> No.72393354

>>72392654
>>72393030
Are these /wasp/ie streams? I haven’t seen them before.

>> No.72393370

>>72393161
>>72393132
It is only malicious because its been spammed and without purpose but honestly many things can be learned from her.
As per the ops, the general rule in any thread is to include any OC posted in the thread first, and not to repeat the same things twice in a row.

>> No.72393405

>>72393354
No

>> No.72393420

>>72392865
No one hated Andy before faggot, not even on /asp/, the second biggest schizo den on this board. She was too good for this site I should’ve known it wouldn’t last

>> No.72393440

>72393232
No one wants lumi in thread except you asp schizo

>> No.72393465

>>72393354
It's easy to identify /wasp/ies / and adjacents by checking their twitters and seeing if they follow each other.

>> No.72393476

>>72393322
So no gura then? Sounds like you don’t speak for the entire thread.

>> No.72393501

>>72393322
Quit trying to force the thread into some specific thing you faggot just so you can post off topic shit.

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72393505

>>72393322
>>Fasp was created by everyone's favourite schizo, druggie and abusive bf so we could get tits pics, but it didn't happen.
actually fasp creator was neither him nor C*mui, the druggie schizo actually cried a few days ago he was getting skinwalked so he was probably not been around this place as much as it seems

>> No.72393523

No matter how you guys schizopost and metapost. This thread is staying and more and more femchuubas are visiting

>> No.72393539

>>72393322
/WASP/ LOVE.

Welcome and check out /wasp/!
Check the descriptive tags to easily look for the streamer you want!

>mond
cunny, moe, autism, sleepy, ESL
http://twitch.tv/mondvampir
>rura
gamer, /fig/, autism, variety, ESL
https://www.youtube.com/@rura_taurus
>rinna
cunny, /choc/, voice acting, ASMR, EOP
http://twitch.tv/rinnanoe
>ria
tomboy, autism, art, rants, EOP
http://twitch.tv/riacitrx
>andy
idol, karaoke, variety, hag, EOP
http://twitch.tv/andygraviti
>pafu
lewd, funny, hag, educational, EOP
https://www.youtube.com/@PafuPafuVT
>olga
cozy, art, hag, ESL
https://www.twitch.tv/olgaokami
>pittie
karaoke, variety, sultry voice, EOP
http://twitch.tv/pittiepitohui
>khubie
endurance, autism, hag, /jong/, Brit
http://twitch.tv/khubie
>bonni
retro, hag, comfy, Brit
http://twitch.tv/bonnipaws
>elfin
gamer, autism, variety, drinking, EOP
http://twitch.tv/elfinpsyop
>miu
cunny, moe, /fig/, variety, EOP
http://twitch.tv/miukyun
>neruru (pre-debut)
cunny, kusogaki
http://twitch.tv/nerukanimiya

>> No.72393545

>>72393440
You are just an anti

>> No.72393563

>>72390272
>>72393539
Why are you spamming this

>> No.72393590

>>72393523
Which is why we need space for them instead of turning it into something it isn’t.

>> No.72393600

>>72393563
because we need more wasp love

>> No.72393606

>>72393505
Because its me and I've been here everyday. I was readying an OP but someone else trolled first with a show tits OP

>> No.72393608

>>72393563
It pisses off the schizo

>> No.72393621

>>72393523
The male vtubers will never win.
They are trying to force their way into the thread by pretending it is for everyone.

>> No.72393649

Imagine if mods acutally did their jobs and made 2 bans. Thread would go back to being nice again.

>> No.72393655

/WASP/ LOVE.

Welcome and check out /wasp/!
Check the descriptive tags to easily look for the streamer you want!

>mond
cunny, moe, autism, sleepy, ESL
http://twitch.tv/mondvampir
>rura
gamer, /fig/, autism, variety, ESL
https://www.youtube.com/@rura_taurus
>rinna
cunny, /choc/, voice acting, ASMR, EOP
http://twitch.tv/rinnanoe
>ria
tomboy, autism, art, rants, EOP
http://twitch.tv/riacitrx
>andy
idol, karaoke, variety, hag, EOP
http://twitch.tv/andygraviti
>pafu
lewd, funny, hag, educational, EOP
https://www.youtube.com/@PafuPafuVT
>olga
cozy, art, hag, ESL
https://www.twitch.tv/olgaokami
>pittie
karaoke, variety, sultry voice, EOP
http://twitch.tv/pittiepitohui
>khubie
endurance, autism, hag, /jong/, Brit
http://twitch.tv/khubie
>bonni
retro, hag, comfy, Brit
http://twitch.tv/bonnipaws
>elfin
gamer, autism, variety, drinking, EOP
http://twitch.tv/elfinpsyop
>miu
cunny, moe, /fig/, variety, EOP
http://twitch.tv/miukyun
>neruru (pre-debut)
cunny, kusogaki
http://twitch.tv/nerukanimiya

>> No.72393669

>>72393563
schizos are pushing our girls out to make room for males

>> No.72393693

Anonymous 03/27/24(Wed)13:58:04 No.72393539>>72393563 (You)

>>72393322
/WASP/ LOVE.

Welcome and check out /wasp/!
Check the descriptive tags to easily look for the streamer you want!

>mond
cunny, moe, autism, sleepy, ESL
http://twitch.tv/mondvampir
>rura
gamer, /fig/, autism, variety, ESL
https://www.youtube.com/@rura_taurus
>rinna
cunny, /choc/, voice acting, ASMR, EOP
http://twitch.tv/rinnanoe
>ria
tomboy, autism, art, rants, EOP
http://twitch.tv/riacitrx
>andy
idol, karaoke, variety, hag, EOP
http://twitch.tv/andygraviti
>pafu
lewd, funny, hag, educational, EOP
https://www.youtube.com/@PafuPafuVT
>olga
cozy, art, hag, ESL
https://www.twitch.tv/olgaokami
>pittie
karaoke, variety, sultry voice, EOP
http://twitch.tv/pittiepitohui
>khubie
endurance, autism, hag, /jong/, Brit
http://twitch.tv/khubie
>bonni
retro, hag, comfy, Brit
http://twitch.tv/bonnipaws
>elfin
gamer, autism, variety, drinking, EOP
http://twitch.tv/elfinpsyop
>miu
cunny, moe, /fig/, variety, EOP
http://twitch.tv/miukyun
>neruru (pre-debut)
cunny, kusogaki
http://twitch.tv/nerukanimiya

>> No.72393720

>>72393655
>>72393693
Based. I will watch them all.

>> No.72393735

>>72393669
That is why he is trying to force gura and lumi in the thread

>> No.72393743

>>72393606
can you rephrase this a bit, not sure what you are trying to imply here

>> No.72393786

>>72393693
>>72393655
>>72393563
>>72393539
Oh it is a samefag then?

>> No.72393804 [DELETED] 

>>72375031
s

>> No.72393840
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72393840

A cake is fine too

>> No.72393886
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72393886

>>72393322
>shania mentioned

>> No.72393888

>>72393786
Your IQ isn't high enough to false flag like this anon

>> No.72393890

>>72393720
Even Andy?

>> No.72393973

>>72393888
Quit samefagging

>> No.72393984

>>72393886
who

>> No.72394026

>>72393840
Is it Mel?

>> No.72394075

My favorite indie vtuber is so fucking stupid she managed to dox her face, back of her credit card, and full real name in one of her first livecam stream (she was bored waiting at an airport so she decided to stream). No one commented about it in the vod yet so I'm not sure how many people realized. Should I point it out?
She has 40k subs and the vod now has 10k views

>> No.72394110

wasp
https://www.twitch.tv/laavispa

>> No.72394134

>>72394110
Finally a real wasp

>> No.72394164

>>72394075
Quit stalking chuubas creep

>> No.72394251

Wanna bet the faggot just wanted to troll and spam so he can put Lumi in OP again?

>> No.72394319

>>72393840
Nice

>> No.72394337

>>72394251
You hating her is just as off topic as she is

>> No.72394346

>>72394251
Why are you such a fucking lumi anti?

>> No.72394399

>>72394337
>>72394346
Funny how you two are always within seconds of eachother.

>> No.72394400

Its about time we get a wordfilter for schizo too. At this point it has to be the most used word on the entire site

>> No.72394477

>>72394164
She has bad op sec and someone needs to tell her. I think you can only say I cross the ethical line if spread the dox. It's currently just for personal use...

I'll be honest though, it was a great stream for me because I was very engaged with finding every reflection...

>> No.72394500

>>72394399
>Two posts are separate? SAMEFAG!
>Two posts are close? SAMEFAG!
Schizo

>> No.72394511

>>72394399
Quit ruining the thread with your retarded hatred of every girl

>> No.72394563
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72394563

>>72394400
Can't be soon enough

>> No.72394565

>>72394500
>>72394511
There we go again

>> No.72394580

>>72394500
Lol

>> No.72394616

>>72394565
Are you trolling or just retarded?

>> No.72394721

>>72394616
>pointing out the troll(s)
>lol you trolling bro

>> No.72394753

>>72394075
yes, probably in a marshmallow so she doesnt kill the messenger

>> No.72394863

>>72394721
Not even denying it.

>> No.72394875

>>72394075
Personally I would be very thankful, and have been thankful. It makes it awkward, but once that information is out it’s not like I can do anything more then damage control

>> No.72394897

>>72394863
He is trolling his best

>> No.72394915

>>72394875
Go for it

>> No.72394960

new
>>72394900

>> No.72394966

>>72394075
>40k subs
Tell /lig/ not here

>> No.72395073

>>72394960
>no tierlist

>>72394957

>> No.72395206

>>72393440
>>72393232
You messed up your reply newfriend, I got you!

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