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>>7191607
Previous thread

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>>7232938
The rightmost one is better

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pekora...

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I wonder how many hours watched does Pekora have compare to last month . Do increasing stream times but decreasing average live viewers really paid off?

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>>7232974
What website do you guys use to check out stream donation amounts?

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>>7233262
Playboard

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>>7232974
So, that's it? Niji's back to being irrelevant again just like that?

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>>7232974
been a good month for PPT

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>>7232974
What's the thing at #6?

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>>7233330
Stop falseflagging, their numbers are going to rally when the finals start.

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>>7232974
No evening Pekora stream?

Also, even if Suisei and Kanara were eating each other's audience, isn't that a bit low for prime time JP for Holo? Especially immediately after a 136k outfit reveal.

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>>7233330
Not yet, koshien is still ongoing. You'll see the drop once it is over.

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>>7233330
Anyone who wasn't tribalizing knew Niji weren't going to keep these numbers forever. At least they had a good July... compared to last year...
Big numbers are good for the community as a whole.They still have about 3 more weeks till the baseball finals, still good days ahead.

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>>7233441
Realistically there were ~70k people hanging around after Marine's stream. One thing you gotta remember for these costume streams is that many are tuning in just for the reveal and dipping for other things (work, dinner, sleep).
Aqua had about ~18k people watching her pull Gacha and Sora was streaming as well.

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>>7232974
This is a hololive without Coco Gonzalez. Watching hololive without Coco Gonzalez is like eating Taco's without using any tortillas. Completely baseless. Holobros, how does it feel knowing that from now onwards you will be eating like dogs. No different from how pathetic Nijidogs live.

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>>7232974
>back to Hololive absolutely mogging Nijisanji
Ahhh, back to normal, it feels nice

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>>7233330
Koshien finals will make Marine's crappy costume numbers look like an indie.

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>>7233771
Coco's graduation stream will make Koshien finals' numbers look like an indie.

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>>7233758
Hmmm, I don't like the sound of that.
Normal Hololive means a tragedy at the end of every month... and tomorrow's the weekend.

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>>7233771
Realistically I'm expecting 200-250k this time around, but if the stars align that day, they could pass 300k
... or i might be completely off base and Japan has a final at the Olympics and it peaks at 180k, or another lockdown starts and it somehow gets 480k or some shit, who knows till then what happens.

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PSSST, hey OP
>I'll pretend I didn't see >>7232929

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>>7234053
So many factors are also upto RNG (due to the way the game works) leading to whether Kuzuha will be in the finals or not and if it'll be tight match-up or not (like last year) etc.

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Didn't Noel get more for her previous outfit reveal?
>>7233941
I know, no one will beat Coco. I'm waiting for her to come back. (or finish her new avatar).

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>>7234278
>Didn't Noel get more for her previous outfit reveal?
It was back to back with Miko return and in the same couple of days of Coco and Haachama return.
I doubt there will be a busiest wiki for Hololive than that particular one

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>>7234486
Busiest "week"

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>>7233758
Come home to the impossible flavor of your own completion. Come home to simple numbers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8R_Tljr0o8
So this is Kadokawa's new vtuber, and she seems to be a great hit amongst russians
I wasn't able to catch her all the way through but from what I recall she had about 5k viewers

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most anons predicted 150k for marine but she fell short.
what went wrong?

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>>7233739
>Holobros, how does it feel knowing that from now onwards you will be eating like dogs

I don't mind honestly.

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>>7234624
okay zhang

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>>7234607
That's yesterday's

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>>7234621
>most anons
quote one you absolute nigger

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>>7234621
All the numbers revolve around me. If I'm not watching a stream then it'll flop tremendously. But yeah, Marines numbers weren't that bad. Besides, pekora will absolutely mog Marine costume numbers. Gura tier numbers? Probably not.

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>>7234615
Scripted content?

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When is EN 2 and JP 6 gonna come...

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>>7234728
Yep, same deal as Kizuna Ai and Mirai Akari back in the day
Honestly from the numbers they are getting it's doing fairly decently.

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>>7234615
Voiced by actually Uesaka Sumire so it's probably going to be just some infrequent promotional stuff for the light novel at best

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>>7234754
It better be a rapid fire of debuts. Another Marathon perhaps? Would be hype.

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>>7234658
For contrast/comparison purposes. I could’ve labeled it ‘yesterday’, but it’s labeled in pic.

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>>7234754
I hope it’s not October.
Don’t know what Cover is waiting for when it comes to EN2. Not like they’re gonna give them a debut song or anything like IRyS.

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>>7234615
If it's a premiere why aren't there subs?

50% of the comments are in Russian, they should have seen this coming.

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>>7235093
They don't want ROPs, they want russian weebs

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>>7235073
Waiting for EN 2's apex autist to grind to master before debuting

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>>7235073
Probably to give Irys some breathing room, flooding the market is not really thier strategy, and they couldn't debut anything before July because of Coco's graduation.

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>>7235073
Giving the new EN vtubers from other companies time to settle down and get a fanbase after their debuts. It would be rude to debut too close and steal the thunder when they're the heavyweights here.

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>>7235073
Cover is probably just waiting till the end of the Olympics for EN gen 2.

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>>7232974
FGObros...we won

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State of NijiEN2 two weeks after debut

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Ollie had an absurdly good month and the only reason she won't overcome Botan as the next millionaire is because of the head start.

If you think about it that's fucking crazy, a Holo-fucking-ID 2021 debut will overtake all but one Senpai in the race to 1M if nothing changes.

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>>7237703
The Olivia thing or whatever was hugely popular.

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>>7237931
And so was the reciting PI thing, math lessons and chess

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>>7237662
Petra seems carried by design buy it really shows how it makes so much difference sometimes.

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>>7237662
In the last five days, Selene is gaining more subs than Petra. In general, she is also getting more live viewers as well.

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>>7237703
I could tell before she even debuted, based on her twitter antics, that she was going to be a star. Somebody with that much energy always draws crowds. If she was EN she would easily be #2 behind Gura in popularity bit ID does debuff her a bit.

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>>7238189
Literally make more noise, draw more people to you, a corollary of every publicity is good publicity I guess.

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>>7238105
Well early on when people were first subscribing, everyone thought Petra was Shachi. Now they know it wasn’t the case. So it’s hard to tell what is what. Also Selene will likely pass her in subs, given the recent growth of Selene is now higher than Petra.

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So I remember that there were people freaking out that Okayu passed Miko on the road to 1 million. Well, Miko just passed Okayu back and is ahead of her again in subs. Miko has been inclining super hard lately. Massive live viewers, massive sub gains. Good for her.

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>>7238105
>it really shows how it makes so much difference sometimes.
It does, Same with Botan and Gura.

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>>7237703
It reminds me Haachama/Haato lore climax in Feb.
Creating a topic indeed boost subs

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>>7237703
Let's get back to numbers

Do you think even with Kuzuha's recent popularity boost, Botan will still be the next one to 1 million subs?
Kuzuha's gaining from the baseball and next Apex tournament, but they're very dependend on if he makes it in the finals, while Botan and Gen 5's 1 year anniversary is coming up in August.

Or will Ollie keep rising with these tournaments and collabs and surpass them? She just got shoutouts from Gundou and Nux today, once the Trash Taste Tournament Arc 2 edited special hits she'll get another boost.

Or will Kson's re-dubt attract more than the expected 100k extra subs?

Or will Holo ID have surprise 3D debuts at the start of September and PekoMoona+Subaru skyrocket her too 1 million?

BTW, I'm not expecting any HoloEN gen 2 to get 1 million subs this fast, even if they debut tomorrow.

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>>7237662
These numbers are pretty sad desu. Niji is a huge corporation and it's kind of pathetic how slow their EN growth is.

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>>7239206
For gen 2 :
Gura : 39 or 40 days (>80% can't break it)
Mori : 4 months
Ame : 5 months

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>>7237703
Ollie is pretty much HoloEN with an ID stamp.

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>>7238189
She does how ever hard filter people, similar to Kiara. Gura not so much. You either like Gura or don't care about her. With ollie it's more of you like her or you wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.

Would she have had a higher sub count, yes. Would she have been above Calli? Maybe, but Callis numbers are very much tied to song releases. Big spikes when they start making the waves.

Not saying Ollies growth isn't impressive, just that I think you're overestimating how far it reaches.

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>>7239206
I don't know if Kuzuha will make it faster unless some more events happen this fall. Most of the people subbing to him during Koshien streams are Niji fans. Something anons may not realize is Nijikoshien is for Nijisanji fans only. If you don't care about the livers, you are not watching, so he is not drawing in fresh eyes who are new to Nijisanji. Vsaikyou tournament may, but not a significant amount if he underperforms. IIRC he doesn't even have a 3rd teammate yet. It all depends. I don't even know if AR concert will give him a giant boost because again, this is a Nijisanji fan event
TLDR he will continue to gain at his steady pace with 1-2k a day after all these events

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>>7239206
botan will reach first. because in general he's been growing but not as fast. i don't think even koushien can give him the necessary boost to a faster 1mil. (it's not a bad thing, he's been quite stable for a while and i think it's actually a strength of his.)

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>>7239206
>Do you think even with Kuzuha's recent popularity boost, Botan will still be the next one to 1 million subs?
Sorry anon, I should have been more specific and say "next Hololive millionaire" as I (still) don't have data on Nijis.

This weekend I may complete the scraper and then I'll be able to mix and match both company predictions

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>>7240126
>She does how ever hard filter people
Yeah, screaming in the mic ceased to be novelty with Rushia and Haachama all the way back into 2020, to a point they only do it on "special occasions" now instead of on every stream

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>>7239206
kson vtuber is aimed for october novemeber.
i think most of EN2 will hit 1M at the same rate ina and kaira did.
Anycolor already busted their load this month. it depends entirely on cover to make something interesting for the vtuber scene for fall-winter.

Holo id aint getting 3d becasue of the coof both on indonesia and japan.

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>>7240340
>kson vtuber is aimed for october novemeber.
Like Nyanners her numbers would only be valid for this humble numberfag thread if she started a new VTuber only account otherwise it's anarchy and Pokimane one off vtubing model would count too

AND WORSE!
> SODAPOPPING GUY WOULD BE RIGHT!

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>>7240488
I agree.

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>>7239206
Botan grows more naturally in subs than Kuzuha. It was only during this month that Kuzuha had a huge boost. He was getting less subs that Botan at the start of the month.

Ollie will hit a cap at 800k and would slowly grow from there

Coco's roommate has insider info on when EN 2 will debut so she'll likely avoid that or ride it's wave for her vtuber debut.

Unless there's another cunny like Gura, a game autist like korone, a leader like Coco, a streaming autist like Pekora or a zatsudan pro like Marine comes in for EN 2, I doubt they'll reach to 1M that fast. HoloEN was wholly carried by Gura, Mori's music and Ame's innovation. They need someone on the level of the 5 mentioned earlier or a new breath of fresh air like an apex/Minecraft autist or a better version of Kiara

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>>7240488
...Anon.. you need to accept the truth.
Kson Onair was always a vtuber channel.

It took her 9 months since starting it to stream with a webcam, all other 35 available videos since her debut are with the avatar

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>>7240964
>Siro channel
>-500
Oh how the kings had fallen

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>>7240964
She even has a separate name for her vtuber persona now. Excluding her would be like excluding Tamaki. Though it would be more proper to call her Daiko from now on.

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>>7232974
Imagine if Type Moon makes a chuuba

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>>7241121
someone obviously didn't watch Nero's NicoNico streams

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>>7240488
>numbers are only valid if you weren’t a VTuber in the past.
Huh, Gura was a VTuber in the past. By what you’re saying, is if they leave Cover, they are gone forever. Funny stuff.

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>>7241121
Oh yes, if only we could imagine such a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN7POteJXBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyxME9uC_Sc

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>>7241121
>I will save every vtuber from nijisanji

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>>7240964
>Kson Onair was always a vtuber channel
Honestly it doesn’t matter. She can go from Coco to become a VTuber as kson, and it’s all the same thing (VTuber), all of which will be counted. People saying they won’t count her doesn’t mean others here won’t. I certainly will be counting her once she gets her new VTuber look in November or whenever.

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>>7240925
I agree with you overall, only nitpick I would say is that apex autism only really works if you can cater to the JP fans and you got on JP prime time.

If anything a breath of fresh air would be a new trendsetter, what ever that trend would be.

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Just shy of 2k for beni at 6am. Pretty good

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Rosemi finally breaking the 1000 viewer barrier for her "celebration". Still under $1000 superchat though.

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>>7241312
Not him, but I don't know where you got any of what you just posted. Gura was Gura from the beginning, and once she graduates, she will still be Gura, the VTuber character. Roommate shit is irrelevant to that point.

Nyaaners and Kson are different in that they had gone through multiple phases in that same account, including being a facecam content creator. It's understandable if it were one of them people that went from avatarfagging jpg/png on streams like Bahroo and Nuxtaku since that's their persona and not their real faces, but not those two.

On another note, how do you count for people that "re-roll" their accounts to keep their dragging their previous audience into their new incarnation? The answer is: you don't.

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>>7241765
Ok, you convinced me.
I'll switch from Ina and pity watch Rosemi.

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>>7240155
I do agree mostly, but he still has a lot of events planned but unannounced like his 3D chronoir live in August (?), his 3.0 reveal, his fully rigged female costume from april fools, and an upcoming cover that he was supposed to release months ago. I do think there's a possibility for multiple boosts to push him above 1mil before botan, especially if he gets another KING-like buff. If he starts collabing with twitch streamers like stylishnoob again, it might help too.

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>>7241712
And now she's near 2.4k
Strong numbers for this time

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>>7242125
Are you’re saying that because we know ksons face, when she gets her new VTuber design, that you personally won’t count it? It doesn’t matter, because others will count it. Coco obviously plans to continue VTubing at some point, and this seems like a transition period, where she has to keep interest until then.
>how do you count for people that "re-roll" their accounts to keep their dragging their previous audience into their new incarnation?
By counting the new numbers of whatever VTuber they become. Saying no one who leaves Hololive is ever allowed to be counted again, doesn’t work.

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>>7242430
>his fully rigged female costume from april fools
That’s not happening

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>>7242430
That's paid for Nijisanji fans like I said, no one who isn't subbed is shelling money for that, especially not a Chronoir fan
>April Fools
That was a joke, you know, April Fools
>3.0
Maybe. I didn't see a massive spike for the other 3.0 raffle winners, but he will see something above his averafe 1.5k sub gain that day
>cover
This is one of the things that can give a boost, like you said if it's another KING occurence.

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>>7242945
am i too ESL? what does the first sentence mean.

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>>7242945
>shelling money
pretty sure they said it was a youtube live so it's free. plus kuzuha said he wanted to become like sutopuri and USSS lately, if he stops acting up, he might get their audience.
>April Fools
it's already rigged and he said he would show it if people gave him enough money. i have hope.

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>>7243121
No I'm just retarded, I meant Nijisanji fans are paying for that concert, which means the only people being exposed to it are Nijisanji fans who are already subbed to Kuzuha and co. so he won't see a massive boost.

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>>7243176
>it's already rigged
How do you know? Could just be a drawing which is still a huge tease

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>>7243176
>kuzuha said he wanted to become like sutopuri and USSS lately
Really? Because Sutopuri are mogging everyone on their individual channels with ease. Was the poster who was saying they're looking at doing more idol activities a few threads ago not actually lying?

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>>7242526
The reason no one tries to count accounts that had a previous persona like Nyanners is that their numbers are not intrinsic to their VTuber persona. Adding disclaimers or discounting the numbers is just adding unnecessary extra steps to a metric that is no longer useful to parse for when numberfag (and even they would be hard-pressed to attribute achievements to the persona that they created, the one the preceeded it or just themselves). Mind you, most people here were okay with people like Nyanners and Bahroo popping up on the VNUMA ranking because at that point they pretty much were streaming under their VTuber exclusively.

>Saying no one who leaves Hololive is ever allowed to be counted again, doesn’t work.
Who said this? I know I didn't. Gura is Gura, Coco is Coco and 'Yogurt' isn't 'Chesnut'. If their roommates reincarnate as VTubers, then those are counted and are considered as separate from the previous persona just like the many chuubas that reincarnated before. They operate under different branding and in many cases under different rules. That we know the relationship between their current and previous personas is largely irrelevant, otherwise people like IRyS would be labeled 100 MILLION VIEWS VSINGER unironically.

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>>7243312
i rewatched the video and i'm retarded. for some reason, i've always thought it moved. regardless, i still have hope i can see sanya this year

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>>7240925
gura's more because she has always been blessed by the algo than cunny imo

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>>7234615
Now that I think about it, it surprises a little that me that no mid to high tier VA has started streaming as a vtuber. I figure a top tier like Hanakana with even a little bit of backing would almost certainly be successful, plus for mid tiers that aren't guaranteed major roles, if you made it as a vtuber the fact you could promote shows you work on on stream would surely help your VA career as well.

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>>7243657
It's been forever since I gave a shit about seiyuu but some (one that I know of) does
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBz3ZLAMLt9h_XKsd8rVTAg/videos
Onoyuu

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>>7243408
he has been saying he wanted to be like USSS (utaite group) since last year. this year, he added sutopuri and ATR (mafumafu+soraru). this is quite consistent with him going for proper voice training recently, and turning up for more 3D performances. it'll be pretty sick if he could nab their audience

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>>7244153
i know this is a numbers thread but if true this sounds exciting. i didn't think of him as someone motivated to try something new.

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>>7243416
>they would be hard-pressed to attribute achievements to the persona that they created
Almost all of the achievement is from Coco, which will be passed on to the new VTuber identity. She is simply in transition, where she has to keep interest until then.
>because at that point they pretty much were streaming under their VTuber exclusively.
You’re assuming kson won’t be doing do after she gets her new design. I’m assuming she will, at least for the most part. Kiara has two YouTube accounts, and the success of the new account boosts her old account. In both these examples, it’s the VTuber boosting the other channel.
>no one tries to count accounts that had a previous persona like Nyanners
Some people do, but most don’t like her enough to care. Also her numbers tend to be too low to bother. She was counted here (posted about) when she hit 20k before, but it’s not often. Because there isn’t much to say.
>Adding disclaimers or discounting the numbers
There would be no need to add a disclaimer that Coco became a new VTuber, just as Gura having her old audience (from past VTuber account) combined with her new audience (from current account), doesn’t need a disclaimer.

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If you want to be in the "ranking"(mainly subs)
Here is a simple solution:
1.Create a new channel with 0 sub
2.Claim yourself a vtuber
3.Debut in that new channel
Ofc you can still be a vtuber without any ranking

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>>7232974
Pekora's really mistranslating the streaming meta. Twitch meta =/= youtube meta. Marine's strategy of posting short videos and then moderate streaming is the correct strat. Her spamming streams will not work.

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>>7241712
Beni is inclining

She is collabing with a big streamer (who isn't streaming his pov as far as I can see).
But she'll be grouped with him from the 1st for a twitch valorant tournement, so this is team bonding.

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>>7246644
Good for her. There isn't much vspo talk in here and you seem to watch so insight on their numbers is welcome

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>>7246391
I think she just wanted to stream more during summer vacation.
But you are right, Twitch promotes constant consistent streaming, while YT promotes consistent high video views. The Hololive format of 1-2 hour packed streams actually looks to be better for YT.

Wish Fubuki would make shorts again.
More smiling friends.

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>>7241312
>if they leave Cover, they are gone forever.
Nope. But if she starts streaming in the same manner Valkyrie or Pokimane do (with a face cam) she ceases to be a vtuber even if she keeps the Gawr Gura account.

Imagine the caricature it would be if on year 3 of face cam Gura people continued calling her a VTuber. It would be a mockery of both the English language and this humble thread.

>>7240964
>>7241533
>all of which will be counted.
Why would you count people they subscribed to see the voice actor on a facecam as a “vtuber subscription”?
Should you count CDawg streaming with an avatar as well?

It would be useful to have a clear definition for what a vtuber is ***for the purpose of this thread*** and I propose the following
>to be target of vtuber nunberfaggotry an account must have debuted as a vtuber and never have broken character into the physical in person real voice actor / actress behind it.

It’s not hard to figure out why and it’s essentially what’s considered a vtuber already.

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>>7246743
There should be though. I get that they rarely pass 10k live viewers to appear in the charts but, before Nijisanji and sutopuri completely mogged July, Vspo was the group on the best incline.

Right when they switched to Valorant and started playing more as a unified group, Nazuna also started her morning news series. This did the same as Asacoco to bring in everyone and promote them as a unit.
They started playing Minecraft as a unit too and just had their big summer fest collab. Nazuna hit 100k too, Vspo is hitting their popular period.

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>>7234053
Noone gives a shit bout olympics. And the olympics end before mountain day, nijikoshien start during bon festival.

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>>7247270
Clippers (JOP and EOP) are picking up their activities or it’s live only for the time being?

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>>7247485
Individuals had dedicated subbers but yeah, just searching their romanji names and there's a lot of new clippers who are getting in on the group.
5-10k views per clip for a 500sub channel is good incentive to continue.

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>>7247485
JOP clippers are making more VSpo clips, from what I have seen. Or the algorithm is recommending them more.

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30k on Gura karaoke

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>>7246923
so this means inuyama tamaki is out? well tamaki never makes it to these threads anyway but i'm asking.

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>>7247849
>>7247702
>>7247485
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFht3Ite1H2fDF5_alQBgHQ/videos
Just take them as an example. Most of their clips in the last month have featured VSpo.

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>>7246923
For me to consider kson a VTuber in the future, she only has to primarily stream as one (like after she gets her new design). If kson then becomes a VTuber again, but we still know her past identity (face or whatnot), it is similar to other Hololive streamers to which we know their past identity anyway. If numbers are judged mostly on the success of the VTuber, then we can still see that those came from Coco and not the roommate to which she is mainly using as a transition period. If Kiara were to quit Hololive for instance, she would go back to roommate channel to regroup, then transition into another if she wanted. That is normal behavior.

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>>7247973
I'd expect her to beat IRyS handily.

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>>7247994
It would also mean every artist who's appeared in person, like Kagura Nana, or every seyuu Vtuber are disqualified too.
It's stupid coping and >>7246923 anon should stop digging themselves deeper.

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>>7247485
>>7248042

Gets roughly 1mil views a day with only 50k subs meaning he's extremely relevant when it comes to the JOP algorithm.

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>>7248389
Why do JP bros hate subscribing so much anon?

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>>7248389
Oh, they're also the ones that made the biggest Kanon clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-3i-3p1YkM

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>>7240155
>>7242430

Are you dipshits fucking retarded?? Koushien 2020 caused an influx of new nijisanji fans due to the fact that the real koushien got cancelled. Now in 2021 you see tweets from Japanese fans tuning into this years koushien instead of the olympics since most Japanese find the way it’s handled during a goddamn explosion of cases there retarded.

I hate Uninformed numberfags with every fibre of my fucking being

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>>7249009
>the real koushien got cancelled.
Is it cancelled this year too?

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Selene should stick mainly to Apex, because she’s streaming at 4.1k again while playing it.

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Starts in 10 mins. My prediction is 37k.

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>>7249038
Most likely considering that events are getting cancelled left and right, hell Japan reached a record number of goddamn cases of around 4000 cases

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>>7249047
No, because that's stupid in the longterm. What if Apex gets replaced by a hot new FPS within a year and she has only gained an Apex audience? They will leave. She is cultivating a dedicated fanbase who will watch her play anything and she still can get the big numbers for Apex.

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>>7249167
won't break 30k, gura is done for

[Anonymous No.]

Holobronies, please explain yourselves. Why do more people watch a shitty badly rigged 2D model get new clothes than 3D concerts with a lot of different members in it? Is Cover's 3D really that bad?

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>>7249338
Mostly because it’s the same fucking shit for 3D streams with no variety where as the outfit reveals has a lot of teasing and showcases of speculative fan art before showing off the actual costume.

It just works

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>>7249192
not canceled but limited to 10k audience allowed.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2021/07/21/baseball/japanese-baseball/summer-koshien-spectator-decision/

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>>7249338
One is a new thing and is a surprise the other is something everyone knows

[Anonymous No.]

Thread is gonna be unusable for days if they don't break last years viewership. When are finals anyways?

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>>7249511
15th

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>>7249338
we do it exclusively to watch you seethe afterwards

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>>7249009
the thread got worst after nijien2 debuted.
Olympics ends on the 8th of July, Niji Koshien starts during Obon week, the 16th Friday to the 18th Sunday. I don't get why this nigs doomposting olympics and koshien overlapping.

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>>7249192
>>7249439
i feel like there would actual suicides if they cancelled it this time

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>>7249338
Why are you trying to compare the two events anyway? They got 100k views. Who cares if both of them are higher or lesser than the other. Better yet,

>Why do more people watch a shitty badly rigged 2D model
Kek isn't it the same for your new JP debuts too. For a new JP gen, they had some dumpster tiered rigging going on.

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>>7249511
at least it will break Gura's outfit reveal

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>>7249620
>8th of July, 16th Friday to the 18th Sunday
oops timetravelchama... I mean August 8th, niji koshien 13th Friday to 15th Sunday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7249620
Is this the result of retards only having extremely basic understanding of nijisanji?

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>>7249738
That's a cope when I see one. It's just an outfit reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7249167
i say 30k just becasue it is BARD SONGS
whichi might not be everyones likingh

[Anonymous No.]

>>7250152
bard songs with sharky is kino, I'm glad normalfags are filtered out

[Anonymous No.]

What's slow mode anyone? doesn't work on Gura's chat with only 25k viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to gura her numbers have decline so much since her first karaoke it is ridiculous. Back then her karaoke got at least 50k but she struggling to get 30k. What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7238327
She is actually entertaining. I can see why she and pekora go separate way. They are too powerfull together so them being with different girls always give huge entertaining contents/interactions.

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>>7251047
35k is pretty normal for her karaoke

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>>7250262
It won't break 35k unless she takes this to two hours so that people can get this recommended to them.
From a numbers perspective, Gura's been screwing it up a bit.
>No indication when she's going to be back after PC broke (breaks not scheduled in in-general)
>Doesn't post schedule to YT community tab.
>Schedule posted with unarchived Karaoke less than 24 hours before said karaoke so people won't have time to plan around it and tune in

I have no doubt that a lot of Gura's watchers don't even open twitter to check for her schedule, and just throwing it up on the community tab...

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>>7251234
don't reply to bait

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>>7250910
She has at least 20k members, with information from a fan-discord requiring member verification for a member-tag putting it at least 25k 'verified' in that discord alone, I think.
Slow mode is going to jack-shit with that many members if even only 30% of those are in this stream. (7k unaffected by slow mode)

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>>7240925
100% agree

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>>7243657
For mid-tier VA probably but it's still a lots of work outside of their voice training, Va jobs, and who knows how many partime they do.
As for the High-tier ones like Hanakana, anon... their voice are too expensive for a free shit like doing chuuba. Unless it's out of their own hobby or passion like DaiOno or Sugita, i dont see why they would do streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>7252281
Won't the money be a good reason? I think they have a sizeable following that will watch them regularly

[Anonymous No.]

>>7233739
I'm a Marine simp so I'm feeling pretty well-fed, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7251234
This >>7251318
But also, I wouldn't be surprised the number is lower than her previous karaokes because it's her worst karaoke by far in terms of quality and song choices. People probably checked out after the first few mediocre bardcore songs. It's a niche meme genre for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7252696
Her numbers keep going up though, I don't think that's the issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7252480
>Anon believes vtuber's earning are comparable to what A tier seiyuus get
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>7252696
>it's her worst karaoke by far in terms of quality
She seems drunk, but is clearly having fun. People are staying because it’s still fun for them. She’s fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7252998
I know what they get when they have a project. I also know that a lot do personal projects like music or even do their own web, radio or t.v. shows. That's not really different from streaming 1 or 2 times a week online for 2hrs each time. It will probably be more stable rather than chasing every project when there's none. Competition is fierce

[Anonymous No.]

What happened? This thread was surprisingly civil 2 hours ago and now it's people arguing over damn karaoke numbers.
Is this how it always is when NA gets off work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7253471
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7253471
The discussion is pretty civil. Nothing to discuss other than the sharky who is streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>7253471
SEA has woken up

[Anonymous No.]

>>7253471
Antis always seething when gura start stream something. Pretty normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>7253471
No one is even arguing wtf. Just one guy throwing shit bait about Gura reclining because her meme karaoke today isn't getting as high a peak as her last one.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

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>>7253313
And those things you mentioned anon need to always be prioritized as it's their way to incline. Moreover, i feel like being Vtuber for an already established VA is really bad for the VA. I'd rather have my name known within the industry instead of my character name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254015
Marine's supachas were surprisingly low, even if you account for incoming birthday, merch and all that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254015
What were lain and axia doing ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254314
Got superchats open. This was the first superchat-able stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254015
Those are some pretty good SC numbers for Lain and Axia's monetization streams.
Marine's is low for costume, but others have mentioned that Merch + Live the next day are dragging the numbers down a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254015
Any special events going on? I know Botan had her 900k karaoke and Marine had her costume reveal but what about all the others on the list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254015
Lain & Axia: first superchat stream. Lauren opened his for like 5 minutes then turned it off because he'd rather have an animation when you SC
Genzuki's birthday countdown
Debidebi 400k celebration
Rosemi first superchat stream

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>>7254497
Suisie's first singing stream in like 3 weeks, including her new song.
Kanata did a sad ikemen host club stream
Genzuki birthday
Debiru 400k stream
Miko collab with eroge company announcement
Rosemi monetization
Korone drinking stream
Aqua gatcha stream

[Anonymous No.]

The fuck did nijisanji do that their new JPs had a far better start than the previous year's waves?

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>>7254244
Quite the opposite, it got 1k$ more than her goth loli costume during Hololive's max period.
https://playboard.co/en/video/uaZ7qh4HAzc

Costume reveals don't get that much in SC for most hololive members. They get more for milestones usually.

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>>7255162
they are based

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255162
Not shit them out in masses of waves.
It's been a year since their last 'wave', and it also looks like they went for a higher quality batch of streamers too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255162
they chose males

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>>7255162
I mean, we talked about this a lot
EN 2 coming up to warm things up and bring in EoP
Baseball seasons starts to focus all the fanbase
another lockdown in Japan
First JP wave for either Niji or Holo announced in 11 months.
They were guaranteed success through promotion.
It also worked out that the group stayed popular enough after a week to capitalize.
Lain and Leos are going to hit 200k subs today even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255162
waited over a year before releasing one

[Anonymous No.]

FGO Chads win again

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255399
Did EN really impact their viewers? Even when Oliver flips between English and Japanese the majority of the chat that reacts to it is Japanese

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>>7251047
Youtube happened. She hasn't broken 50k since Dec 2020 outside of the Costume reveal

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>>7254015
Lain was really bad at superchat baiting. She started reading superchat from the first minute of her stream instead of doing something else for an hour before she start reading superchat, no zatsudan inbetween, going through superchat too fast, one pattern response, etc. I'm surprised she's doing that well.

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>>7255786
no. idk what that guy smoking

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>>7255789
Bday stream 54k peak.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/86UdOrzFXxQ

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>>7256596
Ah, right missed that one
But both special events

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255323
This

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>>7255323
>>7256714
Valz never enjoyed the success that these guys are getting in a little over a week, they're all on their way to surpass the highest performing one

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255786
No.
>First JP wave for either Niji or Holo announced in 11 months.
It's mostly this. They have more exposure than any niji wave debut before them

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>>7249167
How where the numbers at the end?

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>>7257140

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>>7257140

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>>7257140

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>>7257201
Thanks, seems pretty normal for Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7257140
Gura got up to 34k, and I had picked 37k for my prediction. Close enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7257324
She would have got more views if she did a variety set list instead of focusing on one element.
The stream was enjoyable, but it was not kneel-worthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7256792
anon they don't know who valz is all they know about nijisanji is whatever's in shitty bait threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>7257887
>>7256792
people are counting their chiken too soon imo
only leo is looking great right now.
but the others have showed sign of reclining and debut buff wearing off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254969
>Miko collab with eroge company
>Marine getting a swimsuit for her new costume
Is Cover going a bit easier on the restrictions now? This is a very good sign in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7258075
>something goes well for one or several vtubers
>/vt/ notices and discusses it
>random anons start hyping them up and make largely overestimated predictions, possibly on purpose
(you are here)
>people falseflag using said predictions
>vtubers end up underperforming
>anons (usually the same as in step 3) now turn to saying the vtubers/their fans got BTFO
>people who point out it was falseflaggers get told they are coping
rinse dry repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>7258075
I'm not saying they're going to massively incline and zoom past everyone, but saying that the fact that they're male is the reason they're getting NUMBERS is stupid when the last male wave they released is hovering around 180k-250k subs after a year. It is very much realistic to say they'll drop down to average lower numbers than they're getting now, they have a lot of interested eyes on them but it's too early to build up an established fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7257624
I blame clipper cuz unarchive isn't matter anymore. Plus she just got back and post a schedule 10hrs ago so her normie fans may not know about it.

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>>7258152
>Is Cover going a bit easier on the restrictions now?
I thought the same thing in another thread. If so, it likely has to do with learning from the Coco situation. Because the restrictions backfired in that instance. Still too early to tell though. It’s going to take a lot more for me to believe it fully.

[Anonymous No.]

June 2021 (pic) vs July 2021
中央値 July median views (number of streams)
>57,118(4枠) ココ Coco

>37,517(5枠) はあと Haachama
>31,837(16枠) マリン Marine
>30,963(43枠) ぺこら Pekora

>21,392(29枠) みこ Miko
>21,229(4枠) あやめ Ayame
>21,077(21枠) スバル Subaru
>20,179(11枠) すいせい Suisei

>19,298(7枠) あくあ Aqua
>17,661(19枠) るしあ Rushia
>17,140(27枠) かなた Kanata
>16,416(27枠) ころね Korone
>12,419(25枠) ぼたん Botan
>11,080(23枠) ノエル Noel
>10,545(18枠) ミオ Mio
>10,339(18枠) ねね Nene
>10,043(27枠) フレア Flare

>9,901(31枠) わため Watame
>9,527(21枠) おかゆ Okayu
>9,269(31枠) フブキ Fubuki
>8,514(31枠) ラミィ Lamy
>8,374(9枠) ポルカ Polka
>6,395(22枠) トワ Towa
>6,162(20枠) まつり Matsuri
>5,586(26枠) ルーナ Luna

[Anonymous No.]

>>7254498
>Rosemi first superchat stream
More like third

[Anonymous No.]

>>7258075
Oliver has inclined if anything. He managed to keep a respectable number of viewers for hours while he got only 5-7k before the collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7259379
Choco also talked about unprivating all of her swimsuit streams.

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>>7259812
They're testing the waters. It'd be easy for them to tell the girls "don't say anything about swimsuits" but they went as far as to send Marine all the swimsuit art from that art book to show on her stream, and YAGOO himself was retweeting swimsuit pics that the girls posted.

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>>7259812
Cover only needs to tell the girls to avoid putting swimsuits in the thumbnail, as YouTube likely auto-detects some of these as clickbait. Swimsuits in the stream itself fine. YouTube cracks down hard on clickbait, and the most prominent form of it has been sexy bikini girls for clicks.

I’m just a bit confused though. Maybe Cover came to conclusion that the extra restrictions weren’t beneficial long-term insomuch as they were hurting their image? Maybe more streamers than Coco wanted to quit over it? I know Haachama was thinkin about quitting but was talked out of it. Either way, it would be nice if Cover simply returned to their older self, with greater allowance for collabs as well. We shall see though. I’m certainly not celebrating yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7260472
No one's going to quit over swimsuits. The real issue for most of the girls is red tape. You hear about the approval process being slow more often than you hear about management rejecting ideas, and for the most part content type has not changed. Coco's case is unique because by her own admission she'd constantly argue loopholes to do what she wanted anyway, setting her and management at loggerheads and creating a very unhealthy, distrustful environment for both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7259523
wasn't the 5k stream his book reading stream in the middle of the night too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7260745

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>>7260711
>No one's going to quit over swimsuits
I think you’re confused. When we mention swimsuits being restricted in regards to restrictions in general, we don’t meant that only swimsuits were restricted. It’s an example of it.
>red tape
Red tape is ultimately obstruction. Like in regards to collabs, insomuch as it restricts ease of collabs, thereby lowering the amount of them.
>You hear about the approval process being slow more often than you hear about management rejecting ideas
Actually we hear about both, as Coco said. Many of her ideas were being censored by management, which she made clear to Kiara. Ultimately both a flat out no, and slowing things to a crawl, is ultimately restricting freedom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7261129
I specifically pointed out Coco's case was unique and why. You can't use her own words only when it suits you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7261247
You still seem confused. Coco specifically told the EN girls to fight against the restrictions, and was worried that management would prevent her from even saying that. This is after Coco talked to the EN girls in private many times before this, so she’s not obvious to what was happening within Cover. Kiara herself also thought EN management had even greater restrictions than JP, in that she gelt she was being held to a different standard.

You also seem to be no longer addressing your “red tape” argument. I figured you would keep pretending that it cannot obstruct the amount of collabs or whatnot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7260711
I still fail to understand how people keep trying to doompost saying Cover is restricting the girls when much of what they were doing a year ago is pretty much the same they are doing today and anything that they have actually restricted was down to YouTube, Capcom and people making their content delivery life hell in the span of a few months. The only good to come of this though is that they are now building a proper internal corporate culture that will hopefully safeguard them from possible implosion due to sheer negligence. The girls just need to be a bit more understanding and patient especially if they were there when it happened. I am certain that they will get better about all this red tape BS in the long term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7261468
>Cover is not restricting the girls
Coco said “we” get censored by management, so not just herself. Go to 1:55:00:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-VghW7SaM

[Anonymous No.]

>>7261672
Can't wait for Kson to get her stuff set up so we can see what content she was restricted from making, because like the other anon said, Holos are still doing novelty stream ideas in spite of Cover supposedly going nazi. I mean Haachama is reviewing R18 art next month again so idk. My guesses are:
- overt sex jokes/sex experience talk
- edgy suicide jokes like the hanging kanata pic she did for Asacoco
- jokes that make fun of other countries and stereotypes
- jokes that make fun of corporations/devs that could affect future sponsorships
- maybe some edgy jokes about holomems that Cover was afraid of spawning rrats on 5ch(?)
- real talk that is too real and breaks vtuber immersion

[Anonymous No.]

>>7261460
Red tape =/= restrictions, don't twist words to serve your purpose. There's a difference between "you can do this but we need to do our due diligence in checking the content, it'll take time" and "you cannot do this" and if you pretend otherwise you're being disingenuous.

And sure, Coco told the girls to push back against management. She also said that management didn't trust her anymore because she would keep finding loopholes to get her way, and that's why her ideas keep getting turned down. That is a situation that is unique to her and unless there is proof otherwise it remains so. It's funny how the girls, Coco included, shittalk management all the time and point out their flaws, and continue doing so without being shutdown despite the fearmongering that they're going to be silenced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262171
>maybe some edgy jokes about holomems that Cover was afraid of spawning rrats on 5ch
This one is probably the real reason that we see asacoco being neutered. I remember that Marine streams Rimworld and using Holomember as pawn and she needs to write precaution that what happened in the game isn't real

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262293
Red tape can easily restrict the ease of collabs, thereby decreasing them. Ultimately being a form of obstruction. You’re also acting like “going over the content” does not lend itself to restrictions caused by “red tape”.
>censorship is unique to Coco
Read this: >>7261672

>>7262171
>Cover supposedly going nazi
No one said “nazi”. Also it seems like the restrictions may being lowered a bit now. Read these in order to better follow the conversation:
>>7258152
>>7259379
>>7259812
>>7260283
>>7260472

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>>7262171
But Kson does not make that type of content at all and coco at most makes sex jokes which is something other hololive members do anywhy.
So what the fuck are you talking about anon.

In about other holo doing stuff like haachama r-18 stream or swimsuits coming back. You possible don't think having a popular member graduate could have made hololive loosen up a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a debuff game, but Petra's viewers have definitely fallen off a cliff lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7260711
I think this is more the case here, Coco was very good at finding loopholes and it eventually led to her accidentally making that suicide forest reference. Management before then seemed to be at least somewhat fine with letting the girls do things unsupervised until this blew up and then dialed it up to 100 and required full approval on everything.
Coco leaving and seeing big hitters like Marine publicly say they thought about quitting probably made Cover realize they need to ease up on restrictions a bit.
I can’t imagine pre-graduation management approving Ameilias 3D streams for instance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262638
I did not say censorship was unique to Coco, I said that the level of restrictions imposed on Coco was, indirectly or otherwise, unique to her. No one is arguing there are no restrictions whatsoever, just that the restrictions are not at a level that would make many of the other girls want to quit. If anything, the cut that Cover takes would be more of a valid reason.

What Cover is willing to allow has not changed much outside of swimsuits since they were never willing to allow Coco as much leeway as she got in the first place. The major difference between 2019 and now is that management is checking a lot more thoroughly (and wasting a lot more time) for potential gaffes. It's not even something unique to them, AnyColor went so far as to hire an external company for surveillance and vetting of social media and stream content. >https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000054.000029662.html
Cover should probably do the same and outsource it because it'd cut a lot of the red tape that I've been saying is the real issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262987
Don't forget the zhang freakout either so management probably got way more anal. Then there the fact that hololive is becoming more popular also so previous type of content allowed is suddenly not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262992
>that the restrictions are not at a level that would make many of the other girls want to quit
We don’t know that. What we do know is that Coco said “we” are often being censored by management, while Kiara was clearly agreeing. That is what’s established.
>What Cover is willing to allow has not changed much outside of swimsuits
After Cover knew Coco was leaving, there were less restrictions on collabs too.

I think I should make it clear that I’m not attacking or hating on Cover here, but rather I’m happy that many of the criticisms about the company seem to be addressed more lately. At least it appears that way to me so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7259380
Anya is inclining? Has her potential started paying off?

[Anonymous No.]

I think a big restriction compared to the past is the lack of live 3D streams as well (almost everything be pre-recorded recently)..
If I recall, it was Kanata who mentioned that because of Covid they have to book the studio 3+ weeks in advance to do any 3D streams and something like Marine's gen 3 concert almost didn't happen probably because she wanted to do it live instead of pre-recorded.
>>7263430
I recall that the exact same time the EN girls got permission to collab with Coco they also go permission for one-time collabs with Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7258152
Nah, IRyS got a warning LIVE for joining the JP server of minecraft instead of EN and also collabing with Polka despite the ban for the international branches still not lifted for her.
Also, Cover already collabed with an eroge company.
Marine and other holos sang the OP for an eroge game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7263726
>IRyS got a warning LIVE for joining the JP server of minecraft instead of EN
That doesn’t mean Cover hasn’t been lifting restrictions in general (on swimsuits, collabs, etc), and if things continue as they have, maybe Cover will eventually merge the JP and EN servers together, allowing access to each other. In which case it’s just a continual trend of decreasing restrictions over time.

[Anonymous No.]

Does YouTube recommend channels more if they make more super chat money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262894
I mean that's the curious part right? Kson's content doesn't even seem that "out there" right now that it needed to be censored heavily so we're all curious what content she wanted to make as Coco that Cover kept saying no to. They're just speculations as to what could possibly be so bad that Coco had to graduate over it.

>>7263726
Everyone talks about Irys and Polka getting "punishment" as a joke. It was clearly a mistake and neither got punished at all for it.

>>7263430
>>7262987
Marine didn't think of quitting because of restrictions, she wanted to quit because Coco leaving made her really sad.
In Amelia's Q&A, she was directly asked about management and restrictions. She literally said management shutting down ideas doesn't happen as much as everyone says it does. She does say she usually just goes ahead and asks for forgiveness afterwards, but she knows where the line is and doesn't cross it.

https://youtu.be/99A-sYbD__I?t=3443

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262894
I mean that's the curious part right? Kson's content doesn't even seem that "out there" right now that it needed to be censored heavily so we're all curious what content she wanted to make as Coco that Cover kept saying no to. They're just speculations as to what could possibly be so bad that Coco had to graduate over it.

>>7263726
Everyone talks about Irys and Polka getting "punishment" as a joke. It was clearly a mistake and neither got punished at all for it. Polka is still spamming Batman memes on twitter because Irys called her a hero. It's a total nothingburger.

>>7263430
>>7262987
Marine didn't think of quitting because of restrictions, she wanted to quit because Coco leaving made her really sad.
In Amelia's Q&A, she was directly asked about management and restrictions. She literally said management shutting down ideas doesn't happen as much as everyone says it does. She does say she usually just goes ahead and asks for forgiveness afterwards, but she knows where the line is and doesn't cross it.

https://youtu.be/99A-sYbD__I?t=3443 [Embed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7264217
>management shutting down ideas doesn't happen as much
unless you're pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>7263623
>I think a big restriction compared to the past is the lack of live 3D streams as well (almost everything be pre-recorded recently)..
Anon, your Covid reps...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7262971
1.2k is pretty good for nijien, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7264020
Not as far as could be observed. SC isn't such a significant amount of money for YouTube as general ad revenue and YouTube Premium subs are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7263726
What warning? IRyS said in her stream afterwards that she was just told to be a little careful in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7264569
Maybe for superchat reading stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>7264588
i warn her to stop. if not i will personally get there to punish her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7264569
Nowadays, NijiEN's average is like 2k, with 3k being an good stream and 4-5k being Selen playing Apex or karaoke maybe. This particular Petra stream isn't on Playboard so I can't check if she was doing superchat reading already at 1.2k tho. She has 890 rn reading donations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7264309
>Kson
It's more likely that she doesn't actually want to do anything out there, management just doesn't trust her anymore due to the last few times she found loopholes after agreeing she wouldn't. It's gotten into their minds that "if she's asking to do A, she MUST be wanting to do A+B+C", and that's a really toxic situation for both parties to be in. They don't trust her anymore, she doesn't trust them anymore, better to part ways.

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>>7263726
You know nobody knows what she was bonked for, right? It's just assumptions and rrat peddlers that make it seem as such. For all we know it's the merchant joke she made, or even completely unrelated

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>>7264704
Nah, 1.2k is about as high as it got for the One Hand Clapping stream. I was surprised how low the view count was but maybe it was a bit late for burgers.

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Today's numbers.

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>>7265056
Wat source is this?

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>>7265056
Odd that this doesn't have the Mori/IRyS collab

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>>7264714

Kson also keeps hinting that something big is coming soon, but she's not ready to tell us what yet.

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Most Live Viewers

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>>7265440
This one also missing the Mori/IRyS collab despite having streams that started before and after it and since it had ~20k viewers at peak it should easily be on there. Interesting.

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>>7265056
suisei's singing stream?

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>>7265557
What numbers did it get? I went to Playboard to see where it would place on these charts and it isn't showing me the live views.

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>>7265657
funnily enough, mori is not registered as v tuber in playboard.

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>>7265557
>>7265786
Mori is counted as an artist not vtuber on playboard so she won't show up if you filter by vtubers.
Someone really needs to make a vnuma replacement christ

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>>7265786
I know she isn't, that has nothing to do with what I said.
https://playboard.co/en/video/BN3O2ELkwqg
Her other videos show live viewers. This one doesn't. Did it just get reuploaded after being taken down or something?

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>>7265657
20k peak for Calli x Irys collab

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>>7263972
>maybe Cover will eventually merge the JP and EN servers together
This was already announced

>>7263623
>I think a big restriction compared to the past is the lack of live 3D streams as well
Almost every cover PR has a caveat that
>Our company will continue ensuring that strict measures are taken to prevent infection, such as wearing face masks, disinfecting with alcohol, continuing to facilitate remote working, and restricting studio access in order to ensure the safety of our talents, our clients and related personnel, as well as our staff.

Japan AFAIK didn't mandate "remote work when possible" but they surely encouraged it and many companies adhered as
>Miko, Haachama and Marine got COVID in the latest 3D live and will be out of commission for the next 14 days, also all talents and staff in said Live will also be quarintined
would be a nightmare PR to release

[Anonymous No.]

>Irys a week away from catching up to Aki
I genuinely didn't think she had enough "nitro boost" to get momentum sufficient to catch up to HoloJP but assuming she holds 3k/day she is catching up to Aki in a weeks time.

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>>7265951
>Did it just get reuploaded after being taken down or something?
Both playboard and Holostats are having trouble with videos lately, failing to pck some

Search last thread for "playboard" and "holostats", it affected Mori, Choco, Pekora, Irys and Moona, meaning it doesn't have anything to do with a particular streamer or category

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>>7255323
Even though Lain is the most subscribed?

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>>7232974
Ange stronk

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>>7266835
>vnuma dead
>playboard and holostats dying
how do we save numberfagging?

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>>7266912
That's the beauty of it. 4 guys, 1 girl. The girl acts as the view-point character for self-insertion. The even number of guys lets them be paired off with one another but with the girl's presence, no canon ship can be formed due to the overall odd number. It's a masterstroke from Nijisanji.

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>>7266976
Someone needs to make a vnuma replacement ASAP or we are all going to die

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>>7267130
I can't believe Coco killed all numberfagging websites....

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>>7267130
Someone is working on something to compare data between Niji and Hololive ( it's up in this thread) so maybe by next week?

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>>7267095
>self insertion
Fanbase already established her as the little sister

[Anonymous No.]

Leos is managing to keep his viewers. He's literally Kuzuha tier. Holobronies BTFO.

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>>7267912
>Minecraft
Iris literally got 30k playing Minecraft today >>7232974

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>>7267938
Buff from being retarded and joining the JP server + having Mori with her later. Leos is just playing solo. Also, close to 26k now.

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>>7267912
I'm glad the new Nijis are doing well. Numberfagging has been reinvigorated.

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>>7267912
Nice numbers but at what point does "debut buff" become unapplicable? Also, try not to tribalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>Leos is this week's "Ibrahim"
Hopefully people will get wise and stop taking cheap bait
>SPOILER: they won't

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>>7268006
he is 24k flat
Mc doesnt look lik hist thing, he seems low energy

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>>7267912
>First MC
>Not even 30k
Pathetic

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>>7268306
It's not just a solo play, it's a hardcore run so everything is over if he dies even once.

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>>7267912
Don't get too cocky now nijifaggy

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>>7268128
2-3 weeks depending if they dont repeat the same content too much. See lauren apex and lain zatsu.

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>>7268384
Holobrony pls. Irys only got close to that because she joined the JP server and the peak was very short lived, so short playboard didn't even snapshot it. She plummeted like an anchor afterwards.

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>>7267912
>debut not even one month
>keep his viewers
Do nijis really?

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>>7268388
yeah but is not the same as his other streams where he screams and looks like afucking circus master. This is one is prety low.
Also arent hardcore MC buffs?

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>>7268449
Kanae got buffed for his but he seems to have abandoned it.
>>7268418
I feel like 2-3 weeks is too small but sure. Lets see how he does when that passes before people start calling him "the next Kuzuha"

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>>7268466
i think is the perfect timeframe. There isnt that many new streams you can do in thatt imeframe and is the longseries or repeated content that filter the tourist that wont stay.

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>>7268432
Nah you can't trick me. Pretty sure she's reading superchat when it's sliding down.

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>>7268432
I don't think bleeding viewers is surprising when it's stretching on into the wee hours of the morning for the EN fanbase. It's about as valid as pointing at Leos's Makaimura run and shitting on him for "dropping like a rock" just because he couldn't maintain 50k throughout.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzJ6gI87U-4&pp=sAQA
6.4k for Miko playing uma musume? Is something wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

At this point, people coming in here with "Is something wrong?" or "What went wrong?" probably failed math class or are just plain stupid. Get out.

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>>7269014
it just strated. also love there are 10k votes in the poll and 8.6k live viewers.

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>>7269060
How do we save anoms who acknowledge shitposters?

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Small numbers but Youtube just reccommended me this frog for the last 2 days and I noticed a comment that said congrats on 2.8k, a week ago, and now he's at 16.4k. An indie.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCR4HhH-VSMQjySd0qoVh91g/subscribers

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>>7269148
>That growth from 19th
What happened to him?

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>>7269014
>6.4k for Miko playing uma musume?
14k now.

>>7267768
>Someone is working on something to compare data between Niji and Hololive ( it's up in this thread) so maybe by next week?
Holostats failed to pick this Uma Musume Miko stream as well so that surely will speed up my plans, at very least in the independent collection of data.

My goal is to be collecting Live data when the clock ticks 00:00 in Japan in Aug 1st but that's a tall order to fill.

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>>7269196
looks like one of his QA videos got picked by the algorythm. Almost 90k on it
>JP/EN/FR
impressive

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>>7269196
Looks like the algorithm favored him based on comments saying they got shown his channel introduction video in reccommended, it's got a crazy amount of comments (509) where his other vids get 10 or below.
I posted it because I wonder what makes Susan push a channel out of nowhere.

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>>7269211
That's gonna be tight then. Godspeed Anon, we're working in partial darkness with the death of Vnuma, and now YT API is probs fucked in some way wrt picking up streams I guess.
Fucking pajeet coding.

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>>7269014
>19k for Leos playing MC now?
Is something wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>26k votes in Miko stream
>never been over 20k viewers.
every time.

[Anonymous No.]

Lain and Leos reached 200k almost at the same time

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>>7269398
HC MC is a very specific flavor of stream. Either you meme and die in the first 30 minutes or you're probably fine until you venture into the nether. At that point many people aren't going to stick around and watch steady progress unless the streamer is able to keep the audience engaged.

[Anonymous No.]

is alwasy interesting to see the transition inot jp prime. it seems watever stream there was before starts losing views to the new streams once the jp prime starts.

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>>7269415
Here is what the API returns for that video

>{
> "kind": "youtube#videoListResponse",
> "items": [
> {
> "kind": "youtube#video",
> "id": "vzJ6gI87U-4",
> "statistics": {
> "viewCount": "47380",
> "likeCount": "4672",
> "dislikeCount": "103",
> "favoriteCount": "0",
> "commentCount": "0"
> },
> "liveStreamingDetails": {
> "actualStartTime": "2021-07-30T10:01:10Z",
> "scheduledStartTime": "2021-07-30T10:00:00Z",
> "concurrentViewers": "18587",
> }
> }
> ],
> "pageInfo": {
> "totalResults": 1,
> "resultsPerPage": 1
> }
>}

47380 total views so far, but never over 20k concurrent views

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>>7269449
He died and dropped to 16.3 now.

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>>7269398
>Drop to 16k
Oh no no no nijibros?

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>>7269485
is he gonna restart?

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>>7269509
No, end of the stream.

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>>7269497
Next kuzuha yo

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>>7269398
>>7269497
26k > 24k > 20k > 19.5k
He held them better than Irys. Seethe. It's also within normal variance since Pekora has these drops too.

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>>7269665

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>>7269672
That one I can understand, it's over an hour. It's the ones that are up for 5 minutes and over 100% participation vs ccv that drive me insane.

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>>7269665
>>7269691
One stream is shorter. Calm down. And before you call me a Holofag I have never watched a Pekora stream.

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>>7269718
It was actually at 29k votes (43 minutes live) when I joined in, and increased by that amount after 9 minutes.

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>>7269483
Thats 39% of total views. Pretty good retention, less touristy.

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty sad Leos already has himself a falseflagger trying to bait people into shitting on him.

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>>7269758
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fucking YouTube. Even assuming some amount of viewer churn those numbers make no sense. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I need meds.

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>>7269765
The churn for that to work must be absurd, for 31k viewers to have joined and left in the 40 minutes it would have to have some 1000 viewers entering and 1000 different viewers leaving at any given minute, assuming they don't enter and leave immediately.

This plus that "drop" when the stream starts plus what Youtube said about "spam viewers" points out to some AI mystery meat black box determining what is a real viewer and what is a "spam viewer"

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>>7269876
Here they are explaining there are "trigger moments" they cull "spam viewers" and the start of the stream clearly is one of those moments, meaning the waiting room doesn't check for "spam viewers"

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>>7269851
>already
Pretty much from debut. Most likely the same crowd that numberfags with Kuzuha.

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>>7269936
>spam viewers
Who are spam viewers though? The ones who opens the stream with two devices and 1 account?

[Anonymous No.]

>Coco leech only 11k
Not like this holobros...

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>>7269665
>held better than Irys
>both only dipped below 20k after the 2 hour mark
They're about the same.

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>>7269876
Idk where you get 31k but people join in and out. Total view is not ccv. I voted (since its blocking the chat in mobile/tablet) although i only watch partial of the stream like 2mins 13sec at the end

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>>7269995
Please call her by her proper name: Coco's friend

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>>7240270
And to think she's planning a break for at least a week getting her room sound proofed so that she can do it again lol...
I mean it might be fine if she could just draw away from the mic before every shout...

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>>7269982
>we can't share specifics as it may benefit those not playing by the rules
Meaning they don't know and have an AI as good in detecting "spam viewers" as their "lewd bot" is good at detecting pornography

>Mel, Marine, Aki and Choco shows as much as an ankle? BAN!
>Haachama hosts a R18 contest, hosts a gory and lewd horror series and sings a song called "Haaachamadafacker"? CONTENT FOR KIDS

About Haachama, she's not only a prolific numberfag but she also is an expert at experimenting and testing the boundaries of the youtube system.
More than one she figured out what is the EXACT trigger for the lewd bot by trial and error, by altering her lewd thumbs until the bot stops deleting it, or by placing barcodes and jail bars over the lewds.
I think it is one of the things that gives her a thrill, to know how far she can push teh line without getting bonked and it works for her and for her numbers too

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>>7269999
Irys was at 30k before (but playboard didn't snapshot it because it was too short lived), plus she had Mori with her afterwards. Drop was much bigger for her.

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>>7269876
>>7269936
Really gives Nijisanji an advantage to showoff their CCV with JOPs audience.

Whilst Holo with a huge number of EOPs (who's likely the ones using adblock) gets significantly affected. If that dude lost that much, we could only speculate Gura and Coco's highs were beyond than recorded. 200k to 250k, and 550k to 600k respectively.

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>>7270098
But don't Nijis also get affected by this post waiting room culling?

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>>7270098
>Really gives Nijisanji an advantage to showoff their CCV with JOPs audience.
Haha, I don't think so. It hit JP as hard as any other country because it doesn't affect only adblock users but anything the bot deems as "spam-like".
You can't know what but it could be not having the window in focus, not being in the same country as the streamer, having another tab open with another stream or anything else

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>>7270098
Well, yeah, if it was pre December, that would've been the number for Gura's outfit and Coco's grad. I just don't know why would YT block view counts from people using adblock. It ain't relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Aside from that, Pekora is getting 35k live views from a cooking stream.

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>>7270128
Not sure by how much #/%.
When are Nijifags going to replicate holo.poi? make our life easier please

[Anonymous No.]

ah another chumbuds spamview adblock cope again.

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>People thinking Kanata peaking around 12k on Minecraft head to head with Rushia and Flare also on Minecraft, and opposite to Miko and Pekora doing their thing is a bad number
Gotta say that was an weird flex.

Was the intent to highlight how much Kanata inclined and kept the graduation buff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270173
Niji numberfags only care about their twitter bots, their ancient numberfag site doesn't have accurate numbers and 0 graphs, I may as well use playboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270172
>YT block view counts from people using adblock
Isn't that in the realm of speculation?

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>>7270199
Her numbers are fine and not really outside the expected, who are you talking to?

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>>7270212
It is, because we have no fucking clue exactly what is triggering the live view culling. And it's infuriating. This is where having a thousand-comp botnet would be handy, because someone would be able to check what parameters trigger the culling.

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>>7270212
See >>7269876 for the "can't share specifics" response from TeamYoutube.

But that is not a relevant factor, nor is the "spam viewers" because it affects all streamers more or less in the same proportion. I truly doubt there is a difference in behaviour that would make it affect some streamers more than others, from what I gathered everybody poops and everybody gets affected by it

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270273
>because it affects all streamers more or less in the same proportion
I mean we know for a fact that it doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270259
>who are you talking to?
Scroll up some 20 posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270281
>for a fact
Post numbers highlighting said fact and establishing causality.
If you are unable you don't have a fact, only speculation

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara had a members stream recently where she noticed a poll had 25% more votes than her creator dashboard viewer count after just a few minutes.
You'd assume a member stream has very low viewer churn (since everyone is paying to be there) so apparently even verified paying customers are "spam".

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>>7270297
>obvious bait
I thought you said people.

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>>7270311
Discrepancies between EN and JP streams for live viewers/vod numbers immediatly after they ended.
Fuck there are discrepancies between ENs in that regard.
For example Mori's Minecraft Enderdragon VoD had ~30k more views after it ended than Ina's who had a much higher CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270340
I don't remember her saying 25% but, she did say that it was more than "live viewers" on her end after like a minute, and it kept rising until she closed it

[Anonymous No.]

>Moona fell for the "it's OK to overlap" meme
OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THE TOP OF HER HEAD

(she changed it tho, like right now https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1421072640345665541))

[Anonymous No.]

People who focus too much on the spam viewers stuff are chumbud copers. Gura is getting shit viewers by any metric. Ina and Ame get close to her numbers now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270350
>For example Mori's Minecraft Enderdragon VoD had ~30k more views after it ended than Ina's who had a much higher CCV.
Regular churn can explain that, for instance
>lots of people bail when the regular programming ends and superchat starts
>then from that point on people that just entered the stream see SC reading going and bail
That would increase the churn in a stream in relation to, for instance, a stream from a talent that does not do SC reading after.

Proving causality is a bitch because there are lots of confounding variables to be taken in account

[Anonymous No.]

>>7259022
She put up the waiting room way earlier than usual though... Like just a bit after posting her new schedule.
Could that have affected her subs and the algod's favor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270422
At least look at the Holostats for that one.
Mori didn't read SC and her VoD was ~2 minutes longer than Ina's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270379
Anon, one can easily assume that the majority of people in this thread have obscure oshis that are not the biggest hitters and they just like to fap to numbers.
Not everybody is a retard that think comparing numbers is comparing the source of the numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270462
I am not talking specifically about that one anon, just saying that there are lots of factors that could affect churn other than just the YT blackbox acting differently for each streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270379
I'm curious about YT mechanisms, I don't even watch Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>Haachama's late night minecraft is back
Doubt it would cross 15k tho, given that not even Haatons get an advanced notice and she doesn't really make a regular schedule

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270486
We are talking about 6.3k avg and 7.7k peak for Mori against 13.5k avg and 17.3k peak for Ina.
With Mori having 30k more views once the stream ended.
Trying to explain that by "more viewer churn" is not reasonable

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270084
This is just weird nitpicking, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. If the peak was that short-lived then it's irrelevant, she held more than 20k viewers for the same amount of time. If we're going to bring in weird excuses then let's point out that:
1) IRyS was streaming during EN dead hours
2) Leos was streaming during active JP hours
3) Leos was streaming a hardcore run which acts as a buff when you're good at games, which he is
We can go round and round with excuses all day but all the numbers show are that they held roughly the same amount of audience for the same amount of time. End of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270186
>>7270379
You guys are easily triggered by the word "Gura" and immediately goes smashing the keyboard "haha chumbud" to anyone. Don't derail and pay attention to the topic; they are prime variables not biases. We were talking about Miko's metrics in correlation. Fucking braindead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270525
You are again talking about one specific example. I am talking about the general case.

In the specific case of that one pair of streams it might have been the shitty AI blackbox, but that doesn't prove the general case.

[Anonymous No.]

not expecting high numbers for Marine Birthday.
no guests announced and only advertised yesterday.
Expecting like 70-90k, Be surprised if it goes over 100k.

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>>7253115
What made her karaoke so popular is because her voice is popular and she sings tight with decent pitch control. Here it's debuffed by many things: "WTF is bardcore", ye auld ænglisch lyric, "I can't hear your voice!", drunk.
Maybe if she included lyrics on screen it might've faired better since the audience would know what she's singing and can sing along. Making it feel like they're part of the tavern/bar experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270550
my bets are 110k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270550
>no guests announced and only advertised yesterday.
True, but she said in her members stream that there will be 13 guests appearing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270500
I also find the spam viewer filtering really interesting from a technical and business perspective.
It's so obviously shit (filtering paying members from member streams??) and outside of this autistic niche hobby it has a real impact on YouTube themselves - I've seen plenty of articles remarking on how YouTube Gaming's numbers have fallen since December, which is almost entirely attributable to them sabotaging themselves, and that's going to affect stuff like the rates advertisers will pay them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270614
don't lie???!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270637
NTA, but she did say on her regular stream that there would be a lot of guests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270637
That's what she said, but she didn't reveal who.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270550
>not expecting high numbers
>70-90k
Those are high numbers.

>>7270637
I've heard guests too

[Anonymous No.]

>>7269343
Some UI changed last night. *don't jinx it*
I wonder how often they change the codes and mess up the API

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270658
Anon this is the numberthread, why do you expect people with brains?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270154
>>7270128
>>7270173
it doesn't affect everyone the same way, no. It seems that EOPmagnets get cut way more than those with bigger JOP portions.

[Anonymous No.]

>40k from the loading screen
Strong start

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>>7270718
I was in that Haachama stream, she bounced a lot of viewers with heavy mic problems leading to that BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ feedback deafening half the haatons.

She struggled for some 15 min until she got the stream up and running. That one and only that one I can attribute to churn, anons bouncing out and back in until she fixed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270515
If she keeps it up and guerillas a HaaWata from time to time I wonder what'll happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270762
3 minutes in there were no mic problems, just the intro without any interaction, as usual for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270726
Hi Fernando

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>>7270726
Fuck off fernando

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270186
>>7270379
Why are you so obsessed with chumbud? It's like if anything related to Gura just a bit, you immediately think they're chumbud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270781
Flare had to help her deep in the stream. You may be right tho, it may not have been 15 min

[Anonymous No.]

Birthday stream stopped? Seems like Marine will be getting 2 positions in the ranking today

[Anonymous No.]

Okayu's birthday was scuffed as hell and Kanata's was delayed by half an hour and both of those did incredibly well, strangely enough this might end up being a buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>7270978
Audio scuff apparently from YT or Cover. I doubt it's cover since the stream was prerecorded but IDK. They won't let the scuff through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7255399
>another lockdown in Japan
none of the lockdowns have meant shit in Japan, they're not like the lockdowns you see in other asian countries or EU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271039
>>7271022
65k people and nobody is leaving. Weirdly nobody is moving in either. There it goes the "massive intra stream churn" theory, if there was a time for churn that would be now.

[Anonymous No.]

>senchou is still rising in numbers lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271136
This proves the churn theory, people leaving=people entering, which is why the numbers are barely moving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271252
Wouldn't it be a massive coincidence if the people leaving a stream that is stopped and the people joining and remaining in a stream that is stopped balances themselves so perfectly in a way the number barely moves?

[Anonymous No.]

From Marine
>録画ファイルが壊れたらしいです!枠が変わってまた最初からやり直しになる可能性が高いです!すみません

Seems like she'll be getting two birthday streams

[Anonymous No.]

Embarrassing. Even with her secret ultimate move, the unarchived karaoke, she still can't match The Pecker

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271353
I blame the insider niji spy at Cover for sabotaging the 3D

[Anonymous No.]

59k "watching" a thumbnail that hasn't moved for 20 minutes and is going to a new frame

[Anonymous No.]

>It looks like they're going to take the frame back and play it again from the first song! What?
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1421084002241323015
there you go, she just restarted

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271537
It restarted, if there is a HUGE jump in the first minute or so the theory of "users tabbed off" may be proved conclusively

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271642
>70k
yep

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271642
pretty big jump, looks like tabbed out viewers arent counted.

[Anonymous No.]

>57k
>jumped inmediately to 65k
i dont get how youtube works
were the view in the queue asleep or someting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271642
Tab theory is correct, I saw 57k before and when the music starts up, it literally jumped to 70k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271642
agreed

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271672
>>7271681
>>7271701
>>7271684
Yeah, that proves it and disproves the
>users on mobile switching from one stream to the other
on multiPOV Minecraft streams where the same jump in one streamer is met by a slump in another streamer when teh POV of the inclining one has the interesting thing going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271759
That's not actually what proof means, it's evidence though

[Anonymous No.]

82k on the first song, yeah the scuff actually helped the numbers and this is probably breaking 100k (if it actually works this time)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271759
how does it disprove it? if they have multiple povs open, only the one tabbed in is counted for live

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271780
SEA ESL please understand...

[Anonymous No.]

Now I wonder if Picture in picture screen views are counted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271701
I don't know, it's also kind of hard to believe that so many people didn't tab out.

[Anonymous No.]

>88k
She put her in the ground, it's over. The recline is real.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus that all nip chat holoen has more kr fans than nijikr.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271894
It's probably a factor in their AI blackbox

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271801
>if they have multiple povs open, only the one tabbed in is counted for live
That's what the peak proves or (as >>7271780 pedantically puts), provides a very strong evidence for.

What it provides evidence against is the alternate theory some anons put forward, that the corresponding slump in some multiPOV streams like Minecraft were a result not of users tabbed off not counting, but a result of mobile viewers closing the stream and opening the other.
.

Some anons posted a theory

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271642
Yea, this is some very strong evidence, and it makes some amount of sense for YouTube to combat 'viewfarmers' attempting to watch multiple streams at once if they're trying to get a more 'accurate' ccv for advertisers to use.
And we're also past 90k and it's only the 2nd song kek. Looks like the scuff was a blessing in disguise, letting people know the stream was on, a free form of advertising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271913
That sounds like an extremely convoluted and nonsensical way to compute the number of viewers to display, you might just be on to something.

[Anonymous No.]

for reference, multiple povs only counting once proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271894
Some probably had waited for the stream to open again. I was changing tabs between global and the stream. Another evidence that supports this is the outfit reveal that peaks during the actual reveal, and declines after they had shown their outfit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271039
Stream was prerecorded and fine when they checked it right after recording, but apparently the file was corrupted sometime between then and now. Simplest explanation is probably that they transferred the file into some other storage disk and didn't check it again before playing it for the real occasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271894
>it's also kind of hard to believe that so many people didn't tab out.
Mobile device watchers, that Youtube discloses as being the majority of present day watchers, can't "tab out", they just leave the stream running

[Anonymous No.]

>>7271891
Like browser generated or youtube generated? (one where you press I on the computer)
Also, how about premium users on mobile?

[Anonymous No.]

why is marine getting so many buffs? is yagoo trying to make her the face of hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272019
Big numbers attract big numbers. Its called momentum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272019
She arguably is right now. Aqua went too hard on the idol side, so she doesn't game much. Pekora went all-in on games.

Marine is the most popular holo that provides a balanced package - she can sing, be bad at horror games, zatsudan, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

will it break 100k??

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272008
Mobile YouTube has both picture in picture and background audio-only playback (if you pay for it) that are basically equivalent to tabbing out. Who knows if that affects anything though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272019
It's cyclical. A few Holos blow up then eventually recede and more come to take their place, right now it's a Marines turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272080
She can also do networking inside holo and organize collabs, a fatal weakness of both Peko and Aqua.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272080
Pretty much this. She was already being groomed to be the next Fubuki since last year, participating in a lot of the external events that Fubuki used to do and having a radio show together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272084
is fucking guaranteed
my bet is 120k peak

[Anonymous No.]

Another 100k. Five 100k+ from hololive this month, three from Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272100
Premium users are always counted as far as I remember.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272084
No. Luna is a number killer. 99.6k is the limit. Marine fell short of 100k lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272180
And she's supposed to be on a break. She isn't even at her full power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272191
nigger

[Anonymous No.]

Just passed 100k, 100301.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272191
Didn't Coco's numbers dip too when Luna was onscreen? Obviously it climbed after that but the power of this baby to filter people is incalculable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272208
Marine singlehandedly saving Hololive from getting mogged by Koshien buff

[Anonymous No.]

>100k
not even baby hime could stop her

[Anonymous No.]

Does Marine have the most 100K+? Total 4

[Anonymous No.]

marine slept with yagoo

[Anonymous No.]

>A leech clipper has more people waiting than nijien
https://youtu.be/awFARsTH55s

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272152
>>7272132
I'd say the only one who can compete is Miko. And Nene could get there, in time. But both of them are a bit more niche in their appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the first ever birthday stream to hit 100k right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272191
KNEEL BITCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272309
From some anon yesterday

>Hololive Top 10 highest concurrent live views (holostats)
>21/07/01 491,342 Coco Graduation stream
>21/05/07 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
>20/10/21 145,305 Miko 3D Return stream
>20/10/21 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
>21/07/03 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive
>20/10/18 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
>21/07/29 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
>21/05/03 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
>20/12/13 128,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
>21/05/27 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal

>20/12/31 123,926 Hololive NYE stream
>20/11/13 119,493 Gura 2nd karaoke stream
>20/08/14 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
>21/01/31 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
>20/11/08 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
>21/05/02 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
>20/07/05 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
>20/06/27 108,689 Coco 3D debut
>21/07/18 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
>21/06/23 107,020 Coco costume reveal
>20/07/12 105,716 Watame 3D debut
>20/08/12 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
>21/05/07 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
>20/11/15 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
>21/05/09 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

With this one Marine is getting her 4th and untying Coco for 1st place

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272414
Legit funny that someone members and donates a $100 to a clipper of all things

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272316
this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIRcUI-arkY

[Anonymous No.]

surprised it went this high, Marine and Pekora are the face of Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

Actual numbers, Kiara's Goodbye Sengen has hit 2 million after 1 month, 7 days and ~5 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>7232974
kek shit shark can't even get 1/3 of Marine viewers with her strongest weapon

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272750
Sparks near 1M as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272637
It's more that there's a lot of faces in Hololive. Individual gen 2 members aside from Coco could bring 90k to a 3D concert. Fubuki and Haato could pull in similar crowds. Gen 4 and Gen 5 isn't there yet, but will be. 3D Gura and Mori would be raining money though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272827
more like raining dead subs

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITKXquDMZ9w
Oh you shameless shameless fucking bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272414
Going to break nijien debut numbers wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272825
That's still a bit away

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272414
Fucking kek the voice

[Anonymous No.]

Wait what the fuck? I thought ichimi were holding on the outfit reveal to splurge today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272904
Nothing wrong with celebrating milestones. It's the standard in the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272947
yeah it isn't until you look at her previous stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272945
They will splurge on the merch

[Anonymous No.]

REFLECT passed 7.5M , last 1/4 to 10M

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272965
Nothing wrong with celebrating monetization. It's the standard in the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>topped out at 113k
Lolo, my prediction of it not even being 115k was right.

Lami is more numbers poison than Luna.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck loans superchats is insane and I see a lot of jo hololive fans who also follow nijiboys tuning into her as well is this the actual unity and perfect balance.

I expected schitzos but anycolor struck gold with this group

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273002
I don't know. She just comes off as someone who would leech from Marine's fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273003
Usually I would protest but the numbers are at your side here. They bot deflated the numbers for a minute there

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273129
They both

[Anonymous No.]

>>7272904
need to milk while you're on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273003
it just hit 115k

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/awFARsTH55s
>12k
>a fucking clipnigger getting more debut views than nijiEN
D

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273125
Retarded EOPs think that kimitachi is exclusive, as expected of holobronies.

That’s like saying the word “you” is copyrighted

[Anonymous No.]

> predictions for Ahoy
Who will she pick for the song and what will the number be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273129
Add Flare to the club by that logic, she had pretty much an identical effect to Lamy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
i am not clicking this

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
>Look at livechat
>Full of numberfaggers
Well...

[Anonymous No.]

120k is possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273422
Only if pecor comes in

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
>a clip nigger who monitized holoclips and leeching now has higher viewers than low tier holos and nijis.

It’s not fucking fair bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
Theres no point joining a company when you can just leech hololive like that clipnigger doing and uto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273338
Nah, I retract that, I just checked the clock, it started flattening when it hit :00.
it is more likely than not many carriages are turning into pumpkins (salarymen having to leave the office to catch the last train)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273301
That's 13 guests now, so Ahoy will be solo.

[Anonymous No.]

>Towa and Okayu deep voices
Not numbers but I can fap to that too

[Anonymous No.]

I will kill myself if she gets more than 125k. Not like this. Numbers don't make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
jesas holosphere is strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
>>7273609
He's going head to head with Marine too haha.

[Anonymous No.]

And there we have it, 120k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273594
121k, strong incline for Ahoy

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273451
no pecor, 120k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273759
ytbot didn't like marine's 2k jump and cut 1k lol, now going back up

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273422
It was the Towa buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273669
>He
wait is this a guy?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a special event by the way? If so, The scuff was a blessing in disguise. They really want Marine's viewers after she finishes her stream. What a dirty move. Drag it more please Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been alligator arming every big event for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273460
Behold the power of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273853
Wait it isn't? I thought it was a guy that hired a VA to be the voice of his clip channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273864
This is the free portion of their concert

[Anonymous No.]

There still 10 mins left, so we might get 1 more song, unless she starts shilling merch/giving her big announcement. Marine going from 120k to 123k after all her guests are done is quite impressive actually. People usually bail when it's the solo ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273864
>>7273955
Bahaha, that scuff threw a lot of schedules off.

[Anonymous No.]

It didn't hit 125k. I won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273864
It's a highlight reel of previous concerts to hype up tomorrow's concert. I think they only announced it like this afternoon, I barely know about it.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273594
>124,596

So close....

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273973
Ahoy is just that good as her character song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274043
damn she almost killed that anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273594
saved by a few hundrets

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274013
Anon's life was saved by the length of Ahoy. One more stance and he would be a gonner

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273288
Can into 20K from Marine Exodus?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else thinking Marine is reclining? She did better earlier this month. She had 11k less viewers than yesterday and it was a birthday live.

[Anonymous No.]

>nijien absolutely mogged
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

Her merch is so good. Nendo. Clothes and cap and a pre-built pc. Damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273853
yes it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274082
IMO thirty years down the road when Holochicks are as nostalgic as (looks at the calendar) Nirvana?!, well, people will look back to SSS and Ahoy as the anthems of this Hololive generation

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273932
>Wait it isn't?
I have no idea. I didn't know this clip channel before but opened it for to see what it was and heard a female's voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274232
I just wanna buy the case, wtf. I don't want a prebuilt pc. REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274253
SSS already feels like the anthem of a bygone era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274073
Just round up like Vnuma would do

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274286
Bloke (or blokette) has at least one high profile SIMP
>Ollie what are you doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274321
Which makes it more powerful because of nostalgia.
The last time SSS was the theme song of holo was when Gen 5 sang it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7273864
It's a premiere for highlights from their 2020 concerts I believe? Not expected to get crazy number of viewers anyways. Then again, Marine's 3D live today was also pre-recorded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274073
107k tweets. Lots of nip. They love twatter

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274391
Gen 4 damn it not gen 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274342
130k?!!!!?!!?!

[Anonymous No.]

Some premiere from Marine starting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4B6ydELWQY

Seems like she will keep holding the dam and preventing the majority of her audience to move to other streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274191
17k now Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>you can now redirect people at the end of the stream to another stream
NOW THIS WILL GIVE NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274501
Its because of this, pretty shitty tactic if you ask me
>>7274057

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274501
Someone should kneecap that faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274535
>s**zawa
yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274519
relay streams are now guarated boosters

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274191
>>7274501
https://twitter.com/rizulix/status/1421093827763478532
It's morons getting tricked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274519
>>7274582
Isn't it "Youtube's mystery meat" pointing the crowds to the next stream based on suggestion algorithm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274519
>>7274582
Is this similar to twitch's raid feature?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274622
Lmfao holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274622
I knew it lmao. Clipnigger drama now

[Anonymous No.]

Moona is underrated as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEJMohCha44

Easily the best non pro singer of all Hololive (meaning only AZKI, IRyS, Sora and Suisei beat her)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274630
It moved me to FBK's watchalong kek

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji really needs to learn how to funnel their viewers properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274622
Of fucking course, use the same strat cover is using to capture simps because of “omg girl”

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274784
It's a knife fight out there, Moona doubled her audience right after the end of both the live and the premiere

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274754
People know. Her karaoke gets great numbers for holoID

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274803
They do funnel but not as much as hololive since people see hololive more as a group than nijisanji which is more like a network

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274535
It's a clipper channel, that's what it's supposed to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274854
Yeah and today may be her big break with the algo pushing people into her right when she was singing some bangers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274754
This isn't numbers. I am not clicking this. That would be creating numbers and not discussing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274754
Moona's great but this is a numbers thread. Very good numbers for an ID tho, I think Moona gets better karaoke numbers than most NijiJPs when they do karaokes, which is ridiculous for an ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274803
Anon... Koshien is literally all about funnelling viewers wtf. How do you think they got 135k for a draft stream?

[Anonymous No.]

For a while, I have been wondering if it would be feasible to illustrate live views using candlestick graphs to show the relative movement of users in a more "readable" manner. Pic related for the uninitiated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274961
Moona could seriously be a VSinger, but as always, overseas copyrighted songs is much more stricter to do covers than Japanese songs.

[Anonymous No.]

With the caveat that this number could still go up because Playboard does that sometimes...
This is lower than Choco got for her birthday and barely above Roboco. It's the second lowest superchats for a Hololive birthday this year and only just above Astel who got the most of the Homos for his birthday. What the fuck happened? Marine is the 4th most superchatted channel in the world and she got $53k in total a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275018
Nah youtube has multiple servers so the numbers are not that accurate see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY_2gElt3SA

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274961
Her karaokes really took off after PekoMoona created attention for her, people tuned in to see her side of Minecraft, and she started singing casually while streaming. An excellent example of capturing a new audience when given the chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275082
Two special days in a row and announcement of expensive merch like nendo and a pre built pc

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274622
Holosphere's Zentreya

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275085
Meanwhile Risu…

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275082
Anon Holo's get good SC every stream, It's not like Niji where people just lash everything at events.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hololive clipper debut
>Beat NijiEN debut numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275085
Not really, what made her took off was getting a karaoke machine so she wouldn't have to sing acapella anymore. That was when her karaokes went from 2-3k to the 7-9k we see today.

>>7275082
Ichimis saw all the kino merch and decided to buy that instead I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275082
Just look at her merch and you'd think I'd spent money to get my message read? Plus, there's literally 3 marine big events this month, not to mention, her anniversary on the 11th. 10k for a stream is good enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275155
I don't know which one is worse, silently hiring a female to voice or using TTS

[Anonymous No.]

>Shion returns tomorrow
Hololive productions surely is mobilizing the reserves to ensure a continuous push

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275155
But she's talking right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275266
Prediction for her graduation numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274622
"As for evidence that he is a guy, sorry I don't have any proof since I have never recorded any of our conversations or anything along those lines."

So "Source: my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275082
Events piling depletes the amount of money that fans can spend

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275223
180 dollaridoos a piece and the limited merch went out of stock barely out of the stream.

I can only imagine how many the produced, even a mere 1000 would be 180,000 USD right then and there

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275411
It was limited because it had a handwritten note. No way Marine wrote 1000 notes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275411
Too bad we will never know sales figures. The only thing that you can very very loosely base it on is hearts on booth.

[Anonymous No.]

really surprised how unpopular Axia is, Thought he would be a heavy hitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275482
That is like estimating viewcount from youtube likes.
Only even more retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275505
Same, it looks like Lauren will be the more popular one of the duo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275505
Isn't he part of the APEX duo? I guess they might be better served by pairing up all the time, at least for now, and getting their duo dynamics down pat while streaming APEX.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275457
>No way Marine wrote 1000 notes.
Yeah, that's reasonable. Some idols (and even cosplay thots) do it tho, sometimes they sign and kiss thousands of envelopes.

I agree that it is unlikely in Marine's case

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275457
Some of those were handwritten notes, the others would include a printed copy of the notes. So it's an SSR chance to get the real marine's handwritten note.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275149
>>7275215
>>7275223
>>7275400
I'm sure the merch doesn't help but everyone gets merch for their birthday and still manages to get good superchats. As for the costume yesterday that only got 9k and most of the time there's a countdown stream that gets far more than that. I'm not saying it's a disaster or she's finished or anything like that it's just an abnormally low figure for one of the top earners on a birthday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275457
>No way Marine wrote 1000 notes.
Nenechis birthday goods also had handsignet art, in one of her comunity posts she mentioned finishing 500 that day and still not being done

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274920
that's on their monetized freetalk debut though, nothing to do with hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275605
You sure about that? I thought she said that limited version had a handwritten note and normal version has a copy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275561
yes but he's the better designed one imo and I thought all the fujos would be all over him but not the case so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275505
Is he the one that said he doesn’t play with noobs or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275505
He got 12k earlier so he's not doing that bad. Getting mogged by Lauren rn tho eventho they're streaming together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275605
I'm pretty sure she said the limited version has handwritten notes while the other option had copies.
>>7275608
You have to also remember that there's a limited amount of money to go around among the Hololive fandom in total in a given month.
And July was fucking stacked starting with Coco's graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275640
Signing is way less work than writing an entire note

[Anonymous No.]

in other news, Kanae's apex numbers really took a dive after Axia and Lauren came in

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275711
August is going to be more stacked than July if you don't factor in Coco's graduation, especially merch-wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275737
Didn't he get 15k playing Apex just last night? He's doing fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275658
>>7275711
I'm wrong I guess. I only remembered handwritten and copies from a translator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275198
Wrong, holos get good SC every stream AND people still go nuts at events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275711
There's been 7 streams in Hololive over $30k since Coco's graduation, I really don't think that's affecting other stream's superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275266
I give it 35k, give or take 5k.

[Anonymous No.]

I miss that call and response so much

[Anonymous No.]

Second batch of limited edition is sold on geekjacket the day after.
Surprised no one mentioned it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7276107
Higher, especially since there'll definitely be some announcements like goods/collaborations or something that dragged her out or hiatus.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, this was a good thread while it lasted. People got smart enough to not reply to shitposters

[Anonymous No.]

Someone make the next thread I can't do it right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>7275082
Didn't she said she's not reading superchats for a while? Maybe people hold out for when her voice comes back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274099
>>7274128
So 3D live premiere that was streamed for some reason got less viewers than new 2D costume? lol

[Anonymous No.]

13 streams having 10k+ peak viewers from holo today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7276984
Big event streams are amazing for hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>7276984
One is a promotion stream as well. Those rarely get 10k+ viewerships. Today is a good day for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277042
It has more to do with pego and migo having streamed twice each and a lot of holos who normally get 10k+ streaming today.

[Anonymous No.]

Predictions for Haachama Minecraft? I'm really at a loss, Haachama is as unpredictable as her persona seems to imply.

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers prediction on haachama stream? prediction if its on EN server?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7274754
Not even the best holoID singer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277394
Risu doesn't sing so she doesn't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277282
>>7277301
10-15K. I've tuned into her streams multiple times. It's a chill comfy minecraft stream something like Watame without the constant talking as she continues building her tower of babel.

[Anonymous No.]

Mio was really fucking bold with this endurance singing stream. After 90 minutes she still needs 6k subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277720
Kanata and Watame made it look easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277788
One million is a lot more attractive than 800k I guess. High viewer count for Mio though, even with all the other streams going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277914
Also 6k vs 9k, Kanata had a much smaller gap to close, and people like to wait until it gets closer, snowball effect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7277788
Mio just hasn't been the same every since capcom kneecaped her and forced her to suck their dicks

[Anonymous No.]

Tough time slot

[Anonymous No.]

>>7278173
And that's another two streams that broke 10k