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How are your reps going /vt/?

>> No.72325769

>>72325498
Gura deflection thread

>> No.72325918

>>72325498
Like a woman in her mid 30s I have hit the wall

>> No.72325975

>>72325498
>cure dolly
I thought this board was filled with too many newfags... Nature is healing

>> No.72326154

>>72325498
why would i want to learn Japanese now that we have AI? i found an open source ocr in hugging face, downloaded it and made a fork that connects with the free deepl api, i can finally read all the fucking porn i want, doujins, mmd videos with subtitles and shit.
The last step is to make it automatically read my screen, but i don't have the time rn.

>> No.72326162

>>72325498
I hate myself for procrastinating and wish I had started a long time ago.

>> No.72326212

>>72325498

Based Cure Dolly. This shit helped me so much in my learning journey. Watched every single one.

>> No.72326267

>>72325498
I miss her, I hope she's smiling from heaven

>> No.72326305

>>72326154
You're still stuck with significant error.

>> No.72326413

>>72326154
Japanese is a very context based language it will take some more years to be usable (and I'm not even talking about voice-to-text AI). I've seen people using the AI cope since 2019 and these retards are still waiting for it while repschads are doing good.

>> No.72326595

>>72326267
She's still alive. She just faked her death.

>> No.72326687

>>72326413
i did my tests with some vns and doujins (fan translated), the ocr + api combo wasn't perfect compared to them at first, but then I realized this thing you're saying about the context, the app worked better after i started sending the data formatted as conversations instead of snippets of dialogue and sentences, and it improved a lot, i'd say it's like 80% to 95% accurate depending on how much data i send per request (the more accurate, the slower it replies).

>> No.72326828

>>72326154
Some people want to consume Japanese media untranslated, and they may also want to actually speak Japanese with Japanese people.

>> No.72326857

>>72326595
Why would she do that?

>> No.72326897
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72326897

been doing this shit at 6 words/day (yea it's not much but I'm getting gigggga fucked at work rn) and trying to read girls' last tour/frieren manga in JP so hopefully it'll amount to some increase in comprehension

>> No.72326925

>>72326897
What deck, core 2k?

>> No.72326974

>>72325498
I've been reading Dragon Ball. After just 8 volumes I feel like I've made a ton of progress.

>> No.72327062

>>72326857
id probably because of the cult shit

>> No.72327135

>>72326925
joined the moeway discord and they recommended the kaishi 1.5k so I've been doing that. I guess I'll start making my own deck once I finish it, should not take an insane amount of time hopefully since I'll up the wordcount to like 20/day after I'm done with my 9999 hours of overtime at work

>> No.72327149

>>72326974
Based
I also read Dragon Ball when I started my reps, it's pretty simple to read since it doesn't use a lot of complex vocab

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72327198

>>72325498
erry day

>> No.72327257

>>72325498
I have not missed a single day of reps for years. I finished Core10K, but can barely read or speak at all because I never study grammar, rarely consume raw Japanese, and never talk to anyone. It sucks, but it's kinda funny in a way.

>> No.72327272

>>72325498
I refuse to learn Japanese because the girls have become whores there too. All the people that used to tell me to watch JP girls because it will never happen have gone silent too.

>> No.72327375

>>72327272
The only solution is to become such a gigantic whore yourself that you scare them straight.

>> No.72327411

>>72327135
Right I think that's the new one they made. Btw if you're not already using it, you should set up Mokuro. It scans manga pages and creates a HTML file that lets you select the text in the manga. Makes reading manga a lot easier as a beginner.

>> No.72327617

>>72327257
Is that what /djt/ calls an anki drone?

>> No.72327713

>>72326413
It'll also take years to get to a level where you're able to translate more accurately and with comparable speed to MTL. You'll be able to avoid some of the common errors more quickly but you won't have the vocab or grammar overall. And of course, that's a ton of hard work, whereas with MTL you just have to sit on your ass and wait.
I don't really see the reason to do your reps unless you're planning on emigrating to Japan. Anime and manga are usually translated, and for those that aren't we'll probably have capable MTL within the decade. If you want to live and work in Japan you'll need to the conversation skills but simply consuming Japanese media as an EOP is extremely easy whereas learning Japanese is extremely hard, and those years of time and effort could be expended on something more enjoyable and/or marketable.
That said, if you just love learning foreign languages, go ahead.

>> No.72327716

>>72325498
bery bery いい

>> No.72327777

>>72327272
Can't you pick up some easy plump girls and gaijin hunters for a one night stand if you speak good Japanese though?

>> No.72328122

>>72327411
oh nice no I wasn't using it before
I was just OCRing and then CTRLF every unknown noun into jisho and every unknown grammar into dojg
thanks

>> No.72328400

>>72325498
I have never done reps. I simply consume enough slopanime until I can follow streams.
I literally cannot read a single japanese chatacter except 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

>> No.72328631

>>72328400
Unironically try learning a bit characters and grammar it will make your progress rocket and in a few weeks/months you will be able to understand pretty much everything

>> No.72328793

>>72328631
Meanwhile, back in the real world, I know people who've gone to Japan study Japanese for a year or more, passed the N1, and still don't understand Japanese for shit, let alone speak it.

>> No.72328821

>>72325498
RIP Cure Dolly
Your voice was fucking annoying, your model was weird
But damn were your lessons quality

>> No.72329319

>>72328793
Learning grammar and writing is only a small part of the learning, most of it is immersion but that doesn't mean actual learning is not important though

>> No.72329397

>>72328631
I plan to. I'm so done with MTL ruining my enjoyment of thin books.

>> No.72329642

>>72329319
Of course, but "you can understand almost everything in weeks or months by studying kanji and grammar" is a joke, the reality is most JSLs devote years to learning and end up with kindergarten-level Japanese skills.

>> No.72329801

>>72329642
That's a bit of an exaggeration, with the right method you won't be at a kindergarten-level after years of study. It does take years to get fluent though, yes.

>> No.72329837

>>72325975
cure dolly is shilled by themoeway, every newfag knows her

>> No.72329953

CureDolly is a vtuber so this isn’t offtopic, tranny jannies

>> No.72330035

>>72329642
I literally just want to understand what my oshi is saying

>> No.72330365

>>72327713
>use AI translator to translate japanese eroge
>use MTL to get the missing context clues/nuances
>manually correct the AI with the MTL clues
>2000 dollars a month for my high quality translation, coomerchama
???

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72330976

>>72325498
This is all of just kanji. I got mega depressed and stopped learning for a few months but started back up in January

>> No.72331180

>>72327777
yeah. even with broken jp it was easy. literally had a random bro wingman for me

>> No.72331291

>>72329642
what are you on. i studied for about a year and can watch jp streams fine. went to japan and had conversations with people. just dont be defeatist its not hard

>> No.72331402

new learner here. i’ve been doing genki I+II and the anki core 2k. is this fine and are there any other things i should be doing

>> No.72331556

>>72331402
Anki is a meme. Learn grammar and immerse yourself.

>> No.72332159

>>72331291
What does "fine" mean? Being able to understand simple phrases and occasional full sentences? If you're actually able to understand the most of what they're saying you've massively outperformed the majority of learners, top 0.1-0.01%. Most English speakers take at minimum a year of full-time study to even be able to pass the N1, and lots of people with an N1 are absolutely useless at Japanese.
If you studied when you were very young, i.e. too young to post here, that goes out the window, you can definitely learn Japanese relatively quickly if you still have the neuroplasticity for it.

>> No.72332238

>>72331291
Yeah I don't know what he's talking about, you can find examples online of people who catalogued their experience learning Japanese from scratch, and most get fluent in reading and listening after like 3-4 years. Here's one guy, he lives in Japan now.
>https://youtube.com/@Livakivi

>> No.72332359

>>72332159
>english speakers
there’s your problem
english is fucking retarded
anyone who's first language is relatively phonetic (most slavic languages, indonesian etc) can learn japanese just fine

>> No.72332550

>>72332359
I don't think it has anything to do with being phonetic. That's a non-issue. But people who speak languages that are more similar to Japanese are definitely able to learn it much faster, if you're Chinese for example you can actually be competent in Japanese in a year.

>> No.72332712

>>72332359
what the fuck are you on about? slavic languages and japanese have nothing in common

>> No.72332790

>>72332712
consistent pronunciation

>> No.72332810

>>72331180
Maybe I should try this next time I'm there. I've only done soaplands so far but honestly shit's not worth the money. I'd rather just take some tinder whore equivalent. You just go to a random bar?

>> No.72332866

>>72332790
and you think that helps you learn japanese? are you retarded?

>> No.72333554

>>72332790
The lack of phonetic spelling makes it hard to speak English if you learned it purely from written text, (this is also a problem with Japanese, because it does things like sometimes omitting vowels e.g. す + a 'k' sound, following a certain rhythm and having word meaning change according to stress, though they follow mostly consistent rules whereas English does not). But having a first language that uses phonetic spelling does not make it any easier to learn Japanese.

>> No.72334530

>>72325498
I was already pretty good at reading, but my listening comprehension has gone up. I still get tripped up by some slang and grammar, but steady progress.

>> No.72335201

>>72325498
Going good. I just started about 3 weeks ago. Started with Cure Dolly but didn't care for the vids so I'm learning grammar through Japanese the Manga Way and Tae Kim. Really struggling finding time for immersion, but most of the time I use Okayu's Minecraft streams as they're very fun to watch. I have about 200 vocab words now and plan to read either Yotsubato or Dragon Ball. Also really want to read Slam Dunk in JP but I don't know if I should learn more words before I start practicing reading.

>> No.72335238

>>72332866
you retards keep asking how to read Japanese and fucking it up anyway because you're used to your retarded English language which makes no fucking sense phonetically
meanwhile Slavs don't have to think about that all because it's simply natural that words are read as they're written to us
it absolutely helps with learning the language and makes it easier to not butcher it

>>72333554
Exceptions in Japanese are much rarer and quite consistent.
Having phonetic mother tongue does help. Read up on studies. English natives have harder time learning JP because of how different the languages are. Or look around the net, there's plenty of ruskies who are surprisingly competent at nip, especially in VN scene.

>> No.72335297

>>72335238
you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

>> No.72335344

>>72335201
learnjapanese.moe
animecards.site
manga is a bit problematic because of harder look up of words but if you prefer it, go with it, it's most important to enjoy the process to make sure you stick with it

>> No.72335385

>>72335297
retard

>> No.72335429

N5. Could survive in Tokyo alone. Truth be told, I don't know where the border crossing into N4 is.

>> No.72335442

>>72335344
>manga is a bit problematic because of harder look up of words
use OCR and yomi

>> No.72335658

>>72326154
I wasn't planning on it, but I ended up landing a Japanese gf because I could speak the language. Not worth it just for that, but it's a bonus
>>72335201
You're going to need a lot more words to be able to read anything, but that's just how it is in the beginning. You'll be looking up multiple words a page for a long time, but it'll get better eventually.

>> No.72336788

>>72335442
what OCR do you use? kanjitomo sucks

>> No.72336941

>>72336788
mokuro

>> No.72338245

>>72325498
There's a new Japanese teacher on the block
https://www.youtube.com/@IsekaiJapanese/featured

>> No.72341248

>>72325498
bad

>> No.72342393

>>72325498
Aww, now you made me sad...

>> No.72342593

>>72327257
Same position, but I studied grammar too. I don't have any interest in consooming Japanese media, so my listening comprehension has been ass for years outside of Japanese grammar videos.

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I haven't progressed in over 2 years. I've cleared the N4 and Core Deck but I was way more motivated in the early days, even though rewatching the Cure Dolly vids make more sense now than it did back then

I've learned just enough to read simple raw doujins on nhentai

>> No.72345350

>>72325498
Part 3 coming out soon (hopefully), can't slack.

>> No.72345448

RIP

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>>72325498
Thank you for everything, sensei... I'm still doing my best, for you...

>> No.72346221

>>72335658
>You're going to need a lot more words to be able to read anything, but that's just how it is in the beginning.
That's what I thought. I can't wait though. It's going to be so fun rereading Dragon Ball again.

>> No.72347286

>>72342593
What are you doing here?

>> No.72349696

>>72326687
That's kind of clever, but it sounds tedious if I understood correctly. Do you have to manually input the ocr'd text lines one by one? Is that what you meant by the last step in >>72326154?

>> No.72351841

I'm crying

>> No.72352134

>>72325498
Isn't she dead
btw I bought her little book about Japanese and it was kinda crap

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