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Member when she used to be somewhat relevant?

>> No.7229450

Literally who

>> No.7229484

>>7229347
people are more interested when her dad joins than when she's alone
lol

>> No.7229490
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>>7229450
Someone that could pull these numbers solo but decided to self sabotage and become irrelevant

>> No.7229542

>>7229490
What did she do?

>> No.7229554

>>7229490
Lemme guess, those tweets where she shitted on her fans did a number on her popularity?

>> No.7229558

>>7229490
That stream got big because Mick Gordon was in the chat.
Hana also had a dedicated clipper back then which affected her numbers

>> No.7229559

Literally who?

>> No.7229611

>>7229347
Hana was right!

>> No.7229625

>>7229347
She should start leeching off Niji EN.

>> No.7229640

>>7229347
I mean she still relevant but her kawaii personality is toned down because she wants to be like vinny vinesauce

>> No.7229650

>>7229611
She may have been right, but also a dumb bitch for saying it. Who'd have thought shitting on her target demographic would cause her popularity to die down?

>> No.7229662

>>7229542
among several other things, told her fans that liking vtubers is the same as liking ethots

>> No.7229721

>>7229347
She got a lot of attention because she was like Pikamee: an EOP bridge to the chuuba world. She failed to leverage that after HoloEN took off.

>> No.7229731

>>7229347
Yes it was when her dad carried the streams for her.

>> No.7229738

>>7229347
>ID
>niji oversaturated members
I wonder why

>> No.7229849

The tragedy of Hana Macchia reminds all of us:
Entertainers should focus on their job which is to entertain the audience. If they decide to do something else that's stupid and the majority of their audience do not like. Eventually, people will just leave them to find better entertainment.
It's truly a waste and a tragic to see how she going such down hill.

>> No.7229853

>>7229738
No one watches any of the other IDs anyway. Holo ID and Holo EN basically destroyed any chance of her being relevant.

>> No.7230015

>>7229650
She was also shitting on clipniggers. She doesn't care about popularity as much as you think.

>> No.7230121

>>7229662
that's pretty based desu

>> No.7230187

>>7229542
She get's mad when people ask her to do thing, whish is the reason she stopped playing doom and having her dad on stream. Plus, she's a contrarian that avoids playing games when their popular.
She also hates herself

>> No.7230194

>>7229347
>>7229849
Hana is the epitome of Get Woke, Go Broke.

>> No.7230213

>>7230015
>She doesn't care about popularity as much as you think
It's of no difference to me. Her views and earnings will keep dropping and she'll only have herself to blame. Odd direction to take in a field like this but it's her prerogative

>> No.7230222

>>7229554
She didn't shit on her fans in general, and no not really.
It's more that she got popular as one of the big EN vtubers and then doubled down on being ID and doing more ID only streams for a while. Also stopped doing boomer shooters or having her dad on, which got her popular in the first place, and just in general didn't play into memes.
That said, knowing her that was probably intentional because big numbers scary, and she stopped when HoloEN took the attention (and some of her her clippers) away.
Now she gets numbers that are less intimidating and at worst has to tell people "Don't call me NijiEN Gen 0" while working with people she likes. She's better off as she is, if you can see things other than "bigger number is more better".

>> No.7230255

>>7229662
She might be right on certain type of Vtubers(or herself in her subconscious)
But she definitely get it wrong the rest of the industry. And she fucked up.

>> No.7230329

>>7230255
She didn't say "ethots", she said "egirls" and almost definitely meant regular 3D woman streamers in general by that.
The point was just "if you like vtubers in general but hate women who stream with facecams in general that's stupid", which she's right about.
Some vtubers are shitheads, some regular woman streamers are fine, there's no categorical difference. That's all she meant.

>> No.7230358

>>7229347
Who?

>> No.7230397

>>7230213
Hana is an inside agent paid to undermine the current corpo that she's publicly contracted to.

>> No.7230422

>>7230222
>stopped having her dad on
You made a few mistakes in "divorced her husband"

>> No.7230557

>>7230222
>She's better off as she is,
This sounds like major cope even if you didn't mean it.

>> No.7230567

>>7230187
She's just like me.

>> No.7230705

>>7229347
I blame sodafunk.

>> No.7230898

At one point Choco was the most popular holo, everyone declines.

>> No.7230923

>>7230187
>self-loathing contrarian
Sounds like the average anon from here.

>> No.7230951

>>7230329
No, she was very much on a crusade to condemn people she didn't like and was indistinguishable from your average SJW (inb4 tourists crying about "SJW").
There are good 3D female streamers, but they're mostly massive narcissists, as any cursory inspection of Twitch will tell you, and that's what people are referring to when they talk shit about ethots. Vtubers by definition filter most narcissistic women since they can't showcase their real face and body (and the ones who do are dismissed as ethots).
I seriously doubt Hana is retarded enough to not realize this. She just wanted to feel good putting someone down, which happened to be a large chunk of her audience. All else aside, that alone is ungrateful as fuck and just another instance of her willfully self-sabotaging.

>> No.7230983

>>7230705
>assisted in making a clipfag popular
>gets abandoned
>clipfag is more popular than you now
>clipfag moves on to a more popular ID chuuba
Used like a whore.

>> No.7231019

>push fans away
>push personal clipfag (S*daf*nk) away
She wanted this

>> No.7231024

>>7230951
>and the ones who do are dismissed as ethots
I hardly ever saw anybody call miki that.

>> No.7231030

>>7230222
what a major cope lmao

>> No.7231079

>>7229347
>income based on goslings and gachikois
>shits on goslings and gachikois
>loses relevancy

>> No.7231092

>>7230705
Its happen before sodafunk tho.

>> No.7231207

>>7229611
Hanas mistake was her idea that her being right meant that she was somehow giving out some insightful revelation. Gachis and goslings know they are simping losers, who will never get a real women, telling them that wasnt a new revelation to them.

>> No.7231246

>>7230983
>>7231019
Its weird how Sodafunk is going to be a bigger chuuba than her.

>> No.7231256

>>7231207
They hate her because she telling the truth

>> No.7231298

>>7230567
>>7230923
She's gotten better about it at least
https://youtu.be/56vxxSjRhwM?t=5982

>> No.7231385

>>7229721
She was my bridge to Nijisanji. Now that there's NijiEN I have plenty of content between the dragons and the coomer fish.

>> No.7231387

>>7231019
Did she directly push him away? What did she say?

>> No.7231399

>>7231256
A truth everyone already knows. Isn't she supposed to be playing a character? It makes no sense to sperg out like that and risk alienating the people financially supporting you

>> No.7231416

>>7229347
She hates being popular tho, this girl seems like she want to be background charater
just like me

>> No.7231432

>>7231256
Just because it's true doesn't mean its worth saying. Imagine if McDonald's hired a guy to stand outside and yell at the fat people that they were going to die of heart attacks. It might be true, but it's also insulting their target demographic for no reason.

>> No.7231436

>>7229853
i like her and the holos but the only significant streams i tuned in for were Omori and her latest Apex with Reza and Bon
her style isn't as grating as the holos can get sometimes but at the same time i'm just not all that interested in what she's doing often

>> No.7231473

>>7231416
>She hates being popular tho
why did she create a youtube channel then. just quit and fade away bitch

>> No.7231541

Stop insulting my wife without her Nijisanji EN would not exist. It's not her fault Nijisanji En killed her but she still the top dog of nijisanji ID.

>> No.7231543
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>>7229347
Gee, who would have thought that telling your target audience that they're girlfriendless losers daily and that she doesn't like to be told what to do (even if it's just idiots in her chat suggesting games to play that she could easily ignore) would fuck up her numbers. Does she not realize that these people know they're losers and need vtubers to cope with crippling loneliness? She's not blowing their mind by telling them this, just making them look for other vtubers who will make them feel good.

>> No.7231576

>>7231416
Then why the fuck is she even in this line of work? It's like having an artist who dislikes drawing. It's literally your job to be popular.

>> No.7231604

>>7231541
She was dead long before nijiEN was even a twinkle in Tazumi's eye.

>> No.7231639

>>7229558
>That stream got big because Mick Gordon was in the chat.
Literally wrong, Mick Gordon was in the Doom 2016 stream, not the Eternal stream

>> No.7231666

>>7231576
Some people stream as a hobby anonchama, people on this very site will tell you that.

>> No.7231683

>>7231473
Specifically she hates being the only popular one from Id, when she's 1/2 American and 1/2 Japanese.
It's a worse impostor syndrome than Gura has.

She was sad and rarely streamed for a while, then was more sad that people ditched her for EN, even though she has more personality than some of them do but, self sabotaging is her curse.

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>> No.7231736

>>7231666
>Some people stream as a hobby anonchama
Sure, but why apply to an agency if you're not in it for money?

>> No.7231750

>>7231543
Why does this sound exactly like a certain Watson Amelia.

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>>7231604
She was literally at her peak up till the end of EN auditions.

>> No.7232142

>>7231666
If you're streaming it as a hobby you shouldn't be part of an agency.

>> No.7232275

>>7232142
Its not as if Nijisanji gives a damn. They hire anyone and don’t require anything. You have streamers that stream once in a blue moon and last time they almost let in a rapist.
They practically get a free model and no responsibility, although having to give up a cut of their income. Even the most obscure Niji gets a digit higher than some random indie. And on the offchance that the bigger companies are hiring, saying you have experience is more than enough.

>> No.7232427

>>7231736
Because working on niji is basically being part of a school club, you're not even obligated to stream or show up and any of the nijis can go into a months long hiatus if they want to.

>> No.7232455

I can't understand why she constantly wants to shoot herself in her foot.
1 - Stopped collabing with her father (you'll almost never see content like this)
2 - Stopped playing boomer shooters (it was a very good and comfortable niche for her and plenty of people watched her just for them)
3 - Told that vtubers are egirls (I don't really care about this cos it's true, but some people seem to care)
4 - Not asking people for collabs until she is the one that got asked (she also talks about how she wants to collab with that vtuber or the other in her membership streams, but never asks them for a collab)
5 - Does a bunch of ID only streams even tho most of her ID watchers know english anyway
6 - Sometimes gimps herself to "support" other ID livers (in the end it backfires cos their popularity also depends on her popularity)

I really want to support this retarded coffee bean, but she makes so much dumb decisions that I can only facepalm at them.

>> No.7232603

>>7229849
that works the other way around too, creators leave because they pull way too much numbers

>> No.7232775

>>7229347
She enjoyed big numbers, then got a huge imposter syndrome, banned family streams, reduced the number of streams overall and scuffed her growth herself. She wants to keep being low profile. But every collab stream with her is great still. I like that Bon, Zea and Reza still push her to do shit.

>> No.7232853

>>7231736
Because of free illust & rig and if you doing it right you can collab with your oshi.

>> No.7233654

>>7231256
She hated because she comes across as fake and shrill. Hana always sounds like she is talking down to people like a preachy lefty on Twitter.

>> No.7233706

>>7231298
I was going to say she's a liar but I remember she admits she only became a chuuba for the money while she in uni.

>> No.7233728

The best thing Hana could do is get Nijisanji to rebrand her as a NijiEN, and do an Apex collab with Selen and her Dad.

>> No.7233786

>>7233728
>get Nijisanji to rebrand her as a NijiEN
Have you still not read
>>7230222
>has to tell people "Don't call me NijiEN Gen 0"

>> No.7234250

>>7233786
But why? Doesn't she want to be successful?

>> No.7234651

>>7234250
Most nijis only want to stream.

>> No.7234721

>>7230255
>But she definitely get it wrong the rest of the industry.
Do simps really?

>> No.7234811

>>7231639
>https://youtu.be/lxwL-FCt0iY?t=3553

>> No.7234834

>>7231541
>without her Nijisanji EN would not exist
NijiEN exist because of HoloEN. Nijisanji had many chances to create one, but they kept underestimating it until Holo exploded in popularity.

>> No.7234852

>>7233706
...Then why the fuck does she keep shooting herself in the foot?

>> No.7234861

>>7234250
If you change from ID to EN can you imagine the hate? Just talking english gets them haters but erasing the ID is not a good idea.

>> No.7234887

>>7233786
>starts streaming because she wants the money
>gets uppity when people does things to make her more popular
What the fuck is her problem?

>> No.7234952

>>7234861
No one actually cares about ID. Everyone in Niji ID besides Hana is a 2view.

>> No.7234982

>>7234250
No she just wants to leech of her corp like the filthy SEA she is

>> No.7235054

>>7234250
Majority of NijiID livers doesn't really want to be that successful, they just do vtuber as part time job. Like some of them have better or even permanent job than vtuber

>> No.7235121

>>7234982
isn't she the literal only non-SEA in all of NijiID

>> No.7235130

>>7234861
As far as I know there's no retarded ID complaining about english in her stream. But the funny thing is IDfags complain about it in miyu's stream

>> No.7235199

New viewers these days put a dumb amount of stock in to character design and model, and hers really sucks. It’s so boring, the live2d is low quality, and she’s got nothing to make her character memorable to the types who are pushing holo EN. Also stopping the “dad” collabs, this board is stupid obsessed with the one egirl tweet and are convinced it was her massive downfall, just like they think the popular opinion on nyanners is that she’s a hypocrite. No one but vt autists remember or care

>> No.7235334

>>7234952
Yeah righ now there are 100+ people watching an niji id and it has to be around 2am right now midweek. Not the best numbers but more than Nara can pull because of what she said. Don't diss IDs and by changing to EN she would diss ID.

>> No.7235562

>>7234852
>>7234887
She thinks be true to herself, however she defines that, is better than money. She is making enough now that she doesn't need more so reclining is okay with her.

>> No.7235628

>>7235199
Was he really her Dad or her boyfriend? And yes, Hana looks like the school librarian and her newest hairstyle further emphasizes that point.

>> No.7235652

>>7235334
>Yeah righ now there are 100+ people watching an niji id and it has to be around 2am right now midweek
It's honestly weird to me that anyone would choose to join a company that delivers numbers like that. If you just want to stream then be an indie, no permissions bullshit that way.

>> No.7235660

>>7235562
Dont care is one thing, shooting yourself in the foot is another thing

>> No.7235665

>>7235628
Yes it is her biological dad and you can hear hana sob when she first stream with her father because her father still in other country

>> No.7235693

>>7235628
Anon, it’s her father. How many times does this need to be repeated.

>> No.7235790

>>7235693
It's her (ex-)husband, until proven otherwise.

>> No.7235886

>>7230329
>She didn't say "ethots", she said "egirls"
Anon, egirls is the PC word equivalent of the term ethot, because calling titty streamers "thots" was somehow "slut shaming". In fact, the whole meta came from that. It's ironic because VTubing allowed women to be judge more on the merits of their personality and voice than their actual physical appearance.

>> No.7235918

>>7235665
And she wouldn't also sob over being away from her long term boyfriend in another country?
>>7235693
Repetition without proof. He just didn't come off as her dad to me.

>> No.7236051

>>7230222
t. Hana

>> No.7236355

we have this thread every fucking week, come up with some new material already

>> No.7236387
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7236387

Don't care
I love my girlfriend

>> No.7236578

Stopped watching when the egirls things happened, if you want to act all smug about it ask the egirls audience to watch you

>> No.7236586

There is nothing new about Hana. She is shit, she shat herself. End of the Story.

>> No.7236599

>>7229347
it was thanks to her dad i would actually watch that guy

>> No.7236622

>>7235886
> It's ironic because VTubing allowed women to be judge more on the merits of their personality and voice than their actual physical appearance.
It's not like you can't stream without showing your face (or body) though, there's lots of women that stream without setting up a camera and just rely on their personalities and voice.

>> No.7236820

>>7235652
Free marketing and management, anon. All you gotta do is stream and give a % to corpo, that's why.

>> No.7236865

>>7236820
>Free marketing
not much of it apparently
>management
why are you listing a negative as a positive?

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7236926

>>7236387
same

but you know how people are

every week until you believe it

>> No.7236985

>>7236865
Management isn't just there to shit in your rice bowl, they also handle things like legal support, sponsorships, introducing you to artists and mv makers and the like.

>> No.7237031

>>7229662
I think it was because she agreed with some twitter thot that vtuber fans are misogynists or something because they don't like twitchthots. Not very surprising because her dad is pretty much a commie and I never got why people liked him.

>> No.7237046

>>7236985
In an ideal world, yes, but that's not how I've seen things go in any vtuber company.

>> No.7237199

>>7237046
That's how it usually goes in Nijisanji. They rarely just outright go "No, you can't do that", but they do handle stuff. For a recent example, compare the Vshoujo-organized GMod collab (a disaster) to the NijiWorld Gartic Phone the next day. The latter had people from 5 different countries, and management definitely played a role in getting them together, matching their schedules, making sure everyone had the game running, etc.
Now, if you CAN handle all that stuff yourself then yes, having management hovering over you to suggest you do X, Y,and Z might be more of a detriment, but for most people not having to handle that is worth the pay cut.

>> No.7237370

I like it when she makes the funni voice

>> No.7237441

>>7229347
That's what you get for streaming with men and shitting on idols

>> No.7237454

>>7229347
Her design is really cute but other than that I don't have a reason to watch her. Being in a branch other than JP or EN is a huge debuff, unfortunately.

>> No.7237554

>>7236865
>not much of it apparently
Nijis easily get one or two orders of magnitude more engagement than your average indie, not even counting additional sources of income like merch and sponsorships and the like. At worst, their gig at Niji is probably a part time job. But clearly you're blinded by Holo numbers so that's meaningless to you
>why are you listing a negative as a positive?
Unless you think all of these vtuber talents are hyper autistic savants, it's managers who work behind the scenes to get things like large-scale collabs, sponsors, merch deals, artists, and so on

>> No.7237573

>>7237199
>They rarely just outright go "No, you can't do that",
Funny you say this NijiEN isn't allowed to do english songs in unarchived karaoke, something even hololive allows.

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7237637

>>7230951
>Vtubers by definition filter most narcissistic women

>> No.7237679

>>7237573
That's literally just a licensing issue and they decided to play it safe considering how autistic youtube gets about that shit.
>but hololive does
very rarely.

>> No.7237705

>>7237554
>large-scale collabs
Personal opinion, but I don't really see this as a good thing. Large scale collabs tend to be some of the worst content streamers put out.
>sponsors
As long as you get numbers, you get offers, even as an indie.
>merch deals
True, though I get the feeling that's corporate rather than the direct talent managers
>artists
Not really difficult on your own nowadays with skeb, unless you're saying that the company pays for whatever they're commissioning, which I doubt is the usual case

>> No.7237730

>>7236622
That is irrelevant to the point being made: egirl is just an ethot with a "less insulting" name.

>> No.7237736

>>7237679
>very rarely.
I'm pretty sure every single HoloEN unarchived karaoke included English songs.

>> No.7237802

>>7237573
Legal issues are different from "This doesn't fit your/the company's image, you can't do it"

>> No.7237845

>>7237736
What are you considering "english songs" I don't watch many holo karaoke streams but its almost always the same generic vocaloid songs whenever I do turn them on.

and doing a quick 5 minute search through their channels i don't even see any karaoke streams saved. and i wouldn't really consider them immediately deleting the stream to be a "pro" for them.

>> No.7237962

>>7237637
>reading comprehension: the post

>> No.7238013

>>7237845
I specified unarchived. Why did you bother looking on the channel?

>> No.7238081

>>7238013
because i was curious about genuine karaoke as well too because i like listening to singing streams.
but apparently hololive isn't allowed to keep up karaoke streams, so...

>> No.7238117

>>7237845
Retardchama...

>> No.7238204

>>7235652
Getting to 100 viewers as a pure streamer takes an immense amount of effort compared to the stuff management will handle and the network web an agency gives.

>> No.7238225

>>7231576
Because vtubing wasn't big back then when she signed up.

>> No.7238319

>>7236820
>give a % to corpo
With numbers like that, any % that doesn't go to you is quite the pain though

>> No.7238350

I would say those are Anya numbers but even Anya is doing better, not counting that one major collab she did. Between 16~22k accrued views on her own is her average. 30k accrued views on collab, special or unusual streams. I guess you could argue Anya does play a little longer so that number could be worse if split per hour. Though, not even getting 15k on an over 2 week old video tells me Hana doesn't get much or any people watching the VODs.

>> No.7238369

>>7238319
Do you really think they're make their % on their own?
Sure 50% of a million is a lot, but 500k is still 100x more than 5k they'd of normally made.

>> No.7238425

>>7237845
Anon, they're not called "unarchived karaoke" for nothing. They're singing non-JASRAC songs, so they disable all monetization for that stream and let it disappear forever once it's done.
Now tell me: Which songs are not JASRAC listed?

>> No.7238475

>hololive gets to sing any song they want!
>okay so where is it?
>i-its unarchived!
man wait til you guys see what the nijis do for their unarchived streams. lulu used to do human sacrifice every tuesday.

>> No.7238562

>>7237637
>most
Kiara is a failed narcissistic woman (idol), vtubing was her fallback.
>mfw she recently started streaming as her roommate and immediately called herself Kiara by "accident"

>> No.7238573

>>7238081
>but apparently hololive isn't allowed to keep up karaoke streams, so...
I can't tell if you're baiting or genuinely this ignorant. Anyways, they do keep karaokes archived, but the songs need to be legally licensed.

Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGzuTH_-dIU&pp=sAQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeBE9WmhMU&pp=sAQA

>> No.7238576

>>7238475
The full vods are on nyaa and youtube clip channels have the songs. Is typing [holo] karaoke in the search bar too hard for you?

>> No.7238762

>>7238425
>>7238573
I wonder if the Holos are putting themselves in danger with that?
I know people HAVE gotten copyright strikes for videos they've taken down before, so I don't think it's impossible. And despite having a lighter hand in general Nijisanji has always been better about that kind of thing, to the point where one of the main reactions I remember to the Holocaust was "Nijisanji already takes care of this, how has Cover not learned from their biggest competitor's actions?".
Obviously I hope it's fine, but man, if Cover gets into easily avoidable legal trouble AGAIN I'll be genuinely disappointed in them.

>> No.7240708

>>7229347
What happened?

>> No.7240825

>>7238762
>I wonder if the Holos are putting themselves in danger with that?
Probably, but that is a grey area that they are willing to thread and no one has given them a C&D yet (probably because they're not directly profiting off of the music, so they can't be sued for damages on it if no money was made). I wish they had a better way to handle the licensing issue, which is a matter of jurisdiction more than anything else.

>> No.7240913

>>7240708
niji en happened

>> No.7241168

>>7230187
Why are all ID chuubas so fucking caustic?

>> No.7241346

>>7240708
nothing, it's manufactured drama by holoschizos

>> No.7241990

>>7230255
>my ethot is different
kek

>> No.7242133

>>7230329
fundamentally wrong, I only like them if they're under an strict code that limits what they can say or do

>> No.7242236

>>7240708
Nothing, Hololive EN happened and EOPs jumped to the new thing.
/vt/ overestimates its importance. You guys didn't even manage putting 1k dislikes on the Nyanners collab even with the help of bots at the peak of Hololive popularity.

>> No.7242795

i stopped watching hana when she started streaming with her dad. that was so weird. it almost felt like she brought him on to try and get her viewers to stop saying flirty or suggestive things, like some kind of chaperone. some people stopped but others persisted nevertheless, and then it started to feel even more awkward.

if you're a female vtuber then a lot of your success will come from your audience developing a crush on you. if you actively try to push away that part of your audience, then you better be really funny or entertaining, because 'just an average girl who isn't interested in you' is not really a character archetype that is in demand

>> No.7243501

>>7229490
She did but a big reason is also there is a lot more choices now. When she was big your choices for EN vtubers on youtube were basically her and Natsumi Moe.

>> No.7245458

There are a lot of newfags here.

>> No.7246011

>>7238762
Nijiniggers can't help themselves, your concernfagging is so fucking disingenuous.

>> No.7251237

>>7229347
And the only reason why she was ever relevant wasn't even because of her.

>> No.7255762

>>7242236
It wasn't /vt/ that got pissed over the ethot tweet, hell, I'm pretty sure /vt/ didn't even exist back then. Getting pissed over it is a general sentiment, and she made that tweet knowing that she'll ruffle a few feathers so really it's not like it's unexpected or anything.

>> No.7260985

>>7234982
>>7235121
She's half-American, half-Japanese.

>> No.7263567

>>7242795
Her dad is funny though.

>> No.7264624

>>7230951
>No she was pretty much acting according to my own headcannon
The only thing Hana did wrong was intentionally sabotaging herself by getting rid of her dad and stop playing games that would get her views. The fact that she droped her anime voice is a plus to me though, her normal voice is 100x tmes better.

>> No.7264712

>>7243501
>When she was big your choices for EN vtubers on youtube were basically her and Natsumi Moe.
And then Pikamee entered
The glory days

>> No.7264844

>>7246011
Anon, if you think Cover doesn't have a habit of
1. taking necessary preparations
2. not learning from their past mistakes
You haven't been paying much attention

>> No.7265710

>>7241168
more like why all ID chuubas have soul than EN chuubas

>> No.7265783

>>7229484
“dad”

>> No.7267549

>>7229490

How did she self sabotage?

>> No.7267795

>>7267549
She spoke the Truth, and thus did they abandon her.
Also HoloEN came out.

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7267856

Get woke, go bloke baby. Its ze rulezz.

Can't wait for HoloEN2 and specially ID3, i wonder how she'll feel of HoloID3 hehehehHyHahahah

>> No.7268353

I stumbled upon her when I was looking for other EN based vtubers like Moe, and a few others in the early days. Her gremlin was unique at the time, and I enjoyed it for a while. The collabs with Daddy were pure kino. The banter between the two was great. After that though I felt her solo streams were lacking, and the gremlin wasn’t as effective. Also started to notice like a holier than thou talking down to attitude to chat. I largely stopped watching after that. This was way before holoen, and the ethot drama. I did catch some collabs of her with Bonn though and they were great. IMO she banters great, and was funny to watch her struggle to keep her pants on. Can’t blame her, Bon’s voice is sexy as all hell.

>> No.7269819

>>7263567
I watched clips of her dad and he seems pretty based. Would be funny if he gets in the NijiEN male wave

>> No.7273942

I like Hana but I'm not going to watch LoL or Apex streams for her or anyone.
and I'm not watching Nijicollabs cause there are too fucking name of nijis I can barely keep up with all the vtubers I follow at this point, I don't want to start getting invested in 100 more.

>> No.7274902

>>7265783
Considering he has mentioned her dead mom a couple times, the only alternative to not being her dad is an uncle or something among those lines

>> No.7278792

With these recent events, she might be able to leech on the sodafunk drama to regain some kind of relevancy

>> No.7279404

>>7235562
>>7235660
I think it's fairly simple:
she wanted money while in uni and did not dislike connecting with people pso2-clan style, so she picked up vtubing (before it boomed). Growing popular, she felt bad about the fact that a large part of her audience's relationship with her was anything but healthy, and started questioning her source of income. She thus tried to alienate said viewers both in the attempt to "help them move on" and to mitigate the guilt. Moreover, having many followers makes having a "homely" community you can actually engage with kinda impossible.

I might not personally die for her content/personality, but I can certainly respect her sensibility and straightness.

>> No.7279513

>>7279404
damn if that's true I have respect for her. Speaking of which other NijiID livers doesn't really need money from vtubing because they only did it for entertain, and if they earn some money they will use it to pay college or song cover because song cover needs to use your own fund

>> No.7279703

>>7279513
Yeah, Riksa/Djukut doesn't want to enable his membership even though he has the shittiest mic and non-soundproof room. He just wants to do whatever he wants to do.

>> No.7280771

>>7230329
>which she's right about.
so basically she atracted people like you, i see why she is irrelevant now

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7280924

>>7238562
>and immediately called herself Kiara by "acciden
why the hell do you know that, you are disgusting

>> No.7280993

>>7280924
Do your reps, tourist-chama.

>> No.7280996

>>7236622
>there's lots of women that stream without setting up a camera and just rely on their personalities and voice.
like your average nobody

>> No.7281828

Carrot legs is the only EN chuba I can stand to listen to talk for hours. I like her because she tells it like it is. All the rest are so condescensingly fake it feels like I'm being talked down to and emasculated like a child. I know NTR is a popular fetish. It's just not mine.

Also, her PSO2 gambling streams aren't generic vtuber content straight from the corporate handbook. I like innovation and variety. Nothing disgusts me more than every chuba doing the exact same things. Either they have no personality (thereby defeating the point of watching them) or they don't express enough of their real personalities and preferences through their content (thereby defeating the point of watching them). Ina's drawchats are another example. Chubas who actually do their own thing are better than uninspired ethots who don't care about the craft.

>> No.7285316

>"if you like vtubers in general but hate women who stream with facecams in general that's stupid"
Why are there people in this thread saying she was speaking the truth? People only dislike streamers because the majority of them use their tits and ass to get fans more than their actual content. I haven't seen one person shit on someone like SweetAnita unless they are schizos calling her Tourette's fake.

>> No.7289570

>>7237679
>very rarely.
Ame and Gura sing American pop songs almost exclusively.

>> No.7289615

>>7280924
also showed nipple and thigh

>> No.7289759

>>7279703
The American Capitalist pig in me hates the SEA mentality towards earning income. They only have that mentality because even small amounts of income from vtubing for Niji or Holo allow them to live comfortable and they settle for that rather than grow and become wealthier.

In short, it's not wrong to do your thing and be satisfied with that but it's also not wrong to be ambitious and want 1 million subs and millions in your bank account.

>> No.7289830

>>7280924
Youtube algorithm immediately suggested her rm's first video to anyone that's been watching Kiara's streams.

>> No.7289892

>>7281828
Are you a woman?

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